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Title: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: joshua98 on December 22, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
3 ageing stars who have gained DPP as well as a player who's role may vary. Which players, in order, would you pick for your side in 2014?
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: nib on December 22, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
1. Mcveigh
2. Mitchell
3. Bartel
4. Walker
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 22, 2013, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: nib on December 22, 2013, 11:46:46 AM
1. Mcveigh
2. Mitchell
3. Bartel
4. Walker

Swap Mitchell and McVeigh
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Big Dawg on December 22, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
1. Mitchell
2. McVeigh
3. Walker
4. Bartel
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Jroo on December 22, 2013, 12:58:35 PM
I have McVeigh locked in.
Then I'm considering the other 3 for my D2.
ATM it's
1. McVeigh
2. Bartel
3. Mitchell
4. Walker
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: shorty3264 on December 22, 2013, 01:09:09 PM
I think Sam Mitchell is clear first personally. He will play the most midfield time. Then McVeigh, and Bartel just pipping Walker. However I think the first two will score quite a bit better than the latter. So yeh Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, Walker for mine.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: specky92 on December 22, 2013, 01:44:29 PM
Quote from: Big Dawg on December 22, 2013, 12:46:54 PM
1. Mitchell
2. McVeigh
3. Walker
4. Bartel
I agree with his one, Mitchell is Mr.Consistent and was in my team last year, will average 105 again
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Footyrulz on December 22, 2013, 01:51:57 PM
1. mitchell (scores 105+ every year)
2. mcveigh (younger than mitch and bartel, very consistent scorer)
3. bartel (also a good option, but quite old and unlike mitchell, only had 1 105+ year)
4. walker (theres a chance he could move forward again which would ruin his scoring, too risky at that price)
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 22, 2013, 01:53:24 PM
Mitchell
McVeigh
Walker
Bartel

imo
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: _wato on December 22, 2013, 04:43:08 PM
In terms of points scored Mcveigh may have it but for ppg Mitchell should have it by the end of the year.

I want Mitchell but can't fit him in because of his bye. Mcveigh is the suitor to my team personally so I'd say the best choice is Mcveigh.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: GoLions on December 22, 2013, 04:44:18 PM
1 - Mitchell
2 - McVeigh

Walker and Bartel probably a tie for 3rd
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Bones Bombers on December 22, 2013, 05:40:37 PM
All four players could play different positions this year, making it a little harder to predict.

1-Mitchell, wether mostly mid or back I'd put him first.
2- McVeigh, if playing across half back. If McVeigh plays predominately mid, Jimmy should outscore him.
3- whoever is left from 2.
4- Walker, with Daisy and Carrots in the team not sure where he will be and not confident he will score as well.

I do take past season averages into consideration too, meaning I like Mitch and Jimmy.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: quinny88 on December 22, 2013, 09:19:47 PM
Mitchell
Mcveigh
Walker
Bartel

All good options though. I'm personally starting Mitchell and McVeigh
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: dmac07 on December 23, 2013, 03:23:27 PM
Im starting mitchell and mcveigh, which seems to be the consensus that those two are ahead of the others.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: nrich102 on December 23, 2013, 07:44:06 PM
1. McVeigh
2. Mitchell
3. Bartel
4. Walker
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Holz on December 23, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
the interesting thing is where do people place Simpson i actually have none of these guys in my team but i do have simpson.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: _wato on December 23, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
I don't seem to rate Simpson as much as a lot of you blokes.

Think he'll be good for top 5-6.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: ubeaut on December 23, 2013, 09:18:26 PM
Hard to rate these players due to what role they will play. If Walker plays the same role he could avg as good as the others. If McVeigh isn't HBF then I expect him to drop. Bartel could do anything had him all last year and was great but will he play HBF? Mitchell is the 1 who shouldn't vary too much.

