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Poll
Question: Which Breakout contenders are you starting with?
Option 1: Liberatore votes: 7
Option 2: Prestia votes: 10
Option 3: Sidebottom votes: 2
Option 4: Wingard votes: 10
Option 5: Golby votes: 5
Option 6: Lobbe votes: 12
Option 7: The Cannon (McKenzie) votes: 6
Option 8: Bellchambers votes: 3
Option 9: Caddy votes: 16
Option 10: Other (Please Comment) votes: 11
Option 11: Darling votes: 5
Option 12: Watts votes: 6
Option 13: Swallow votes: 13
Option 14: Treloar votes: 1
Option 15: D. Smith votes: 1
Option 16: Coniglio votes: 2
Title: Break out Players
Post by: nrich102 on January 15, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Which Breakout players are you going to start with this year? I know I've left someone off so comment if theres someone else you're considering.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2014, 01:05:57 PM
Only Caddy as a potential breakout for me.

Would say that Sidey, Libba and Prestia have already had their breakouts
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: LF on January 15, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
I picked other but my lips are sealed ;)
Also think Lobbe could breakout this year
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2014, 01:25:57 PM
Also think Darling will definitely breakout this year. Just can't fit him into my side
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: eg6914 on January 15, 2014, 01:43:37 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 15, 2014, 01:25:57 PM
Also think Darling will definitely breakout this year. Just can't fit him into my side
I voted Other, i have just managed to sneak Darling into F5
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 15, 2014, 01:46:15 PM
Other for me...going Robbie Gray this season
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Vinny on January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Seems people rate Darling more than I thought. I thought he was shower at fantasy? Relies on goals too much.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: henry on January 15, 2014, 03:34:39 PM
Got my eye on a couple, none mentioned here. Very keen on Jack watts, will play more in the midfield this year . He has far to much talent to never fire a shot, I reckon this will be his year.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2014, 03:41:17 PM
Quote from: vinny on January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Seems people rate Darling more than I thought. I thought he was shower at fantasy? Relies on goals too much.
Time will tell mate. You may be correct though
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Vinny on January 15, 2014, 04:10:21 PM
What makes you think he will breakout Ric?
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ringo on January 15, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
David Swallow for me in 5th year after being number one draft pick.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Vinny on January 15, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on January 15, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
I picked other but my lips are sealed ;)
Also think Lobbe could breakout this year

Haha I think I know who it is >:D
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 15, 2014, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on January 15, 2014, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on January 15, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
I picked other but my lips are sealed ;)
Also think Lobbe could breakout this year

Haha I think I know who it is >:D
Gaff?
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Football Factory on January 15, 2014, 06:01:18 PM
Treloar
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 15, 2014, 10:45:49 PM
Mitch Golby probably the closest for me. Don't want to start with too many with limited trades!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Nige on January 16, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Since I'm more of a SC guy, I reckon I'll use my DT team to try out a few players and take a couple of risks on breakout contenders and the like.

Guys like Prestia, Seedsman etc.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Adamant on January 16, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 15, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
David Swallow for me in 5th year after being number one draft pick.

After having a bit of a think about it I'm actually thinking Swallow could be a decent pick down back as well. Don't like picking breakout contenders but if I had to choose one then he would be it.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: mezzoculo on January 16, 2014, 12:40:31 PM
Quote from: Adamant on January 16, 2014, 12:06:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 15, 2014, 04:39:11 PM
David Swallow for me in 5th year after being number one draft pick.

After having a bit of a think about it I'm actually thinking Swallow could be a decent pick down back as well. Don't like picking breakout contenders but if I had to choose one then he would be it.
Yep, his DPP eligibility makes him a tasty option. If he remains injury free during the pre-season then there's a high chance he'll regain his position in the midfield.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: nrich102 on January 16, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on January 16, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Since I'm more of a SC guy, I reckon I'll use my DT team to try out a few players and take a couple of risks on breakout contenders and the like.

Guys like Prestia, Seedsman etc.
I think you'd be better off doing that in AF :P
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Nige on January 16, 2014, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on January 16, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on January 16, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Since I'm more of a SC guy, I reckon I'll use my DT team to try out a few players and take a couple of risks on breakout contenders and the like.

