Poll
Question:
Who is more likely to be given number 1 ruck.
Option 1: Hickey
votes: 13
Option 2: Longer
votes: 4
With Saint Kilda's thin ruck options this season with the departure of McEvoy, there is some money to be saved and made at the same time.
could be a better alternative than Sandilands and McIntosh given there injury prone bodies.
Hickey will start as their #1. Im considering starting Hickey and Sandi, but it's risky.
Grundy a much better pick imo
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on February 06, 2014, 04:19:41 AM
Grundy a much better pick imo
worried about 2nd year blues with Grundy, very promising though.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 06, 2014, 01:30:04 AM
Hickey will start as their #1. Im considering starting Hickey and Sandi, but it's risky.
this is what I'm thinking as well. My rucks are going to be out of Grundy/Hickey/Longer/McIntosh/Sandilands/Lobbe. I know at that much!
Based on lower level stats I think Longer has the greatest scoring potential of the two.. just. He's also 50k cheaper which means he only needs to average 60 to make you 100k... Hickey would have to average 70 for the same price rise.
I think Longer is the better tap ruckman and the better player around the ground but I could understand St Kilda siding with Hickey. What I'm more concerned about is the potential for them to be used in tandem or chopped and changed through the season which would stuff up their scoring and JS.
About Grundy, Collingwood have been putting a huge amount of work into him in anticipation of being first ruck and I think he'll be able to perform pretty well. It's not like he's had to put on a heap of weight in the last 12 months and he only played 14 games last year across the AFL/VFL so I think the factors that usually cause a second year drop off aren't as applicable. That's not to say he won't have some disappointing games. It's a shame Witts isn't cheaper because it would have been good to handcuff those two in R2/R3 but oh well.
I'm not picking Longer in DT, 239k is too much to swallow for a bench player and he's not going to be solid enough to hold R2.
I would really recommend neither, there is loads of value in the mids and forward line with rookies and cheap established players.
The ruckline is not where you take risks as the bench is unreliable, if you have one of these guys on the bench than your wasting money in my opinion.
Limited trades, cheap rookies go set and foeget.
Out of the two I have to give the edge to longer as I can see him doing mote than just rucking. Looking at him in AF but not DT.
Saints had an intraclub hitout today. From what I've heard (thanks @stkildathunda), Hickey was the standout 1st ruck option (plus took some grabs forward) while Longer struggled before copping a corkie.
Either way, I'd spend some extra coin and start either Sandi or Hmac as R3.
Quote from: mezzoculo on February 08, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
Saints had an intraclub hitout today. From what I've heard (thanks @stkildathunda), Hickey was the standout 1st ruck option (plus took some grabs forward) while Longer struggled before copping a corkie.
Either way, I'd spend some extra coin and start either Sandi or Hmac as R3.
Yep impressive today. When I asked @stkildathunda about starting Hickey he didn't think it was a good idea
@stkildathunda: @JROO8 I wouldnt mate, Hickey/Longer/Stanley will all rotate and play/miss games throughout year,
I'm shocked that anyone would consider hickey or longer over sandilands and hmac. If I had to pick one I'd go for hickey as the incumbent.
Quote from: Speculator on February 09, 2014, 03:50:25 PM
I'm shocked that anyone would consider hickey or longer over sandilands and hmac. If I had to pick one I'd go for hickey as the incumbent.
This!
As R3 though?
Quote from: Adamant on February 09, 2014, 10:59:41 PM
Quote from: stew42 on February 09, 2014, 10:49:38 PM
As R3 though?
Too expensive.
Depends if Nank/Thurlow/Currie look like playing early on. If not then we'll have to spend that extra cash on the bench