2013-14 Trading Period
So... who has which player? See the third post on this thread!
RULES FOR SECOND TRADE PERIOD
- Trades can only occur if they are resulting from DPP positions
- Have to be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3 or 4 for 4
- Only 4 player movements allowed
- Still can't go over or under cap
- I decide solely on the trades. However, people have the right to appeal my decision. If 6 coaches PM me, we will open discussions again regarding the trading.
Movements:
3: Berlin, Dublin
1: Buenos Aires, Cairo
First, with the rules:
The Cap
Everybody gave a lot of feedback, and hopefully this solution is okay with everybody.
Last year, the cap was 33,000 (total points scored by your players over the 17 WXV rounds). The final points for this year are:
Cairo: 33,692
Mexico City: 33,054
Sao Paulo: 31,841
Berlin: 31,649
London: 31,546
Toronto: 30,866
Cape Town: 30,303
PNL: 28,662
Moscow: 28,011
Seoul: 27,670
New York: 27,261
Dublin: 27,212
Buenos Aires: 25,926
Pacific: 25,596
Tokyo: 24,895
Wellington: 24,252
New Delhi: 21,231
Beijing: 19,565
Meaning only 2 clubs went over, and with delistings and retirements, probably not even then.
The cap has been reduced to a 31,500 maximum cap.
But it isn't just the best teams getting better that is causing unevenness in the competition.
If clubs have less than 24,000 points, they can not do any trade that will reduce there total amount of points.
Trade Period
A lot of thought, and mostly the same as last year where:
It starts the day after the WXV Grand Final finishes.
Each Monday will send out a list of trades to be approved (compulsory vote).
BOTH coaches have to confirm the trade in this thread before it goes to vote.
6 negative votes stops the trade
As Admin, and with no team to bias my decisions, I also have a vote and that vote is worth 3. I.e. if 4 coaches vote against a trade, and I also vote against it, that is a total of 7 votes against and the trade fails. Also have the power to do it the other way (if 8 coaches vote against a trade I think is fair, I vote 'for' it, and total vote is 5, and is approved). I'll only vote for some of them.
Trades do not have to be one-for-one! You can trade 1 player for 3 players, 1 pick for 2 players, any combination!
The draft order is listed below, you can only trade draft picks in the first five rounds and priority picks (to make it a bit simpler, don't want teams through in pick #293 just cos). You can trade in the first 2 rounds of the preseason and rookie drafts if you like.
The three drafts are:
- The International Draft - which includes players not selected last year, pre-signed rookies, delisted WXV players and the AFL national draft
- The Pre-season Draft - for people with any senior spots left over - chose left over's from above, AFL pre-season draft selections and AFL rookie draft
- The Rookie Draft - All remaining AFL listed players, with players drafted here going onto the clubs' rookie list.
At the end of all trading and drafting, each team will have:
- 41 Senior listed players.
- 4 Rookie listed players.
- NO required delistings (obviously can't have more than 41 senior listed players or 4 rookies though). If you want to keep all 41 of your senior players (and none of them retire/delisted by AFL clubs and you are under the cap) that's fine. You just won't get any picks.
- You can choose to upgrade as many rookies to the senior list as you like (again can't go over 41 total senior players). Effectively means you get less picks in the draft.
- You can only rookie a list a player for 2 years before you either have to delist or promote them.
- If you trade a rookie player in, up to you whether you make them a senior listed player or a rookie listed player
So, if after trading/retirements/delistings you have 38 players and 2 rookies = this means you get 3 (38+3=41) picks in the national draft, and 2 (2+2=4) picks in the rookie draft.
If 32 players and 4 rookies, you get 9 National Draft picks (32+9=41) and 0 rookie draft picks.
If you have 44 players and 6 rookies, I'll slap you around the head, and randomly choose which players to delist
So, just because you have 5 picks in the order below, you can't use them if you do have enough spots on the list.
Trades
Green = Approved
Red = Declined
Black = Being voted on
Trade 1
Dublin trade: Jesse Hogan & Sam Docherty
Moscow trade: Michael Walters & Jack Darling
Trade 2
Moscow trade: Shaun Higgins & Pick 53
Mexico City trade: Daniel Currie & Pick 38
Trade 3
Cape Town trade: Colin Sylvia
Wellington trade: Jimmy Toumpas and Patrick Karnezis
Trade 4
Mexico City trade: Mark LeCras
Seoul trade: Chris Yarran
Trade 5
Cairo trade: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 37 and Pick 55
Trade 6
Dublin trade: Jaeger O'Meara and Pick 31
Moscow trade: Nat Fyfe
Trade 7
Cairo trade: Danny Stanley, Matt Jones, Lewis Stevenson and Pick 88
Beijing trade: Sam Kerridge and Pick 23
Trade 8
Berlin trades: Matt Stokes, John Butcher and Jamie Cripps
Cairo trade: Nick Dal Santo and Lindsay Thomas
Trade 9
Cape Town trade: Greg Broughton
Tokyo trade: Lewis Jetta
Trade 10
Cape Town trade: Troy Chaplin and Sam Dwyer
Cairo trade: Jason Johannisen, Michael Evans and Pick 37
Trade 11
Seoul trade: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo trade: Ben McGlynn
Trade 12
Pacific trades: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia and Pick 60
Tokyo trade: Pick 5 and Pick 44
Trade 13
Dublin trade: Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49
New York trade: Grant Birchall and Tom Lee
Trade 14
Cape Town trade: Tom Hawkins
New York trade: Andrew Gaff and Pick 8
Trade 15
Tokyo trade: Pick 26
Berlin trade: Mitch Clisby and Pick 90
Trade 16
Moscow trade: Adam Treloar, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Pick 35, Pick 71
New York trade: Dyson Heppell and Pick 10
Trade 17
Berlin trade: David Swallow, Kane Lucas, Thomas Lynch (GC), Pick 36 and Pick 54
Seoul trade: Josh J Kennedy, Paul Duffield, Hayden Ballantyne and Pick 82
Trade 18:
Beijing trade: Pick 77
Berlin trade: Alipate Carlile
Trade 19:
Dublin trade: Jack Watts, Jack Darling, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill and Lachy Plowman
Cape Town trade: Jobe Watson and Lyndon Dunn
Trade 20:
Cape Town trade: Blayne Wilson and Pick 37
Moscow trade: Dom Tyson
Trade 21:
Cape Town trade: Lee Spurr
Pacific trade: Sam Reid (Swans)
Trade 22:
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 16
Tokyo trade: Chris Judd and Pick 90
Trade 23:
Dublin trade: Zac Clarke, Tom Lee and Pick 67
Moscow trade: Charlie Dixon and Robert Murphy
Trade 24:
New Delhi trade: Jarryd Blair, Terry Milera and Pick 25
Pacific trade: Shane Savage, Zach Williams, Daniel Talia and Pick 42
Trade 25:
Sao Paulo trade: Mitch Duncan and Pick 57
New Delhi trade: Jake Stringer and Ben Jacobs
Trade 26:
Berlin trade: Shane Edwards and Brandon Matera
London trade: Ben Reid and Ricky Petterd
Trade 27:
Pacific trade: Jack Viney, Jackson Paine and Pick 60
Berlin trade: Andy Otten, Lindsay Thomas and Pick 15
Trade 28:
Cairo trade: Shaun Grigg
Dublin trade: Jed Anderson
Trade 29:
Dublin trade: Jack Darling, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill and Lachy Plowman
Cape Town trade: Jobe Watson
Trade 30:
Beijing trade: Harry Taylor, Matt Spangher and Pick 41
Wellington trade: Mitch Golby, Jake Neade, Adam Schneider and Pick 1
Trade 31:
Moscow trade: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town trade: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
Trade 32:
Pacific trade: Tom Nicholls
New York trade: Josh Jenkins and Pick 8
Trade 33:
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson and Pick 60
Toronto trade: Dayne Zorko
Trade 34:
Pacific trade: Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
Dublin trade: Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
Trade 35:
Pacific trade: Tom Nicholls and Pick 25
New York trade: Josh Jenkins and Pick 8
Trade 36:
Pacific trade: Chris Dawes and Matthew Watson
PNL trade: Phil Davis, Pick 63 and Pick 81
Trade 37:
New Delhi trade: Garrick Ibbotson and Pick 42
Tokyo trade: Shaun Hampson, Ben Stratton and Pick 5
Trade 38:
New Delhi trade: Pick 43
London trade: Tom Sheridan
Trade 39:
New Delhi trade: Nick Duigan
Cairo trade: Rohan Bail and Pick 34
Trade 40:
Sao Paulo trade: Seb Tape
Moscow trade: Pick 33
Trade 41:
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
Trade 42:
New York trade: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo trade: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
Trade 43:
Pacific trade: Picks 24 and 81
Sao Paulo trade: Brad Sheppard, Picks 39 and 75
Trade 44:
Seoul trade: James Kelly
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 16
Trade 45:
New York trade: Andrew Gaff, Toby Greene and Pick 29
New Delhi trade: Picks 4, 5 and 63
Trade 46:
New York trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
PNL trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
Trade 47:
Pacific trade: Josh Jenkins, Jon Simpkin and Pick 75
Moscow trade: Kyle Hardingham, Jack Hutchins, Seb Tape, Pick 37 and Pick 53
Trade 48:
Beijing trade: Pick 59
Cairo trade: John Butcher and Jared Petrenko
Trade 49:
Berlin trade: Hayden Ballantyne and Maverick Weller
Seoul trade: Jarryn Geary
Trade 50:
Berlin trade: Ben Reid and Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town trade: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett and pick 69
Trade 51:
New Delhi trade: Rookie draft pick 22
Sao Paulo trade: Andrew Raines and International draft pick 93
Trade 52:
Moscow receive: Nick Vlastuin and Pick 34
Moscow give: Leigh Adams, Pick 14 and Pick 31
Toronto receive: Leigh Adams and Pick 57
Toronto give: Picks 11 and 32
New Delhi receive: Picks 11, 14, 31, 32
New Delhi give: Nick Vlastuin, Picks 34 and 57
Trade 53:
Berlin trade: Preseason Draft Pick 15 and Pick 82
PNL trade: Jordan Lockyer
Trade 54:
Cape Town trade: Jason Johanissen and Pick 51
Pacific trade: Pick 21
Trade 55:
Wellington trade: Liam McBean, Nathan Wright, International Draft Pick 1 and Preseason Draft Pick 1
Seoul trade: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, International Draft Pick 64 and Preseason Draft Pick 7
Trade 56:
Sao Paulo trade: Picks 18 and 81
Mexico City trade: Pick 17
Trade 57:
Dublin trade: Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Clark, Lachie Hunter
Berlin trade: Lance Franklin, Nick Dal Santo, Tom McDonald
Trade 58:
Cairo trade: David Hale
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Carrazzo
Trade 59:
Mexico City trade: Corey Enright
PNL trade: Matthew Pavlich
Draft Order
Round 1
1. Wellington Seoul
2. Beijing
3. Pacific
4. New Delhi New York
5. Tokyo New Delhi New York
6. PNL New York PNL
7. Seoul
8. New York Pacific
9. London
10. Dublin New York Moscow
11. Toronto New Delhi
12. Cape Town
13. Cairo
14. Moscow New Delhi
15. Berlin Pacific
16. Buenos Aires Seoul
17. Mexico City Sao Paulo
18. Sao Paulo Mexico City
Priority Pick
19. Wellington
20. Beijing
21. Pacific Cape Town
Round 2
22. Wellington
23. Beijing Cairo
24. Pacific Sao Paulo
25. New Delhi Pacific New York PNL New York
26. Tokyo Berlin
27. PNL
28. Seoul
29. New York New Delhi
30. London
31. Dublin Moscow New Delhi
32. Toronto New Delhi
33. Cape Town Moscow Sao Paulo
34. Cairo New Delhi Moscow
35. Moscow New York
36. Berlin Seoul
37. Buenos Aires Cairo Cape Town Moscow Pacific
38. Mexico City
39. Sao Paulo Pacific
Round 3
40. Wellington
41. Beijing
42. Pacific New Delhi Tokyo
43. New Delhi London
44. Tokyo
45. PNL
46. Seoul Tokyo
47. New York
48. London
49. Dublin New York
50. Toronto
51. Cape Town Pacific
52. Cairo
53. Moscow Pacific
54. Berlin Seoul
55. Buenos Aires Cairo New York
56. Mexico City
57. Sao Paulo New Delhi Toronto
Round 4
58. Wellington
59. Beijing Cairo
60. Pacific Berlin Toronto
61. New Delhi
62. Tokyo
63. PNL Pacific New York
64. Seoul Wellington
65. New York Cairo
66. London
67. Dublin Moscow
68. Toronto
69. Cape Town Berlin
70. Cairo
71. Moscow New York
72. Berlin
73. Buenos Aires
74. Mexico City
75. Sao Paulo Pacific Moscow
Round 5
76. Wellington
77. Beijing Berlin
78. Pacific Dublin
79. New Delhi
80. Tokyo
81. PNL Pacific Sao Paulo Mexico City
82. Seoul Berlin PNL
83. New York
84. London
85. Dublin
86. Toronto
87. Cape Town
88. Cairo Beijing
89. Moscow
90. Berlin Tokyo
91. Buenos Aires
92. Mexico City
93. Sao Paulo New Delhi
Player Lists
Name, Cap value
Beijing - Master Q/Toga
Total Cap: 20,185
Can not do any trade that reduces cap
Kreuzer Matthew 1387
Taylor Harry 1537
Caddy Josh 717
Rosa Matt 562
Wines Oliver 1320
Stanley Danny 973
Shiels Liam 783
Varcoe Travis 362
Betts Eddie 649
Neale Lachie 363
Yeo Elliot 844
Tarrant Robbie 543
Talia Michael 586
Jones Matt 1228
Stevenson Lewis 492
Petrenko Jared 582
Mayes Sam 929
Glass Darren 1038
Toovey Alan 352
Hooker Cale 1332
Grundy Brodie 145
Kennedy Ben 333
Gumbleton Scott 363
Hunt Josh 596
Thurlow Jackson 265
Broomhead Timothy 0
Clurey Tom 0
Temay Tom 0
Smith Tanner 51
Stewart James 0
O'Brien Tim 0
Ashby Jason 0
Duffy Max 0
Mitchell Kane 501
Carlile Alipate 1012
Butcher John 340
Schade Henry 0
Aish James 0
Lobb Rory 0
Harvey Mitchell 0
Battersby James 0
Naismith Sam 0
Gray Sam 0
Webster Zac 0
Ellis Jarred 0
Berlin - Purple 77
Total Cap: 27,471
Steven Jack 1828
Wells Daniel 1617
Hibberd Michael 1610
Kennedy Josh J 1573
Grimes Jack 847
Jackson Daniel 1480
Zorko Dayne 1394
Conca Reece 824
Trengove Jack 1140
Crouch Brad 825
Duffield Paul 1172
Garland Colin 1250
Garlett Jeff 1421
Gawn Max 859
Geary Jarryn 1153
Jetta Lewis 618
Viney Jack 618
Spencer Jake 207
Petterd Ricky 586
Fitzpatrick Jack 504
Jamar Mark 702
Grimes Dylan 247
King Jake 958
Saunders Josh 319
McDonough Matthew 0
Paine Jackson 0
Aylett Kurt 0
Atkins Rory 0
Cameron Clay 0
Lockyer Jordan 0
Honeychurch Mitch 0
Marsh Jonathon 0
Thompson Luke 0
Tutt Jason 410
Main Dylan 0
Wilkins Mitchell 0
Brennan Jacob 467
Wilson Nathan 44
Minchington Darren 0
Brown Nathan 811
Georgiou Alexis 0
Wearden Patrick 0
Fyfe Nat 1587
Clark Mitch 231
Hunter Lachie 169
Buenos Aires - Nails
Total Cap: 27,788
Swan Dane 1979
Cox Dean 1792
Boyd Matthew 856
Johnson Steve 1293
Scotland Heath 1149
Barlow Michael 1778
Petrie Drew 1750
Chapman Paul 400
Harvey Brent 1249
Thompson Scott D 1730
Cornes Kane 1715
Cross Daniel 801
Gilbert Sam 446
Burgoyne Shaun 1285
Warnock Robbie 530
Kelly James 1101
Schulz Jay 1411
Newman Chris 1217
Redden Jarrad 402
Stewart Paul 547
Sewell Brad 1034
Logan Tom 373
Dea Matt 141
Lyons Jarryd 575
Close Michael 0
Michael Sam 57
Redpath Jack 0
Ramsay Jackson 0
Bradley Kepler 274
McKenzie Jordie 479
Simon Gideon 0
Jong Lin 0
Schulz Sam 0
Byrne-Jones Darcy 0
Banfield Todd 0
Aliir Alirr 0
Freeman Jonathan 0
Wood Easton -4
Harmes James 0
Bourke Nick 0
Tunbridge Simon 3
Osborn Jack 0
Vandeleur Thomas 0
Astbury David 66
Hale David 1359
Cairo - MajorLazer/NigeyS
Total Cap: 26,079
Carrazzo Andrew 661
Beams Dayne 452
Hanley Pearce 1563
Prestia Dion 1470
Douglas Richard 1757
Hutchings Mark 809
Malceski Nick 1581
Goodes Brett 1125
Breust Luke 1360
Puopolo Paul 1140
Pearce Clancee 1353
Mumford Shane 1284
Knights Chris 353
Giles Jonathan 1311
Smith Brodie 964
Dickson Tory 549
MacKenzie Eric 1067
Chaplin Troy 1039
Johnston Lewis 94
Crowley Ryan 926
Rischitelli Michael 585
Polkinghorne James 629
Laidler Jeremy 30
Dwyer Sam 1121
Cripps Jamie 537
Kerridge Sam 509
Woodward Alex 0
Rowe Sam 496
Stephenson Orren 368
Bews Jed 0
Hartman Bradley 0
Hartigan Kyle 56
Dunston Luke 0
Impey Jarman 0
Clarke Justin 674
Gordon Nathan 0
Amon Karl 0
Tape Sebastian 216
Karpany Malcolm 0
McGovern Jeremy 0
Cameron Charlie 0
Bourke Jordan 0
Marsh Harrison 0
Willsmore Dallas 0
Williams Cadeyn 0
Cape Town - My Chumps
Total Cap: 26,321
Cotchin Trent 1807
Kennedy Josh P 1793
Thomas Dale 396
Cameron Jeremy 1237
Darling Jack 1329
O'Keefe Ryan 1849
Cooney Adam 1442
Higgins Shaun 177
Hawkins Tom 1150
Tyson Dom 52
Toumpas Jimmy 423
Vardy Nathan 309
Smith Zac 614
Bird Craig 1062
O'Shea Cameron 1282
Reid Ben 1335
Pittard Jasper 675
Guthrie Cameron 722
Bock Nathan 71
Rohan Gary 0
Plowman Lachlan 225
Hill Bradley 966
Lamb Jed 444
Curnow Edward 1072
Reid Sam B 582
Sexton Alex 125
Karnezis Patrick 142
Johnson Alex 0
Smedts Billie 701
Haynes Nick 536
Everitt Andrejs 854
Cowan Josh 0
Gwilt James 787
Kent Dean 341
Schroder Jordan 190
Evans Michael 577
Martin Stef 188
Heath Campbell 531
Hunt Karmichael 335
Crouch Matt 0
Dumont Trent 0
Bennell Jamie 0
Pierce Lewis 0
Dick Matthew 0
Yagmoor Peter 0
Dublin - Holzman
Total Cap: 29,537
Franklin Lance 1346
Dal Santo Nick 1642
McDonald Tom 910
Selwood Joel 1908
Rockliff Tom 1723
Watson Jobe 1535
Boak Travis 1790
Mundy David 1653
Goldstein Todd 1909
Birchall Grant 976
Rance Alex 1504
Walters Michael 1219
Murphy Robert 1394
Dixon Charlie 883
Gray Robbie 1067
Watts Jack 945
Hansen Lachlan 1030
Grigg Shaun 1362
Schoenmakers Ryan 249
Harper Kieran 117
Green Joshua 686
Markworth Daniel 0
Delaney Luke 61
Delaney Cameron 90
Bootsma Joshua 255
van Berlo Nathan 990
Boston Andrew 110
Walker Josh 0
Stringer Jesse 267
Frost Sam 91
Martin Brodie 65
Murphy Thomas 863
Bruce Josh 488
Taberner Matthew 40
Heatherley Kurt 0
Holman Nick 0
Hewett George 0
Hunt Jayden 0
Byrne Ciaran 0
Holmes Jason 0
Sheehan Ciaran 0
Warren Max 0
Simpkin Tom 196
Tatupu Shem-Kalvin 0
Jetta Neville 173
London - Ringo
Total Cap: 30,926
Stanton Brent 1532
McVeigh Jarrad 1792
Hannebery Dan 1733
Pearce Danyle 1366
Broadbent Matthew 1260
Bellchambers Tom 1313
Mayne Chris 1536
Reilly Brent 941
Mackie Andrew 1434
Matera Brandon 595
Edwards Shane 1362
Brown Jonathan 881
Wright Sam 584
Mackay David 1041
Staker Brent 805
Lumumba Heritier 1245
Hill Josh 1172
Lynch Quentin 964
Warnock Matthew 219
Lonergan Tom 785
Moore Andrew 624
Tuohy Zach 1134
Gilham Stephen 865
Hudson Ben 593
Young Thomas 764
Winderlich Jason 819
Brown Mitchell J 612
Laird Rory 905
Gorringe Daniel 288
Menzel Troy 68
Daniher Joe 72
Towers Dean 0
Cachia Jaryd 714
Darrou Ben 0
Dalgleish Lachlan 0
Rampe Dane 908
Lennon Ben 0
Hartung Billy 0
Gardiner Darcy 0
McStay Daniel 0
Thurlow Fraser 0
Brand Kaiden 0
Gregory Sean 0
Smith Archie 0
Luxford Michael 0
Mexico City - Maca24
Total Cap: 31,227
Goddard Brendon 1714
Maric Ivan 1331
Sandilands Aaron 277
Sidebottom Steele 1801
Bartel Jimmy 1683
Riewoldt Nick 1642
Hurn Shannon 1042
Ebert Bradley 1619
Lewis Jordan 1600
Thompson Scott 1595
Hodge Luke 1537
Crameri Stewart 885
Adcock Jed 1524
Enright Corey 1508
Goodes Adam 948
Waite Jarrad 551
Moloney Brent 1114
Merrett Daniel 922
Lake Brian 1035
Vince Bernie 1326
Membrey Tim 0
Hrovat Nathan 417
Firrito Michael 831
Baguley Mark 1051
Currie Daniel 0
Prudden Joshua 0
Addison Dylan 509
Pearce Daniel 0
Strauss James 178
Carter Adam 174
McGennis Tim 0
Yarran Chris 977
Curren Tom 124
Jack Brandon 292
Blicavs Mark 938
Acres Blake 0
Cutler Tom 0
Barrett Jake 0
Lemmens Sean 0
Biggs Shane 0
Hitchcock Cameron 82
Grey Brady 0
Robinson Daniel 0
Ah Chee Brendon 0
Siggins Sam 0
Moscow - Jukes/Torpedo10
Total Cap: 26,029
Hogan Jesse 0
Griffen Ryan 1811
Naitanui Nic 944
Martin Dustin 1784
O'Meara Jaeger 1522
Heppell Dyson 1516
Clarke Zachary 865
Ward Callan 1690
Shaw Heath 1390
Seedsman Paul 987
Monfries Angus 1525
Thomas Josh 916
Dunn Lynden 978
Vlastuin Nick 958
Docherty Sam 419
Vickery Tyrone 1120
Simpkin Jonathan 743
Frawley James 1037
Jenkins Josh 1094
Hombsch Jack 317
Lee Tom 443
Ceglar Jonathon 94
Wilson Blayne 241
Burbury George 114
Allen Jackson 44
Fletcher Dustin 804
May Steven 793
Colquhoun Sam 221
Gault Corey 0
Clarke Martin 603
Mooney Caolan 66
Williams Tom 88
Menegola Sam 0
Sinclair Callum 323
McInnes Fraser 0
Sheed Dominic 0
Fuller Matthew 0
Barrass Tom 0
Pearce Alex 0
Ellard David 85
Tapscott Luke 494
Wallace Eric 0
Osborne Leigh 0
Rayner Johnny 0
Steinberg Ariel 0
New Delhi - elephants/Ricochet
Total Cap: 22,795
Can not do any trade that reduces cap
Montagna Leigh 1739
Wellingham Sharrod 432
Bastinac Ryan 1543
Duncan Mitch 1429
Gaff Andrew 1213
Mullett Aaron 1378
Greene Toby 974
Savage Shane 644
Williams Zachary 364
Murdoch Jordan 429
White Matthew 607
Giansiracusa Daniel 1104
Podsiadly James 1195
Hampson Shaun 413
Melksham Jake 1152
Michie Viv 40
Horlin-Smith George 489
Dunell Sam 133
Sheridan Thomas 209
Bail Rohan 345
Ellis-Yolmen Cameron 0
Buckley Dylan 31
Raines Andrew 627
Renouf Brent 214
Palmer Rhys 729
Dell'Olio Cory 216
Stratton Ben 1135
Cassisi Domenic 388
Talia Daniel 974
Cheney Kyle 204
Roberts-Thomson Lewis 185
Rutten Ben 997
Edwards Shaun 35
Langford Will 14
Dawson Zac 766
Nankervis Toby 0
Garlett Dayle 0
Robertson Nicholas 0
Webster Jimmy 431
Knight Riley 0
Giles Cameron 0
McCarthy Lincoln 0
Helbig Bradley 17
Kelly Jordan 0
Ross Ben 0
New York - pyronerd
Total Cap: 26,023
Liberatore Tom 1778
Cloke Travis 1525
Armitage David 1507
Dempsey Courtney 1094
Stokes Matthew 1498
Pyke Mike 1472
Treloar Adam 1409
Gibson Josh 1259
McKenzie Trent 1226
Atley Shaun 1248
Christensen Allen 1175
Fisher Sam 718
Bennell Harley 957
Black Aaron 1021
Stevens Koby 1111
Nicholls Tom 657
Schofield Will 856
Kommer Nicholas 783
Sinclair Ben 693
Siposs Arryn 454
Batchelor Jake 526
Macrae Jackson 710
McKernan Shaun 513
Crozier Hayden 450
Lycett Scott 196
Arnot Matthew 211
Brown Mitchell W 241
Hoskin-Elliott Will 380
McGinnity Patrick 139
Moller Craig 0
Griffiths Ben 61
Anderson Jed 155
Menzel Daniel 0
Morabito Anthony 0
Young Aaron 0
Elton Todd 0
Colledge Brant 0
Kolodjashnij Kade 0
McDonald Luke 0
Lang Darcy 0
Apeness Michael 0
Russell Sam 0
Powell Rohan 0
Mitchell Patrick 0
Greenwood Alex 0
Pacific - Jayman/tbagrocks
Total Cap: 27,286
Leuenberger Matthew 1488
Redden Jack 1712
Thomas Lindsay 1146
Terlich Dean 1165
Spurr Lee 1169
Blair Jarryd 1282
Hurley Michael 928
Howe Jeremy 1295
Mitchell Tom 765
Howlett Ben 1097
de Boer Matthew 1241
Otten Andy 1208
Mohr Tim 1193
Elliott Jamie 1090
Grigg Mitchell 125
Martin Jack 0
Johannisen Jason 764
Hampton Curtly 812
Bugg Tomas 639
Day Sam 979
Blease Sam 271
Witts Jarrod 448
Beams Claye 80
Davis Phil 523
Longer Billy 207
Tomlinson Adam 792
Gibson Sam 1270
Cunningham Harry 21
Brown Luke 944
Sheppard Bradley 504
Milera Terry 417
Hutchins Jack 363
Hardingham Kyle 239
Stanley Rhys 978
Scharenberg Matthew 0
Bontempelli Marcus 0
McCarthy Cameron 0
Kolodjashnij Jake 0
Wood Cameron 0
Conway Isaac 0
Spina Alex 0
Frost Jack 111
Oxley Adam 20
Tippett Joel 0
Wood Michael 0
PNL - Hellopplz
Total Cap: 28,313
Priddis Matt 1565
Wingard Chad 1723
Rich Daniel 911
Simpson Kade 1582
Westhoff Justin 1552
Rioli Cyril 896
Jones Nathan 1524
Harbrow Jarrod 1455
Lobbe Matthew 1062
Ball Luke 887
Williams Marley 726
Pavlich Matthew 399
Shiel Dylan 1286
Griffin Jonathon 631
Grant Jarrad 319
Myers David 1269
Lynch Tom T 1115
Ray Farren 984
McPharlin Luke 874
Smith Clay 840
Casboult Levi 309
Patton Jonathon 168
Jones Liam 834
Goldsack Tyson 571
Dawes Chris 560
Trengove Jackson 602
Kavanagh Elliott 102
Watson Matthew 265
McInnes Andrew 184
McKenzie Brad 270
Hallahan Mitch 0
Grundy Heath 1126
Thomas Matt 205
Howard Christian 55
Dennis-Lane Trent 393
Cordy Ayce 219
Corr Aidan 357
Billings Jack 0
Merrett Zachary 0
Jaensch Matthew 484
Reynolds Luke 0
Richards Xavier 9
O'Brien Zac 0
Shenton Cameron 0
Graham Angus 0
Sao Paulo - CrowsFan
Total Cap: 29,883
Ablett Gary jnr 2141
Sloane Rory 1627
Minson Will 1894
Walker Andrew 1821
Masten Chris 1455
Roughead Jarryd 1623
Hartlett Hamish 1560
Houli Bachar 1369
Hill Stephen 1078
Waters Beau 513
Gunston Jack 1237
Zaharakis David 1388
Roberton Dylan 1237
Harwood Ryan 541
Jacobs Sam 1397
Adams Taylor 890
Smith Devon 1134
Martin Kyle 228
Buntine Matthew 98
Wallis Mitch 973
McMahon Scott 767
Wright Matthew 1062
Stringer Jake 409
White Simon 527
Daw Majak 311
Jacobs Ben 135
Whitecross Brendan 337
Sumner Liam 242
Porplyzia Jason 858
Armstrong Tony 319
Silvagni Alex 329
Polec Jared 32
O'Rourke Jonathan 14
Kersten Shane 0
Wood Mason 0
Lowden Luke 0
O'Hanlon Brett 0
Riley Aiden 63
Freeman Nathan 0
Jones Zak 0
Paparone Marco 166
Newton Ben 0
Kelly Jake 0
Hall Josh 108
Johnson Blaine 0
Seoul - JBs-Hawks
Total Cap: 23,073
Can not do any trade that reduces cap
Dangerfield Patrick 1675
Gibbs Bryce 1289
McEvoy Ben 1710
Ellis Brandon 1154
LeCras Mark 1085
Scully Tom 1160
Lucas Kane 1142
Swallow David 1146
Macaffer Brent 1020
Coniglio Stephen 961
Ballantyne Hayden 987
Roughead Jordan 1045
McGlynn Ben 1047
Hocking Heath 832
Lynch Tom J 518
Russell Luke 802
Newnes Jack 825
Maxwell Nick 894
Hunt Taylor 701
Sutcliffe Cameron 577
Wright Nathan 386
Keeffe Lachlan 232
Darley Sam 212
Anthony Liam 168
Weller Maverick 140
Barry Dominic 0
White Spencer 0
McBean Liam 0
McIntosh Kamdyn 0
Newman Murray 0
Roberts Fletcher 0
Lloyd Jake 0
Hamling Joel 0
Grimley Sam 149
Boyd Thomas 0
Kelly Joshua 0
Salem Christian 0
Duryea Taylor 847
Jansen Jarrad 0
Langdon Tom 0
Templeton Eli 0
Wanganeen Derick 0
Maister Beau 369
Ballard Jacob 0
Bates Zachary 0
Tokyo - Boomz/kilbluff1985
Total Cap: 24,783
Jack Kieran 1940
Mitchell Sam 1712
Selwood Scott 1319
Shuey Luke 1128
Judd Chris 1567
Parker Luke 1552
Tippett Kurt 556
Dahlhaus Luke 1303
Motlop Steven 1336
Henderson Ricky 1084
Simpson Dawson 469
West Trent 779
Carlisle Jake 1280
Suckling Matt 0
Ibbotson Garrick 1131
Broughton Greg 1023
Clisby Mitchell 403
Rivers Jared 135
Fasolo Alex 132
Suban Nick 1088
Richards Ted 1125
Pears Tayte 438
Kennedy Adam 779
Browne Alex 0
Golds Tim 40
O'Brien Nicholas 92
Lonergan Jesse 220
Phillips Andrew 0
Smith Ashley 462
Townsend Jacob 254
Campbell Tom 95
Ross Sebastian 453
Van Unen Dylan 0
Hams William 17
Simpson Josh 0
Murdoch Brodie 192
Merrett Jackson 508
Sheringham Jackson 0
Miles Anthony 171
Perris Lloyd 0
Lloyd Sam 0
Gleeson Martin 0
Derickx Tom 0
Ambrose Patrick 0
Flynn Daniel 0
Toronto - roo boys!
Total cap: 31,220
Pendlebury Scott 2110
Swallow Andrew 1604
Ryder Paddy 1170
Ziebell Jack 1395
Henderson Lachlan 1553
Adams Leigh 1380
Robinson Mitch 1191
Riewoldt Jack 1442
Johnson Michael 1470
Cunnington Ben 1516
Hickey Tom 473
Pedersen Cameron 546
Nicholson Daniel 610
Butler Sam 764
McLean Brock 1466
Grima Nathan 1092
Greenwood Levi 262
Shaw Matt 1237
Young Clinton 113
Jones Clinton 1161
Hall Aaron 1033
MacMillan Jaime 1172
Edwards Aaron 338
Morris Steven 732
Maguire Matt 556
Bell Tom 238
McGrath Ashley 717
Jamison Michael 1120
Walsh Tommy 32
Hine Taylor 461
White Jesse 486
Shaw Mason 0
Hayes Nick 0
Jonas Thomas 851
Whiley Mark 137
Spangher Matt 84
Lisle Jordan 398
Leslie Jack 0
Brown Ben 0
Shaw Rhyce 194
Maginness Will 0
Curran Tom 0
Litherland Angus 0
Turner Kayne 0
Austin Mark 116
Wellington - pothead
Wellington: 24,764
Murphy Marc 1496
Deledio Brett 1755
Smith Isaac 1408
Walker Taylor 347
Whitfield Lachie 1108
Sylvia Colin 1177
Hayes Lenny 1016
McIntosh Hamish 0
Foley Nathan 801
Golby Mitch 1049
Mzungu Tendai 1363
Dempster Sean 938
Patfull Joel 1226
Morris Dale 1114
Thompson Rory 1097
Lester Ryan 854
Shaw Sam 0
Smith Nick 1188
Graham Nicholas 0
Bewick Rohan 1069
McGuane Luke 617
Byrnes Shannon 801
Neade Jake 673
Ellis Xavier 24
Hannath Jack 423
Colyer Travis 423
Armfield Dennis 1029
Garner Taylor 0
Sumner Tim 241
Jaksch Kristian 0
Picken Liam 883
Jetta Leroy 303
Nahas Robin 207
Crisp Jack 88
Downie Tom 0
Cripps Patrick 0
Taylor Lewis 0
Kennedy-Harris Jay 0
Fantasia Orazio 0
Sicily James 0
Herbert Louis 0
King Max 0
Toohey James 0
Schneider Adam 46
Taylor Jeremy 0
Gee I'm excited for this!
I would say im easily the most active leading up to the trade period soo far. I have a crazy ammount of trades lined up.
I think a few guys can vouch for me on that one.
Two questions:
a) regarding 41 senior players and 4 rookie listed players, can we upgrade/demote players freely till the beginning of the season?
b) As we are below the points cap, do we have to finish with more points overall, or does each trade need to gain us points? That'll make trading for picks very hard if that's the case.
I'm keen, my favourite part of this whole thing is beginning, love the off-season. ;D 8)
EDIT: I assume a delistments trade will be made (or is there one already that I missed or don't know about)?
My goal, to strengthen my team short term without compromising the long term.
Also known as sustainability :P
Generally the goal of all teams maca, but also the hardest to achieve ;)
Yeah just regarding Q's second question, just want to clear that up. So we aren't able to do a trade like (for instance):
Beijing gives: Neville Jetta
Someone gives: Draft Pick X
Would be great to clear that up, thanks Oz. :)
Quote from: Master Q on August 28, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Two questions:
a) regarding 41 senior players and 4 rookie listed players, can we upgrade/demote players freely till the beginning of the season?
b) As we are below the points cap, do we have to finish with more points overall, or does each trade need to gain us points? That'll make trading for picks very hard if that's the case.
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
Quote from: ossie85 on August 28, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 28, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Two questions:
a) regarding 41 senior players and 4 rookie listed players, can we upgrade/demote players freely till the beginning of the season?
b) As we are below the points cap, do we have to finish with more points overall, or does each trade need to gain us points? That'll make trading for picks very hard if that's the case.
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
So we can't trade for Picks?!?
Quote from: Master Q on August 28, 2013, 09:44:54 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 28, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on August 28, 2013, 07:11:05 PM
Two questions:
a) regarding 41 senior players and 4 rookie listed players, can we upgrade/demote players freely till the beginning of the season?
b) As we are below the points cap, do we have to finish with more points overall, or does each trade need to gain us points? That'll make trading for picks very hard if that's the case.
Beijing have 3 of the top 22 picks, great young talent but a terrible list. Picks shouldn't be a priority. Beijing aren't competitive, and I don't want teams sacrificing there present for the future so much so that they can't field a xv. Which is what happened a few times to Beijing this year
Put you can trade for picks, as long as your points don't go down in any trade
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
So we can't trade for Picks?!?
Was very active in negotiating trades but Boomz not replied to any Facebook messages since the 17th :'(
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 28, 2013, 09:55:03 PM
Was very active in negotiating trades but Boomz not replied to any Facebook messages since the 17th :'(
He is on holiday right now KB, not sure if he will get on FF anytime soon, waiting for him on TX too. :-\
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 28, 2013, 09:55:03 PM
Was very active in negotiating trades but Boomz not replied to any Facebook messages since the 17th :'(
Pretty sure that'd be because he's on holiday iirc.
Oh he could have told me lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 28, 2013, 09:58:54 PM
Oh he could have told me lol
Quick kb trade while your the only coach around.
I got another trade I'd do to get a ruck before the Clarke one mate lol
Btw all --> you can officially delist players now. But if you do, you can't trade them, they are gone. This is only to help reduce your cap if needed.
You'd also have to officially delist retired players, as on occasion those players 'retire' and then come back again
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Btw all --> you can officially delist players now. But if you do, you can't trade them, they are gone. This is only to help reduce your cap if needed.
You'd also have to officially delist retired players, as on occasion those players 'retire' and then come back again
And we post those delistings here?
Quote from: NigeyS on August 29, 2013, 04:01:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Btw all --> you can officially delist players now. But if you do, you can't trade them, they are gone. This is only to help reduce your cap if needed.
You'd also have to officially delist retired players, as on occasion those players 'retire' and then come back again
And we post those delistings here?
I would post them in the retirements and delistings thread ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on August 29, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 29, 2013, 04:01:37 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 29, 2013, 03:51:36 PM
Btw all --> you can officially delist players now. But if you do, you can't trade them, they are gone. This is only to help reduce your cap if needed.
You'd also have to officially delist retired players, as on occasion those players 'retire' and then come back again
And we post those delistings here?
I would post them in the retirements and delistings thread ;)
Hmm, yeah... So would I. :-[ ::)
Pacific are keen to get involved! A big name ruckman could leave the Islanders :o
At this stage we want to help rebuild what youth is there! Picks and kids for us, older if it helps our team!
Well reply to your PM's ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on August 28, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
Just to clarify oz, so what you're saying is that I can't say, demote Sam Lonergan to my rookie list before list lodgements?
Or is it the same as last year where you could demote players after the international draft but before the PSD/Rookie Drafts?
And since I am over the cap, I cannot complete a trade which would increase my cap, even if I make sure I am under it before the drafts?
I.e. if I trade 2 draft picks for a player, which would increase my cap, I can't do delistments after the trade to get back under the cap?
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 31, 2013, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 28, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
Just to clarify oz, so what you're saying is that I can't say, demote Sam Lonergan to my rookie list before list lodgements?
Or is it the same as last year where you could demote players after the international draft but before the PSD/Rookie Drafts?
And since I am over the cap, I cannot complete a trade which would increase my cap, even if I make sure I am under it before the drafts?
I.e. if I trade 2 draft picks for a player, which would increase my cap, I can't do delistments after the trade to get back under the cap?
Yeah, the only way to get on the rookie list is through the rookie draft. Only did it the other way the first time cos we were creating the rookie list for the first time.
No, you can trade to go over the cap. The difference is that it is easy to reduce your cap, but can be hard to increase your cap.
Quote from: ossie85 on August 31, 2013, 10:44:16 AM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 31, 2013, 10:29:42 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on August 28, 2013, 09:03:54 PM
a) upgrading can de done before list lodgements, you won't be able to demote
B) you can't lose points in a trade if under 24000.
Just to clarify oz, so what you're saying is that I can't say, demote Sam Lonergan to my rookie list before list lodgements?
Or is it the same as last year where you could demote players after the international draft but before the PSD/Rookie Drafts?
And since I am over the cap, I cannot complete a trade which would increase my cap, even if I make sure I am under it before the drafts?
I.e. if I trade 2 draft picks for a player, which would increase my cap, I can't do delistments after the trade to get back under the cap?
Yeah, the only way to get on the rookie list is through the rookie draft. Only did it the other way the first time cos we were creating the rookie list for the first time.
No, you can trade to go over the cap. The difference is that it is easy to reduce your cap, but can be hard to increase your cap.
Ah ok, cheers oz :)
if Mitchell gets DPP will be huge bonus for Tokyo
He wont
Looking to straight swap Pick 23 for a player.
PM me if you're interested.
Sorry guys but Leuey and Longer are off the trade table. Looking to offload Nicholls and Witts though - please chuck us your best offer and let's get a deal done.
Chris Dawes, Sam Reid (Sydney) and Sam Gibson are all up for trade and will come cheap if you're interested. Have some gun young mids (check our list) that MAY be up for sale if we get a big offer, the likes of Howlett, Titchell, Martin, Viney etc. ideally don't want to move but if we can get a high pick and/or good young backs/fwds, it might be your lucky day ;)
Don't hesitate, chuck us a pm and let's get talking :)
Quote from: Maca24 on August 31, 2013, 04:37:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 31, 2013, 11:22:53 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on August 31, 2013, 11:00:36 AM
He wont
Many people think otherwise
Hodge will, Mitchell is no chance.
Mitchell has played back quite a bit so think he's a chance. Also think Kade Simpson will get Back status next season :P.
So now that Trade period is just about open will announce again Tokyo is after a premo ruck we have pick 5 to trade with and some good young forwards
And Boomz is back from holiday I think or he sent me a message today anyway so if you have a ruck your willing to trade let me know
Dublin Destroyers trade: Jesse Hogan + Sam Docherty
Moscow Spetnaz trade: Michael Walters + Jack darling.
Hogan looked afl ready earlier in the year in the nab and has been killing the vfl. Amazingly I think he will be the number 1 target at the Dees next year. Docherty was being held back by Voss and showed it with 2 big scores. While I think long term the two players I'm giving up will be be better. I'm going for the flag and Walters looks a solid high 80s player. He won't be a premo but more than handy. Darling has shown promise and is a decent bench player, bit up and down but I hope he can pump out a 80 average season next year.
Quote from: Holzman on September 02, 2013, 12:07:29 AM
Dublin Destroyers trade: Jesse Hogan + Sam Docherty
Moscow Spetnaz trade: Michael Walters + Jack darling.
Confirmed
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Bet you making meow proud ::)
I thought there was a rule saying Higgins wasn't allowed to leave Moscow?
I would have given more for Higgins
Hard to see Currie as "worth it" seeing as he's yet to play a game...
Quote from: Nails on September 02, 2013, 12:50:18 AM
I would have given more for Higgins
People rush in to trades way too quickly without seeing what others are willing to offer for them.
so are people meant to pm every other coach and ask what will you give me?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 01:08:16 AM
so are people meant to pm every other coach and ask what will you give me?
No, you post which player is being sought after (dont say what's offered) and see what is available
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Confirmed.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2013, 06:49:43 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 01:08:16 AM
so are people meant to pm every other coach and ask what will you give me?
No, you post which player is being sought after (dont say what's offered) and see what is available
Posting posting pick 5 is available hasn't helped us much yet
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 09:32:57 AM
Posting posting pick 5 is available hasn't helped us much yet
You posted it just over 12 hours ago, at least half the coaches here probably haven't seen the post or considered trading yet (or list management even). This trade period will be open for a while, no need to lock away trades (like Jukes has done) before the trade period has barely even opened. :P
Been posting for a while now its available not just last night but point taken
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 09:58:33 AM
Been posting for a while now its available not just last night but point taken
Quote from: NigeyS on September 02, 2013, 09:54:26 AM
at least half the coaches here probably haven't seen the post or considered trading yet (or list management even).
;) At least you got the point haha.
Gotta get shower done fast! Forge a new club image!
Griff is on the table if I could get a good back and a good midfielder/forward (one of the two- not dpp players) in return.
Just saying again, these players up up for grabs if you give us a reasonable offer in return! PM Master Q or myself with enquiries!
Harry Taylor, Brent Guerra, Kane Mitchell, Travis Varcoe, Sam Kerridge, Scott Gumbleton, Liam Shiels.
There's also a bunch of other players that can be moved on, see them here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,81342.msg1185585.html#msg1185585).
JOM will get traded soon so if you want him PM me and we will talk.
113 on the weekend for his 8th 100+ score of the year.
Quote from: Toga on September 02, 2013, 10:21:55 AM
Just saying again, these players up up for grabs if you give us a reasonable offer in return! PM Master Q or myself with enquiries!
Harry Taylor, Brent Guerra, Kane Mitchell, Travis Varcoe, Sam Kerridge, Scott Gumbleton, Liam Shiels.
There's also a bunch of other players that can be moved on, see them here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,81342.msg1185585.html#msg1185585).
we were still waiting for you to reply to our pm i believe :P
@Holz bag of twisties get it done?...LOL...jokes
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: Toga on September 02, 2013, 10:21:55 AM
Just saying again, these players up up for grabs if you give us a reasonable offer in return! PM Master Q or myself with enquiries!