Guys like Prestia, Seedsman etc.
I think you'd be better off doing that in AF :P
Me too, but I'm fearless.  ;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: nrich102 on January 16, 2014, 01:38:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on January 16, 2014, 01:36:22 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on January 16, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on January 16, 2014, 12:02:03 PM
Since I'm more of a SC guy, I reckon I'll use my DT team to try out a few players and take a couple of risks on breakout contenders and the like.

Guys like Prestia, Seedsman etc.
I think you'd be better off doing that in AF :P
Me too, but I'm fearless.  ;)
Was thinking of including more breakout players in sc, but only af now.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 20, 2014, 10:24:42 AM
Might be worth considering Rohan

http://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2014-01-19/rohan-in-the-running

SYDNEY Swans great Jude Bolton believes Gary Rohan will emerge and stamp himself as one of the most exciting players in the AFL in 2014.

"Gary's a phenomenal talent. It was great to see him exposed to footy again last year. He's been around for a while, but he's really matured as a player," Bolton said.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 20, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: vinny on January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Seems people rate Darling more than I thought. I thought he was shower at fantasy? Relies on goals too much.

It's because theres rumours he may be playing midfield this season.. But i doubt it.. All just pre season talk.. Max he will improve his average is 7-8..
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: essendon2 on January 20, 2014, 08:34:55 PM
Darling, Hawkins and Masten in the RDT atm ;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Toga on January 21, 2014, 05:25:17 PM
Wingard is the only one in my side at the moment and I am seriously considering starting Brandon Ellis over Cotchin, but might leave that for AF given trades are limited in this game... David Swallow the only other I'm considering but haven't fitted him in yet.

As others have said I'm not sure breakout contenders are gonna be the way you do well in Real DT!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: _wato on January 22, 2014, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: noto07 on January 20, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: vinny on January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Seems people rate Darling more than I thought. I thought he was shower at fantasy? Relies on goals too much.

It's because theres rumours he may be playing midfield this season.. But i doubt it.. All just pre season talk.. Max he will improve his average is 7-8..

Yes, hahaha, I can't see Darling playing Mid, not with Sheed/Ellis coming in and Hurn more likely to play before him, he has to play almighty well to even warrant selection up the field. Will watch with interest though.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 09:41:35 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 22, 2014, 09:33:38 AM
Quote from: noto07 on January 20, 2014, 01:55:07 PM
Quote from: vinny on January 15, 2014, 02:27:13 PM
Seems people rate Darling more than I thought. I thought he was shower at fantasy? Relies on goals too much.

It's because theres rumours he may be playing midfield this season.. But i doubt it.. All just pre season talk.. Max he will improve his average is 7-8..

Yes, hahaha, I can't see Darling playing Mid, not with Sheed/Ellis coming in and Hurn more likely to play before him, he has to play almighty well to even warrant selection up the field. Will watch with interest though.
Its not suggesting he play as a sole mid, its a midfield rotation. And it's based on him training with the midfield group. He certainly has the size and athletic ability to be a sole midfielder but he's not there yet.

But one day Darling will be a very very good midfielder and no longer a deep forward
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: _wato on January 22, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Yeah, but will he be part of the midfield rotation? I just can't see it happening?
Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Shuey, Gaff, Ellis, Sheed, Hurn etc are all in front of him.

I think they can't afford him in the middle, he'll have to stay deep forward, just like Fyfe is a natural forward and could take over from Pavlich, but they can't let him leave their midfield.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Toga on January 22, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Wow I had no idea that Darling would even be considered for a move into the midfield :o
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: _wato on January 22, 2014, 11:34:58 AM
Quote from: Toga on January 22, 2014, 11:33:13 AM
Wow I had no idea that Darling would even be considered for a move into the midfield :o

Yeah that's my thoughts exactly, hahah. Little weird to see him in the mids if it does happen!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 22, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Yeah, but will he be part of the midfield rotation? I just can't see it happening?
Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Shuey, Gaff, Ellis, Sheed, Hurn etc are all in front of him.