I'd put Simpson below these with guys like Hanley,Hibberd. But they're not much below. So I'm thinking rather than try and guess who will play what role maybe save money for a few less points and spend it somewhere with more bang for buck.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: dmac07 on December 23, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 23, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
the interesting thing is where do people place Simpson i actually have none of these guys in my team but i do have simpson.
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without putting too much thought into it my oder would go sometjing like this

Based on all my predictions, im starting the 4 I have as top 4, but might drop one of hanley or simpson to suckling to make cash. Lookingrat predictions though I have 7 players between 95-100 average, which makes it almost impossible to pick. And dont think many will have hanley that high but think he can dominate next year.

1. Mitchell (107)
2. McVeigh (105)
3. Hanley (102)
4. Simpson (100)
5. Bartel (99)
6. Shaw (99)
7. Hodge (97)
8. Walker (97)
9. Hibberd (96)
10. Mckenzie (95)
11. Thompson (92)
12. Birchall (92)
13. Ibbotson (90)
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Dayze on December 23, 2013, 11:31:00 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 23, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 23, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
the interesting thing is where do people place Simpson i actually have none of these guys in my team but i do have simpson.
[/quotee]

without putting too much thought into it my oder would go sometjing like this

Based on all my predictions, im starting the 4 I have as top 4, but might drop one of hanley or simpson to suckling to make cash. Lookingrat predictions though I have 7 players between 95-100 average, which makes it almost impossible to pick. And dont think many will have hanley that high but think he can dominate next year.

1. Mitchell (107)
2. McVeigh (105)
3. Hanley (102)
4. Simpson (100)
5. Bartel (99)
6. Shaw (99)
7. Hodge (97)
8. Walker (97)
9. Hibberd (96)
10. Mckenzie (95)
11. Thompson (92)
12. Birchall (92)
13. Ibbotson (90)

Id pretty much agree with this.
Think walker is being severely underestimated tho
Mite end up being pretty unique
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: kilbluff1985 on December 23, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Don't see Simpson Averaging more then Walker
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: eaglesman on December 23, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 23, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 23, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
the interesting thing is where do people place Simpson i actually have none of these guys in my team but i do have simpson.
[/quotee]

without putting too much thought into it my oder would go sometjing like this

Based on all my predictions, im starting the 4 I have as top 4, but might drop one of hanley or simpson to suckling to make cash. Lookingrat predictions though I have 7 players between 95-100 average, which makes it almost impossible to pick. And dont think many will have hanley that high but think he can dominate next year.

1. Mitchell (107)
2. McVeigh (105)
3. Hanley (102)
4. Simpson (100)
5. Bartel (99)
6. Shaw (99)
7. Hodge (97)
8. Walker (97)
9. Hibberd (96)
10. Mckenzie (95)
11. Thompson (92)
12. Birchall (92)
13. Ibbotson (90)

i have mcveigh first

i would be surprised if hanley averaged 102 think he be less

simpson will definitely not average 100

i actually cant see simpson averaging more than thompson .. i would have thompson top 6 in that list actually .... simpson can not average more than walker surely?
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: _wato on December 24, 2013, 12:44:33 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on December 23, 2013, 11:34:43 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on December 23, 2013, 10:56:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 23, 2013, 08:15:41 PM
the interesting thing is where do people place Simpson i actually have none of these guys in my team but i do have simpson.

without putting too much thought into it my oder would go sometjing like this

Based on all my predictions, im starting the 4 I have as top 4, but might drop one of hanley or simpson to suckling to make cash. Lookingrat predictions though I have 7 players between 95-100 average, which makes it almost impossible to pick. And dont think many will have hanley that high but think he can dominate next year.

1. Mitchell (107)
2. McVeigh (105)
3. Hanley (102)
4. Simpson (100)
5. Bartel (99)
6. Shaw (99)
7. Hodge (97)
8. Walker (97)
9. Hibberd (96)
10. Mckenzie (95)
11. Thompson (92)
12. Birchall (92)
13. Ibbotson (90)

i have mcveigh first

i would be surprised if hanley averaged 102 think he be less

simpson will definitely not average 100

i actually cant see simpson averaging more than thompson .. i would have thompson top 6 in that list actually .... simpson can not average more than walker surely?


Yeah Scotty Thompson will average much more than 92 lol. He will end up a top 6 defender just like this year.

