Hey Fellas!
I know it's early but I reckon it would be interesting to see who people are locking in for each line !
I'll kick it off -
B- Goddard Gibbs
M- Gaz Pendles Beams Jack Griffen
R- Goldy
F- Stevie J Naitanui
Post yours here ! :) Remember this is just a rough idea.
ZAC DAWSON would have to be one aswell. :o
BJ Gibbs
Gaz Pendles Swan Beams Griffen
Minno Goldy
Wingard Natanui
Yeah I had another thought on what I told you before mate, and I'm with you on a lot of these players.
B- Goddard, Gibbs (Although he may lose defender status)
M- Gaz, Pendles, Beams, Jack, Murphy
R- Cox
F- Nic Nat, Tex Walker, Dusty (Think he can take it to another level now)
Hepp, Gibbs, God
Gaz, Pendles, Swan, Jack, Danger
Nic Nat
Wingard, Martin
Far out, everyone's forgotten Suckers!
Quote from: stew42 on June 24, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
Far out, everyone's forgotten Suckers!
^^^^^^This. And I'm expecting Gibbs to become pure mid in SC as well.
For me it's something like this:
Def- Goddard, Suckling, Hanley
Mid- Ablett, Pendles, Beams (if under 550k)
Ruck- NicNat, Goldy
Fwd- Dusty, Rocky, Danger (think he might get dpp back)
Quote from: GoLions16 on June 24, 2013, 11:37:35 PM
Quote from: stew42 on June 24, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
Far out, everyone's forgotten Suckers!
^^^^^^This. And I'm expecting Gibbs to become pure mid in SC as well.
For me it's something like this:
Def- Goddard, Suckling, Hanley
Mid- Ablett, Pendles, Beams (if under 550k)
Ruck- NicNat, Goldy
Fwd- Dusty, Rocky, Danger (think he might get dpp back)
mhm mhm
DEF: Goddard, S.Mitchell?, A.Walker?, Suckling
MID: Ablett, Pendles, Beams
RUC: Nicnat
FWD: Dusty, Tex, Danger?
Quote from: stew42 on June 24, 2013, 11:32:06 PM
Far out, everyone's forgotten Suckers!
;)
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 24, 2013, 06:19:09 PM
There are going to be quite a few injury discounted players like Kennedy was this year. Suckling, Beams, Tex Walker among the guys who have had games which they have been injured in to drop their averages. Throw in the risky rookie priced players like Morabito and Menzel.
I think Goddard and Gibbs might lose their DPP although Danger might get his back. It depends on who is available but I have a little list
Def: Walker (now a defender), Bartel (if he gets DPP), Mitchell (DPP assumed), Suckling
Mid: Ablett, Beams, Pendles, Murphy, Morabito (knees pending)
Ruck: Griff/Sandi (injuries/starters pending), Nic Nat
Fwd: Danger (If he has DPP), Wingard, Rockliff (coach pending), Walker, Menzel (knees pending)
Hannebery is the other one I will seriously be considering
I think musts are purely on price with the exception of Goddard, Ablett and Pendles
Quote from: specky92 on June 24, 2013, 11:57:04 PM
I think musts are purely on price with the exception of Goddard, Ablett and Pendles
I have a feeling Goddard becomes a pure mid after this season and loses his DPP, no longer making him a must
Say that-
Gibbs loses DPP.
Danger gains DPP. ( MID / FWD )
AWalker changes DPP. ( DEF / MID )
D- Goddard Walker Hanley
M- Ablett Pendles Griffen Beams Jack
R- Goldy
F- Naitanui StevieJ Danger Wingard
I am pretty sure Stevie J will lose his as well, he is a pure mid now
If he loses it then Bartel for me !
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 24, 2013, 11:59:20 PM
Quote from: specky92 on June 24, 2013, 11:57:04 PM
I think musts are purely on price with the exception of Goddard, Ablett and Pendles
I have a feeling Goddard becomes a pure mid after this season and loses his DPP, no longer making him a must
If he becomes mid only then he wouldn't be a must have. Danger as a FWD, now there's a must! Who knows what Bartel will be next year
lock ins?
why has jack martin and jesse hogan not been mentioned?
naitanui and suckling definitely my first 2 picked players
Bartel is hopefully going to be a super human, first ever DEF/MID/FWD.
Pretty please ? ;D
my team might hopefully look like
Walker, Mitchell, Suckers, Hanley
GAJ, Beams, Pendles, Griffin
Goldy, Minson
Nic Nat, Danger, Tex Walker
Whats the fascination of everyone picking Hanley for?
I'm never picking the spud again after having him for about the last month.
Just as bad as spud Birchall. ::)
It is because his a proven gun and we know what he can do. His form is largely based on Vossy. Vossy is the spud mate ! Haha.
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 25, 2013, 12:28:10 AM
Whats the fascination of everyone picking Hanley for?
I'm never picking the spud again after having him for about the last month.
Just as bad as spud Birchall. ::)
because Voss will be sacked by next year
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 25, 2013, 12:33:35 AM
because Voss will be sacked by next year
And this means Rockliff should also be a lock since he won't be stuck in a forward pocket
Whitecross, HMAC, Gary Rohan ( really just want the kid to get another crack at afl), Daisy, Higgins, C.Beams, Easton wood, Mitch Clarke, tex, wellingham, Dom Tyson, Patton, trengrove. Could all be very cheap and undervalued
while he won't be a lock in, Jack Steven might come into consideration next year depending on price.
Barlow looking good also
Tex, beams, daisy, rocky & Hanley (if Voss is gone), suckling, big sandi (as R2 if cheap enough)
and the standard GAJ, BJ, Pendles, Franklin (more so if he moves)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 25, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
my team might hopefully look like
Walker, Mitchell, Suckers, Hanley
GAJ, Beams, Pendles, Griffin
Goldy, Minson
Nic Nat, Danger, Tex Walker
THIS ^^^^^ add Wingard in the Fwd line and this is exactly what im thinking! :o
Quote from: hawkers65 on June 25, 2013, 08:25:17 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 25, 2013, 12:10:20 AM
my team might hopefully look like
Walker, Mitchell, Suckers, Hanley
GAJ, Beams, Pendles, Griffin
Goldy, Minson
Nic Nat, Danger, Tex Walker
THIS ^^^^^ add Wingard in the Fwd line and this is exactly what im thinking! :o
rough estimation I'd say that team would be around $7m
That's not bad just need about 1.5 mil for rookies
So with the other 1.5 will get another premo mid and forward
I honestly believe danger is absolutely no chance of getting dpp.
They are not gonna make things that easy for us.
I like Parker for next year.
Mitchell in the backline should b exciting.
Agree that Goddard and Gibbs will b strictly mids especially Gibbs.
I think I'll be starting with
Suckers Walker Mitchell (3 premo back)
Ablett Pendles Barlow Beams (5 premo mid)
Goldy Natanui Cox Minson Sandilands (2 premo ruck)
Wingard Danger Tex (4 premo fwd)
I feel that was the best structure this year
Am i missing something with Suckling? I had him last year, why is someone who can very easily fork out a 60 a 2014 must-have? Is it purely because he'll be cheap coming off injury? Surely he wont be THAT cheap...
Am I missy-ing something?
Did someone actually talk Higgins up as a lock?
Lock the door and throw away the key to the hospital ward, physio / rehab building and do not ever go back there!
Quote from: tor01doc on June 25, 2013, 09:30:20 AM
Am I missy-ing something?
Did someone actually talk Higgins up as a lock?
Lock the door and throw away the key to the hospital ward, physio / rehab building and do not ever go back there!
Quote from: disco1992 on June 25, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
Higgins
ayyy :o
Quote from: Keeper27 on June 25, 2013, 09:38:30 AM
Quote from: tor01doc on June 25, 2013, 09:30:20 AM
Am I missy-ing something?
Did someone actually talk Higgins up as a lock?
Lock the door and throw away the key to the hospital ward, physio / rehab building and do not ever go back there!
Quote from: disco1992 on June 25, 2013, 01:53:55 AM
Higgins
ayyy :o
Okay maybe not a lock but surely he would be juicy at 59 ave with a discount!!
Shaun Higgins epitomises the idea of a 'Never Again List'
Quote from: juzztheball on June 25, 2013, 09:22:41 AM
Am i missing something with Suckling? I had him last year, why is someone who can very easily fork out a 60 a 2014 must-have? Is it purely because he'll be cheap coming off injury? Surely he wont be THAT cheap...
he might be close to 300k next year well should be but good players get discounted less
Quote from: TheMoops on June 25, 2013, 09:59:04 AM
Shaun Higgins epitomises the idea of a 'Never Again List'
And like everyone else on the list I'm always tempted to try again
Not locks but here is a list of players who to consider.