Harry Taylor, Brent Guerra, Kane Mitchell, Travis Varcoe, Sam Kerridge, Scott Gumbleton, Liam Shiels.
There's also a bunch of other players that can be moved on, see them here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,81342.msg1185585.html#msg1185585).
we were still waiting for you to reply to our pm i believe :P
@Holz bag of twisties get it done?...LOL...jokes
if bag of twisties is code, for a bag of your forwards, ill take Pav Rioli and Hoff for him ;)
Quote from: Holzman on September 02, 2013, 11:24:54 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2013, 11:15:13 AM
Quote from: Toga on September 02, 2013, 10:21:55 AM
Just saying again, these players up up for grabs if you give us a reasonable offer in return! PM Master Q or myself with enquiries!
Harry Taylor, Brent Guerra, Kane Mitchell, Travis Varcoe, Sam Kerridge, Scott Gumbleton, Liam Shiels.
There's also a bunch of other players that can be moved on, see them here (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,81342.msg1185585.html#msg1185585).
we were still waiting for you to reply to our pm i believe :P
@Holz bag of twisties get it done?...LOL...jokes
if bag of twisties is code, for a bag of your forwards, ill take Pav Rioli and Hoff for him ;)
LOL good come back touche my friend touche
Quote from: Maca24 on September 02, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Confirmed.
Are we allowed to publicly complain about trades orrrr?
We desire forwards, willing to trade David Armitage for one. Enquire via PM.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 02, 2013, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 02, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Confirmed.
Are we allowed to publicly complain about trades orrrr?
i thought that was the whole point of a yes or no vote and reason why
Might also be worth mentioning that Grigg, Sewell and Newman are all in deals at the moment but if you want one of them, please enquire. Other names available are Lewis Stevenson, Danny Stanley, Lindsay Thomas, Jared Petrenko and Nick Dal Santo among others.
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 02, 2013, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 02, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Confirmed.
Are we allowed to publicly complain about trades orrrr?
i thought that was hte whole point of a yes or no vote and reason why
Well in that case, what a ridiculous trade.
Has Currie even played a game of AFL in his life? And the difference between Maca's second rounder and Moscow's third rounder is minuscule.
Higgins has averaged 89 and averaged 82 two years ago. He's only 25 and forwards are scarce. As for the 'injury prone' argument, before this season he played 19, 18, 16 and 17 games each year. More than enough for your worlds team.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 02, 2013, 04:58:08 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 02, 2013, 04:50:33 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 02, 2013, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 02, 2013, 07:06:00 AM
Quote from: Jukes on September 02, 2013, 12:10:57 AM
Moscow Spetsnaz Trade: Shaun Higgins and Third Round Pick
Mexico City Suns Trade: Daniel Currie and Second Round Pick
Confirmed.
Are we allowed to publicly complain about trades orrrr?
i thought that was hte whole point of a yes or no vote and reason why
Well in that case, what a ridiculous trade.
Has Currie even played a game of AFL in his life? And the difference between Maca's second rounder and Moscow's third rounder is minuscule.
Higgins has averaged 89 and averaged 82 two years ago. He's only 25 and forwards are scarce. As for the 'injury prone' argument, before this season he played 19, 18, 16 and 17 games each year. More than enough for your worlds team.
LOL i was implying that you vent when pm'ing ossie with your no vote in your reason
i tihnk the problem with public venting is it can sway votes etc and of course derail things.....as jukes and maca then have a right to defend why and it goes on and on
Oh, my bad :P
If everyone else thinks we shouldn't openly protest trades then I'll stop, and delete that.
I think you can do whatever you want MC, as long as you don't complain about any trade I make ;)
I'm all for publicly venting and opposing trades. :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2013, 05:37:22 PM
I think you can do whatever you want MC, as long as you don't complain about any trade I make ;)
I can't promise anything :P
Chumps I think that's against the rules, publicly trying to persuade people to vote against it?
Not on.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 02, 2013, 08:29:15 PM
Chumps I think that's against the rules, publicly trying to persuade people to vote against it?
Not on.
Not sure it was persuasion Maca, more so illustrating my opinion. Sorry if I offended.
Pick #24 is up for grabs as well btw - who's interested?
Quote from: Toga on September 02, 2013, 09:20:17 PM
Pick #24 is up for grabs as well btw - who's interested?
Nigel is. :o
anyone interested in Judd?
after one or two depth defender types don't have to be really good just not old and in there teams best 22
or a draft pick
Yeah, let's not complain here, complain to me :)
Alright, sorry Maca and Jukesy!
Anyway, just letting you all know that Jobe Watson is likely to be moving on this off-season. He's been quite the angry little boy at the management for not giving him his weekly injections, so he's decided to pack it in.
If you're interested, send us a PM with your best offer. I warn you there is some very stiff competition however.
(Hopefully those who are currently PMing me don't get offended by this, I'm just trying to get the best deal for my player)
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
(Hopefully those who are currently PMing me don't get offended by this, I'm just trying to get the best deal for my player)
That's what I plan to be doing if I am close to trading away a player. Don't want to miss out on a better deal by trading early ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
(Hopefully those who are currently PMing me don't get offended by this, I'm just trying to get the best deal for my player)
That's what I plan to be doing if I am close to trading away a player. Don't want to miss out on a better deal by trading early ;)
risk is though the good deal you got early may look elsewhere and when you want to do that deal its no longer there.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2013, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
(Hopefully those who are currently PMing me don't get offended by this, I'm just trying to get the best deal for my player)
That's what I plan to be doing if I am close to trading away a player. Don't want to miss out on a better deal by trading early ;)
risk is though the good deal you got early may look elsewhere and when you want to do that deal its no longer there.
Give me 48 hours Holz, that's all I ask! :-*
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 08:17:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2013, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2013, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 06:04:14 PM
(Hopefully those who are currently PMing me don't get offended by this, I'm just trying to get the best deal for my player)
That's what I plan to be doing if I am close to trading away a player. Don't want to miss out on a better deal by trading early ;)
risk is though the good deal you got early may look elsewhere and when you want to do that deal its no longer there.
Give me 48 hours Holz, that's all I ask! :-*
It was a general statement. Reading back on it, it does look like a threat. It's not the intention.
I held out on a deal last year and it ended up costing me.
Nah screw chumps holz, take lids instead. At least asada wony ban him!
JB stop ruining my trades man :P
Cape Town Cobras give: Colin Sylvia
Wellington Warriors give: Jimmy Toumpas, Patrick Karnezis
Pothead to confirm.
Reason (do we have to give one?):
Toumpas is a talent, even though he's been flowering awful this year. Hopefully he can improve. Karny is a talent too. Although starved for opportunity under Voss, hopefully he'll get more for whoever coaches next or if he gets traded.
Ossie, if we do a trade that brings us over the cap, can we start trading freely again?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Cape Town Cobras give: Colin Sylvia
Wellington Warriors give: Jimmy Toumpas, Patrick Karnezis
Pothead to confirm.
Reason (do we have to give one?):
Toumpas is a talent, even though he's been flowering awful this year. Hopefully he can improve. Karny is a talent too. Although starved for opportunity under Voss, hopefully he'll get more for whoever coaches next or if he gets traded.
Decided your window is closed and looking to the future? :P
Quote from: Master Q on September 03, 2013, 09:23:10 PM
Ossie, if we do a trade that brings us over the cap, can we start trading freely again?
Yep, except can't go under 24000
Mexico give: Mark Lecras
Seoul give: Chris Yarran
Reason: want to freshen up my forward line with someone younger.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 04, 2013, 12:02:15 PM
Mexico give: Mark Lecras
Seoul give: Chris Yarran
Reason: want to freshen up my forward line with someone younger.
Nooooooo, I really wanted Lecras.
To go with Darling? ???
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 04, 2013, 12:11:54 PM
To go with Darling? ???
im 50/50 on keeping darling.
Gray Walters Lecras and XXXX
I'm gonna post this both here and in the Discussion Thread for people to have a look at it. It may be edited once ML replies my PM.
Red = Do not even try.
Green = On the table.
Blue = Getting cut from the list (could also be a trade sweetener).
Orange = Would rather keep, but could move on.
Backs:
Nick Malceski
Pearce Hanley
Danny Stanley
Josh Gibson
Jeremy Laidler
Lukas Markovic
Eric Mackenzie
Chris Newman
Jed Bews
Lewis Stevenson
Brett Goodes (B/M)
Sam Siggins
Jason Johannisen
Kyle Hartigan (R)
Harrison Marsh (R)
Mids:
Dayne Beams
Nick Dal Santo
Shaun Grigg
Brad Sewell
Richard Douglas
Clancee Pearce
David Armitage
Alex Woodward
James Polkinghorne
Michael Rischitelli
Ryan Crowley
Michael Evans
Rohan Bail
Matt Jones
Mark Hutchings
Rucks:
Shane Mumford
Sam Rowe
Orren Stephenson
Ben Dowdell (R)
Forwards:
Chris Knights
David Hale (F/R)
Luke Breust
Tory Dickson
Lewis Johnston
Lindsay Thomas
Paul Puopolo
Jared Petrenko
Bradley Hartman
Ashton Hams
Jordon Bourke (R)
We need points so we can go through with a few organised trades, so if anyone wants to cut back or just get rid of some old guys, PM me.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 04, 2013, 12:02:15 PM
Mexico give: Mark Lecras
Seoul give: Chris Yarran
Reason: want to freshen up my forward line with someone younger.
Confirmed
Cairo Gives: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: 2nd Round IDS and 3rd Round IDS
Wow, still going old Nails ;D. I think you need to plan for future some time :P.
Quote from: Nails on September 04, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Cairo Gives: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: 2nd Round IDS and 3rd Round IDS
Confirmed.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 04, 2013, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 04, 2013, 01:29:25 PM
Cairo Gives: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: 2nd Round IDS and 3rd Round IDS
Confirmed.
Hi guys --> because draft picks can vary a bit in rounds, can you please post draft trades as numbers, not rounds?
e.g. The above should read:
Cairo Gives: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: Pick 37 and Pick 55
I was gonna do that, but Nails posted it instead. :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 03, 2013, 10:07:19 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Cape Town Cobras give: Colin Sylvia
Wellington Warriors give: Jimmy Toumpas, Patrick Karnezis
Pothead to confirm.
Reason (do we have to give one?):
Toumpas is a talent, even though he's been flowering awful this year. Hopefully he can improve. Karny is a talent too. Although starved for opportunity under Voss, hopefully he'll get more for whoever coaches next or if he gets traded.
Decided your window is closed and looking to the future? :P
... Maybe :P
Moscow are taking offers, PM Jukes or I.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 04, 2013, 05:13:08 PM
Moscow are taking offers, PM Jukes or I.
Are you planning on starting replying to offers?
Dublin Trades: Jaeger Omeara + 31
Moscow Trades: Nathan Fyfe
very very worried that im trading away Ablett 2.0, JOM is the best player I have seen since Judd and it hirts me to say it but he may be better than Judd. Absolute beast and wouldnt be suprised to see him averaging 120+ in a few years.
However Fyfe has shown years of being a gun, while i dont think he will every be a captain option, if he can average 105-110 for the rest of his career im happy, as I have Jelwood.
Pick 31 is a loss, but I have lots of youth.
sorry Chumps, but being a WA boy I have to go with Fyfer over a Essendon player (Boo Bombers)
Quote from: Holzman on September 04, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Dublin Trades: Jaeger Omeara + 31
Moscow Trades: Nathan Fyfe
Confirmed
Quote from: Jukes on September 04, 2013, 05:44:06 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 04, 2013, 05:42:38 PM
Dublin Trades: Jaeger Omeara + 31
Moscow Trades: Nathan Fyfe
Confirmed
Watch out other Freo players im coming for you.
thats 4 out of 15 starters from Freo now.
If you actually intend on getting Barlow you better offer me something good.
Dillos #1 draft pick (16) could be available. PM me offers kthx.
Cairo gives: Danny Stanley + Matt Jones + Lewis Stevenson + #88
Beijing gives: Sam Kerridge + #23
Giving up a quality young gun and a second rounder for a couple solid rookies and a consistent defender. Also wanted to gain points.
Nigey to confirm
Guess that's a no on Jetta+Fasolo for Stanley then ? Lol
Quote from: Master Q on September 05, 2013, 06:14:13 PM
Cairo gives: Danny Stanley + Matt Jones + Lewis Stevenson + #88
Beijing gives: Sam Kerridge + #23
Giving up a quality young gun and a second rounder for a couple solid rookies and a consistent defender. Also wanted to gain points.
Nigey to confirm
Confirmed.
Very happy with this. We see Kerridge as good youngster to add to our forward line (has DPP too, will lose it eventually) and Pick 24 is a good bonus. We felt Stanley had good currency and would attract a few offers which he did and Jones and Stevenson we're not ever going to get too many games. 8)
We're still looking to possibly trade a pick (probably a 2nd rounder since we now have like three of them iirc) for a forward if anyone is interested. :)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 05, 2013, 06:16:13 PM
Guess that's a no on Jetta+Fasolo for Stanley then ? Lol
I thought I got back to you on that? If I didn't, I apologise. I definitely typed up the message, maybe it didn't send. :-X
Sorry to all those interested in Stanley, we considered this one + what else was being given/received and figured this to be the best offer. :)
Yeah really like our deal guys, shame to see Kerridge go as he will be a gun, but we're pretty stoked to be gaining a gun defender in Stanley, a bloke that looks like a fantasy pig in Jonesy, and a depth player in Stevo.
Not to mention we are closing the gap in our points deficit! This trade has a net value of + 2,184 points for us, taking our cap from 19565 --> 21,749. :)
Quote from: Toga on September 05, 2013, 06:25:29 PM
Yeah really like our deal guys, shame to see Kerridge go as he will be a gun, but we're pretty stoked to be gaining a gun defender in Stanley, a bloke that looks like a fantasy pig in Jonesy, and a depth player in Stevo.
Not to mention we are closing the gap in our points deficit! This trade has a net value of + 2,184 points for us, taking our cap from 19565 --> 21,749. :)
You're welcome. ;)
Haha thanks mate :-*
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Cape Town Cobras give: Colin Sylvia
Wellington Warriors give: Jimmy Toumpas, Patrick Karnezis
Pothead to confirm.
Reason (do we have to give one?):
Toumpas is a talent, even though he's been flowering awful this year. Hopefully he can improve. Karny is a talent too. Although starved for opportunity under Voss, hopefully he'll get more for whoever coaches next or if he gets traded.
confirmed, needed a good solid forward capable of posting good consistent scores each week, and although toumpas does have potential and so does karnezis, to improve immediately i need players that will be already scoring well.
Quote from: pothead on September 05, 2013, 09:09:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2013, 09:15:02 PM
Cape Town Cobras give: Colin Sylvia
Wellington Warriors give: Jimmy Toumpas, Patrick Karnezis
Pothead to confirm.
Reason (do we have to give one?):
Toumpas is a talent, even though he's been flowering awful this year. Hopefully he can improve. Karny is a talent too. Although starved for opportunity under Voss, hopefully he'll get more for whoever coaches next or if he gets traded.
confirmed, needed a good solid forward capable of posting good consistent scores each week, and although toumpas does have potential and so does karnezis, to improve immediately i need players that will be already scoring well.
Nek minnit, Sylvia Mid only :P
We're in pursuit of a young ruck at the moment, if anyone has one to offer, we'd love to talk. :)
Daw for Beams? :)
we have West/Hampson :P :-X
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 05, 2013, 10:26:39 PM
Daw for Beams? :)
Nice try. :P But Daw does interest me...
We have Dawson Simpson and Sam Grimley ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 05, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
We have Dawson Simpson and Sam Grimley ;)
:o Very interested.
Zachary Clarke
Rumours are circling that key Puma forward Jarryd 'Roughy' Roughead is close to leaving the club. Sources say he is sick of spending half his wage on sunscreen and is looking to move on.
Get your offers in quick if you want him ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 06, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
Rumours are circling that key Puma forward Jarryd 'Roughy' Roughead is close to leaving the club. Sources say he is sick of spending half his wage on sunscreen and is looking to move on.
Get your offers in quick if you want him ;)
not much sun in Dublin, he will fit in perfectly.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 06, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
Rumours are circling that key Puma forward Jarryd 'Roughy' Roughead is close to leaving the club. Sources say he is sick of spending half his wage on sunscreen and is looking to move on.
Get your offers in quick if you want him ;)
If he comes to Cairo we can have an all-Hawks forward line. :o ;D
Alrighty, Berlin's first trade!
BERLIN trade: Matthew Stokes, John Butcher and Jamie Cripps
CAIRO trade: Nick Dal Santo and Lindsay Thomas
Reason: Lindsay Thomas, although is in the AA team with a measly average of 70-odd, is a forward that will play for North when fit, he is clearly in the best 22 and he will provide good depth.
Nick Dal Santo I think can jump back into the 100+ bracket, as he will provide Midfield fire power.
I am not a huge fan of either Jamie Cripps or John Butcher, so you could almost say they even out with Thomas, while I have concerns whether Stokes will retain his forward status and I'd thought I'd cash him in just in case he turns out to be a pure mid. Also have doubts that he can back up his fine year for Berlin. Will miss you Matt!
Cape Town trade: Greg Broughton
Tokyo trade: Lewis Jetta
Would like a forward, and a young one at that. Broughton is really, really annoying to coach. Wanted him out of there.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 06, 2013, 06:45:38 PM
Cape Town trade: Greg Broughton
Tokyo trade: Lewis Jetta
Would like a forward, and a young one at that. Broughton is really, really annoying to coach. Wanted him out of there.
Confirmed
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 06, 2013, 06:43:31 PM
Alrighty, Berlin's first trade!
BERLIN trade: Matthew Stokes, John Butcher and Jamie Cripps
CAIRO trade: Nick Dal Santo and Lindsay Thomas
Reason: Lindsay Thomas, although is in the AA team with a measly average of 70-odd, is a forward that will play for North when fit, he is clearly in the best 22 and he will provide good depth.
Nick Dal Santo I think can jump back into the 100+ bracket, as he will provide Midfield fire power.
I am not a huge fan of either Jamie Cripps or John Butcher, so you could almost say they even out with Thomas, while I have concerns whether Stokes will retain his forward status and I'd thought I'd cash him in just in case he turns out to be a pure mid. Also have doubts that he can back up his fine year for Berlin. Will miss you Matt!
Confirmed.
Our reasons are this:
Dal Santo's averaged quite well over the years but is aging and dropped below a 100 average for this first time this year, with some of the younger players in our squad getting better, plus draftees to come in, we should be able to fill that void. In regards to Lindsay Thomas, he's caused us a bit of heartache some weeks, plus we have some good young forwards coming through like Lewis Johnston and Luke Breust.
Cripps was on our list in 2012 and got traded, I believe he should be a forward and hope he will become one, but if not, is handy mid depth. John Butcher may not be a starter for us immediately, but adds to the depth in our forward line and should hopefully improve and become a better scorer and maybe crack our best 4 forwards. Stokes is the big one in this deal obviously. I'm remaining hopeful that he will in fact continue to score well and also remain a forward, hopefully gaining DPP instead of losing his F eligibility.
I'll admit, I went all rebel with this one and didn't consult ML before agreeing to it but figured that as co-coach I think I have enough power to pull the trigger on my own. :P
Cape Town Cobras give: Troy Chaplin + Sam Dwyer
Cairo Sands give: Jason Johannisen, Michael Evans + Pick 37
Reason: Evans played a few games for us but got buried in the mid depth we had and wasn't getting games once others moved ahead in the pecking order. Johannisen was looking very promising, and I'm a big fan, but I felt that we needed to throw him in to get the deal done. Pick 37 is one of three 2nd round picks we have and is the one we got from Nails in a deal we've already made.
Troy Chaplin and Sam Dwyer are a bit older, but better scorers and and good depth to our squad as well being good enough to fill the interchange spots (in Dwyer's case anyway) and possibly even the D4 spot (in Chappy's case). I also felt we were getting a bit too hung up on pursuing forwards as well and that we shouldn't be neglecting our backline and midfield which are seemingly getting smaller through trades and the soon-to-be-made delistings.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 06, 2013, 07:01:25 PM
I'll admit, I went all rebel with this one and didn't consult ML before agreeing to it but figured that as co-coach I think I have enough power to pull the trigger on my own. :P
Cape Town Cobras give: Troy Chaplin + Sam Dwyer
Cairo Sands give: Jason Johannisen, Michael Evans + Pick 37
Reason: Evans played a few games for us but got buried in the mid depth we had and wasn't getting games once others moved ahead in the pecking order. Johannisen was looking very promising, and I'm a big fan, but I felt that we needed to throw him in to get the deal done. Pick 37 is one of three 2nd round picks we have and is the one we got from Nails in a deal we've already made.
Troy Chaplin and Sam Dwyer are a bit older, but better scorers and and good depth to our squad as well being good enough to fill the interchange spots (in Dwyer's case anyway) and possibly even the D4 spot (in Chappy's case). I also felt we were getting a bit too hung up on pursuing forwards as well and that we shouldn't be neglecting our backline and midfield which are seemingly getting smaller through trades and the soon-to-be-made delistings.
Confirmed.
Chaplin another player that I'm super p*ssed at for being a spud this season after I traded him in expecting 80+ average. He had to go. Don't p*ss of My Chumps, I'm telling you boys :P
Dwyer leaving is very unfortunate. I like him a lot, but I fell like his max average is mid seventies.
Johannisen (I'm going to have to learn to spell his name off by heart) is a big plus. I really like him. Shouldn't be too starved of gametime at the Bulldogs. Evans is handy, hopefully Roos brings out the best in him. When he plays he scores quite well. Pick is a bonus.
Seoul gives: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo gives: Ben Mcglynn
Think you can send out the trade voting form a few days early Os? I am real keen :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Seoul gives: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo gives: Ben Mcglynn
Confirmed. Needed another ruck and Mcglynn while solid is easily covered.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 06, 2013, 07:07:11 PM
Seoul gives: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo gives: Ben Mcglynn
Confirmed
Hopefully West or Simpson will play each week and Simpson has shown some real talent
With Vardy, Big Dawson and Blitz... even H-Mac, I don't even know whether West would be in Geelong's plans for too much longer. :-X
Quote from: NigeyS on September 06, 2013, 07:24:22 PM
With Vardy, Big Dawson and Blitz... even H-Mac, I don't even know whether West would be in Geelong's plans for too much longer. :-X
Me either hence the urgency to get another ruck in
I love that all I have to do to get under the points cap is delist Andrew Raines! :D
One (perhaps 2 depending on positions we receive) of Christensen, Liberatore, Bennell, Prestia, Greene and Gaff will likely be moving this off-season. PM offers to Pyro & I.
Taking offers for Jonathan Giles, Arryn Siposs, Trent McKenzie, Jackson Macrae (tent.) & Marco Paparone as well.
To anyone interested in Nicholls or Witts. PM me your best offers please as one of them will be moving this off season.
Just catching up on all the trade PM's now, sorry for the late replies. Have been away all week.
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia, pick 60
Tokyo give: Pick 5, pick 44
KB to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia, pick 60
Tokyo give: Pick 5, pick 44
KB to confirm.
Confirmed hopefully we have a playing ruck each week now with Nicholls or Simpson and Talia gives us some depth in defense
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 01:52:00 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 08, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia, pick 60
Tokyo give: Pick 5, pick 44
KB to confirm.
Confirmed hopefully we have a playing ruck each week now with Nicholls or Simpson and Talia gives us some depth in defense
Don't see this trade passing.
One of the best young rucks in the comp is worth more than pick 5 alone imo. No guarantee you'll get a better player with pick 5. Dislike strongly.
That's funny Nails the guys in chat told me he's not worth trading pick 5 for I respect there opinion more then yours has only played half a season and what happens with him when Smith returns is unknown
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
That's funny Nails the guys in chat told me he's not worth trading pick 5 for I respect there opinion more then yours has only played half a season and what happens with him when Smith returns is unknown
and gorringe and dixon pinch hitting
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
That's funny Nails the guys in chat told me he's not worth trading pick 5 for I respect there opinion more then yours has only played half a season and what happens with him when Smith returns is unknown
lol.
You could end up with Mitchell Thorp/Jack Watts/numerousotherspudshere
Quote from: Nails on September 08, 2013, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 08, 2013, 02:01:33 PM
That's funny Nails the guys in chat told me he's not worth trading pick 5 for I respect there opinion more then yours has only played half a season and what happens with him when Smith returns is unknown
lol.
You could end up with Mitchell Thorp/Jack Watts/numerousotherspudshere
Jack Watts isn't a spud, I was pretty close to trading Birchall for him.
I'd be more concerned about drafting Lucas Cook.
Dublin trade: Aaron Black + Shuan Atley + 10 + 49
New York trade: Grant Birchall + Tom Lee
my two north boys are huge loses, both showed massive promise this year and look to take it up another notch next year. Pick 10 would have got a very good player in this draft, last year pick 10 got me Hogan. But im looking for immediate success and Birchall is a long way ahead of atley and black in development they will take a few years to reach premo status.
Tom lee just a little sweetener getting one of my Claremont guys never hurts.
Quote from: Holzman on September 08, 2013, 02:34:22 PM
Dublin trade: Aaron Black + Shuan Atley + 10 + 49
New York trade: Grant Birchall + Tom Lee
my two north boys are huge loses, both showed massive promise this year and look to take it up another notch next year. Pick 10 would have got a very good player in this draft, last year pick 10 got me Hogan. But im looking for immediate success and Birchall is a long way ahead of atley and black in development they will take a few years to reach premo status.
Tom lee just a little sweetener getting one of my Claremont guys never hurts.
Confirmed.
Tom Lee has really, really stupid hair.
And Aaron Black is attractive (not funny looking) so that's a win for us.
Aaron Black is scrumptious
Can't believe you'd betray me and trade away my boy Lee...considering ending my tenure at the Torrents now, this decision has rocked me to the core.
Judd still on the table after a defender or a pick in the late teens or early twenties
Will take a 2nd round pick for Hampson to
Quote from: roo boys! on September 08, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Aaron Black is scrumptious
Can't believe you'd betray me and trade away my boy Lee...considering ending my tenure at the Torrents now, this decision has rocked me to the core.
Dude I think you may have lost touch with the fact we coach different teams in WXV...You can still trade for him. :P
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 08, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Aaron Black is scrumptious
Can't believe you'd betray me and trade away my boy Lee...considering ending my tenure at the Torrents now, this decision has rocked me to the core.
Dude I think you may have lost touch with the fact we coach different teams in WXV...You can still trade for him. :P
LOL
Cape Town give: Tom Hawkins
New York give: Andrew Gaff + pick #8
And another spud is gone!
Haha, seriously though, saying goodbye to Hawkins is hard. I still believe he has the potential to average 100+ in the future but this deal is just too good to refuse.
Gaff has struggled heaps with a tag, but I'm sure he'll learn to shake it soon enough. Pick is important too, hopefully I can get the bloke I'm looking at.
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 02:36:28 PM
And Aaron Black is attractive (not funny looking) so that's a win for us.
Saying Black is attractive.... Can I get Alex drug tested?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 08, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
Cape Town give: Tom Hawkins
New York give: Andrew Gaff + pick #8
And another spud is gone!
Haha, seriously though, saying goodbye to Hawkins is hard. I still believe he has the potential to average 100+ in the future but this deal is just too good to refuse.
Gaff has struggled heaps with a tag, but I'm sure he'll learn to shake it soon enough. Pick is important too, hopefully I can get the bloke I'm looking at.
Wow :o
Quote from: My Chumps on September 08, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
Cape Town give: Tom Hawkins
New York give: Andrew Gaff + pick #8
And another spud is gone!
Haha, seriously though, saying goodbye to Hawkins is hard. I still believe he has the potential to average 100+ in the future but this deal is just too good to refuse.
Gaff has struggled heaps with a tag, but I'm sure he'll learn to shake it soon enough. Pick is important too, hopefully I can get the bloke I'm looking at.
Confirmed.
Gaff will struggle with that tag for his whole career, and because he plays so outside I can never see him going far past 100.
Hawkins will be a career forward, and if he can average 85+ this will be worth it.
Meow is the only coach who knows how to use NAT draft picks properly, and because he isn't a coach any more I'm not too concerned about moving from #8 to #10 in the draft, I'll still get the dude I want.
Quote from: DazBurg on September 08, 2013, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 08, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Aaron Black is scrumptious
Can't believe you'd betray me and trade away my boy Lee...considering ending my tenure at the Torrents now, this decision has rocked me to the core.
Dude I think you may have lost touch with the fact we coach different teams in WXV...You can still trade for him. :P
LOL
You're a lot easier to trade with than Holz :P He might actually rate Lee
Tokyo Give: Pick 26
Berlin Give: Mitch Clisby + Pick 90
Need defenders and Clisby has shown some promise. Happy to give up 26 for him and 90 is just to sweeten it and may come of some use with our first pick looking likely to be quite late.
Quote from: Boomz on September 08, 2013, 03:52:38 PM
Tokyo Give: Pick 26
Berlin Give: Mitch Clisby + Pick 90
Need defenders and Clisby has shown some promise. Happy to give up 26 for him and 90 is just to sweeten it and may come of some use with our first pick looking likely to be quite late.
Confirmed.
I could afford to lose Clisby and Pick 26 is necessary for another trade ;)
Conspiracy alert :P
Lots of trades happening today!
Boomz has been online all weekend so that helps :)
Quote from: My Chumps on September 08, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
Cape Town give: Tom Hawkins
New York give: Andrew Gaff + pick #8
Interesting to say the least...
Quote from: Master Q on September 08, 2013, 04:33:32 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 08, 2013, 03:21:40 PM
Cape Town give: Tom Hawkins
New York give: Andrew Gaff + pick #8
Interesting to say the least...
Ha, I know it's overs for Tom. But overall it's basically
IN: Black, Atley, Hawkins
OUT: Birchall, Lee, Gaff
Birchall is the only one I'm really concerned about losing, Gaff is like our 8th mid anyway.
But Tom not worth Gaff and 8 especially with his back
Considering offers for our first round pick (16)
Inbox us your best offer please.
So Jack Viney is very close to leaving Pacific. If anyone wants him please make sure you message us your best offer. At the moment we have a mid 20s pick, a 75avg young back and also a young fwd with high potential. If you have a feeling you can beat that offer, please PM us :)
Receiving lots of interest for Jack Martin but many serious offers. You want him, come and get him. Otherwise, we're happy to roll into 2014 with a guy that was touted as being better than JOM 8)
[quote author=Sid link=topic=86547.msg1200582#msg1200582 date=137861826
Meow is the only coach who knows how to use NAT draft picks properly, and because he isn't a coach any more I'm not too concerned about moving from #8 to #10 in the draft, I'll still get the dude I want.
[/quote]
Nat pick 4 Jaeger omerara
Nat pick 10 Jesse Hogan
Nat pick 26ish Jed Anderson
Used pick 1 to get rance and Docherty
Used pick 5 to get gray and Harper.
Quote from: roo boys! on September 08, 2013, 03:34:37 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 08, 2013, 03:16:39 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on September 08, 2013, 02:46:06 PM
Aaron Black is scrumptious
Can't believe you'd betray me and trade away my boy Lee...considering ending my tenure at the Torrents now, this decision has rocked me to the core.
Dude I think you may have lost touch with the fact we coach different teams in WXV...You can still trade for him. :P
LOL
You're a lot easier to trade with than Holz :P He might actually rate Lee
Yeah I'm not that fun to deal with. Love lee he was brilant in the WAFL just give him time.
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
Meow is the only coach who knows how to use NAT draft picks properly, and because he isn't a coach any more I'm not too concerned about moving from #8 to #10 in the draft, I'll still get the dude I want.
I'm offended.
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
Meow is the only coach who knows how to use NAT draft picks properly, and because he isn't a coach any more I'm not too concerned about moving from #8 to #10 in the draft, I'll still get the dude I want.
The guy you
really want though? ;)
Quote from: Toga on September 08, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 08, 2013, 03:31:07 PM
Meow is the only coach who knows how to use NAT draft picks properly, and because he isn't a coach any more I'm not too concerned about moving from #8 to #10 in the draft, I'll still get the dude I want.
The guy you really want though? ;)
Shut up. :P
Moscow give: Adam Treloar, Will Hoskin-Elliot, and Picks 36 and 71
New York give: Dyson Heppell and pick 10
Sid to confirm
Quote from: Jukes on September 08, 2013, 10:37:45 PM
Moscow give: Adam Treloar, Will Hoskin-Elliot, and Picks 36 and 71
New York give: Dyson Heppell and pick 10
Sid to confirm
Confirmed.
Treloar and Heppell will both likely be 105 players, DE% due to no right foot is going to doom Heppell I think, too easy to pressure his left and force him to HB or kick ineffectively. Pick 10 is valuable, really didn't want to get rid of it, but couldn't find a way to keep it in this deal.
WHE is a legitimately talented HFF/wing type player, should be a solid career 85-95, and should retain his F positioning as well. Stoked to have him at the club. 36 & 71 help soften the blow of 10.
Sorry team! Have been swamped at work dealing with people's shower and at home have to deal with baby's literal shower! Trade votes will come some time this week....
Wow so we thought Tom Rockliff was unmoveable but we have had a nice offer for him! He could be on the move very soon so if anyone wants him, better get in quick ;)
Must be an Adelaide player involved :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 09, 2013, 07:08:46 PM
Must be an Adelaide player involved :P
Almost certainly, inb4 Tambling.
One get's the feeling a huge trade is on the way...
:o
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 09, 2013, 07:24:01 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 09, 2013, 07:03:11 PM
Wow so we thought Tom Rockliff was unmoveable but we have had a nice offer for him! He could be on the move very soon so if anyone wants him, better get in quick ;)
Not so keen on trading our best player and obvious Captain until a kid gets much more consistant, that's a few years away
At least someone at Pacific has some sense. :P
So I'm not allowed to shop around one of our stars? No deal has been confirmed yet so I don't understand negativity.
I thought this is what happens, you work on deals to strengthen your team and try and get the best offers for players! Obviously not?
I just find it odd that he's 'unmoveable' this whole time and then suddenly once you get an offer (most likely involving one of your Crows man-crushes) he's up for trade. Especially when what teabs said is true. ???
Quote from: Jayman on September 09, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 09, 2013, 07:38:31 PM
I just find it odd that he's 'unmoveable' this whole time and then suddenly once you get an offer (most likely involving one of your Crows man-crushes) he's up for trade. Especially when what teabs said is true. ???
I think you should focus on your own team and leave us guys to do what we think is best. I am not going to confirm any trade unless I have approval from tbag and our assistant, tabs agrees. So its fair to say we aren't going to get beaten horribly in any deal as I consider those 2 guys to have some smarts about them.
Calm your falm.
Yes boss. :o
Was only joking around
#Banter
#calmyourownfarm
Wasn't sure where to post this but if anyone is in need of an assistant in WXV, I am more than happy to help out.
I am currently assisting Nails in AXV's and co-coaching with Nigey in BXV. Would be awesome to take on another role.
Chuck me a PM if you need a hand!
Thanks :)
Quote from: vinny on September 09, 2013, 07:56:51 PM
Wasn't sure where to post this but if anyone is in need of an assistant in WXV, I am more than happy to help out.
I am currently assisting Nails in AXV's and co-coaching with Nigey in BXV. Would be awesome to take on another role.
Chuck me a PM if you need a hand!
Thanks :)
Trying to get vinny to join myself and nrich in WXVs...
But if he doesn't want to, highly recommended. Receives the title of assistant role, makes you want to give him a head coaching role though.
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2013, 08:09:59 PM
Trying to get vinny to join myself and nrich in WXVs...
But if he doesn't want to, highly recommended. Receives the title of assistant role, makes you want to give him a head coaching role though.
I second this post. If anyone wants a solid, active and very helpful assistant (and doesn't already have one or an active one...), consider offering vinny a spot with your team. :)
Thanks fellas! Much appreciated. :)
Classy left footed midfielder who has plenty of time and space with ball in hand Dom Tyson is up for trade if anybody wants him.
Alrighty, after some very lengthy discussions and competition for David Swallow...
Berlin trade: David Swallow, Kane Lucas, Thomas Lynch (GC), Pick 36 and Pick 54
Seoul trade: Josh J Kennedy, Paul Duffield, Hayden Ballantyne and Pick 82
Reasoning: Duffman returns to Berlin!
Seriously though, this trade adds more competitiveness to my team and more structure. David Swallow will be a star and may just have a D/M status next year, but that should only last a year, if longer, he should score a bit less because of it. Kane Lucas will steadily improve sure, but I have an abundance of midfielders and he won't make the cut any time soon. Tom Lynch is a loss, I'm not gonna lie, I do rate him, but I think he may take a while to score like a premium.
JJK is premium forward who will never lose that status, which is very valuable in this game. Had a shocking last month but I am sure that was just a rough patch for him and with a new coach, he will continue his days of a 90+ average.
Duffman will either average 75 or 90 next year, it will be either one and I have decided to take the risk. Also a little in love with a return home for him :D
Ballantyne will be a handy depth forward and, in SC terms, is just about the same as Lindsay Thomas. Both of them are in the sides best 22 and will play when fit (and not suspended Hayden :P)
The picks were to balance it out.
If anyone is planning on delisting players, Beijing may be interested in offering you late draft picks for them to make up our points deficit! :)
:o Balla moves again! His third WXV club?
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 09, 2013, 09:22:42 PM
Alrighty, after some very lengthy discussions and competition for David Swallow...
Berlin trade: David Swallow, Kane Lucas, Thomas Lynch (GC), Pick 36 and Pick 54
Seoul trade: Josh J Kennedy, Paul Duffield, Hayden Ballantyne and Pick 82
Reasoning: Duffman returns to Berlin!
Seriously though, this trade adds more competitiveness to my team and more structure. David Swallow will be a star and may just have a D/M status next year, but that should only last a year, if longer, he should score a bit less because of it. Kane Lucas will steadily improve sure, but I have an abundance of midfielders and he won't make the cut any time soon. Tom Lynch is a loss, I'm not gonna lie, I do rate him, but I think he may take a while to score like a premium.
JJK is premium forward who will never lose that status, which is very valuable in this game. Had a shocking last month but I am sure that was just a rough patch for him and with a new coach, he will continue his days of a 90+ average.
Duffman will either average 75 or 90 next year, it will be either one and I have decided to take the risk. Also a little in love with a return home for him :D
Ballantyne will be a handy depth forward and, in SC terms, is just about the same as Lindsay Thomas. Both of them are in the sides best 22 and will play when fit (and not suspended Hayden :P)
The picks were to balance it out.
Confirmed!
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
If anyone is planning on delisting players, Beijing may be interested in offering you late draft picks for them to make up our points deficit! :)
CrowsFan is planning on delisting Raines i think :P
So many deals happening I think we need to vote once every two days or something :P
Seriously though, it's the best part of WXV :D
Oh really? haha >:D
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
If anyone is planning on delisting players, Beijing may be interested in offering you late draft picks for them to make up our points deficit! :)
Give us 88 back and you can have Petrenko. :P
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2013, 09:41:07 PM
Oh really? haha >:D
Yep, never ever going to play a game for me. He's yours if you want him, will add 627 to your cap ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on September 09, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
If anyone is planning on delisting players, Beijing may be interested in offering you late draft picks for them to make up our points deficit! :)
Give us 88 back and you can have Petrenko. :P
I might give you 85 ;)
Quote from: Holzman on September 09, 2013, 10:32:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 09, 2013, 10:11:32 PM
Quote from: Toga on September 09, 2013, 09:27:41 PM
If anyone is planning on delisting players, Beijing may be interested in offering you late draft picks for them to make up our points deficit! :)
Give us 88 back and you can have Petrenko. :P
I might give you 85 ;)
Tbh, that'd do. Just need it to upgrade Kyle Hartigan from our rookie list. :P
Ryan Crowley can go to whoever wants him for a late pick (or rookie pick even tbh).
Right!
17 trades are coming, expect something in your inbox soon....
Hi again all!
Thanks for everyone responding so quickly...
Always a risk I lose people's pm's in the clutter, but I don't think I've received:
Master Q/Toga
CrowsFan
elephants
Hellopplz
pyronerd/Sid
yet
Some trades have been rejected, but decided this year I won't say which ones until all the votes are in. Voting will close Monday midnight. Basically 3 trades have been rejected, 10 will pass, and 4 still in limbo.
:o ;D :-X
I'm excited and nervous now.
I feel like one of mine is going to get blocked and I'm going to rage quit.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
I feel like one of mine is going to get blocked and I'm going to rage quit.
I just know one of mine is going to get blocked.
people are fearing Dublin and will try to stop them :)
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
I feel like one of mine is going to get blocked and I'm going to rage quit.
I just know one of mine is going to get blocked.
people are fearing Dublin and will try to stop them :)
I personally vote on the merit of the trade not whether spud Dublin is involved or not.
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2013, 10:32:17 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 10:28:21 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
I feel like one of mine is going to get blocked and I'm going to rage quit.
I just know one of mine is going to get blocked.
people are fearing Dublin and will try to stop them :)
I personally vote on the merit of the trade not whether spud Dublin is involved or not.
all good than, my trades should pass.
If my trade/s get rejected ::)
shower will go down. I need the trades to go through otherwise our season 2014 is over before it began.
I hope none of my trades get rejected... :-X
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
If my trade/s get rejected ::)
shower will go down. I need the trades to go through otherwise our season 2014 is over before it began.
didnt you only have 1 small trade?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2013, 10:27:34 AM
I feel like one of mine is going to get blocked and I'm going to rage quit.
I feel like one of yours will get rejected to lol
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 10:42:56 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2013, 10:36:33 AM
If my trade/s get rejected ::)
shower will go down. I need the trades to go through otherwise our season 2014 is over before it began.
didnt you only have 1 small trade?
I was future proofing my statement.
to the SEVERAL people PMing me asking me if there trade got rejected or not..... be patient ffs! lol
Being patient is boring
Surprisingly I wasn't one of the people messaging you lol
can't you just tell us the trades that passed or at least 2-3 of them?
No need to be a dick tease :o
I understand if you reveal all of the approved trades those yet to vote realise their votes have an impact on certain trades...
Perhaps a drip feed? :o
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:00:46 AM
to the SEVERAL people PMing me asking me if there trade got rejected or not..... be patient ffs! lol
geez people, just wait. some people have no patience :P
One trade I have depends on somebody else's trade being approved
So really it's like killer.
How about I compromise and tell people the results of all the trades, except for the ones involving Buenos Aires?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
How about I compromise and tell people the results of all the trades, except for the ones involving Buenos Aires?
I'm down with that.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
How about I compromise and tell people the results of all the trades, except for the ones involving Buenos Aires?
I'm down with that.
How about just announce the results of the trades involving the Pumas. As current champions I deserve to know about my trades first :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2013, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
How about I compromise and tell people the results of all the trades, except for the ones involving Buenos Aires?
I'm down with that.
How about just announce the results of the trades involving the Pumas. As current champions I deserve to know about my trades first :P
Yeah, no
This is almost as agonising a wait as waiting for pyro to pick in TX. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
This is almost as agonising a wait as waiting for pyro to pick in TX. :P
And you still got 5 sleeps to wait lol
TX ::)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 11:25:03 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2013, 11:22:05 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:16:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:12:13 AM
How about I compromise and tell people the results of all the trades, except for the ones involving Buenos Aires?
I'm down with that.
How about just announce the results of the trades involving the Pumas. As current champions I deserve to know about my trades first :P
Yeah, no
Don't think you got the joke KB. I don't have any trades pending ;)
I did know that but my brain doesn't function until after midday
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 11:30:52 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:27:08 AM
This is almost as agonising a wait as waiting for pyro to pick in TX. :P
And you still got 5 sleeps to wait lol
TX ::)
Well, if all the coaches respond before Monday we won't have to wait until then. ;)
Depends how nice Ossie is feeling doesn't it?
By the way lads, Crowley's available for a late pick if anyone wants him. Gonna be delisted if he's not traded.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
By the way lads, Crowley's available for a late pick if anyone wants him. Gonna be delisted if he's not traded.
thats what i was told about petrenko, offered a late pick and you wanted a better one.
can you be trusted :P
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 11:40:27 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 11:39:08 AM
By the way lads, Crowley's available for a late pick if anyone wants him. Gonna be delisted if he's not traded.
thats what i was told about petrenko, offered a late pick and you wanted a better one.
can you be trusted :P
If you don't believe me, PM ML and ask him... He'll say the same thing.
ReverseHunger strike until ossie reveals the trades negged >:(
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 02:13:04 PM
ReverseHunger strike until ossie reveals the trades negged >:(
I'm down with that as well. ;D
I would join, but have a pack of delicious delicious tiny teddies right next to me
Quote from: Jukes on September 11, 2013, 02:32:29 PM
I would join, but have a pack of delicious delicious tiny teddies right next to me
Read the fine print. ;)
Yep, haven't voted yet as got sidetracked last night, and general tiredness as would need to write a bit on why I neg trades, so it would take a bit of time ;).
As long as I respond before Monday midnight, I should be fine for the voting process. Very tempted to just vote a few days later to make you guys wait >:D. MWAHAHAHAHA.
(http://www.1800pocketpc.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/evil-laugh.png)
we starting a mutiny against HP now? bringing the league into disrepute
suspended for 12 months
fined 2 million
loss of draft picks
and TBAG has to coach for the 12 months
Bring it!
(http://72.29.91.222/creatures/545.jpg)
Wait the Reindeers also breathe fire? I thought it was just your Polar Bears :P :o
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2013, 02:52:27 PM
Bring it!
(http://72.29.91.222/creatures/545.jpg)
You really like your XVs teams to breathe fire don't you... :o :P
brb making creative postings on binny's wall.
Polar Bears, Reindeers, same thing to me :P. And who doesn't like fire... You don't like fire? BURN >:D.
(http://www.oddfootball.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/bulgaria.jpg)
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 02:57:36 PM
brb making creative postings on binny's wall.
Been a while :P.
breathing fire that nothing, try missiles.
(http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20130214/rahimi20130214050806140.jpg)
I'm sure everyone at Dublin would be drunk, so wouldn't be suprised if missiles were shot straight up in the air just to land back ontop of that ship :-X.
meh the samurai will cut you up before you can launch them.
HP points out that I made a mistake in sending the trades....
