I reckon we will need 13 wins to be assured a top 8 position this year without having to worry about other results, percentage etc.
So where do the come from?
Games to come:
Freo @MCG
Syd @SCG
Haw @MCG
Bris @MCG
Carl @MCG
Gws @skoda
Ess @MCG
Should beat Brisbane and GWS from that bunch which gives us 12 wins but the others are very tough games.
I think we can beat Freo this week. We lost to them in the dying seconds at Subi earlier in the year.
Pav was the difference when we played them at the G last year kicking 6 goals but he will be a likely out after being reported for a head high bump on the weekend.
Sydney at the SCG is mission impossible. We always play well against Hawthorn and did belt them last season but you would mark that with a cross at this point. Then there is Carlton and Essendon. Carlton are better than their record suggests and Essendon are top 4 material this season. Need to win one of those.
How many wins do you see us finishing on for the season?
I actually reckon we'll win 4 of the those remaining 7.
Freo, Brisbane, GWS and Carlton should be wins. However, knocking off one of Essendon, Hawthorn or Sydney would be awesome.
I hope we can knock Freo off. Will take the pressure right off us
I genuinely hope we go in to next week unchanged.
Ricky Petterd has to stay after his game this week.
Arnot performed well enough to keep his spot I think.
I didn't watch the game though, so those calls are only based off what I know regarding stats, fantasy scores, highlights and reports.
Just watch the lions beat the tigers 8) You should beat Carlton and GWS.
I reckon you guys will probably beat us.
We will pretty much be guaranteed 5th spot by that point, and you guys will be coming out trying to win a home final (or get into the finals).
The intensity just won't be there for us.
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
I reckon you guys will probably beat us.
We will pretty much be guaranteed 5th spot by that point, and you guys will be coming out trying to win a home final (or get into the finals).
The intensity just won't be there for us.
Or you'll be 18th with 0 points and a team consisting of Goddard, Kommer, Daniher, Ashby, Van Unen, Gleeson and Gregory :P
Quote from: roo boys! on July 15, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
I reckon you guys will probably beat us.
We will pretty much be guaranteed 5th spot by that point, and you guys will be coming out trying to win a home final (or get into the finals).
The intensity just won't be there for us.
Or you'll be 18th with 0 points and a team consisting of Goddard, Kommer, Daniher, Ashby, Van Unen, Gleeson and Gregory :P
You are just so, so wrong.
...Joe was at the club last year - so he'll be banned too. :P
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 11:10:06 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 15, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
I reckon you guys will probably beat us.
We will pretty much be guaranteed 5th spot by that point, and you guys will be coming out trying to win a home final (or get into the finals).
The intensity just won't be there for us.
Or you'll be 18th with 0 points and a team consisting of Goddard, Kommer, Daniher, Ashby, Van Unen, Gleeson and Gregory :P
You are just so, so wrong.
...Joe was at the club last year - so he'll be banned too. :P
#cut4joe
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 11:10:06 AM
Quote from: roo boys! on July 15, 2013, 10:52:25 AM
Quote from: Sid on July 15, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
I reckon you guys will probably beat us.
We will pretty much be guaranteed 5th spot by that point, and you guys will be coming out trying to win a home final (or get into the finals).
The intensity just won't be there for us.
Or you'll be 18th with 0 points and a team consisting of Goddard, Kommer, Daniher, Ashby, Van Unen, Gleeson and Gregory :P
You are just so, so wrong.
...Joe was at the club last year - so he'll be banned too. :P
Hahaha sorry about that, so inconsiderate of me :P
I cant see you beating Freo this week - sorry boys.
Quote from: valkorum on July 15, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
I cant see you beating Freo this week - sorry boys.
You beat us by a point or something earlier in the year at subi. At the G its a whole new kettle of fish. I think its a 50/50 game.
Helps us that you dont have Mcpharlin and probably Pav as well
We didnt have Pav last time and McPharlin was only just back in after being out (susp or injury - cant remember). Sandi improved from last week so should be better again next week. Maric gonna have a tough time against Clarke/Sandi and maybe Hannath (if he comes in for Pav)
Quote from: valkorum on July 15, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
We didnt have Pav last time and McPharlin was only just back in after being out (susp or injury - cant remember). Sandi improved from last week so should be better again next week. Maric gonna have a tough time against Clarke/Sandi and maybe Hannath (if he comes in for Pav)
I know but you did have Pav last time you played us in Melbourne and he was the difference. Mcpharlin may have been underdone last time but he dominated Riewoldt so hopefully Riewoldt can kick a few this time.
Maric will certainly have his work cut out.
Its Walters and Ballantyne that im most worried about. Very hard to stop both of them
I would be more worried about Mayne
Quote from: valkorum on July 15, 2013, 12:58:32 PM
I would be more worried about Mayne
Yeah problem with Mayne is he doesnt bloody miss. We have reasonable matchups for him though. Richmonds worry has always been the small forwards. Morris will go to one of them but dont really have a good match up for the other
I reckon Freo will beat us and we'll get the 4 points off either Hawks or Swans.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on July 15, 2013, 04:34:18 PM
I reckon Freo will beat us and we'll get the 4 points off either Hawks or Swans.
We don't stand a chance of beating Sydney at the scg. Hawthorn we could beat but I reckon freo is our best bet
i know its cliche but this is the classic "8 point game"
whoever loses makes it harder to make the 8 and the 4 respectively
If the Sydney game wa at the MCG it would be a different story.
Out of the last 10 games between Swans and Tigers
it is locked at 5-all with both teams having a 100% winning record at home
I think Freo might just beat you guys - Sorry :P
Will be a ripper of a game tho ! Pav being out does also help you.
Our next three weeks are very difficult. All of them are likely to be top 4 so it will be interesting to see how we go.
I think our best chance is against Freo while the Hawks is winnable. The Sydney game is the hardest.
Before our bye I was thinking to make finals we need to beat one of Freo, Hawthorn or Sydney.
We then must bea GWS and Brisbane and one of Carlton or Essendon.
I'm really looking forwards to the match this weekend, think it's gonna be a ripper. As quinny said, Pav & McPharlin out give us a big leg up IMO, as I think it was Fremantle's defense (and the umpires leg ::)) that won it for the Dockers last time around - every ball into our forward fifty directed at Jack was just chopped off by Johnson with Jack being double or triple teamed.
That being said I would like to see us try to stretch the Dockers' defense this week with all three of Jroo, Vickery and Az still in the side, and potentially even bring in the Big O to help Ivvy out with the ruck duties vs Sandi & Clarke...
As for Mayne, he is definitely a danger man! Need to cut off that supply to him, but I think Chappy will match up on him okay with Pavlich out... If Freo had both Mayne & Pav then it might be a different story! But think Chappy should be able to cover him.
Freo will beat you lot by 50 odd. Not even close
Watch out for the Lions too. Won 3 of our last 4 including wins against decent teams in North and Geelong.
I think Richmond has dropped horribly in form tbh :-\ I'd say in my humble opinion that it's an 80% chance for Freo to win. If it were the beginning of the year I'd say Richmond would win easily (I thought they would of cleared the top 8 at the beginning of this season (unless Richmond are similar to Carlton (Carlton are the most disappointing team in the AFL (how have they been so undisciplined that they cannot finish in the top 4 let alone the 8) :P Richmond should be a top 4 team soon)
But I watched the game against GCS and unless there was some extraneous factor I didn't know about I'd have to say that the way they performed was not up to top 8 standard. I don't know what happened but it was like watching them play a good game back a few years ago when they were at the bottom. Freo played fantastic against the Eagles and completely smashed them.