I think they can't afford him in the middle, he'll have to stay deep forward, just like Fyfe is a natural forward and could take over from Pavlich, but they can't let him leave their midfield.
Rosa and Gaff play on wings and Ellis won't play inside. Hurn has been 'suggested' to have a midfield rotation this year but its been little more than one article. Sheed is a kid and unproven, although I agree I would see him playing inside ahead of Darling. So that leaves Selwood, Priddis, Masten, Shuey and Sheed. Clubs have 6-7+ players with midfield rotations so can easily the number of mids isn't the issue.

Fyfe started as a forward much like Darling. Now look at him, he has the ability to be one of the best midfielders in the comp. I have seen Darling from a young age and in my opinion, he also has that ability.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: _wato on January 22, 2014, 11:48:01 AM
I won't argue with you mate, you know a lot more than I do, hahah.

Would love to see him play there though, could be a gun if given the opportunity.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 22, 2014, 12:24:01 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 11:46:15 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 22, 2014, 11:22:52 AM
Yeah, but will he be part of the midfield rotation? I just can't see it happening?
Selwood, Masten, Priddis, Rosa, Shuey, Gaff, Ellis, Sheed, Hurn etc are all in front of him.

I think they can't afford him in the middle, he'll have to stay deep forward, just like Fyfe is a natural forward and could take over from Pavlich, but they can't let him leave their midfield.
Rosa and Gaff play on wings and Ellis won't play inside. Hurn has been 'suggested' to have a midfield rotation this year but its been little more than one article. Sheed is a kid and unproven, although I agree I would see him playing inside ahead of Darling. So that leaves Selwood, Priddis, Masten, Shuey and Sheed. Clubs have 6-7+ players with midfield rotations so can easily the number of mids isn't the issue.

Fyfe started as a forward much like Darling. Now look at him, he has the ability to be one of the best midfielders in the comp. I have seen Darling from a young age and in my opinion, he also has that ability.

Youve missed a few blokes rico.. Wellingham and Hutchings also run through the middle. Theres already 7 ahead of darling right there. Maybe if 3 mids get injured during the season he could be a last resort.. But i think he is to valuable down forward atm, espcially with lecras not being at his best since injury and the lack of true forwards other than kennedy.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Toga on January 22, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
Interesting points Rico, definitely see what you're saying!

My main reservation in comparing Fyfe to Darling in deep fwd/midfield rotations is that (from what I can see) they have quite different body types - Fyfe is pretty muscular but lean, whereas Darling seems more stocky... Doesn't look like he'd have the same running capabilities as other midfielders would!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 22, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids. 
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:56:38 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 22, 2014, 12:32:25 PM
Interesting points Rico, definitely see what you're saying!

My main reservation in comparing Fyfe to Darling in deep fwd/midfield rotations is that (from what I can see) they have quite different body types - Fyfe is pretty muscular but lean, whereas Darling seems more stocky... Doesn't look like he'd have the same running capabilities as other midfielders would!

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

QuoteHe is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

QuoteDarling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 22, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.
Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 22, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 22, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.
Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.

yeah true!! The more depth the merrier i spose! Just cant see him getting lots of time if he does, and i dont think his dt scores will change much
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Toga on January 22, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:56:38 PM
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

QuoteHe is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

QuoteDarling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)

Haha your point stands! Darling's a fair bit heavier than Fyfey though according to stats I've found? Would he need to slim down a touch?

And yeah fair enough he's considered an elite runner, just wouldn't expect it looking at him hey! They also said Matthew Richardson could have been an olympic runner for Australia (in his biography) so yeah not unheard of for big bodied guys to have a good tank.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 01:20:10 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 22, 2014, 01:16:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 01:01:34 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 22, 2014, 12:50:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Will Wellingham play inside? Yeh I did state he's not there yet but will be in the future. Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.

Just looking at Freo's starting 22 for comparison
Fyfe
Mundy
Barlow
Crowley
Sylvia
De Boer
Pearce
Neale

All get inside rotations with Hill, Mzungu, Walters getting rotations through the wings

Yeah, he has done already. Our midfield has been struggling the past 2-3 seasons so Wellingham is definitely getting a gig on the ball.


Pearce and neale saw minimum time on the ball last year, didnt they? Plus Sylvia wasnt there. So would of mainly being fyfe, mundy barlow and crowley and deboer in there.