I sent:
Seoul gives: Dawson Simpson
Tokyo gives: Ben Mcglynn
when it should have been:
Seoul gives: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo gives: Ben Mcglynn
If anyone has issue with that revised trade, please let me know
lol I probably should have noticed that :-X
Lol me to but obviously forgot
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 11:09:13 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 11:00:46 AM
to the SEVERAL people PMing me asking me if there trade got rejected or not..... be patient ffs! lol
geez people, just wait. some people have no patience :P
Kids these days with their internet and everything :P
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 03:54:46 PM
lol I probably should have noticed that :-X
ok il keep pick 46 :P
Look missiles and fire are pretty scary, but we all know that Cairo have got something way scarier.
SAND!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-vTqc1hdqo2o/UIA2ZipLcYI/AAAAAAAABw0/3rho6mq-YLE/s640/ws_Sand_dunes_1600x1200.jpg)
Quicksand?
(http://decantedwines.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/brewery-480.jpg)
Just turning up the kick-ass in my team...
And no, we don't have a supplement program :P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 11, 2013, 04:58:27 PM
Quicksand?
You bet.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 11, 2013, 04:57:16 PM
Look missiles and fire are pretty scary, but we all know that Cairo have got something way scarier.
SAND!
Don't forget the mazes that are those catacombs and then the harsh Egyptian heat! ;D
Tokyo has a supplement program
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 11, 2013, 05:00:00 PM
Just turning up the kick-ass in my team...
And no, we don't have a supplement program :P
its interesting how dublin always seems to get the comments about my players beibg all drunk, when germany are called the brewers and has Oettinge as a major sponsor.
granted my major sponsor is guiness ;)
(http://thequizzers.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/smirnoff.jpg)
Moscow's Major Sponsor
Ok, another trade for Beijing - with the only purpose being increasing our points cap!! :P
Beijing give: Pick #77 (ND)
Berlin give: Alipate Carlile
Purple 77 to confirm!
Will take our points cap to 22,761 - not far off of reaching the cap now. :D
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2013, 05:11:24 PM
Ok, another trade for Beijing - with the only purpose being increasing our points cap!! :P
Beijing give: Pick #77 (ND)
Berlin give: Alipate Carlile
Purple 77 to confirm!
Will take our points cap to 22,761 - not far off of reaching the cap now. :D
Pick 77! Who could refuse?!
Carlile played two matches this year, one of which was crucial and he let me down big time. If anyone can recall, I said a player had a couple of strikes and wasn't far off being delisted. Well, cya Alipate! I vow never to play him again lol
Quote from: Toga on September 11, 2013, 05:11:24 PM
Will take our points cap to 22,761 - not far off of reaching the cap now. :D
Crowley will get you even closer. >:D
As will Raines :)
I think we're below the cap after our trades (I could be wrong, haven't worked it out), our delistings should take us further under. :D
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
I think we're below the cap after our trades (I could be wrong, haven't worked it out), our delistings should take us further under. :D
Assuming your trades have passed ??? :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 11, 2013, 05:47:56 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 05:44:50 PM
I think we're below the cap after our trades (I could be wrong, haven't worked it out), our delistings should take us further under. :D
Assuming your trades have passed ??? :P
That is true, yes. I'm assuming they have been/will be. :-X
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 11, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
Tokyo has a supplement program
:O
What do you expect we are both Essendon fans >:)
Does that mean Pacific are paying a player outside the cap as Crows supporters and should therefore be stripped of draft picks? :o
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 11, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
Tokyo has a supplement program
:O
What do you expect we are both Essendon fans >:)
Does that mean Pacific are paying a player outside the cap as Crows supporters and should therefore be stripped of draft picks? :o
Every club has third party agreements, what's your point ??? Also so do the Llamas :o Assistants should also be sacked ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 11, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 11, 2013, 06:33:18 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 11, 2013, 06:06:12 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 11, 2013, 05:49:54 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 05:03:25 PM
Tokyo has a supplement program
:O
What do you expect we are both Essendon fans >:)
Does that mean Pacific are paying a player outside the cap as Crows supporters and should therefore be stripped of draft picks? :o
Every club has third party agreements, what's your point ??? Also so do the Llamas :o Assistants should also be sacked ;)
Don't you dare drag me in to such drama! :P
Carlton have so many guys with beards and or mustaches.
Doesn't apply for the Thunder :'(
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2013, 09:59:57 AM
CrowsFan
elephants
Hellopplz
pyronerd/Sid
Who's still yet to vote?
HP has because Oss said he pointed out the mistake over PM. 3 left. Can't imagine CF being late on these type of things, unless he has some assignments or something. Sid hasn't been on all night and it's highly doubtful that Pyro would do it.
I have exams this week MC, but squeezed in time for the voting earlier today :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2013, 08:11:32 PM
I have exams this week MC, but squeezed in time for the voting earlier today :)
Solid commitment (https://cdn2.iconfinder.com/data/icons/snipicons/500/thumbs-up-128.png)
Quote from: My Chumps on September 11, 2013, 08:10:23 PM
HP has because Oss said he pointed out the mistake over PM. 3 left. Can't imagine CF being late on these type of things, unless he has some assignments or something. Sid hasn't been on all night and it's highly doubtful that Pyro would do it.
Pointing out the mistake doesn't mean I voted ;). Just means I've seen the PM :P.
I haven't done a worlds trade and the window has been open for 9 days now.
I feel dirty :-\
Quote from: elephants on September 11, 2013, 11:09:54 PM
I haven't done a worlds trade and the window has been open for 9 days now.
I feel dirty :-\
your a disgrace to the trade addicts organisation ele. your one of the founding members
Quote from: Holzman on September 11, 2013, 11:17:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 11, 2013, 11:09:54 PM
I haven't done a worlds trade and the window has been open for 9 days now.
I feel dirty :-\
your a disgrace to the trade addicts organisation ele. your one of the founding members
Yeah haha, my bad. Almost had a few things but y'know how it is.
It is still very early days in the trading period.
I have not done a trade either ele but am negotiating on a couple. It just means we are really cautious about what we want.
In my case I do not have a strong team but do not have a real lot to offer either so need to look closely at all trades.
Right! First of all, only elephants hasn't voted, but his vote won't change a single thing, so will announce. Elephants! You should still vote though for the record, because a 2nd missed period could see you sacked....
We have new Co-Coaches!
Ricochet and Torpedo10 both pass! Welcome aboard Rico and welcome back Torp!
Trades Passed Fully (2 votes or less)
* These trades passed, with or without my objection
Trade 3
Cape Town trade: Colin Sylvia
Wellington trade: Jimmy Toumpas and Patrick Karnezis
Trade 4
Mexico City trade: Mark LeCras
Seoul trade: Chris Yarran
Trade 6
Dublin trade: Jaeger O'Meara and Pick 31
Moscow trade: Nat Fyfe
Trade 8
Berlin trades: Matt Stokes, John Butcher and Jamie Cripps
Cairo trade: Nick Dal Santo and Lindsay Thomas
Trade 9
Cape Town trade: Greg Broughton
Tokyo trade: Lewis Jetta
Trade 10
Cape Town trade: Troy Chaplin and Sam Dwyer
Cairo trade: Jason Johannisen, Michael Evans and Pick 37
Trade 11
Seoul trade: Dawson Simpson + Pick 46
Tokyo trade: Ben McGlynn
Dublin trade: Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49
New York trade: Grant Birchall and Tom Lee
Trade 15
Tokyo trade: Pick 26
Berlin trade: Mitch Clisby and Pick 90
Trade 16
Moscow trade: Adam Treloar, Will Hoskin-Elliott, Pick 35, Pick 71
New York trade: Dyson Heppell and Pick 10
Trade 17
Berlin trade: David Swallow, Kane Lucas, Thomas Lynch (GC), Pick 36 and Pick 54
Seoul trade: Josh J Kennedy, Paul Duffield, Hayden Ballantyne and Pick 82
Trades Fully Rejected (9 votes or more)
* These trades passed, with or without my support
Trade 2
Moscow trade: Shaun Higgins & Pick 53
Mexico City trade: Daniel Currie & Pick 38
Reason: General consensus being that an injury prone Higgins is still of far greater value than a gameless 24 year old ruck, the difference in picks does not make the difference.
Trade 12
Pacific trades: Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia and Pick 60
Tokyo trade: Pick 5 and Pick 44
Reason: Tom Nicholls of great value, and Pacific should be looking at increasing depth, not losing it. Also, even if this trade wasn't rejected by the coaches, it would not have passed Salary cap restrictions as it dropped Pacific below the 24,000 mark.
Trade 14
Cape Town trade: Tom Hawkins
New York trade: Andrew Gaff and Pick 8
Reason: Hawkins and Gaff seen to have roughly equal worth, and that Pick 8 is too much in addition.
Trades Passed by the Coaches, but referred to me (3 votes or more)
Trade 1
Dublin trade: Jesse Hogan & Sam Docherty
Moscow trade: Michael Walters & Jack Darling
Final verdict: PASS Although Hogan basically unproven, it is basically the same as trading for a top 3 pick. No issue from me.
Trade 5
Cairo trade: Brad Sewell and Chris Newman
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 37 and Pick 55
Final verdict: PASS Extremely close to rejecting this one, but with Newman basically done, and Sewell likely on the decline, the picks are just ok. Also, Buenos Aires need to start planning for the future, so similar trades like this might be rejected involving Buenos Aires in the future.
Trade 7
Cairo trade: Danny Stanley, Matt Jones, Lewis Stevenson and Pick 88
Beijing trade: Sam Kerridge and Pick 23
Final verdict: PASS No problem from me, this the exact kind of trade the salary cap should be encouraging.
Trades Rejected by the Coaches, but referred to me (8 votes or less)
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So what do people think is going to happen to Nicholls when Smith is back then?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
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So what do people think is going to happen to Nicholls when Smith is back then?
The way I see it is that Nicholls + Talia aren't worth Pick 5 and 44 (yes, I know pick 60 is involved). Talia's a meh scorer due to the role he plays and as Os said, Pacific need the depth. My opinion on Nicholls is that while he averaged really nicely, we haven't seen him play in a team with both Zmith and Dixo, which most likely will reduce his output making him nowhere near as valuable and as good as he's currently being rated. Plus, you can't be totally upset, you do have Dawson Simpson now.
Also, can we get an update on caps please Os (if you have a record of it, happy to work it out myself if you don't)?
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
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So what do people think is going to happen to Nicholls when Smith is back then?
The way I see it is that Nicholls + Talia aren't worth Pick 5 and 44 (yes, I know pick 60 is involved). Talia's a meh scorer due to the role he plays and as Os said, Pacific need the depth. My opinion on Nicholls is that while he averaged really nicely, we haven't seen him play in a team with both Zmith and Dixo, which most likely will reduce his output making him nowhere near as valuable and as good as he's currently being rated. Plus, you can't be totally upset, you do have Dawson Simpson now.
So your saying that Nicholls isny worth pick 5 when the trade got negged because hes worth more? Lol.
Imo thought it was a much fairer trade then the three thst were referred to ossie
amazingly I was least worried about the hogan trade I thought the jaeger bomb or birchall deal would have copped more votes.
anyway on that time to release the blockbuster trade.
correct me if im wrong chumps
Dublin Trade: Jack Watts + Jack Darling + Jed Lamb + Brad Hill + Lachy Plowman
Cape Town Trades: Jobe Watson + Lyndenn Dunn
Reason: Jobe Watson is a star, while he is pushing on in age he is contracted for 4 more years and while im not expecing him to be going 110+ in 3 years time he should be more than respectable. I need that 6th mid with the second utility spot normally vacated by NVB or other postions. Just doesnt cut it for a premiership hopeful. Dunn has questions marks on JS and role, if everything goes to plan he is a 90 average back, if it doesnt he plays in the vfl.
I have faith in guys like schoenemakers who i think would have averaged 75+ this year if he didnt get injured.
everyone tells me how good darling is but im not a big fan, watts is a massive loss as he was just starting to come good. He is one of the reasons why dublin were soo dominant towards the end of the year. Hill locked himself in the hawks 22 in his second year, thats very imprseive, plowman another top 3 pick with potential and lamb if he cracks into the sqaud can make it.
Im losing depth and youth but I have alot of guys on the bench that i really rate to cover. Im losing 2 of my starting 15 but gaininy 2 starters that i belief will combine for a bigger score.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 10:14:18 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
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So what do people think is going to happen to Nicholls when Smith is back then?
The way I see it is that Nicholls + Talia aren't worth Pick 5 and 44 (yes, I know pick 60 is involved). Talia's a meh scorer due to the role he plays and as Os said, Pacific need the depth. My opinion on Nicholls is that while he averaged really nicely, we haven't seen him play in a team with both Zmith and Dixo, which most likely will reduce his output making him nowhere near as valuable and as good as he's currently being rated. Plus, you can't be totally upset, you do have Dawson Simpson now.
Kinda thought it meant people thought Jay was giving away to much not us
If the Nicholls/Simpson trade went through we had trades planned we liked for Hampson and another one with Judd and Campbell
Now can't really do them
Shocked the Kerridge one got passed he is worth Stanley how is pick 23 worth Matt Jones, Stevenson and 88 ??
I only negged one trade last week :P
Sorry Holz, but that gets negged from me.
I understand you're worried about our future Oss, but we can always trade those premos next season for younger players when it becomes an issue.
Instead of being worried about our future, perhaps you should worry about our now :o
Having had like 5 games where we played under 15.0 players, adding depth is good for the now.
Yeah, I had no problem with that trade at all. Definitely not one-sided enough for me to block it.
Loling at "Hawkins and Gaff seen to have roughly equal worth". What a joke. Gaff averages 71 AS A MIDFIELDER, and Hawkins, in a year where he's been absolutely plauged by injury, has averaged only 5 points lower with 66 AS A FORWARD. I'm sure I don't need to tell you all about how valuable forwards are?
Also you need to take into account Sid's team. He's got Libba, Christensen, Greene, Macrae, Treloar, Bennell and Prestia. Where does Gaff fit into that? And for him, it's basically
IN: Black, Atley, Hawkins
OUT: Birchall, Lee, Gaff
He's not really losing.
#endrant
Gaff is worth MORE than Hawkins.
5 points greater average, still young and will learn to break the tag.
Hawkins 25yo spud, averages 5 less. Only had 1 season above 79.
Gaff 21yo gun, averages 5 more. Has just as many seasons above 79 as Hawkins. Despite playing half the time.
Quote from: Holzman on September 12, 2013, 10:23:58 AM
amazingly I was least worried about the hogan trade I thought the jaeger bomb or birchall deal would have copped more votes.
anyway on that time to release the blockbuster trade.
correct me if im wrong chumps
Dublin Trade: Jack Watts + Jack Darling + Jed Lamb + Brad Hill + Lachy Plowman
Cape Town Trades: Jobe Watson + Lyndenn Dunn
Reason: Jobe Watson is a star, while he is pushing on in age he is contracted for 4 more years and while im not expecing him to be going 110+ in 3 years time he should be more than respectable. I need that 6th mid with the second utility spot normally vacated by NVB or other postions. Just doesnt cut it for a premiership hopeful. Dunn has questions marks on JS and role, if everything goes to plan he is a 90 average back, if it doesnt he plays in the vfl.
I have faith in guys like schoenemakers who i think would have averaged 75+ this year if he didnt get injured.
everyone tells me how good darling is but im not a big fan, watts is a massive loss as he was just starting to come good. He is one of the reasons why dublin were soo dominant towards the end of the year. Hill locked himself in the hawks 22 in his second year, thats very imprseive, plowman another top 3 pick with potential and lamb if he cracks into the sqaud can make it.
Im losing depth and youth but I have alot of guys on the bench that i really rate to cover. Im losing 2 of my starting 15 but gaininy 2 starters that i belief will combine for a bigger score.
Confirmed. Darling + Watts have a lot of potential, and it sures up my back and forward lines which need the most work. Lamb hasn't solidified his spot in Sydney's best 21 as of yet, but I'm sure he'll develop into a solid forward/mid. Hill looks handy, although I doubt he'll end up scoring much as he's more of an impact player. Plowman should be a solid scorer for years to come.
Saying goodbye to Watson is extremely difficult. He's been an excellent servent to the club since I picked him up in the third round back in the original draft (excellent drafting there MC ;) ). But, with my current list, I don't expect to win the premiership within the next 2 years when Watson will be averaging 115+. I may aswell trade him while he is at his highest value.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 12, 2013, 10:35:35 AM
Sorry Holz, but that gets negged from me.
How? Who does it even favour? Nobody I'm getting is averaging over 80, so I suppose it favours Holz when he's getting a 115+ midfielder and a 85+ defender?
What about Hawkins back issues its said to be a permanent thing
It's the pick 8 that's the issue anyway 2nd round prob would of been passed
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 10:44:57 AM
Gaff is worth MORE than Hawkins.
5 points greater average, still young and will learn to break the tag.
Hawkins 25yo spud, averages 5 less. Only had 1 season above 79.
Gaff 21yo gun, averages 5 more. Has just as many seasons above 79 as Hawkins. Despite playing half the time.
You're mental. How can you be sure somebody will learn to break the tag? A similar player in Stephen Hill hasn't, and he's averaging 80ish because of it. Very similar cases if you ask me.
Hawkins averaged over 100 in the second half of 2012 (when you don't count his sub affected 16) AS A MOTHERFLEEPING FORWARD.
*I should really be doing school work right now.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 10:46:50 AM
What about Hawkins back issues its said to be a permanent thing
It's the pick 8 that's the issue anyway 2nd round prob would of been passed
If I throw in a second rounder, will you guys let it pass?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
You're mental. How can you be sure somebody will learn to break the tag?
The same way you can be sure a player will get over a chronic back injury I suppose.
KB - Nicholls argument invalid anyway, Pacific didn't have the points to make that trade.
No talking about trades that haven't been voted on yet guys!
And yep, an updated cap list will be coming.
I know but I'm more debating why coaches voted against the Nicholls trade more then it getting rejected
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 12, 2013, 10:20:13 AM
So your saying that Nicholls isny worth pick 5 when the trade got negged because hes worth more? Lol.
Imo thought it was a much fairer trade then the three thst were referred to ossie
No, I'm saying that Nicholls isn't as godly as Pacific make him out to be and that's he not worth Pick 5...
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 10:25:20 AM
Kinda thought it meant people thought Jay was giving away to much not us
If the Nicholls/Simpson trade went through we had trades planned we liked for Hampson and another one with Judd and Campbell
Now can't really do them
Shocked the Kerridge one got passed he is worth Stanley how is pick 23 worth Matt Jones, Stevenson and 88 ??
It is Jay giving away too much, because as Os stated, it takes them below the cap, but it's also because Nicholls is not worth Pick 5.
If you read Os' explanation you'd know why the Kerridge trade was passed. It was clearly stated and agreed to by both teams that the trade was fair and helped both teams out with their cap issues. We're above the cap, so trading players gets us under, while for Beijing, receiving players gets the closer to being above the cap. We have/had extensive back and mid depth so Jones and Stevenson were never going to get too many games whereas they're more likely to be best XV at Beijing. Pick 88 was merely an add-on. Beijing also have a priority, which is why they were open to trading their second round pick (23).
Quote from: ossie85 on September 12, 2013, 10:54:06 AM
And yep, an updated cap list will be coming.
Cheers Os! 8)
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Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
You're mental. How can you be sure somebody will learn to break the tag?
The same way you can be sure a player will get over a chronic back injury I suppose.
Ha, what a cheap shot, and way to overlook every other arguement I've made.
I'm not saying he has to get over it. Both are pre-meditated risks that we're willing to take.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 10:50:05 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 10:44:57 AM
Gaff is worth MORE than Hawkins.
5 points greater average, still young and will learn to break the tag.
Hawkins 25yo spud, averages 5 less. Only had 1 season above 79.
Gaff 21yo gun, averages 5 more. Has just as many seasons above 79 as Hawkins. Despite playing half the time.
You're mental. How can you be sure somebody will learn to break the tag? A similar player in Stephen Hill hasn't, and he's averaging 80ish because of it. Very similar cases if you ask me.
Hawkins averaged over 100 in the second half of 2012 (when you don't count his sub affected 16) AS A MOTHERFLEEPING FORWARD.
*I should really be doing school work right now.
Stephen Hill is only 23... your point loses relevance when we're talking about young players breaking tags.
Also Gaff is 4 years younger. That's HUGE, you have a player that'll play for a club 4 years more than what Hawkins will. Possibly 6-7 years more if Hawkins retires due to back issues in a few years.
Also you can't go on forever about "hawkins was sooo good in 2012 blah blah blah blah"
He has only EVER had ONE season above an 80 average. He's like Beau Muston, a spud who had a few good games one season.
(http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/multimedia/archive/00058/compare-the-market-5_58395a.jpg)
Let's compare the pair:
Hawkins' last 3 season's averages: 66.6, 94.8, 69.6
Gaff's last 3 season's averages: 71, 90.4, 61 (his debut season)
Hawkins has only EVER had 1 good season. 1 good season out of 7 against Gaff 1 good season out of 3.
Also Hawkins has NEVER played 22 games in a season. Other than Gaff's debut season he has always played 22 games.
So our cap went down to 24,619 with the outs. :o Almost a 10,000 point reduction...
However, the ins for the team brought it back up 29,663.
That's if my mathematics is correct (did use a calculator, gonna be very embarrassing if I've stuffed up).
If I'm right, that's a 4,029 point reduction. ;D
Where's the updated cap? Doesn't look updated to me
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:31:28 AM
Where's the updated cap? Doesn't look updated to me
It's not, I did the maths myself.
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:31:28 AM
Where's the updated cap? Doesn't look updated to me
Hopefully in the next couple of days
Quote from: ossie85 on September 12, 2013, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:31:28 AM
Where's the updated cap? Doesn't look updated to me
Hopefully in the next couple of days
I don't really care how long it takes. Thought Nigey was reading off a different hymnbook to me is all.
Comparing Hawkins to Beau Muston. Are you serious? "A spud who had a few good games one season". He averaged 98 (or something) without his sub affected game. That's 20 games in case you were wondering.
"Never played 22 games" - played 21 in 2012 and 20 this year. Not really sure what you're arguing here.
And I find it hard to take this arguement from somebody with your list.
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:01:25 AMAlso Gaff is 4 years younger. That's HUGE, you have a player that'll play for a club 4 years more than what Hawkins will. Possibly 6-7 years more if Hawkins retires due to back issues in a few years.
And yes, I can go on about how Hawkins was good in 2012... because he was. Key forwards take time to develop. He broke out when he was 24. Why can't I go on about that again?
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:37:30 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 12, 2013, 11:36:06 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:31:28 AM
Where's the updated cap? Doesn't look updated to me
Hopefully in the next couple of days
I don't really care how long it takes. Thought Nigey was reading off a different hymnbook to me is all.
I figured that since each player's value/score was on the first page, I could add and subtract the numbers myself rather than waiting for Os. Plus, I have a little bit of time to kill before I leave for Uni (although that's almost all chewed up now).
Oops, forgot to vote! Sorry team, wont happen again.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
Comparing Hawkins to Beau Muston. Are you serious? "A spud who had a few good games one season". He averaged 98 (or something) without his sub affected game. That's 20 games in case you were wondering.
"Never played 22 games" - played 21 in 2012 and 20 this year. Not really sure what you're arguing here.
And I find it hard to take this arguement from somebody with your list.
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:01:25 AMAlso Gaff is 4 years younger. That's HUGE, you have a player that'll play for a club 4 years more than what Hawkins will. Possibly 6-7 years more if Hawkins retires due to back issues in a few years.
And yes, I can go on about how Hawkins was good in 2012... because he was. Key forwards take time to develop. He broke out when he was 24. Why can't I go on about that again?
Sorry Chumps, but your trade was the most lop-sided out of all them.
Regardless of who's better out of Hawkins and Gaff, Pick 8 totally tips the scales! A top 10 draft pick! Do you understand what that is woth?
Quote from: Master Q on September 12, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
Comparing Hawkins to Beau Muston. Are you serious? "A spud who had a few good games one season". He averaged 98 (or something) without his sub affected game. That's 20 games in case you were wondering.
"Never played 22 games" - played 21 in 2012 and 20 this year. Not really sure what you're arguing here.
And I find it hard to take this arguement from somebody with your list.
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:01:25 AMAlso Gaff is 4 years younger. That's HUGE, you have a player that'll play for a club 4 years more than what Hawkins will. Possibly 6-7 years more if Hawkins retires due to back issues in a few years.
And yes, I can go on about how Hawkins was good in 2012... because he was. Key forwards take time to develop. He broke out when he was 24. Why can't I go on about that again?
Sorry Chumps, but your trade was the most lop-sided out of all them.
Regardless of who's better out of Hawkins and Gaff, Pick 8 totally tips the scales! A top 10 draft pick! Do you understand what that is woth?
It is worth a lot.....in trade value and if you get lucky. :P
Quote from: Master Q on September 12, 2013, 07:47:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 12, 2013, 11:44:32 AM
Comparing Hawkins to Beau Muston. Are you serious? "A spud who had a few good games one season". He averaged 98 (or something) without his sub affected game. That's 20 games in case you were wondering.
"Never played 22 games" - played 21 in 2012 and 20 this year. Not really sure what you're arguing here.
And I find it hard to take this arguement from somebody with your list.
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 11:01:25 AMAlso Gaff is 4 years younger. That's HUGE, you have a player that'll play for a club 4 years more than what Hawkins will. Possibly 6-7 years more if Hawkins retires due to back issues in a few years.
And yes, I can go on about how Hawkins was good in 2012... because he was. Key forwards take time to develop. He broke out when he was 24. Why can't I go on about that again?
Sorry Chumps, but your trade was the most lop-sided out of all them.
Regardless of who's better out of Hawkins and Gaff, Pick 8 totally tips the scales! A top 10 draft pick! Do you understand what that is woth?
It was worth very little to me.
*sigh*
Looks like I'm doomed to not have Hawkins, given I was trying negotiate a Gaff:Hawkins straight trade for like 6 months and Cump wouldn't have a bar of it.
I'll have to find somebody else I suppose.
Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 06:47:46 PM
Um you're funny Nigey ::) how can you possibly say that Nicholls isn't worth pick 5 when the trade got negged because I was losing too much. Of course you won't admit that you're wrong, but going by the opinions of other coaches Nicholls is worth much more than pick 5!
Well yeah, Witts/Nicholls is still on the table. Chuck us your best offers and we'll accept 1 of them :)
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I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Can't, sorry Nigey. I agree with you :P
The reasons confused Boomz and I we don't know if it meant we are giving to much or Jay is
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 06:47:46 PM
Um you're funny Nigey ::) how can you possibly say that Nicholls isn't worth pick 5 when the trade got negged because I was losing too much. Of course you won't admit that you're wrong, but going by the opinions of other coaches Nicholls is worth much more than pick 5!
Well yeah, Witts/Nicholls is still on the table. Chuck us your best offers and we'll accept 1 of them :)
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I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Young, proven scorer vs who knows. Also is a Ruck which is very limited where pick 5 will likely be a mid which are easy to find.
An interesting one is do people rate Nicholls or longer last year more. As I traded longer for pick 5
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Smith will still take points off Nicholls sharing ruck duties etc
NicNat doesn't really take points off Cox...
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 09:30:21 PM
Smith will still take points off Nicholls sharing ruck duties etc
2 rucks can score well, see: Cox + Nic Nat, Ryder + Bellchambers, Pyke + Mumford.
And you have to worry one will be subbed off if they are having a quiet game
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2013, 09:45:53 PM
And you have to worry one will be subbed off if they are having a quiet game
Why are you trying to back up Nigey lol?
Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Three questions if I may...
1. How is Zac Smith not as good as Tom Nicholls, if not better?
2. If you rate Nicholls so highly and see him as a 100ppg ruck, why would not keep him over Longer who looks likely be traded home to Victoria?
3. Can you be certain that Nicholls will continue to average 90ppg from here on out, coming back from a knee injury and in a team with Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon, with Daniel Gorringe also waiting in the wings?
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Three questions if I may...
1. How is Zac Smith not as good as Tom Nicholls, if not better?
2. If you rate Nicholls so highly and see him as a 100ppg ruck, why would not keep him over Longer who looks likely be traded home to Victoria?
3. Can you be certain that Nicholls will continue to average 90ppg from here on out, coming back from a knee injury and in a team with Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon, with Daniel Gorringe also waiting in the wings?
Can you be certain that pick 5 will be a gun and not a Richard Tambling or Beau Muston?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 12, 2013, 09:58:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 09:20:50 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on September 12, 2013, 08:28:52 PM
I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Three questions if I may...
1. How is Zac Smith not as good as Tom Nicholls, if not better?
2. If you rate Nicholls so highly and see him as a 100ppg ruck, why would not keep him over Longer who looks likely be traded home to Victoria?
3. Can you be certain that Nicholls will continue to average 90ppg from here on out, coming back from a knee injury and in a team with Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon, with Daniel Gorringe also waiting in the wings?
Can you be certain that pick 5 will be a gun and not a Richard Tambling or Beau Muston?
There is no guarantee. Just like there's no guarantee that Nicholls will continue to score like he did in the absence of Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon when they're actually in team.
I don't even get why this debate is still continuing to be honest. The trade was never going to pass regardless of whether Nicholls is/was worth Pick 5 or not because Pacific was giving too much away.
Very good point JBs! Nigey, you act like pick 5 is a sure thing to be a gun...
1. Well I don't think Nicholls could have done any more last season to keep his spot, he was extraordinary in the games he played and the stats show that. Will be up to Smith to earn his no.1 spot back now, I think! Who's to say that Nicholls goes out as soon as Smith is fit? Who knows how he'll return after his injury. I'd back Nicholls to hold the no.1 spot...
2. Btw I don't "see him as a 100ppg ruck", well I do but that isn't the point. That was his sub-free average from last season, true it was only 8 games but still have to give him credit for his work. Longer hasn't left for Victoria yet so I'm not going to presume he will just yet. Will be heaps good for us if he stays at Brisbane but even if he does go home I have no doubt he will become a very good player, c4 didn't trade for him for no reason... But would rather trade Nicholls as his trade value is obviously much higher but is not really needed as would just be no.2 to Leuey. As I've already said, Witts/Longer should be ample backup.
3. Of course I can not be certain he will, would be lying if I said I was but I'm not gonna say he won't either! Heck, he could turn into a consistent 100ppg ruck next season or yeah he could drop as others get more game time. Not worried about Dixon, he is just a pinch-hitter and Gorringe isn't quite there yet. Smith is a good player but he isn't just gonna walk straight in and boot Nicholls out... Look on the other side of it mate, the competition for his spot could drive him to push harder? Ya never know, but surely you aren't doubting his talent or his potential to be a 90-100ppg ruck?
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I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Three questions if I may...
1. How is Zac Smith not as good as Tom Nicholls, if not better?
2. If you rate Nicholls so highly and see him as a 100ppg ruck, why would not keep him over Longer who looks likely be traded home to Victoria?
3. Can you be certain that Nicholls will continue to average 90ppg from here on out, coming back from a knee injury and in a team with Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon, with Daniel Gorringe also waiting in the wings?
Can you be certain that pick 5 will be a gun and not a Richard Tambling or Beau Muston?
There is no guarantee. Just like there's no guarantee that Nicholls will continue to score like he did in the absence of Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon when they're actually in team.
I don't even get why this debate is still continuing to be honest. The trade was never going to pass regardless of whether Nicholls is/was worth Pick 5 or not because Pacific was giving too much away.
Now Pacific is giving too much away? I thought Tokyo was?
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I fail to see how Tom Nicholls is worth Pick 5 or better. Somebody, enlighten me please.
Tom Nicholls is a 21 year old ruck in an improving team. In 2013 averaged 92ppg, which happened to be just his 2nd season! If you take out the game vs Carlton where he was injury affected (iirc) he averaged 100... Rucks that average 100 don't just grow on trees mate especially one this young. Whereas pick 5 is likely to be a mid and much more easy to acquire. Everyone is worried about Zac Smith returning affecting Nicholls, but Zac Smith isn't as good as him anyway so I can't see how he'll affect him. We would love to keep Nicholls but we feel him, Leuey, Longer and Witts would be too much so 1 needs to go! Longer stays because we have Leuey and everyone knows that having a team's no.1 ruck and their backup ruck = a good strategy. Witts I feel has a good career ahead of him and will start to see regular games in 2014 now Jolly is gone. Between Witts and Longer, we should have serviceable backup for Leuenberger. Nicholls would be unnecessary to have on the list, so why not trade him to help our other positions that need more work? Makes perfect sense to me!
Hope this opened your eyes a bit :)
Three questions if I may...
1. How is Zac Smith not as good as Tom Nicholls, if not better?
2. If you rate Nicholls so highly and see him as a 100ppg ruck, why would not keep him over Longer who looks likely be traded home to Victoria?
3. Can you be certain that Nicholls will continue to average 90ppg from here on out, coming back from a knee injury and in a team with Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon, with Daniel Gorringe also waiting in the wings?
Can you be certain that pick 5 will be a gun and not a Richard Tambling or Beau Muston?
There is no guarantee. Just like there's no guarantee that Nicholls will continue to score like he did in the absence of Zac Smith and Charlie Dixon when they're actually in team.
I don't even get why this debate is still continuing to be honest. The trade was never going to pass regardless of whether Nicholls is/was worth Pick 5 or not because Pacific was giving too much away.
Now Pacific is giving too much away? I thought Tokyo was?
You gave away too many points, so even if all the coaches accepted it, it still would have been rejected since you would have fallen bellow the minimum cap. That's what he was saying.
This what I want to know who is giving to much away?
Regarding picks unknown didn't pick 3 get traded for Fyfe last season in one if the comps? I can't remember which one
And why is Holz Hogan trade seen to be greatly different then trading for a pick? Any gun taken with pick 5 will be as highly rated as Hogan but who knows how they will go at AFL level
Yeah I flowered the trade up, did not realise how close we were to being below the cap. Look for a couple of trades coming up though that will really push us over the cap and give us a bit more flexibility for the future :)
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Don't get me started on that :-X gives me the showers haha.
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Quote from: Jayman on September 12, 2013, 10:25:36 PM
Yeah I flowered the trade up, did not realise how close we were to being below the cap. Look for a couple of trades coming up though that will really push us over the cap and give us a bit more flexibility for the future :)
I did and I told you :P
Ossie did Tokyo's go up or down? With our recent trades I'm guessing up but can't remember our last cap number
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 13, 2013, 12:08:38 PM
Ossie did Tokyo's go up or down? With our recent trades I'm guessing up but can't remember our last cap number
Original caps in first post luckily enough :)
Cool thanks we went up a bit lol
Quote from: Nails on September 12, 2013, 09:38:49 PM
NicNat doesn't really take points off Cox...
Don't you dare compare NicNat/Cox and Zmith/Nicholls!
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Can you advise where we can post delisted players Oss - Adam Selwood has retired so will be cut from the Royals taking me below cap.
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Can you advise where we can post delisted players Oss - Adam Selwood has retired so will be cut from the Royals taking me below cap.
Sometime after trade period will ask for official list lodgements -- its at this point you have to be under 31,500. Doesn't matter if you are over during...
.... but I'll probably start a new thread somewhere
If you have starting forwards PM me i might have a top 5 pick on offer for it.
Third and final call for Jack Viney! Get the offers in quick or you will miss out ;)
Cape Town give: Blayne Wilson + NDS 37
Moscow give: Dom Tyson
Jukes to confirm.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 13, 2013, 10:54:39 PM
Cape Town give: Blayne Wilson + NDS 37
Moscow give: Dom Tyson
Jukes to confirm.
Confirmed
IDS* not NDS. nubs.
My bad!
God damn I'm doing a lot of trading...
Cape Town give: Lee Spurr
Pacific give: Sam Reid
Reason: I want to make Cape Town nothing but Sydney players.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 14, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Reason: I want to make Cape Town nothing but Sydney players.
Andrejs! Take him!
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Quote from: My Chumps on September 14, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
Reason: I want to make Cape Town nothing but Sydney players.
Andrejs! Take him!
Hmmm... I'll give you my last pick in the international draft for him? :P
Quote from: My Chumps on September 14, 2013, 03:11:00 PM
God damn I'm doing a lot of trading...
Cape Town give: Lee Spurr
Pacific give: Sam Reid
Reason: I want to make Cape Town nothing but Sydney players.
Cornfirm 8) we don't think Reid will ever be a top 4 fwd for us but Spurr will help out our showerty backline.
Buenos Aires Armadillos Gives Pick 16
Tokyo Give Judd+ Pick 90
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 15, 2013, 12:44:48 AM
Buenos Aires Armadillos Gives Pick 16
Tokyo Give Judd+ Pick 90
Confirm
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Buenos Aires Armadillos Gives Pick 16
Tokyo Give Judd+ Pick 90
Confirm
Pick 16 could be used for a gun and Juddy doesn't have too long left, but getting Judd in means we know we have another player who'll play 15+ games and that's what we need at a time where we lack depth.
Judd will be a great assistant to the Metal.
FYI Pending the above trades Approval Picks 5+16 will be up for sale us a package to get a premo Defender and or Ruck
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Buenos Aires Armadillos Gives Pick 16
Tokyo Give Judd+ Pick 90
Confirm
Pick 16 could be used for a gun and Juddy doesn't have too long left, but getting Judd in means we know we have another player who'll play 15+ games and that's what we need at a time where we lack depth.
Judd will be a great assistant to the Metal.
Wrong team :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 06, 2013, 11:40:54 AM
Rumours are circling that key Puma forward Jarryd 'Roughy' Roughead is close to leaving the club. Sources say he is sick of spending half his wage on sunscreen and is looking to move on.
Get your offers in quick if you want him ;)
An update on this. It turns out the two men he was spotted meeting were actually from Banana Boat and were organising a sponsorship deal to get Roughy to promote Banana Boat sunscreen. Roughy is staying in Brazil after all :)
Pick #20. Come and get it.
Pumas still nowhere near making a trade with any team :(
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Pumas still nowhere near making a trade with any team :(
because your the reigning premiers and you still have good youth
(not implying no one wats to trade because you won)
i mean your side already pretty good that you really on need to bring ppl in if they guns
but no one wants to get rid of guns
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Pumas still nowhere near making a trade with any team :(
Don't worry, we're just relaxing over here in Paris as well 8). Given, you guys in a better position list wise :P.
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Rumours are circling that key Puma forward Jarryd 'Roughy' Roughead is close to leaving the club. Sources say he is sick of spending half his wage on sunscreen and is looking to move on.
Get your offers in quick if you want him ;)
An update on this. It turns out the two men he was spotted meeting were actually from Banana Boat and were organising a sponsorship deal to get Roughy to promote Banana Boat sunscreen. Roughy is staying in Brazil after all :)
Common mix up! :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 16, 2013, 06:41:14 PM
Pumas still nowhere near making a trade with any team :(
Have you tried approaching someone? :P
is said no more trades, this is my last one trust me :P
Dublin Give: Zach Clarke + Tom Lee + 67
Moscow Give: Charlie Dixon + Robert Murphy
Reason: this move kills me Zach Clarke will be a star of the comp, getting named in all the youth AA squads, as the sole ruck he averaged 104 and ended the year in brilliant. The issue is with watson in the squad my utility spots are used up and clarke doesnt make my best 15. Lee showed alot in the last 8 games kicking 16 goals, still young and was a star in the WAFL.
However im punting on Dixon F/R so I can move mitch clark off my field and dixon can cover my ruckline if i need it. Very worried about his ankles but im just hoping its something he can work through. Bit of a risk here but why not im going for the flag. That leads me into murphy, hasnt got long left but had his best SC season and in contracted for at least 1 more season. IM hoping he plays 2 more and can be a very solid D4. just giving me more depth.
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is said no more trades, this is my last one trust me :P
Dublin Give: Zach Clarke + Tom Lee + 67
Moscow Give: Charlie Dixon + Robert Murphy
Confirmed
Sorry about the delay in sending the votes again!
Crazy work busy at the moment, I think only 4 or 5 at the moment anyway
No rush ossie, have a few trades on the brink! ;)
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2013, 09:12:52 AM
No rush ossie, have a few trades on the brink! ;)
About time. :P
Lids for sale to the highest bidder
$101
2014 First round pick
2016 First round pick
;)
Quote from: Holzman on September 17, 2013, 12:11:04 PM
2014 First round pick
2016 First round pick
;)
None of that!
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2014 First round pick
2016 First round pick
;)
None of that!
What's wrong with the 2015 draft class Holz!?!
nothing in the nba you can draft future picks with the rule you cant trade 2 seasons in a row first round picks away.
if we could do this it would ruin the comp, you could go insanely old and have no future whatsoever.
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2014 First round pick
2016 First round pick
;)
None of that!
What's wrong with the 2015 draft class Holz!?!
nothing in the nba you can draft future picks with the rule you cant trade 2 seasons in a row first round picks away.
if we could do this it would ruin the comp, you could go insanely old and have no future whatsoever.
+1
Eck, just recording that would be a pain.
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Lids for sale to the highest bidder
Pick 5 :-\
And the rest ;)
I said hes for sale, i didnt say he was going cheap ;)
ossie is currently the highest bidder :P
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Lids for sale to the highest bidder
Pick 5 :-\
20 premiership points
2013 EXV Premiership Cup
How many other WXV are going to be able to brag having a grand final trophy from EXV?
I can't believe you holz ::)
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2013, 08:55:22 AM
I can't believe you holz ::)
I'm glass half full kind of guy. Got to support my club.
We've contacted nearly every team :P So no excuses ;D
Contact me if you want to nab any spuds from our list
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 18, 2013, 11:30:03 PM
Contact me if you want to nab any spuds from our list
Witts has the work rate of a potato. Can you give us Witts? :P
Q did Toga talk to you about my offer today?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 18, 2013, 11:51:09 PM
Q did Toga talk to you about my offer today?
Yeah and it's no where near what we want for him.
NDT Give: Jarryd Blair + Terry Milera + N25
FOR
Pacific Give: Shane Savage + Zac Williams + Daniel Talia + N42
Jay to confirm 8)
Confirm.
A trade! A trade! Finally NDT have a trade!
Whitecross doing his ACL again means I have even less forward depth and the season hasn't even started yet! Please give me your forwards :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 21, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Whitecross doing his ACL again means I have even less forward depth and the season hasn't even started yet! Please give me your forwards :)
You can have Hale for Minno. :P
If you want any if our premo forwards talk to Boomz and good luck lol
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 21, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Whitecross doing his ACL again means I have even less forward depth and the season hasn't even started yet! Please give me your forwards :)
Probably have to offer more than the spuds you were offering me for Danger :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2013, 01:48:01 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 21, 2013, 01:28:51 PM
Whitecross doing his ACL again means I have even less forward depth and the season hasn't even started yet! Please give me your forwards :)
Probably have to offer more than the spuds you were offering me for Danger :P
If you're calling two 23 year old mids who are capable of averaging 100+ spuds what do you call your players? Both better than all your mids bar Danger and Lids.
All my mids are capable of aversfing 100 if they sre ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 21, 2013, 06:17:04 PM
All my mids are capable of aversfing 100 if they sre ;)
Well Hartlett averaged 100.23 between rounds 1-5 and 14 onwards. Was just that rough patch in the middle that dropped his average down to 90. He fixes that up he averages 100 easily. Hill is up and down yes, but doesn't need many touches to score high (DT avg 70 vs SC avg 86). Crowley now helping him learn how to break a tag. Could very easily average 100.
Ok the Pumas have come to an agreement with New Delhi.
Pumas give - Mitch Duncan + Pick 57
Tigers give - Jake Stringer + Pick 25
I know I'm getting killed with the deal, but with WhiteX doing his ACL again I was desperate for forwards. Stringer got plenty of potential so hoping he gets more games next year. As much as I rate Duncan I have too many mids so needed to trade some for forwards and Duncan is the one they wanted. My only consolation is I think Duncan will always be a better DTer than SC. But would not surprise me if he averages 100 next year. Hoping Stringer I average around 70 :)
I'll give you Shaun Higgins for Ablett if you're that in excess of mids and depleted of forwards :P
Quote from: Jukes on September 22, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
I'll give you Shaun Higgins for Ablett if you're that in excess of mids and depleted of forwards :P
Better off playing Ablett OOP
Quote from: Jukes on September 22, 2013, 02:50:55 PM
I'll give you Shaun Higgins for Ablett if you're that in excess of mids and depleted of forwards :P
hey last week you were willing to throw him away for a non playing ruck
i'll give you angus graham :P
Complications with the trade as New Delhi don't have pick 25 anymore...
Free for all for Duncan... go!
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 22, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
Complications with the trade as New Delhi don't have pick 25 anymore...
Free for all for Duncan... go!
I want him but don't know what I want to part with...
Mitch Duncan and pick 57
for
Jake Stringer and Ben Jacobs
CF to confirm.
Confirmed. For pretty much the same reasons as before haha
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 22, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
Complications with the trade as New Delhi don't have pick 25 anymore...
Free for all for Duncan... go!
Lots of time to offer... :P
Quote from: Master Q on September 22, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 22, 2013, 03:14:49 PM
Complications with the trade as New Delhi don't have pick 25 anymore...
Free for all for Duncan... go!
Lots of time to offer... :P
Well that was more of joke. Was always going to try and rectify the deal with LE first.
Berlin trade: Shane Edwards + Brandon Matera
London trade: Ben Reid + Ricky Petterd
I was interested in Ben Reid from day 1, as I think, along with Lachie Henderson, will be a handy def/for and another crucial part to team structure. I think brandon matera has a lot of potential, but I think as shown by my trade movements, I am getting a little impatient with young players averaging south of 70. I am taking a risk on Ricky, he finished the year off well and I am taking a gamble that he will get a promotion to the senior list and average a solid 80+ most likely in defense, who knows, maybe def/for? Shane Edwards is a little tough to say goodbye to, as he won my coaches award last year :'( I hope he gets success and game time with London and wish him all the best.
if anyone wants my Pre season draft pick 15, I will give it away for chips, I won't be using it. A pick upgrade by 1 will get you it.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Berlin trade: Shane Edwards + Brandon Matera
London trade: Ben Reid + Ricky Petterd
I was interested in Ben Reid from day 1, as I think, along with Lachie Henderson, will be a handy def/for and another crucial part to team structure. I think brandon matera has a lot of potential, but I think as shown by my trade movements, I am getting a little impatient with young players averaging south of 70. I am taking a risk on Ricky, he finished the year off well and I am taking a gamble that he will get a promotion to the senior list and average a solid 80+ most likely in defense, who knows, maybe def/for? Shane Edwards is a little tough to say goodbye to, as he won my coaches award last year :'( I hope he gets success and game time with London and wish him all the best.