But hey.. If Richmond rekindle that red hot form they were in at the beginning of the season I think they should easily finish in the the 8 and will do well in finals (for a 5-8 standard). Hopefully they can continue this improvement because it would be great to see them as a grand final competitor in the next few years. They have the players they just need to return to playing like they did earlier this season. I'm a port adelaide supporter and I can easily say that out of the top tier teams that have defeated Port this season Richmond and Geelong are the only two to have actual destroyed them. All other teams we are in it until the end (in the Hawks case until halftime ;) ) but Geelong and Richmond were not good games for me to subjectively watch :) Freo are my second favourite team but when they played Richmond in round 5 this season I found myself cheering for the tigers, they are a great team featuring amazing young talents but they seriously need to get back into form, considering where they are and where GCS are Richmond should have smashed them and that game against North Melbourne was bewildering :-\ But if they beat Freo I think that's the sign (Cotchin already looks like he is back to his form from last season). Put it this way, if Richmond beat Freo I think they'll easily smash Carlton and GWS and could take out Collingwood as well (horrible team this season, they'll soon be with the Bullies and the Saints). Lets hope for the best from them :) (also I think if Cotchin hadn't been maimed in r5 Richmond probably would have picked up the win ;) )
Richmond should easily make the 8 but if they don't return to form I doubt they'll even beat Carlton :-\ We could even see Port finish 7th with their easy draw if they can beat the crap teams and finish the home & away season off with a win over the Blues at AAMI ;)
Just had a look...
Richmond are the result of a favourable early draw. The only team Richmond have beat in the 8 are the 8th place team in Port...
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 02:48:55 PM
Just had a look...
Richmond are the result of a favourable early draw. The only team Richmond have beat in the 8 are the 8th place team in Port...
Yeah I'm doubting them on their recent form tbh. They have some great young players but there are still some unless players in their line-up. I doubt that Richmond would beat the Lions at the Gabba in their recent form but they are playing at MCG.
I'm relieved that Port plays Lions at AAMI because Brisbane and the Gabba are not a favourable combination for the away team :-\
Interesting stat; Richmond's win/loss record vs Freo at the MCG is 7-2...
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 04:38:32 PM
Interesting stat; Richmond's win/loss record vs Freo at the MCG is 7-2...
Remember that Fremantle were complete and utter sh#t until 2010 ;) and I think they had one good season in 2006 before that hahaha
So were Richmond :P
Well, Ballantyne out is only going to help us...
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-16/injury-list-round-17.workstation
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 06:32:11 PM
Well, Ballantyne out is only going to help us...
http://www.fremantlefc.com.au/news/2013-07-16/injury-list-round-17.workstation
This is looking to be a good game, I can't wait to watch it. Pav & Ballentyne both gone, if Mayne was a late out I'd give the tigers the benefit of the doubt. Can't tell now with Ballentyne out, important player from the Dockers and would have occupied Richmond's best defender.. McPharlin's omission due to injury will also maim them and unless Duffield returns it'll mean Ibbo or Johnson will be racking up the points (hopefully Ibbo for my dt's sake). Looks to be good, too me either way both teams are ahead of Port on the ladder so I don't mind who wins, Freo are my 2nd favourite team (doesn't really mean shower though :P ) but I have to say it is in my best interest for a tiger victory as my dreamteam has Ibbo (better if the game is played in Freo's back 50) and from Richmond I have Dusty & Cotchin so lets hope that I can get a big score from all three ;D
I don't get why everyone is so anti-richmond though, I think they will be a top 4 team soon, they have an abundance of young talent and they all seem quite discipline (lack of discipline in my opinion is what's holding Carlton back, they have the players to be a top tier team but they are mostly bogans and trouble makers that lack any leadership (Murphy & Swallow aren't good captains, Firruto & Judd should have retained the captaincy until a more proven leader was established). Cotchin is quite a good captain (exclude if omissions and affected season from injury) and a step up from Newman but at 23 he still seems very young for the role but hey Boak is 24 and Port's best captain since Tredrea :)
Nails, get a grip mate. Freo wont beat us by 50 at the G. Cant remember the last time we were belted at the G. We lost to them by 1 point earlier in the year at subiaco where they play their best footy. And Brisbane are no threat, we will smack them at the G. Also yeah we have beat one team in the 8 but we are a lower 8 side so obviously that would be the case? We lost to Geelong and Essendon who are both top 4, Freo by a point and Collingwood. There is no shame in any of those, they are all better sides than us.
Powersuperkents, I agree the game is Cairns was far from impressive but the conditions there are terrible for AFL footy. The wind was blustering to one end, it was hot, slippery and humid, ill take any win up their no matter how ugly.
Ballantyne out is a massive bonus for us. Im confident we'll get the job done
freo by 5 goals minimum :P
Although I think you blokes will lose - It will be a great game.
I reckon close for three quarters. Freo to come home firing like the Derby game.
Will win by 32 pts :P
Just a guess haha.
Richmond will win this at the mcg.
"we lost to them by 1 point"
Seriously get your heads out of your arses Richmond supporters. You're an average team beating average teams. You lost to Freo by 1 point last time. So? That was before Freo were fully firing.
Brisbane beat Geelong last time they played. Doesn't mean we'll beat them next time we play. Doesn't even guarantee it'll be close.
Brisbane beating Geelong last time is as much of an indicator that we'll beat Geelong next time as only losing to Freo by 1 point means it'll be close next time.
Freo are a far better side and you won't even be in it. The only reason it'll be close is if Freo play a lockdown type of game and don't want to score lots but just play a tight defensive freo game.
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:10:58 PM
"we lost to them by 1 point"
Seriously get your heads out of your arses Richmond supporters. You're an average team beating average teams. You lost to Freo by 1 point last time. So? That was before Freo were fully firing.
Brisbane beat Geelong last time they played. Doesn't mean we'll beat them next time we play. Doesn't even guarantee it'll be close.
Brisbane beating Geelong last time is as much of an indicator that we'll beat Geelong next time as only losing to Freo by 1 point means it'll be close next time.
Freo are a far better side and you won't even be in it. The only reason it'll be close is if Freo play a lockdown type of game and don't want to score lots but just play a tight defensive freo game.
Hahah ^ Its funny, whenever richmond are doing well everyone gets so negative about it. The fact they are the second biggest club in the country scares people. Nails Richmond are a decent side. They are far better than your mob. They are going to play finals which is all they have wanted for the past 12 years. As if they care how they get there? so why are you hating on them so much?
I'm not. Just stating they're going to get smashed.
When did anyone say they werent an average team? No one is saying they should be top 4?? Maybe you should get your head out of your own ass and accept that your team is below average and would kill to be in richmonds position
It was mainly at quinny living in denial.
Richmond aren't guaranteed to make finals either. They probably have to win 2 more and only GWS is a more or less guaranteed win for them.
Let's kill the debate on this thread now and bump it after the game on Sunday arvo. :P
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
It was mainly at quinny living in denial.
Richmond aren't guaranteed to make finals either. They probably have to win 2 more and only GWS is a more or less guaranteed win for them.
They wont get smashed?
Yes they will mate. They will beat your lot and Gws comfortably
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 09:23:28 PM
Let's kill the debate on this thread now and bump it after the game on Sunday arvo. :P
Watch nails go into hiding if Richmond win
Quote from: TeeJay on July 16, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 09:23:28 PM
Let's kill the debate on this thread now and bump it after the game on Sunday arvo. :P
Watch nails go into hiding if Richmond win
I'm not a little dog. I'll probably just be like wow Richmond got lucky with their best lineup against a Freo that are missing around 4 of their most important players.
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:22:03 PM
It was mainly at quinny living in denial.
Richmond aren't guaranteed to make finals either. They probably have to win 2 more and only GWS is a more or less guaranteed win for them.
Huh?? :o How am I living in denial? I think were a chance to beat freo this week. Its just about dead even at the bookies to so how is that such an outrageous statement?
See: people hating on Richmond when we are up and about... (http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,84048.msg1155622.html#msg1155622)
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on July 16, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 09:23:28 PM
Let's kill the debate on this thread now and bump it after the game on Sunday arvo. :P
Watch nails go into hiding if Richmond win
I'm not a little dog. I'll probably just be like wow Richmond got lucky with their best lineup against a Freo that are missing around 4 of their most important players.
Already making excuses for if Richmond win ::) You said Freo would smash them by 50 mate, make up your mind
Freo will smash them. I didn't say otherwise
You said I'd hide I'm just saying if Richmond get their 1 in a million... we'd know why.
Lol Richmond supporters counting down the wins to make the finals ;D :P ::)
Well done boys! Now create some thunder once there!? ???
Maybe a year too soon to expect a win or two? Or GF :o
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Freo will smash them. I didn't say otherwise
You said I'd hide I'm just saying if Richmond get their 1 in a million... we'd know why.
It would be because they played better than them and won the game? Stop talking shower. Il bet you 50 bucks right now that freo dont smash them?