You really only need 5-6 blokes to go through the middle with the quick rotations and switches to hff. I think Selwood, Shuey, Masten, Priddis, Hutchings. Will have the majority covered, with pinch hitting in there from Sheed and Wellingham. Even Leca is more chance to venture into mids.
Yeh thats this year but last year DPearce, Mzungu and Suban attended centre bounces at times because they were needed. This year they won't be with Sylvia and CPearce back.

Most teams will run their 3 starting mids, plus 2 on the bench and two half fwds or half backs through the middle.

yeah true!! The more depth the merrier i spose! Just cant see him getting lots of time if he does, and i dont think his dt scores will change much
I agree he's not quite there yet. Will be interesting to see how Simpson uses him this year thats for sure
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 01:29:28 PM
Quote from: Toga on January 22, 2014, 01:17:24 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:56:38 PM
http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/afl/kim-hagdorn-west-coast-pin-hopes-on-jack-darling-experiment-and-nic-naitanui-fitness/story-fniv6fhh-1226798909997

QuoteHe is almost identical in size and weight as gun Fremantle on-ball playmakers David Mundy and Nathan Fyfe.

QuoteDarling is also considered to be an elite level running machine with critical endurance to turn in the important and influential gut-running that is so pivotal to playing on the ball in the AFL.

;)

Haha your point stands! Darling's a fair bit heavier than Fyfey though according to stats I've found? Would he need to slim down a touch?

And yeah fair enough he's considered an elite runner, just wouldn't expect it looking at him hey! They also said Matthew Richardson could have been an olympic runner for Australia (in his biography) so yeah not unheard of for big bodied guys to have a good tank.
Yeh man exactly. Even though I think he's 3-4 years away from being a permanent midfielder, I can see him getting a rotation soon.

On the size of Fyfe, Mundy and Darling
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/nathan-fyfe
Fyfe 190cm and 88kg

http://www.westcoasteagles.com.au/player-profile/jack-darling
Darling 191cm and 91kg

http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/player-profile/david-mundy
Mundy 192cm and 91kg
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Noz on January 22, 2014, 01:29:54 PM
Wingard will break out and win the brownlow medal. Leave him out at your own risk.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.


Just this bit Ric....Rd1 starter?
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.


Just this bit Ric....Rd1 starter?
From what I have heard yes. Watched him dominate the WAFL grand final last year and had a solid year at that level when he played. I would speak to Ele or luvfooty though, they might know more.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 02:05:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 02:02:11 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 01:59:54 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on January 22, 2014, 12:31:25 PM
Forgot about Hutchings actually. He should hopefully slot straight into Kerr's spot.


Just this bit Ric....Rd1 starter?
From what I have heard yes. Watched him dominate the WAFL grand final last year and had a solid year at that level when he played. I would speak to Ele or luvfooty though, they might know more.

Thanks Ric..could be handy... ;D
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: LF on January 22, 2014, 02:19:23 PM
Here T Dog player profile on Hutchings with his WAFL stats included :)

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86926.0.html
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: luvfooty on January 22, 2014, 02:19:23 PM
Here T Dog player profile on Hutchings with his WAFL stats included :)

http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,86926.0.html

Thanks LF..champion.. ;D
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 22, 2014, 04:43:29 PM
Had a quick skim through the thread and basically agree with everyone.

On Darling, I see him training with the midfield group at the moment purely to build his tank for a long career. The whole midfield talk is only partly true. I see him as an X-Factor for when we are 3 goals down with 5 minutes to go, we need a big body on the ball to lay someone out and force a ball forward.

The game is becoming more and more about versatility these days and with limited rotations, elite midfielders that can rest forward (GAJ/Swan/Jelwood), tall players that can play at either end of the park (Carlisle/Taylor) and indeed forwards that can run through the guts for stints (Buddy/hopefully Darling) become vitally important imo.