I wanted Ricky but never got a response to my PM enquiring about him. :(
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 22, 2013, 07:13:28 PM
Berlin trade: Shane Edwards + Brandon Matera
London trade: Ben Reid + Ricky Petterd
I was interested in Ben Reid from day 1, as I think, along with Lachie Henderson, will be a handy def/for and another crucial part to team structure. I think brandon matera has a lot of potential, but I think as shown by my trade movements, I am getting a little impatient with young players averaging south of 70. I am taking a risk on Ricky, he finished the year off well and I am taking a gamble that he will get a promotion to the senior list and average a solid 80+ most likely in defense, who knows, maybe def/for? Shane Edwards is a little tough to say goodbye to, as he won my coaches award last year :'( I hope he gets success and game time with London and wish him all the best.
Confirmed as I think both Matera and Edwards can increase their output and allow flexibility in forward lane particularly with both Brown and Lynch nearing the end of their careers.
Right!
We have 4 coaches to go (I think - Master Q/Toga, Hellopplz, pothead, pyronerd/Sid)...
Of the 7 trades:
- 1 has failed
- 1 in limbo
- 5 have passed
But will wait for the other coaches to get back to me
Think I know which has failed
Coaches never tend to factor in that a player might only have 1-2 years left in his career and therefore getting a young player with potential is worth it...
I haven't heard from Ax in a while... Better get Dane to make his monthly appearance to respond to the trades on behalf of New York. :P
Done
Quote from: Nails on September 23, 2013, 03:09:43 PM
Think I know which has failed
Coaches never tend to factor in that a player might only have 1-2 years left in his career and therefore getting a young player with potential is worth it...
Um. I think I have it the other way round?
Out of curiosity os will you be sending out another vote for the other trades done yesterday or just wait till next week?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 23, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Out of curiosity os will you be sending out another vote for the other trades done yesterday or just wait till next week?
Next week :)
Quote from: ossie85 on September 23, 2013, 04:38:55 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 23, 2013, 04:38:09 PM
Out of curiosity os will you be sending out another vote for the other trades done yesterday or just wait till next week?
Next week :)
Alrighty :)
Quote from: ossie85 on September 23, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
We have 4 coaches to go (I think - Master Q/Toga, Hellopplz, pothead, pyronerd/Sid)...
Of the 7 trades:
- 1 has failed
- 1 in limbo
- 5 have passed
But will wait for the other coaches to get back to me
I am always one of the last :-X. Will get to it probably tonight after the Brownlow or tommorrow when I get back from Uni. Usually don't go to uni on Wed so that should be latest I send in the votes. I'm sure we have plenty of patient coaches here ;).
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 23, 2013, 07:34:24 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 23, 2013, 03:08:43 PM
We have 4 coaches to go (I think - Master Q/Toga, Hellopplz, pothead, pyronerd/Sid)...
Of the 7 trades:
- 1 has failed
- 1 in limbo
- 5 have passed
But will wait for the other coaches to get back to me
I am always one of the last :-X. Will get to it probably tonight after the Brownlow or tommorrow when I get back from Uni. Usually don't go to uni on Wed so that should be latest I send in the votes. I'm sure we have plenty of patient coaches here ;).
I'm getting pretty impatient :P
Pacific give: Jack Viney + Jackson Paine + pick 60
Berlin give: Andy Otten + Lindsay Thomas + pick 15
Purp to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on September 24, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Pacific give: Jack Viney + Jackson Paine + pick 60
Berlin give: Andy Otten + Lindsay Thomas + pick 15
Purp to confirm.
:o Lindsay is moving continents again.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 24, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on September 24, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Pacific give: Jack Viney + Jackson Paine + pick 60
Berlin give: Andy Otten + Lindsay Thomas + pick 15
Purp to confirm.
:o Lindsay is moving continents again.
He likes coconuts!
Quote from: Jayman on September 24, 2013, 07:43:09 PM
Pacific give: Jack Viney + Jackson Paine + pick 60
Berlin give: Andy Otten + Lindsay Thomas + pick 15
Purp to confirm.
Confirmed! After many, many weeks of discussion haha
A guy with an attitude, talent, work ethic and willingness to be great... is just impossible not to chase. Viney is this guy. He is a gun. He will be a star. Because a guy with those attributes is impossible not to turn into a star. Yes I am a melbourne supporter :P but the kid is fantastic.
Jackson Paine looked alright in 2012 and I saw he impressed in the VFL, but Q stick and Cloke have kept him out. I believe Paine will take over Q stick in time and be a solid forward.
Otten is expendable, especially with the additions of Petterd and Ben Reid coming, so I had an stack of defenders like him. I ama aware that he may have a def/for status, but so will Ben Reid and Lachie Henderson.
I hope Nigey doesn't mind me trading lindsay :-X I did say I'd take good care of him, and I did the exact opposite by trading him to Pacific..... ;) In all seriousness though, Lindsay should be a solid forward for Pacific and serve them well I reckon
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 25, 2013, 11:31:34 AM
I hope Nigey doesn't mind me trading lindsay :-X I did say I'd take good care of him, and I did the exact opposite by trading him to Pacific..... ;) In all seriousness though, Lindsay should be a solid forward for Pacific and serve them well I reckon
Not happy Jan. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRD5ukuMeRY)
:P
Haha, I kid! ;D
Cairo give: Shaun Grigg
Dublin give: Jed Anderson
Reason: Holz wanted an established mid and offered us Jed Anderson. Both of us at Cairo really like Anderson and felt we needed to get a little bit more youth into the team. Grigg's a solid high 80s/low 90s player while Anderson's shown and both clubs believe he can match or even better that in time.
Quote from: NigeyS on September 25, 2013, 02:10:47 PM
Cairo give: Shaun Grigg
Dublin give: Jed Anderson
Reason: Holz wanted an established mid and offered us Jed Anderson. Both of us at Cairo really like Anderson and felt we needed to get a little bit more youth into the team. Grigg's a solid high 80s/low 90s player while Anderson's shown and both clubs believe he can match or even better that in time.
confirmed
exactly what Nigel said ando will be a gun when mitchell hodge sewell etc.. leave but I need a soild utility and its a waste to have someone other than a mid there. Grigg a solid high 80s player having abit of a down year but i think he can go 85-90 hopefully next year.
Looking to trade our priority pick, Pick 20. Toga is away so make sure you PM with offers :)
Has everybody voted!?
Everyone voted as of last night! Thanks all....
Trades Passed Fully (2 votes or less)
* These trades passed, with or without my objection
Trade 18:
Beijing trade: Pick 77
Berlin trade: Alipate Carlile
Trade 20:
Cape Town trade: Blayne Wilson and Pick 37
Moscow trade: Dom Tyson
Trade 21:
Cape Town trade: Lee Spurr
Pacific trade: Sam Reid (Swans)
Trade 24:
New Delhi trade: Jarryd Blair, Terry Milera and Pick 25
Pacific trade: Shane Savage, Zach Williams, Daniel Talia and Pick 42
Trades Fully Rejected (9 votes or more)
* These trades passed, with or without my support
Nil
Trades Passed by the Coaches, but referred to me (3 votes or more)
Trade 23:
Dublin trade: Zac Clarke, Tom Lee and Pick 67
Moscow trade: Charlie Dixon and Robert Murphy
Verdict: PASS Another close one, but if we assume Clarke and Dixon are of roughly equal value (and I think they are). It comes down to Tom Lee and Pick 67 v Robert Murphy. Murphy is getting older, but a proven defender, while Lee is a developing forward who may or may not live up to potential. I think pick 67 is enough to any difference.
Trades Rejected by the Coaches, but referred to me (8 votes or less)
Trade 19:
Dublin trade: Jack Watts, Jack Darling, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill and Lachy Plowman
Cape Town trade: Jobe Watson and Lyndon Dunn
Verdict: I thought about this one for a while.... If I squint, I think it is a fair trade in some respects.... In others a bit dodgy. The reasons given by people basically say that Holzman is giving up too much. All in all, I call it inclusive vision and leave it to the people's call REJECTED
Trades Rejected for other reasons
Trade 22
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 16
Tokyo trade: Chris Judd and Pick 90
Why? This trade puts Tokyo under the 24,000 mark therefore rejected. This trade would have been referred to me (3 or more votes, less than 6), and I would have been very tentative to let this pass or not....
:D
flowering cow shower arse twat.
That ruins a lot of my plans. I don't get this rejection shower sometimes. Took us about 3 weeks to get to that deal.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2013, 08:32:15 AM
Trade 24:
New Delhi trade: Jarryd Blair, Terry Milera and Pick 25
Pacific trade: Shane Savage, Zach Williams, Daniel Talia and Pick 42
Pretty happy with this. Banking on a break out year for Savage
Quote from: Ricochet on September 26, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 26, 2013, 08:32:15 AM
Trade 24:
New Delhi trade: Jarryd Blair, Terry Milera and Pick 25
Pacific trade: Shane Savage, Zach Williams, Daniel Talia and Pick 42
Pretty happy with this. Banking on a break out year for Savage
Yep, Blair is a big loss to our fwd line but Sav and Williams love SC scoring!
Quote from: My Chumps on September 26, 2013, 10:07:09 AM
flowering cow shower arse twat.
That ruins a lot of my plans. I don't get this rejection shower sometimes. Took us about 3 weeks to get to that deal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VL4ei-RE3Nc
:'(
Dammit always forget to check the cap stuff.
So why did coaches vote against our Judd deal is he worth more then 16 or less not complaining just curious
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2013, 01:31:29 PM
So why did coaches vote against our Judd deal is he worth more then 16 or less not complaining just curious
Not that many voted against (3 or less), but the reasons were generally Buenos Aires has a very old list.
flower that tbh
Trade 22
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 16
Tokyo trade: Chris Judd and Pick 90
Pick 90
Pick 16
Our list doesn't get older, it just gets more depth
Our pick number still changes, it's still 1 youth player
Also our biggest problem this year was depth. Instead of worrying about potential "future issues" it'd fix an ACTUAL LEGITIMATE CURRENT PROBLEM.
Quote from: Nails on September 26, 2013, 01:47:15 PM
flower that tbh
Trade 22
Buenos Aires trade: Pick 16
Tokyo trade: Chris Judd and Pick 90
Pick 90
Pick 16
Our list doesn't get older, it just gets more depth
Our pick number still changes, it's still 1 youth player
Also our biggest problem this year was depth. Instead of worrying about potential "future issues" it'd fix an ACTUAL LEGITIMATE CURRENT PROBLEM.
Well, of course your list gets older - you have one more older player on your list, unless you are going to delist someone older than Judd you wouldn't otherwise delist.
But the trade wasn't voted down anyway
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 26, 2013, 01:31:29 PM
So why did coaches vote against our Judd deal is he worth more then 16 or less not complaining just curious
Pick 16 > Judd IMO
Prepare yourselves fellow coaches. A massive trade is on the cards 8)
Quote from: Master Q on September 26, 2013, 09:31:40 PM
Prepare yourselves fellow coaches. A massive trade is on the cards 8)
Bet you it gets rejected :P
Quote from: My Chumps on September 26, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
Quote from: Master Q on September 26, 2013, 09:31:40 PM
Prepare yourselves fellow coaches. A massive trade is on the cards 8)
Bet you it gets rejected :P
It's completely even. Only reason why people could reject it is out of jealousy :P
Just putting some feelers out. Gibbs could move at the right high price
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 26, 2013, 09:39:56 PM
Just putting some feelers out. Gibbs could move at the right high price
Are you selling him as a mid only, if not I will wait till he becomes a mid only.
Dublin trade: Jack Darling, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill and Lachy Plowman
Cape Town trade: Jobe Watson
this deal was close last time, so this time we have dropped off watts and dunn from the deal. I feel Watts is quite abit better than dunn so this balances up the trade.
Watts averaged 84 after the bye and with roos he should improve. Dunn did average well but he isnt that good a player so who knows what roos will do with him.
This'll be interesting..
What is Cape Town's reason for doing the trade?
Quote from: Master Q on September 27, 2013, 02:23:22 PM
What is Cape Town's reason for doing the trade?
last time the reason was
"Darling + Watts have a lot of potential, and it sures up my back and forward lines which need the most work. Lamb hasn't solidified his spot in Sydney's best 21 as of yet, but I'm sure he'll develop into a solid forward/mid. Hill looks handy, although I doubt he'll end up scoring much as he's more of an impact player. Plowman should be a solid scorer for years to come.
Saying goodbye to Watson is extremely difficult. He's been an excellent servent to the club since I picked him up in the third round back in the original draft (excellent drafting there MC ). But, with my current list, I don't expect to win the premiership within the next 2 years when Watson will be averaging 115+. I may aswell trade him while he is at his highest value."
Confirmed and what Holz said. I wanted Darling real bad.
So trade is darling for Watson ss other 3 wont ever be best 15 :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 27, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
So trade is darling for Watson ss other 3 wont ever be best 15 :P
Yep, I think so. :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 27, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
So trade is darling for Watson ss other 3 wont ever be best 15 :P
all 3 made my sqaud at some stage of the year.
Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2013, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 27, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
So trade is darling for Watson ss other 3 wont ever be best 15 :P
all 3 made my sqaud at some stage of the year.
When your team was pulling out 150s? :P
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Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2013, 03:58:30 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 27, 2013, 03:52:51 PM
So trade is darling for Watson ss other 3 wont ever be best 15 :P
all 3 made my sqaud at some stage of the year.
When your team was pulling out 150s? :P
i think lamb may have, or at the very least was on the emergency list.
he would probably make seouls starting 15 :P
Can't win with you guys can I? First I'm getting the better end of the deal now I'm getting the rough end of the deal and it's barley changed. Hill, Lamb and Plowman should all become 9O+ players s
Quote from: My Chumps on September 27, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Can't win with you guys can I? First I'm getting the better end of the deal now I'm getting the rough end of the deal and it's barley changed. Hill, Lamb and Plowman should all become 9O+ players s
I just asked a question. I didn't neg your trade before. Last time you were getting the better deal but nothing over the top.
I'm not going to give my opinion on the trade till it's vote has passed. I don't want my opinion effecting others ;)
A big trade here:
Beijing give: Taylor + Spangher + ND#41
Wellington give: ND #1 + Golby + Neade + Schneider
If my calculations are correct, this trade is fine as we gain points and Pot doesn't go under.
Taylor is a massive loss being probably our first or second most valuable player, still got a few years left in a great side but we need better depth and Toga and I feel like we are getting that in this deal.
We feel that Taylor is worth Pick 1 and Golby. Always a risk when picking a rookie but Golby makes up for that. Letting go of our best player for controlling Pick 1 and 2 is something I feel good about.
If Spangher could get games next year I think he'd be a great scorer, but we're prepared to give him up for someone like Neade, who might not be the best scorer but will be a serviceable forward in the future.
Adam Schneider balances out the trade points wise and will be another serviceable forward, even if it's only for a couple of years. We didn't really want to keep Pick #41, I think this is a fair swap.
Pot to confirm :)
Quote from: My Chumps on September 27, 2013, 05:38:47 PM
Can't win with you guys can I? First I'm getting the better end of the deal now I'm getting the rough end of the deal and it's barley changed. Hill, Lamb and Plowman should all become 9O+ players s
Well I actually voted for the original trade as i thought it was a much fairer trade ;)
Quote from: Master Q on September 27, 2013, 10:15:01 PM
A big trade here:
Beijing give: Taylor + Spangher + ND#41
Wellington give: ND #1 + Golby + Neade + Schneider
If my calculations are correct, this trade is fine as we gain points and Pot doesn't go under.
Taylor is a massive loss being probably our first or second most valuable player, still got a few years left in a great side but we need better depth and Toga and I feel like we are getting that in this deal.
We feel that Taylor is worth Pick 1 and Golby. Always a risk when picking a rookie but Golby makes up for that. Letting go of our best player for controlling Pick 1 and 2 is something I feel good about.
If Spangher could get games next year I think he'd be a great scorer, but we're prepared to give him up for someone like Neade, who might not be the best scorer but will be a serviceable forward in the future.
Adam Schneider balances out the trade points wise and will be another serviceable forward, even if it's only for a couple of years. We didn't really want to keep Pick #41, I think this is a fair swap.
Pot to confirm :)
confirmed
needed to bring in a premium player to really take control of our backline and although pick 1 could be a big loss we needed immediate improvement and with Harry Taylor we should achieve that, if spangher manages to break into the hawks lineup next year he should be a serviceable player and capable of some good scores while golby is a fairly big loss i think the right price was paid.
Really happy with this trade, think both parties have done well from it :)
Massive win for Beijing!
Quote from: elephants on September 28, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
Massive win for Beijing!
Well we have to give up our best player in the process :P
Quote from: Master Q on September 28, 2013, 01:43:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 28, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
Massive win for Beijing!
Well we have to give up our best player in the process :P
Ok so kreuz is cheap than ;)
Pick 4 for him sounds fair.
That trade is about as bad as it gets
Golby will average just as much as Taylor next season.
No trade feedback in here guys.....
Quote from: Nails on September 28, 2013, 03:05:53 PM
That trade is about as bad as it gets
Golby will average just as much as Taylor next season.
And Johncock will play on next year?
Just comparing this trade period to last years one and this years is seriously dead! By this point last year 77 trades had already been announced, whereas we have only had 30 this year!
People must be very happy with their teams I guess...
Yeah that's a pretty big drop
We still have pick 5 we want to trade for either a premo defender or a premo ruck
And Judd is on the table
Yeah still 0 trades from the Wolves and tbh haven't been very proactive...my team isn't bad I think I've just become attached to my players by now and not giving them away cheaply.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Just comparing this trade period to last years one and this years is seriously dead! By this point last year 77 trades had already been announced, whereas we have only had 30 this year!
People must be very happy with their teams I guess...
Don't blame me, Ive already posted more trades than I did last period :P
I guess it's because I'm not happy with my team.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 06:08:51 PM
Just comparing this trade period to last years one and this years is seriously dead! By this point last year 77 trades had already been announced, whereas we have only had 30 this year!
People must be very happy with their teams I guess...
I'm doing my part 7 of the 30 trades are mine.
Probably won't do many next year.
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Yeah why won't you give me Wingard and Lobbe? :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
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Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Yeah why won't you give me Wingard and Lobbe? :P
They wouldn't even give me Liam Jones :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Yeah why won't you give me Wingard and Lobbe? :P
They wouldn't even give me Liam Jones :P
@CF :P
@Jb : cuz he will be quite a good player if he can actually build his fitness
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Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Yeah why won't you give me Wingard and Lobbe? :P
They wouldn't even give me Liam Jones :P
@CF :P
@Jb : cuz he will be quite a good player if he can actually build his fitness
I don't like you whispering in the ear of HP on what trades he should be doing... :P
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 09:00:53 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:58:55 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 08:54:28 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:44:17 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 01, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 01, 2013, 08:16:34 PM
it's a mix of some happiness with current sides and also a mix of finding it hard to either get what is needed without giving up what is needed or also about catching up with some coaches making it harder
Or dealing with PNL where they arent willing to trade any of their players :P
Everyone seems to say that :p
Yeah why won't you give me Wingard and Lobbe? :P
They wouldn't even give me Liam Jones :P
@CF :P
@Jb : cuz he will be quite a good player if he can actually build his fitness
I don't like you whispering in the ear of HP on what trades he should be doing... :P
yeah i seem to always cop the blame :P
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Yeah, but I have a killer forward line now :P
Hawkins, Daisy, Higgins, Cameron, Jetta, Garlett, Reid, Smedts, (possibly) Darling and Lamb.
So yeah, if you want forwards come chat to me :P
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Yeah, but I have a killer forward line now :P
Hawkins, Daisy, Higgins, Cameron, Jetta, Garlett, Reid, Smedts, (possibly) Darling and Lamb.
So yeah, if you want forwards come chat to me :P
Yeah, I'd like forwards. :P
Quote from: roo boys! on October 01, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
Yeah still 0 trades from the Wolves and tbh haven't been very proactive...my team isn't bad I think I've just become attached to my players by now and not giving them away cheaply.
Same with us and PNL, we have grown attatched to many players! And don't think we need to do too many trades, better than having a full list changeover every trade period so probably why the trades are down this year.
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 01, 2013, 10:24:40 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 01, 2013, 06:17:23 PM
Yeah still 0 trades from the Wolves and tbh haven't been very proactive...my team isn't bad I think I've just become attached to my players by now and not giving them away cheaply.
Same with us and PNL, we have grown attatched to many players! And don't think we need to do too many trades, better than having a full list changeover every trade period so probably why the trades are down this year.
Beat me to it.
I guess it took the majority of coaches 2 seasons to get their list to a state of which they are happy with. That being said, we are willing to trade with anyone :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Yeah, but I have a killer forward line now :P
Hawkins, Daisy, Higgins, Cameron, Jetta, Garlett, Reid, Smedts, (possibly) Darling and Lamb.
So yeah, if you want forwards come chat to me :P
Yeah, I'd like forwards. :P
What do you have to offer my kind sir?
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Yeah, but I have a killer forward line now :P
Hawkins, Daisy, Higgins, Cameron, Jetta, Garlett, Reid, Smedts, (possibly) Darling and Lamb.
So yeah, if you want forwards come chat to me :P
Yeah, I'd like forwards. :P
What do you have to offer my kind sir?
PM me champ... or should I say Chump? :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 11:10:18 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 11:08:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:56:58 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:53:34 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 01, 2013, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 01, 2013, 09:46:45 PM
Quote from: Jukes on October 01, 2013, 09:18:21 PM
Here's a trade for y'all
Moscow give: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town give: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
MC to confirm
Confirmed ya'll.
Higgins is a proven scorer and if he can put together 18 games a season he'll be a valuable pick up. Sexton shows a lot of potential and I hope he'll become quite the player. Dunn is probably my best defender (how sad is that?) but gotta give something to get something.
Have you given away half your starting backline? :P
Yeah, but I have a killer forward line now :P
Hawkins, Daisy, Higgins, Cameron, Jetta, Garlett, Reid, Smedts, (possibly) Darling and Lamb.
So yeah, if you want forwards come chat to me :P
Yeah, I'd like forwards. :P
What do you have to offer my kind sir?
PM me champ... or should I say Chump? :P
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Apologies if I've missed anyone, but I think 5 coaches remain to vote this week...
Hellopplz, Maca24, Nails, pyronerd/Sid and roo boys!
Any trades passed/failed yet? :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 02, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
Any trades passed/failed yet? :)
I'll put it this way --> all trades could theoretically pass or fail if the remaining 5 coaches vote certain ways and you haven't paid me a bribe yet :P
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 02, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
Any trades passed/failed yet? :)
I'll put it this way --> all trades could theoretically pass or fail if the remaining 5 coaches vote certain ways and you haven't paid me a bribe yet :P
Make it happen
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'Tis quiet on the trading front :-\ but Pacific are keen to get involved! Here is an updated list of all our players.
Will be moved for cheap: Sam Gibson, Chris Dawes, Adam Oxley, Matt Jaensch, Ahmed Saad, Terry Milera, Todd Banfield, Nathan Stark, David Ellard, Tom Simpkin, Jack Frost, Matthew Watson, Nathan Blee.
On the table - will consider any offer: Tom Nicholls, Ben Howlett, Matt de Boer, Luke Delaney, Jordan Lisle, Luke Brown, Jason Tutt, Anthony Miles, Jon Simpkin, Harry Cunningham,
Have a high price tag - would prefer to keep but moveable: *Tom Rockliff*, Tom Mitchell, Jack Martin, Tomas Bugg, Curtly Hampton, Claye Beams, Tim Mohr, Sam Blease, Rhys Stanley, Adam Tomlinson
*Rockliff is available, but would need a captain option in return.*
Recently traded in - don't want to move on, but could if you really want them: Jarryd Blair, Lee Spurr, Andy Otten, Lindsay Thomas
Good luck getting these guys: Mitch Grigg, Dean Terlich, Matty Leuenberger, Jarrod Witts, Billy Longer, Jeremy Howe, Jamie Elliot
PM ME IF YO KEEN!
Still waiting impatiently on Nicholls ::)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2013, 10:56:22 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 02, 2013, 10:47:40 AM
Any trades passed/failed yet? :)
I'll put it this way --> all trades could theoretically pass or fail if the remaining 5 coaches vote certain ways and you haven't paid me a bribe yet :P
shower I don't get paid till tomorrow...
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Still waiting impatiently on Nicholls ::)
I'm still waiting too dude. Was working on a deal with AFEV but he is inactive at the moment. So want to make a call when he comes back. Hopefully isn't too long :)
PM me your best offer again please, Kb.
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Still waiting impatiently on Nicholls ::)
I'm still waiting too dude. Was working on a deal with AFEV but he is inactive at the moment. So want to make a call when he comes back. Hopefully isn't too long :)
PM me your best offer again please, Kb.
Hasn't been heard from in nearly 3 weeks, we could all be waiting a while. :-X
Anybody willing to give up their first round pick for 2-3 second round picks?
Quote from: Jukes on October 02, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Anybody willing to give up their first round pick for 2-3 second round picks?
When people realise or even consider the fact that the talent drops off after about 20-25, you're going to get little to no takers unless people really want a stack of youngsters.
Ele, have exceeded the 20 PM limit this hour ::) heading offline now too, so will reply tomorrow at some stage. Sorry for the inconvenience Phants, but thought I'd let ya know :)
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Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Still waiting impatiently on Nicholls ::)
I'm still waiting too dude. Was working on a deal with AFEV but he is inactive at the moment. So want to make a call when he comes back. Hopefully isn't too long :)
PM me your best offer again please, Kb.
Hasn't been heard from in nearly 3 weeks, we could all be waiting a while. :-X
Have consulted the lesser known coach of NY, pyro :P a deal is close. Stay tuned!
Sorry KB, but this offer from NY is too good to refuse, I mean we get another Crow :D would PM you to inform you we're accepting this offer but the flowering 20PM limit won't let me :P I'm sure you'll find another ruck, but we have to take this deal!
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls
New York give: Josh Jenkins + NAT 8
pyro to confirm.
Thought 5+Hampson was pretty similar
Carlton will most likely trade Hampson to a club that needs him
New York have Giles and Pyke already lol
Well I don't think Giles is going to be doing much anymore.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
Thought 5+Hampson was pretty similar
Carlton will most likely trade Hampson to a club that needs him
New York have Giles and Pyke already lol
KB, Giles has Mumford now and Pyke is 30..... ::)
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Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 04:48:39 PM
Thought 5+Hampson was pretty similar
Carlton will most likely trade Hampson to a club that needs him
New York have Giles and Pyke already lol
KB, Giles has Mumford now and Pyke is 30..... ::)
yes i know ::)
Looking to offload
M. Clarke, D. Fletcher, T. Williams, J. Hutchins, C. Mooney, N. Joyce, C. Gault, F. McInnes, S. Menegola
Will trade for the right price
J. Frawley, S. May, K. Hardingham, J. Allen, R. Griffen, L. Adams, C. Sinclair, J. Ceglar, J. Mellington, G. Burbury, E. Wallace
Hard to get, but could still be persuaded to trade
H. Shaw, L. Dunn, S. Docherty, B. Wilson, J. Hombsch, S. Colquhoun, C. Ward, A. Monfries, J. Thomas, Z. Clarke, T. Lee, T. Vickery,
Unobtainable
R. Tambling, J. O'Meara, D. Heppell, D. Martin, P. Seedsman, N. Naitanui,
Double super secret unobtainable
J. Hogan
Demand for positions
Defenders: 9/10
Midfielders: 0/10
Ruckmen: 0/10
Forwards: 7.5/10
Current Draft Picks: 10, 14, 31, 33, 37, 53, 67, 89
Will be available to trade if a decent offer is presented.
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2013, 04:27:49 PM
Ele, have exceeded the 20 PM limit this hour ::) heading offline now too, so will reply tomorrow at some stage. Sorry for the inconvenience Phants, but thought I'd let ya know :)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 02, 2013, 04:06:18 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2013, 04:03:09 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 02, 2013, 11:18:56 AM
Still waiting impatiently on Nicholls ::)
I'm still waiting too dude. Was working on a deal with AFEV but he is inactive at the moment. So want to make a call when he comes back. Hopefully isn't too long :)
PM me your best offer again please, Kb.
Hasn't been heard from in nearly 3 weeks, we could all be waiting a while. :-X
Have consulted the lesser known coach of NY, pyro :P a deal is close. Stay tuned!
you mean he actually done something besides say go ask AX?
maybe he just dislikes dealing with us at PNL :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 02, 2013, 04:33:51 PM
Sorry KB, but this offer from NY is too good to refuse, I mean we get another Crow :D would PM you to inform you we're accepting this offer but the flowering 20PM limit won't let me :P I'm sure you'll find another ruck, but we have to take this deal!
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls
New York give: Josh Jenkins + NAT 8
pyro to confirm.
confirmed ;)
Well Daz if you actually offered a trade, and weren't so stingy, maybe we'd get somewhere :P
How far are we from seeing last weeks trade results? :)
Quote from: elephants on October 03, 2013, 05:47:30 PM
How far are we from seeing last weeks trade results? :)
Probably tommorrow after I vote tonight!
#sackHP
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Quote from: Master Q on October 03, 2013, 08:56:56 PM
#sackHP
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#StandbyBunny
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#nohomo
#hurryupHP ;) #sackingisabitharsh :P
I thought it was funny lol
#banter
I'm all for some #banter but more than #banter I like #traderesults :P
The people have spoken!
I will vote on Saturday.
Maybe if you spent the same time voting as talking about when you will vote then people mighten complain as much ;)
I don't mind people complaining, I like testing patience of some people :D.
Congrats one 1000 cheers HP! Now don't make me boo you :P
Wait so have you voted or haven't you HP? I am confused...
He hasn't yet
Maca24, Nails and pyronerd/Sid have not voted yet. They have until next Monday guys, sorry for the wait....
Maca hasn't been online since Saturday so may be a while before he votes. Don't know why the other 2 haven't voted since they are online quite often!
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2013, 11:20:58 AM
Maca hasn't been online since Saturday so may be a while before he votes. Don't know why the other 2 haven't voted since they are online quite often!
I haven't seen or heard from Ax in a while, but Dane's around all the time on chat. And yeah, Maca's gone missing too.
Nails has voted now...
So with 2 left to vote any passed?
the delay is quite troublesome as i have deals i want to do but i need to wait on the pending deals first.
It's crazy, what with only 5 months to next season :P
No write up, because I'm busy...
But Trades 25 and 28 will pass no matter what, Trade 30 will fail no matter what.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 04, 2013, 12:36:40 PM
It's crazy, what with only 5 months to next season :P
No write up, because I'm busy...
But Trades 25 and 28 will pass no matter what, Trade 30 will fail no matter what.
:o ;D
I'm not gonna say anything other than the fallout from Trade 30 failing
might be interesting. :-X
Yay my trade passed :)
pyronerd votes...
And Trade 26 also goes through! I'm also going to give the ok to Trade 27 also.....
(By the way, haven't checked if these trades pass cap restrictions yet either)
For Trade 29......
Rejected by the coaches, but referred to me (6-8 votes).... My decision being to let it PASS. Overturning it because it is a 4-1 trade, Cape Town still have a decent midfield (Cotchin, JPK, Cooney, O'Keefe) and need other positions more....
So trade 27 passed? :)
Very very surprised that Trade 29 passed but I'm not overly bothered either way.
Big win for Holz giving up one decent kid for an elite-premo :o
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Very very surprised that Trade 29 passed but I'm not overly bothered either way.
Big win for Holz giving up one decent kid for an elite-premo :o
is the decent kid your refering too, the guy you have been chasing from me the whole time you have been a head coach ;)
Quote from: Holzman on October 04, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Very very surprised that Trade 29 passed but I'm not overly bothered either way.
Big win for Holz giving up one decent kid for an elite-premo :o
is the decent kid your refering too, the guy you have been chasing from me the whole time you have been a head coach ;)
Yes he is, point still stands though, you under-paid massively for a proven gun :o
Quote from: ossie85 on October 04, 2013, 01:12:08 PM
For Trade 29......
Rejected by the coaches, but referred to me (6-8 votes).... My decision being to let it PASS. Overturning it because it is a 4-1 trade, Cape Town still have a decent midfield (Cotchin, JPK, Cooney, O'Keefe) and need other positions more....
Thank you very much Ossie.
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 02:01:21 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 04, 2013, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 01:53:34 PM
Very very surprised that Trade 29 passed but I'm not overly bothered either way.
Big win for Holz giving up one decent kid for an elite-premo :o
is the decent kid your refering too, the guy you have been chasing from me the whole time you have been a head coach ;)
Yes he is, point still stands though, you under-paid massively for a proven gun :o
I'm happy because the trade passed, but I just don't understand things sometimes :P
Before it got blocked because Holz was giving up too much, and this time it nearly got blocked because I was giving up too much, when we dropped a player from each side of the original trade.
Ok trade 30 passed?
someone needs to explain to me how Harry Taylor and Spangher are worth Golby, Neade, Schneider and PICK 1
:o
Yeh pick #1 isn't worth Taylor + Spangher ::)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2013, 02:53:41 PM
Ok trade 30 passed?
someone needs to explain to me how Harry Taylor and Spangher are worth Golby, Neade, Schneider and PICK 1
:o
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2013, 02:55:07 PM
Yeh pick #1 isn't worth Taylor + Spangher ::)
::)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 04, 2013, 12:36:40 PM
Trade 30 will fail no matter what.
Ok i didn't see that comment obviously
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 04, 2013, 03:04:06 PM
Ok i didn't see that comment obviously
Haha all good, it was on the page before, didn't know you missed it.
yeah i even looked on the front page to see which ones were red first but they not been done yet
What was the reasoning against our trade?
Taylor > Pick 1 + Neade
Pick 41 and Spangher = Golby
Schneider is worthless...
How is Spangher and pick 41 equal to Golby?
Pick 1 > Taylor
And sorry Q, but Harry Taylor is 27 and has never averaged over 95 :-X
I wouldn't say he's equal to pick 1 and Neade.
Haha there is no way you can argue that trade is fair :P
Didn't know it was comedy night
Quote from: Ricochet on October 04, 2013, 07:18:49 PM
Pick 1 > Taylor
Really? Prove to me the rookie we'll take with Pick 1 will average 80. You can't. You can't prove he'll average anything, it's a risk. Taylor just turned 27 and scored 125 or more 4 times this season at an average of 94. Taylor can easily play till he's 30/31 and could play beyond that. You guys are underrating Taylor.
Spangher is 4 years older than Golby, if Spangher can get games I could see them averaging the same or Golby a little bit higher. 41 is a decent pick.
But I'm not going to argue - where can we make the trade more even without losing points.
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Anything can happen though Vinny. You can't predict anything to do with rookies.
Fair enough! Yeah there is uncertainty but the thing with Taylor he is a very proven player but in fantasy, he isn't that proven at all. :-\
Haha I am not a coach though so won't be voting or whatever. Just an assistant chipping in :)
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Mark Hutchings was taken with pick 89 last year, so potential to get good players anywhere in the draft ;)
If I had had more than 2 picks in last years draft I would have picked him up well before then...
Haha Q, I think even you know now this trade is ridiculous :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Mark Hutchings was taken with pick 89 last year, so potential to get good players anywhere in the draft ;)
If I had had more than 2 picks in last years draft I would have picked him up well before then...
I thought I took him with 81? ???
Regardless...
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Haha yes occasionally there is superstars hidden. :P
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 08:10:18 PM
Haha yes occasionally there is superstars known about by only the cleverest of the drafters. :P
Fixed. :P ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 08:07:01 PM
Haha Q, I think even you know now this trade is ridiculous :P
Toga, Pot and I didn't.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Mark Hutchings was taken with pick 89 last year, so potential to get good players anywhere in the draft ;)
If I had had more than 2 picks in last years draft I would have picked him up well before then...
I thought I took him with 81? ???
Regardless...
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Nope it was 89 ;)
If I had a pick in round 3 or 4 I would have picked him up though. Selected him in euros for the bison with pick 49, and my original 3rd round pick in the world draft was pick 53, but ended up trading away all my picks except for 2...
Hutchings really doesn't suit your team Nige ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2013, 08:28:08 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 04, 2013, 08:06:41 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:59:04 PM
Pick 41 is far from a solid pick in this years draft.
Solid picks finish around the 25-30 mark this year.
Mark Hutchings was taken with pick 89 last year, so potential to get good players anywhere in the draft ;)
If I had had more than 2 picks in last years draft I would have picked him up well before then...
I thought I took him with 81? ???
Regardless...
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Nope it was 89 ;)
If I had a pick in round 3 or 4 I would have picked him up though. Selected him in euros for the bison with pick 49, and my original 3rd round pick in the world draft was pick 53, but ended up trading away all my picks except for 2...
:o
We didn't even have a pick until Round 3 from memory.
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 08:34:08 PM
Hutchings really doesn't suit your team Nige ;)
Um, yeah... good try there elephants. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on January 01, 2013, 05:24:03 PM
With our second last pick, Cairo will take:
Mark Hutchings
Mature aged recruit for the Eagles, runner-up in the Sandover Medal and West Perth's best and fairest. Will be tough for him to break into the Eagles' midfield though.
:o The memories. Such a bad call in that last sentence though, must have been high. :P
Nah he's no good. I hear we could delist him.
Give him to NDT just to be safe :)
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
Nah he's no good. I hear we could delist him.
Give him to NDT just to be safe :)
Go home Trunks, you are drunk.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
Nah he's no good. I hear we could delist him.
Give him to NDT just to be safe :)
Go home Trunks, you are drunk.
;)
Taylor has been 27 for months
He's 28 during next season... old fart
Golby will average the same if not more than Taylor next season.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 09:44:38 PM
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Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 09:35:06 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 04, 2013, 09:31:37 PM
Nah he's no good. I hear we could delist him.
Give him to NDT just to be safe :)
Go home Trunks, you are drunk.
;)
All that assignmenting has driven you loco.
Yes, I need to make an official complaint hahaha.
Quote from: Nails on October 04, 2013, 11:36:09 PM
Taylor has been 27 for months
He's 28 during next season... old fart
Golby will average the same if not more than Taylor next season.
Thats a 20 point increase by Golby. Surely you'll be starting him in SC if thats the case :o
Oh, so being 27 means you are an old fart? What is Fletcher then?
Quote from: Master Q on October 04, 2013, 11:42:34 PM
Oh, so being 27 means you are an old fart? What is Fletcher then?
Pretty much yep. I've only got 7 players in my squad of 46 who are 27 or over :P
Hahaha Nige ^
Perfect mix between old and youth ;)
It's just that he's 27 and he's never averaged over 95 Q :-\
I mean, if you look at who was drafted at number one in the 10 drafts before 2011 you get these players:
David Swallow - highest average 79 but still only 20
Tom Scully - highest average 79 but still only 21
Jack Watts - highest average 86 and is still considered a bust of a number 1 pick. Still only 22
Matthew Kreuzer - highest average 97
Bryce Gibbs - highest average 108
Marc Murphy - highest average 118
Brett Deledio - highest average 116
Adam Cooney - highest average 106
Brendan Goddard - highest average 130
Luke Hodge - highest average 118
Nick Riewoldt - highest average 117
So only the most recent three have averaged less than Harry Taylor, and they've all got time to grow. Add this to the fact that Tom Boyd is touted as one of the best prospects ever seen, and I think you've got someone worth more than Taylor.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
Jack Watts - highest average 86 and is still considered a bust of a number 1 pick. Still only 22
I still dispute it :P the guy is going to be star! Just you watch ;)
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
It's just that he's 27 and he's never averaged over 95 Q :-\
I mean, if you look at who was drafted at number one in the 10 drafts before 2011 you get these players:
David Swallow - highest average 79 but still only 20
Tom Scully - highest average 79 but still only 21
Jack Watts - highest average 86 and is still considered a bust of a number 1 pick. Still only 22
Matthew Kreuzer - highest average 97
Bryce Gibbs - highest average 108
Marc Murphy - highest average 118
Brett Deledio - highest average 116
Adam Cooney - highest average 106
Brendan Goddard - highest average 130
Luke Hodge - highest average 118
Nick Riewoldt - highest average 117
So only the most recent three have averaged less than Harry Taylor, and they've all got time to grow. Add this to the fact that Tom Boyd is touted as one of the best prospects ever seen, and I think you've got someone worth more than Taylor.
Taylor averaged 94 this season, stop using "he's never averaged over 95" :P
Taylor also has more time to improve his average... Boyd may be an awesome prospect, may not be a SC one. Like I said, you can't predict what rookies will score!
You can't really predict what anyone will score, us using he has only averaged over 90 once is a fair argument showing that he isn't that proven in fantasy. You can say anyone has time to improve especially Boyd. Plus you don't have to get Boyd. There are plenty of other gun midfielders that will do well in Fantasy.
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 05, 2013, 06:52:46 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
Jack Watts - highest average 86 and is still considered a bust of a number 1 pick. Still only 22
I still dispute it :P the guy is going to be star! Just you watch ;)
Hahah I agree, he will prove everyone wrong and average 100+ one year at least under Roos. He is a freak 8)
Quote from: vinny on October 05, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
You can't really predict what anyone will score, us using he has only averaged over 90 once is a fair argument showing that he isn't that proven in fantasy. You can say anyone has time to improve especially Boyd. Plus you don't have to get Boyd. There are plenty of other gun midfielders that will do well in Fantasy.
In his six seasons for Geelong, he's averaged 80 or more four times, with this last season at 94. Then you consider that there aren't many premium defenders around, let alone ones with his high roof.
He's proven himself to me, and I think he has to the majority of other coaches, seeing as they've told Toga and I that they are interested in him and one stage or another... *whistles*
Dane Swan is good and other coaches have been interested, doesn't mean I can sell him for 5 premos in return.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 12:09:20 AM
It's just that he's 27 and he's never averaged over 95 Q :-\
I mean, if you look at who was drafted at number one in the 10 drafts before 2011 you get these players:
David Swallow - highest average 79 but still only 20
Tom Scully - highest average 79 but still only 21
Jack Watts - highest average 86 and is still considered a bust of a number 1 pick. Still only 22
Matthew Kreuzer - highest average 97
Bryce Gibbs - highest average 108
Marc Murphy - highest average 118
Brett Deledio - highest average 116
Adam Cooney - highest average 106
Brendan Goddard - highest average 130
Luke Hodge - highest average 118
Nick Riewoldt - highest average 117
So only the most recent three have averaged less than Harry Taylor, and they've all got time to grow. Add this to the fact that Tom Boyd is touted as one of the best prospects ever seen, and I think you've got someone worth more than Taylor.
This!
There is almost a 100% chance that pick #1 will be a star
A lot less risk than any other picks
I don't think anyone is debating whether or not Taylor is a good player. I think the issue is he is so far from being worth Pick 1 + Golby :P
Quote from: Master Q on October 05, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: vinny on October 05, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
You can't really predict what anyone will score, us using he has only averaged over 90 once is a fair argument showing that he isn't that proven in fantasy. You can say anyone has time to improve especially Boyd. Plus you don't have to get Boyd. There are plenty of other gun midfielders that will do well in Fantasy.
In his six seasons for Geelong, he's averaged 80 or more four times, with this last season at 94. Then you consider that there aren't many premium defenders around, let alone ones with his high roof.
He's proven himself to me, and I think he has to the majority of other coaches, seeing as they've told Toga and I that they are interested in him and one stage or another... *whistles*
If he's soo good why do you want to trade him? :p ::)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 04, 2013, 08:53:55 AM
Maca24, Nails and pyronerd/Sid have not voted yet. They have until next Monday guys, sorry for the wait....
And people just wanted to sack me :P.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 05, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 05, 2013, 11:03:49 AM
Quote from: vinny on October 05, 2013, 10:58:01 AM
You can't really predict what anyone will score, us using he has only averaged over 90 once is a fair argument showing that he isn't that proven in fantasy. You can say anyone has time to improve especially Boyd. Plus you don't have to get Boyd. There are plenty of other gun midfielders that will do well in Fantasy.
In his six seasons for Geelong, he's averaged 80 or more four times, with this last season at 94. Then you consider that there aren't many premium defenders around, let alone ones with his high roof.
He's proven himself to me, and I think he has to the majority of other coaches, seeing as they've told Toga and I that they are interested in him and one stage or another... *whistles*
If he's soo good why do you want to trade him? :p ::)
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Because he's not what we need ::)
Change of pace, a trade!
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 60
Toronto trade: Dayne Zorko
Reason:
Well, there is about 6 months that separate these two in age, less than 1 point in average ppg, and if I had either one of them, I'd play them in the forward line. But in this case, Toronto gain a more than handy def/for, and I gain a M/F that I reckon can increase his average easier than Henderson. A risk! But one that I am willing to take.
Also, I have always liked Zorko :P ripper last name
very big chance Zorko will be forward only next year :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
very big chance Zorko will be forward only next year :P
Doubt that will phase him since he said he would play him forward
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
very big chance Zorko will be forward only next year :P
Doubt that will phase him since he said he would play him forward
Forward only? Sweet! :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 06, 2013, 08:09:29 PM
very big chance Zorko will be forward only next year :P
Doubt that will phase him since he said he would play him forward
Yeah was just saying because he said he was gaining a M/F
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 06, 2013, 08:02:40 PM
Change of pace, a trade!
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson + Pick 60
Toronto trade: Dayne Zorko
Reason:
Well, there is about 6 months that separate these two in age, less than 1 point in average ppg, and if I had either one of them, I'd play them in the forward line. But in this case, Toronto gain a more than handy def/for, and I gain a M/F that I reckon can increase his average easier than Henderson. A risk! But one that I am willing to take.
Also, I have always liked Zorko :P ripper last name
CONFIRMED
Finally a trade from Toronto haha.
Reasoning: As Purps said very similar scoring players thus far and both quite popular with their respective coaches, after trading so hard for Zorko last year coming of 100 ave in his debut year it's hard to give him up, but in my eyes basically the outcome of this trade hinges on what role Leppa plays the Zork in next year. Hopefully for me midfield time is minimal haha. The pick is just due to my 9 retirements/delistings so far so may have to look to add depth in the International Draft.