Also think you're over estimating Simpson and Hanley, would still only put them in the 95-100 range, putting them in the middle of the pack.

Top 6 for me in no order

Mcveigh, Mitchell, Thompson, Shaw, Bartel, Hodge
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Dayze on December 24, 2013, 01:16:39 AM
Mitchell
Mcveigh
Hanley
Walker
Bartel
Simpson
Fair chance all 6 could finish over 100 I reckon
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: ubeaut on December 24, 2013, 06:21:19 PM
Quote from: Dayze on December 24, 2013, 01:16:39 AM
Mitchell
Mcveigh
Hanley
Walker
Bartel
Simpson
Fair chance all 6 could finish over 100 I reckon
I agree with this. If I could pick 6 defenders straight up they would be it. Although Heath Shaw could be there as well.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Vinny on December 25, 2013, 07:00:51 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 23, 2013, 11:31:52 PM
Don't see Simpson Averaging more then Walker

There is talks of Walker going forward. Might affect him.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Sabretooth Tigers on December 25, 2013, 10:19:14 PM
 ??? ??? ???
If he goes forward Vinney do you see him getting a run through the middle ??        ::)
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
Don't understand why they would move Walker back forward. He was an elite player last year playing as a rebounding defender, but in years previously he had been an average (maybe just above) forward. Why move him back up there when he has done so well down back?
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: _wato on December 25, 2013, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
Don't understand why they would move Walker back forward. He was an elite player last year playing as a rebounding defender, but in years previously he had been an average (maybe just above) forward. Why move him back up there when he has done so well down back?

They have nobody else ahahah
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: _wato on December 25, 2013, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
Don't understand why they would move Walker back forward. He was an elite player last year playing as a rebounding defender, but in years previously he had been an average (maybe just above) forward. Why move him back up there when he has done so well down back?

They have nobody else ahahah
Could have Waite, Henderson and the resting ruck as the 3 talls, then can have Garlett, Yarran, Robinson, Menzel, even Daisy running round as the smaller forwards.

Just my opinion though obviously. Just don't get why you would take a guy out of a position where he had a career best year and should have easily been named in the AA squad.
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: eaglesman on December 26, 2013, 12:24:08 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 11:05:31 PM
Quote from: _wato on December 25, 2013, 10:56:58 PM
Quote from: Honey Badger on December 25, 2013, 10:31:31 PM
Don't understand why they would move Walker back forward. He was an elite player last year playing as a rebounding defender, but in years previously he had been an average (maybe just above) forward. Why move him back up there when he has done so well down back?

They have nobody else ahahah
Could have Waite, Henderson and the resting ruck as the 3 talls, then can have Garlett, Yarran, Robinson, Menzel, even Daisy running round as the smaller forwards.

Just my opinion though obviously. Just don't get why you would take a guy out of a position where he had a career best year and should have easily been named in the AA squad.

where is thomas going to play? although i dont think he is very defensively minded he could be a great rebounding half back who sets up play with his great foot skills

in saying this i would have walker as my preferred half backmen ,, he is a quality player ....

I cant see bartel scoring as well as he has in the past either

my clear top 4 backs are mcveigh mitchell walker and thompson

starting to get the shivers about hanley and the possible tags that could come his way

the next best 2 backs will be out of hanley mckenzie shaw and hibberd imo ... then simpson bartel
Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: _wato on December 26, 2013, 03:01:09 PM
Anyone fancy a bit of Luke Hodge? Averaged about 98 this year unsubbed, played 22 games and has a great SC history as a player, went 110+ many times so is very fantastic relevant.

Title: Re: Bartel v McVeigh v Walker v Mitchell
Post by: Doggoneit on December 26, 2013, 06:18:41 PM
At the moment I am starting

D1 McVeigh
D2 Bartel
D3 Mitchell
D4 Hodge

My reasoning is that they will all get reasonable time through the middle and are all capable of elite scoring for defenders. They are all consistent players in top teams.

My jury is still out on Walker - I dont think mick has finished fiddling with the team so I would prefer to wait and see.

Hanley is my next preferred but i'm wary of potential tags