Hutchy is an interesting one. He is certainly good enough to get games in my opinion and his brutal inside game would free up guys like Shuey/Welly to run riot on the outside. A lot comes down to Simmo's personal preference I reckon.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 07:48:21 PM
Which Taylor is the tall at both ends Ele?... :-\
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Toga on January 22, 2014, 07:51:31 PM
Harry Taylor (Geelong) ;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
I was hoping Lewis Taylor... :'(
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ziplock on January 22, 2014, 08:09:09 PM
Quote from: T Dog on January 22, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
I was hoping Lewis Taylor... :'(

isn't lewis taylor like <180cm?

not exactly the epitome of 'tall' :P
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ringo on January 22, 2014, 09:02:14 PM
Lewis Taylor is only 175cm so not a tall.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Vinny on January 22, 2014, 09:10:20 PM
How many games do you expect Taylor to play in 2014 Ringo?
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ringo on January 22, 2014, 09:27:29 PM
No you are asking Vinny. TBH can not see him getting too many games unless injury occurs or loss of form.  He would be competing with Zorko and Green for the small forwards position. Probably not what you wanted to hear but bear in mind my opinion.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Vinny on January 22, 2014, 09:46:29 PM
Oh okay, thanks mate. Hopefully he can manage 1 or 2.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 23, 2014, 01:06:57 AM
Yep, Harry Taylor from Geelong ;)

I'm sure there are plenty more btw, I just said the first ones that came to my head haha.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 12:09:56 PM
anybody thinking Wingard?
he WILL be a super player...third year breakout? possibly
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
he has so much more potential though..
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 26, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
he has so much more potential though..

Not doubting that for a minute. Just saying I'd rather start with the proven players and upgrade to the blokes having big seasons.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
he has so much more potential though..

Not doubting that for a minute. Just saying I'd rather start with the proven players and upgrade to the blokes having big seasons.
I think it's better start with Wingard and mid season upgrade(if you even have to) to a premo thus you will save money on a premo trade and if Wingard's doing good then he will cost moar
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on January 26, 2014, 11:21:16 PM
I agree, wingard has had a little breakout already. There isn't much value in starting with him now
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Adamant on January 26, 2014, 11:47:10 PM
So does anyone like David Swallow as a breakout contender? I'm not a fan of trying to pick breakouts, but he looks like the best option in that price range down back.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 27, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
he has so much more potential though..

Not doubting that for a minute. Just saying I'd rather start with the proven players and upgrade to the blokes having big seasons.
I think it's better start with Wingard and mid season upgrade(if you even have to) to a premo thus you will save money on a premo trade and if Wingard's doing good then he will cost moar

What if Wingard gets a ton more attention nd averages an inconsistent 70 odd? By starting with proven premiums, you're getting points on the board early.
In a format with limited trades, you really don't want to be screwing around sideways trading players you've paid a lot for. I'm just putting my view forward (the one you asked for) so I don't get really why you're debating the point :P
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: tbagrocks on January 27, 2014, 01:33:48 AM
Yes very good point but, good luck to the defender playing on the Boss!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Kellogscrunchynut on January 27, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Most of these players are far too risky, my breakout candidate is Seedsman.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: elephants on January 28, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on January 27, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Most of these players are far too risky, my breakout candidate is Seedsman.

Yeah I'm a massive Seedy fan. Could argue he's already broken out though after averaging 89 unsubbed last season!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Memphistopheles on January 29, 2014, 02:17:17 AM
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2014, 03:19:36 AM
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on January 27, 2014, 10:18:35 PM
Most of these players are far too risky, my breakout candidate is Seedsman.

Yeah I'm a massive Seedy fan. Could argue he's already broken out though after averaging 89 unsubbed last season!

Back to the drawing board. Memph's hot tip - get on Marley Williams now that Seedsman has gone down.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: eg6914 on January 29, 2014, 11:52:57 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on January 29, 2014, 02:17:17 AM
Back to the drawing board. Memph's hot tip - get on Marley Williams now that Seedsman has gone down.
SHhhh ;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ziplock on January 29, 2014, 12:38:53 PM
arm what?

armSTRONG!
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 29, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
How long do they reckon Seedy is going to be out for?? Maybe Harry O to break out further now??
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ziplock on January 29, 2014, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 29, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
How long do they reckon Seedy is going to be out for?? Maybe Harry O to break out further now??

6 weeks until he can resume training, and he'll probs come back through the vfl... so I'd say the first month of the season.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: The_Captain on January 29, 2014, 12:45:43 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on January 29, 2014, 12:42:36 PM
Quote from: noto07 on January 29, 2014, 12:41:40 PM
How long do they reckon Seedy is going to be out for?? Maybe Harry O to break out further now??