Nine retirements and delistings? That's cute :P
Still no Maca... but here is my official write-up
Trades Passed Fully (2 votes or less)
* These trades passed, with or without my objection
Trade 25:
Sao Paulo trade: Mitch Duncan and Pick 57
New Delhi trade: Jake Stringer and Ben Jacobs
Trade 26:
Berlin trade: Shane Edwards and Brandon Matera
London trade: Ben Reid and Ricky Petterd
Trade 27:
Pacific trade: Jack Viney, Jackson Paine and Pick 60
Berlin trade: Andy Otten, Lindsay Thomas and Pick 15
Trade 28:
Cairo trade: Shaun Grigg
Dublin trade: Jed Anderson
Trades Fully Rejected (9 votes or more)
* These trades passed, with or without my support
Beijing trade: Harry Taylor, Matt Spangher and Pick 41
Wellington trade: Mitch Golby, Jake Neade, Adam Schneider and Pick 1
Reasons include:
- Wellington giving up too much, that the #1 pick is very valuable. Suggested another fringe player/2nd round draft pick given be Beijing.
- Taylor has limited future
- #1 pick and Taylor seen as roughly equivalent (if not #1 worth more than Taylor), others seem like overkill
- Golby looks to be a future premium
Trades Passed by the Coaches, but referred to me (3 votes or more)
Nil
Trades Rejected by the Coaches, but referred to me (8 votes or less)
Trade 29:
Dublin trade: Jack Darling, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill and Lachy Plowman
Cape Town trade: Jobe Watson
VERDICT: PASS Consitent with both teams trading patterns. Cape Town and Dublin still have depth in the places out they trade, and Cape Town receive valuable back-up. So will let this one through..
Trades Rejected for other reasons
Nil
Voting update....
Quick off the mark with 10 clubs voting in only 1 day! No huge rush but the coaches yet to vote are:
MasterQ/Toga, elephants, Hellopplz, Maca24*, Nails, pothead, pyronerd/Sid, Ringo
Oz
Good start everyone! Keep em coming in
If maca doesn't vote does he get sacked? What a way to go! :o
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 06:06:56 PM
If maca doesn't vote does he get sacked? What a way to go! :o
Hasn't been on since the 28th. The waiting game just got all the more interesting.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 06:06:56 PM
If maca doesn't vote does he get sacked? What a way to go! :o
I said this to Rico this morning! Mental!
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
So why have oll the teams he does? That makes no sense, no excuse imo
It would be very harsh to sack maca, reckon other punishments maybe? Membership points, premiership points....
Player delisting a sounds good lok
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
Let's cross that bridge IF we need to then
More then likely he will be on in next few days
Quote from: ossie85 on October 08, 2013, 08:32:54 PM
It would be very harsh to sack maca, reckon other punishments maybe? Membership points, premiership points....
Let's just cross that bridge if it comes to that. I'm thinking maybe Suns not allowed to participate in finals next year? ;)
It's weird because he hasn't logged on here since the 28th, but he has been on the TerranX site then, posting a pick on October 4.
Only concern is you say it would be very harsh to sack maca, but if there rules were stated that if you miss 2 voting periods you will be sacked then it would be a bit weak to backpedal on that. Don't know if you did state that was the rule or if I was just making that up, but if I missed 2 trade periods and that was the rule I would understand getting sacked.
Obviously I don't want him sacked though as we have a great rivalry :) Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who are willing to take over the team haha ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
No offense, but year 12 exams are not very hard to get through. Doing a masters at uni is far more consuming than year 12, trust me ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
No offense, but year 12 exams are not very hard to get through. Doing a masters at uni is far more consuming than year 12, trust me ;)
Haha I know and don't doubt that for a moment... That said, let's just say that my Year 12 exam experience wasn't fruitful. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
No offense, but year 12 exams are not very hard to get through. Doing a masters at uni is far more consuming than year 12, trust me ;)
Haha I know and don't doubt that for a moment... That said, let's just say that my Year 12 exam experience wasn't fruitful. :P
You're not filling me with great excitement heading into final exams guys :-\ :P
Yr 12 exams were fun! #Maccasrun
I worked out his punishment! He should trade all his players to NDT to get us over the minimum points cap.
Is Macas run coming to an end :o
Sorry, but I liked the joke :P
Quote from: elephants on October 08, 2013, 09:23:13 PM
Yr 12 exams were fun! #Maccasrun
I worked out his punishment! He should trade all his players to NDT to get us over the minimum points cap.
Dat moment when trading
all of his players brings him under the minimum cap and you over the maximum cap. :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Only concern is you say it would be very harsh to sack maca, but if there rules were stated that if you miss 2 voting periods you will be sacked then it would be a bit weak to backpedal on that. Don't know if you did state that was the rule or if I was just making that up, but if I missed 2 trade periods and that was the rule I would understand getting sacked.
Obviously I don't want him sacked though as we have a great rivalry :) Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who are willing to take over the team haha ;)
I covered myself there (I really need to update the official rule book btw) but when making the rules for this thread I said "might" not "will". But I can't find that... I know I did somewhere!
I found year 12 exams harder than first year uni to be honest!
Quote from: ossie85 on October 09, 2013, 07:58:25 AM
I found year 12 exams harder than first year uni to be honest!
:o Definitely not the case for me. I guess it's different for everyone.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 09:55:19 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 09, 2013, 07:58:25 AM
I found year 12 exams harder than first year uni to be honest!
:o Definitely not the case for me. I guess it's different for everyone.
depends what you do, i found the first year of uni stupidly easy. Alot of stress around year 12, when in reality it means very litle.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 09, 2013, 07:58:25 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 08:59:10 PM
Only concern is you say it would be very harsh to sack maca, but if there rules were stated that if you miss 2 voting periods you will be sacked then it would be a bit weak to backpedal on that. Don't know if you did state that was the rule or if I was just making that up, but if I missed 2 trade periods and that was the rule I would understand getting sacked.
Obviously I don't want him sacked though as we have a great rivalry :) Although I'm sure there are plenty of people who are willing to take over the team haha ;)
I covered myself there (I really need to update the official rule book btw) but when making the rules for this thread I said "might" not "will". But I can't find that... I know I did somewhere!
I found year 12 exams harder than first year uni to be honest!
Found this in the first trade voting message you sent out...
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2013, 11:18:38 AM
IF YOU MISS 2 VOTING PERIODS IN A ROW, YOU MIGHT BE SACKED
But then this is what you sent out the year before...
Quote from: ossie85
If a coach misses 2 voting periods in a row, you will be sacked, so make sure assistants are available if you can't reply.
Also first year uni was a breeze, as was year 12. But masters is on a whole new level ;)
Might saved me a little there :P
i say we just give the last 2 years spoon winners choice of 2 of the suns.
Does Maca have assistants that could reply? ???
Even then, he's still absent.
Year 10 was almost harder than my first year of uni
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 10:47:46 AM
Does Maca have assistants that could reply? ???
Even then, he's still absent.
Nah he's a lone ranger, just like me. All the top clubs work solo ;) :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 10:58:56 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 10:47:46 AM
Does Maca have assistants that could reply? ???
Even then, he's still absent.
Nah he's a lone ranger, just like me. All the top clubs work solo ;) :P
;)
Well, Cairo are a top club. After all, we beat the Premiers in 2013. ;)
Best co-coaching duo in the competition. ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
Well, Cairo are a top club. After all, we beat the Premiers in 2013. ;)
Best co-coaching duo in the competition. ;)
Couldn't beat them when it was important though :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 11:31:56 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 11:08:44 AM
Well, Cairo are a top club. After all, we beat the Premiers in 2013. ;)
Best co-coaching duo in the competition. ;)
Couldn't beat them when it was important though :P
That's because Mark Hutchings wasn't playing.
We're like the Adelaide Crows, we're shower without our star player (in Adelaide's case it's Tippett, yes Tippett, not Tex ;D).
Pacific give: Tom Rockliff + Luke Delaney + NAT pick #78
Dublin give: Jack Redden + Michael Hurley + Sam Day
Holz to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Pacific give: Tom Rockliff + Luke Delaney + NAT pick #78
Dublin give: Jack Redden + Michael Hurley + Sam Day
Holz to confirm.
confirmed
reason: Jack Redden is a gun player and I could easily argue better than Rocky in terms of AFL ability, however moloney is hurting him his scoring so in the short term wont be a super premo. Moloney is old and hasnt got long left but for next year rocky is a considerable updrade. Redden should catch up in a few years but i want the flag next year. Hurley showed alot of promise and with crammers possibly going if he keeps fit could be very solid. I no longer need him in my forward line though. Sam Day will one day be something but at the moment he is still wokring his way into SC relevancey should be F/B which helps. This is where Dleanye comes into it, i think he will scrape together a few games which should help my backline. the pick is really late its just there as i need to add players.
I wonder if this is the first insant of brothers in the same team.
I wanted the Swallow borthers at Dublin but that failed, so happy to get the delaney brothers.
watch out Tokyo next year i might make a play to join the Selwood brothers.
I don't think kb or Boomz will be letting Scott Selwood go any time soon. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 01:33:45 PM
I don't think kb or Boomz will be letting Scott Selwood go any time soon. :P
every player has a price.
Have traded my boy JOM away.
Oh yeah and my reason is that we wanted to add some more depth and Hurley + Day allows for that. Of course losing Rocky was tough but we dont feel Redden is too far behind and should be a super premo by the time we challenge for the 8. I think this trade is a win/win :)
I have Jack and Dylan Grimes Holz ;)
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 09, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
I have Jack and Dylan Grimes Holz ;)
forgot about the grimes brothers.
nice combo there.
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
I wonder if this is the first insant of brothers in the same team.
I wanted the Swallow borthers at Dublin but that failed, so happy to get the delaney brothers.
watch out Tokyo next year i might make a play to join the Selwood brothers.
The Cornes brothers were at the same club since the Worlds inception.
Dillos really needs to make some trades
Give us your forwards or mids. GO.
I'm bracing myself for comments on this trade :-X like every other time premo's have been traded there has been an uproar ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:47:22 PM
I'm bracing myself for comments on this trade :-X like every other time premo's have been traded there has been an uproar ;)
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!!?!
Lol you have already been trying to get Scooter this year
Quote from: ossie85 on October 09, 2013, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:47:22 PM
I'm bracing myself for comments on this trade :-X like every other time premo's have been traded there has been an uproar ;)
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!!?! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh2sWSVRrmo)
Better. ;)
:D must just be a super fair trade!
Watch out for the Islanders this year guys. Wont be no easy beats!
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:55:04 PM
:D must just be a super fair trade!
Watch out for the Islanders this year guys. Wont be no easy beats!
Hasn't even been 2 hours champ, calm down and brace yourself. ;) :P
That said... Personally, I don't see Redden as much of a fantasy captain option... even in a few years. Rocky's much better and is only a year older.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 02:59:37 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:55:04 PM
:D must just be a super fair trade!
Watch out for the Islanders this year guys. Wont be no easy beats!
Hasn't even been 2 hours champ, calm down and brace yourself. ;) :P
That said... Personally, I don't see Redden as much of a fantasy captain option... even in a few years. Rocky's much better and is only a year older.
Redden has gone 102 before and will improve on that when Moloney goes. Hurley has shown promise and Craneri going will help him. Sam Day was a top 3 pick too.
Yeah I reckon Holz wins it but I dunno if there's any point in pushing the issue ::)
And Rocky went 113 in the same year of 2011. ;) :P :o
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah I reckon Holz wins it but I dunno if there's any point in pushing the issue ::)
Yeah... I was gonna refrain from commenting, but I couldn't help myself. :-[ :-X
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah I reckon Holz wins it but I dunno if there's any point in pushing the issue ::)
Happy that our fwds are looking good now though. It was our weakest position! Cant see Rocky keeping dpp much longer tbh.
Quote from: elephants on October 09, 2013, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah I reckon Holz wins it but I dunno if there's any point in pushing the issue ::)
this will be a interesting one, 50% of people i speak to say Jay wins and the other 50% say I win.
We obviously lose roughly 10ppg from Rocky to Redden, but I reckon Hurley + Day makes up for it.
Hurley's injured every second week, Day's yet to live up to the hype of being Pick 3.
Still, I reckon Rocky's always gonna be a better player than Redden... that's just how I feel.
I'm gonna stop there though, because voicing my opinion any longer is only gonna cause trouble (if it hasn't already done so). :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Hurley's injured every second week, Day's yet to live up to the hype of being Pick 3.
Still, I reckon Rocky's always gonna be a better player than Redden... that's just how I feel.
I'm gonna stop there though, because voicing my opinion any longer is only gonna cause trouble (if it hasn't already done so). :P
Maca should thank me, definately have deflected pressure away from him.
will be a long wait to see if this one passes. definately a difficult trade to value, i have spent a long time deciding if i wanted to do this one, my roo bias with delaney got me over the line ;P
Fair call mate. I agree that Rocky will forever be better than Redden. But maybe not by as big of a margin as everyone thinks. Have faith in Hurley to live up to his potential and for Day to become a handy scorer. Hurley has gone 85ppg before as a bac/fwd, if he does that again, dont think you can say Holz wins... Unless Rocky goes like 130 :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 03:28:36 PM
Fair call mate. I agree that Rocky will forever be better than Redden. But maybe not by as big of a margin as everyone thinks. Have faith in Hurley to live up to his potential and for Day to become a handy scorer. Hurley has gone 85ppg before as a bac/fwd, if he does that again, dont think you can say Holz wins... Unless Rocky goes like 130 :P
heres hoping.
Dont think he is that good that he can match the likes of Ablett and Pendles, best case scenario im thinking is he knocks Selwood down to VC.
if leppa plays him up front, I will crack it as im probably starting him in SC.
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Hurley's injured every second week, Day's yet to live up to the hype of being Pick 3.
Still, I reckon Rocky's always gonna be a better player than Redden... that's just how I feel.
I'm gonna stop there though, because voicing my opinion any longer is only gonna cause trouble (if it hasn't already done so). :P
Maca should thank me, definately have deflected pressure away from him.
will be a long wait to see if this one passes. definately a difficult trade to value, i have spent a long time deciding if i wanted to do this one, my roo bias with delaney got me over the line ;P
1. http://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/
2. You've be gunning for Rocky for ages, I know that because you PC me on chat every time and you harp on about wanting a flag so badly.
3. Delaney's gonna be a Saint soon.
4. Maca's still very much in the minds of everyone I'm sure...
Okay yeah, I can't stop voicing my opinion no matter how hard I try. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Hurley's injured every second week, Day's yet to live up to the hype of being Pick 3.
Still, I reckon Rocky's always gonna be a better player than Redden... that's just how I feel.
I'm gonna stop there though, because voicing my opinion any longer is only gonna cause trouble (if it hasn't already done so). :P
Surely you cant be trying to argue that Jay is losing this trade? Jay wins big time but Holz also gets what he wants! If you neg this trade its purely out of fear of Dublin :P
Hmm don't think I'll be going back to back... :-\
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 09, 2013, 03:39:17 PM
If you neg this trade its purely out of fear of Dublin :P
You got me. :(
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 03:27:51 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 03:24:31 PM
Hurley's injured every second week, Day's yet to live up to the hype of being Pick 3.
Still, I reckon Rocky's always gonna be a better player than Redden... that's just how I feel.
I'm gonna stop there though, because voicing my opinion any longer is only gonna cause trouble (if it hasn't already done so). :P
Maca should thank me, definately have deflected pressure away from him.
will be a long wait to see if this one passes. definately a difficult trade to value, i have spent a long time deciding if i wanted to do this one, my roo bias with delaney got me over the line ;P
But he won't be a roo next season :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
Hmm don't think I'll be going back to back... :-\
I would say I arguably have the best 15 in the comp. My bench is a joke though, you have really good cover a few injuries to key players and im in major trouble. If goldy goes down for example its basically season over.
thats where losing players like hurley could really come back to hurt me.
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
No offense, but year 12 exams are not very hard to get through. Doing a masters at uni is far more consuming than year 12, trust me ;)
Haha I know and don't doubt that for a moment... That said, let's just say that my Year 12 exam experience wasn't fruitful. :P
You're not filling me with great excitement heading into final exams guys :-\ :P
YEAR 12 IS THE DEVIL
One more month, just one more month.
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
Hmm don't think I'll be going back to back... :-\
I would say I arguably have the best 15 in the comp. My bench is a joke though, you have really good cover a few injuries to key players and im in major trouble. If goldy goes down for example its basically season over.
thats where losing players like hurley could really come back to hurt me.
You sacrificed your depth to get that 15...
You've basically turned Dublin into the Dillos.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2013, 04:14:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 08, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 09:06:16 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2013, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 08, 2013, 08:51:45 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 08, 2013, 07:33:04 PM
I think we should be lenient here; if I remember correctly Maca is in year 12 and entering the hard part of the year. Wouldn't be surprised if he's got rid of his laptop/computer all together for a month and a half... probably what I should do :P
While this is true, and I know what it's like... the fact that you and others (I'm sure there are, I know Jukes is...) who are in Year 12 have been able to get on, it kinda doesn't excuse it altogether. I do agree though, it would be harsh, but I would have thought that that he would have been on once since the 28th... at the very least on the weekend. :-X :)
No offense, but year 12 exams are not very hard to get through. Doing a masters at uni is far more consuming than year 12, trust me ;)
Haha I know and don't doubt that for a moment... That said, let's just say that my Year 12 exam experience wasn't fruitful. :P
You're not filling me with great excitement heading into final exams guys :-\ :P
YEAR 12 IS THE DEVIL
One more month, just one more month.
Just keep chanting. That's what I've been doing.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
Hmm don't think I'll be going back to back... :-\
I would say I arguably have the best 15 in the comp. My bench is a joke though, you have really good cover a few injuries to key players and im in major trouble. If goldy goes down for example its basically season over.
thats where losing players like hurley could really come back to hurt me.
You sacrificed your depth to get that 15...
You've basically turned Dublin into the Dillos.
that I have, the big difference though is my starting sqaud is still really young.
25 24 25 31
25 23 28 22
25
23 25 22 22
25 28
only 3 guys over 25 in my starting 15 is abit different to the dillos.
I have a few guys on my bench im hoping can emulate black and provide good cover. guys like schoenemarkers, harper, delaney brothers etc.. If im wrong than im in trouble.
Difference is Dillos have depth now
Newman D5, Jay Schulz F5 Sewell/judd m7 (once I get Judd)
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 04:37:33 PM
Difference is Dillos have depth now
Newman D5, Jay Schulz F5 Sewell/judd m7 (once I get Judd)
we not discussed Judd in ages ???
Screw Judd, you can have James Kelly for the same pick ;)
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 04:32:54 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 04:17:11 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 03:43:15 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 03:39:30 PM
Hmm don't think I'll be going back to back... :-\
I would say I arguably have the best 15 in the comp. My bench is a joke though, you have really good cover a few injuries to key players and im in major trouble. If goldy goes down for example its basically season over.
thats where losing players like hurley could really come back to hurt me.
You sacrificed your depth to get that 15...
You've basically turned Dublin into the Dillos.
that I have, the big difference though is my starting sqaud is still really young.
25 24 25 31
25 23 28 22
25
23 25 22 22
25 28
only 3 guys over 25 in my starting 15 is abit different to the dillos.
I have a few guys on my bench im hoping can emulate black and provide good cover. guys like schoenemarkers, harper, delaney brothers etc.. If im wrong than im in trouble.
My probably starting 15 is a little younger than that, but it's hard to tell exactly what my best 15 will be at the moment, because as you say I have plenty of depth.
Currently I would say it is probably this:
27 25 27 22
29 23 24 23
28
26 21 23 20
25 23
So 6 who are 25 or over compared to your 9. Average age of 24.4 to your 24.9
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Already got 2 great rivalries going, might as well add a third... ;)
Quick question Os.
Is there one kind of trade period this year, just regular trading till Round 1? Or do we stop trading after the draft? Or is there a limited period like a max of two trades or something, I remember reading about this somewhere but can't find it.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Already got 2 great rivalries going, might as well add a third... ;)
Two?
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Already got 2 great rivalries going, might as well add a third... ;)
Two?
Dillos and Suns. Or do you consider to be a rival too?
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Already got 2 great rivalries going, might as well add a third... ;)
Two?
Dillos and Suns. Or do you consider to be a rival too?
Haha, nah, I was just curious who the other one was ;)
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2013, 07:18:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 07:15:08 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 09, 2013, 07:04:06 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 05:41:20 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 05:34:53 PM
i can see Puma v Destroyer rivalry going to form over the next few years.
Already got 2 great rivalries going, might as well add a third... ;)
Two?
Dillos and Suns. Or do you consider to be a rival too?
Haha, nah, I was just curious who the other one was ;)
Which one did you consider my main rival? Suns?
Probably can't really call the Dillos my rival considering we have played 4 times and they have lost every single time! :P
Am I the only one who thinks Holz severely overrates his team?
You're going to end up missing the 8 due to lack of depth holz.
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 02:43:18 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 01:28:35 PM
I wonder if this is the first insant of brothers in the same team.
I wanted the Swallow borthers at Dublin but that failed, so happy to get the delaney brothers.
watch out Tokyo next year i might make a play to join the Selwood brothers.
The Cornes brothers were at the same club since the Worlds inception.
Dillos really needs to make some trades
Give us your forwards or mids. GO.
i say yet again
what have you got to offer ppl besides lifetime guarantees on walking frames? :P
Quote from: Nails link=opic=86547.msg1214491#msg1214491 date=1381308203
Am I the only one who thinks Holz severely overrates his team?
You're going to end up missing the 8 due to lack of depth holz.
I do overate my team but i actually think you have the worst depth out of the top 8 teams I have the second worst.
Would happily take a bet against you about making the 8.
even though we've added like 3-5 22 game players to our team list at the expense of none?
Quote from: Master Q on October 09, 2013, 06:56:31 PM
Quick question Os.
Is there one kind of trade period this year, just regular trading till Round 1? Or do we stop trading after the draft? Or is there a limited period like a max of two trades or something, I remember reading about this somewhere but can't find it.
Another trade period after positions are announced
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
even though we've added like 3-5 22 game players to our team list at the expense of none?
IN: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Bob Murphy, Shuan Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff
OUt: Jesee Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger OMeara, Aaron Black, Shuan Atley, Zach Clarke, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad HIll, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley, Sam Day, Lots of Picks.
So have gained 8 best 22 players
and have lost only 5-6 guys who were best 22 last year.
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Holz severely overrates his team?
You're going to end up missing the 8 due to lack of depth holz.
You're not alone.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 08:28:28 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 07:43:23 PM
Am I the only one who thinks Holz severely overrates his team?
You're going to end up missing the 8 due to lack of depth holz.
You're not alone.
Says the team who got the most points in their salary this year :P
Holz, how can you say we have the worst depth? Considering 6 or 7 guys in our best XV were injured/suspended consistently, yest most weeks we could put a team of 15 up. Its rubbish and you know that holz.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Holz, how can you say we have the worst depth? Considering 6 or 7 guys in our best XV were injured/suspended consistently, yest most weeks we could put a team of 15 up. Its rubbish and you know that holz.
Well that's not really true, you were struggling to field a side for many weeks!
My team had an average of 22.85 players play per week (not counting bye weeks), so I always had plenty of choices. The only time I dropped below 21 players named was in the semi final against you when I only had 18 play. The max I had play in a week was 27. That's what you call depth ;)
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Holz, how can you say we have the worst depth? Considering 6 ohave many guys in our best XV were injured/suspended consistently, yest most weeks we could put a team of 15 up. Its rubbish and you know that holz.
Because what your missing is a bench of young guys with potential to turn Into best 22 players or at least play 10 or so games. Guys like lachy Hansen and Aaron black turned from guys who never played for me to best 22 players.
Your alright for now but soon you will be in major trouble.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 09, 2013, 09:15:49 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Holz, how can you say we have the worst depth? Considering 6 or 7 guys in our best XV were injured/suspended consistently, yest most weeks we could put a team of 15 up. Its rubbish and you know that holz.
Well that's not really true, you were struggling to field a side for many weeks!
My team had an average of 22.85 players play per week (not counting bye weeks), so I always had plenty of choices. The only time I dropped below 21 players named was in the semi final against you when I only had 18 play. The max I had play in a week was 27. That's what you call depth ;)
Your team is amazing best list in the comp easy.
All these opinions, facts and stats... They're all irrelevant.
NDT dominates all.
Thanks.
;)
Well, my plan is to make the eight, lets say I do finish eight, then win my way to the premiership with captain Jack Steven scoring 150+ in each final. The remaining 14 will get inspired by him every week and they too will lift, and my team will peak in finals and BOOM, Berlin premiership
:D
My plan is to get Judd to play Chicken Wing with Jack Steven to put him out for the season and ruin your plan lol
Just a joke don't actually wish for players to get injured
My plan is for Ablett to be given forward status. Then I would be unstoppable! :P
My plan is to not have a plan because planning is overrated and time consuming. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
My plan is to not have a plan because planning is overrated and time consuming. :P
Speaking of time consuming I though proof reading everyones posts would take a bit of a time lol
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
My plan is to not have a plan because planning is overrated and time consuming. :P
It's good to see we are on the same page with our plans Nige. ;)
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 09, 2013, 10:09:09 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 09, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
My plan is to not have a plan because planning is overrated and time consuming. :P
It's good to see we are on the same page with our plans Nige. ;)
See guys, we're so in sync that we don't even notify each other of our plans.
;) ;D 8)
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
even though we've added like 3-5 22 game players to our team list at the expense of none?
IN: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Bob Murphy, Shuan Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff
OUt: Jesee Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger OMeara, Aaron Black, Shuan Atley, Zach Clarke, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad HIll, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley, Sam Day, Lots of Picks.
So have gained 8 best 22 players
and have lost only 5-6 guys who were best 22 last year.
Do you even have 15 players on your list? :P
Quote from: Master Q on October 09, 2013, 10:41:47 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2013, 08:21:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2013, 07:59:36 PM
even though we've added like 3-5 22 game players to our team list at the expense of none?
IN: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Bob Murphy, Shuan Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff
OUt: Jesee Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger OMeara, Aaron Black, Shuan Atley, Zach Clarke, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad HIll, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley, Sam Day, Lots of Picks.
So have gained 8 best 22 players
and have lost only 5-6 guys who were best 22 last year.
Do you even have 15 players on your list? :P
Will be taking lots of Nat picks no doubt
Quote from: nrich102 on October 09, 2013, 08:51:32 PM
Holz, how can you say we have the worst depth? Considering 6 or 7 guys in our best XV were injured/suspended consistently, yest most weeks we could put a team of 15 up. Its rubbish and you know that holz.
2nd Worst :P
QuoteReserves
Position Name Score Scored Against Wins Loses Percentage
1 Rhineland Rum-Runners 2132 1219 15 2 174.90
2 Alexandria Hieroglyphics 2402 1594 13 4 150.69
3 Mexico City Suns 1853 1269 12 5 146.02
4 Toronto Wolves 1860 1431 12 5 129.98
5 Cape Town Cobras 1826 1516 12 5 120.45
6 Imperial Princes 2062 1598 10 7 129.04
7 Rio de Janeiro Jaguars 1737 1599 10 7 108.63
8 Port Morseby Iguanadons 1519 1475 10 7 102.98
9 Marseille Kings 1568 1605 10 7 97.69
10 Belfast Braves 1123 1299 10 7 86.45
11 Wellington Warriors 1318 1269 9 8 103.86
12 Pyongyang Chollimas 1403 1310 8 9 107.10
13 Washington Rebellion 1274 1316 7 10 96.81
14 Siberian Wolverines 1193 1461 6 11 81.66
15 Mumbai Elephants 588 1395 4 13 42.15
16 Yuzawa Typhoon 822 1289 2 15 63.77
17 Buenos Aires Armadillos 509 1332 2 15 38.21
18 Shanghai Storm 407 1619 1 16 25.14
4 teams left to vote!
Same ol' stragglers --> Hellopplz, Maca24, pothead, pyronerd/Sid
People need to VOTE by 11:59pm Monday to avoid possible sanctions - particularly Maca24
But none of the votes will change the outcomes, but would be good for the record, the trade results are:
Trades Passed Fully (2 votes or less)
* These trades passed, with or without my objection
Trade 31:
Moscow trade: Shaun Higgins and Alex Sexton
Cape Town trade: Lynden Dunn and Pick 33
Trade 33:
Berlin trade: Lachlan Henderson and Pick 60
Toronto trade: Dayne Zorko
Trades Fully Rejected (9 votes or more)
* These trades passed, with or without my support
Nil
Trades Passed by the Coaches, but referred to me (3 votes or more)
Nil
Trades Rejected by the Coaches, but referred to me (8 votes or less)
Trade 32:
Pacific trade: Tom Nicholls
New York trade: Josh Jenkins and Pick 8
Verdict: A lot of doubt from coaches of whether or not Nicholls (a ruck averaging 92 from 8 matches, including 2 centuries) and Jenkins (a ruckmen/forward who averaged 69, including 3 centirues) were roughly equal given Nicholls is still seen as not a #1 ruck. Pick 8 was seen as overkill. I tend to agree with these doubts, at least to an extent where I'm not confident overturning the people's decision REJECTED
Trades Rejected for other reasons
Nil
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?
So my previous trade, 'Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia and Pick 60 FOR Pick 5 and Pick 44' was rejected because I was giving up too much... And now Nicholls FOR Jenkins + pick 8 is rejected because I gain too much?
Jenkins will lose DPP anyway, he'll just be a fwd and who knows how pick 8 will turn out, could be a spud! Nicholls is a quality young ruck who averaged 92 sub affected, his true average is 100ppg.
Cannot for the life of me see how both trades got rejected! Is it worth trying to find a deal for Nicholls in between my first one and this one? Will probably just get rejected again :-X
Ah damn, that complicates things. Mark Jamar looks set to leave the demons, meaning he looks set to leave the Brewers!
Will wait until he gets to another club, but officially putting him out there... might be alright at another club.
Finally got me a hawk at Seoul. Welcome to the hawks Benny!
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 10, 2013, 09:37:20 AM
Ah damn, that complicates things. Mark Jamar looks set to leave the demons, meaning he looks set to leave the Brewers!
Will wait until he gets to another club, but officially putting him out there... might be alright at another club.
Reckon that means Jolly could be on the cards also! Jolly a former Demon, and a premiership player under Roos...
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2013, 08:16:31 AM
Trades Rejected by the Coaches, but referred to me (8 votes or less)
Trade 32:
Pacific trade: Tom Nicholls
New York trade: Josh Jenkins and Pick 8
Verdict: A lot of doubt from coaches of whether or not Nicholls (a ruck averaging 92 from 8 matches, including 2 centuries) and Jenkins (a ruckmen/forward who averaged 69, including 3 centirues) were roughly equal given Nicholls is still seen as not a #1 ruck. Pick 8 was seen as overkill. I tend to agree with these doubts, at least to an extent where I'm not confident overturning the people's decision REJECTED
I'll vote tonight, been a little busy past few nights. I would have voted same as above anyway, rejecting this one as well cause think it is overkill for Nicholls.
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:47:22 PM
I'm bracing myself for comments on this trade :-X like every other time premo's have been traded there has been an uproar ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 09, 2013, 02:55:04 PM
:D must just be a super fair trade!
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QuoteSo my previous trade, 'Tom Nicholls, Daniel Talia and Pick 60 FOR Pick 5 and Pick 44' was rejected because I was giving up too much... And now Nicholls FOR Jenkins + pick 8 is rejected because I gain too much?
TBH I negged the 1st one, but not this week's one
But I do see how they could both be negged
Nicholls is around pick 5-8... (I don't see pick 5 and 8 with that much difference in value, when it's a bit of a lottery at those numbers)
So essentially both trades are more or less Nicholls for Pick 8/5
However in the first 1... Talia and Pick 60 are WAY TOO MUCH for pick 44. Pick 44 and 60 are both rubbish picks and really have no value at all imo. Therefore an overpay
And in the Second trade...
Nicholls for Pick 8 - good
then you randomly got Jenkins thrown in there on top.
I thought both were fair enough tbh :P
Rough luck there Jayman.
Yeah same mc. It's hard now because he has to try and make it better for the people who negged it, but that could mean people like us who thought it was originally fair won't think it's fair once it gets changed...
i negged the first one as jay wasnt getting enough. in the second one he still isnt getting enough but its much closer.
in what world is josh jenkins equal to nicholls.
Nicholls > 8
jenkins = 25
there is a big difference between 8 and 5 actually. in 2013 pick 5 could have got jack martin for example. in 2012 it could have got wingard.
The Nicholl's trade was the only one I negged this week.
And I wasn't surprised other people agreed with me, especially after Pick 1 couldn't change hands.
Nicholls =/= 5
Nicholls =/= 8
Nicholls = Jenkins
Basically, I don't think Nicholls is that great.
Inb4 bashing, hating and/or arguing.
:P
So you think Nicholls for 5 or 8 is fair and wouldn't get negged?
Where did you get that from kb? He said Nichols does not equal 5 or 8.
oh i dunno how those stupid bloody =/= things work lol
Haha fair enough. The actual symbol should be an equal sign with a cross through it, but they don't have them on keyboards so you have to do 2 equals signs with a cross between them. Means does not equal :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 10, 2013, 08:33:50 PM
Haha fair enough. The actual symbol should be an equal sign with a cross through it, but they don't have them on keyboards so you have to do 2 equals signs with a cross between them. Means does not equal :)
the java way for not equal is !=
Really nothing much wrong with the trade, hardly favours anyone that much pending your own views, seriously though, how is it that bad?
Nicholls' average will drop a showerload when he is playing #2 ruck.
Something to consider.
Will Nicholls play 2nd ruck, or will Smith? If you ask me the trade is fair!
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Nicholls can jump way higher though.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2013, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Nicholls can jump way higher though.
Doesn't matter if he can jump over the moon or not if Zmith outdoes him in the more important aspects of ruck work. Last time I checked, there was no fantasy points for jumping. :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 10, 2013, 09:31:38 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2013, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Nicholls can jump way higher though.
Must be #1 ruck then ::)
+1
Quote from: NigeyS on October 10, 2013, 09:33:14 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2013, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Nicholls can jump way higher though.
Doesn't matter if he can jump over the moon or not if Zmith outdoes him in the more important aspects of ruck work. Last time I checked, there was no fantasy points for jumping. :P
+1
Agree with it all lads.
I rate Nicholls over Smith just because of his 2nd efforts
Quote from: nrich102 on October 10, 2013, 09:28:40 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 10, 2013, 09:25:33 PM
Zac Smith is GC's #1 ruck.
Nicholls can jump way higher though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRK93Nto9lM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRK93Nto9lM)
Thing is, the trade hardly favours either part much either way, some for, some against pending your value on the players
The AFL would allow it :o
Too many people are like
blah blah blah what if this/that and the other
You can only judge him on what you've seen.
The recruiters at Richmond were like "what if we get Tambling? he'll be gun"
But he wasn't.
Cox and NicNait don't really steal points off each other. They're both premiums. Whose to say Nicholls won't get even better with Smith in the team?
You can only judge him based on what you have seen and not 1,000 potential what ifs.
It's unlikely but Zmith might even get traded then Nicholls #gunfor10years
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
And who says Tom Boyd will be good? My trade was still negged :P
Also I think you have to consider that Nicholls is an athletic ruckmen, which IMO means that his peak years are when he is young, and he'll have to adjust his game once he slows down.
Really why I negged the trade is that Nicholls isn't way more valuable than Jenkins, and Pick 8 is still an awesome pick.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 10, 2013, 09:48:25 PM
Thing is, the trade hardly favours either part much either way, some for, some against pending your value on the players
The AFL would allow it :o
No, the trade severaly favours either party depending how you rate the players ;)
And can people get flowered with comparing Cox/NicNat to Zmith/Nicholls? ::)
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
Not really. If you research enough or even check stats or their fantasy scores in the past (in this case TAC Cup/VFL etc) you can find out which players are better than others in that respect.
Tom Boyd's almost certainly going to be the No.1 pick in the AFL draft, but he's definitely not the best fantasy scorer of the guys who'll be drafted.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 10, 2013, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
Not really. If you research enough or even check stats or their fantasy scores in the past (in this case TAC Cup/VFL etc) you can find out which players are better than others in that respect.
Tom Boyd's almost certainly going to be the No.1 pick in the AFL draft, but he's definitely not the best fantasy scorer of the guys who'll be drafted.
That whole post is total bs lol :P
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2013, 10:18:15 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 10, 2013, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
Not really. If you research enough or even check stats or their fantasy scores in the past (in this case TAC Cup/VFL etc) you can find out which players are better than others in that respect.
Tom Boyd's almost certainly going to be the No.1 pick in the AFL draft, but he's definitely not the best fantasy scorer of the guys who'll be drafted.
That whole post is total bs lol :P
Just because Boyd's gonna be Pick 1 in the AFL doesn't meant pot (if he keeps the first pick) has to take Boyd. He could take Aish, Kelly, Billings, Scharenberg... just to name a few. They're all gonna be better scorers, plus one or two should have of those guys should have DPP, which is valuable in fantasy.
"He could take Aish, Kelly, Billings, Scharenberg... just to name a few. They're all gonna be better scorers"
Oh really? Where did you buy your crystal ball?
I've read multiple times that Boyd plays most like Jonathon Brown. Brown averaged 114 in 2005 (14 games), 140 in 2006 (10 games), 111 in 2007 (22 games), 100 in 2008 (21 games), and 99 in 2009 (22 games), plus probably again 110+ in 2004 before SC started. Definitely doesn't read spud scorer to me.
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
Disagree fantasy drafts are much easier to pick than real drafts.
Guys like omeara Martin etc. are easy picks who go inside the top 5.
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2013, 11:12:07 PM
"He could take Aish, Kelly, Billings, Scharenberg... just to name a few. They're all gonna be better scorers"
Oh really? Where did you buy your crystal ball?
It's not a given, but it's likely.
Quote from: Jukes on October 11, 2013, 12:45:23 AM
I've read multiple times that Boyd plays most like Jonathon Brown. Brown averaged 114 in 2005 (14 games), 140 in 2006 (10 games), 111 in 2007 (22 games), 100 in 2008 (21 games), and 99 in 2009 (22 games), plus probably again 110+ in 2004 before SC started. Definitely doesn't read spud scorer to me.
Never called him a spud scorer, I just said that I think some of the other guys who will be taken after him in the AFL draft and potentially the draft here in Worlds will likely be better scorers.
QuoteDraft Order:
Round 1
1. Boomz - J Patton
2. ossie85 - S Coniglio
3. bomberboy0618 - D Tyson
4. Holzman - J O'Meara
5. Hellopplz - C Wingard
6. FisherSaints - M Buntine
7. Maca24 - B Longer
8. meow meow - W Hoskin-Elliott
9. Cookie Monster - S Docherty
10. MajorLazer - A Tomlinson
11. Sid - T Greene
12. c4v3m4n - T Mitchell
13. My Chumps - N Haynes
14. Purple 77 - B Crouch
15. pothead - B Ellis
16. CrowsFan - L Sumner
17. PowerBug - B McKenzie
18. roo boys! - T Adams
what about guys like dom tyson and that?
Some spud picks there when you had guns like Greene and Ellis go later
#notaseasyasuthink
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
This is exactly why it makes me sad people rate Pick 1 over Harry Taylor..
I still call absolute bullshower that both my Nicholls trades were negged :P
Will probably get negged whatever I post up next anyway. Some people are just never happy...
People dont realise that Jenkins is not that good and will lose dpp ::)
Quote from: Toga on October 11, 2013, 08:27:03 AM
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
This is exactly why it makes me sad people rate Pick 1 over Harry Taylor..
*refer to my post a few pages back about the history of the #1 pick and their scoring potential :P
It's very unlikely to get someone who's career best average is 94 (Taylor's) with the first pick.
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:53:10 PM
Too many people are like
blah blah blah what if this/that and the other
You can only judge him on what you've seen.
The recruiters at Richmond were like "what if we get Tambling? he'll be gun"
But he wasn't.
Cox and NicNait don't really steal points off each other. They're both premiums. Whose to say Nicholls won't get even better with Smith in the team?
You can only judge him based on what you have seen and not 1,000 potential what ifs.
It's unlikely but Zmith might even get traded then Nicholls #gunfor10years
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2013, 09:57:07 PM
Oh holz and re: picks 5 and 8
I don't think there's a huge difference. Especially w/ a fantasy draft. It's essentially a huge guessing game.
As you say, could've got Wingard etc. Really Wingard should've been taken higher than 6.
Why was Tambling taken so high, or Mitchell Thorpe etc. ?
Essentially drafts are guessing games, including fantasy drafts. Therefore somebody guessing at 5 isn't really any difference to a guess at 8.
I feel weird agreeing with Nails so much.
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls + NAT 25
New York give: Josh Jenkins + NAT 8
Pyro to confirm.
inb4 that gets negd too
lol i didn't even neg the last one was just joining in ;D
Pacific just casually trying to hoard draft picks, clever idea. It would be a shame, however, if one got so many talented youngsters but couldn't play them because they already have 3/4 of their list in a similar age bracket and therefore just let them rot. :)
Try at least to show some class and don't neg before a trade is even confirmed ::)
Can't say I like this voting system, people neg for fun :P
I don't think anyone has actually negged...
The trade was posted this morning, and it hasn't been sent out, of course it hasn't been negged... yet. ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 12, 2013, 02:49:19 PM
The trade was posted this morning, and it hasn't been sent out, of course it hasn't been negged... yet. ;)
Really? :P
Posting it after the trade post though is poor form ;)
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 12, 2013, 02:57:36 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 12, 2013, 02:49:19 PM
The trade was posted this morning, and it hasn't been sent out, of course it hasn't been negged... yet. ;)
Really? :P
Posting it after the trade post though is poor form ;)
Yeah, poor form on my part. :(
It's a joke tbag
get over it
seriously.
Obviously everyone will neg just to rustle Pacific's jimmies ::)
#WhyYouAllHateTheMightyIslanders
Im gonna neg it just cos tbag can't take a joke :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 12, 2013, 04:09:44 PM
Im gonna neg it just cos tbag can't take a joke :P
StrongReasoning/10 ;D
Quote from: Jayman on October 12, 2013, 10:38:53 AM
Pacific give: Tom Nicholls + NAT 25
New York give: Josh Jenkins + NAT 8
Pyro to confirm.
confirmed :-X 8) :o :( 8) ??? :P ::) :-\ :'( :-*
Quote from: NigeyS on October 12, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Pacific just casually trying to hoard draft picks, clever idea. It would be a shame, however, if one got so many talented youngsters but couldn't play them because they already have 3/4 of their list in a similar age bracket and therefore just let them rot. :)
Tbagrocks, head of drafting at Pacific has identified this years draft as a major source of talent! Dont you worry about us mate, we'll be fine ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 12, 2013, 04:24:45 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 12, 2013, 02:21:08 PM
Pacific just casually trying to hoard draft picks, clever idea. It would be a shame, however, if one got so many talented youngsters but couldn't play them because they already have 3/4 of their list in a similar age bracket and therefore just let them rot. :)
Tbagrocks, head of drafting at Pacific has identified this years draft as a major source of talent! Dont you worry about us mate, we'll be fine ;)
so has coach holz, thats why dublin will go into the draft with 5-6 picks 70+
#BanterTheBag :P you got me
Cant blame me though with two negged trades already and all the discussion about our player
We just want to move on and help improve our list, Nic isn't a required player with three other good ruckman so, we trade him off for something that suits our needs
In a shocking deal, Phil Davis has walked out on the Reindeers, citing a need to join a much more successful team in the Pacific Islanders, saying he is looking for short term success before he signs a Buddy-esque 9 year contract next season with a club of his choice. In return, the Reindeers receive a little known young midfielder yet to debut in Jack Martin. When Senior Coach Hellopplz was asked about the young player, his response was "Who?". That was when the interview was sadly cut off.
(http://gyazo.com/630786961f1e48e4e80c554a6395d27d)
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 14, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
In a shocking deal, Phil Davis has walked out on the Reindeers, citing a need to join a much more successful team in the Pacific Islanders, saying he is looking for short term success before he signs a Buddy-esque 9 year contract next season with a club of his choice. In return, the Reindeers receive a little known young midfielder yet to debut in Jack Martin. When Senior Coach Hellopplz was asked about the young player, his response was "Who?". That was when the interview was sadly cut off.
(http://gyazo.com/630786961f1e48e4e80c554a6395d27d)
Did I read this correctly?
Davis for Martin?
Not sure if serious :P
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 14, 2013, 08:25:41 PM
In a shocking deal, Phil Davis has walked out on the Reindeers, citing a need to join a much more successful team in the Pacific Islanders, saying he is looking for short term success before he signs a Buddy-esque 9 year contract next season with a club of his choice. In return, the Reindeers receive a little known young midfielder yet to debut in Jack Martin. When Senior Coach Hellopplz was asked about the young player, his response was "Who?". That was when the interview was sadly cut off.
(http://gyazo.com/630786961f1e48e4e80c554a6395d27d)
DENY
Bunny is talking crazy again :P Jack Martin costs at least 2 arms and a leg.
Haha, I was going to say; what a steal by the Reindeers! :P
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
Haha, I was going to say; what a steal by the Reindeers! :P
Knowing this trade committee though, it'd probably get rejected because I'm gaining too much ;D
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 08:31:23 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on October 14, 2013, 08:29:57 PM
Haha, I was going to say; what a steal by the Reindeers! :P
Knowing this trade committee though, it'd probably get rejected because I'm gaining too much ;D
Davis is the next Premier defender of the competition, watch him average 90+ next season when uninjured and if he ever gets another tall defender outside Mohr to help him out :P.
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Bunny is talking crazy again :P Jack Martin costs at least 2 arms and a leg.
I can give you arms and a leg if you give me Martin >:D. I have connections...
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Jack Martin costs at least 2 arms and a leg.
I'm pretty sure Phil Davis has two arms and a leg... and another leg too! Overs?! :P He was a Crow back in the day too.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 14, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Jack Martin costs at least 2 arms and a leg.
I'm pretty sure Phil Davis has two arms and a leg... and another leg too! Overs?! :P He was a Crow back in the day too.
He's a traitor ;)
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 09:53:47 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 14, 2013, 09:43:49 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 08:28:20 PM
Jack Martin costs at least 2 arms and a leg.
I'm pretty sure Phil Davis has two arms and a leg... and another leg too! Overs?! :P He was a Crow back in the day too.