M.Hibberd, R.Schoenemakers, M.Suckling, S.Atley, P.Hanley
Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Cotchin, L.Mcdonald, J.Martin, C.Beams, C.Sutcliffe, T.Greene, M.Murphy
S.Mumford, Nic Nat
Rockliff, T.Walker, M.Clark, S.Higgins, R.Gray, Franklin
Surely not Schoenmakers ! I'd rate her Raphael Clarke tbh
Daisy Thomas for me. Has been injured, might be at a new club next year and should keep DPP.
Quote from: Holzman on June 25, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
Not locks but here is a list of players who to consider.
M.Hibberd, R.Schoenemakers, M.Suckling, S.Atley, P.Hanley
Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Cotchin, L.Mcdonald, J.Martin, C.Beams, C.Sutcliffe, T.Greene, M.Murphy
S.Mumford, Nic Nat
Rockliff, T.Walker, M.Clark, S.Higgins, R.Gray, Franklin
you think Atley will become a premo Holz? hope so for my BXV team i think he will why i got him in
Will anyone be starting with Griffen ?
Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Will anyone be starting with Griffen ?
It will surely depend on how he finishes off the year !
Quote from: Jackross10 on June 25, 2013, 10:58:48 AM
Quote from: vinny on June 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Will anyone be starting with Griffen ?
It will surely depend on how he finishes off the year !
Yeah that's true.
It will also come down to byes but Griffen would be an upgrade target.
yeah byes are interesting i reckon start with with the round 13 bye players you want
before the byes upgrade to round 12 bye players
then have cash ready after round 11 to get in 3 more upgrades
Quote from: Jackross10 on June 25, 2013, 10:39:32 AM
Surely not Schoenmakers ! I'd rate her Raphael Clarke tbh
Still young, will be super cheap based on his 64 average and injured for most of the season.
Started the year with 74 and 101
finished the home and away season with these scores 94 82 104 92 he did have a shocking final series though.
at under 250k you woudl be silly not too look at him if he is fit and playing in the NAB.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 25, 2013, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Holzman on June 25, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
Not locks but here is a list of players who to consider.
M.Hibberd, R.Schoenemakers, M.Suckling, S.Atley, P.Hanley
Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Cotchin, L.Mcdonald, J.Martin, C.Beams, C.Sutcliffe, T.Greene, M.Murphy
S.Mumford, Nic Nat
Rockliff, T.Walker, M.Clark, S.Higgins, R.Gray, Franklin
you think Atley will become a premo Holz? hope so for my BXV team i think he will why i got him in
probably not but I will look at him. I dont think he will jump up more than too 85.
This year it was unfortunate that most of the top mids had round 12 or 13 byes. Apart from Griffen, a lot of the other guys would struggle to be top 8 at the end of the season. I think this year a lot of us were able to fluke the byes, I think it is all going to be about staggering lines next year. So for example, being prepared to have multiples missing from one line early to protect another if that makes sense.
Yeah that's a good point Matt. People are also sometimes just unlucky with late outs and things.
Back - Goddard, Hanley, Suckling
Mid - GAJ, D Beams, Rich, C Beams,
Ruc - Nic Nat
Fwd - Zorko and Rockliff (if voss leaves), Stevie J, Dangerfield
Speaking of Byes, it would be nice if Collingwood and Gold Coast didn't share a bye like they have the past 2 seasons........
Quote from: nrich102 on June 25, 2013, 03:56:38 PM
Back - Goddard, Hanley, Suckling
Mid - GAJ, D Beams, Rich, C Beams,
Ruc - Nic Nat
Fwd - Zorko and Rockliff (if voss leaves), Stevie J, Dangerfield
Can tell your a Brissy fan... ;)
Haha yes that's true !
Quote from: hawkers65 on June 25, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
Can tell your a Brissy fan... ;)
Did Rich give it away?
DEF:
Goddard, Gibbs, Bock (maybe Staker priced next year?), Suckling
MID:
Gazza, Beams, Priddis (so consistent and under priced again), Jack Martin (absolute gun, 17 year old draft)
RUC:
NicNat
FOR:
Buddy, Stevie J, Dusty, hogan (another 17 year old gun)
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 25, 2013, 05:34:40 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on June 25, 2013, 05:31:50 PM
Can tell your a Brissy fan... ;)
Did Rich give it away?
Hahahaha..... i was being sarcastic, suppose its not easy to convey over the internet.
Quote from: Holzman on June 25, 2013, 11:14:57 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on June 25, 2013, 10:42:41 AM
Quote from: Holzman on June 25, 2013, 10:33:57 AM
Not locks but here is a list of players who to consider.
M.Hibberd, R.Schoenemakers, M.Suckling, S.Atley, P.Hanley
Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Cotchin, L.Mcdonald, J.Martin, C.Beams, C.Sutcliffe, T.Greene, M.Murphy
S.Mumford, Nic Nat
Rockliff, T.Walker, M.Clark, S.Higgins, R.Gray, Franklin
you think Atley will become a premo Holz? hope so for my BXV team i think he will why i got him in
probably not but I will look at him. I dont think he will jump up more than too 85.
Mullett is sharing his role this year and has done it with aplomb so I'd be wary of Atley
Quote from: Footyrulz on June 25, 2013, 05:41:10 PM
DEF:
Goddard, Gibbs, Bock (maybe Staker priced next year?), Suckling
MID:
Gazza, Beams, Priddis (so consistent and under priced again), Jack Martin (absolute gun, 17 year old draft)
RUC:
NicNat
FOR:
Buddy, Stevie J, Dusty, hogan (another 17 year old gun)
I think Bock is playing 2s atm
Bock is also under investigation from ASADA. He might not even be playing next year.
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 25, 2013, 06:11:14 PM
Bock is also under investigation from ASADA. He might not even be playing next year.
Really? I know he has some family issues, but has he really been taking drugs?
Quote from: nrich102 on June 25, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
Really? I know he has some family issues, but has he really been taking drugs?
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gold-coast-suns-defender-nathan-bock-the-latest-afl-player-drawn-into-asada-doping-investigation/story-e6frf3e3-1226641667611
It dates back to when Dank was there. There was talk when the story broke that they would stand him down until the investigation was over
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 25, 2013, 06:22:44 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on June 25, 2013, 06:19:30 PM
Really? I know he has some family issues, but has he really been taking drugs?
http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-premiership/gold-coast-suns-defender-nathan-bock-the-latest-afl-player-drawn-into-asada-doping-investigation/story-e6frf3e3-1226641667611
It dates back to when Dank was there. There was talk when the story broke that they would stand him down until the investigation was over
Thanks man
Chad Wingard, Jack Martin, NicNat, Taylor Walker ;) Paddy the Dangerman, Trent Cotchspud, Birchell, Nat Fyfe, Buddy (At new club)
Quote from: tbagrocks on June 26, 2013, 06:13:58 PM
Chad Wingard, Jack Martin, NicNat, Taylor Walker ;) Paddy the Dangerman, Trent Cotchspud, Birchell, Nat Fyfe, Buddy (At new club)
Hahaha trust ! Hopefully your boy Danger gets himself DPP. Will be very handy to have a gun mid as a forward that can average what he does.
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 06:17:19 PM
Hahaha trust ! Hopefully your boy Danger gets himself DPP. Will be very handy to have a gun mid as a forward that can average what he does.
Oh I hope so aswell Vinny! ::)
Tbag that also reminds me with Nat Fyfe, I think he will become very popular in a few years, as he's a gun in a good up and coming side. If he has DPP which he most likely won't ill pick him, but I might also bite the bullet and have him in my mids anyway, as he is an absolute star.
Might start with Gaz, Pendles, Jack, Fyfe, and Beams in my Mids, ;)
Quote from: _wato on June 26, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 06:17:19 PM
Hahaha trust ! Hopefully your boy Danger gets himself DPP. Will be very handy to have a gun mid as a forward that can average what he does.
Oh I hope so aswell Vinny! ::)
Tbag that also reminds me with Nat Fyfe, I think he will become very popular in a few years, as he's a gun in a good up and coming side. If he has DPP which he most likely won't ill pick him, but I might also bite the bullet and have him in my mids anyway, as he is an absolute star.
Might start with Gaz, Pendles, Jack, Fyfe, and Beams in my Mids, ;)
Hahaha very similar to me Wato.
Might go: Gaz, Pendles, Beams, Jack and Swan/Griffen.
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 09:33:19 PM
Hahaha very similar to me Wato.
Might go: Gaz, Pendles, Beams, Jack and Swan/Griffen.
hahaha, think your starting Mids just beats mine with Swanny/Griff on Fyfe.
I think Cotchin on current form will be extremely cheap next year, talking maybe 530-580k which is extremely tasty.
Might go him instead of Fyfe or just go with 6 as Beams and Cotch will be high mid prices ;)
Hmmm yes ! The main thing is nailing the rookies :P
Jack Martin will be a lock for mids. His an absolute freak !
Anyone know of any other rising guns ?
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 09:38:47 PM
Hmmm yes ! The main thing is nailing the rookies :P
Jack Martin will be a lock for mids. His an absolute freak !
