What would you boys offer??
Pick 22. Or Jarrad Grant.
(http://i.imgur.com/vRAjqTO.jpg)
Essendon don't want to trade. I hope he walks to the PSD.
Quote from: woofy on September 24, 2013, 10:50:29 PM
Essendon don't want to trade. I hope he walks to the PSD.
what makes you say that? if he decides he wants to leave we wont try and stop him
Yeh he wants out, so surely they would want something back in return for him.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
Yeh he wants out, so surely they would want something back in return for him.
he's said this whole time he wants to stay at the bombers unless there is something I'm missing?
Quote from: specky92 on September 25, 2013, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
Yeh he wants out, so surely they would want something back in return for him.
he's said this whole time he wants to stay at the bombers unless there is something I'm missing?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-25/dons-to-dogs-crameri-wants-trade
Dons to Dogs: Crameri wants tradeSTEWART Crameri has informed Essendon he wants to be traded to the Western Bulldogs.
Well, there you go. I hope it works out for him.
I hope he leaves.
Where is the loyalty hahah? :P
I think players can be excused for wanting to leave Essendon atm
Yeah true but if they did "nothing wrong" who cares what people think ;)
Quote from: vinny on September 25, 2013, 08:26:48 PM
Yeah true but if they did "nothing wrong" who cares what people think ;)
lol
Sam Landsberger @SamLandsberger 50s
Essendon reacted with a hard ball approach, but expect the Stewie Crameri trade to go down early. He could be a Western Bulldog next week.
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2013, 12:40:21 PM
Quote from: specky92 on September 25, 2013, 12:35:17 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 25, 2013, 12:25:05 PM
Yeh he wants out, so surely they would want something back in return for him.
he's said this whole time he wants to stay at the bombers unless there is something I'm missing?
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-25/dons-to-dogs-crameri-wants-trade
Dons to Dogs: Crameri wants trade
STEWART Crameri has informed Essendon he wants to be traded to the Western Bulldogs.
cheers ric, :)
"News developing that Essendon refuse to let go of Stewart Crameri for anything less than a first round pick. The Bulldogs have been more than obliging, and were happy to handover pick 22 earlier this morning, however Essendon want a pick between 13-17 for Crameri, which is understandably overs.
Essendon risk losing Crameri to the preseason draft if they continue to play hardball, and the Dogs have already eluded them to the fact that they "don"t have to" trade for him if they're going to be difficult."
- AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
OMG, don't ruin this for us whoever is running the ship, but seriously I think he's worth a tad more than pick 22,
take 22 and maybe a pick upgrade ya stooges
Quote from: specky92 on October 07, 2013, 04:42:12 PM
OMG, don't ruin this for us whoever is running the ship, but seriously I think he's worth a tad more than pick 22,
Adrian Dodoro.
Couldn't have a bigger flog in charge. Warwick Capper could probably do a better job in between all his antics.
LMFAO...
"Mark Stevens from the AFL has told Triple M that in a bit of a dummy spit - Essendon are "no longer" speaking to the Western Bulldogs after being offended that the Dogs' offer was only pick 22.
The Dons are demanding a pick between 13-17 and the Crameri camp have no issues of walking to the PSD if Essendon continue to be difficult."
- AFL Draft, Trade, Free Agency, List and General News
If I was WB I'd just walk out on it. You can draft a player much better than Crameri at 22 anyway....
Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked, noooooo, :'( :'(
they don't want him to go, maybe swap our 3rd round picks as well, not much but maybe a bit better
Quote from: NigeyS on October 07, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 07, 2013, 04:42:12 PM
OMG, don't ruin this for us whoever is running the ship, but seriously I think he's worth a tad more than pick 22,
Adrian Dodoro.
Couldn't have a bigger flog in charge. Warwick Capper could probably do a better job in between all his antics.
Caaapppppppppppeeeerrr!!!!
Haha seriously though, the Bulldogs should say 22 or nothing. If the Dons don't like it Crameri can just walk into the PSD can't he?
Quote from: NigeyS on October 07, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 07, 2013, 04:42:12 PM
OMG, don't ruin this for us whoever is running the ship, but seriously I think he's worth a tad more than pick 22,
Adrian Dodoro.
Couldn't have a bigger flog in charge. Warwick Capper could probably do a better job in between all his antics.