6 weeks until he can resume training, and he'll probs come back through the vfl... so I'd say the first month of the season.

Okay cool. Could be upgrade option then if he cops a few vests on his way back in. Was never in my starting side personally, but was always watching  ;)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: jobe#4 on February 02, 2014, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 27, 2014, 01:09:22 AM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 10:22:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 08:29:14 PM
Quote from: jobe#4 on January 26, 2014, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on January 26, 2014, 02:23:42 PM
He pretty much broke out last season. I'm keener to grab the proven premiums know and upgrade to guys like Wingard if they're maintaining their form from last season.
he has so much more potential though..

Not doubting that for a minute. Just saying I'd rather start with the proven players and upgrade to the blokes having big seasons.
I think it's better start with Wingard and mid season upgrade(if you even have to) to a premo thus you will save money on a premo trade and if Wingard's doing good then he will cost moar

What if Wingard gets a ton more attention nd averages an inconsistent 70 odd? By starting with proven premiums, you're getting points on the board early.
In a format with limited trades, you really don't want to be screwing around sideways trading players you've paid a lot for. I'm just putting my view forward (the one you asked for) so I don't get really why you're debating the point :P
yeah man I understand what you mean and you are right I was just thinking with his cheaper price, I guess we can only wait to and see how he goes, he seems to me to go under the radar.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: truBLUE on February 03, 2014, 05:10:17 PM
I'm thinking darling may be heading for a big season  :)
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on February 03, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
for those considering Prestia

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-suns-vicecaptain-dion-prestia-suffers-calf-setback-at-training/story-fnj9yd7s-1226816725995

NEWLY crowned Suns vice-captain Dion Prestia could be in doubt for round 1 after suffering a calf injury at training today.

Prestia will have scans on the calf problem later today after he was forced to pull out of the club's 2km time trial with the issue this morning.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Noz on February 03, 2014, 06:48:09 PM
I really want to pick Watts hopefully he gives me a reason in the NAB to NOT pick him.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: pommyadam on February 04, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 03, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
for those considering Prestia

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-suns-vicecaptain-dion-prestia-suffers-calf-setback-at-training/story-fnj9yd7s-1226816725995

NEWLY crowned Suns vice-captain Dion Prestia could be in doubt for round 1 after suffering a calf injury at training today.

Prestia will have scans on the calf problem later today after he was forced to pull out of the club's 2km time trial with the issue this morning.

I hate to say it, but that could be great news for a Swallow breakout, moving to the mids to replace Prestia
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: mezzoculo on February 05, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Quote from: pommyadam on February 04, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 03, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
for those considering Prestia

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-suns-vicecaptain-dion-prestia-suffers-calf-setback-at-training/story-fnj9yd7s-1226816725995

NEWLY crowned Suns vice-captain Dion Prestia could be in doubt for round 1 after suffering a calf injury at training today.

Prestia will have scans on the calf problem later today after he was forced to pull out of the club's 2km time trial with the issue this morning.

I hate to say it, but that could be great news for a Swallow breakout, moving to the mids to replace Prestia
Definitely can't hurt! Could also be good for Jesse Lonergan. He has the makings of a DT bull if he makes the most of his opportunities in a pretty strong Suns midfield.
Title: Re: Break out Players
Post by: Ricochet on February 05, 2014, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: mezzoculo on February 05, 2014, 09:47:44 AM
Quote from: pommyadam on February 04, 2014, 03:49:20 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on February 03, 2014, 06:47:21 PM
for those considering Prestia

http://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/sport/afl/gold-coast-suns-vicecaptain-dion-prestia-suffers-calf-setback-at-training/story-fnj9yd7s-1226816725995

NEWLY crowned Suns vice-captain Dion Prestia could be in doubt for round 1 after suffering a calf injury at training today.

Prestia will have scans on the calf problem later today after he was forced to pull out of the club's 2km time trial with the issue this morning.

I hate to say it, but that could be great news for a Swallow breakout, moving to the mids to replace Prestia
Definitely can't hurt! Could also be good for Jesse Lonergan. He has the makings of a DT bull if he makes the most of his opportunities in a pretty strong Suns midfield.
Latest reports are only a grade 1 injury so will only miss a few weeks