He's a traitor ;)
I'm sure you'd have him back in a heartbeat. :P
would have given pick 5 for Martin which Jay has been after or was
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
would have given pick 5 for Martin which Jay has been after or was
I'd probably give #1 for Martin :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
would have given pick 5 for Martin which Jay has been after or was
i can assure you it would take alot more then pick 5
lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 14, 2013, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
would have given pick 5 for Martin which Jay has been after or was
i can assure you it would take alot more then pick 5
lol
didn't they just trade him for Davis? i wouldn't be so sure
You realise that was a joke right?
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 14, 2013, 11:25:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:19:27 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 14, 2013, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:13:19 PM
would have given pick 5 for Martin which Jay has been after or was
i can assure you it would take alot more then pick 5
lol
didn't they just trade him for Davis? i wouldn't be so sure
You realise that was a joke right?
Hahaha
Guys JMart is worth a fair bit more than pick 1 even!
yeah eventually i did :-X hence deleting my comment but you caught it >:(
Pacific give: Chris Dawes + Matthew Watson
PNL give: Phil Davis + NAT pick #65 + NAT pick #81
HP or Daz to confirm
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 14, 2013, 11:30:09 PM
yeah eventually i did :-X hence deleting my comment but you caught it >:(
Haha sorry, I am very quick :P
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-58sN4uuVJo8/UVuQ2xSAmiI/AAAAAAAAF9o/UCjHZxmGl5Q/s1600/will+smith+shocked.gif)
Poor old NDT have chalked up another trade!
Garrick Ibbotson + N42
For
N5 + Shaun Hampson + Ben Stratton
KB to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2013, 12:07:42 AM
Poor old NDT have chalked up another trade!
Garrick Ibbotson + N42
For
N5 + Shaun Hampson + Ben Stratton
KB to confirm.
confirmed
que the neggers
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2013, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2013, 12:07:42 AM
Poor old NDT have chalked up another trade!
Garrick Ibbotson + N42
For
N5 + Shaun Hampson + Ben Stratton
KB to confirm.
confirmed
que the neggers
Thought you were trying to get rucks not trade em away :P
Cause Hampson was really helpful this year ::)
will just wait for Tippett to get F/R status in 2015
Quote from: Jayman on October 14, 2013, 11:39:03 PM
Pacific give: Chris Dawes + Matthew Watson
PNL give: Phil Davis + NAT pick #65 + NAT pick #81
HP or Daz to confirm
Confirmed
We feel Davis has a great chance of improving his average as GWS improve to a 80 or 90 aver back but ATM his nothing but depth
But we also feel Watson can match him or better in the long run Watson is known for his great kicking skills which is a plus when it comes to scoring
Dawes had his worst year besides debut year last season and really is depth but with roos on board lets hope it turns him round
The 2 nat pick we feel wouldn't of been much use to us so late anyway
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2013, 12:17:07 AM
Cause Hampson was really helpful this year ::)
will just wait for Tippett to get F/R status in 2015
Regardless of whether he was good or not... ::)
Quote from: Master Q on October 15, 2013, 05:13:55 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 15, 2013, 12:17:07 AM
Cause Hampson was really helpful this year ::)
will just wait for Tippett to get F/R status in 2015
Regardless of whether he was good or not... ::)
your just butthurt cause you wanted him
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Phasi is no longer with us :(. Don't worry, doubt we'd do many more ;).
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 15, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Phasi is no longer with us :(. Don't worry, doubt we'd do many more ;).
Stop lying! He's with you in spirit. ;) :P
Oh noes! Phas-meister!? What did I miss??
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 14, 2013, 11:48:46 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-58sN4uuVJo8/UVuQ2xSAmiI/AAAAAAAAF9o/UCjHZxmGl5Q/s1600/will+smith+shocked.gif)
Just thought I'd post here to show my appreciation for both these comments :P
I know I'm a bit slack this week guys, crazy busy!
Quote from: NigeyS on October 15, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 15, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Phasi is no longer with us :(. Don't worry, doubt we'd do many more ;).
Stop lying! He's with you in spirit. ;) :P
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Oh noes! Phas-meister!? What did I miss??
Guess he's still with PNL in spirit, just not a working capacity as such.
This trade was sound a ground breaking deal, you'll see when Watson averages more Davis next season and Dawes wins the Coleman with Hogan getting the double team :P.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 16, 2013, 09:05:23 AM
I know I'm a bit slack this week guys, crazy busy!
Take your time Ossie, it is the off season and not like we've been having too much action on the trade front these past few days.
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 16, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 15, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 15, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Phasi is no longer with us :(. Don't worry, doubt we'd do many more ;).
Stop lying! He's with you in spirit. ;) :P
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Oh noes! Phas-meister!? What did I miss??
Guess he's still with PNL in spirit, just not a working capacity as such.
This trade was sound a ground breaking deal, you'll see when Watson averages more Davis next season and Dawes wins the Coleman with Hogan getting the double team :P.
If its that uneven I guess we better neg it :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 16, 2013, 11:35:27 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 16, 2013, 11:30:31 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 15, 2013, 08:06:58 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 15, 2013, 08:02:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 14, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
HP/Daz/Phas did a trade :o
Phasi is no longer with us :(. Don't worry, doubt we'd do many more ;).
Stop lying! He's with you in spirit. ;) :P
Quote from: elephants on October 15, 2013, 08:07:59 PM
Oh noes! Phas-meister!? What did I miss??
Guess he's still with PNL in spirit, just not a working capacity as such.
This trade was sound a ground breaking deal, you'll see when Watson averages more Davis next season and Dawes wins the Coleman with Hogan getting the double team :P.
If its that uneven I guess we better neg it :P
I better delete my comments to hide the awesomeness that is Watson + Dawes :-X. Who doesn't love that snugly man-beast named Chris Dawes?
(http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2011/03/19/1226024/695116-chris-dawes.jpg)
When asked for a comment, Matthew Watson just let out a gleeful moan.
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2011/03/23/1226026/631997-matthew-watson.jpg)
Confirmed - Sheridan is a way off at Royals and a third round pick may be useful
i can see the ele/ric combo will be competiton as i try and rack up the WA players.
have Walters Fyfe Mundy im looking to build on that.
Quote from: elephants on October 16, 2013, 03:09:31 PM
We give: Pick #41
Ringo gives: Tom Sheridan
Ringo to confirm.
Pretty sure I have Pick 41?
We give: Pick #43
Ringo gives: Tom Sheridan
Ringo to confirm.
Cobfirmed - Sheridan will assist the Tigers getting their cap up and is not required at the Royals in the short term. Pick 41 considered reasonable.
*Pick 43 but yep, all sorted :)
We give: Nick Duigan
Nige gives: Pick 34 + Rohan Bail
Nige to confirm.
Quote from: elephants on October 17, 2013, 11:31:05 PM
We give: Nick Duigan
Nige gives: Pick 34 + Rohan Bail
Nige to confirm.
Confirmed. 8)
Basically, Rohan Bail was a player we were gonna delist and 34 is either gonna be something or nothing. We get Duigan, who hopefully Mick gives another chance in 2014 to cement a spot in his 22 and then become depth for us.
Yay :)
Bail can score and might have a future under Roos and like Nige said, who knows what pick 34 will do! Given his age, Duigan wasn't hugely valuable to us.
Basically, this trade works for both teams and was ridiculously easy haha
Bail wasn't getting a game at Cairo any time soon.
Not with Mark Hutchings in our midfield anyway. ;D
Aaand he'll probably start for us :P
Should get around to sending trades for approval on the weekend :)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 18, 2013, 07:59:47 AM
Should get around to sending trades for approval on the weekend :)
Lol, its a very nervous wait :o
Quote from: Jayman on October 18, 2013, 08:01:25 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 18, 2013, 07:59:47 AM
Should get around to sending trades for approval on the weekend :)
Lol, its a very nervous wait :o
Tell me about it, I have three trades in this week :P
Get your votes in lads! Go go go!
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
Get your votes in lads! Go go go!
No mucking around on my end. ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 20, 2013, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
Get your votes in lads! Go go go!
No mucking around on my end. ;)
Haha neither :P
I'm quite busy at the moment studying for uni exams. Might leave it for a bit...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2013, 02:38:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 02:23:04 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 20, 2013, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 01:28:59 PM
Get your votes in lads! Go go go!
No mucking around on my end. ;)
Haha neither :P
I'm quite busy at the moment studying for uni exams. Might leave it for a bit...
Just pass em all ;) looks a pretty easy week to judge imo.
wonder if Holz knows he sent his votes to everyone lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
wonder if Holz knows he sent his votes to everyone lol
I think it was a tactical "accident". Says it's easy that they all pass so others start thinking that and don't stop to analyse the trade he has up for review ;)
Who hasn't voted? I am going to hunt them down.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2013, 05:44:29 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 20, 2013, 05:35:16 PM
wonder if Holz knows he sent his votes to everyone lol
I think it was a tactical "accident". Says it's easy that they all pass so others start thinking that and don't stop to analyse the trade he has up for review ;)
That's why you don't do it on your phone.
My trade is obviously a pass so I don't need to play mind games ;)
If it's such an obvious pass, then why did I neg it?
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:08:16 PM
If it's such an obvious pass, then why did I neg it?
Because your thretaned by Dublin.
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Pacific trade: Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
Dublin trade: Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
Neg on this trade.
Pick 78 essentially has zero worth. Tom Rockliff won't be a forward in the future. Maybe one more season. But with Leppa as a coach, he'll be mid only
Therefore
Last 3 seasons - Rockliff 103 average, Redden 101
Redden is (in terms of footy seasons) younger than Rockliff
Therefore Redden = Rockliff
78 = worthless
Therefore it comes down to
A guy who has played a max of 13 games in a season and has a terrible average for two guys who are both YOUNGER, actually get GAMES and actually average HIGHER
Yeah, no thanks. Neg on this trade. Redden = Rockliff (if Redden not slightly higher)
and other 2 good solid young players for a middle agedish useless flowering hack.
Didn't Rockliff average like 128 in the second half of the season?
If I was to neg it (which I didn't), it'd be the other way round :-X
Hmm that's some interesting thinking there Nails!
and that ladies and gentlemen is why i hate this voting system
Rockliff actually 106 last 3 years but my point still stands.
So Chumps?
He averaged 88 in the first half. How can you guarantee he won't go back to 88 average?
Jordan Gysberts averaged 110 in 2 games.
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
So Chumps?
He averaged 88 in the first half. How can you guarantee he won't go back to 88 average?
Because Rocky will be in the guts. You said it yourself with Leppa at the helm.. Not even remotely comparable to Jizz-Spurts.
BXV is the best system IMO. Not having a go at Ossie here! :)
But it's just Ringo and a trade committee that is in no way involved with BXV. Both sides get a chance to explain why it should be approved if it is leaning towards rejection.
The makers of don't hate the player, hate the game bring you:
Don't hate the system, hate the traders. :P
#banter
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:16:42 PM
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Pacific trade: Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
Dublin trade: Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
Neg on this trade.
Pick 78 essentially has zero worth. Tom Rockliff won't be a forward in the future. Maybe one more season. But with Leppa as a coach, he'll be mid only
Therefore
Last 3 seasons - Rockliff 103 average, Redden 101
Redden is (in terms of footy seasons) younger than Rockliff
Therefore Redden = Rockliff
78 = worthless
Therefore it comes down to
A guy who has played a max of 13 games in a season and has a terrible average for two guys who are both YOUNGER, actually get GAMES and actually average HIGHER
Yeah, no thanks. Neg on this trade. Redden = Rockliff (if Redden not slightly higher)
and other 2 good solid young players for a middle agedish useless flowering hack.
Do you truly believe rocky = redden
You say he will be mid only yet when you compare averages you include all the forward games. Rocky is better than Barlow so if redden is equal if not better.
How about redden for Barlow + much more.
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
So Chumps?
He averaged 88 in the first half. How can you guarantee he won't go back to 88 average?
Not even remotely comparable to Jizz-Spurts.
That really made me laugh ele haha lol ;D
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 20, 2013, 08:12:04 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 07:33:12 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:27:39 PM
So Chumps?
He averaged 88 in the first half. How can you guarantee he won't go back to 88 average?
Not even remotely comparable to Jizz-Spurts.
That really made me laugh ele haha lol ;D
Hahah that nickname was flogged a couple of years ago but I decided it needed a comeback :P
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
Its ok Nails, you don't have to fear Dublin ::) :P
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 08:16:27 PM
Its ok Nails, you don't have to fear Dublin ::) :P
Hypothetically speaking...
What if wasn't so much fearing Dublin as it was fearing the competition being a blowout or uneven if Dublin became 'too strong'.
#foodforthought
Quote from: NigeyS on October 20, 2013, 08:18:09 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 20, 2013, 08:16:27 PM
Its ok Nails, you don't have to fear Dublin ::) :P
Hypothetically speaking...
What if wasn't so much fearing Dublin as it was fearing the competition being a blowout or uneven if Dublin became 'too strong'.
#foodforthought
.. Nails? Think of others? Come on Nige :P
#banter
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
Your a lion fan so have to respect your opinion on this.
However I know what I'm doing.
Rocky I'm thinking of picking in my sc midfield next year.
His numbers when playing midfield are insane.
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 08:10:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 07:16:42 PM
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Pacific trade: Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
Dublin trade: Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
Neg on this trade.
Pick 78 essentially has zero worth. Tom Rockliff won't be a forward in the future. Maybe one more season. But with Leppa as a coach, he'll be mid only
Therefore
Last 3 seasons - Rockliff 103 average, Redden 101
Redden is (in terms of footy seasons) younger than Rockliff
Therefore Redden = Rockliff
78 = worthless
Therefore it comes down to
A guy who has played a max of 13 games in a season and has a terrible average for two guys who are both YOUNGER, actually get GAMES and actually average HIGHER
Yeah, no thanks. Neg on this trade. Redden = Rockliff (if Redden not slightly higher)
and other 2 good solid young players for a middle agedish useless flowering hack.
Do you truly believe rocky = redden
You say he will be mid only yet when you compare averages you include all the forward games. Rocky is better than Barlow so if redden is equal if not better.
How about redden for Barlow + much more.
If the teams were the other way around and Pacific were losing Redden + Hurley + Day then i would consider negging it but you need to take into consideration the rest of their list when analyzing a trade.
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
I have to say, this a worry. (Real SC wise.)
Quote from: vinny on October 20, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
I have to say, this a worry. (Real SC wise.)
Rich will attract a tag ans I would argue a lot of teams will actually go to redden over him.
I'm not sure he was actually that good to rack up the brownlow votes. I put him similar to swan, it's a joke swan got that many votes, pendles is twice the player swan is. Rocky gun fantasy but just a good player, not an elite.
I don't think the trade was uneven enough to neg, but no way will Redden get tagged as much as Rockliff, Holz :P
Dublin still aren't in the ballpark of Mexico/Pumas/Dillos
And if you can't see this will hurt Dublin for 2014 you're crazy
enjoy your 0 average reserves holz.
#sooomuchbanter
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Dublin still aren't in the ballpark of Mexico/Pumas/Dillos
And if you can't see this will hurt Dublin for 2014 you're crazy
enjoy your 0 average reserves holz.
I'm not in the pumas ball park I agree, that squad is insane. I'm not in the dillos either as I'm better
#banter
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 20, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
I have to say, this a worry. (Real SC wise.)
Rich will attract a tag ans I would argue a lot of teams will actually go to redden over him.
I'm not sure he was actually that good to rack up the brownlow votes. I put him similar to swan, it's a joke swan got that many votes, pendles is twice the player swan is. Rocky gun fantasy but just a good player, not an elite.
Regarding Brisbane tags with the retirement of Black - Rich will always attract the number 1 tag as no team will want that lethal left boot out in the open delivering the ball on a platter. 2nd tag imo will be a toss up between Hanley and Rocky with a slight leaning towards Hanley given the breakout Hanley had this year. He was starting to attract a tag in the last few games. My opinion for what it is worth.
Ringo is Mr Brisbane Lions so I am taking his word for it. :P
Rocky shall not get tagged folks.
Anyone who thinks Rocky=Redden is either an idiot or knows nothing about Fantasy Football. Rocky is way better than Redden.
Quote from: Ringo on October 20, 2013, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 20, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
I have to say, this a worry. (Real SC wise.)
Rich will attract a tag ans I would argue a lot of teams will actually go to redden over him.
I'm not sure he was actually that good to rack up the brownlow votes. I put him similar to swan, it's a joke swan got that many votes, pendles is twice the player swan is. Rocky gun fantasy but just a good player, not an elite.
Regarding Brisbane tags with the retirement of Black - Rich will always attract the number 1 tag as no team will want that lethal left boot out in the open delivering the ball on a platter. 2nd tag imo will be a toss up between Hanley and Rocky with a slight leaning towards Hanley given the breakout Hanley had this year. He was starting to attract a tag in the last few games. My opinion for what it is worth.
That is why Rich will never be a legit elite player in SC until he can break that tag :(. Such a shame, but he should attract the #1 tag because of the leg on him. I would love Rocky to get the #1 tag though, even Redden, anybody but Rich :P.
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Anyone who thinks Rocky=Redden is either an idiot or knows nothing about Fantasy Football. Rocky is way better than Redden.
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Quote from: Hellopplz on October 21, 2013, 01:47:19 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 20, 2013, 09:31:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 08:27:17 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 20, 2013, 08:24:01 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 08:15:46 PM
Rockliff will average shower next year
After his brownlow performance and actually getting midfield time he's #1 tagged 2014.
I have to say, this a worry. (Real SC wise.)
Rich will attract a tag ans I would argue a lot of teams will actually go to redden over him.
I'm not sure he was actually that good to rack up the brownlow votes. I put him similar to swan, it's a joke swan got that many votes, pendles is twice the player swan is. Rocky gun fantasy but just a good player, not an elite.
Regarding Brisbane tags with the retirement of Black - Rich will always attract the number 1 tag as no team will want that lethal left boot out in the open delivering the ball on a platter. 2nd tag imo will be a toss up between Hanley and Rocky with a slight leaning towards Hanley given the breakout Hanley had this year. He was starting to attract a tag in the last few games. My opinion for what it is worth.
That is why Rich will never be a legit elite player in SC until he can break that tag :(. Such a shame, but he should attract the #1 tag because of the leg on him. I would love Rocky to get the #1 tag though, even Redden, anybody but Rich :P.
Hit the nail on the head HP - Maybe blackie can take him under his wing now and give some expert advice.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 09:29:22 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on October 20, 2013, 10:03:55 PM
Anyone who thinks Rocky=Redden is either an idiot or knows nothing about Fantasy Football. Rocky is way better than Redden.
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Hahahahaha. Nailed it Nige. ;D ;D
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Dublin still aren't in the ballpark of Mexico/Pumas/Dillos
And if you can't see this will hurt Dublin for 2014 you're crazy
enjoy your 0 average reserves holz.
I'm not in the pumas ball park I agree, that squad is insane. I'm not in the dillos either as I'm better
#banter
Haha thanks Holz. Honestly don't know how I got a good squad, I think a lot of luck was involved! ???
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Dublin still aren't in the ballpark of Mexico/Pumas/Dillos
And if you can't see this will hurt Dublin for 2014 you're crazy
enjoy your 0 average reserves holz.
I'm not in the pumas ball park I agree, that squad is insane. I'm not in the dillos either as I'm better
#banter
Haha thanks Holz. Honestly don't know how I got a good squad, I think a lot of luck was involved! ???
If I get a lot of luck and have few injuries abd my squad improves abit I think I'm an outside shot at taking you out.
That is actually a crazy list you got there CF, heard alot about it but didnt look into it much until now. #teachme :P
Quote from: Holzman on October 21, 2013, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 20, 2013, 09:21:44 PM
Quote from: Nails on October 20, 2013, 09:02:20 PM
Dublin still aren't in the ballpark of Mexico/Pumas/Dillos
And if you can't see this will hurt Dublin for 2014 you're crazy
enjoy your 0 average reserves holz.
I'm not in the pumas ball park I agree, that squad is insane. I'm not in the dillos either as I'm better
#banter
Haha thanks Holz. Honestly don't know how I got a good squad, I think a lot of luck was involved! ???
If I get a lot of luck and have few injuries abd my squad improves abit I think I'm an outside shot at taking you out.
Lol any list could say that
Far out, waiting for this report is intense. It's hard when the Rocky trade is getting negged with completely different reasons e.g. Nails negging because I gain too much and others think Holz wins. ::)
CF's team should fold and all his players be spread across bottom 8 clubs ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2013, 08:56:15 PM
CF's team should fold and all his players should be awarded to the Dillos for their awesomeness. ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 21, 2013, 08:56:15 PM
CF's team should fold and all his players be spread across bottom 8 clubs ;)
Bottom 10. Would mean I get some players.
But then what would I get to do if my team folded? :'(
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
But then what would I get to do if my team folded? :'(
Join the mighty Dillos. :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
But then what would I get to do if my team folded? :'(
Prepare for APL 2015! :D
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 09:08:09 PM
But then what would I get to do if my team folded? :'(
Go join the all crows team at pacific with your bud tbag :P
Not a big fan of the suggestions so far (only LE's remotely interests me), but keep them coming in ;)
Prostitute your self out to all the teams
Be the SUPREME TRADES MASTER* and have the power to approve or neglect any trade you want! ;)
*Only apply if you promise to approve all of Beijing's trades, especially good ones like the last one we announced. :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 21, 2013, 10:17:14 PM
Prostitute your self out to all the teams
That legit made me laugh ;D.
Quote from: Toga on October 21, 2013, 10:18:41 PM
Be the SUPREME TRADES MASTER* and have the power to approve or neglect any trade you want! ;)
*Only apply if you promise to approve all of Beijing's trades, especially good ones like the last one we announced. :P
Can I do this AND keep my Puma team?
Ask Oz :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2013, 10:14:26 PM
Not a big fan of the suggestions so far (only LE's remotely interests me), but keep them coming in ;)
Join Cairo... just bring GAJ with you though. ;)
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
Wait for ablett to retire and succumb to the destroyers?
Sound like s good plan.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Woukdnt say bottom side is a negative, less players to steal points off him. Look at ablett griffen montagna rocky etc...
Has 5 years left and 92 is pretty decent.
Quote from: Holzman on October 22, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Woukdnt say bottom side is a negative, less players to steal points off him. Look at ablett griffen montagna rocky etc...
Has 5 years left and 92 is pretty decent.
Think ablett, griffen, tags and rocky are in a different class to Armitage lol.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 22, 2013, 12:08:47 AM
Quote from: Holzman on October 22, 2013, 12:01:32 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Woukdnt say bottom side is a negative, less players to steal points off him. Look at ablett griffen montagna rocky etc...
Has 5 years left and 92 is pretty decent.
Think ablett, griffen, tags and rocky are in a different class to Armitage lol.
I would say the sane about mid tier players and armitage.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Nothing too amazing, but also nothing just plain stupid. Like for like in terms of potential and scoring ability, if possible. Granted, there probably aren't too many players that fit the bill there.
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Nothing too amazing, but also nothing just plain stupid. Like for like in terms of potential and scoring ability, if possible. Granted, there probably aren't too many players that fit the bill there.
So you're trading Armitage to get a player pretty much exactly the same as Armitage? #genius
I'm more or less shopping him around to see what offers we get.
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Nothing too amazing, but also nothing just plain stupid. Like for like in terms of potential and scoring ability, if possible. Granted, there probably aren't too many players that fit the bill there.
So you're trading Armitage to get a player pretty much exactly the same as Armitage? #genius
Maybee they are in another position?
Quote from: Holzman on October 22, 2013, 08:31:29 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 07:06:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 22, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 21, 2013, 11:55:41 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 21, 2013, 10:54:03 PM
Gonna table David Armitage, would like some serious and decent offers, want a mid in return.
What kind of offers do you expect for a middle aged, mid tier midfielder in a bottom side? ???
Nothing too amazing, but also nothing just plain stupid. Like for like in terms of potential and scoring ability, if possible. Granted, there probably aren't too many players that fit the bill there.
So you're trading Armitage to get a player pretty much exactly the same as Armitage? #genius
Maybee they are in another position?
Look up. He says he wants a mid.
Look up Jay, you double posted #genius ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
Look up Jay, you double posted #genius ;)
Not sure what you're talking about?
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 09:11:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
Look up Jay, you double posted #genius ;)
Not sure what you're talking about?
#witness
#thankskb #copitJay
#YouAreASuckUpKB #PacificSmashTheTigersEle
Pacific? More like Specific.
#boom
#dothecrimedothetime
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:30:55 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 09:25:42 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 22, 2013, 09:13:24 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 22, 2013, 09:11:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on October 22, 2013, 09:03:57 PM
Look up Jay, you double posted #genius ;)
Not sure what you're talking about?
#witness
#thankskb #copitJay
#YouAreASuckUpKB #PacificSmashTheTigersEle
Pacific? More like Specific.
#boom
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090316224614AAqFEu4
any trades passed or negged yet Ossie?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 24, 2013, 09:52:15 AM
any trades passed or negged yet Ossie?
Yep! Still waiting on two more coaches Hellopplz and pyronerd/Sid
Processing them now......
All pass (unless some cap issue happens...) Will finalise probably on Sat
:D
Are we still miles under the minimum cap?? Must be getting closer
Haha very slowly but surely ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 24, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
All pass (unless some cap issue happens...) Will finalise probably on Sat
:D #FlowerTheNeggers
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 24, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
All pass (unless some cap issue happens...) Will finalise probably on Sat
:D #FlowerTheNeggers
This'll be interesting.
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 24, 2013, 05:28:59 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 24, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
All pass (unless some cap issue happens...) Will finalise probably on Sat
:D #FlowerTheNeggers
This'll be interesting.
How so?
I reckon it'll be interesting to see whether trading out your best player works out, whether all the trades you've made actually pay off and whether all the draft picks you've acquired are used wisely. :)
Don't be racist tbag. :P
yabba dabba doo
Quote from: NigeyS on October 24, 2013, 06:01:24 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 05:58:31 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 24, 2013, 05:28:59 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 05:18:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 24, 2013, 01:52:52 PM
All pass (unless some cap issue happens...) Will finalise probably on Sat
:D #FlowerTheNeggers
This'll be interesting.
How so?
I reckon it'll be interesting to see whether trading out your best player works out, whether all the trades you've made actually pay off and whether all the draft picks you've acquired are used wisely. :)
We know what we're doing. Just happy you finally didnt get your way in negging basically all our trades.
Redden, Hurley, Jenkins, Day, Davis... Come on down :D :D
i think we worked out our points cap that's why we gave Stratton to
Yeah mate that's right ^
Welcome Nick Duigan, please don't leave us...
Hehe Nicholas was tough to say goodbye to! He's a loyal bloke so you should be right ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 07:54:17 PM
Hehe Nicholas was tough to say goodbye to! He's a loyal bloke so you should be right ;)
Might seek greener pastures if he doesn't get Cairo first team action. We'll make him Alexandria's vice captain anyway. ;)
Wow, the Islanders have been active this trade period! Here's a rundown:
OUT: Tom Rockliff + Tom Nicholls + Jack Viney + Shane Savage + Sam Reid + Chris Dawes + Zach Williams + Dan Talia + Jackson Paine + Luke Delaney + Matt Watson + pick 25 + pick 42 + pick 60 + pick 78
IN: Jack Redden + Michael Hurley + Jarryd Blair + Lee Spurr + Lindsay Thomas + Andy Otten + Sam Day + Josh Jenkins + Phil Davis + Terry Milera + pick 8 + pick 15 + pick 25 + pick 65 + pick 81
Took a lot of work, but I reckon we've improved our list :)
OUT Lewis Jetta, McGlynn, Pick 26, Hampson, Stratton, pick 5
IN Broughton, Dawson Simpson, Clisby, Pick 90, Ibbotson, Pick 42
that's our wrap up i think we have traded to cater for team needs like hopefully a better ruck and defense and i'm pretty happy
Judd still on the table
think our first pick is 42 lol
OUT: Sam Kerridge, Pick #23, Pick #77
IN: Danny Stanley, Matt Jones, Lewis Stevenson, Alipate Carlile
Think we've done alright as well, hopefully we'll get a few more through before trading ends. :)
We've ended up with a stacked fwd line now, so if anyone needs some help there, we might be able to suffice. Our rucks are set but we probably need another starting back and maybe some decent young mid depth.
Always open to discussions :)
IN: Lachie Henderson, pick 60
OUT: Dayne Zorko
Busy trading period :P
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We've ended up with a stacked fwd line now, so if anyone needs some help there, we might be able to suffice. Our rucks are set but we probably need another starting back and maybe some decent young mid depth.
Always open to discussions :)
pm JROO8 was just asking me for forwards
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 24, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We've ended up with a stacked fwd line now, so if anyone needs some help there, we might be able to suffice. Our rucks are set but we probably need another starting back and maybe some decent young mid depth.
Always open to discussions :)
pm JROO8 was just asking me for forwards
What team is he even at? haha
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:38:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 24, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We've ended up with a stacked fwd line now, so if anyone needs some help there, we might be able to suffice. Our rucks are set but we probably need another starting back and maybe some decent young mid depth.
Always open to discussions :)
pm JROO8 was just asking me for forwards
What team is he even at? haha
is macas assistant
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:38:07 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 24, 2013, 08:36:48 PM
Quote from: Jayman on October 24, 2013, 08:31:15 PM
We've ended up with a stacked fwd line now, so if anyone needs some help there, we might be able to suffice. Our rucks are set but we probably need another starting back and maybe some decent young mid depth.
Always open to discussions :)
pm JROO8 was just asking me for forwards
What team is he even at? haha
Thanks KB, yeah I'm Maca's assistant.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 24, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
IN: Lachie Henderson, pick 60
OUT: Dayne Zorko
Busy trading period :P
IN: Jake Stringer, Ben Jacobs
OUT: Mitch Duncan
Just as busy :D
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 24, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 24, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
IN: Lachie Henderson, pick 60
OUT: Dayne Zorko
Busy trading period :P
IN: Jake Stringer, Ben Jacobs
OUT: Mitch Duncan
Just as busy :D
Don't forget pick 57! ;)
Quote from: elephants on October 24, 2013, 08:48:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 24, 2013, 08:43:36 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 24, 2013, 08:34:15 PM
IN: Lachie Henderson, pick 60
OUT: Dayne Zorko
Busy trading period :P
IN: Jake Stringer, Ben Jacobs
OUT: Mitch Duncan
Just as busy :D
Don't forget pick 57! ;)
Haha damn. Guess I've been busier :P
Jeez calm down with the trades CF! Such a busy trader I can hardly keep up... :P
Anybody interested in Sam Mitchell and Judd as a package deal?
after a premo ruck or a good young mid
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 25, 2013, 12:07:15 AM
Anybody interested in Sam Mitchell and Judd as a package deal?
after a premo ruck or a good young mid
Hmm do I do a nail and take the easy way out and just go for a flag and screw the future.
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 25, 2013, 12:07:15 AM
Anybody interested in Sam Mitchell and Judd as a package deal?
after a premo ruck or a good young mid
Hmm do I do a nail and take the easy way out and just go for a flag and screw the future.
Sam Mitchell + Judd for Jelwood
the Selwood brothers would be at the same club like you always wanted :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 25, 2013, 01:27:05 AM
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:18:10 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 25, 2013, 12:07:15 AM
Anybody interested in Sam Mitchell and Judd as a package deal?
after a premo ruck or a good young mid
Hmm do I do a nail and take the easy way out and just go for a flag and screw the future.
Sam Mitchell + Judd for Jelwood
the Selwood brothers would be at the same club like you always wanted :P
not unless they find the fountain of eternal youth.
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
I thought you were the one who was always saying you had lost depth?
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
Murphy and Delaney are shakey too :P
Quote from: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
Murphy and Delaney are shakey too :P
Bob Murphy... shaky? :o
Quote from: NigeyS on October 25, 2013, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
Murphy and Delaney are shakey too :P
Bob Murphy... shaky? :o
Not the best choice of words. I'd say he's just below premium status at, what, 31? He isn't getting any younger...
All trades pass officially
Lists updated on front of page
Quote from: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 25, 2013, 05:05:19 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
Murphy and Delaney are shakey too :P
Bob Murphy... shaky? :o
Not the best choice of words. I'd say he's just below premium status at, what, 31? He isn't getting any younger...
Below premium? He was in my SC team at the end of the year. Definitely snoring as a premium.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 26, 2013, 10:06:27 AM
Below premium? He was in my SC team at the end of the year. Definitely snoring as a premium.
What, he was a premium in his dreams? :P
Sao Paulo trade: Seb Tape
Moscow trade: Pick 33
CF to confirm
Quote from: Jukes on October 26, 2013, 02:31:16 PM
Sao Paulo trade: Seb Tape
Moscow trade: Pick 33
CF to confirm
Confirmed. Tape is a fringe player at best for me (3 games in 2 years), so might as well take a draft pick for him. Has the potential to be a solid scorer though, but thought it was time to move him on.
just to be sure
does this work the same as BXV regarding rookie draft
so Tokyo should have pick 5 in the rookie draft?
Yep. So Tokyo will have picks 5, 23, 41 and 59 in the rookie draft
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 26, 2013, 09:25:45 PM
Yep. So Tokyo will have picks 5, 23, 41 and 59 in the rookie draft
Thanks ;D
Quote from: Master Q on October 25, 2013, 05:00:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 25, 2013, 01:51:53 AM
in: Michael Walters, Nat Fyfe, Grant Birchall, Charlie Dixon, Robert Murphy, Shaun Grigg, Jobe Watson, Tom Rockliff, Luke Delaney and Pick 78
out: Jesse Hogan, Sam Docherty, Jaeger O'Meara, Pick 31, Aaron Black, Shaun Atley, Pick 10, Pick 49, Zach Clarke, Pick 67, Jed Anderson, Jed Lamb, Brad Hill, Lachy Plowman, Jack Redden, Michael Hurley and Sam Day
9 players in 13 out.
so 4 players leaving and considering 1 is hogan i only lose 3 players from my squad this year and the guys i brought in are best 22 so i dont understand all the losing depth comments.
lamb. hill, plowman, hurley are shakey anyway so could argue i have gained depth.
Murphy and Delaney are shakey too :P
Delaney at stkila is lock 22. Murphy is still a gun, 99 average I'm expecting 90 average from 18+ games.
in an effort to increase our points cap can we offer late picks for players that have retired?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 07:16:00 PM
in an effort to increase our points cap can we offer late picks for players that have retired?
If they've retired, rthey're not gonna be playing next year... and I don't think you can have players on your list that aren't even in the AFL mate. :P
bloody annoying we want to trade Judd and Mitchell but cant damn injuries and suspensions :'(
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 07:29:36 PM
bloody annoying we want to trade Judd and Mitchell but cant damn injuries and suspensions :'(
You can get delisted ones as far as I am aware. They still have a chance of playing ;)
Quote from: Master Q on October 27, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 07:29:36 PM
bloody annoying we want to trade Judd and Mitchell but cant damn injuries and suspensions :'(
You can get delisted ones as far as I am aware. They still have a chance of playing ;)
hmm Jolly the only one on that list worth trying for lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 27, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 07:29:36 PM
bloody annoying we want to trade Judd and Mitchell but cant damn injuries and suspensions :'(
You can get delisted ones as far as I am aware. They still have a chance of playing ;)
hmm Jolly the only one on that list worth trying for lol
Sorry but not happening haha I need the big fella
Rodan, Embley available if you want.. Along with some delisted fellas.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 27, 2013, 08:05:39 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 27, 2013, 07:48:27 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 07:29:36 PM
bloody annoying we want to trade Judd and Mitchell but cant damn injuries and suspensions :'(
You can get delisted ones as far as I am aware. They still have a chance of playing ;)
hmm Jolly the only one on that list worth trying for lol
Sorry but not happening haha I need the big fella
Rodan, Embley available if you want.. Along with some delisted fellas.
Setanta!
You can have Ashton Hams if you really want retired players, kb. :P
so we can do it? trade in retired players still on a WXV List ?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
so we can do it? trade in retired players still on a WXV List ?
I think you'd stuggle to get that approved....
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
so we can do it? trade in retired players still on a WXV List ?
If you think they'll do a Ben Hudson... yes.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 27, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
so we can do it? trade in retired players still on a WXV List ?
I think you'd stuggle to get that approved....
awww but ....
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:20:08 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 27, 2013, 08:18:26 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 27, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
so we can do it? trade in retired players still on a WXV List ?
I think you'd stuggle to get that approved....
awww but ....
You realise though you will then have to delist them and pick up random shower at the very end of the draft since you have no higher picks left. Stupid idea really.
it's so we can trade Mitchell and Judd brilliant idea i think if it was possible
As ossie said I think the majority would reject the trade.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 27, 2013, 08:30:24 PM
As ossie said I think the majority would reject the trade.
If it's for a late late pick or even PSD pick and there's a chance the player could do a Hudson or defect to a season or two at one of the expansion teams then I think it's alright?
I traded pick 86 for David Rodan last year after he was delisted by Port (or did he retire?), on the off chance he'd find a new home and he did.
And I traded in Ben Hudson as well in last years trade period.
Quote from: Ringo on October 27, 2013, 09:22:27 PM
And I traded in Ben Hudson as well in last years trade period.
Don't remind me, he'd be handy at the moment.
and in a massive trade
YES PNL have made another trade :O :O
with New York
it see's
PNL gives: Justin Westoff, Luke Ball, Nat #6
NY Gives : Tom Liberatore, Trent Mckenzie and Nat #25
Reason: We been looking for another young mid to bolster the middle and were going to go for one with pick 6 anyways
and mckenzie will help with the defense as it seems myers may lose dpp
westy while a massive gun forward we feel out most depth and potential is in our forward line meaning we could part with him
Quote from: DazBurg on October 27, 2013, 09:42:34 PM
and in a massive trade
YES PNL have made another trade :O :O
with New York
it see's
PNL gives: Justin Westoff, Luke Ball, Nat #6
NY Gives : Tom Liberatore, Trent Mckenzie and Nat #25
Reason: We been looking for another young mid to bolster the middle and were going to go for one with pick 6 anyways
and mckenzie will help with the defense as it seems myers may lose dpp
westy while a massive gun forward we feel out most depth and potential is in our forward line meaning we could part with him
Confirmed.
We're desperate for more forward quality and Westhoff is a top 10 forward so he gives us that. Ball for Liberatore is a loss but iltimately I think we'll only lose about 5 PPG there and with #6 I think we will be able to pick up a top line mid that can make immediate impact.
This draft is too challow for #25 to be worth much, we just used it to push the trade through.
Good trade for PNL.
Good trade boys!
New York give: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo give: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
Reason from Cairo: I was shopping around David Armitage and Ax said Prestia could possibly be traded. I also wanted Giles because we have Mumford. Brodie Smith was also up for sale and was going fairly cheaply, so I offered Josh Gibson who Ax happily accepted to compensate for the loss of a defender. We acquired Stokes this trade period and were planning on using him, but Ax asked for Stokes because he can pair him up with Christo. Kerridge is an add on to even out the trade along with the upgrade of Pick 65 to Pick 55 because the players we are getting are younger than those being received from New York.
Reason from New York: Basically what Nige said above. I was thinking of doing a fire sale of thoughts, but thought that would be too extreme. Instead, I floated a few names, some of which he knocked back. Armitage has potential to be the No.2 mid at the Saints (if he isn't already) behind Steven. Stokes averaged nicely this season and should work well, especially now that we have both him and Christensen. Gibson is a good substitute for the loss of Brodie, even if he a lot older. Kerridge is really just extra to even things out as it may be seen as us giving a bit away.
Ax/AFEV/Sid to confirm.
NY getting raped
Quote from: nrich102 on October 27, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
NY getting raped
I really don't think so.
It was difficult to put together, but we worked on it to make it as even as we could and make everyone happy. :)
Pacific give: 24 + 81
Sao Paula give: Brad Sheppard + 39 + 75
This trade helps us improve our mid depth a bit. CF to confirm :)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 27, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
New York give: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo give: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
Reason from Cairo: I was shopping around David Armitage and Ax said Prestia could possibly be traded. I also wanted Giles because we have Mumford. Brodie Smith was also up for sale and was going fairly cheaply, so I offered Josh Gibson who Ax happily accepted to compensate for the loss of a defender. We acquired Stokes this trade period and were planning on using him, but Ax asked for Stokes because he can pair him up with Christo. Kerridge is an add on to even out the trade along with the upgrade of Pick 65 to Pick 55 because the players we are getting are younger than those being received from New York.
Reason from New York: Basically what Nige said above. I was thinking of doing a fire sale of thoughts, but thought that would be too extreme. Instead, I floated a few names, some of which he knocked back. Armitage has potential to be the No.2 mid at the Saints (if he isn't already) behind Steven. Stokes averaged nicely this season and should work well, especially now that we have both him and Christensen. Gibson is a good substitute for the loss of Brodie, even if he a lot older. Kerridge is really just extra to even things out as it may be seen as us giving a bit away.
Ax/AFEV/Sid to confirm.
Confirmed.
Confirmed. Wanted to get a higher draft pick and used Sheppard to do it. I'm sure one day he will be a great scorer, but right now he is well behind the rest of my mids (except Raines). Picks 75 and 81 swapped to please tbag who didn't just want Shep + 39 for 24. To me they are negligible ;)
Thanks for replying to my PM about mckenzie sid. I will not be trading with you anymore.
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 28, 2013, 07:14:50 AM
Thanks for replying to my PM about mckenzie sid. I will not be trading with you anymore.
yeah few coaches around like that
Quote from: NigeyS on October 27, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
New York give: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo give: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
Reason from Cairo: I was shopping around David Armitage and Ax said Prestia could possibly be traded. I also wanted Giles because we have Mumford. Brodie Smith was also up for sale and was going fairly cheaply, so I offered Josh Gibson who Ax happily accepted to compensate for the loss of a defender. We acquired Stokes this trade period and were planning on using him, but Ax asked for Stokes because he can pair him up with Christo. Kerridge is an add on to even out the trade along with the upgrade of Pick 65 to Pick 55 because the players we are getting are younger than those being received from New York.
Reason from New York: Basically what Nige said above. I was thinking of doing a fire sale of thoughts, but thought that would be too extreme. Instead, I floated a few names, some of which he knocked back. Armitage has potential to be the No.2 mid at the Saints (if he isn't already) behind Steven. Stokes averaged nicely this season and should work well, especially now that we have both him and Christensen. Gibson is a good substitute for the loss of Brodie, even if he a lot older. Kerridge is really just extra to even things out as it may be seen as us giving a bit away.
Ax/AFEV/Sid to confirm.
I'm not part of Worlds and am just browsing this thread because I'm bored but you guys realise the trade says Jed Anderson not Sam Kerridge right?
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 30, 2013, 12:43:34 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 27, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
New York give: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo give: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
I'm not part of Worlds and am just browsing this thread because I'm bored but you guys realise the trade says Jed Anderson not Sam Kerridge right?
Good pick up! What's the deal guys?
Also... allowing picks 40 and 43 to pass, 41 and 42 are in interesting positions.
Waiting for Maca24, Nails and pothead
So 40 and 43 are not using there picks?
Tokyo have 42 and 44 :)
They are our first picks lol
Think Ossie suffering from late night with new bub. Think he means trades not picks.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 30, 2013, 07:53:01 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on October 30, 2013, 12:43:34 AM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 27, 2013, 09:54:52 PM
New York give: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo give: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
I'm not part of Worlds and am just browsing this thread because I'm bored but you guys realise the trade says Jed Anderson not Sam Kerridge right?
Good pick up! What's the deal guys?
Yeah, sorry about that. What's stated in the trade itself is right. We originally had Kerridge being in the deal but changed it to Jed Anderson. Apologies for that. :-X
Quote from: Ringo on October 30, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
Think Ossie suffering from late night with new bub. Think he means trades not picks.
Oh yeah that makes sense lol
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 10:13:18 AM
Quote from: Ringo on October 30, 2013, 09:57:10 AM
Think Ossie suffering from late night with new bub. Think he means trades not picks.
Oh yeah that makes sense lol
+ Ringo on the money!
I'm half asleep still kinda jumped to conclusions :o
I'm ready for the inevitable and to be put out of my misery. :P
Each team's rookies btw...
Some team have more or less than 4 because they have since been traded.
When we do our list lodgements (a while away), each coach needs to decide to...
- delist
- promote to senior list (and effectively get one less pick in international draft)
- keep on rookie list (can only do this 2 years in a row)
You can have no more than 4 rookies. If you have no rookies, you get 4 picks in the rookie draft. 4 rookies, you get none.
Beijing
Cornelius Aaron
Hunter Hal
Naismith Sam
Speight Benjamin
Berlin
Minchington Darren
Brown Nathan
Shenton Cameron
Buenos Aires
Osborn Jack
Redfern Joseph
Schulz Sam
Tunbridge Simon
Cairo
Bourke Jordan
Dowdell Ben
Hartigan Kyle
Marsh Harrison
Cape Town
Austin Mark
Ah Chee Brendon
Pierce Lewis
Dublin
Orval Dylan
Taberner Matthew
Warren Max
London
Rampe Dane
Brand Kaiden
Dalgleish Lachlan
Gregory Sean
Mexico City
Blicavs Mark
Curren Tom
Jack Brandon
Butcher Danny
Moscow
Burbury George
Wilson Blayne
Hogan Jesse
Joyce Nicholas
Menegola Sam
Wallace Eric
New Delhi
Ferguson Jackson
Helbig Bradley
Kelly Jordan
McCarthy Lincoln
Williams Zachary
New York
Nicholls Tom
Colledge Brant
Klaosen Tim
Richmond Ben
Williams Cadeyn
Pacific
Frost Jack
Oxley Adam
PNL
Boseley Andrew
Davis Luke
McKenzie Brad
Richards Xavier
Sao Paulo
Newton Ben
Riley Aiden
Schloithe Haiden
Yagmoor Peter
Seoul
Grimley Sam
Hitchcock Cameron
Lever Jay
Wanganeen Derick
Tokyo
Clisby Mitchell
Frank Amos
Gleeson Martin
Mitchell Luke
Robinson Daniel
Toronto
Curran Tom
Jonas Thomas
Salter Nick
Whiley Mark
Wellington
Davies Marcus
Howson Alex
Richardson Cameron
Wearden Patrick
Hawks delisted Amos Frank didn't they?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Hawks delisted Amos Frank didn't they?
you have to delist them if you want them off the list.
wish I had Moscows rookies
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Hawks delisted Amos Frank didn't they?