Yeah from the footage of him talking he looked like a bit of a tosser
Quote from: JROO8 on October 08, 2013, 07:32:03 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 07, 2013, 04:44:59 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 07, 2013, 04:42:12 PM
OMG, don't ruin this for us whoever is running the ship, but seriously I think he's worth a tad more than pick 22,
Adrian Dodoro.
Couldn't have a bigger flog in charge. Warwick Capper could probably do a better job in between all his antics.
Caaapppppppppppeeeerrr!!!!
Haha seriously though, the Bulldogs should say 22 or nothing. If the Dons don't like it Crameri can just walk into the PSD can't he?
Yep, but I don't think Adrian Dodoro knows that... ::) :P ;D
Dodorororororo looks like a dodgy car salesman.
If Essendon want to be this stubborn I'd be really happy with getting Crameri in the PSD and using that pick 22 in the national draft.
Quote from: woofy on October 08, 2013, 09:15:43 PM
Dodorororororo looks like a dodgy car salesman.
If Essendon want to be this stubborn I'd be really happy with getting Crameri in the PSD and using that pick 22 in the national draft.
If this happens, the Dogs have done bloody well. :o
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
Not really. If they don't need him, there's no point wasting a pick on him. GWS definitely won't take him, Melbourne don't need him and the Saints will probably give him a miss.
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
You also have to note that players that are linked to particular clubs are generally left alone in the PSD.
Examples of this are Tippett-Sydney, and Ball/Collingwood
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
You also have to note that players that are linked to particular clubs are generally left alone in the PSD.
Examples of this are Tippett-Sydney, and Ball/Collingwood
that's because they put a high price tag on thier head i.e
crammers says i want 600k a year
if anyone but doggies take him they have to give him at least that for 1 year
if doggies take him signs the same contract just front loaded more
only problem with this trick is it can backfire
if teams have the money and do pick him up he has 2 choices
play or sit out a whole year his choice
rarely happens but as i read somewhere think it was bomber blitz
it never really happens
but someone wrote on there this happened to nick stevens he wanted to go to the pies entered the PSD and blues picked him up he had those 2 choices play or sit out
ofc i highly doubt either of those 3 would risk taking a guy who doesn't want to play for them etc
i see why the bombers are being hardnuts
because of the mcartney link his raiding the bombers listed and reserve listed players
Quote > At the end of the 2003 season, Stevens expressed a desire to return to his native Melbourne and wished to be traded to Collingwood. Port Adelaide was unable to obtain what it considered appropriate trade consideration and as a result, Stevens quit the club and entered the pre-season draft. He was subsequently drafted by Carlton with the second selection in that draft.
Quote from: naste on October 08, 2013, 09:52:07 PM
Quote > At the end of the 2003 season, Stevens expressed a desire to return to his native Melbourne and wished to be traded to Collingwood. Port Adelaide was unable to obtain what it considered appropriate trade consideration and as a result, Stevens quit the club and entered the pre-season draft. He was subsequently drafted by Carlton with the second selection in that draft.
ahh so it was right thanks naste :)
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
You also have to note that players that are linked to particular clubs are generally left alone in the PSD.
Examples of this are Tippett-Sydney, and Ball/Collingwood
The most recent examples I can think of, of a player not getting to the club that was going to take them, was Hannath to Freo instead of Melbourne who he was training with, and the late J-Mac who was training with the Tiges but was swooped on by Port.
those all would have been relatively inexpensive players though- clubs dont really want to work out the big bucks for blokes who dont want to be there.
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
I knew you had one or two F/S picks next year, didn't realise it was 5. :o
Quote from: DazBurg on October 08, 2013, 09:47:15 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2013, 09:36:56 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:27:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:24:09 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 09:21:39 PM
I don't think I get the PSD... If Crameri chooses to go into it because we can't get a trade done, won't whoever has pick 1 in he PSD get him and not WB? Just curious
If he walks out on the Dons, he can be picked up the in the PSD. The 3 clubs with picks before them - GWS, Dees and Saints are don't need or want him. So, the Dogs can take him with their first pick in that draft.
yeah that's what I thought but surely one of those 3 clubs would grab a player like Crameri over the usual PSD recruits
You also have to note that players that are linked to particular clubs are generally left alone in the PSD.
