I have just seen 'More than a Game.' DVD about the Akron 5.
I laughed. I cried. I cheered. I sat in stunned silence.
;D :'( :D :-\
Have a look if you haven't seen it.
Warning - it might melt your heart a bit.
PS I understand it may be old news to some of you, but to those who haven't seen it, it is worth it.
I'm looking at you jay.
I really want to watch this documentary. LeBron is such a good guy and doesn't deserve the hate.
Sure, Lebron has been through a lot. And I give him credit for being where he is today (the most gifted player since MJ).
But I couldn't think of a worse way to spend a couple of hours. LeBron is a cocky a$$ that I just generally cannot stand. The things he does on the court (eg just the other day he started dancing while dribbling the ball) really give me the showers.
His press conference after one of his Finals games in 2011 was just appalling! He tried to defend his fadeouts in the 4th rather than take the blame!
He's just a guy that I find really unlikeable. Watch Paul Pierce - beyond the glory, KG - Anything is possible and Boston Celtics - the 17th championship... That's what ya wanna watch ;)
I'm with Jay. I don't hate him, I respect what he does.
But to me, he just isn't someone I like watching. When you get a tattoo of the chosen one on your back for instance.... Flog radar is in the red zone...
Adopts MJ's powder toss. Chooses number 23. Gives himself the nickname 'King James'
Basically declared himself the next MJ coming out of college... ::)
Lol Windi. My flog radar breaks when I see the guy :P
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
He still sucks
I couldnt care if the best doco EVER.... I wont be watching it.
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
KG didnt make a joke of cancer and there's never been proof he said that to Duncan... Its all rumours.
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
KG didnt make a joke of cancer and there's never been proof he said that to Duncan... Its all rumours.
Calling someone with a condition a cancer patient isn't good.
Also I doubt the nicest guy in the nba is lying. There are numerous cases of kg being a bad guy. His comments about Allen are another example
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
KG didnt make a joke of cancer and there's never been proof he said that to Duncan... Its all rumours.
Calling someone with a condition a cancer patient isn't good.
Also I doubt the nicest guy in the nba is lying. There are numerous cases of kg being a bad guy. His comments about Allen are another example
But the guy didnt even have cancer... KG does whatever it takes to win! Either love him, or hate him... But there was nothing wrong with what he said about Ray.
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 04:54:18 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
KG didnt make a joke of cancer and there's never been proof he said that to Duncan... Its all rumours.
Calling someone with a condition a cancer patient isn't good.
Also I doubt the nicest guy in the nba is lying. There are numerous cases of kg being a bad guy. His comments about Allen are another example
But the guy didnt even have cancer... KG does whatever it takes to win! Either love him, or hate him... But there was nothing wrong with what he said about Ray.
He had a disease that effected his hair folices. Both insulting to him and also making fun of how people having chemo look.
Le Bron's mum seems nice. :)
Quote from: Windigo on November 08, 2013, 08:37:05 AM
I'm with Jay. I don't hate him, I respect what he does.
But to me, he just isn't someone I like watching. When you get a tattoo of the chosen one on your back for instance.... Flog radar is in the red zone...
^^^
I think I judge LeBron fairly. I'm not going to quote all my posts about him in other threads. Best player in the league. Potential to be better than MJ. Not clutch.
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Whether you think he is a good guy or not, KG is a winner. Simple as that, he is a winner.
Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Windigo on November 08, 2013, 08:37:05 AM
I'm with Jay. I don't hate him, I respect what he does.
But to me, he just isn't someone I like watching. When you get a tattoo of the chosen one on your back for instance.... Flog radar is in the red zone...
^^^
I think I judge LeBron fairly. I'm not going to quote all my posts about him in other threads. Best player in the league. Potential to be better than MJ. Not clutch.
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Whether you think he is a good guy or not, KG is a winner. Simple as that, he is a winner.
A one time winner he should show respect to the two time winner and the all time greatest shooter.
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Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 05:38:17 PM
Quote from: Windigo on November 08, 2013, 08:37:05 AM
I'm with Jay. I don't hate him, I respect what he does.
But to me, he just isn't someone I like watching. When you get a tattoo of the chosen one on your back for instance.... Flog radar is in the red zone...
^^^
I think I judge LeBron fairly. I'm not going to quote all my posts about him in other threads. Best player in the league. Potential to be better than MJ. Not clutch.
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Whether you think he is a good guy or not, KG is a winner. Simple as that, he is a winner.
A one time winner he should show respect to the two time winner and the all time greatest shooter.
Ugh. Do you even know what I mean by a winner?