Quote from: TeeJay on July 16, 2013, 09:28:49 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:26:21 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on July 16, 2013, 09:24:11 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 09:23:28 PM
Let's kill the debate on this thread now and bump it after the game on Sunday arvo. :P
Watch nails go into hiding if Richmond win
I'm not a little dog. I'll probably just be like wow Richmond got lucky with their best lineup against a Freo that are missing around 4 of their most important players.
Already making excuses for if Richmond win ::) You said Freo would smash them by 50 mate, make up your mind
How good does this bloke think he is ::)
Tbag digging around other teams threads that are going to play finals because his own team are a joke. Typical ::)
Quote from: TeeJay on July 16, 2013, 09:35:53 PM
Tbag digging around other teams threads that are going to play finals because his own team are a joke. Typical ::)
Great come back! Almost makes you look good on that one ::)
ALL ABOARD THE TIGGY TRAIN!!
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 09:31:09 PM
Freo will smash them. I didn't say otherwise
You said I'd hide I'm just saying if Richmond get their 1 in a million... we'd know why.
Really 1 in a million? This game is a 50/50 game.
We're definitely a chance against Freo even though they are a slightly better side than us and I rate them as a top four team, but they have 2 of their most important players out in Pav and McPharlin. They also have Ballantyne out but he's not as important. Tbh I'd be very disappointed if we lost, we aren't that far off Freo and remember we're playing at the MCG. We've had one bad game against North and apparently we're shower? Lol ::)
As Quinny said all aboard the Tiggy train :P
SOMEONE LOCK THE THREAD ALREADY GOD DAMN. ::) :P
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Hmm ok then, time will tell! I'll leave the troll alone this time!
Go Tigers! Kick some Cats bum!
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Hmm ok then, time will tell! I'll leave the troll alone this time!
Go Tigers! Kick some Cats bum!
Were playing Freo? lol
I reckon its 50/50 to Jroo. massive game 5th vs 6th. Ill be there screaming my lungs out and singing the song loud and proud if we get up
Quote from: quinny88 on July 16, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Hmm ok then, time will tell! I'll leave the troll alone this time!
Go Tigers! Kick some Cats bum!
Were playing Freo? lol
Finals man!
Quote from: quinny88 on July 16, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Hmm ok then, time will tell! I'll leave the troll alone this time!
Go Tigers! Kick some Cats bum!
Were playing Freo? lol
Think teabs said that because Teejay is a Cats supporter. :P
I'd love that though (no offense Teejay) as my Uncle is a Cats fan and I'd love to stick it to him. ;D
Quote from: NigeyS on July 16, 2013, 10:00:54 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 16, 2013, 09:50:40 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 16, 2013, 09:49:31 PM
Quote from: Toga on July 16, 2013, 09:40:09 PM
Come on tbagger, Teej didn't do anything wrong here! ;)
Hmm ok then, time will tell! I'll leave the troll alone this time!
Go Tigers! Kick some Cats bum!
Were playing Freo? lol
Think teabs said that because Teejay is a Cats supporter. :P
I'd love that though (no offense Teejay) as my Uncle is a Cats fan and I'd love to stick it to him. ;D
haha fair enough ! Dont like our chances there though. Ill be happy just to make the finals. Anything after that is a massive bonus
My bet. Richmond is a fantastic team & they will soon be a top tier club in the coming years and should easily make finals this season. With that being said if I had to bet money I'd say Freo :-\ Freo are a potential top 4 team and Richmond aren't at the same level as them. The fact Richmond only lost by 1 at Freo doesn't mean much, it's pretty much like stating the game will be an exact replica of the last but Richmond will score an additional goal because it's at the G, the same extraneous variables that delivered the last result won't occur again.
My bet is locked on Freo so I'm leaving it at that. But I still wouldn't be surprised if the Tigers won :) I'm just stating subjectively (and partially objectively) who the safe bet is :)
I'd measure the stakes at Richmond 45-55 Dockers
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 16, 2013, 10:03:54 PM
My bet. Richmond is a fantastic team & they will soon be a top tier club in the coming years and should easily make finals this season. With that being said if I had to bet money I'd say Freo :-\ Freo are a potential top 4 team and Richmond aren't at the same level as them. The fact Richmond only lost by 1 at Freo doesn't mean much, it's pretty much like stating the game will be an exact replica of the last but Richmond will score an additional goal because it's at the G, the same extraneous variables that delivered the last result won't occur again.
My bet is locked on Freo so I'm leaving it at that. But I still wouldn't be surprised if the Tigers won :) I'm just stating subjectively (and partially objectively) who the safe bet is :)
I'd measure the stakes at Richmond 45-55 Dockers
The point I was making when saying "we only lost to them by a point last time" was not to say that therefore means we are only a 1 point worse team than them. I understand footy isnt that black and white but my point was to Nails who was saying we were no hope and would get smashed so I was saying how can that be your conclusion when we ran them to 1 point at Subiaco earlier in the season? Its a closer game that he seems to think it is as the odds suggest, it could go eaither way. My tip is with the Tiges ;) respect that most people would back Freo though
Quote from: quinny88 on July 16, 2013, 10:10:44 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 16, 2013, 10:03:54 PM
My bet. Richmond is a fantastic team & they will soon be a top tier club in the coming years and should easily make finals this season. With that being said if I had to bet money I'd say Freo :-\ Freo are a potential top 4 team and Richmond aren't at the same level as them. The fact Richmond only lost by 1 at Freo doesn't mean much, it's pretty much like stating the game will be an exact replica of the last but Richmond will score an additional goal because it's at the G, the same extraneous variables that delivered the last result won't occur again.
My bet is locked on Freo so I'm leaving it at that. But I still wouldn't be surprised if the Tigers won :) I'm just stating subjectively (and partially objectively) who the safe bet is :)
I'd measure the stakes at Richmond 45-55 Dockers
The point I was making when saying "we only lost to them by a point last time" was not to say that therefore means we are only a 1 point worse team than them. I understand footy isnt that black and white but my point was to Nails who was saying we were no hope and would get smashed so I was saying how can that be your conclusion when we ran them to 1 point at Subiaco earlier in the season? Its a closer game that he seems to think it is as the odds suggest, it could go eaither way. My tip is with the Tiges ;) respect that most people would back Freo though
haha I was just clarifying :) But you're completely right mate, I think it is going to be a very close game. Freo will be playing hard because they are wanting a top 4 spot conversely Richmond will be just as if not more competitive because they will be fighting for the 8 :) Richmond will also have the home game advantage as a vast majority of the crowd will be trying to get them over the line :) It is going to be a really good match and at the least if a flogging did occur it would be a result of a 3rd or 4th qtr burst by one of the teams :)
The bookies have Richmond the favourite at the moment. Not sure why this is the case seeing as our form line is much better than Richmonds. Apart from the Geelong game in round 14 we havent lost since round 4. A lot of those wins have been without our best side on the park. That is the same for this weekend with Pav (susp) and Balla (injury) out of the lineup
Crozier should come in for Balla
Hannath/Taberner should come in for Pav (could be Faulks and Silvagni goes up forward)
In short, a like for like player comes in to play a role. We have been doing that all season and 1 more game shouldnt be a problem.
That being said - I got my money on Freo at $1.92
Fremantle has only lost to top 4 teams so far this year (Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn). As the ladder stands at least.
Richmond has only beaten 1 top 8 team so far this year (Port Adelaide, 8th). As the ladder stands at least.
I'd say Freo are a 70-80% chance to win. They're a class above, but there's no shame in that.
As for Nails saying they will win by 50+, the only team Fremantle has beaten by 50+ this year is Melbourne. Their game style doesn't really allow for the thrashing of teams.
Quote from: Sid on July 17, 2013, 05:24:34 PM
Fremantle has only lost to top 4 teams so far this year (Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn). As the ladder stands at least.
Richmond has only beaten 1 top 8 team so far this year (Port Adelaide, 8th). As the ladder stands at least.
I'd say Freo are a 70-80% chance to win. They're a class above, but there's no shame in that.
As for Nails saying they will win by 50+, the only team Fremantle has beaten by 50+ this year is Melbourne. Their game style doesn't really allow for the thrashing of teams.
+1 completely agree
Fremantle usually have a set of tacklers that all go for the ball when it is with the opposition and restrict the opponent's options when they have possession. A lot of people criticize their premiership chances because of their style of play but all you have to do is refer them to the Sydney Swan's 2012 season in which they played similar football and killed it :)
I really want the dockers to win it this year but so far I'm betting on the Cats
Only the one change
In: houli
Out: Aaron Edwards.