Anyone know of any other rising guns ?
Sure is mate! Cash generation is extremely important!
definitely! He's averaging 119 in the current league he's playing in, whereas O'Meara averaged 90 in the same one, and seeing how well O'Meara has transitioned, imagine Martin. He is an absolute gun, the full package they say!
Tom Boyd will be a popular pick up forward, he is AFL ready. Josh Kelly who was close to going through the Mini Draft last year will also be very popular. Luke McDonald is a gun, Billy Hartung can play Mids and up Forward, Darcy Gardiner could be the first rookie picked in the defenders, as he is the best looking prospect, Nathan Freeman who can hit the scoreboard, and Matt Crouch who is one of the best inside mids in the current champs, and the likely top 10 prospect of the upcoming draft. Hope this was alright mate :)
Quote from: _wato on June 26, 2013, 09:48:14 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 09:38:47 PM
Hmmm yes ! The main thing is nailing the rookies :P
Jack Martin will be a lock for mids. His an absolute freak !
Anyone know of any other rising guns ?
Sure is mate! Cash generation is extremely important!
definitely! He's averaging 119 in the current league he's playing in, whereas O'Meara averaged 90 in the same one, and seeing how well O'Meara has transitioned, imagine Martin. He is an absolute gun, the full package they say!
Tom Boyd will be a popular pick up forward, he is AFL ready. Josh Kelly who was close to going through the Mini Draft last year will also be very popular. Luke McDonald is a gun, Billy Hartung can play Mids and up Forward, Darcy Gardiner could be the first rookie picked in the defenders, as he is the best looking prospect, Nathan Freeman who can hit the scoreboard, and Matt Crouch who is one of the best inside mids in the current champs, and the likely top 10 prospect of the upcoming draft. Hope this was alright mate :)
Thanks a stack mate ! I'll cheer you for the next day whenever I can. Was looking for something like this. Will look into these players now :)
McDonald could be a little cheaper SC wise too depending on where North finish as he'll go F/S.
Quote from: roo boys! on June 26, 2013, 09:53:47 PM
McDonald could be a little cheaper SC wise too depending on where North finish as he'll go F/S.
Yeah North have that awesome luxury of having the F/S selection on him, and they'll take him with their first pick at the draft, much like Essendon did this year. It could be interesting ???
In which position does McDonald play ? ???
Quote from: vinny on June 26, 2013, 11:25:20 PM
In which position does McDonald play ? ???
Mainly off the half back flank mate, but could see him playing off a wing or even having the stints in the middle. Has a raking left foot mate, which we all love ;D
Haha yes, cheers wato !
Just read an article on someone who hasn't played for about 12 months.....
H-Mac.
With Geelong's midfield, he would be an absolute steal if he didn't come up for a game this year.
Also, with Nicoski injuring his wrist, he would be out for 2 seasons straight, so will most likely be rookie priced.
Could we have the leuenberger and staker/macaffer of 2014 already...?
Quote from: Hoggyz_a_legend on June 27, 2013, 01:15:19 PM
Just read an article on someone who hasn't played for about 12 months.....
H-Mac.
With Geelong's midfield, he would be an absolute steal if he didn't come up for a game this year.
Also, with Nicoski injuring his wrist, he would be out for 2 seasons straight, so will most likely be rookie priced.
Could we have the leuenberger and staker/macaffer of 2014 already...?
Mm interesting, do you have a link mate ?
haha Vinny your DP is awesome.
Quote from: brad on June 27, 2013, 01:20:31 PM
haha Vinny your DP is awesome.
Haha thanks man ;D FRESH PRINCE
H-mac.... http://m.afl.com.au/news/2013-06-27/big-cat-frustrated-but-hopeful
Hopefully he doesn't get back before finals.
Nicoski...http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/west-coast-eagle-mark-nicoski-to-miss-rest-of-season-after-undergoing-wrist-surgery/story-fni5faul-1226670387663
Hopefully it isn't career ending because he is far from the worst player to pull on a set of boots.
Cheers Hoggy !
Also have a look out for Dom Sheed who is expected to go top 5 this year. Had 29 touches and kicked 4 goals today in a best on ground performance. Patrick Mcartin also looked alright and is ineligible for another year, but kicked 5.3 today, looks a star! Get on him 2015
Sweeet ! Looks like some nice young blood coming through, hopefully they can earn themselves senior games.
Quote from: vinny on June 28, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
Sweeet ! Looks like some nice young blood coming through, hopefully they can earn themselves senior games.
Yeah sure will! Obviously I don't know enough to say who will and who won't but hopefully we have good rookies for next year like we did this year, was such a bonus picking the good rookies!
By the way Vinny your cheer/boo ratio has increased dramatically from last time I saw! Keep it up mate! Haha
Quote from: _wato on June 28, 2013, 03:06:28 PM
Quote from: vinny on June 28, 2013, 03:03:59 PM
Sweeet ! Looks like some nice young blood coming through, hopefully they can earn themselves senior games.
Yeah sure will! Obviously I don't know enough to say who will and who won't but hopefully we have good rookies for next year like we did this year, was such a bonus picking the good rookies!
By the way Vinny your cheer/boo ratio has increased dramatically from last time I saw! Keep it up mate! Haha
Haha thanks mate !
Trent McKenzie will be a good option down back.
Quote from: _wato on June 28, 2013, 03:02:17 PM
Also have a look out for Dom Sheed who is expected to go top 5 this year. Had 29 touches and kicked 4 goals today in a best on ground performance. Patrick Mcartin also looked alright and is ineligible for another year, but kicked 5.3 today, looks a star! Get on him 2015
SC PAIGE said something like he broke his collorbone so is not going to be drafted yet?
Quote from: sammy123 on June 28, 2013, 04:52:36 PM
SC PAIGE said something like he broke his collorbone so is not going to be drafted yet?
Mate being perfectly honest, plenty of young guns get injured before the draft and during the national champs. This won't stop him from going potential top 5 in the draft mate. He is a star and you don't let blokes of his calibre go any lower from a broken collarbone. Apparently it is only a rumour also, and it hasn't been confirmed yet.
Pavlich could be cheap maybe an injury discount should be around 400K?
Quote from: sam32 on June 28, 2013, 05:09:15 PM
Pavlich could be cheap maybe an injury discount should be around 400K?
Yeah will depend greatly on how he finishes the year off.
Any love for Roughy as a lock? Is the form forward at the moment, and getting a fair bit of the ball when he goes up the ground. If he keeps this kind of form up, he's a certainty for me.
Surely will get a lot more of the ball directed his way if/when buddy leaves. And he can take a contested grab (unlike buddy) so a. It more attention shouldn't worry him.
Im a bit biased though.
Might have to add Heppell, also NicNat
If anyone hasn't heard! James Aish :o
Def: Goddard, Heppell, Suckling, Gibbs
Mid: Abblett, Barlow, Pendles
Ruck: Goldy
For: Danger (if DPP), Nic Nat, Martin
surely Heppel loses his DPP?
Hope Sam Mitchell and Andy Walker get DPP up back.
suckling as a smokie
Quote from: sammy123 on June 28, 2013, 07:30:30 PM
suckling as a smokie
Doubt he'll be a smokey! Will be super cheap and should average 90+. Is priced at 440k now so will be under 400k! Bargain!
What is everyone's thoughts on Rory Sloane ?
He may take it to the next level next year. Could be a good POD !
dion prestia looks like he could be a good pick up next year
Jack Steven, Dion Prestia, Trent McKenzie, Dyson Heppell. Some locks?
ii'll be keeping an eye on Tippett this year as a possible starter next year might be a good POD
Quote from: Griffo35 on July 01, 2013, 10:20:53 PM
Jack Steven, Dion Prestia, Trent McKenzie, Dyson Heppell. Some locks?
Heppell will most likely to just midfield, love me some Dion though
Jack grimes, jack watts?
#Dion42014
#Dion4PM
Richard Tambling
SLOANEY FOR A POD I RECKON
Def: Heppell, Suckling, Gibbs
Mid: Dangermouse, watson, shuey, hanners, armatigage, ward
Ruck: Nic Nat, Smith
For: Walker, franklin, watts
i think the shuey, hanners, armatage are all worth the punt next year
failed ytd but they all have no excuse from next year not to break that 120average
Walker, Suckling, Gibbs, S. Mitchell
Ablett, Pendlebury, Jack, Beams, Fyfe
Nic Nat, Mcintosh
Cox, Buddy, Danger, Dusty
Walker Suckling Hanley ( Depending on Coach )
Ablett Pendles Griffen Beams
NicNat Goldy
Cox Bartel Danger Wingard
Not sure if he's been mentioned in here yet but Jarrad McVeigh would have to be close to a lock down back if he gets DPP wouldn't he?
Might sneak Ablett in somewhere
Quote from: Jackross10 on July 02, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
SLOANEY FOR A POD I RECKON
Out two great mids being played out of position often, with Crouch, Kerridge, Wright, Lyons etc, Danger and Sloane should be back to Rover status next season
Does this sound bias? Tex Walker, Dangerfield, Brodie Smith(DEF), Wingard!