Players could theoretically get picked up again, so you have to delist them. Once AFL lists have been finalised, any player that doesn't have an AFL list will be forcefully delisted from WXV
Yeah I know was just seeing if they did
Seoul give James Kelly
Buenos Aires give pick 16
good to see buenos aires looking after their future like always.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
Seoul give James Kelly
Buenos Aires give pick 16
confirmed
The most important future is the immediate future and this will help heaps.
Can we promote Clisby now?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 11:03:10 AM
Can we promote Clisby now?
I think you can express your intentions to do so but not actually do so at the moment.
Quote from: Holzman on October 30, 2013, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Hawks delisted Amos Frank didn't they?
you have to delist them if you want them off the list.
wish I had Moscows rookies
Mexico's aren't bad either...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 30, 2013, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Holzman on October 30, 2013, 10:41:09 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 30, 2013, 10:35:37 AM
Hawks delisted Amos Frank didn't they?
you have to delist them if you want them off the list.
wish I had Moscows rookies
Mexico's aren't bad either...
I reckon London's are pretty decent too.
Just letting you all know I think I am done with my trading. Feel free to still approach me about players, but highly likely that I won't be making another trade before the drafts.
*Until positions are official and I discover every single player I have is a mid...
Quote from: Nails on October 30, 2013, 10:58:51 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
Seoul give James Kelly
Buenos Aires give pick 16
confirmed
The most important future is the immediate future and this will help heaps.
true to an extent, i guess we dont have to worry about pleasing fans or making sure people turn up to games, like they do in the AFL.
Sid gives: Gaff + Greene + Nat 29
For
Ele gives: Nat 4 + Nat 5 + Nat 63
Sid to confirmation.
Quote from: elephants on October 30, 2013, 06:15:10 PM
Sid gives: Gaff + Greene + Nat 29
For
Ele gives: Nat 4 + Nat 5 + Nat 63
Sid to confirmation.
Indeed.
Gaff will struggle with the tag for his whole career I think, he's so damaging it won't matter if the WC midfield gets better. Because of this I don't think he'll ever go far beyond maybe a 95 ave. Expendable.
Greene I think will fade into obscurity in what will be a ridiculous Giants midfield.
We now have NT 4, 5, 6.
Yep and we love Gaffy, short term he will struggle with the tag (especially now there is no Kerr) but backing him to slay tags once he gets uses to them.
Greeney is great at finding the pill and was forced to work on the defensive side of his game this season but he will bounce back I'm sure, even if SC ain't his game!
Update per favore?
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 12:44:30 PM
Update per favore?
Waiting on just the one - pothead.
Amazingly, both trades still in a bit of limbo... but I'll likely make the final call today or tomorrow
Quote from: ossie85 on October 31, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 31, 2013, 12:44:30 PM
Update per favore?
Waiting on just the one - pothead.
Amazingly, both trades still in a bit of limbo... but I'll likely make the final call today or tomorrow
:o :-\ :'( Cheers Os!
Final call today would be good, been an agonising wait to say the least. :-X
This is the first trade all period that I've made that I actually have been worried about. :P
cant even remember voting or not voting lol
Right, excluding pothead, each of these trades have had 5 votes against. Meaning depending on which way pothead votes, either they get rejected by the people (but I can overturn), or they get passed by the people (but I can reject). Either way I get the final say.... So here goes...
Trade 41:
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
Trade 42:
New York trade: Dion Prestia, Jonathan Giles, Brodie Smith and Pick 65
Cairo trade: David Armitage, Mathew Stokes, Josh Gibson, Jed Anderson and Pick 55
Since both involve New York, will decide on both simultaneously....
New York seem intent on trading away there midfielders - with Liberatore, Prestia, Gaff and Greene all being put up for trade. This will leave them (based on who they are trading for and 2013 positions) a core midfield of Luke Ball, Adam Treloar, Allen Christensen, Koby Stevens, Harley Bennell, David Armitage, Jed Anderson (and I'll through in Matthew Stokes based on his midfield time this year).
Trading away one of there best defenders Trent McKenzie (assuming stays a defender) for a forward Justin Westhoff I could argue as rougly even. Leaving Tom Liberatore = Luke Ball plus moving to Pick 6 in the draft.... Luke Ball is at the end of his career, Liberatore about to have a break-out... tough call, but Pick 6 could also be a star and coaches can take the risks they want.
For PNL, they've added a superstar midfielder and a lost a key forward. There midfield would be fine either way, but it is there forward line I'm worried about. Leaving them with a coreforward group of Rioli, TT Lynch, Liam Jones, Matt Pavlich, Chris Dawes and Jonathan Patton. Not a strong list, but with Liberatore added to a midfield consisting of young guns Chad Wingard, Kade Simpson, Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones and Dylan Shiel.... Given Wingard likely gets forward status next year... I think it's fine.
Cairo trade some reliable depth players for a star....
So long story short, not a huge fan of the trades, but will let them both pass.
Thank you Os! :)
Man, PNL pull of the best deal of all time.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 31, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
Trading away one of there best defenders Trent McKenzie (assuming stays a defender) for a forward Justin Westhoff I could argue as rougly even. Leaving Tom Liberatore = Luke Ball plus moving to Pick 6 in the draft.... Luke Ball is at the end of his career, Liberatore about to have a break-out... tough call, but Pick 6 could also be a star and coaches can take the risks they want.
For PNL, they've added a superstar midfielder and a lost a key forward. There midfield would be fine either way, but it is there forward line I'm worried about. Leaving them with a coreforward group of Rioli, TT Lynch, Liam Jones, Matt Pavlich, Chris Dawes and Jonathan Patton. Not a strong list, but with Liberatore added to a midfield consisting of young guns Chad Wingard, Kade Simpson, Matt Priddis, Nathan Jones and Dylan Shiel.... Given Wingard likely gets forward status next year... I think it's fine.
Given PNL were in search for a Potential young captain choice, knew we had to give a bit to get him! Leaves our actual forward line relying on a lot of potential for the youngsters (forgot to mention Casboult and Grant in there). Have faith in a few of them to step up, can certainly see the Doggies Grant/Jones combo lifting now that Crameri has gone there. Wingard likely to get Forward status helps. Westy = McKenzie is what we saw as well, Westy is a top 10 forward and McKenzie a top 20 back, but scoring backs are harder to come by than forwards :-X. Westy coming off a career best season so thought we'd sell high ;). We have a fairly young list now besides Pav/McPharlin/Simpson so was our plan to start getting in some younger guys and out with a few oldies.
Although not going the Armadillos path and trading for oldies, no way we're able to compete for the title at the moment :P.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 31, 2013, 01:39:19 PM
Cairo trade some reliable depth players for a star....
Just in regard to this. I just updated our list. Our lines are pretty even in terms of numbers for each line (10 backs, 11 mids, 4 rucks and 11 forwards). The depth isn't bad and I'm confident we can grab a few decent players from the draft. I did make sure of this before I went ahead with the deal. I knew that it could have been detrimental, thankfully it was not. 8)
Just a quick one, Libba averaged 119 in his last 10 games this season... and he's 21.
Westhoff averaged 98 this year (largely due to the 140 average he had after the first 4 games - more than a quarter of his total points for the season) and is 27.
McKenzie averaged 88 and is 21.
and well, HP said it for me...
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 31, 2013, 03:19:40 PM
scoring backs are harder to come by than forwards :-X
#sorryalex #procrastinating #pissingossieoffwithmyhashtags
Yea no idea how it passed and others didn't
We negged both trades.
NY got DEMOLISHED. Wow.
That PNL trade is insane.
I think the Cairo - NYR trade is completely fair.
Quote from: Master Q on October 31, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
We negged both trades.
NY got DEMOLISHED. Wow.
That PNL trade is insane.
Cairo trade was fairer but have to admit, the NY & PNL trade is pretty interesting.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 31, 2013, 05:31:39 PM
I think the Cairo - NYR trade is completely fair.
We think too alike MC lol
PNL trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
New York trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
The worst trade in WXVs history. For sure. No doubt about it. Worst trade EVER.
Ossie's (I think ossie is collingwood) magpie bias perhaps?
Westhoff = 27yo, old and only 1 good season from many seasons. 98.6 average this year
Luke Ball = 30 next year, old, more or less AS INJURY PRONE AS IT GETS (15 games last 2 seasons) ~100 average
Pick 6
vs.
Liberatore 117.5 average in his last 13 games, 21yo so good 10+ years left (Double what Westhoff and Ball have combined), Will be team captain therefore doubled average as well. Overall 107 average for the season
McKenzie 88.6 average 21yo, so good for 10+ years left. Of defenders that played 15 or more games McKenzie is 16th highest and Westhoff is 10th highest. Once you factor in age difference McKenzie clearly worth more.
Also have to factor in that Liberatore was a top 18 player in the entire competition. That's not just including his run home. His whole season was top 18.
IMO If there was a new draft for SC liberatore would be a top 5 pick from the whole competition. Not just a NAT draft.
IMO Liberatore OR McKenzie > Ball AND Westhoff once you factor in ages and injury proneness and once in a lifetime scoring
Therefore the leftover significantly worth more than pick 6 alone and add pick 25 on top?
Worst trade worlds has ever seen.
Yeah I agree, that is an absolutely terrible trade. Shocker.
Sorry fellas! :-\
Quote from: Nails on October 31, 2013, 08:40:12 PM
The worst trade in WXVs history. For sure. No doubt about it. Worst trade EVER
Worst trade worlds has ever seen.
Listen PNL/NYR, you had a one sided trade, and imma let you finish, but Cape Town had one of the most one sided trades of all time!
My Chumps trades Robert Murphy, Jarrad McVeigh and Stephen Hill to Cookie Monster for Trent Cotchin, Josh P Kennedy and Ryan O'Keefe (confirmed)
(http://www.thisgoesin.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Kanye-West-Rant.jpg)
Hahahaha wow. The ultimate win.
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Yeah it wasn't great...
(http://i.imgur.com/0HbHBFV.png)
Yeah, in hindsight I probs should've negged. AFEV is a smart bloke so backed his decision but it really is a shocker however way you look at it haha.
(http://www.troll.me/images/you-shall-not-pass/trade-41-you-shall-not-pass.jpg)
It still can be as pot hasnt voted?
I think Ossie had final say no matter what
But I think with Afev's admission it was shower trade/should be negged + Jay's regret at a non-neg + pot who should neg it = enough for a recount imo.
If I knew these guys were on the table I would have done
Sam Mitchell *. Dahlhaus + pick 5 for them which is a much better trad especially if Mitchell gets DPP
Obviously don't have pick 5 anymore but even Mitchell+Judd+Dahlhaus is better
Think many would offer more
Actually didnt realise that Libba was this beastly haha. Like Nails said, he'd probably go top 5 if this draft was re-done.
Scratching my head as to how coaches let this bass but no Nicholls for Jenkins + 8 ???
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2013, 09:09:51 PM
If I knew these guys were on the table I would have done
Sam Mitchell *. Dahlhaus + pick 5 for them which is a much better trad especially if Mitchell gets DPP
Obviously don't have pick 5 anymore but even Mitchell+Judd+Dahlhaus is better
Think many would offer more
Would have offered way more than that ;)
Yeah the market value on both those guys is crazy right now
If I had picks 1, 2 and 3 (I don't) I would've given them all up for Libba. Is the new Pendlebury of SC.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2013, 09:12:29 PM
Yeah the market value on both those guys is crazy right now
Yep exactly, this sums it up. There are worth a shower load.
Re-vote? Kinda sad how only 5 teams rejected it (Beijing were one of the five).
Or HP and Daz could just trade them back...
https://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/trade-41-trade-41-to-get-reversed-or-revoted-on
Meanwhile in Cairo...
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HP and i have decided with ossman's permission ofc
to reverse the trade due to Alex's regret over it
usually it would be too bad kinda thing no taking back but i think with alex having had a rough time lately it may have clouded his judgement a bit there . So we don't mind because Alex is awesome :)
BUT
i would also like to say that i really dislike the amount of whinging by coaches going on here about it getting through for the sole reason that well majority of the ones that are whinging are never happy unless they whinge etc
you all had votes use them that is what it is their for
and before you all whinge yet again about the system failing etc etc if you don't like it GTFO
i think it is really poor to complain
and again i'm not saying this because of the reverse like i said we doing that for reasons that simply does not involve the whinging
i'm simply saying that i think the WXV's is great but lately the whinging about what is wrong this and that and should be done like this or this wouldn't of happened if yada yada yada
that is what separates it and every other one they have there own ways of doing things so whether it be a trade you disagree with or the system or they way another coach votes or runs his team take a deep breath and STFU
Good onya Daz, top bloke!
Hopefully you and Alex can come to an agreement that leaves both teams well off :)
TBH I think that's the first trade I've complained about this off season (may not be)
I just think it's probably the worst trade I've ever seen. Perhaps people don't know enough about players and maybe that's a failing of the system.
If Worlds was drafted again and I had a top 5 pick I'd pick in this order:
Naitanui, Pendlebury and Libba. They'd be my top 3. 50/50 out of Pendles and Libba for 2nd pick tbh. Therefore I felt he wasn't represented sufficiently in this deal.
Hmmmmmm, think PNL could use with Libba Jr. though so sorry to say but will overrule Daz in here and say we'll KEEP the trade since it was PASSED by you guys.
Well now I am confused...
We at Cairo have finished our celebrations.
This is how we now feel.
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While the trade is unfair (to some people), the backlash was unjustified if both teams were happy with. We need to respect the decisions of the coaches in the comp as majority passed it :). Given, we've had New Dehli and Beijing taken advantage of before, pushing them to be bottom teams. Yet PNL who have finished near the bottom two seasons in a row get a good trade going their way, people aren't all for a lower team building their side. So although Daz wanted to do the noble thing, I'll stick to the trade >:D.
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 31, 2013, 10:29:51 PM
While the trade is unfair (to some people), the backlash was unjustified if both teams were happy with. We need to respect the decisions of the coaches in the comp as majority passed it :). Given, we've had New Dehli and Beijing taken advantage of before, pushing them to be bottom teams. Yet PNL who have finished near the bottom two seasons in a row get a good trade going their way, people aren't all for a lower team building their side. So although Daz wanted to do the noble thing, I'll stick to the trade >:D.
both teams were happy with
so .......................... ?
What about that quote from Sid where he said he wanted it rejected?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
What about that quote from Sid where he said he wanted it rejected?
It was said on chat, a lot of stuff is said on chat.... If I took screenshots from one night alone, I'd get blackmail material on a few guys :-X. I'm pretty sure some people agreed to crazy trades on chat as a joke as well, I even did one regarding Martin (as a joke) before on here.
boys we really really need to get over the cap. If anyone wants a later pick for a player who has racked up some points but a spuddy average then shoot myself, ele or scrads a pm
Quote from: Hellopplz on October 31, 2013, 10:37:34 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 31, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
What about that quote from Sid where he said he wanted it rejected?
It was said on chat, a lot of stuff is said on chat.... If I took screenshots from one night alone, I'd get blackmail material on a few guys :-X. I'm pretty sure some people agreed to crazy trades on chat as a joke as well, I even did one regarding Martin (as a joke) before on here.
So because it was said on chat it has validity? ::)
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
boys we really really need to get over the cap. If anyone wants a later pick for a player who has racked up some points but a spuddy average then shoot myself, ele or scrads a pm
Dalziell? ;D
Quote from: Nails on October 31, 2013, 10:55:52 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on October 31, 2013, 10:51:21 PM
boys we really really need to get over the cap. If anyone wants a later pick for a player who has racked up some points but a spuddy average then shoot myself, ele or scrads a pm
Dalziell? ;D
We'd just about take anything lol
Raines?
A PM should be in your inbox Ric. ;)
Damn you VB, damn you for making me pass all trades aha :(
btw i'm shattered was unaware i could have had Greene for Pick 5 :'(
Alright I'm putting it out there - does anyone want/need a Worlds assistant?
I'm super active and have decided that I have the time if anyone needs a hand. Not the world's best SC player yet but I did finish in the top 250 in DT this season so I know my fantasy stuff.
Let me know if you do.
Ok, a lot of this stuff can be avoided through better communication.
Do I agree trade 41 was unbalanced? Yes I do. But I look for reasons to pass this trade, not to reject it. Both teams could have theoretically benefited from the trade, which was the deciding factor in the end. I don't think the trade would have hurt the competition either.
New York --> You need to communicate better both in this trade, and overall really. If you had concerns about the trade, you could have contacted me. Remember, you can vote against your own trade.
The trade stands it went through the process, people voted (10 of 15 coaches not involved in the trade let the trade pass), and I had my say on it as well.
If you want to reverse the trade, than propose the same trade (in reverse) again and let that go through the voting process.
Oz
so nobody is interested in a Judd and Mitchell package?
we want to trade them but are on like 24, 635 points mainly due to injury and suspension ::) makes it really hard and annoying but if someone has some delisted or retired players to make up points we could try :-X
considering the age of our future midfield i think it makes sense to trade them just really annoys me we cant
todays rant over
I think the trade shouldn't be reversed, 10 coaches gave it the ok, and though I may not be part of that 10, the community gave it the OK.
Time will tell to see how this trade pans out.
Lol at the 10 coaches who voted to pass that trade. I could add more, but would probably offend too many people.
Quote from: whatlez on November 01, 2013, 02:18:54 PM
Lol at the 10 coaches who voted to pass that trade. I could add more, but would probably offend too many people.
The thing is, the way the system works is that you don't vote to pass the trade... but to reject/neg it. I assume of the other coaches who let it go, they probably didn't see it as unfairly disadvantaging either side. Not sure though, I can't speak for them.
This ^
I don't like the system, people always look for reasons to neg a trade not to pass it. I try to look for reasons for the trade to pass.
I didn't think Nat 25 was required at all but each to their own. Would rather see more trades get passed because they are tight/iffy than more trades be blocked for this same reason.
My opinion anyway.
What shocked me.the most was HP overruling daz, bit of unrest in France? Come to Korea Daz your welcome here ;)
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 02:27:01 PM
This ^
I don't like the system, people always look for reasons to neg a trade not to pass it. I try to look for reasons for the trade to pass.
I didn't think Nat 25 was required at all but each to their own. Would rather see more trades get passed because they are tight/iffy than more trades be blocked for this same reason.
My opinion anyway.
It's not tight/iffy
It's the worst trade there has been
2 superstar premos of 21 years old
For 2 players 1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
You need 5 first round picks to make up for that difference.
It's really 2 premos for Zero premos once you factor in Westhoff only had 1/3 a good season and it has been his only good one.
Normally 2 premos for Zero premos = zero premos are young, not the other way around!
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 02:27:01 PM
This ^
I don't like the system, people always look for reasons to neg a trade not to pass it. I try to look for reasons for the trade to pass.
I didn't think Nat 25 was required at all but each to their own. Would rather see more trades get passed because they are tight/iffy than more trades be blocked for this same reason.
My opinion anyway.
It's not tight/iffy
It's the worst trade there has been
2 superstar premos of 21 years old
For 2 players 1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
You need 5 first round picks to make up for that difference.
It's really 2 premos for Zero premos once you factor in Westhoff only had 1/3 a good season and it has been his only good one.
Normally 2 premos for Zero premos = zero premos are young, not the other way around!
I said I disagreed with Nat 25 being thrown in. Nat 6 carries a lot of value, that brings them a star midfielder who will EVENTUALLY be able to take over from Ball.
Its not r@pe.
Would have liked to see HP/Daz agree haha but each to their own. Not my fault if the system is flawed.
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
:/ I'd be careful Nails! You'll talk people into rejecting every trade you ever do!
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
Didn't you just do a trade with Seoul for James Kelly? ???
I don't mind the trade passing, I just get why would you trade McKenzie and Libba!!
One of the best defenders as he's young and the team is getting better and Libba who is up there in the Pendles regards.
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 02:41:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 02:27:01 PM
This ^
I don't like the system, people always look for reasons to neg a trade not to pass it. I try to look for reasons for the trade to pass.
I didn't think Nat 25 was required at all but each to their own. Would rather see more trades get passed because they are tight/iffy than more trades be blocked for this same reason.
My opinion anyway.
It's not tight/iffy
It's the worst trade there has been
2 superstar premos of 21 years old
For 2 players 1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
You need 5 first round picks to make up for that difference.
It's really 2 premos for Zero premos once you factor in Westhoff only had 1/3 a good season and it has been his only good one.
Normally 2 premos for Zero premos = zero premos are young, not the other way around!
I said I disagreed with Nat 25 being thrown in. Nat 6 carries a lot of value, that brings them a star midfielder who will EVENTUALLY be able to take over from Ball.
Its not r@pe.
Would have liked to see HP/Daz agree haha but each to their own. Not my fault if the system is flawed.
Mitch Thorp, Richard Tambling, the list goes on...
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
Didn't you just do a trade with Seoul for James Kelly? ???
We're trying to win the next 1-2 grand finals, therefore he's exactly what we're after
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
Didn't you just do a trade with Seoul for James Kelly? ???
Think nails and sids lists are a bit different, wrll were :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2013, 03:19:20 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 02:56:54 PM
Quote from: Nails on November 01, 2013, 02:34:55 PM
1 who will retire after this season and 1 who will retire in a few seasons
Didn't you just do a trade with Seoul for James Kelly? ???
Think nails and sids lists are a bit different, wrll were :P
Good point haha.
I would've traded it all for Libba instead of James Kelly if I could Nige.
I think we're still up there in talks for premiership favourtism, top 4 at least. Point is, our team is beast, but if we had Libba, Libba would be #1 captain option for season 2014.
Ahead of Stevie J/Swan etc.
Calling it now, Libba will drop off slightly next season.
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Calling it now, Libba will drop off slightly next season.
was thinking that myself tbh
Quote from: DazBurg on November 01, 2013, 09:35:53 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 01, 2013, 08:37:53 PM
Calling it now, Libba will drop off slightly next season.
was thinking that myself tbh
No way he is top 5 for value, watch him cop attention and fall back to the pack. I'm thinking 105. 110 is the best case scenario.
I'm delighted to be on board at the Cape Town Cobras as an assistant and I thought I'd jump straight in.
We're looking for defenders. Preferably a youngish guy who will be a starter for us next season, or if not then in two seasons.
We have plenty of forwards/forward depth to offer up.
Send me or My Chumps your offers :D
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
I'm delighted to be on board at the Cape Town Cobras as an assistant and I thought I'd jump straight in.
We're looking for defenders. Preferably a youngish guy who will be a starter for us next season, or if not then in two seasons.
We have plenty of forwards/forward depth to offer up.
Send me or My Chumps your offers :D
Will you be consulting your senior coach if I make you an offer? Please say no. >:(
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
I'm delighted to be on board at the Cape Town Cobras as an assistant and I thought I'd jump straight in.
We're looking for defenders. Preferably a youngish guy who will be a starter for us next season, or if not then in two seasons.
We have plenty of forwards/forward depth to offer up.
Send me or My Chumps your offers :D
Will you be consulting your senior coach if I make you an offer? Please say no. >:(
We'll see. Depends what the offer is. I'll put it this way - I rate the offer then I can be quite persuasive :D
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
I'm delighted to be on board at the Cape Town Cobras as an assistant and I thought I'd jump straight in.
We're looking for defenders. Preferably a youngish guy who will be a starter for us next season, or if not then in two seasons.
We have plenty of forwards/forward depth to offer up.
Send me or My Chumps your offers :D
Will you be consulting your senior coach if I make you an offer? Please say no. >:(
We'll see. Depends what the offer is. I'll put it this way - I rate the offer then I can be quite persuasive :D
Hahaha, Nigel and I's negotiations never get very far :P
Give us Smith you barbie.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2013, 02:31:22 PM
What shocked me.the most was HP overruling daz, bit of unrest in France? Come to Korea Daz your welcome here ;)
honored i'm thought of that highly to just walk straight on over ;)
but i am still standing by the reindeers and HP
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Quote from: My Chumps on November 01, 2013, 11:46:09 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 11:10:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 01, 2013, 11:08:05 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 01, 2013, 10:13:18 PM
I'm delighted to be on board at the Cape Town Cobras as an assistant and I thought I'd jump straight in.
We're looking for defenders. Preferably a youngish guy who will be a starter for us next season, or if not then in two seasons.
We have plenty of forwards/forward depth to offer up.
Send me or My Chumps your offers :D
Will you be consulting your senior coach if I make you an offer? Please say no. >:(
We'll see. Depends what the offer is. I'll put it this way - I rate the offer then I can be quite persuasive :D
Hahaha, Nigel and I's negotiations never get very far :P
Give us Smith you barbie.
I like this new assistant guy you have... seems much more willing to play ball. :P
I had fun messing with you guys. I really hope nobody thought I was really that heartless ;D. Just wanted to keep you guys stirring for a few days, Alex hasn't been on since, so going to get Lamby to pass it for it to go through this period. That's if he accepts it :-X. Talked to Daz, Alex and Ossie straight after it was passed, and the decision is mainly because of Alex and not because of all of you guys complained.
New York trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
PNL trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
what if I want to keep those guys :-X :P
by the power vested in me, the trade is confirmed
Hahaha you flowering would HP. Well done for having the awesomeness to reverse it.
I'm negging this trade, very unfair on PNL :P
Hahahaha, this was the greatest World XV's controversy ever ;)
Good form in the end HP! It seemed so out of character for you to be that heartless.
I'd laugh if that trade got rejected now :P
Inb4 inexplicable negging of the trade. :P
What!? I thought PNL were supposed to be the best traders... NY making up for their last two terrible trades ::)
:P
Quote from: My Chumps on November 03, 2013, 06:40:34 PM
I'd laugh if that trade got rejected now :P
It's a worry as the trade is still unfair :P.
Daz was in on it although he posted before me, so had to kinda play the bad guy (with the overruling)!
#negging
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 03, 2013, 06:22:08 PM
I had fun messing with you guys. I really hope nobody thought I was really that heartless ;D. Just wanted to keep you guys stirring for a few days, Alex hasn't been on since, so going to get Lamby to pass it for it to go through this period. That's if he accepts it :-X. Talked to Daz, Alex and Ossie straight after it was passed, and the decision is mainly because of Alex and not because of all of you guys complained.
New York trade: Justin Westhoff, Luke Ball and Pick 6
PNL trade: Tom Liberatore, Trent McKenzie and Pick 25
Haha I was thinking out of all the people on FF that you would reverse, hence very surprised when you said you weren't
Well played HP
I will be negging it. It's still unfair, even if a reversal.
Quote from: Nails on November 03, 2013, 09:57:55 PM
I will be negging it. It's still unfair, even if a reversal.
Classic Ben.
Or maybe it's a mind trick :o
Quote from: Nails on November 03, 2013, 10:15:54 PM
Or maybe it's a mind trick :o
Wouldn't put it past you. ;)
Pacific give: Josh Jenkins + Jon Simpkin + pick 75
Moscow give: Kyle Hardingham + Jack Hutchins + Seb Tape + pick 37 and 53
Flower, this trade took a long time to get organised but we got there! Pacific get some much needed back depth and the pick upgrade helps for losing the services of Jenk and Simpk who should turn out to be decent players.
Jukes to confirm.
Quote from: Jayman on November 05, 2013, 01:18:45 AM
Pacific give: Josh Jenkins + Jon Simpkin + pick 75
Moscow give: Kyle Hardingham + Jack Hutchins + Seb Tape + pick 37 and 53
Flower, this trade took a long time to get organised but we got there! Pacific get some much needed back depth and the pick upgrade helps for losing the services of Jenk and Simpk who should turn out to be decent players.
Jukes to confirm.
Confirmed
Our best back four are iffy but we have a lot of decent back depth players and gave three of them away here, hopefully won't come back to bite us. Jenkins offers good forward cover and ruck, even though we probably won't ever need it with Clarke and NicNat, while Simpkin had a promising first season at the Hawks. Losing out on the pick part was necessary to get this deal over the line.
Sorry for the lateness guys... work is riding me like a riding thing.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 05, 2013, 12:55:53 PM
Sorry for the lateness guys... work is riding me like a riding thing.
Damn riding things!
All good Oz
Beijing give: Pick #59
Cairo give: John Butcher + Jared Petrenko
Reason: Offloading the unwanted. :P
Togasm shall provide confirmation.
Quote from: NigeyS on November 05, 2013, 10:51:12 PM
Beijing give: Pick #59
Cairo give: John Butcher + Jared Petrenko
Reason: Offloading the unwanted. :P
Togasm shall provide confirmation.
Confirm 8)
Just after more forward depth to top up our list!
Butcher could be good if he learns not the butcher the ball too much :P.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 01:36:34 AM
Butcher could be good if he learns not the butcher the ball too much :P.
Nice pun.
Except for the fact that he doesn't get enough of it to butcher it :P
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 01:58:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 01:36:34 AM
Butcher could be good if he learns not the butcher the ball too much :P.
Nice pun.
Except for the fact that he doesn't get enough of it to butcher it :P
I was hoping to add him at PNL to join our mountain of tall forwards :(. 12/14 listed forwards for us are over 190cm :o.
When does trading end? Cheers :)
Butcher is probly worth than pick 59 alone...
nice trade Toga :)
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 01:58:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 01:36:34 AM
Butcher could be good if he learns not the butcher the ball too much :P.
Nice pun.
Except for the fact that he doesn't get enough of it to butcher it :P
Yea was gonna say, he usually does alright with the 4 kicks he gets a game. :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2013, 08:50:02 AM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 01:58:12 AM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 06, 2013, 01:36:34 AM
Butcher could be good if he learns not the butcher the ball too much :P.
Nice pun.
Except for the fact that he doesn't get enough of it to butcher it :P
Yea was gonna say, he usually does alright with the 4 kicks he gets a game. :P
I chose an AFL debutant rookie over John Butcher in one of my finals lol
And it was the better choice!
If I didn't throw in Petrenko, the deal would favour Beijing too heavily. :P
Been a while since my last trade, but the drought breaks now!
Berlin trade: Hayden Ballantyne + Maverick Weller
Seoul trade: Jarryn Geary
Well, tbh, Ballantyne was annoying the hell out of me in his 2 months at the club, saying "JB did that, and JB used to, and JB used to, and Seoul had these restaurants...
So, I cracked the showers and sent him back home.
On a serious note, I needed another defender, and Jarryn is at a nice age of 25, so there is scope for improvement and he is only half way through his career. Ballantyne is at the other end of the ground, averaging slightly less and is slightly older, so Weller, who I think could go well at the Saints provided they pick him up, makes up for that :)
C'mon Balla, stay put mate. :P
Jaz Geary now off to Berlin. :o
#OldCairenes
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
Been a while since my last trade, but the drought breaks now!
Berlin trade: Hayden Ballantyne + Maverick Weller
Seoul trade: Jarryn Geary
Well, tbh, Ballantyne was annoying the hell out of me in his 2 months at the club, saying "JB did that, and JB used to, and JB used to, and Seoul had these restaurants...
So, I cracked the showers and sent him back home.
On a serious note, I needed another defender, and Jarryn is at a nice age of 25, so there is scope for improvement and he is only half way through his career. Ballantyne is at the other end of the ground, averaging slightly less and is slightly older, so Weller, who I think could go well at the Saints provided they pick him up, makes up for that :)
Confirmed! Balla can't stay away
Seriously, that's the second time Seoul have traded away Ballantyne only to trade him back in :/
Definitely a love-hate relationship going on there haha
Weller to out average Geary.
^ Needs a team first haha
In the VFL ;)
Weller training with Saints so potential to join Geary there :o.
When it rains, it pours...Purple 77 involved in another trade today.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 59
Deal suites both parties needs and is pretty fair.
From our perspective (Cape Town) we need more defenders and had excess forwards so this deal suits us nicely. Players are fairly similar and we don't think we will have much use for that pick.
Purple 77 to confirm.
Quote from: Toga on November 05, 2013, 11:20:12 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 05, 2013, 10:51:12 PM
Beijing give: Pick #59
Cairo give: John Butcher + Jared Petrenko
Reason: Offloading the unwanted. :P
Togasm shall provide confirmation.
Confirm 8)
Just after more forward depth to top up our list!
I'm also confirming just to remind people Toga and I are co-coaches :P
He may be the brains, but I'm the #1 pep-talker in the league 8)
edit: That was a joke, I'm the king of Fantasy Footy :P
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
When it rains, it pours...Purple 77 involved in another trade today.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 59
Deal suites both parties needs and is pretty fair.
From our perspective (Cape Town) we need more defenders and had excess forwards so this deal suits us nicely. Players are fairly similar and we don't think we will have much use for that pick.
Purple 77 to confirm.
Confirmed.
Another on-trade in Reid lol, would have been a handy def/for, but when two forwards that are in their respective best 22 come up, well, I complied. Everitt may improve nicely for Carlton, but he was necessary to get the trade done.
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
When it rains, it pours...Purple 77 involved in another trade today.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 59
Deal suites both parties needs and is pretty fair.
From our perspective (Cape Town) we need more defenders and had excess forwards so this deal suits us nicely. Players are fairly similar and we don't think we will have much use for that pick.
Purple 77 to confirm.
Confirmed.
Another on-trade in Reid lol, would have been a handy def/for, but when two forwards that are in their respective best 22 come up, well, I complied. Everitt may improve nicely for Carlton, but he was necessary to get the trade done.
I don't know if I have to confirm this, but I will :P
I don't think Jetta or Garlett would be starting for us due to our amazing forward line, but Reid definitely will be due to our average backline. Everitt was extras, although we do believe he could improve at Carlton and should have solid JS.
Enormous trade here!
We Give: R22
for
CF Gives: Raines + N93
Reason: Get us closer to the minimum points cap please.
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Enormous trade here!
We Give: R22
for
CF Gives: Raines + N93
Reason: Get us closer to the minimum points cap please.
Confirmed. Just being the friendly Puma king and helping out a fellow big cat :)
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Enormous trade here!
We Give: R22
for
CF Gives: Raines + N93
Reason: Get us closer to the minimum points cap please.
But N93 > R22? :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2013, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Enormous trade here!
We Give: R22
for
CF Gives: Raines + N93
Reason: Get us closer to the minimum points cap please.
But N93 > R22? :P
Considering CF wasn't ever using N93 I don't think it matters to him :P
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 06, 2013, 10:08:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 06, 2013, 10:04:02 PM
Enormous trade here!
We Give: R22
for
CF Gives: Raines + N93
Reason: Get us closer to the minimum points cap please.
But N93 > R22? :P
Considering CF wasn't ever using N93 I don't think it matters to him :P
Yeah! I'm reckless :P
Edit: Also I would disagree. I see rookie 22 better than nat 93 :)
Out of interest is anyone willing to give up a high (first round) draft pick ?
And/or are there any clubs who want to pick up more draft picks? I'd be interest to hear from them if there are.
Also is the rookie draft the same order as the National draft? If so does it also include the priority picks?
I have pick 15 if you want to try and make an offer, you're more than welcome :)
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
When it rains, it pours...Purple 77 involved in another trade today.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 59
Deal suites both parties needs and is pretty fair.
From our perspective (Cape Town) we need more defenders and had excess forwards so this deal suits us nicely. Players are fairly similar and we don't think we will have much use for that pick.
Purple 77 to confirm.
Confirmed.
Another on-trade in Reid lol, would have been a handy def/for, but when two forwards that are in their respective best 22 come up, well, I complied. Everitt may improve nicely for Carlton, but he was necessary to get the trade done.
Hey before this trade goes to a vote I just noticed we do not have Pick 59. I should probably have checked when you offered it to us Purple 77 but it's got to be either Pick 51 or Pick 69.
Hopefully this should be able to be fixed asap.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 07, 2013, 09:06:58 PM
Also is the rookie draft the same order as the National draft? If so does it also include the priority picks?
Same order, but no priority picks
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Also left overs from last year and players picked up in the pre-season draft I believe, although I could be wrong.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Well that's where you're wrong, and why you were wrong saying N93 was better than R22. In the rookie draft yes there are the leftovers from the international draft, but then you can also select from the preseason and rookie drafts, which you can't do in the international ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 07, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Well that's where you're wrong, and why you were wrong saying N93 was better than R22. In the rookie draft yes there are the leftovers from the international draft, but then you can also select from the preseason and rookie drafts, which you can't do in the international ;)
Oh i thought they chucked them all Rookie/ND/Preseason into the International draft? This was the stage i was only just starting to take over last season so not 100% on how it works.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 07, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Well that's where you're wrong, and why you were wrong saying N93 was better than R22. In the rookie draft yes there are the leftovers from the international draft, but then you can also select from the preseason and rookie drafts, which you can't do in the international ;)
Oh i thought they chucked them all Rookie/ND/Preseason into the International draft? This was the stage i was only just starting to take over last season so not 100% on how it works.
Nup, the international draft is just for players taken in the national draft and any left over players :)
Think iv seen where i went wrong.
There is the international draft and a pre season draft and a rookie draft?
Yep 3 different drafts. International draft is what I stated above. PSD can select players from anywhere, but you only get a pick here if you still need to complete your senior list. Rookie draft is again players from anywhere, and these players go on to your rookie list :)
Hope that explains it all :)
Trading ends on Monday 11th or 18th?
And what happens if Pot doesn't vote... Pretty awkward time to find a new manager.
Quote from: Master Q on November 07, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
Trading ends on Monday 11th or 18th?
And what happens if Pot doesn't vote... Pretty awkward time to find a new manager.
Hes been online today ;)
Quote from: Master Q on November 07, 2013, 10:59:03 PM
Trading ends on Monday 11th or 18th?
And what happens if Pot doesn't vote... Pretty awkward time to find a new manager.
From the way ossie worded it, it sounds like trading ends on Sunday.
Yeah, shouldve been clearer sorry. 11:59pm aedst Sunday 17th :P that is when trading finishes
Thanks os :)
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 07, 2013, 09:27:31 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 06, 2013, 06:34:59 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 06, 2013, 06:17:46 PM
When it rains, it pours...Purple 77 involved in another trade today.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 59
Deal suites both parties needs and is pretty fair.
From our perspective (Cape Town) we need more defenders and had excess forwards so this deal suits us nicely. Players are fairly similar and we don't think we will have much use for that pick.
Purple 77 to confirm.
Confirmed.
Another on-trade in Reid lol, would have been a handy def/for, but when two forwards that are in their respective best 22 come up, well, I complied. Everitt may improve nicely for Carlton, but he was necessary to get the trade done.
Hey before this trade goes to a vote I just noticed we do not have Pick 59. I should probably have checked when you offered it to us Purple 77 but it's got to be either Pick 51 or Pick 69.
Hopefully this should be able to be fixed asap.
Ok so this one has been updated. Was a typo on my end during the negotiations - sorry.
Berlin gives: Ben Reid + Andrejs Everitt
Cape Town gives: Lewis Jetta, Jeff Garlett + Pick 69
Purple 77 to re-confirm.
Confirmed! 8)
Right! I'm not gonna re-send the votes on that one, so if anyone wants to change there vote on THAT trade alone, PM me.
Any update guys?
I'm keen to know if my trades get through so I can sort out this weeks trades based on that... :D it'd be good to know :P
Quote from: elephants on November 11, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
I'm keen to know if my trades get through so I can sort out this weeks trades based on that... :D it'd be good to know :P
PM the salary you're willing to pay me, and if it's higher than what my current boss pays me, it will be done!
i'd get the cheque upfront ossie :P
Quote from: ossie85 on November 11, 2013, 01:45:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 11, 2013, 12:44:11 PM
I'm keen to know if my trades get through so I can sort out this weeks trades based on that... :D it'd be good to know :P
PM the salary you're willing to pay me, and if it's higher than what my current boss pays me, it will be done!
Haha its fine dude, just curious as to where we are at.
Master Q/Toga and Ringo (I did send to his assistants) only ones not to vote so far...
No trades currently have more than 4 votes, and only 3 I could theoretically reject.
Trade 46 controversial, but less people voted against it this time then before. I can't reject that trade without being hypocritical. So it passes.
Trade 45 and Trade 49 only other trades to receive votes against. Don't have real problem with either...
so...
ALL PASS I haven't done the salary cap checking yet, so it's depending on that a bit.
Oz
And all caps updated!
Well done to New Delhi now well above the minimum
Quote from: ossie85 on November 12, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
Well done to New Delhi now well above the minimum
Finally...thank flower for that ;D
Damn didn't realise my points were so low! :o
Quote from: ossie85 on November 12, 2013, 08:59:33 AM
Well done to New Delhi now well above the minimum
Yes! ;D Props to everyone that helped us get there, you know who you are 8)
Sorry I didn't vote, I could have sworn I sent them... :o :(
Really sorry guys :-\
Beijing must be getting close-ish to the minimum as well now?
Quote from: Toga on November 12, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
Beijing must be getting close-ish to the minimum as well now?
Yep! Just over 300 points away!
Woohoo! ;D
Let's see how much our boys improve next year 8)
Sorry Oss send me the next ones and I will definitely vote this time. Will be home next Tuesday as well.
Quote from: Ringo on November 12, 2013, 05:46:58 PM
Sorry Oss send me the next ones and I will definitely vote this time. Will be home next Tuesday as well.
Since he sent out the message on the 7th, you still actually have time to vote this round. Just the votes won't change the outcomes, which is why os already announced them :)
Everyone loves a threesome. So together with Toronto and Moscow, we have on have one here for your viewing pleasure.
Moscow:
In: Nick Vlastuin + 34
Out: Leigh Adams, 14 + 31
Toronto:
In: Leigh Adams, 57
Out: 11, 32
New Delhi:
In: 11, 14, 31, 32
Out: Nick Vlastuin, 34, 57
All picks mentioned are International Draft picks.
Jukes and RB to confirm 8)
Confirmed
One of the more attractive threesomes floating around at the moment.....
Nah reasoning is I haven't researched the draft at all so unaware who to target with my first two picks so was looking to offload them, and with the inclusion of Hendersons d/f dpp I can afford to swing him back and pick up another forward in Patch :)
Confirmed
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
Anyone interested in Scotty Gumbleton PM ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
*insert lame, overused 'I'll give you a bandaid for the lot' joke* ::) :P
Just looking for small deals here boys to help out our future. A few of these players will be prime for teams gunning for the premiership.
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
*insert lame, overused 'I'll give you a bandaid for the lot' joke* ::) :P
Just looking for small deals here boys to help out our future. A few of these players will be prime for teams gunning for the premiership.
Rutten and Cassisi being sought after? Not so sure about that. :P
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
*insert lame, overused 'I'll give you a bandaid for the lot' joke* ::) :P
Just looking for small deals here boys to help out our future. A few of these players will be prime for teams gunning for the premiership.
The first 3 have nominated Dublin as there desired destination.
Quote from: NigeyS on November 13, 2013, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
*insert lame, overused 'I'll give you a bandaid for the lot' joke* ::) :P
Just looking for small deals here boys to help out our future. A few of these players will be prime for teams gunning for the premiership.
Rutten and Cassisi being sought after? Not so sure about that. :P
Come on Nige, reeeeeead.
Quote from: Holzman on November 13, 2013, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 05:46:10 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
*insert lame, overused 'I'll give you a bandaid for the lot' joke* ::) :P
Just looking for small deals here boys to help out our future. A few of these players will be prime for teams gunning for the premiership.
The first 3 have nominated Dublin as there desired destination.
You know where my (in)box is ;)
Just in talks with rocky if he wants to play in the mids or forward.
We rate him soo highly we have let him choose. If he wants to play mid pods and gia will fill the void. If not Monty will cover the midfield.
Blockbuster trade between PNL and Berlin here would have everybody in shock!
Berlin trade: PSD Pick 15 + Pick 82
PNL trade: Jordan Lockyer
Ok, so not really :P. Was looking for a late pick to upgrade a rookie and a PSD pick we may/may not use. Got too many lowly backs so don't mind moving Lockyer.
I still don't fully understand the drafts and which players are allocated to which draft ???
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 06:52:40 PM
I still don't fully understand the drafts and which players are allocated to which draft ???
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 07, 2013, 10:01:01 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 07, 2013, 09:57:47 PM
And rookie is only leftovers from International Draft i believe? Its not like other XV where they sepearate ND and Rookie drafts.
Well that's where you're wrong, and why you were wrong saying N93 was better than R22. In the rookie draft yes there are the leftovers from the international draft, but then you can also select from the preseason and rookie drafts, which you can't do in the international ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 07, 2013, 10:52:48 PM
Yep 3 different drafts. International draft is what I stated above. PSD can select players from anywhere, but you only get a pick here if you still need to complete your senior list. Rookie draft is again players from anywhere, and these players go on to your rookie list :)
Hope that explains it all :)
Those two quotes should explain it.
So can we trade picks from all three drafts?
International and Rookie yes.
Preseason no.
That's how I interpret it?
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
International and Rookie yes.
Preseason no.
That's how I interpret it?
Bunweiser just traded PSD Pick 15. ;)
Quote from: elephants on November 13, 2013, 07:06:37 PM
International and Rookie yes.
Preseason no.
That's how I interpret it?
Pretty much El ;).
Yeah, it's not as good as Nat Picks and stuff.
You can trade picks in all drafts! Only first two rounds for preseason and four for rookies...
Draft details at start of thread
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 13, 2013, 06:50:28 PM
Blockbuster trade between PNL and Berlin here would have everybody in shock!
Berlin trade: PSD Pick 15 + Pick 82
PNL trade: Jordan Lockyer
Ok, so not really :P. Was looking for a late pick to upgrade a rookie and a PSD pick we may/may not use. Got too many lowly backs so don't mind moving Lockyer.
Confirmed! I was never going to use PSD 15, and I thought I'd take a punt on Lockyer, I saw Longmire say he had long-term plans for him, so I thought I'd take a gamble
Entering final 3 days of trade period....
Quote from: Ricochet on November 13, 2013, 05:06:27 PM
Now that we're over the cap we're chucking up these guys for the best deal/pick/picks offered. PM myself, Ele or Scrads
Montagna
Podsiadly
Giansiracusa
Cassisi
Rutten
We're also adding young gun defender Mullett to the table for a quality young mid. We've had a little bit of interest but nothing has really stood out, so we're opening it up in the final days.
Cape Town give: Jason Johanissen + 51
Pacific give: pick 21
Having picks 3, 8 and 15 in the draft already, we felt that pick 21 was expendable. JJ will be a handy player down back for us.
MC/Memphis to confirm
Confirmed.
We're concerned about JJ's job security with the Bulldogs inclusion of Darley so saw pick 21 as more valuable. We weren't going to use 51 at all, and having two picks in the top 25 was appealing.