No tuck again? I woulda thought this would be his kind of game
Quote from: quinny88 on July 19, 2013, 11:21:24 PM
Only the one change
In: houli
Out: Aaron Edwards.
No tuck again? I woulda thought this would be his kind of game
Biscuits retained his place and Bach is back, happy days! ;D
Haha but seriously, wouldn't have minded Tucky back.
Heard on Channel 7 after the game tonight that sandi isn't playing either. That's a massive bonus
Quote from: quinny88 on July 20, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
Heard on Channel 7 after the game tonight that sandi isn't playing either. That's a massive bonus
Didn't even fly over iirc.
Bump. ;D
Quote from: Nails on July 16, 2013, 02:18:43 PM
Freo will beat you lot by 50 odd. Not even close.
Good one boofhead.
Very happy with that win! Go you Tiges!!
#gotlucky
I honestly thought freo would still pull it out, I really think sandi out tipped them over the edge.
Lets here the excuses roll out! Well done tigers!
I wish my team could play Freo with their entire spine missing.
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 03:59:41 PM
I wish my team could play Freo with their entire spine missing.
Maybe one day. :P
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 03:59:41 PM
I wish my team could play Freo with their entire spine missing.
Wish I could come up with every excuse under the sun for making a showerty call with no substance to it.
Look Nails, respect you as a guy and you obviously know your footy but come on man, stupid call. Yes Freo was missing their spine, and yes thats why I was confident we could stick it to them...
Anyways let's not let all those in denial ruin that win for us, we played very well! Quality coaching from Dimma IMO, really did his homework.
Rance was fantastic, 7 intercept marks and 16 marks all up! Cotchin regaining confidence, lets hope he steamrolls home this season like he did last season! And some clutch goals from Jroo, good man! 8)
On another note HOW MANY SHOTS DID DUSTY MISS!?!?!?! :o
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 03:59:41 PM
I wish my team could play Freo with their entire spine missing.
Thought they would win by 50 anyway nails? Good judge of footy you are mate ::) no idea
Quote from: Toga on July 21, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
Anyways let's not let all those in denial ruin that win for us, we played very well! Quality coaching from Dimma IMO, really did his homework.
Rance was fantastic, 7 intercept marks and 16 marks all up! Cotchin regaining confidence, lets hope he steamrolls home this season like he did last season! And some clutch goals from Jroo, good man! 8)
On another note HOW MANY SHOTS DID DUSTY MISS!?!?!?! :o
Really wish I could have watched it, from what I know the lads did a great job. :( 8)
I have a great idea tyvm Quinny.
Coming 2nd overall in afl.com.au's tipping.
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
I have a great idea tyvm Quinny.
Coming 2nd overall in afl.com.au's tipping.
Pls stop I can't tell if you're the best internet troll ever or just really stupid
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 21, 2013, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
I have a great idea tyvm Quinny.
Coming 2nd overall in afl.com.au's tipping.
Pls stop I can't tell if you're the best internet troll ever or just really stupid
I think he just enjoys rustling jimmies, but I can't be certain.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 21, 2013, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
I have a great idea tyvm Quinny.
Coming 2nd overall in afl.com.au's tipping.
Pls stop I can't tell if you're the best internet troll ever or just really stupid
Lol maybe you shoulda tipped the tigers and you would be first ;D
Quote from: quinny88 on July 21, 2013, 04:17:00 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on July 21, 2013, 04:15:15 PM
Quote from: Nails on July 21, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
I have a great idea tyvm Quinny.
Coming 2nd overall in afl.com.au's tipping.
Pls stop I can't tell if you're the best internet troll ever or just really stupid
Lol maybe you shoulda tipped the tigers and you would be first ;D
Who says I didn't? ;)
Great win by the tigers :) I thought after the GCS game they were in poor form, but now it seems I should be more concerned with the form of my own team (Port Adelaide).
Looks like Cotchin is fit and firing again :) Happy I've held him in my dream team all season :) Nice to see him pay me back over the last three weeks ;D Another big step towards Richmond's future as a top 4 team if you ask me ;)
Overall a great win. The scoring was low for the first 3 quarters and I though Freo would come back but the tiger's didn't just hold them off, they managed to overrun them in the final term :)
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
Same goes for Essendon if they make top 4.
Good win by the Tigers today, look forward to seeing them play Collingwood week 1 of finals (please!).
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 21, 2013, 04:18:24 PM
Great win by the tigers :) I thought after the GCS game they were in poor form, but now it seems I should be more concerned with the form of my own team (Port Adelaide).)
I think the GCS game couldn't be used to measure Richmond's form, or any team's form for that matter. Terrible footy conditions with blustering winds, greasy conditions, it was always gonna be a scrappy affair and be closer than it should have been... Think most games up north end like that, Brisbane vs Melbourne last night in Darwin was closer than it should've been as well TBH.
Those sold home games up north should be taken with a grain of salt IMO.
@Sid good question! Hard to say really, it kind of depends who they draw in finals. Same with Richmond; really hoping we can scrape into 5th spot (I know its unlikely ATM) but that'd see us draw Carlton or Port who I am more confident we can beat than a Collingwood or Freo...
Quote from: Sid on July 21, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
Same goes for Essendon if they make top 4.
Good win by the Tigers today, look forward to seeing them play Collingwood week 1 of finals (please!).
I think Richmond would beat Collingwood. I expect Collingwood to be with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda next year. Their time is over :)
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 21, 2013, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: Sid on July 21, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
Same goes for Essendon if they make top 4.
Good win by the Tigers today, look forward to seeing them play Collingwood week 1 of finals (please!).
I think Richmond would beat Collingwood. I expect Collingwood to be with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda next year. Their time is over :)
Collingwood rebuilding as of next year? Surely not. They still have Swan, Beams, Pendles, Ball. Then they have Cloke up forward. Their defense is pretty solid with guy like Maxy, Harry O etc and their younger guys like Josh Thomas, Jarryd Blair, Jamie Elliott and Paul Seedsman look the goods.
That said, I think the Tigers would be in with a genuine shot of beating the Pies come finals if we drew them with wherever we finished on the ladder.
Quote from: powersuperkents on July 21, 2013, 04:43:43 PM
Quote from: Sid on July 21, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
Same goes for Essendon if they make top 4.
Good win by the Tigers today, look forward to seeing them play Collingwood week 1 of finals (please!).
I think Richmond would beat Collingwood. I expect Collingwood to be with the Western Bulldogs and St Kilda next year. Their time is over :)
Wow, really?
I still think Collingwood has one of the best lists in the competition, reckon they could make a prelim this year and should be back in the top 4 next year.
Yeah I agree Sid C'wood are still a top side IMO and are still young enough to avoid a saints-like slide...
Still definitely would prefer facing off against a Port or Carlton in finals, not sure we are up to the 'Pies standard yet. :-X
Really? Do you think their new players are good? I always was under the impression that Elliot, Thomas, Seedman, Dwyer etc would be discarded like a used condom (i.e. Liam Anthony, Gyberts etc.) in the years to come hahaha :) I haven't really seen them and I guess it's partly because the matching haircuts really piss me off (why can't they each have their own look, I can barely tell them apart)
Pendles still in my opinion has 5 or so years left in him but I think they will be relying almost solely on Beams in the future. Sidebottom good but cannot keep up form, I think Cloke's accuracy is horrible in front of goals and in actual footy I don't really see Swan as a threat. When Pendles has the ball you know it's 90% likely a goal will be set up no matter where he is on the ground, when Swan has the ball it'll be more frequent, but it is usually a completely useless disposal and sometimes it's even to the opposition (haha did you see Harbrow's goal in Q1 ;) )
Overall imo they still have an abundance of talent in Beams, Pendles, Shaw etc. but I think the tigers have a much better prospective list ;) Dusty, Cotchin, Lids, Jroo, Ellis, the reformed Vickery, Foley, Conca, King, Grigg, Houli, Rance etc. looks much more enticing. Even Morris due to the amount of effort he puts in deserves a mention, this is a team where Robin Nahas doesn't even get a game :P and Grigg and Tuck struggle to. Also the Petterd, Chaplin & Knights (if he actually starts playing) additions make it that tiny bit more convincing :)
Yeah, I reckon that Elliot, Thomas, Sidebottom, Broomehead and (although I haven't seen as much of him, so not as sure) Bennedy will/can all be A graders I think. If 2 of them make it to add to Beams, Pendlebury, D Thomas (I think they'll retain him) that will make 5 A grade midfielders, easily rivalling other top teams at the moment.