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 02, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: Jackross10 on July 02, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
SLOANEY FOR A POD I RECKON
Out two great mids being played out of position often, with Crouch, Kerridge, Wright, Lyons etc, Danger and Sloane should be back to Rover status next season
Does this sound bias? Tex Walker, Dangerfield, Brodie Smith(DEF), Wingard!
I like Smith has a pod, has been tearing up in BXV
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 02, 2013, 05:49:11 PM
Quote from: Jackross10 on July 02, 2013, 09:06:11 AM
SLOANEY FOR A POD I RECKON
Out two great mids being played out of position often, with Crouch, Kerridge, Wright, Lyons etc, Danger and Sloane should be back to Rover status next season
Does this sound bias? Tex Walker, Dangerfield, Brodie Smith(DEF), Wingard!
Not really
Danger would definitely if a forward. Tex may be good depending on his price.
Tom lonergan to get a run in the midfield and angus graham
What are the chances of Bartel changing to a forward/defense dp.
Would love to see him be available for all 3 of Forward/Midfield/Defense but that obviously will never happen.
Quote from: Swoozie on July 03, 2013, 07:02:54 PM
What are the chances of Bartel changing to a forward/defense dp.
Would love to see him be available for all 3 of Forward/Midfield/Defense but that obviously will never happen.
Very possible. Lol yes all three would be awesome.
David swallow should be a great pickup, I bet he isn't unique come round 1 though.
Quote from: Holzman on July 03, 2013, 08:39:39 PM
David swallow should be a great pickup, I bet he isn't unique come round 1 though.
Good chance he will a back. Would get on if so.
Quote from: whatlez on July 03, 2013, 08:53:57 PM
Quote from: Holzman on July 03, 2013, 08:39:39 PM
David swallow should be a great pickup, I bet he isn't unique come round 1 though.
Good chance he will a back. Would get on if so.
If he's a backmen I'd consider him.
Might squeeze jack into my mids
Yeah I'll be starting with-
Ablett Pendles Griffen Jack and Beams if his under 550k :)
I think I may skip the midprice players next season and stick to the guns and rookies approach:
Backs: Goddard/Gibbs, Hanley, S.Mitchell, Walker - have a feeling Goddard and Gibbs will be mids only, Mitchell and Walker should be defenders
Mids: Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Dangerfield - load up with the gun midfielders
Rucks: Goldstein, McIntosh - either grab HMac, or just go with Goldstein and Minson
Forwards: Cox, Bartel, SJ, NicNat, Martin, Buddy - depends on who keeps/loses their DPP and where Buddy goes. Possibly Tex too if he's cheap enough
Hamish McIntosh may not even play this year. If he doesn't he'll be a bargain next year and would be a lock for most teams.
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/geelong-ruckman-hamish-mcintosh-has-ankle-surgery-to-overcome-nagging-injury/story-fni5f6yf-1226677323256
DEF - Walker (DPP hopefully), Mitchell (DPP), Suckling ($300K-ish), Goddard
MID - GAJ, Beams ($470-550K), Pendles, Sloan, JMartin, LMcDonald (DPP hopefully)
RUCK - McIntosh ($350K)
FWD - Tex ($350K), Wingard, Danger (DPP hopefully), Daisy ($350K), Buddy (@ new club)
give or take so far $7.2M
Quote from: Keeper27 on July 11, 2013, 01:51:39 PM
DEF - Walker (DPP hopefully), Mitchell (DPP), Suckling ($300K-ish), Goddard
MID - GAJ, Beams ($470-550K), Pendles, Sloan, JMartin, LMcDonald (DPP hopefully)
RUCK - McIntosh ($350K)
FWD - Tex ($350K), Wingard, Danger (DPP hopefully), Daisy ($350K), Buddy (@ new club)
I'm thinking Sloane aswell
Mark Murphy will be nice and cheap?
Even guys like Jobe and Cotch will be priced at 10 points under what they should be scoring
Backs: Goddard Suckling Walker ( Should get DPP )
Mids: Ablett (Duh), Dangerfield, Pendles, Wingard (DPP Forward?)
Rucks: Minson, McEvoy
Forwards: Tex, Buddy, Thomas, Gunston ( If buddy is gone)
If Nathan Bock doesn't return this year, he could be like Staker was this year?
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
Quote from: quinny88 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
That a tough one Quinny ! Buddy I think at a new club will turn his game around and average decent but his playing for GWS.
So I would just wait and see and he may be an upgrade target. Thats if he is in good form. Should be cheap too.
Quote from: vinny on July 11, 2013, 03:39:35 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
That a tough one Quinny ! Buddy I think at a new club will turn his game around and average decent but his playing for GWS.
So I would just wait and see and he may be an upgrade target. Thats if he is in good form. Should be cheap too.
Yeah if he went to freo I would lock him in but a team like GWS with poor supply to the forward line and getting belted most weeks. I dont see him playing well in a side like that. He is temperamental in a gun side let alone a poor side
Yeah at Freo a lock in but his been offered a damn good amount of money. Just depends on his loyalty now :P
Quote from: quinny88 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
Same Here. No way if he's at GWS
Quote from: quinny88 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
At the moment no, but GWS will improve massively over the preseason if Gold Coast is any indicator, so we'll have to wait and see. He will have to compete with Cameron though.
Quote from: Big Mac on July 11, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 11, 2013, 03:34:36 PM
Would people lock buddy in if he was at GWS? That would put me off him completely
At the moment no, but GWS will improve massively over the preseason if Gold Coast is any indicator, so we'll have to wait and see. He will have to compete with Cameron though.
And Patton. Flower, GWS don't need Buddy
i think Buddy at GWS would be great.
Think of it like GAJ. sure he aint a midfielder but as a FWD option he will be the main option.
imagine in a standard game he'll be the main target by all the improving youngin's at GWS, 10-15 marks a game, handful of goals.
easy 100+
doubt it if you want, i'll be starting with him.
Quote from: Keeper27 on July 11, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
i think Buddy at GWS would be great.
Think of it like GAJ. sure he aint a midfielder but as a FWD option he will be the main option.
imagine in a standard game he'll be the main target by all the improving youngin's at GWS, 10-15 marks a game, handful of goals.
easy 100+
doubt it if you want, i'll be starting with him.
But Buddy Cameron and Patton?? How can they all do well? Buddy will still be good at GWS, but not as good as this year and previous years
What's happening with Morabito??
Quote from: Samsturmfels on July 11, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
What's happening with Morabito??
He'll do an ACL or some other season ending surgery before the start of next year
Quote from: nrich102 on July 11, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on July 11, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
What's happening with Morabito??
He'll do an ACL or some other season ending surgery before the start of next year
if he doesn't may select him
Wingard + Tom Boyd + Jack Martin + O'Meara + Tom Mitchell + Auto Select = Recipe for Success
Quote from: nrich102 on July 11, 2013, 05:54:37 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on July 11, 2013, 05:22:54 PM
i think Buddy at GWS would be great.
Think of it like GAJ. sure he aint a midfielder but as a FWD option he will be the main option.
imagine in a standard game he'll be the main target by all the improving youngin's at GWS, 10-15 marks a game, handful of goals.
easy 100+
doubt it if you want, i'll be starting with him.
But Buddy Cameron and Patton?? How can they all do well? Buddy will still be good at GWS, but not as good as this year and previous years
Lets be Honest, if you were playing at GWS, and you had a split decision choice between Patton & Buddy who'd you kick too?
Buddy. why?? coz he's buddy.
Quote from: nrich102 on July 11, 2013, 06:53:16 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on July 11, 2013, 06:37:09 PM
What's happening with Morabito??
He'll do an ACL or some other season ending surgery before the start of next year
wow LOL punch a poor bloke in the nuts chief
Quote from: Noz on July 11, 2013, 07:33:39 PM
Wingard + Tom Boyd + Jack Martin + O'Meara + Tom Mitchell + Auto Select = Recipe for Success
nice. not worried bout 2nd year blues?? Greene was poised to be a STAR too. just saying
Tom Mitchell is too much of a gun to suffer any type of football related sickness/injuries
O'Meara is going to take his game to another level and won't get tag and just continue to decimate games.
Wingard will be All Australian
Boyd to kick 10 on debut
Martin to average 25 disposals and 2 goals for the year
Quote from: Noz on July 11, 2013, 07:54:39 PM
Tom Mitchell is too much of a gun to suffer any type of football related sickness/injuries
O'Meara is going to take his game to another level and won't get tag and just continue to decimate games.
Wingard will be All Australian
Boyd to kick 10 on debut
Martin to average 25 disposals and 2 goals for the year
Little bit too presumptuous aren't you?