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Saying KG doesnt back it up? He is an ultimate trash-talker but also the 2nd best PF of all-time...
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Saying KG doesnt back it up? He is an ultimate trash-talker but also the 2nd best PF of all-time...
No he isn't, he is top 10. Kg is just as arrogant as LeBron except LeBron is ten times the player.
First the definition of clutch, now not knowing what the term "winner" means; no point in arguing Jay.
Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
First the definition of clutch, now not knowing what the term "winner" means; no point in arguing Jay.
I like how I call LeBron a winner than people bring up only two rings. Than kg gets called a winner I bring up 1 ring and I'm wrong.
The clutch thing I'll take but the definition of winner I'm taking from arguments about LeBron apparently not a winner.
Constant double standards with LeBron.
KGs must win attitude I'm a big fan of and he gets my respect for that. He loses it with his comments and trying to put others down to win instead of just focusing on doing his best to beat them at their best.
It's why I rate Duncan very highly he has just as much a winning mentality as kg except he does it with humility and just outclasing and out working his opponents
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
First the definition of clutch, now not knowing what the term "winner" means; no point in arguing Jay.
I like how I call LeBron a winner than people bring up only two rings. Than kg gets called a winner I bring up 1 ring and I'm wrong.
You're wrong because you don't know what the term winner means.
Winning two rings doesn't make you a winner - neither does 10 rings.
I think the general consensus would have to be that Le Bron (best player in the world) is a winner.
Surely!
Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 06:16:56 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:11:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 08, 2013, 06:09:07 PM
First the definition of clutch, now not knowing what the term "winner" means; no point in arguing Jay.
I like how I call LeBron a winner than people bring up only two rings. Than kg gets called a winner I bring up 1 ring and I'm wrong.
You're wrong because you don't know what the term winner means.
Winning two rings doesn't make you a winner - neither does 10 rings.
First up it's a subjective meaning it could mean lots of different things in the context. Secondly 'm using the definition as defined by LeBron haters, that is infill he won some rings and niw that means nothing.
I called him a winner in Cleveland and got the no ring comments. So now he has rings I'm doing the same back to kg.
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Saying KG doesnt back it up? He is an ultimate trash-talker but also the 2nd best PF of all-time...
No he isn't, he is top 10. Kg is just as arrogant as LeBron except LeBron is ten times the player.
No way! Duncan, KG, Malone... Thats your top 3 definitely! His seasons in Minnesota he put up crazy stats and then coming to Boston and gets DPOY and a ring :D
I don't think KG is that arrogant tbh, not when compared to Lebron anyway...
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Saying KG doesnt back it up? He is an ultimate trash-talker but also the 2nd best PF of all-time...
No he isn't, he is top 10. Kg is just as arrogant as LeBron except LeBron is ten times the player.
No way! Duncan, KG, Malone... Thats your top 3 definitely! His seasons in Minnesota he put up crazy stats and then coming to Boston and gets DPOY and a ring :D
I don't think KG is that arrogant tbh, not when compared to Lebron anyway...
Umm petit Hayes McHale Barkley
Truth is there is a clear 1 than 6-7 guys on the same level
Lebron is the best player in the world, sure but does that make him a winner? I dont think so... If he'd won in Cleveland then I'd be applauding the man! But he didn't ;)
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:30:05 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:25:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:07:33 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 06:04:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
How is being arrogant bad and being arrogant and a jerk good because he is a supposed winner. Sure LeBron is up himself but lots of athletes are, the difference is he backs it up. If he keeps this form up he is a top 5 if all time and can push our mj.
Saying KG doesnt back it up? He is an ultimate trash-talker but also the 2nd best PF of all-time...
No he isn't, he is top 10. Kg is just as arrogant as LeBron except LeBron is ten times the player.
No way! Duncan, KG, Malone... Thats your top 3 definitely! His seasons in Minnesota he put up crazy stats and then coming to Boston and gets DPOY and a ring :D
I don't think KG is that arrogant tbh, not when compared to Lebron anyway...
Umm petit Hayes McHale Barkley
Truth is there is a clear 1 than 6-7 guys on the same level
Duncan is the clear one, KG the clear too then about 5 guys on a similar level.
He isn't a clear 2 every list of power forwards has Duncan one than the same 6-7 guys just in different orders. Sometimes he falls outside the top 5. Hayes petit McHale Barkley malone all on the same level.
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 05:58:14 PM
Definitely with Q here! KG gets shower done - whatever it takes to win. Whether that means getting under the skin of the opposition or not. He is the ultimate competitor.
Lebron is arrogant and fades out in big games.