On top of that they have pretty good KPP stocks, and Witts/Grundy will be a good combination by the time Jolly is ready to leave.
Just my opinion of course, can see it going the other way as well and definitely understand why you think that, just think this is more likely (as much as it pains me to say!).
Collingwood are still and will continue to be a very good side. Remember this year they are yet to have had their best 22 playing at any one time, do that, and i think they are still a genuine premiership threat for 2013.
Congrats Richmond for making finals, don't think it's possible to come ninth now. (Wouldn't count you out of still making that happen though :P) Chris Newman will finally get to play a final too!
Quote from: Sid on July 21, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
I think you are underestimating Fremantle and what they've achieved so far this year given the injuries to such key players.
We drew with Sydney (SCG) after having kicked inaccurately, a man down on the bench (Walters), no key forward in Pav, no Hill and Zac Clarke as the No. 1 ruckman in his first game for the season.
Geelong turned it on against us at Skilled Stadium, but again we were without Pavlich, Sandilands, Mundy and Barlow, 4 of our top 5 players.
We were outclassed by Hawthorn (Aurora) in the 1Q but managed to stick with them for the rest of the game without Pavlich and Sandilands.
We would of beaten Essendon had McPharlin not been knocked out in the opening minute and Mayne hadn't hit the post.
As for Richmond (MCG), they played some good footy. But again there was no Pavlich, Sandilands, McPharlin, Ballantyne and Suban.
I'm not trying to say that Fremantle are the only team to have been hit by injuries, but I do think their depth has been tested the most by losing players so vitally important to the team, plus their 2nd in line players such as Griffin and Bradley.
Come finals, when we get our best 22 on the park, look out.
Collingwood and freo will be fine. Freo I rate very highly and understand that we were lucky to get them at a time when they had such a large number of key players out.
The pies I rate very highly. I still think their midfield is the best in the comp. they have been very unlucky with injuries. Next year they will have a full pre season out of ball, beams, daisy. Toovey to come back into their defence. They will push for top 4 again next season
Quote from: Clyde Frog on July 23, 2013, 12:27:19 AM
Quote from: Sid on July 21, 2013, 04:20:13 PM
Here's an interesting question - How much damage can Fremantle (and Essendon actually) realistically do in September?
So far they have failed to beat Sydney, Hawthorn, Geelong and Essendon and have just lost to Richmond as well.
With their run home they should make top 4, but will they get bundled out in straight sets?
I think you are underestimating Fremantle and what they've achieved so far this year given the injuries to such key players.
We drew with Sydney (SCG) after having kicked inaccurately, a man down on the bench (Walters), no key forward in Pav, no Hill and Zac Clarke as the No. 1 ruckman in his first game for the season.
Geelong turned it on against us at Skilled Stadium, but again we were without Pavlich, Sandilands, Mundy and Barlow, 4 of our top 5 players.
We were outclassed by Hawthorn (Aurora) in the 1Q but managed to stick with them for the rest of the game without Pavlich and Sandilands.
We would of beaten Essendon had McPharlin not been knocked out in the opening minute and Mayne hadn't hit the post.
As for Richmond (MCG), they played some good footy. But again there was no Pavlich, Sandilands, McPharlin, Ballantyne and Suban.
I'm not trying to say that Fremantle are the only team to have been hit by injuries, but I do think their depth has been tested the most by losing players so vitally important to the team, plus their 2nd in line players such as Griffin and Bradley.
Come finals, when we get our best 22 on the park, look out.
So after struggling with injuries all season you'll just magically get your best 22 back for finals? :-X
Look, I think Freo is a very good side, they are top 4 quality and I fully expect them to finish top 4. We can make all the excuses we want but the fact is this side is 1-5 against the teams sitting around them on the ladder. That kind of one-sidedness is fairly difficult to ignore.
Essendon has the same issue, they've been comprehensively beaten by other challengers.
To be honest I don't think Fremantle can continue to hide behind the excuse that they have more injuries than other top sides when looking at it its just not really true.
Hawks: Consistently missing Franklin, Birchall, Ellis, Shiels and Suckling
Geelong have some various midfield depth injuries
Collingwood are missing Thomas, Toovey, Brown, Fasolo, Jolly
Sydney missing Goodes, LRT, Shaw, Mumford (in/out), Jetta, Reid, Johnson, Rohan
I mean Mcpharlin is class and Ballyntine as well but neither Pavlich nor Sandi are anything special these days.
pavlich came second in the coleman last year... I wouldn't say nothing special...
Quote from: Ziplock on July 23, 2013, 11:19:59 PM
pavlich came second in the coleman last year... I wouldn't say nothing special...
My bad I'm paying a lot less attention being in year 12 but I remember Pavlich being AA worthy.
Fremantle are certainly a good side, but the point I'm trying to get across is their relative depth is low.
How does everyone think we will go against Sydney this weekend? We have matched up well with them in recent times and beat them the last 2 times we played them but the SCG is a whole new ball park.
Personally don't think we can beat them on their home deck but I won't be fussed as long as we aren't belted. Think we are a much better shot at knocking off the Hawks again the following week
Well, I think we're a chance, just not a very good one. However, it's definitely possible.
Taken up tabs' DP bet so I hope we win. :P
Yeah we're a chance but I'm not expecting a win. Last week I was, but this week it's going to be an even bigger challenge.
Taught a bit of a footy lesson against the Swannies. It pretty much went the exact way I thought it would to be honest.
The Hawks is a different story though. We play well at the G, we play well against Hawthorn and it is a massive game for us.
Anyone think we can get up?
Tigers didn't play too badly and were in it for 3/4 of the match, White and Martin were pretty impressive.
That said Cotchin, maric, Newman and Delidio didn't really star very much so I think you're a decent chance against hawthornif they can fire
Think a lot might come down to injuries - the list is starting to grow... :(
Vickery & Arnot out, McGuane & Nahas in are two obvious changes for me.
A change I wouldn't mind seeing is Deledio being shifted to half-back, Titch into the middle, and seeing Matty McDonough given a run - has been in great form for Coburg, has just about earnt his run in the seniors IMO.
Out goes Arnot, TV, Petterd and In comes McGun, Nahas and Astbury. We need 3 key defenders for the Hawk forwards.
Going to be very tough, the Hawks are in good form.
Congrats on the fantastic win :) Only team to beat the Hawks besides Geelong this year :)
There has been a large Unidentified Flying Object sighted leaving Punt Road. THE LID.
Very good win by Richmond. I just love Trent Cotchin <3
:D
YELLOW AND BLACK!
What a win! Finals here we come
2 wins from the 3 games, I'll take it :P
Better change ya pic jroo coz buddy did bugger all today! Rancey tore him a new one
Quote from: quinny88 on August 03, 2013, 08:16:02 PM
Better change ya pic jroo coz buddy did bugger all today! Rancey tore him a new one
Haha I was actually just about to. Rancey is a GUN 8)
I was very impressed with our backline last week. For Buddy, Roughy, Cyril and Bruest to kick only one goal is simply amazing.
Rance has been super this year and I think he should be in the 40 man All-Aus squad, while Steven Morris would also be in contention. Very underrated, he's been great down back and he's rearle been beaten. Chappy was also good, while I liked Astbury, he showed a lot and look good down back. Vlastuin is a beauty, he's so composed for a youngster. Our midfield dominated yesterday and it's great to see Cotch back to his best.
Looking forward to taking on the Lions on next week. They can beat any team when they're on as shown by beating Geelong and Essendon.
The only change I would do is Ty Vickery for the Big O. Push up King may also come in, but I'm not sure who would come out of the side. Homely Dylan Grimes is back soon, too.
Buddy Franklin, Roughead and Cyrils combined total of 1 goal is the lowest combined total they have ever scored in their 89 games they've played together.
Add that to Astbury keeping Gunston goaless and Bruest no goals either and suddenly the best forward line in the comp combined for 1 goal.