DEF: Goddard*, Mitchell*, Walker*, Swallow*, Suckling
MID: Ablett, Murphy, Martin, Morabito
RUC: McIntosh
FWD: Buddy**, Walker, Wingard*, Hogan
*If DPP
** If at GWS
Something like this would be my starting shell if i had to make a team now
Haven't read the previous 11 pages but IMO...
GAJ, Pendles, Swan, Goddard, Stevie J.
Now that Beams is going to play the next 7 games barring any more injury concern. How does the discounting work ?
How cheap will he go ?
Quote from: vinny on July 15, 2013, 09:53:19 AM
Now that Beams is going to play the next 7 games barring any more injury concern. How does the discounting work ?
How cheap will he go ?
he will have a mall discouNT (maybe 10 %) from what he averages this year.
so if he averages 100, he will priced at around 90 i think. still a lock for me.
Could Danger be a bit under priced after getting injured?
Hmm I'm not sure mate ! There is a chance he regains DPP if so I will be locking him in.
Had another think -
Hanley Walker Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Beams Murphy
Goldy
Danger StevieJ Roughy
Chad Wingard, Taylor Walker, Marc Murphy, Aaron Mullett, Goldstein, Dangerfield, Watson, Nic Nat, Josh Kennedy (Sydney variety) are guys I think I'll lock in.
Spaz for Faz
Quote from: vinny on July 17, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Had another think -
Hanley Walker Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Beams Murphy
Goldy
Danger StevieJ Roughy
Pretty much this except instead of Murphy i'd have Watson, instead of Danger (I don't think he'll have DPP) i'd have Wingard, and i'd probably throw in Minson and Dusty as well. Might be just over the cap but we'll see
Quote from: Big Mac on July 17, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on July 17, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Had another think -
Hanley Walker Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Beams Murphy
Goldy
Danger StevieJ Roughy
Pretty much this except instead of Murphy i'd have Watson, instead of Danger (I don't think he'll have DPP) i'd have Wingard, and i'd probably throw in Minson and Dusty as well. Might be just over the cap but we'll see
Chances are probably high that Minson turns into a spud again, see ruckmen over the last few years who had one good year and turned back into average rucks/hacks. Maric/Jacobs/Jamar are examples I can think of in the last few years.
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on July 17, 2013, 10:13:47 PM
Quote from: Big Mac on July 17, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on July 17, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Had another think -
Hanley Walker Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Beams Murphy
Goldy
Danger StevieJ Roughy
Pretty much this except instead of Murphy i'd have Watson, instead of Danger (I don't think he'll have DPP) i'd have Wingard, and i'd probably throw in Minson and Dusty as well. Might be just over the cap but we'll see
Chances are probably high that Minson turns into a spud again, see ruckmen over the last few years who had one good year and turned back into average rucks/hacks. Maric/Jacobs/Jamar are examples I can think of in the last few years.
I'd much rather back in Goldy any day of the week as vinny has and then maybe roll with Griffin (if Sandi is out as he inevitably is) or a cheaper option at R2.
Quote from: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Could Danger be a bit under priced after getting injured?
nah, he has a high average
Quote from: strikes91 on July 17, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Could Danger be a bit under priced after getting injured?
nah, he has a high average
Not as high as last year :o Start him or regret it!
Quote from: Big Mac on July 17, 2013, 10:04:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on July 17, 2013, 09:38:27 PM
Had another think -
Hanley Walker Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Beams Murphy
Goldy
Danger StevieJ Roughy
Pretty much this except instead of Murphy i'd have Watson, instead of Danger (I don't think he'll have DPP) i'd have Wingard, and i'd probably throw in Minson and Dusty as well. Might be just over the cap but we'll see
i don't watch many Adelaide games, but he seems to play forward a bit
So.....
Back: Hanley, Suckling
Mid: GAJ, Pendles, Jack Reden, Jack Martin, Aish, D. Beams
Ruck: Luey, Hmac
Fwd: Roughy, Dangerfield, Wingard, Jesse Hogan, Tom Boyd
Walters. Should move into the midfield next season for a breakout, but will be listed as a Forward
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 18, 2013, 12:36:53 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on July 17, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Could Danger be a bit under priced after getting injured?
nah, he has a high average
Not as high as last year :o Start him or regret it!
didn't say I wouldn't
but I wont
Just some suggestions and queries !
Matty Kreuzer ? Anyone locking him in - I think he can keep a solid average next year after being very consistent this year excluding injury games.
Minson or Goldy for 2014 ? Or Sandi ? HMac ? Mummy ?
Also Roughy ?! His been arguably the best forward this year other than SJ ! Anyone locking him in and if Buddy leaves how will it effect him ?
Murphy and Cotchin are locked in for me as I reckon they can take their game to a new level of consistency and Murph will be super cheap. Along with Beams and also Walker and Mitchell if they get DPP.
Quote from: tbagrocks on July 18, 2013, 12:36:53 AM
Quote from: strikes91 on July 17, 2013, 11:03:41 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on July 17, 2013, 08:59:53 PM
Could Danger be a bit under priced after getting injured?
nah, he has a high average
Not as high as last year :o Start him or regret it!
People said that about Buddy this year, :o
Quote from: vinny on July 24, 2013, 06:36:59 PM
Just some suggestions and queries !
Matty Kreuzer ? Anyone locking him in - I think he can keep a solid average next year after being very consistent this year excluding injury games.
Minson or Goldy for 2014 ? Or Sandi ? HMac ? Mummy ?
Also Roughy ?! His been arguably the best forward this year other than SJ ! Anyone locking him in and if Buddy leaves how will it effect him ?
Murphy and Cotchin are locked in for me as I reckon they can take their game to a new level of consistency and Murph will be super cheap. Along with Beams and also Walker and Mitchell if they get DPP.
Lol how has Murphy done anything to make you want him? He's cheap for a reason not done anything this year
He hasn't been terrible this year and I believe he can bounce back next year after a solid preseason.
We know what his capable of and his been effected by injuries this year too.
I think his going to fire next year and I'll be taking the punt. Hope it pays off :P
Quote from: meow meow on July 25, 2013, 12:00:04 AM
Would anyone take a punt on Higgins? 59 average this year with a 40% discount would see him at about $190,000 next season. Tempting?
Would be tempting as he could easyily average at premo status but you just have to look at games played in his career, from this year to 2006, he stands at; 3, 19, 18, 16, 17, 4, 20, 5. So he has never played a full season. Doubt i'll pick him but could be a nice POD.
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
I'm not so sure about that. Since walker went down danger has spent a lot of time in the forward line and kicked a lot of goals. Still no certainty to be a forward but has to be a good chance.
The ruck is going to be my hardest area to pick. Whoever goes to GWS would have to be considered, hmac should be a bargain, Naitanui, Maric, leuenberger all getting a full pre season will be a massive bonus.
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
I'm not so sure about that. Since walker went down danger has spent a lot of time in the forward line and kicked a lot of goals. Still no certainty to be a forward but has to be a good chance.
The ruck is going to be my hardest area to pick. Whoever goes to GWS would have to be considered, hmac should be a bargain, Naitanui, Maric, leuenberger all getting a full pre season will be a massive bonus.
I know they say they use heat maps and where the players pick up the stats. Cant see VS giving a potential 120 average player DPP.
Swan got 32 goals in 2011
ablett 44 goals in 2010
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
I'm not so sure about that. Since walker went down danger has spent a lot of time in the forward line and kicked a lot of goals. Still no certainty to be a forward but has to be a good chance.
The ruck is going to be my hardest area to pick. Whoever goes to GWS would have to be considered, hmac should be a bargain, Naitanui, Maric, leuenberger all getting a full pre season will be a massive bonus.
I know they say they use heat maps and where the players pick up the stats. Cant see VS giving a potential 120 average player DPP.
Swan got 32 goals in 2011
ablett 44 goals in 2010
Oh yeah I certainly dont think kicking goals is enough but he has started a fair few games in the forward line so hopefully they are kind. Probably a little wishful though
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
I'm not so sure about that. Since walker went down danger has spent a lot of time in the forward line and kicked a lot of goals. Still no certainty to be a forward but has to be a good chance.
The ruck is going to be my hardest area to pick. Whoever goes to GWS would have to be considered, hmac should be a bargain, Naitanui, Maric, leuenberger all getting a full pre season will be a massive bonus.
I know they say they use heat maps and where the players pick up the stats. Cant see VS giving a potential 120 average player DPP.
Swan got 32 goals in 2011
ablett 44 goals in 2010
Oh yeah I certainly dont think kicking goals is enough but he has started a fair few games in the forward line so hopefully they are kind. Probably a little wishful though
didnt just want to infer goals equals dpp but swanny has been playing up front abit too. They just wont do it, watch SJ lose DPP this year too.
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 11:06:26 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 10:58:52 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on July 25, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on July 25, 2013, 08:49:09 AM
All these people picking danger in the forward line he is no shot, averages way too much and he is a mid who rests up front. Swan could also be a fwd mid but he won't be
Here is a unique one for you.