DID YOU NOT WATCH GAME 7 LAST YEAR.
He destroyed us. You can't keep saying he fades out in big games after that performance. If he does it again this year then go ahead, but god damn man, give him credit where credits due :P
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 04:51:07 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 04:45:12 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 10:06:12 AM
Not sure how you can hate someone for being arrogant and a showman which lots of athletes are. than sing praise for a guy who made fun of one of the nicest guys in the nba mums dying and making a joke of cancer.
KG didnt make a joke of cancer and there's never been proof he said that to Duncan... Its all rumours.
Calling someone with a condition a cancer patient isn't good.
Also I doubt the nicest guy in the nba is lying. There are numerous cases of kg being a bad guy. His comments about Allen are another example
Agreed; KG's a dick :P
Sorry Jay.
MC is always a legend.
Joel selwood
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Nba.
Has it all going for him.
Both Duncan fans too.
Some games he comes up huge. Sometimes he comes up small.
If you remember correctly, I gave LeBron huge credit for how he plays in the finals. But have I forgotten about 2011 finals or how he played during some big games for Cleveland? Of course not!
KG is a winner, not a dick.
You wanna be the best.. You gotta beat the best! And he is currently the best... hate him or not.
Quote from: Holzman on November 08, 2013, 06:52:03 PM
MC is always a legend.
Joel selwood
Avatar
Nba.
Has it all going for him.
Both Duncan fans too.
Haha, Selwood is not a good thing :(
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Some games he comes up huge. Sometimes he comes up small.
If you remember correctly, I gave LeBron huge credit for how he plays in the finals. But have I forgotten about 2011 finals or how he played during some big games for Cleveland? Of course not!
KG is a winner, not a dick.
But you can't keep throwing around the statement that he doesn't come up big in big games when the most recent big game he was in he did come up big!
And as for KG, I'm okay with you saying he's a winner and he does whatever it takes etc, because you are a diehard Celts fan, but you have to admit, it's reasonable to think he's a dick.
Quote from: My Chumps on November 08, 2013, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Some games he comes up huge. Sometimes he comes up small.
If you remember correctly, I gave LeBron huge credit for how he plays in the finals. But have I forgotten about 2011 finals or how he played during some big games for Cleveland? Of course not!
KG is a winner, not a dick.
But you can't keep throwing around the statement that he doesn't come up big in big games when the most recent big game he was in he did come up big!
And as for KG, I'm okay with you saying he's a winner and he does whatever it takes etc, because you are a diehard Celts fan, but you have to admit, it's reasonable to think he's a dick.
He comes up huge in
some big games. But he still can come up pretty small in the crucial moments... Watch the end of game 6. Lebron turned it over twice in the last minute and also missed the three to tie the game...
Some of the things he has
allegedly have been pretty bad - I've got a problem with the Tim Duncan one if that really happened. But off the court, KG is the nicest bloke. He wants to win more than anything else and is one of the biggest team players I've ever seen. Never seen him be selfish and the help he gives to the young guys is phenomenal...
The guy is inspirational with his leadership in particular on the defensive end... This is my favourite nba moment of all-time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyjOy7fRzs0
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 08:03:04 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 08, 2013, 07:52:15 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 08, 2013, 07:01:08 PM
Some games he comes up huge. Sometimes he comes up small.
If you remember correctly, I gave LeBron huge credit for how he plays in the finals. But have I forgotten about 2011 finals or how he played during some big games for Cleveland? Of course not!
KG is a winner, not a dick.
But you can't keep throwing around the statement that he doesn't come up big in big games when the most recent big game he was in he did come up big!
And as for KG, I'm okay with you saying he's a winner and he does whatever it takes etc, because you are a diehard Celts fan, but you have to admit, it's reasonable to think he's a dick.
He comes up huge in some big games. But he still can come up pretty small in the crucial moments... Watch the end of game 6. Lebron turned it over twice in the last minute and also missed the three to tie the game...
Some of the things he has allegedly have been pretty bad - I've got a problem with the Tim Duncan one if that really happened. But off the court, KG is the nicest bloke. He wants to win more than anything else and is one of the biggest team players I've ever seen. Never seen him be selfish and the help he gives to the young guys is phenomenal...
The guy is inspirational with his leadership in particular on the defensive end... This is my favourite nba moment of all-time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyjOy7fRzs0
Yeah, I know. I mean, it's fair enough that you like KG, and I'm not doubting that he might be a great bloke off the court, but I still think he's a dick on the court :P
Quote from: tor01doc on November 08, 2013, 05:01:43 PM
Le Bron's mum seems nice. :)
While he was riding south, she was riding West