Jroo you don't happen to be on bigfooty do you?
Quote from: TheAnt on August 04, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Buddy Franklin, Roughead and Cyrils combined total of 1 goal is the lowest combined total they have ever scored in their 89 games they've played together.
Add that to Astbury keeping Gunston goaless and Bruest no goals either and suddenly the best forward line in the comp combined for 1 goal.
Jroo you don't happen to be on bigfooty do you?
Yep, don't post a lot. I'm Conca Truck. I like to read through the Tiger board.
I also found the Newman GIF on it 8)
You're on there too, yeah? I saw someone called TheAnt the other day and thought it may be you.
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2013, 01:54:48 PM
Quote from: TheAnt on August 04, 2013, 01:44:33 PM
Buddy Franklin, Roughead and Cyrils combined total of 1 goal is the lowest combined total they have ever scored in their 89 games they've played together.
Add that to Astbury keeping Gunston goaless and Bruest no goals either and suddenly the best forward line in the comp combined for 1 goal.
Jroo you don't happen to be on bigfooty do you?
Yep, don't post a lot. I'm Conca Truck. I like to read through the Tiger board.
I also found the Newman GIF on it 8)
You're on there too, yeah? I saw someone called TheAnt the other day and thought it may be you.
Correct.
We will have to improve 100% on last night to beat you.
Quote from: Ringo on August 04, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
We will have to improve 100% on last night to beat you.
If it was at the Gabba i'd be calling danger game.
Great performance by you guys against the hawks BUTTTT
Personally you played alot better against us last year
Quote from: TheAnt on August 04, 2013, 02:42:42 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 04, 2013, 02:20:47 PM
We will have to improve 100% on last night to beat you.
If it was at the Gabba i'd be calling danger game.
To be fair, we have a decent record at the Gabba in recent times. We really should be beating the Lions though. They can be a tough team, but on current form we should win comfortably.
I reckon Dimma should give McBean a run over the Big O against the Lions, kicked 6 for Coburg on the weekend, and hopefully Tuck can play the full game, racked it up in the last quarter on Saturday.
Quote from: nickstiges on August 05, 2013, 05:22:11 PM
I reckon Dimma should give McBean a run over the Big O against the Lions, kicked 6 for Coburg on the weekend, and hopefully Tuck can play the full game, racked it up in the last quarter on Saturday.
Nah I'd put Vickery back in first.
If Vickery is fit then obiviously he has to come back in before McBean.
Rance has been terrible.....
He has been a witchs hat for all of the big forwards. Buddy out of form, cyril back from injury. Rance had a good game but you guys are kidding yourself if you think he has been like this all season
Quote from: Andy3737 on August 06, 2013, 07:01:41 AM
Rance has been terrible.....
He has been a witchs hat for all of the big forwards. Buddy out of form, cyril back from injury. Rance had a good game but you guys are kidding yourself if you think he has been like this all season
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-02/the-frugal-suspects
2nd for intercept marks, 2nd for spoils in defense, 4th for tackles in defense... You're kidding yourself if you don't think he has been great this season.
The only game he was "terrible" was against Collingwood when Cloke towelled him up. Apart from that, he's been very good in my opinion.
Andy.. Another White Goodman Richmond hater. Get used to it boys, a successful Richmond is a hated Richmond 8)
Buddy out of form was he? Wow I coulda sworn he kicked 8 just last weekend against a top 4 side on Carlisle who is fancied as an all Australian chance.
Rance has been fantastic all year. The only player that has got the better of him was cloke and all of that damage was done in one quater with no one giving him any support. Rance would be right in AA selectors minds right now, don't worry about that!
Quote from: quinny88 on August 06, 2013, 12:00:16 PM
Andy.. Another White Goodman Richmond hater. Get used to it boys, a successful Richmond is a hated Richmond 8)
Buddy out of form was he? Wow I coulda sworn he kicked 8 just last weekend against a top 4 side on Carlisle who is fancied as an all Australian chance.
Rance has been fantastic all year. The only player that has got the better of him was cloke and all of that damage was done in one quater with no one giving him any support. Rance would be right in AA selectors minds right now, don't worry about that!
You guys do seem to attract a lot of haters ???
Rance is certainly an underrated defender it seems
Just saw a bunch of the boys including Axel and Newy walking back to Punt Rd while I passed on the train. The train went by too quockly for me to take a pic and check the rest of the lads faces.
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 06, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 06, 2013, 12:00:16 PM
Andy.. Another White Goodman Richmond hater. Get used to it boys, a successful Richmond is a hated Richmond 8)
Buddy out of form was he? Wow I coulda sworn he kicked 8 just last weekend against a top 4 side on Carlisle who is fancied as an all Australian chance.
Rance has been fantastic all year. The only player that has got the better of him was cloke and all of that damage was done in one quater with no one giving him any support. Rance would be right in AA selectors minds right now, don't worry about that!
You guys do seem to attract a lot of haters ???
Big club, passionate supporters. The same reason Collingwood, Essendon and Carlton are hated lol
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on August 06, 2013, 12:38:53 PM
Rance is certainly an underrated defender it seems
Absolutely! He cops a bit of flack for doing clanger or brain fade but he always gives 110% and more often than not does a job on the opposing key forward
Hello Tigers.
Hello Mr Nails ;)
Ready for the big game this weekend? :P
Lions by 10 goals.
hello Tigers as well - Will be a big game for us as if we win we can talk about sneaking up the ladder although Port made a little hard with their win last week. You guys are travelling really well and there will be some interesting match ups.
Who will Raines go to - Cotch, Lids or Dusty. Who will match up on Rich and Rocky, will Hanley be tagged given his form atm. Maguire or Patful will take Jack.
2 Young teams on the rise but I think you are in front of us but if you are a little off and we play to our full potential we can cause the upset. I am ready for the big game on the weekend.
I think:
Raines --> Deledio
Jackson --> Rich
Cotchin vs Redden, Dusty vs Rockliff
White/Newman --> Hanley
Big Tyrone is back in and Orren gets omitted. Also, worth noting that Matty McDonough is in the emergencies. 8)
Did a different team run out after half time today? :o
Had the game won at quater time I know but it would be nice to thump a side every now and then rather than taking our foot off the gas when we think we have it won.
On the bright side that's 13 wins :) finals a certainty!
Umpiring assisted you greatly though.
Quote from: Ringo on August 11, 2013, 03:10:56 PM
Umpiring assisted you greatly though.
There have been bad umpiring decisions for over 100 years. Every club feel like they are always getting the rough end of the stick . I didnt think the umpiring had any bearing on the result. Brisbane only showing up half way through the game did though
Know the general consensus Quinny but when you are consistently on the wrong end you start to really watch the frees. I counted at least 5 that Berger should have had given if what was being paid to Maric to be consistent. Agreed we only turned up after half time but when Richmond got 4 direct goals from frees compared to Brisbanes none you can make the statement I did. Not saying it cost us the game only Richmond was on the right end of the umpiring decisions.
In saying this Richmond have had a great season and your ball movement speed is excellent and you deserve to be in finals. maybe will not win this year but will give it a shake over the next 2 years.
Fellas! 8)
Ready for Saturday?
Quote from: vinny on August 15, 2013, 05:54:52 PM
Fellas! 8)
Ready for Saturday?
You're going down. :P
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: vinny on August 15, 2013, 05:54:52 PM
Fellas! 8)
Ready for Saturday?
You're going down. :P
We have players going down weekly. I am sure we will struggle against you guys. Your'e in super form and deserve to be where you are at. Us on the other hand, have been shocking and now Judd, Carrazzo and Watson out for the season. It's been a disaster and I can see a rebuild coming sadly.
But no excuses are allowed. Game on :)
Quote from: vinny on August 15, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on August 15, 2013, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: vinny on August 15, 2013, 05:54:52 PM
Fellas! 8)
Ready for Saturday?
You're going down. :P
We have players going down weekly. I am sure we will struggle against you guys. Your'e in super form and deserve to be where you are at. Us on the other hand, have been shocking and now Judd, Carrazzo and Watson out for the season. It's been a disaster and I can see a rebuild coming sadly.
But no excuses are allowed. Game on :)
I love our games against Carlton, especially of late (this season namely ;) :P). Your 'dramatic list changes' might be interesting.
I reckon it will be a good game, usually is when we play.