Jed Lamb
I'm not so sure about that. Since walker went down danger has spent a lot of time in the forward line and kicked a lot of goals. Still no certainty to be a forward but has to be a good chance.
The ruck is going to be my hardest area to pick. Whoever goes to GWS would have to be considered, hmac should be a bargain, Naitanui, Maric, leuenberger all getting a full pre season will be a massive bonus.
I know they say they use heat maps and where the players pick up the stats. Cant see VS giving a potential 120 average player DPP.
Swan got 32 goals in 2011
ablett 44 goals in 2010
Oh yeah I certainly dont think kicking goals is enough but he has started a fair few games in the forward line so hopefully they are kind. Probably a little wishful though
didnt just want to infer goals equals dpp but swanny has been playing up front abit too. They just wont do it, watch SJ lose DPP this year too.
Yeah SJ is a certainty to lose it :(
Jack Steven and Trent McKenzie will be two of my certain starters!
Heading into R18 the top 4 mids on points scored are: GAJ, Pendles, Swan and Jelwood. Not much has changed over the last 5 years. I will be locking in GAJ, Swan and Pendles again if all up and running in R1. Goddard down back is a lock in too. Other than those 4 that's it. The remaining 8 starting premiums will be based on price, team balance and positions.
Dangerfield, Watson, Stevie J, Griffen, Steven, Beams and co may make the cut but I'm not going to lock them in if it stops me from affording 2 or 3 slightly cheaper options elsewhere.
Don't think you can lock in any rucks...might be a year when they might be quite different team to team.
Top 20 rucks atm...in order of pts scored...Minson, Goldy, Cox*, McEvoy, Roughead*, Pyke, Leuey, Jacobs, Kreuezer, Maric, Hale*, Giles, Bellchambers, Jenkins*, Ryder*, Nic Nat*, Mummy, Lobbe, Blicavs*, Bailey.
Others of note include: Nicholls, Griffen, Smith, Simpson, Rowe and Sandi.
*2013 DPP
A fit and firing Nic Nat would be a lock...will be relatively cheap with an average of 96.
Sandi has only played 2 games, named again this week, current ave of 52...will be in a lot of teams if he is up and about and cheap in 2014.
Minson, Goldy, Roughead(if DPP), Kreuezer are amongst the better set and forget options for next year....and maybe Leuenberger could be added to this list.
Personally I wouldn't touch McEvoy(not consistent enough), Jacobs(2013 form), Maric(2013 form) and I have question marks over a few of the others...Cox(age), Mummy(consistency and injury), Pyke(scoring consistency/ability to go big) and unproven/improving ruckmen such as Nicholls will be expensive and a bit of an unknown as to whether they can maintain a 100+ average.
My starting rucks could be: Minson, Sandi (rookie DPP, rookie) with fwd/ruck DPP in fwds or Goldy, Kreuzer (rookie, rookie)...
too early to tell but I will be interested to see how Sandi finishes the year and starts next year, beginning this weekend.
Quote from: enzedder on July 26, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
Don't think you can lock in any rucks...might be a year when they might be quite different team to team.
Top 20 rucks atm...in order of pts scored...Minson, Goldy, Cox*, McEvoy, Roughead*, Pyke, Leuey, Jacobs, Kreuezer, Maric, Hale*, Giles, Bellchambers, Jenkins*, Ryder*, Nic Nat*, Mummy, Lobbe, Blicavs*, Bailey.
Others of note include: Nicholls, Griffen, Smith, Simpson, Rowe and Sandi.
*2013 DPP
A fit and firing Nic Nat would be a lock...will be relatively cheap with an average of 96.
Sandi has only played 2 games, named again this week, current ave of 52...will be in a lot of teams if he is up and about and cheap in 2014.
Minson, Goldy, Roughead(if DPP), Kreuezer are amongst the better set and forget options for next year....and maybe Leuenberger could be added to this list.
Personally I wouldn't touch McEvoy(not consistent enough), Jacobs(2013 form), Maric(2013 form) and I have question marks over a few of the others...Cox(age), Mummy(consistency and injury), Pyke(scoring consistency/ability to go big) and unproven/improving ruckmen such as Nicholls will be expensive and a bit of an unknown as to whether they can maintain a 100+ average.
My starting rucks could be: Minson, Sandi (rookie DPP, rookie) with fwd/ruck DPP in fwds or Goldy, Kreuzer (rookie, rookie)...
too early to tell but I will be interested to see how Sandi finishes the year and starts next year, beginning this weekend.
The rucks are going to be really interesting next year. As well as the points you've listed above, there is the possibility that someone like Bellchambers may move to GWS, which could make them a more attractive option.
Quote from: enzedder on July 26, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
Don't think you can lock in any rucks...might be a year when they might be quite different team to team.
Top 20 rucks atm...in order of pts scored...Minson, Goldy, Cox*, McEvoy, Roughead*, Pyke, Leuey, Jacobs, Kreuezer, Maric, Hale*, Giles, Bellchambers, Jenkins*, Ryder*, Nic Nat*, Mummy, Lobbe, Blicavs*, Bailey.
Others of note include: Nicholls, Griffen, Smith, Simpson, Rowe and Sandi.
*2013 DPP
A fit and firing Nic Nat would be a lock...will be relatively cheap with an average of 96.
Sandi has only played 2 games, named again this week, current ave of 52...will be in a lot of teams if he is up and about and cheap in 2014.
Minson, Goldy, Roughead(if DPP), Kreuezer are amongst the better set and forget options for next year....and maybe Leuenberger could be added to this list.
Personally I wouldn't touch McEvoy(not consistent enough), Jacobs(2013 form), Maric(2013 form) and I have question marks over a few of the others...Cox(age), Mummy(consistency and injury), Pyke(scoring consistency/ability to go big) and unproven/improving ruckmen such as Nicholls will be expensive and a bit of an unknown as to whether they can maintain a 100+ average.
My starting rucks could be: Minson, Sandi (rookie DPP, rookie) with fwd/ruck DPP in fwds or Goldy, Kreuzer (rookie, rookie)...
too early to tell but I will be interested to see how Sandi finishes the year and starts next year, beginning this weekend.
Nic Nat, Hmac lock and load.
I might start with Kreuzer and then HMac / Minson.
Quote from: Holzman on July 26, 2013, 11:51:33 AM
Quote from: enzedder on July 26, 2013, 11:32:33 AM
Don't think you can lock in any rucks...might be a year when they might be quite different team to team.
Top 20 rucks atm...in order of pts scored...Minson, Goldy, Cox*, McEvoy, Roughead*, Pyke, Leuey, Jacobs, Kreuezer, Maric, Hale*, Giles, Bellchambers, Jenkins*, Ryder*, Nic Nat*, Mummy, Lobbe, Blicavs*, Bailey.
Others of note include: Nicholls, Griffen, Smith, Simpson, Rowe and Sandi.
*2013 DPP
A fit and firing Nic Nat would be a lock...will be relatively cheap with an average of 96.
Sandi has only played 2 games, named again this week, current ave of 52...will be in a lot of teams if he is up and about and cheap in 2014.
Minson, Goldy, Roughead(if DPP), Kreuezer are amongst the better set and forget options for next year....and maybe Leuenberger could be added to this list.
Personally I wouldn't touch McEvoy(not consistent enough), Jacobs(2013 form), Maric(2013 form) and I have question marks over a few of the others...Cox(age), Mummy(consistency and injury), Pyke(scoring consistency/ability to go big) and unproven/improving ruckmen such as Nicholls will be expensive and a bit of an unknown as to whether they can maintain a 100+ average.
My starting rucks could be: Minson, Sandi (rookie DPP, rookie) with fwd/ruck DPP in fwds or Goldy, Kreuzer (rookie, rookie)...
too early to tell but I will be interested to see how Sandi finishes the year and starts next year, beginning this weekend.
Nic Nat, Hmac lock and load.
HMac is an interesting one. I saw him on the list at zero games and $495k...with Simpson bursting on the scene...88 hitouts last 2 games alone and Blicavs having a great debut season, Vardy losing his spot to injury and enough potency in Geelong's fwd half as it is I'm beginning to wonder if he'll get a gig in their best team...hasn't played since R7 last year.
HMac is a tough one having played so little games over such a long time. If he tears it up or shows some good in the preseason, I'll pick him up.
Brodie Grundy
Quote from: vinny on July 26, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
HMac is a tough one having played so little games over such a long time. If he tears it up or shows some good in the preseason, I'll pick him up.
becareful of preseason form a few of us learnt that this year aka KARNEZIS
Yeah haha and Zorko..
R. Sloane. Danger Fyfe Ablett Pendles
Quote from: sammy123 on July 29, 2013, 07:01:52 AM
Quote from: vinny on July 26, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
HMac is a tough one having played so little games over such a long time. If he tears it up or shows some good in the preseason, I'll pick him up.
becareful of preseason form a few of us learnt that this year aka KARNEZIS
Karnezis would be good, but Voss...
