Poll
Question:
Have Australia taken this seriously?
Option 1: yes, they are doing Australia proud
votes: 4
Option 2: no, poor attitude,under prepared and not a full squad
votes: 24
Can the Australia make up the points?
When is it on
I am going to give it a watch, excited to see what Aussies can do. Lets bounce back lads!
Quote from: vinny on October 24, 2013, 06:37:20 PM
I am going to give it a watch, excited to see what Aussies can do. Lets bounce back lads!
I hope so. Last week was embarrassing.
They need to get physical! Ireland have the clear advantage skill wise, ours is to apply immense pressure. It's time we do it with some passion.
What was the result?
Quote from: Master Q on October 26, 2013, 01:00:46 PM
What was the result?
They're playing tomorrow morning.
It's 6:30am tomorrow... nrich just wanted everyone to get up early. Feel free to send him hate mail
Haha lucky I didn't get up!
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
It's 6:30am tomorrow... nrich just wanted everyone to get up early. Feel free to send him hate mail
lol I was up then anyways. :P
::) I thought I missed it, hopefully we can at least get a win, need to make use of our second half, 8)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
It's 6:30am tomorrow... nrich just wanted everyone to get up early. Feel free to send him hate mail
A mod's given us permission. ;D
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
It's 6:30am tomorrow... nrich just wanted everyone to get up early. Feel free to send him hate mail
A mod's given us permission. ;D
:o ;D
Quote from: NigeyS on October 26, 2013, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2013, 01:48:00 PM
It's 6:30am tomorrow... nrich just wanted everyone to get up early. Feel free to send him hate mail
A mod's given us permission. ;D
Where is it? :P
Sorry guys. I thought it was tomorrow, must have just posted Saturday. Sorry.
Oz said "Feel free to send him hate mail."
So rip into him and there shall be zero consequences ;D ;)
Should be a half with the round ball and a half with our ball to be fair, unless you've played soccer very hard to kick a round ball accurately consistently. :-X
Easier to kick a round ball than an oval ball...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
Easier to kick a round ball than an oval ball...
Yeh I don't disagree CF, ive played a lot of both sports (Soccer, Footy) but i'll bet those that haven't would find it difficult to kick the round ball accurately over 50 metres without shanking it to the left or right and missing the target by a big margin.
Heaps easier to mark a round ball to isn't it ? And bounce it
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 08:10:13 PM
Heaps easier to mark a round ball to isn't it ?
Of course but we don't have any trouble marking it do we, we just cant hit a target consistently over as little as 30-40 metres.
I reckon it's easier to kick a footy straight, but much harder in every other area eg bouncing, marking etc...
Quote from: Grazz on October 26, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 08:10:13 PM
Heaps easier to mark a round ball to isn't it ?
Of course but we don't have any trouble marking it do we, we just cant hit a target consistently over as little as 30-40 metres.
No just pointing out if we played it with an oval ball for a half or whatever they would struggle as much as us
IMO they should play the second game with an oval ball then decide the series by total points would be more fair
I think the flight and bounce screwed us the most last game, can't afford to kick it over the top, ::) and I agree, a bit of practice with the round ball and it really shouldn't be that difficult, requires or finesse than the oval ball
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 08:21:25 PM
Quote from: Grazz on October 26, 2013, 08:12:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 26, 2013, 08:10:13 PM
Heaps easier to mark a round ball to isn't it ?
Of course but we don't have any trouble marking it do we, we just cant hit a target consistently over as little as 30-40 metres.
No just pointing out if we played it with an oval ball for a half or whatever they would struggle as much as us
IMO they should play the second game with an oval ball then decide the series by total points would be more fair
Yeh id be happy with that mate to make it a more even/fairer contest.
Quote from: Master Q on October 26, 2013, 08:20:13 PM
I reckon it's easier to kick a footy straight, but much harder in every other area eg bouncing, marking etc...
I agree mate but that's with a lot of years playing footy, I still believe I could kick a footy more accurately over distance on a calm or windy day/night. Played a lot of soccer as a keeper and a striker ands its a lot easier for me to kick a footy accurately over distance consistently hitting a target, its easier to hit a target over distance with the round ball on the ground for me than when its in your hands as say a keeper would do often.
Agree with every single word Grazz ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
Easier to kick a round ball than an oval ball...
easier to learn maybe, but not necessarily easy to transition.
Ireland is to good.
How pathetic
Ireland deserved it. Hope next time we try.
Wow just saw the score!! :o
Deplorable could probably be seen as an understatement. Woeful.
Watching it at the moment, we are just not tighening up the defense and letting so many link ups through.
maybe we should now pick an all-indigenous team for the Ashes :o
#outstandingsuccess
Quote from: nostradamus on October 27, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
maybe we should now pick an all-indigenous team for the Ashes :o
#outstandingsuccess
Bring back dizzy? :D
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 11:38:39 AM
Quote from: nostradamus on October 27, 2013, 11:04:48 AM
maybe we should now pick an all-indigenous team for the Ashes :o
#outstandingsuccess
Bring back dizzy? :D
he could open the batting
#201
In the end it's Ireland's best 22 players vs. guys like Tony Armstrong and Alwyn Davey. Can't really expect much from guys who have barely proved to be good enough at AFL level
Yeah that's true, we would have been super competitive if we had our best team on the park. 2005 is a good example of that. Still quite a shower performance from the boys :-\
Ireland took it serious and simply Australia didnt. the crowed was going off, even cheering points.
The problem with this series has never been the Irish, they always bring a strong team and the crwoed supports it. The irish players relish the oppurtunity to reprent their country. Consdering AFL is one of the few high profile sports that you cant represent your team i would have hoped the best of the best would want to play.
the issue is its all about the money and people dont want to risk injury.
on that note
(http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/70735000/jpg/_70735427_murphywalsh.jpg)
We had some guys playing that wouldn't even get in the best 22 in most top 8 sides. It's embarrassing really, wish we had taken it a bit more seriously.