Examples of this are Tippett-Sydney, and Ball/Collingwood
that's because they put a high price tag on thier head i.e
crammers says i want 600k a year
if anyone but doggies take him they have to give him at least that for 1 year
if doggies take him signs the same contract just front loaded more
only problem with this trick is it can backfire
if teams have the money and do pick him up he has 2 choices
play or sit out a whole year his choice
rarely happens but as i read somewhere think it was bomber blitz
it never really happens
but someone wrote on there this happened to nick stevens he wanted to go to the pies entered the PSD and blues picked him up he had those 2 choices play or sit out
ofc i highly doubt either of those 3 would risk taking a guy who doesn't want to play for them etc
i see why the bombers are being hardnuts
because of the mcartney link his raiding the bombers listed and reserve listed players
No offence but no club is going to waste 600k for any amount of years for a player who doesn't want to be there and is almost guaranteed to leave as soon as the first year ends
The players that don't get to their desired clubs are usually delisted players.
Plus GWS don't need him, Melbourne can't afford to have him and St. Kilda wouldn't bother either
Bachar Houli wanted to be traded to Richmond but the Bombers refused to accept the deal they were offered, so they let him walk for nothing. Surely they aren't stupid enough to let it happen again.
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Bachar Houli wanted to be traded to Richmond but the Bombers refused to accept the deal they were offered, so they let him walk for nothing. Surely they aren't stupid enough to let it happen again.
well they dealt monfires for a 3rd rounder last season
I think St Kilda will the biggest threat if Crameri walks to the PSD. GWS and Melb don't need forwards and St Kilda just love crashing our party.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
I knew you had one or two F/S picks next year, didn't realise it was 5. :o
Didn't realise it was 5 either. Wallis, Cordy and?
Quote from: DazBurg on October 08, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Bachar Houli wanted to be traded to Richmond but the Bombers refused to accept the deal they were offered, so they let him walk for nothing. Surely they aren't stupid enough to let it happen again.
well they dealt monfires for a 3rd rounder last season
Yeah but they clearly underrated Mons, then he stars back home!
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 08, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Bachar Houli wanted to be traded to Richmond but the Bombers refused to accept the deal they were offered, so they let him walk for nothing. Surely they aren't stupid enough to let it happen again.
well they dealt monfires for a 3rd rounder last season
Yeah but they clearly underrated Mons, then he stars back home!
nah think it wasn't underrating it was monfries been a great servant so were happy to send him home as port willing to pay alot more and more years then we were prepared too
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:19:16 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 08, 2013, 10:15:05 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:10:23 PM
Bachar Houli wanted to be traded to Richmond but the Bombers refused to accept the deal they were offered, so they let him walk for nothing. Surely they aren't stupid enough to let it happen again.
well they dealt monfires for a 3rd rounder last season
Yeah but they clearly underrated Mons, then he stars back home!
He has almost identical stats now as he did at Essendon :P
Quote from: woofy on October 08, 2013, 10:18:46 PM
I think St Kilda will the biggest threat if Crameri walks to the PSD. GWS and Melb don't need forwards and St Kilda just love crashing our party.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
I knew you had one or two F/S picks next year, didn't realise it was 5. :o
Didn't realise it was 5 either. Wallis, Cordy and?
Jayden Foster, Zaine Cordy, Josh Wallis, Darcy Macpherson and Jacob Smith all available as Father/Son picks next year if the list (http://ourfooty.com.au/forum/showthread.php?tid=4454) (they're all the potential picks apparently :o) I found is right. I knew about Zaine and Josh Wallis... had no clue about the others. Foster could have been taken this year apaprently. :o
So why was Monfries let go so easily? He wanted to come home?
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: woofy on October 08, 2013, 10:18:46 PM
I think St Kilda will the biggest threat if Crameri walks to the PSD. GWS and Melb don't need forwards and St Kilda just love crashing our party.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
I knew you had one or two F/S picks next year, didn't realise it was 5. :o
Didn't realise it was 5 either. Wallis, Cordy and?
Jayden Foster, Zaine Cordy, Josh Wallis, Darcy Macpherson and Jacob Smith all available as Father/Son picks next year if the list (http://ourfooty.com.au/forum/showthread.php?tid=4454) (they're all the potential picks apparently :o) I found is right. I knew about Zaine and Josh Wallis... had no clue about the others. Foster could have been taken this year apaprently. :o
Are any top 20 prospects?
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:35:47 PM
So why was Monfries let go so easily? He wanted to come home?
It's about what he's worth. The reason that his average goals increased (and why Port did so well) was because the midfield became significantly better and Monfries had Schulz draw lots of attention away from his opponent.