HMac always gets injured.. I'd get a more reliable ruck combo
my man T. Mac (Trent Mckenzie) :D
Quote from: sammy123 on July 29, 2013, 07:01:52 AM
Quote from: vinny on July 26, 2013, 05:28:37 PM
HMac is a tough one having played so little games over such a long time. If he tears it up or shows some good in the preseason, I'll pick him up.
becareful of preseason form a few of us learnt that this year aka KARNEZIS
Hmac is a proven player though he just needs to get out on the park.
Quote from: Holzman on July 29, 2013, 09:47:45 AM
Hmac is a proven player though he just needs to get out on the park.
And worst case you can just use him as a stepping stone if he does get injured mid year
Bulldogs looked surprisingly good last week. Few good up and comers in there too. That dollhouse kid looks promising.
After some more thinking for the hundredth time. :P
D- Walker Mitchell Hanley Mckenzie
M- Ablett Pendles Beams Jack Murphy
R- Kreuzer HMac
F- Rocky NicNat and Danger if DPP.
Not sure what that would cost roughly but would love to know.
Surely Charlie Dixon will be Fwd/Ruck dpp next year, would you pick him?
Quote from: Sydney14 on July 29, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
Surely Charlie Dixon will be Fwd/Ruck dpp next year, would you pick him?
For sure, as long as he isn't too pricey.
I love watching him play.
Quote from: Sydney14 on July 29, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
Surely Charlie Dixon will be Fwd/Ruck dpp next year, would you pick him?
All depends on price. He has missed a chunk of games, but like Waite last year, he might just play enough to not get an injury discount.
Quote from: Sydney14 on July 29, 2013, 06:01:47 PM
Surely Charlie Dixon will be Fwd/Ruck dpp next year, would you pick him?
He'll be Fwd/Ruck/Back
depending on how cheap H-mac is. May use him on bench to get lots of money and R4 can be a ruck/fwd
There has been a lot of talk about Prestia for 2014. Is anyone locking him in for sure ?
Bye structure will come into with Prestia. If Collingwood and GC have the same bye again, I want to try and get Gaz, Ablett and Beams, by getting in Prestia as well early in the season it will hinder me. Also if Martin is a mid rookie I will be starting with him, assuming that he is going to get games. Lonergan is the other guy to look at for GC, only played a few games this year, so he might be pretty cheap and a good rookie alternative.
Also to add something, salary cap will come into the equation.This year I started with 4 premium mids, 1 mid priced option in Moloney and the rest was rookies. A couple of them were bottom end premium priced players in Jack and Murphy, assuming I am going to spread my cash around the same, it is going to be difficult to get all these guys into my starting lineup. I would rather pass on Prestia at this point
Quote from: vinny on July 29, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
There has been a lot of talk about Prestia for 2014. Is anyone locking him in for sure ?
He along with Libba and Steven might get a look in, in a few teams, very risky though, went for a bit more of a risk this year and it didn't pay off at all, so i've decided to go the full Premo's/Rookies strategy for next year (Excluding maybe a discounted Suckers or H-Mac)
These is how i imagine my team shaping up like:
Walker, Mitchell, McVeigh/Simpson, Suckers
Ablett, Pendles, Beams, Cotchin/Murphy, Jack
NicNat, H-Mac
Rocky, Danger, Wingard
Haha Hawkers almost identical to mine and as a Blues supporter was seriously looking at Simpson but could age get to the man.
Hmm Yes Matt- What premium structure will people look at starting with next year ?
Hawkers lineup is pretty similar to what I also want. Murphy should roughly be the same price that Mundy was last year
It depends where the strength is in rookies and mid priced players.
This year I went with
2 defenders over 500k (Goddard/Gibbs) 1 high 300's (Hibberd), 1 bottom range mid priced player (Russell) and rookies
2 top end premiums (Ablett and Pendles, who I initially had as Beams), 2 lower end premiums (Jack and Murphy), 1 mid pricer (Moloney) and then the rest were rookies, but I had two of the more expensive ones in Stevens and Wines
Both my rucks were under 500k, I started with Goldstein and Berger, Rowe and Blicavs my rookies
Forwards I loaded up a bit in case of emergency with Berger, Cox, Rockliff, Zorko, Bartel were my premium priced players, JJK, Karnezis and Byrnes my mid priced guys and Caff my only rookie. Byrnes was traded out pretty quickly for Dwyer when I knew Berger was safe and that Dwyer was getting games.
Next season I am thinking something similar, 2 stable defenders (possibly Walker and Mitchell if they get DPP), a mid priced player (Suckling) and then rookies. 4 top end mids most likely, Pendles Beams, Ablett and Jack again, the mid priced player in Murphy as he will be sub 500k and then rookies. I will try and save cash in the ruck again, forwards if Danger is available he is a lock, Wingard and I will get a mid priced player like Tex.
Structure will all depend on the strength of the rookies. If the forward rookies are strong, I will either take an extra premium defender or spread the cash between the positions and maybe take a more expensive ruck and a more expensive mid for example.
Ill have 3 premo backs. 5 mids. 2 ruck. 4 fwd. going for the best players not the cheap
Yeah very good points Matt.
Wow Jack was a good pick.
I myself am not too keen on mid-prices. Any possible good ones next year ?
Also Tommy Boyd. Will be at around 190k. Will as many lock him in ?
I think there is a very solid amount of quality rookies coming through next year. Just hope they get games.
Quote from: Jackross10 on July 29, 2013, 10:14:45 PM
Ill have 3 premo backs. 5 mids. 2 ruck. 4 fwd. going for the best players not the cheap
Looking at this too. Except HMac in the rucks who won't be at premo price. Unless there is a freak mid-pricer - Staying well away.
Allows for the best of the best premiums.
I can see Walker being the JJK of next year, Murphy will be a more expensive mid priced player, add in Clay Beams and Dale Thomas who could be ok picks for their prices, Griffin at the Dockers depending what happens with Sandilands next year, HMac, Chappy is risky if he goes round again but could be worth it, Menzel will be rookie priced but it depends on his knee, same with Morabito, there are probably a couple of others as well.
There are also a few guys that could have breakout seasons like for example Hibberd did this year. Hibberd was priced under 400k and he is currently the number 3 defender in overall points this season. Goldstein was under 500k and has scored the 5th most points of any player this season. For those that started with Jacobs this season, it might sound ridiculous, but if he is priced at 450k he could be worth starting the season with. He is still young and Goldstein had a down season last year before bouncing back.
Quote from: vinny on July 29, 2013, 09:35:55 PM
There has been a lot of talk about Prestia for 2014. Is anyone locking him in for sure ?
It'll depend on who else I get, but I'm definitely pencilling him in.
Yeah for many it depends what Tex is priced at but hopefully he can have a good year.
Quote from: vinny on July 30, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
Yeah for many it depends what Tex is priced at but hopefully he can have a good year.
I think he will be too expensive to be an option for next year. Played 5 games for an average of 70, so may end up being like LeCras this year with most shying away due to him being a little pricey.
Quote from: hawkers65 on July 30, 2013, 07:43:07 AM
Quote from: vinny on July 30, 2013, 07:34:03 AM
Yeah for many it depends what Tex is priced at but hopefully he can have a good year.
I think he will be too expensive to be an option for next year. Played 5 games for an average of 70, so may end up being like LeCras this year with most shying away due to him being a little pricey.
Potential to average 100+ though whereas Lecras was never going to average 100
Does anyone have a rough idea on how the injury discount works ?
What does it depend on ?
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 29, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
I can see Walker being the JJK of next year, Murphy will be a more expensive mid priced player, add in Clay Beams and Dale Thomas who could be ok picks for their prices, Griffin at the Dockers depending what happens with Sandilands next year, HMac, Chappy is risky if he goes round again but could be worth it, Menzel will be rookie priced but it depends on his knee, same with Morabito, there are probably a couple of others as well.
Will be interesting to see what position Dale Thomas is given next year. He did play half-back for those few games between his injuries, however probably not enough to be given MID-DEF DPP.
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 29, 2013, 10:29:06 PM
There are also a few guys that could have breakout seasons like for example Hibberd did this year. Hibberd was priced under 400k and he is currently the number 3 defender in overall points this season. Goldstein was under 500k and has scored the 5th most points of any player this season. For those that started with Jacobs this season, it might sound ridiculous, but if he is priced at 450k he could be worth starting the season with. He is still young and Goldstein had a down season last year before bouncing back.
Goldstein's down year was mainly due to H-MAC stealing his game time. Jacobs hasn't had that issue this season it's just been his form. Although he has proven he can average 100+ so you never know ;)
Quote from: vinny on July 30, 2013, 10:19:19 AM
Does anyone have a rough idea on how the injury discount works ?
What does it depend on ?
Players are priced at what they averaged the year before, but if they missed games the year before then they get a certain discount. I'm not sure on the exact discount but I know you have to miss most of they year to get a discount. It varies from about 40% to 10%.