Interesting read this (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-27/terrible-decisionmaking).
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 28, 2013, 12:09:56 PM
Interesting read this (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-27/terrible-decisionmaking).
im not suprised you bring guys who are fringe 22 players and no wonder they dont peform. They do the same thing in the AFL.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
No its not at all racist, it's just a bad move as they represent less of AFL player = less high quality players (i already said that tho)
The fact is, if this was a non-indigenous team that went out drinking and lost by 70 points, they would get less than half the criticism from the media that they're getting now.
It's just disappointing from all aspects by the AFL
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
No its not at all racist, it's just a bad move as they represent less of AFL player = less high quality players (i already said that tho)
The fact is, if this was a non-indigenous team that went out drinking and lost by 70 points, they would get less than half the criticism from the media that they're getting now.
It's just disappointing from all aspects by the AFL
isnt in unfair that players who want to represent their country arent allowed to because of their race.
I pose another question at you.
if it was the Anglo Saxon All Stars v Ireland do you think anyone would have issue with it,.
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
No its not at all racist, it's just a bad move as they represent less of AFL player = less high quality players (i already said that tho)
The fact is, if this was a non-indigenous team that went out drinking and lost by 70 points, they would get less than half the criticism from the media that they're getting now.
It's just disappointing from all aspects by the AFL
isnt in unfair that players who want to represent their country arent allowed to because of their race.
I pose another question at you.
if it was the Anglo Saxon All Stars v Ireland do you think anyone would have issue with it,.
You're confusing International Rules as anything but an exhibition match. It isn't the Olympics, the "pride" associated with being picked is close to non-existent beforehand anyway. Players are valuing minor injuries, family and even weddings over these matches.
The mainstream media wouldn't care if it was switched
I wouldn't go as far as saying it is a 'racist' concept, but I definitely think it is outdated.
Any rule - in sport or society - that is dependent on your race is something I'm against.
The Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander are not an independent community of Australia, they are not a separate state of Australia, they are part of Australia. Simple as that.
I wouldn't say it's a racist concept either, but the ideas behind it are one's that were used during Paternalism and Protection policy from a long time ago :)
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
Exactly Holz.....can you imagine the furore had the AFL sent a team exempting indigenous players? It would be just as wrong, but the reaction would have been vastly different
#doublestandards
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 01:13:33 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 01:06:34 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 12:51:54 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 12:24:11 PM
While there is a fairly large underlying idea of racism in all the media reporting, O'Loughlin really couldn't expect anything more from the team.
isnt the fact that non indeginous players wernt allowed to play in it self rascist though?
it wasnt Ireland v Australia
it was Ireland v a small portion of Australia.
No its not at all racist, it's just a bad move as they represent less of AFL player = less high quality players (i already said that tho)
The fact is, if this was a non-indigenous team that went out drinking and lost by 70 points, they would get less than half the criticism from the media that they're getting now.
It's just disappointing from all aspects by the AFL
isnt in unfair that players who want to represent their country arent allowed to because of their race.
I pose another question at you.
if it was the Anglo Saxon All Stars v Ireland do you think anyone would have issue with it,.
You're confusing International Rules as anything but an exhibition match. It isn't the Olympics, the "pride" associated with being picked is close to non-existent beforehand anyway. Players are valuing minor injuries, family and even weddings over these matches.
The mainstream media wouldn't care if it was switched
i probably place it much higher due to my Irish heritage and the belief that International Rules for me is the best sport in the world (combines all the aspects of sport that i like)
it would be front page news is they changed it to a white only team.
as Ossie said im against anything that is restricted by race.
State v State in the AFL comp, Country v Country is what is should be.
No doubt it obviously means more to the Irish culture, although the extent I have little idea
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
No doubt it obviously means more to the Irish culture, although the extent I have little idea
its a huge deal, its basically the best of the best who get selected.
Im pretty sure they would get a big crowed if they had Selwood, Cotchin, Ablett, Dangerfield, Fyfe etc.. all lining up.
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
No doubt it obviously means more to the Irish culture, although the extent I have little idea
its a huge deal, its basically the best of the best who get selected.
Im pretty sure they would get a big crowed if they had Selwood, Cotchin, Ablett, Dangerfield, Fyfe etc.. all lining up.
Maybe in Australia, but it wouldn't make a difference in Ireland
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 03:23:45 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 28, 2013, 03:14:23 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2013, 02:32:14 PM
No doubt it obviously means more to the Irish culture, although the extent I have little idea
its a huge deal, its basically the best of the best who get selected.
Im pretty sure they would get a big crowed if they had Selwood, Cotchin, Ablett, Dangerfield, Fyfe etc.. all lining up.
Maybe in Australia, but it wouldn't make a difference in Ireland
Ireland isnt the problem, they get the crowds and the viewers.
The crowd was fantastic this series, the faiulrue was australia peformance and australia tv numbers.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 28, 2013, 01:18:39 PM
I wouldn't go as far as saying it is a 'racist' concept, but I definitely think it is outdated.
Any rule - in sport or society - that is dependent on your race is something I'm against.
The Aboriginal and Torres Straight Islander are not an independent community of Australia, they are not a separate state of Australia, they are part of Australia. Simple as that.
Exactly right mate couldn't of said it better.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-20/life-in-irs-yet-demetriou (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-11-20/life-in-irs-yet-demetriou)
Hope IRS continues, but who knows what will happen.
I think most Aussies have lost interest in it, although from what I've heard the Irish love it and bring in the big crowds.