Quote from: Jayman on November 16, 2013, 12:06:13 AM
Cape Town give: Jason Johanissen + 51
Pacific give: pick 21
Having picks 3, 8 and 15 in the draft already, we felt that pick 21 was expendable. JJ will be a handy player down back for us.
MC/Memphis to confirm
You didn't think that when we were discussing trades?
Quote from: Jayman on November 16, 2013, 12:06:13 AM
Cape Town give: Jason Johanissen + 51
Pacific give: pick 21
Having picks 3, 8 and 15 in the draft already, we felt that pick 21 was expendable. JJ will be a handy player down back for us.
MC/Memphis to confirm
JJ finally made his way to Pacific. :o
CF has just informed that Maca's team is over the cap. Since I don't think he'll be on over the next few days I'm willing to trade on his behalf.
B.Lake, M.Baguley, D.Merrett, M.Firrito, S.Thompson (Adel), B.Moloney, N.Hrovat, B.Jack, C.Yarran
J.Waite, A.Goodes, T.Membrey, D.Addison, M.Blicavs, A.Sandilands, D.Currie could all be moved on for the right price.
Also for any coaches who have sent me offers previously, could you please re-send them and I'll get back to you.
You can also get under the cap through retirements and delistings :)
Where the flower is maca?
Quote from: ossie85 on November 16, 2013, 04:52:51 PM
You can also get under the cap through retirements and delistings :)
Thanks, CF told me this as well. I could still do some trading, if you're interested in anyone from Maca's team, chuck me a PM.
Trade
Wellington give: pick 1, Liam Mcbean, Nathan Wright, 1st round rookie draft pick
for
Seoul give: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, pick 64, 1st Round rookie draft pick
Reason: we really needed another premium player and someone who could provide another option for captain if Murphy goes down, had to give up a few players with good potential in Mcbean and Wright but i feel its needed for immediate improvement in the club which deledio should bring and xavier ellis could come alive at west coast.
Boom! Huge trade!
Quote from: pothead on November 16, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Trade
Wellington give: pick 1, Liam Mcbean, Nathan Wright, 1st round rookie draft pick
for
Seoul give: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, pick 64, 1st Round rookie draft pick
Reason: we really needed another premium player and someone who could provide another option for captain if Murphy goes down, had to give up a few players with good potential in Mcbean and Wright but i feel its needed for immediate improvement in the club which deledio should bring and xavier ellis could come alive at west coast.
Confirmed, except its meant to be Pre season draft not rookie ;)
What the... :o
Interesting trade
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 16, 2013, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: pothead on November 16, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Trade
Wellington give: pick 1, Liam Mcbean, Nathan Wright, 1st round rookie draft pick
for
Seoul give: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, pick 64, 1st Round rookie draft pick
Reason: we really needed another premium player and someone who could provide another option for captain if Murphy goes down, had to give up a few players with good potential in Mcbean and Wright but i feel its needed for immediate improvement in the club which deledio should bring and xavier ellis could come alive at west coast.
Preseason for both?
Confirmed, except its meant to be Pre season draft not rookie ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on November 16, 2013, 07:34:21 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 16, 2013, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: pothead on November 16, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Trade
Wellington give: pick 1, Liam Mcbean, Nathan Wright, 1st round rookie draft pick
for
Seoul give: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, pick 64, 1st Round rookie draft pick
Reason: we really needed another premium player and someone who could provide another option for captain if Murphy goes down, had to give up a few players with good potential in Mcbean and Wright but i feel its needed for immediate improvement in the club which deledio should bring and xavier ellis could come alive at west coast.
Preseason for both?
Confirmed, except its meant to be Pre season draft not rookie ;)
yeah meant to be pre season not rookie my bad
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
:-X :-X :-X
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
OOOoOOOOOOO
too bad BP doesn't read these threads as it's his cue..lol
Quote from: JROO8 on November 16, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
:-X :-X :-X
I'm on to you :P
But if you trade me your good players I won't tell ;)
Mitchell+Judd are on the table but has to be a pretty good offer to convince Boomz lol after a good young mid or premo ruck, rookie 5 on the table also
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Mitchell+Judd are on the table but has to be a pretty good offer to convince Boomz lol after a good young mid or premo ruck, rookie 5 on the table also
Just so you don't get stuck making a trade... If you trade out Judd you need to be receiving at least 932 in return, and for Mitchell it's 1,077 points :)
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah maybe. JROO should be promoted to Co-Coach by the rules though.
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Mitchell+Judd are on the table but has to be a pretty good offer to convince Boomz lol after a good young mid or premo ruck, rookie 5 on the table also
Just so you don't get stuck making a trade... If you trade out Judd you need to be receiving at least 932 in return, and for Mitchell it's 1,077 points :)
don't rub it in :'(
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Mitchell+Judd are on the table but has to be a pretty good offer to convince Boomz lol after a good young mid or premo ruck, rookie 5 on the table also
Just so you don't get stuck making a trade... If you trade out Judd you need to be receiving at least 932 in return, and for Mitchell it's 1,077 points :)
don't rub it in :'(
so that's all he said :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:39:14 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:35:41 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 16, 2013, 09:32:25 PM
Mitchell+Judd are on the table but has to be a pretty good offer to convince Boomz lol after a good young mid or premo ruck, rookie 5 on the table also
Just so you don't get stuck making a trade... If you trade out Judd you need to be receiving at least 932 in return, and for Mitchell it's 1,077 points :)
don't rub it in :'(
Wasn't trying to rub it in, was just trying to make sure you did a trade that was fine. I remember you did a trade that got rejected since you went under the cap, so don't want you to do that now since the window closes tomorrow...
i know mate was just joking ;D i been complaining about the points for a while now cause it makes it hard for us to trade them :P
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
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Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah maybe. JROO should be promoted to Co-Coach by the rules though.
Maybe we should just sack him :o Yesterday was the last day of school for year 12s anyway, surely he cod make an appearance between then and schoolies :o
Just checking, this period closes 12pm Australian Stupid Time Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time?
Quote from: elephants on November 16, 2013, 10:01:11 PM
Just checking, this period closes 12pm Australian Stupid Time Australian Eastern Daylight Saving Time?
Nup. Closes 11.59pm Eastern Time ;)
it closes tonight?
Quote from: JROO8 on November 16, 2013, 09:22:33 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
:-X :-X :-X
Maybe JROO is Maca? :o :o :o.
I wish we had another week :'(
Quote from: Nails on November 16, 2013, 10:10:05 PM
I wish we had another week :'(
why pension week next week?
LOL sorry nails couldn't resist
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 16, 2013, 10:03:58 PM
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Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 09:19:32 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah that's what I thought. Should be fine since he has an assistant acting in his place.
Although it's funny, because JROO was announced as assistant on the 12th. But maca didn't actually say anything himself (as far as I remember), just jroo saying he was. Maybe jroo killed maca and has taken over the team?... :P
:-X :-X :-X
Maybe JROO is Maca? :o :o :o.
Possibly :o 8)
Quote from: nrich102 on November 16, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:38:39 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 16, 2013, 09:10:27 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 16, 2013, 09:02:06 PM
Maca was last online: Last Active: October 12, 2013, 02:31:19 PM
Wouldn't that mean he has had his 2 weeks and is to be put up for review?
but JROO assistant has been active in his absence therefore it is still ok isn't it?
Yeah maybe. JROO should be promoted to Co-Coach by the rules though.
Maybe we should just sack him :o Yesterday was the last day of school for year 12s
No it wasn't, I've still got a f*cking exam on Tuesday >:(
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 16, 2013, 07:15:38 PM
Quote from: pothead on November 16, 2013, 06:51:23 PM
Trade
Wellington give: pick 1, Liam Mcbean, Nathan Wright, 1st round rookie draft pick
for
Seoul give: Brett Deledio, Xavier Ellis, pick 64, 1st Round rookie draft pick
Reason: we really needed another premium player and someone who could provide another option for captain if Murphy goes down, had to give up a few players with good potential in Mcbean and Wright but i feel its needed for immediate improvement in the club which deledio should bring and xavier ellis could come alive at west coast.
Confirmed, except its meant to be Pre season draft not rookie ;)
How long did it take Pot to reply to your PMs?
Quote from: Master Q on November 16, 2013, 11:44:18 PM
How long did it take Pot to reply to your PMs?
I sent him a trade offer back on October 24, then a different trade offer on October 27. Haven't hearf back about either! :o
Quote from: nrich102 on November 16, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Maybe we should just sack him :o Yesterday was the last day of school for year 12s anyway, surely he cod make an appearance between then and schoolies :o
Nrich wants to be coach of Mexico City next season :P
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2013, 03:09:32 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on November 16, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
Maybe we should just sack him :o Yesterday was the last day of school for year 12s anyway, surely he cod make an appearance between then and schoolies :o
Nrich wants to be coach of Mexico City next season :P
You guessed it :P lol
Bit over 16 hours to go....
final day of trades guys come on lets do this
i'm open and listening to deals
(knows no one going to pm me as everyone hates dealing with me :P )
I'm around all day to talk trades.
We're pretty happy with our list. If anyone is offering up another high pick we could be interested.
DazBurg - which team are you involved with?
Also out of interest what happens if a trade done in the last week/on deadline day is rejected by votes?
Do the parties involved get a chance to re-work it or is that the end of the story/game over?
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 12:28:50 PM
I'm around all day to talk trades.
We're pretty happy with our list. If anyone is offering up another high pick we could be interested.
DazBurg - which team are you involved with?
PNL Reindeers mate
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,72900.0.html
but that team list is wrong since we reversed the trade with New york
take out Mckenzie and libba jr pick 25
put back in westhoff and luke ball and pick 6
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 12:31:05 PM
Also out of interest what happens if a trade done in the last week/on deadline day is rejected by votes?
Do the parties involved get a chance to re-work it or is that the end of the story/game over?
Yep, they get one more chance to work it out
Quote from: ossie85 on November 17, 2013, 12:49:54 PM
Quote from: Memphistopheles on November 17, 2013, 12:31:05 PM
Also out of interest what happens if a trade done in the last week/on deadline day is rejected by votes?
Do the parties involved get a chance to re-work it or is that the end of the story/game over?
Yep, they get one more chance to work it out
really?
i wasn't even aware of that awesome
We're after defenders/forwards/midfielders
Anyone that plays a decent amount of games, doesn't have to have the best average.
PM myself/vinny
Quote from: Nails on November 17, 2013, 02:38:39 PM
We're after defenders/forwards/midfielders
Anyone that plays a decent amount of games, doesn't have to have the best average.
PM myself/vinny
and in return you offer????
lol
sorry nails
Anyone want Lecras? Send me offers
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 16, 2013, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 16, 2013, 11:44:18 PM
How long did it take Pot to reply to your PMs?
I sent him a trade offer back on October 24, then a different trade offer on October 27. Haven't hearf back about either! :o
Our negotations started on the 24th :P We had about 1 msgs back and forth most days until it was finalised, quite a quote train :)
Less than 6 hours to go...
I wanna make a trade but don't know who I'd give or let go of in the process tbh... :P
still fielding offers in talks but slow moving
btw i usually have tomorrow off but will be working tomorrow so will not be on right tot he end :P
Guys trade with us, we want a defender or a forward mainly but also interested in a midfielder. :)
PM Nails or myself!
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:25:00 PM
Guys trade with us, we want a defender or a forward mainly but also interested in a midfielder. :)
PM Nails or myself!
But what are you willing to give up in return?
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Cross, Redden and Schulz could be pretty handy tbh. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on November 17, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Cross, Redden and Schulz could be pretty handy tbh. :P
i'm just bored and very anxious to start the drafts :-X ::) ???
Haha let me know if you are interested Nige. :)
KB, our first team showers on yours ;) ;D
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 17, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Cross, Redden and Schulz could be pretty handy tbh. :P
i'm just bored and very anxious to start the drafts :-X ::) ???
yeah especially boomzie won't do any deals :P
Quote from: DazBurg on November 17, 2013, 07:18:33 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 17, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Cross, Redden and Schulz could be pretty handy tbh. :P
i'm just bored and very anxious to start the drafts :-X ::) ???
yeah especially boomzie won't do any deals :P
i made up for that in BXV :-X
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on November 17, 2013, 07:11:35 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on November 17, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 06:48:41 PM
Jarryd Lyons, Daniel Cross, Jarrad Redden, Jay Schulz, Jesse O'Brein and maybe one of our midfielders bar Dane Swan and Michael Barlow.
Spudsville ;D
Cross, Redden and Schulz could be pretty handy tbh. :P
i'm just bored and very anxious to start the drafts :-X ::) ???
im pumped for the draft.
my first pick is 78, i think i can lock in a gun.
Flower, we are stuffed. Holz has all the best picks.
Quote from: vinny on November 17, 2013, 07:25:31 PM
Flower, we are stuffed. Holz has all the best picks.
my first picks have turned out well.
2012: Omeara
2013: Hogan
2014: Superstar?
For sure. Boyd should slip a bit. Think you can snatch him with 79.
Jpod, Joey and Gia.
Offers pls, go go go!
Quote from: elephants on November 17, 2013, 08:01:52 PM
Jpod, Joey and Gia.
Offers pls, go go go!
pick 45 for joey :P...lol
just kidding
Last minute trade between the two grand finalists...
Sao Paulo trade: Picks 18 and 81
Mexico City trades: Pick 17
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 17, 2013, 11:54:41 PM
Last minute trade between the two grand finalists...
Sao Paulo trade: Picks 18 and 81
Mexico City trades: Pick 17
Confirm. We need the extra pick as we'll have to delist a few to get under the cap.
We should still get the same player at 18 anyway, thanks CF.
No worries jroo :)
Ah yes my reasoning was I don't need pick 81, so might as well get a slight upgrade in pick...
And the trade window is closed!
iirc based on last year Ossie accepted trades until he logged on in the morning.
Quote from: Nails on November 18, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
iirc based on last year Ossie accepted trades until he logged on in the morning.
I don't remember that. Anyway this year he specifically stated a time that it ends...
Quote from: Nails on November 18, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
iirc based on last year Ossie accepted trades until he logged on in the morning.
This would be ridiculously handy for me as I just got home then but rules are rules! If he made it specific the window closes at 11:59pm then that's whats gotta happen.
Quote from: Nails on November 18, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
iirc based on last year Ossie accepted trades until he logged on in the morning.
I did that during the weekly voting periods, not the final one though
Waiting on 6 teams (Hellopplz, Holzman, My Chumps, Nails, pyronerd, Ringo) unless I missed them :/
Oz
Bummmmmp. Carn lads, ya'll are active!
Still four coaches yet to vote, but trade 52 and 53 are the only trades with votes, and they both have 3 votes.
Meaning even if all four coaches vote against it, they would go to 7 votes - leaving me with the final say....
So..... in short, all trades Pass!
The three-way trade I actually like, I think all 3 teams win (yes, I think New Delhi the biggest winner) and helps the competition. So I have no issue with that one.
The #1 for Deledio trade is another I can also get behind - Seoul have been trading for youth and this fits that profile, while Wellington gets a solid player (and Ellis who I think can still be a decent scorer). So pass that also....
Well done all!
Hooray I sneak up the draft ever slightly! :P
Lovely 8)
So we wait a bit for the drafts and final list lodgements... makes it much neater when we do final drafts!
But, for the record (and see team lists on the front page), but this is how many senior spots each team has.
Each team can only have 41 senior players and 4 rookies before the drafts. If you have 38 seniors and 2 rookies, you get 3 international draft picks, and 2 rookie picks....
Beijing Thunder: 46 seniors, 4 rookies
Berlin Brewers: 39, 3
Buenos Aires Armadillos: 41, 4
Cairo Sands: 34, 3
Cape Town Cobras: 44, 3
Dublin Destroyers: 38, 3
London Royals: 34, 4
Mexico City Suns: 32, 3
Moscow Spetsnaz: 34, 6
New Delhi Tigers: 44, 5
New York Revolution: 40, 5
Pacific Islanders: 45, 2
PNL Reindeers: 40, 2
Sao Paulo Pumas: 39, 4
Seoul Magpies: 41, 4
Tokyo Samurai: 38, 3
Toronto Wolves: 40, 4
Wellington Warriors: 37, 1
Rookies
Cornelius Aaron Beijing Thunder
Speight Benjamin Beijing Thunder
Naismith Sam Beijing Thunder
Hunter Hal Beijing Thunder
Brown Nathan Berlin Brewers
Shenton Cameron Berlin Brewers
Minchington Darren Berlin Brewers
Osborn Jack Buenos Aires Armadillos
Redfern Joseph Buenos Aires Armadillos
Schulz Sam Buenos Aires Armadillos
Tunbridge Simon Buenos Aires Armadillos
Marsh Harrison Cairo Sands
Hartigan Kyle Cairo Sands
Bourke Jordan Cairo Sands
Austin Mark Cape Town Cobras
Ah Chee Brendon Cape Town Cobras
Pierce Lewis Cape Town Cobras
Taberner Matthew Dublin Destroyers
Warren Max Dublin Destroyers
Orval Dylan Dublin Destroyers
Rampe Dane London Royals
Dalgleish Lachlan London Royals
Gregory Sean London Royals
Brand Kaiden London Royals
Curren Tom Mexico City Suns
Jack Brandon Mexico City Suns
Blicavs Mark Mexico City Suns
Wilson Blayne Moscow Spetsnaz
Hogan Jesse Moscow Spetsnaz
Burbury George Moscow Spetsnaz
Wallace Eric Moscow Spetsnaz
Joyce Nicholas Moscow Spetsnaz
Menegola Sam Moscow Spetsnaz
McCarthy Lincoln New Delhi Tigers
Kelly Jordan New Delhi Tigers
Helbig Bradley New Delhi Tigers
Ferguson Jackson New Delhi Tigers
Williams Zachary New Delhi Tigers
Colledge Brant New York Revolution
Richmond Ben New York Revolution
Williams Cadeyn New York Revolution
Klaosen Tim New York Revolution
Nicholls Tom New York Revolution
Oxley Adam Pacific Islanders
Frost Jack Pacific Islanders
McKenzie Brad PNL Reindeers
Richards Xavier PNL Reindeers
Riley Aiden Sao Paulo Pumas
Yagmoor Peter Sao Paulo Pumas
Newton Ben Sao Paulo Pumas
Schloithe Haiden Sao Paulo Pumas
Lever Jay Seoul Magpies
Hitchcock Cameron Seoul Magpies
Wanganeen Derick Seoul Magpies
Grimley Sam Seoul Magpies
Clisby Mitchell Tokyo Samurai
Gleeson Martin Tokyo Samurai
Robinson Daniel Tokyo Samurai
Curran Tom Toronto Wolves
Salter Nick Toronto Wolves
Jonas Thomas Toronto Wolves
Whiley Mark Toronto Wolves
Wearden Patrick Wellington Warriors
By my calculations (after delistments), I need 4 draft picks from you oz lol
Are we still able to delist further players as well.
We want to upgrade three rookies, where do we announce it?
Quote from: JROO8 on November 21, 2013, 04:27:19 PM
We want to upgrade three rookies, where do we announce it?
Using draft picks I think
Excuse my ignorance Os, but does this mean I have to delist 3 players (that aren't rookies) before the draft?
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance Os, but does this mean I have to delist 3 players (that aren't rookies) before the draft?
Yep. Then you will have to delist more if you want to use your draft picks. And considering you have picks 12, 21 and 87 I'm assuming you'll delist 2 more...
Surprisingly on my whole list (rookies included) I currently only have 2 people who are not on an AFL list. Will probably delist a couple more though so I can use my 3 picks in the first 2 rounds...
Haha we won't have any problems getting under the limit. #15delistings
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 21, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance Os, but does this mean I have to delist 3 players (that aren't rookies) before the draft?
Yep. Then you will have to delist more if you want to use your draft picks. And considering you have picks 12, 21 and 87 I'm assuming you'll delist 2 more...
Perhaps should've done some prior list management to avoid such issues :P
Cheers CF.
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 21, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance Os, but does this mean I have to delist 3 players (that aren't rookies) before the draft?
Yep. Then you will have to delist more if you want to use your draft picks. And considering you have picks 12, 21 and 87 I'm assuming you'll delist 2 more...
Perhaps should've done some prior list management to avoid such issues :P
Cheers CF.
Haha perhaps. I was going through mine and realised I had no use for pick 81 at all, so that's why I traded it away to get a small pick upgrade :)
delistings can be made here:
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,87166.0.html
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 21, 2013, 07:18:53 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 21, 2013, 07:08:57 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 21, 2013, 06:35:28 PM
Excuse my ignorance Os, but does this mean I have to delist 3 players (that aren't rookies) before the draft?
Yep. Then you will have to delist more if you want to use your draft picks. And considering you have picks 12, 21 and 87 I'm assuming you'll delist 2 more...
Perhaps should've done some prior list management to avoid such issues :P
Cheers CF.
Haha perhaps. I was going through mine and realised I had no use for pick 81 at all, so that's why I traded it away to get a small pick upgrade :)
And why I made sure I could take my pick 78 to get my superstar.
after hearing Sam Mitchell will indeed be a D/M in 2014 he will be on the table for a younger gun mid or a not old gun ruck
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 05, 2013, 03:17:20 PM
after hearing Sam Mitchell will indeed be a D/M in 2014 he will be on the table for a younger gun mid or a not old gun ruck
Trading Mitchell for a "gun" is way overs imo. You want a young gun mid, so you want a 10 season premo or a not old gun ruck... so you want a 5-7 year premo ruck
For a guy who play 1 or 2 seasons as a defender? Yes, he's more valuable now that he's a defender but he isn't worth his weight in gold.
Quote from: Nails on December 05, 2013, 04:15:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 05, 2013, 03:17:20 PM
after hearing Sam Mitchell will indeed be a D/M in 2014 he will be on the table for a younger gun mid or a not old gun ruck
Trading Mitchell for a "gun" is way overs imo. You want a young gun mid, so you want a 10 season premo or a not old gun ruck... so you want a 5-7 year premo ruck
For a guy who play 1 or 2 seasons as a defender? Yes, he's more valuable now that he's a defender but he isn't worth his weight in gold.
we are willing to do a Judd/Mitchell deal for the right price but for Mitchell alone i don't mean someone like Fyfe i mean maybe an Adams etc
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
that had slipped my mind lol, thanks. :'(
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
couldnt that fact that mitchell picked up dpp be a reason for trading though?
they might not need a defender and assumed mitchell was going to be mid only. It wasnt a certainty he would gain dpp i was 50/50
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
couldnt that fact that mitchell picked up dpp be a reason for trading though?
they might not need a defender and assumed mitchell was going to be mid only. It wasnt a certainty he would gain dpp i was 50/50
but we can still use him as a mid and is even better to us with DPP
Is "Our team still needs improving?" a good enough reason :P
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
couldnt that fact that mitchell picked up dpp be a reason for trading though?
they might not need a defender and assumed mitchell was going to be mid only. It wasnt a certainty he would gain dpp i was 50/50
Would have to let ossie rule, but in my opinion no it shouldn't be a reason. Because as KB said they can still use him as a mid, so they haven't actually lost anything from their team. As he said he is even better since he got the DPP, so if I was running the game (which clearly I'm not) then you wouldn't be able to trade someone who gained DPP since you haven't actually lost anything.
Quote from: Memphistopheles on December 05, 2013, 05:01:17 PM
Is "Our team still needs improving?" a good enough reason :P
Was thinking this exact thing :P
"Our team cant get much worse"
;D
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
couldnt that fact that mitchell picked up dpp be a reason for trading though?
they might not need a defender and assumed mitchell was going to be mid only. It wasnt a certainty he would gain dpp i was 50/50
Would have to let ossie rule, but in my opinion no it shouldn't be a reason. Because as KB said they can still use him as a mid, so they haven't actually lost anything from their team. As he said he is even better since he got the DPP, so if I was running the game (which clearly I'm not) then you wouldn't be able to trade someone who gained DPP since you haven't actually lost anything.
I think under this rule (similar thing happened with Jared Brennan for me last year)
(I think) KB is allowed to trade in a mid for someone else in his team under the idea that "well now that Mitchell is a defender, it'd be stupid to not play him as a defender so I need to trade in a mid to cover the hole that is caused by Mitchell becoming D/M eligible"
Quote from: Nails on December 05, 2013, 11:25:14 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 05:28:57 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2013, 04:52:08 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 05, 2013, 04:43:11 PM
KB you realise that the next trading period you can't just trade anyone you want right? You have to have a reason for trading, i.e you lost a forward due to positional changes so you are trading to get one. I guess someone like Mexico could trade for Mitchell since they have lost Goddard as a defender, but not everyone is going to be able to trade with you.
couldnt that fact that mitchell picked up dpp be a reason for trading though?
they might not need a defender and assumed mitchell was going to be mid only. It wasnt a certainty he would gain dpp i was 50/50
Would have to let ossie rule, but in my opinion no it shouldn't be a reason. Because as KB said they can still use him as a mid, so they haven't actually lost anything from their team. As he said he is even better since he got the DPP, so if I was running the game (which clearly I'm not) then you wouldn't be able to trade someone who gained DPP since you haven't actually lost anything.
I think under this rule (similar thing happened with Jared Brennan for me last year)
(I think) KB is allowed to trade in a mid for someone else in his team under the idea that "well now that Mitchell is a defender, it'd be stupid to not play him as a defender so I need to trade in a mid to cover the hole that is caused by Mitchell becoming D/M eligible"
Yeah that makes sense, but in this case KB is wanting to trade away Mitchell. Not cover his move from midfield to defense
Yeah I don't think he can trade him under the context he wants, but maybe he can sighting "he's worth more now and given more trade value is only fair he can be traded now" idk
or maybe he can trade mitchell on for a midfielder sighting he's never really going to be used as a mid anyway and he needs mids, but keeping mitchell would be stupid for a team that needs mids as he's going to used as a defender, therefore trading him for a slightly better mid
idk
but if another team needs a defender due to DPP changes i could trade him for anyone right?
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 05, 2013, 11:35:34 PM
but if another team needs a defender due to DPP changes i could trade him for anyone right?
Yep. It's only one team that needs to validate why they need to do the trade.
And there's a cap on movements in this second period too, right?
Quote from: elephants on December 06, 2013, 02:32:38 AM
And there's a cap on movements in this second period too, right?
Yes, but you're probably going to ask what it is.... I don't think more than 5....
big news coming out of Tokyo
one of Dahlhaus, Henderson or Motlop
are on the table for a not old gun mid or ruck
do we vote on trades in the 2nd period? just curious
Mexico City Suns need forwards with Lewis losing DPP, so PM me if you have any forwards for sale. Willing to give up decent players.
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Mexico City Suns need forwards with Lewis losing DPP, so PM me if you have any forwards for sale. Willing to give up decent players.
Can have Tory Dickson for Shannon Hurn. ;D
Quote from: NigeyS on December 10, 2013, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Mexico City Suns need forwards with Lewis losing DPP, so PM me if you have any forwards for sale. Willing to give up decent players.
Can have Dayne Beams for Shannon Hurn. ;D
Sure.
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Mexico City Suns need forwards with Lewis losing DPP, so PM me if you have any forwards for sale. Willing to give up decent players.
JPod, Gia and Montags all fit the Suns' structure ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 10, 2013, 05:55:58 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 10, 2013, 05:47:27 PM
Mexico City Suns need forwards with Lewis losing DPP, so PM me if you have any forwards for sale. Willing to give up decent players.
JPod, Gia and Montags all fit the Suns' structure ;)
you cant trade Dublin players Ric ;P
So after Howlett and TMitch gaining DPP our fwds have become very stacked. Wouldnt mind trading some of our fwds for decent mids :)
When does this period start and end
Ok I know it starts straight after the rookie draft
But when does it end
My team list has now been updated in my team thread, so if anyone is looking for trades my correct team is now there :)
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Have a look here. http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88009.0.html
TooSerious leaked all the positions.
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Have a look here. http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88009.0.html
TooSerious leaked all the positions.
Not sure I trust it!
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Have a look here. http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88009.0.html
TooSerious leaked all the positions.
Not sure I trust it!
They've been right with every single position and price so far...
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 13, 2013, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Have a look here. http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88009.0.html
TooSerious leaked all the positions.
Not sure I trust it!
They've been right with every single position and price so far...
I trust CF though....
Pacific looking for young mids with job security. Have forwards to trade :)
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 01:52:44 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 13, 2013, 01:47:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on December 13, 2013, 01:17:46 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 13, 2013, 12:58:53 PM
I've been a bit out of the loop...
Have all positions (in SC) been named yet? And if so, is there a list somewhere?
Oz
Have a look here. http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,88009.0.html
TooSerious leaked all the positions.
Not sure I trust it!
They've been right with every single position and price so far...
I trust CF though....
Haha thanks os :)
Supercoach now open for gold members apparently
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 13, 2013, 02:27:18 PM
Supercoach now open for gold members apparently
Confirmed.
Our list is up to date in the second last post of our team thread, not actively looking for anyone or anything in particular.
However, if you need an R/F, we'll sell you David Hale... and we're not asking for too much in return. :)
Just double-checked, we now have an excess of forwards. If you need any, we're happy to trade some of our younger forwards. Breust, Puopolo, Knights and Johnston are the only ones that won't be sold.
Just to clarify/double-check... To make a trade this period, one team has to have a DPP related reason or something, yeah?
Yep
Seoul literally have positional changes in every position so come chat if you need one of our players ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 14, 2013, 12:34:26 PM
Seoul literally have positional changes in every position so come chat if you need one of our players ;)
I need a forward. Trade me Danger? :P
We have Stevie J > mid only so need a forward
Hit me/vinny/nrich102 up
Sure thing! but to make it fair trade me all of your best 15, and il trade you all of my best 15 :P
But seriously. Lecras, Balla, and Mglynn can all be traded.
May hold off on the next trade period to the new year?
That's fine with me
Maybe we can post trades now but voting doesn't start until the New Year or sumn
I'm already deep in trade talks :o
We may as well leave it running from now until the pre-season comp starts? Like Nails said, not vote on them until the new year...
Berlin may or may not be a blockbuster trade after all....
Yeh I like that too
Sounds good, our defence has been destroyed so give us your kids with back status :P
If you need a defender Sam Mitchell is for sale for a ruck or good young mid
top 5 defender come and get him
Quote from: ossie85 on December 14, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
May hold off on the next trade period to the new year?
Sounds good Ossman as my net isn't back until this week :)
I know we cant vote till next year but Oz has allowed it to be posted.
Monster trade.
Dublin Give: Nathan Fyfe + Mitch Clark + Lachie Hunter
Berlin Give: Lance Franklin + Nick Dal Santo + Tom Mcdoanld.
Reason: I was hoping that tom rockliff would keep his DPP as my forward line is abit shakey. The midfield is my strongest line and with Rocky now a mid only I can afford to lose Fyfe. Mitche Clark is not needed with Buddy in the forward line and Nick Dal Santo can hopefully average within 10 of Fyfe. He is old but should have 2-3 years left.
Lachie Hunter posted some very nice scores last year and long term he is better than Tom Mcdonal but wanted to cash in Hunters gain of DPP and gained a solid bench quality player who will average 75-80 for the rest of his career.
Big Dublin win imo
Are we actually allowed to post trades? Ossie never said it in this thread?
Trades can be posted, but they won't be voted on until later.
And yeah... huge win to Dublin. :-X
I think Berlin do well in this trade...
Sorry but what is the positional change reasoning behind this trade? As far as I can tell there isn't a change in position to allow the trade to go ahead...
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
Sorry but what is the positional change reasoning behind this trade? As far as I can tell there isn't a change in position to allow the trade to go ahead...
That and Holz is
giving Mitch Clark despite calling his forward line shaky. Also, he's adding Dal Santo who is > Fyfe.
Holz mentioned something about Lachie Hunter being given DPP but idk :-X
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
Sorry but what is the positional change reasoning behind this trade? As far as I can tell there isn't a change in position to allow the trade to go ahead...
That and Holz is giving Mitch Clark despite calling his forward line shaky. Also, he's adding Dal Santo who is > Fyfe.
Um I'd take Fyfe over Dal Santo ;)
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Seems like I won that trade after all ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 03:47:51 PM
Trades can be posted, but they won't be voted on until later.
And yeah... huge win to Dublin. :-X
all depends on buddy and clark.
Buddy could do anything really. He is much better player than he showed this year, the issue is buddy at Sydney. Sydney are a low scoring team with a solid midfield and tippett who is really good. I think he can go 95-100 and thats enough for me.
Fyfe is a star 108 average player at 19, could easily be a 115+ player once he sorts out his kicking abit.
clark is only 26 if he gets his body right he could be a very solid forward.
Quote from: Jayman on December 16, 2013, 03:56:14 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Seems like I won that trade after all ;)
Haha looks that way now
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 03:54:27 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:52:15 PM
Sorry but what is the positional change reasoning behind this trade? As far as I can tell there isn't a change in position to allow the trade to go ahead...
That and Holz is giving Mitch Clark despite calling his forward line shaky. Also, he's adding Dal Santo who is > Fyfe.
in what world is NDS > Fyfe.
Fyfe went 108 at 19, he still wasnt 100% this year and averaged 106. He will shortly join the super premo category. NDS is 29 and will still pick up a hard tag. Im expecting Fyfe to smash him. Most people i asked to said Fyfe > Buddy and I agree.
the mitch clark issue is yes he could be very good but he isnt a solid forward by any means. If i had rocky i would have 5 solid forwards and mitch clark. Without rocky I have 4 solid forwards so mitch clark as cover isnt too strong.
Already told ossie last trade period that I was 50/50 on rocky keeping dpp and I would have done this trade last period but was waiting on the result and would trade accordingly.
If Rocky lost DPP I would get buddy if he didnt i wouldnt trade.
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 04:04:28 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 04:00:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
top teams getting scared, watch this trade get rejected for that reason ;)
This trade period is to fix holes/add depth to where you're missing due to DPP
It's in the rules, simple as that
You're claiming a missing forward through DPP, therefore your trade needs to net 1 forward or more, not involve trading away your forward line.
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
This trade period is to fix holes/add depth to where you're missing due to DPP
It's in the rules, simple as that
You're claiming a missing forward through DPP, therefore your trade needs to net 1 forward or more, not involve trading away your forward line.
not how I look at it
I traded a Star Midfielder and a good Forward for a Star Forward and a Good Midfielder.
Are you saying Buddy and Mitch Clark are even a comparison?
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Maybe he has another trade on the cards?
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 03:46:29 PM
Big Dublin win imo
Are we actually allowed to post trades? Ossie never said it in this thread?
Yeah, go ahead and post :)
Correct me if I am wrong changing DPP is to be the reason for trades this period.
This is the rule Ossie quoted "A trade can only be allowed if at least one of the players involved had a position change, or there was a reasonable expectation they were going to have a position change, but didn't."
According to that rule and Rockliff is the reason given should not Rockliff be involved in the trade. May be reading the rule incorrectly but do not think so,
Quote from: Master Q on December 16, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Maybe he has another trade on the cards?
Nah, Holz is trying to make his 2014 team as good as he can for a premiership tilt this season.
Quote from: Holzman on December 16, 2013, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 04:07:17 PM
This trade period is to fix holes/add depth to where you're missing due to DPP
It's in the rules, simple as that
You're claiming a missing forward through DPP, therefore your trade needs to net 1 forward or more, not involve trading away your forward line.
not how I look at it
I traded a Star Midfielder and a good Forward for a Star Forward and a Good Midfielder.
Are you saying Buddy and Mitch Clark are even a comparison?
You're trading 3 players
2 forwards for 1 forward
which perpetuates your supposed DPP issues, not fixes them. This period is to fix wholes, not make them bigger.
RE: Ringo
I'm not sure if the player has to be involved in the trade or not (I was under the impression he just had to be sighted as the reason why) i.e. you're filling up a gap made by Steve Johnson so you're trading a midfielder to get af orward
Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Correct me if I am wrong changing DPP is to be the reason for trades this period.
This is the rule Ossie quoted "A trade can only be allowed if at least one of the players involved had a position change, or there was a reasonable expectation they were going to have a position change, but didn't."
According to that rule and Rockliff is the reason given should not Rockliff be involved in the trade. May be reading the rule incorrectly but do not think so,
Nah Rocky doesn't have to be involved, but it doesn't change the fact that Holz is trading out a forward while labeling his forward line 'shaky', even if he is trading in another.
Quote from: NigeyS on December 16, 2013, 04:16:52 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 16, 2013, 04:14:21 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 16, 2013, 03:57:44 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on December 16, 2013, 03:55:16 PM
Rocky losing fwd status so Holz needing a gun fwd replacement...
Yet he then trades away 2 more forwards. Don't think that is a valid reason sorry
Maybe he has another trade on the cards?
Nah, Holz is trying to make his 2014 team as good as he can for a premiership tilt this season.
yeah there is no trade coming up on the horizon. Had this one lined up for a long time, well before the first trade period closed was just dependent on rocky DPP.
I have plenty of up and coming forwards but I want 5 solid forwards going into the season (esepcially with injury prone dixon) doing this trade with rocky DPP is stupid as 5 solid forwards is too many.
there are classes of players. i need another tier 1 forward. My starting 15 is greatly influenced by rocky dpp, not my bench
I have plenty of guys like Hunter so he is no loss. I have lots of forwards who will be good in the future but not now.
Yeah, Sorry Ringo I wasn't clear (and worded badly). You need to have a player change (or not) DPP that impacted the structure of the team.
Well guess it opens up the door for a few trades we have been considering then if that one can get through... Thought the reasoning would have to be stronger.
Quote from: Boomz on December 16, 2013, 04:25:15 PM
Well guess it opens up the door for a few trades we have been considering then if that one can get through... Thought the reasoning would have to be stronger.
i guess we will see but this trade was ready for a long time and i told ossie i would be trading for a gun forward if rocky lost dpp months ago.
Quote from: Ringo on December 16, 2013, 04:15:42 PM
Correct me if I am wrong changing DPP is to be the reason for trades this period.
This is the rule Ossie quoted "A trade can only be allowed if at least one of the players involved had a position change
Lachie Hunter :P
I was going to use the reasoning of:
"We were headed for a McDonald - Hunter swap, the other 2 trades were to balance it out"
And yeah, confirmed. After
months of Holz chasing Buddy, he gets his man. Fyfe could quite possibly be the best SC midfielder, even AFL midfielder, in his career. VERY hard to say no. Also, talks of a potential Buddy struggle at Sydney probably weakened my stance on him... he is a star though, and I'm letting him go thinking he will average around 100.
Clark, if fit (oh please be fit), WILL average 80+, if firing, 90+. This trade also makes me more comfortable about my future, with a Steven/Fyfe duo leading the way ahead of Conca, Trengove, Crouch and Viney for my mids.
*Braces for a Berlin supporter outcry*
Buddy has been our poster boy since day ONE, when I took him with Pick 5 in the original draft.
I absolutely hated him pre-WXV, but Berlin made me love him. You will be missed ol mate.
Still don't think getting rid of 2 forwards to get 1 forward to replace a missing forward is fixing DPP :o
essentially you're 2 forwards down
but it looks good, time for some dillos trading.
Two heavily requested players from other teams are likely to become available
PM myself/vinny if you are interested in Jarrad Redden and/or Robert Warnock
We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.
I'm am back baby 8)
Open to any trade talks :P
Currently taking offers on Robert Warnock
We have 1 offer currently under consideration. PM Me/Vinny/nrich102 if interested.
Quote from: Nails on December 17, 2013, 09:10:11 PM
Currently taking offers on Robert Warnock
We have 1 offer currently under consideration. PM Me/Vinny/nrich102 if interested.
The best offer you'll get
Cairo give: David Hale
Dillos give: Andrew Carrazzo
Reason: Dillos want another forward for the reason Nails stated above, which can also be seen in the quote below. We get a player to slot into our mids/interchange and sure up our depth.
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.
Quote from: NigeyS on December 31, 2013, 02:17:15 PM
Cairo give: David Hale
Dillos give: Andrew Carrazzo
Reason: Dillos want another forward for the reason Nails stated above, which can also be seen in the quote below. We get a player to slot into our mids/interchange and sure up our depth.
Quote from: Nails on December 16, 2013, 11:32:00 PM
We need to replace our forwards lost through DPP.
Confirmed
We lost Stevie J and Cox from our forward line, still looking to get another forward to fix it.
It is a tad concerning though as take out Carrazzo's injuries and he was a 105 average in 2012. Without injury in 2014 he could be superstud again.
Though having Hale is great as he makes a solid F5 and R2 for us.
:D
And Happy new year to all WXV participants as we enter the THIRD year of our little comp.
And the second trade period is up!
RULES FOR SECOND TRADE PERIOD
- Trades can only occur if they are resulting from DPP positions
- Have to be 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3 or 4 for 4
- Only 4 player movements allowed
- Still can't go over or under cap
- I decide solely on the trades. However, people have the right to appeal my decision. If 6 coaches PM me, we will open discussions again regarding the trading.
Trade 57:
Dublin trade: Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Clark, Lachie Hunter
Berlin trade: Lance Franklin, Nick Dal Santo, Tom McDonald
Verdict: APPROVE
In what I'm sure won't be a decision that will please everybody. Each trade in this period has 2 criteria:
a) - Is it because of positional changes?
b) - Is it fair?
If this trade had happened without any prior knowledge, I'd be close to rejecting it on the first criteria. However, both Dublin and Berlin had contacted me well prior (during the 1st trade period), saying that they would like to do this trade IF Tom Rockliff (Dublin) lost his forward status. Which he did, and they traded. So based on that and the fantastic communication by the two teams, it has to pass the first criteria.
The second criteria relates to fairness. I broke it down into three:
Nat Fyfe v Lance Franklin - You could argue breaks even. Franklin one of the few elite forwards on a 9 year contract, while Fyfe a genuine superstar who could average 120+.
Nick Dal Santo v Mitch Clark - Again, another one you could argue breaks even. Dal Santo is a genuine star, but on the decline, however a new AFL club could mean anything for him. Mitch Clark has genuine capability as a forward, and injury free he could average 80+ (his last stretch of games where he played 7 matches in a row he averaged 96! And this was playing for Melbourne!).
Tom McDonald v Lachie Hunter - Another break even. McDonald and Hunter both young, both with strong potential.
Trade 58:
Cairo trade: David Hale
Buenos Aires trade: Andrew Carrazzo
Verdict: APPROVE
Passes the DPP criteria, with Buenos Aires ravaged in the forward line (no Stevie J or Cox anymore). Think is fair with the two old war horses parting way. Actually makes Buenos Aires a younger team by about 4 months also :P
Movements:
3: Berlin, Dublin
1: Buenos Aires, Cairo
Awesome!
How long do coaches have to reject a trade?
yay It's hailing down at Buenos Aires :D
Quote from: Purple 77 on January 02, 2014, 10:45:07 AM
Awesome!
How long do coaches have to reject a trade?
A week :)
Quote from: Nails on January 02, 2014, 11:02:49 AM
yay It's hailing down at Buenos Aires :D
Ain't that a nice birthday present. :P
Trade period will close 11:59pm Vic time, January 31st.
Hey guys, as you know I've taken over as the head coach of Mexico City Suns.
Ossie has allowed me until start of the Geelong/Collingwood match on Wednesday night, to complete some trades but they must be positional changes.
Players such as the guys below could be traded:
Brian Lake
Mark Baguley
Michael Firritto
Daniel Pearce
James Strauss
Daniel Currie
Corey Enright
Mark Blicavs
Brad Ebert
Jordan Lewis
Scott Thompson
Brent Moloney
Bernie Vince
Nathan Hrovat
Brandon Jack
Anyone not named could still be traded just PM me.
Mainly looking for forwards or guns.
I've got under three hours to talk trades, so if anyone wants to talk PM me. Hopefully I don't exceed the 20 hour PM limit ::)
TRADE!!!!!!!!
Mexico City Suns give: Corey Enright
PNL give: Matthew Pavlich
Reason: After Jimmy Bartel gained DEF status and lost FWD status, we need a forward to replace him.
HP/Daz to confrim :)
We accept. We could use a top scoring back more than a top scoring forward, and helps out the Suns with their forward line. It's pretty much a change of positions for players as they are both old an suits both teams needs :).
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:11:09 PM
We accept. We could use a top scoring back more than a top scoring forward, and helps out the Suns with their forward line. It's pretty much a change of positions for players as they are both old an suits both teams needs :).
Why would you want to help out the Suns? ???
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 12, 2014, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:11:09 PM
We accept. We could use a top scoring back more than a top scoring forward, and helps out the Suns with their forward line. It's pretty much a change of positions for players as they are both old an suits both teams needs :).
Why would you want to help out the Suns? ???
They need forwards, we need scoring backs. We had a similar deal with somebody else where it was an oldie for an oldie, but then the other person pulled out... We are always out to help out others if we can help ourselves ;).
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 12, 2014, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:11:09 PM
We accept. We could use a top scoring back more than a top scoring forward, and helps out the Suns with their forward line. It's pretty much a change of positions for players as they are both old an suits both teams needs :).
Why would you want to help out the Suns? ???
They need forwards, we need scoring backs. We had a similar deal with somebody else where it was an oldie for an oldie, but then the other person pulled out... We are always out to help out others if we can help ourselves ;).
Enjoy losing to the teams you 'help' out ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 12, 2014, 05:45:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:43:33 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on February 12, 2014, 05:39:26 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on February 12, 2014, 05:11:09 PM
We accept. We could use a top scoring back more than a top scoring forward, and helps out the Suns with their forward line. It's pretty much a change of positions for players as they are both old an suits both teams needs :).
Why would you want to help out the Suns? ???
They need forwards, we need scoring backs. We had a similar deal with somebody else where it was an oldie for an oldie, but then the other person pulled out... We are always out to help out others if we can help ourselves ;).
Enjoy losing to the teams you 'help' out ;)
Hard to trade with other teams when people rate players very differently or have similar strategies, so means you're likely forced to trade with teams with different strategies.
Given, Pav for Enright is pretty much just a swap of positions :P. So isn't really favouring one of the other :P.
Quote from: JROO8 on February 12, 2014, 05:05:53 PM
TRADE!!!!!!!!
Mexico City Suns give: Corey Enright
PNL give: Matthew Pavlich
Reason: After Jimmy Bartel gained DEF status and lost FWD status, we need a forward to replace him.
HP/Daz to confrim :)
No issue approving this one, as Enright quickly puts on a Reindeer jumper for the clash starting now!
Other coaches can appeal this decision by PMing me.
Trade period over!!!