Havent been this confident against Carlton for 5 years!
Quote from: quinny88 on August 15, 2013, 10:36:52 PM
Havent been this confident against Carlton for 5 years!
Don't think I've ever been, even when they were at the bottom they would find ways to beat us.
Carn Blues ! :)
...
We were awesome in the first then Carlton destroyed us in the last three.
We were unlucky, a lot of misses in the last.
Up the Blues!
Goooo Blueeeeees. Good performance today from the boys!
Good game lads. :)
That's it no more support for Richmond from me >:( If they did there flowering job as a top 4 candidate they would have ended Carlton's finals hope then and there. Next week I have to hope that either Port beats Freo at Patersons -definitely not going to happen- or that Essendon beats Carlton -also not going to happen because the bombers are a showerheap- so I think it's going to come down to r23 and I'm just relieved it's at AAMI so there is still some chance. Disappointed even the Bulldogs could beat Carlton. I'm abroad so I didn't watch the game and I've only just viewed the scores but I now have lost a lot of faith in the Tigers & Bombers whilst also gaining a lot of faith in the Pies again. I still can't believe that Richmond lost, in every aspect of the game they are theoretically better than the Blues (also worried because of the old Port Adelaide's recent record against Carlton is not good)
Quote from: Nails on August 17, 2013, 07:13:48 PM
Up the Blues!
Where does your underlying hate for Richmond come from Nails? :o
Poor game from Richmond today. I got the sense that they have gone into "prepare for finals" mode a bit prematurely. Luckily have GWS next week so we should stay in 5th. On a side note. Carltons finals hopes are alive now. They play Essendon and Port play Freo so all things going to plan it will be Port vs Carlton for a spot in the 8 round 23
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 18, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
That's it no more support for Richmond from me >:( If they did there flowering job as a top 4 candidate they would have ended Carlton's finals hope then and there. Next week I have to hope that either Port beats Freo at Patersons -definitely not going to happen- or that Essendon beats Carlton -also not going to happen because the bombers are a showerheap- so I think it's going to come down to r23 and I'm just relieved it's at AAMI so there is still some chance. Disappointed even the Bulldogs could beat Carlton. I'm abroad so I didn't watch the game and I've only just viewed the scores but I now have lost a lot of faith in the Tigers & Bombers whilst also gaining a lot of faith in the Pies again. I still can't believe that Richmond lost, in every aspect of the game they are theoretically better than the Blues (also worried because of the old Port Adelaide's recent record against Carlton is not good)
Carlton arent exactly a bad side? I thought we should have won but wasnt surprised that we didnt at all. We beat Hawthorn and Freo recently so the faith is there that we can beat the best. This game meant nothing to us really and it showed. Credit to Carlton though they played really well. If Port need to rely on other teams winning games for them then they dont deserve to play finals in the first place. If they are good enough they will make it
I hate Essendon but if they beat Carlton I will love them for eternity, I think since r23 is at AAMI it will all depend on how much Port lose to the Dockers by. It will be a guaranteed close match and I'm hoping it ends like the showdown
Quote from: quinny88 on August 18, 2013, 12:38:53 AM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 18, 2013, 12:34:24 AM
That's it no more support for Richmond from me >:( If they did there flowering job as a top 4 candidate they would have ended Carlton's finals hope then and there. Next week I have to hope that either Port beats Freo at Patersons -definitely not going to happen- or that Essendon beats Carlton -also not going to happen because the bombers are a showerheap- so I think it's going to come down to r23 and I'm just relieved it's at AAMI so there is still some chance. Disappointed even the Bulldogs could beat Carlton. I'm abroad so I didn't watch the game and I've only just viewed the scores but I now have lost a lot of faith in the Tigers & Bombers whilst also gaining a lot of faith in the Pies again. I still can't believe that Richmond lost, in every aspect of the game they are theoretically better than the Blues (also worried because of the old Port Adelaide's recent record against Carlton is not good)
Carlton arent exactly a bad side? I thought we should have won but wasnt surprised that we didnt at all. We beat Hawthorn and Freo recently so the faith is there that we can beat the best. This game meant nothing to us really and it showed. Credit to Carlton though they played really well. If Port need to rely on other teams winning games for them then they dont deserve to play finals in the first place. If they are good enough they will make it
Carlton are a good side but inconsistent, Port Adelaide need to rely on other teams winning because the only reason they aren't securely in the 8 is because the top teams can't beat their inferiors. Port beats all the teams it should and these are the teams outside the 8. However if everything goes to plan (Geelong beating Adelaide, Essedon beating WCE etc. & Richmond beating Carlton) Port would have fairly cemented there spot. Like I said the only reason we haven't is because the top teams purposely lose games they shouldn't. We were the favourites to makes finals in the run home because of our easier draw, however our draw has been the hardest. Firstly because we were versing team desperate to make the 8 (and we managed to beat all of them), conversely teams like WCE, Carlton, NMFC & Adelaide all had difficult draws predominately against top 4 teams and teams stemming from 5-8, however because these top teams are basically flowering around it has mean't that their draw is literally the easy draw when it comes into practice. Like I said we beat top teams midway into the season when it count, we beat we the teams we should on the run home, the only reason we are in the finals is because the top teams literally give games away which should be easy win, so far the only top teams I have respect for now are Sydney, Hawthorne & Freo because they are the only teams that are not giving these games away, what's the point of playing hard and competing for the spot against lower tier teams when the top teams just flower it up? It's seriously pissing me off, if you're in the top 8 you should be beating everyone who isn't
Mate seriously I have never read more garbage in my life :o..
Firstly, footy doesnt have a written script where each team beats who they are better than and looses to those they arent. Anyone can knock off anyone on their day.
Secondly, Port have had one of the easiest fixtures in the league this year and i would rather play teams outside of the top 4 anyday!
Port will make the 8 if they are good enough, simple as that. You cant blame other teams for your own team not playing finals :o
The only teams you respect now are Hawthorn, Freo and Sydney?? Newsflash. Sydney lost to Collingwood last week, a game they should have won at home. Hawthorn lost to Richmond 2 weeks ago, Freo lost to Richmond 3 weeks ago. No team is a sure bet. Thats the great thing about footy
Quote from: quinny88 on August 18, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
Mate seriously I have never read more garbage in my life :o..
Firstly, footy doesnt have a written script where each team beats who they are better than and looses to those they arent. Anyone can knock off anyone on their day.
Secondly, Port have had one of the easiest fixtures in the league this year and i would rather play teams outside of the top 4 anyday!
Port will make the 8 if they are good enough, simple as that. You cant blame other teams for your own team not playing finals :o
The only teams you respect now are Hawthorn, Freo and Sydney?? Newsflash. Sydney lost to Collingwood last week, a game they should have won at home. Hawthorn lost to Richmond 2 weeks ago, Freo lost to Richmond 3 weeks ago. No team is a sure bet. Thats the great thing about footy
It is easier playing top 4 teams.. The teams fighting for a spot in the 8 is much harder competition than teams that are resting for finals (only Freo, Sydney & Hawthorne are continuing to play rather than rest in preparation) and no Richmond's draw was so much easier, PAFC beat top teams when the teams were actually at the top of their game, Richmond & Carlton feed on the carcasses of teams once they have started final series resting. (Got to agree with Nails there..(nothing against Richmond but overall your draw was easier and you played the harder teams on more convenient occasions-predominately when they were maimed by injury or preparing for finals (the Freo victory was a triumphant one though and I even had to tip my hat to them, the Hawks victory was good but I have incredibly strong doubts they could pull that off any other time besides the relaxing period for the minors)
Collingwood are still a good team last time I looked and at the time they were still in contest for a top 4 spot so there's no really a disappointment for Sydney's loss whatsoever, Richmond were in the exact same position as well (the point of the game was to cement their spot in the finals & the same goes for the Freo match).