Other than that he's a solid, albeit average player
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2013, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:35:47 PM
So why was Monfries let go so easily? He wanted to come home?
It's about what he's worth. The reason that his average goals increased (and why Port did so well) was because the midfield became significantly better and Monfries had Schulz draw lots of attention away from his opponent.
Other than that he's a solid, albeit average player
I disagree on the average player, good player imo, but who would believe tbag on that :P
Quote from: specky92 on October 08, 2013, 10:37:27 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:32:58 PM
Quote from: woofy on October 08, 2013, 10:18:46 PM
I think St Kilda will the biggest threat if Crameri walks to the PSD. GWS and Melb don't need forwards and St Kilda just love crashing our party.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 08, 2013, 10:03:30 PM
We'll end up swapping pick 40 for 45 I think, which doesn't really matter much. We may as well just give in. 22 will be 26 after free agency compo picks. 26 and 44 for Crameri and 49 is still a pretty good deal for us.
We don't need to draft anyone special with our 3rd rounder. We've had a good haul in the last few years and we have FIVE father/sons available next year.
I knew you had one or two F/S picks next year, didn't realise it was 5. :o
Didn't realise it was 5 either. Wallis, Cordy and?
Jayden Foster, Zaine Cordy, Josh Wallis, Darcy Macpherson and Jacob Smith all available as Father/Son picks next year if the list (http://ourfooty.com.au/forum/showthread.php?tid=4454) (they're all the potential picks apparently :o) I found is right. I knew about Zaine and Josh Wallis... had no clue about the others. Foster could have been taken this year apaprently. :o
Are any top 20 prospects?
Haven't looked into them too much yet, I will be now though.
Good ol' Jose Romero. What a player! 8)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:45:24 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 08, 2013, 10:42:45 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:35:47 PM
So why was Monfries let go so easily? He wanted to come home?
It's about what he's worth. The reason that his average goals increased (and why Port did so well) was because the midfield became significantly better and Monfries had Schulz draw lots of attention away from his opponent.
Other than that he's a solid, albeit average player
I disagree on the average player, good player imo, but who would believe tbag on that :P
Well my statistics say that (bar goals increased in 2013) that he has averaged the same Footy stats for 7 years of his career :P
This is a list from a thread meow meow posted a while ago
Will Beasley - more interested in rowing.
Lachlan Hunter â€" (2012 Draft)
Luke Kennedy â€" (2013 Draft)
Jayden Foster â€" (2013 Draft)
Zaine Cordy â€" (2014 Draft)
Josh Wallis â€" (2014 Draft)
Darcy MacPherson - (2015 Draft)
Jacob Smith (2015 Draft)
Rhylee West â€" (2018 Draft)
Sam Darcy â€" (2019 Draft)
Cooper West â€" (2021 Draft)
Kobi West â€" (2021 Draft)
Kyan Eagleton - (2022 Draft)
Mitchell Croft â€" (2022 Draft)
Jordan Croft â€" (2022 Draft)
Tom Garlick â€" (2023 Draft)
Max Darcy â€" (2023 Draft)
Jarvis Murphy â€" (2023 Draft)
Jack Johnson â€" (2023 Draft)
Harry Cameron â€" (2024 Draft)
Lukas Eagleton â€" (2025 Draft)
Jaxon Cooney â€" (2025 Draft)
Oliver Grant â€" (2025 Draft)
Cohen Lake â€" (2025 Draft)
Sonny Garlick â€" (2025 Draft)
Riley Morris â€" (2026 Draft)
Malachy Picken â€" (2030 Draft)
Otis Giansiracusa - (2030 Draft)
Tyler Cross - (2030 Draft)
There are a couple more to add to the list for example the Romeo boys and Oliver Libertore who I'm excited about.
Can probably cross about half of those as ever becoming Footballers but that's certainly a lot of them :o
Jarvis Murphy has to become a footballer purely because he's got the best name going around.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2013, 10:35:47 PM
So why was Monfries let go so easily? He wanted to come home?
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Monfries was a free agent last year. He was always leaving Essendon and was always going to Port and could of through free agency.
Port were losing Chaplin and Pearce through free agency and if they picked up Monfries as a free agent they would have got a lower compensation pick than what they eventually did. Also as Essendon secured Goddard through free agency they would have received no compensation for Monfries leaving as a free agent
Therefore the two teams negotiated a trade, Port's third round draft pick (48) which was a win-win for both clubs
Port got Monfries and kept the full compensation for losing Chaplin and Pearce
Essendon got a draft pick instead of nothing
The Bulldogs' Picks 26 and 42 are set to be sent to the Bombers in exchange for Stewart Crameri and pick 66 according to the Herald Sun.
Even then the Bulldogs are overpaying. Oh well i guess they get their man
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 01:31:42 PM
The Bulldogs' Picks 26 and 42 are set to be sent to the Bombers in exchange for Stewart Crameri and pick 66 according to the Herald Sun.
That is a rubbish trade and I wouldn't be happy with it. Would not have minded the swap of pick 42 for 48 but that is gone to GWS. PSD please.
Quote from: meow meow on October 22, 2013, 02:26:18 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 22, 2013, 01:50:23 PM
Even then the Bulldogs are overpaying. Oh well i guess they get their man
Not really overpaying. Crameri has topped the Bombers goalkicking 3 years in a row. There is not a heap of players in the AFL who you know will kick 40+ goals a year. If Stew plays 22 games he'll definitely do it.
Over a third of his goals came from games against GWS, GC and Melbourne where the average winning margin was >60 points
That kind of player isn't going to make WB that much better if you lose 26 and 42, which are decent picks
leading goal kicking in the 30's isn't great, he has f50 pressure but
Averaging 2 goals a game is decent, but taking out the games against worst 3 sides he plays against gives him a goal per game average of 1.
Not to mention that leading Essendon's goalscoring isn't particularly special since Lloyd and Lucas left. Midfield carries a lot more weight
@traderadio: DONE DEAL: Stewart Crameri officially a @westernbulldogs player in exchange for pick 26 #tradedebate
Hopefully this speeds up the Gumbleton trade
Dogs get their man, good on 'em.
Well done doggies, an AFL ready kpf for pick 26, decent effort
Quote from: specky92 on October 24, 2013, 02:54:19 PM
Well done doggies, an AFL ready kpf for pick 26, decent effort
Crameri is only 186cm's tall, so he isn't exactly a BIG KPF. Not sure why'd they go after him to lead their forward line, he's more of a 3rd tall forward.
Quote from: JROO8 on October 24, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 24, 2013, 02:54:19 PM
Well done doggies, an AFL ready kpf for pick 26, decent effort
Crameri is only 186cm's tall, so he isn't exactly a BIG KPF. Not sure why'd they go after him to lead their forward line, he's more of a 3rd tall forward.
absolute rig though, ;)
Quote from: specky92 on October 24, 2013, 03:01:17 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on October 24, 2013, 02:57:44 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 24, 2013, 02:54:19 PM
Well done doggies, an AFL ready kpf for pick 26, decent effort
Crameri is only 186cm's tall, so he isn't exactly a BIG KPF. Not sure why'd they go after him to lead their forward line, he's more of a 3rd tall forward.
absolute rig though, ;)
Yeah and tbh he looks a lot bigger than 186cm's.
He also 95 kg's so he's not that small. Still I'm sure the Dogs are happy with him for pick 26.
he used to bench the most at the bombers
makes fwd line look nice!
Woohoo! Only took a month.. But happy the dogs didn't budge on their offer of pick 26. Will be interesting to see what we will do with our pick 42 now.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/new-dog-ready-for-new-tricks
He was also excited by McCartney's suggestions of stints in the midfield and perhaps even across half-back.
Quote from: Cicjose on October 28, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/new-dog-ready-for-new-tricks
He was also excited by McCartney's suggestions of stints in the midfield and perhaps even across half-back.
that's an interesting move, certainly a big bodied mid!
Quote from: Cicjose on October 28, 2013, 09:30:57 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-28/new-dog-ready-for-new-tricks
He was also excited by McCartney's suggestions of stints in the midfield and perhaps even across half-back.
They'll probably give him a go in pre-season and if he does okay, might even do it regularly. I think they need him up forward more than anything though.
Sometimes coaches say anything to get there guy to the club :p
Is he 186 or 190cm?
Quote from: meow meow on November 04, 2013, 10:31:10 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 04, 2013, 06:44:18 PM
Is he 186 or 190cm?
186 but plays like he's 192. I'd back him in a marking contest against the likes of Toovey (189) or Mackie (192). He should do pretty well if we don't try to use him as a key position player. Jones and Campbell should handle that and allow Crameri to play as 3rd tall.
Essendon, wb, Wikipedia, fan footy, afl, all of them have him listed at 190? So what's the go there ?