All I'm saying is I was disappointed, I had Richmond pinned for a semi final chance and that loss pretty much made me lose faith, like most footy spectators the circumstances that affect my team -along with my team itself- are the only things in life that get me thinking and acting irrationally (call it blind loyalty if you will) and I agree that the great thing about football is the fact it is not written but I have to disagree about your take on the run home, the 5 teams contesting for a spot in the 8 pose as much harder opposition than the team who have already locked a spot in the 8, let alone the 4 because they have nothing to worry about. Richmond were one of my finals favourites (after Port will get knocked out in the 5th v. 8th game) but now it will be Essendon if they win next week (out of faith) or Freo (if Port defeat Carlton at AAMI). I have a lot of faith in PAFC at AAMI (blue's are only a smokey favourite) but I'm afraid that if Hartlett is suspended it can pose a huge blow and I'm afraid that how the game is decided could turn my into a temporary racist (i.e. Betts, Garlett & Yarran's performances) :P PAFC is the only thing on earth that can cause me to behave or think like this
Port and Richmond have been given every opportunity to get into the 8 this year and its no fault but their own if they don't
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 18, 2013, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 18, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
Mate seriously I have never read more garbage in my life :o..
Firstly, footy doesnt have a written script where each team beats who they are better than and looses to those they arent. Anyone can knock off anyone on their day.
Secondly, Port have had one of the easiest fixtures in the league this year and i would rather play teams outside of the top 4 anyday!
Port will make the 8 if they are good enough, simple as that. You cant blame other teams for your own team not playing finals :o
The only teams you respect now are Hawthorn, Freo and Sydney?? Newsflash. Sydney lost to Collingwood last week, a game they should have won at home. Hawthorn lost to Richmond 2 weeks ago, Freo lost to Richmond 3 weeks ago. No team is a sure bet. Thats the great thing about footy
It is easier playing top 4 teams.. The teams fighting for a spot in the 8 is much harder competition than teams that are resting for finals (only Freo, Sydney & Hawthorne are continuing to play rather than rest in preparation) and no Richmond's draw was so much easier, PAFC beat top teams when the teams were actually at the top of their game, Richmond & Carlton feed on the carcasses of teams once they have started final series resting. (Got to agree with Nails there..(nothing against Richmond but overall your draw was easier and you played the harder teams on more convenient occasions-predominately when they were maimed by injury or preparing for finals (the Freo victory was a triumphant one though and I even had to tip my hat to them, the Hawks victory was good but I have incredibly strong doubts they could pull that off any other time besides the relaxing period for the minors)
Collingwood are still a good team last time I looked and at the time they were still in contest for a top 4 spot so there's no really a disappointment for Sydney's loss whatsoever, Richmond were in the exact same position as well (the point of the game was to cement their spot in the finals & the same goes for the Freo match).
All I'm saying is I was disappointed, I had Richmond pinned for a semi final chance and that loss pretty much made me lose faith, like most footy spectators the circumstances that affect my team -along with my team itself- are the only things in life that get me thinking and acting irrationally (call it blind loyalty if you will) and I agree that the great thing about football is the fact it is not written but I have to disagree about your take on the run home, the 5 teams contesting for a spot in the 8 pose as much harder opposition than the team who have already locked a spot in the 8, let alone the 4 because they have nothing to worry about. Richmond were one of my finals favourites (after Port will get knocked out in the 5th v. 8th game) but now it will be Essendon if they win next week (out of faith) or Freo (if Port defeat Carlton at AAMI). I have a lot of faith in PAFC at AAMI (blue's are only a smokey favourite) but I'm afraid that if Hartlett is suspended it can pose a huge blow and I'm afraid that how the game is decided could turn my into a temporary racist (i.e. Betts, Garlett & Yarran's performances) :P PAFC is the only thing on earth that can cause me to behave or think like this
Sorry mate but your view on footy is just blatantly wrong.
The teams "fighting for 8th" are fighting for it for a reason. Because they are not as good as the top 4! the top 4 may be preparing for finals but they are still harder to beat than teams in the middle of the ladder. If you dont think that then you are delusional.
Richmond Thumped Hawthorn last year in the middle of the season.. Were they resting for finals then? :o
So going by your theory Richmond losing to Carlton shouldnt be a shock to you at all as Carlton are fighting for 8th and we are safe they are therefore harder to beat than a top 4 team right? ::)
That is just a rubbish theory, sorry
Quote from: quinny88 on August 18, 2013, 04:58:56 PM
Quote from: powersuperkents on August 18, 2013, 07:15:37 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on August 18, 2013, 01:17:46 AM
Mate seriously I have never read more garbage in my life :o..
Firstly, footy doesnt have a written script where each team beats who they are better than and looses to those they arent. Anyone can knock off anyone on their day.
Secondly, Port have had one of the easiest fixtures in the league this year and i would rather play teams outside of the top 4 anyday!
Port will make the 8 if they are good enough, simple as that. You cant blame other teams for your own team not playing finals :o
The only teams you respect now are Hawthorn, Freo and Sydney?? Newsflash. Sydney lost to Collingwood last week, a game they should have won at home. Hawthorn lost to Richmond 2 weeks ago, Freo lost to Richmond 3 weeks ago. No team is a sure bet. Thats the great thing about footy
It is easier playing top 4 teams.. The teams fighting for a spot in the 8 is much harder competition than teams that are resting for finals (only Freo, Sydney & Hawthorne are continuing to play rather than rest in preparation) and no Richmond's draw was so much easier, PAFC beat top teams when the teams were actually at the top of their game, Richmond & Carlton feed on the carcasses of teams once they have started final series resting. (Got to agree with Nails there..(nothing against Richmond but overall your draw was easier and you played the harder teams on more convenient occasions-predominately when they were maimed by injury or preparing for finals (the Freo victory was a triumphant one though and I even had to tip my hat to them, the Hawks victory was good but I have incredibly strong doubts they could pull that off any other time besides the relaxing period for the minors)
Collingwood are still a good team last time I looked and at the time they were still in contest for a top 4 spot so there's no really a disappointment for Sydney's loss whatsoever, Richmond were in the exact same position as well (the point of the game was to cement their spot in the finals & the same goes for the Freo match).
All I'm saying is I was disappointed, I had Richmond pinned for a semi final chance and that loss pretty much made me lose faith, like most footy spectators the circumstances that affect my team -along with my team itself- are the only things in life that get me thinking and acting irrationally (call it blind loyalty if you will) and I agree that the great thing about football is the fact it is not written but I have to disagree about your take on the run home, the 5 teams contesting for a spot in the 8 pose as much harder opposition than the team who have already locked a spot in the 8, let alone the 4 because they have nothing to worry about. Richmond were one of my finals favourites (after Port will get knocked out in the 5th v. 8th game) but now it will be Essendon if they win next week (out of faith) or Freo (if Port defeat Carlton at AAMI). I have a lot of faith in PAFC at AAMI (blue's are only a smokey favourite) but I'm afraid that if Hartlett is suspended it can pose a huge blow and I'm afraid that how the game is decided could turn my into a temporary racist (i.e. Betts, Garlett & Yarran's performances) :P PAFC is the only thing on earth that can cause me to behave or think like this
Sorry mate but your view on footy is just blatantly wrong.
The teams "fighting for 8th" are fighting for it for a reason. Because they are not as good as the top 4! the top 4 may be preparing for finals but they are still harder to beat than teams in the middle of the ladder. If you dont think that then you are delusional.
Richmond Thumped Hawthorn last year in the middle of the season.. Were they resting for finals then? :o
So going by your theory Richmond losing to Carlton shouldnt be a shock to you at all as Carlton are fighting for 8th and we are safe they are therefore harder to beat than a top 4 team right? ::)
That is just a rubbish theory, sorry
No going by that theory Richmond are the team that is resting... and I don't think Adelaide & Nth Melbourne would beat Geelong at any other time in the season.. The only team that is veritably falling apart is the Bombers, the rest of the secure teams are taking their foot off the throttle. I don't mind anymore more because an AFL analysis just posted this:
8. PORT ADELAIDE
48 points (12 wins, eight losses) 107.0 per cent
The run home:
Rd 22: Fremantle at Patersons Stadium
Rd 23: Carlton at AAMI Stadium
If the Power win next week:
- They will secure their first finals appearance since 2007
- They can still finish sixth and earn a home elimination final, but will be relying on Collingwood to lose its final two matches
If they lose next week:
- They will still be guaranteed a finals berth if Carlton loses to Essendon in round 22
- They will face a play-off for eighth spot against Carlton in round 23, assuming the Blues beat the Bombers on Saturday night
- They can finish ninth but still play finals if Essendon is stripped of premiership points
Predicted finish: seventh
Predicted final match-up: Collingwood v Port Adelaide, second elimination final, MCG
so I'm a bit more relaxed now