Quote from: vinny on July 30, 2013, 10:19:19 AM
Does anyone have a rough idea on how the injury discount works ?
What does it depend on ?
Does depend on the player, we all remember thinking Lecca would be under 300k, but CD had a different opinion, cheating us again yes, but was fair to everyone! So, with a guy like Taylor frogging Walker? Who knows how much discount he will get? ???
Honestly, they make it up sometimes!
Alright thanks fellas ! Hope his cheap enough.
Anyone remember Mitch Thorp? Been dominating in Tassie and may be drafted again. For anyone who doesn't know who he is, he's the guy the Hawks drafted at #6 ahead of Jelwood. If he gets drafted he should get games and be a good rookie forward choice. Nt sure about a lock as yet, but I think he's one to keep an eye and see where he gets drafted.
Quote from: JROO8 on July 30, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
Anyone remember Mitch Thorp? Been dominating in Tassie and may be drafted again. For anyone who doesn't know who he is, he's the guy the Hawks drafted at #6 ahead of Jelwood. If he gets drafted he should get games and be a good rookie forward choice. Nt sure about a lock as yet, but I think he's one to keep an eye and see where he gets drafted.
Yeah I remember him, if he is drafted to a lower ranked club, he should see some games and stand up with his mature body, a bit like how Terlich has.
they way jpk has been scoring. Could be a low price next year. Could be a tempting mid pricer who scorez premo scores
Quote from: Rusty00 on July 30, 2013, 10:29:49 AM
Will be interesting to see what position Dale Thomas is given next year. He did play half-back for those few games between his injuries, however probably not enough to be given MID-DEF DPP.
Goldstein's down year was mainly due to H-MAC stealing his game time. Jacobs hasn't had that issue this season it's just been his form. Although he has proven he can average 100+ so you never know ;)
Agree, if Thomas has back DPP he might be an intersting pick up. His average may not have put him in the best 10 forwards, but it could in the back half.
Also Goldstein was coming off an injury and horribly out of form. North actually dropped him and they were using HMac as a forward early, when Goldstein was struggling they dropped him. He also struggled to recapture form when McIntosh got injured. Sauce's age works in his favor, and if he is cheap enough he very well might be worth the risk.
Quote from: JROO8 on July 30, 2013, 08:24:25 PM
Anyone remember Mitch Thorp? Been dominating in Tassie and may be drafted again. For anyone who doesn't know who he is, he's the guy the Hawks drafted at #6 ahead of Jelwood. If he gets drafted he should get games and be a good rookie forward choice. Nt sure about a lock as yet, but I think he's one to keep an eye and see where he gets drafted.
He had attitude problems at the Hawks from what I remember. If he has matured I can see a team giving him a shot, but if he still has character issues, teams will pass regardless of the talent.
Not sure if he's been mentioned but what about Patton? Only played 3 games this year so should have a hefty discount and could be a possible f6?
One guy I was thinking about a couple of weeks ago but depends on price and DPP is Wellingham. He has missed a lot of games this year and had some low scores due to injury
couple other worthy of rookie starts Kurt Heatherley and shem tatupu.
Hmm Wellingham could be a very good pick up, if he continues to play in the midfield and keeps DPP.
After today I am going to start with Griffen and Jack!
If Chad Wingard is a MID/FWD, I suspect he'll be in a lot of teams next year. Gun.
Throw away the key on Wingard LOCK
Quote from: JROO8 on August 04, 2013, 06:18:13 PM
If Chad Wingard is a MID/FWD, I suspect he'll be in a lot of teams next year. Gun.
If he is a MID/FWD I'd be inclined to agree. Played every game. Worst scores are 3 in the 70s. Consistently good. Sometimes brilliant.
Quote from: Noz on July 11, 2013, 07:33:39 PM
Wingard + Tom Boyd + Jack Martin + O'Meara + Tom Mitchell + Auto Select = Recipe for Success
Crouchy can have a spot in that all studded midfield next year
Wingard will also be the first ever man to reach the $1 million price tag with an average of 190 super coach points
Martin to have the highest price rise in super coach history, reaching the $500,000 mark in 4 games
Boyd to have scored the highest supercoach score in history in his first game by kicking 19 goals
Mitchell to average 40 touches and 150 super coach points and become the second man to hit $1 million
O'Meara and Crouch to both reach new heights and average 130 each for the year
Follow my success and the car is yours.
DEF: Mitchell, Walker, Swallow, Suckling
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Dangerfield, Murphy, J.Martin
RUC: McIntosh
FWD: Wingard, Walker, Hogan
*DPP providing*
DEF: Hanley, Mitchell, Suckling
MID: GAJ, Reddan, JOM, Griffen, Jellwood, Aish
RUCK: Luey
FWD: Danger, Rocky, Wingard, Tex, SAM MAYES, Hogan
No Pendles Nrich ? Interesting with JOM for the second year. :P
What do people think about Kreuzer in the rucks with HMac and Naitanui up forward.
Will Kreuzer smash it next year or do a Jacobs ? Similar thing with Goldy and Minson. Not sure they can do two in a row.
No reason JOM can't do a Fyfe.
All I can say is I am that excited for next year
JOM will be awesome. I don't like Pendles. Beams should be on that list though. Tbh I dont like Kruezer. Minson should be good though.
Fair enough. Yeah many will have a tough choice choosing rucks. I am looking at Leuy too
Anyone considering Shaun Higgins? :P
Should be cheap.
not even if you paid me JROO :P
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2013, 01:42:16 PM
Anyone considering Shaun Higgins? :P
Should be cheap.
Never again since 2010 I think.. Unbelievable!
No thanks JRoo
Hahah, I was expecting a response like that.
I'll like to see what he's priced and if he does well in the NAB Cup I'd consider him :o
Quote from: JROO8 on August 11, 2013, 02:33:31 PM
Hahah, I was expecting a response like that.
I'll like to see what he's priced and if he does well in the NAB Cup I'd consider him :o
:o Wow :o
Any one considering Wellingham if he is a Fwd next year?
Quote from: Samsturmfels on August 11, 2013, 02:56:18 PM
Any one considering Wellingham if he is a Fwd next year?
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 03, 2013, 07:47:19 PM
One guy I was thinking about a couple of weeks ago but depends on price and DPP is Wellingham. He has missed a lot of games this year and had some low scores due to injury
Looking like a lock right now
He is smashing it!
If I had one last trade...Wellingham for Zorko.
Looking at Rory Sloane still !
One to consider for sure. Had an awesome game today !
Yes, Sloane is maturing nicely and could/should make my team as a POD next year.
Heart says Ryan Bastinac....head says I've gone insane already
Sloanes score was a one off. He's not generally a big scorer, nor is he consistent enough. Has only broke the ton in like half of his games, don't want that from my mids.
Quote from: quinny88 on August 13, 2013, 04:38:42 PM
Sloanes score was a one off. He's not generally a big scorer, nor is he consistent enough. Has only broke the ton in like half of his games, don't want that from my mids.
I got flowering JPK!!!
Haha most people do Lez. I am one of the idiots who still have Zorko. He can't even tonne in one game ! :(
Quote from: vinny on August 13, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
Haha most people do Lez. I am one of the idiots who still have Zorko. He can't even tonne in one game ! :(
So many folks will be put off Zorko for life but I got rid of him straight away and made 200 K and got Buddy soon after. So he may well be a good POD next season!
Quote from: roo boys! on August 12, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Heart says Ryan Bastinac....head says I've gone insane already
I'm thinking exactly the same RB! But not sure if its just my roos bias??
He has shown a lot of improvement this year and with the young kangas having another year under there belt and an easier draw hopefully bastinac can step up in swallows absence!!!
Get on the Brisbane players with Vossy gone, no more players out of position :P
Quote from: ubeaut on August 13, 2013, 06:02:28 PM
Quote from: vinny on August 13, 2013, 05:37:43 PM
Haha most people do Lez. I am one of the idiots who still have Zorko. He can't even tonne in one game ! :(
So many folks will be put off Zorko for life but I got rid of him straight away and made 200 K and got Buddy soon after. So he may well be a good POD next season!
With Voss gone, who knows what will happen with the Zork.
Quote from: monga77 on August 13, 2013, 06:11:54 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 12, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Heart says Ryan Bastinac....head says I've gone insane already
I'm thinking exactly the same RB! But not sure if its just my roos bias??
He has shown a lot of improvement this year and with the young kangas having another year under there belt and an easier draw hopefully bastinac can step up in swallows absence!!!
Yeah I think it's just my Roos bias or more specifically my Bastinac bias. Makes sense to have the bloke on the back of your jumper in your SC team doesn't it?
Has been in sensational form in the second half of the year so inflating his price dramatically...if he's over 500k I'm sorry Basti but there's better options. Under 500k I'll consider strongly.
All Briabane players :P 8)
Quote from: nrich102 on August 13, 2013, 06:34:40 PM
All Briabane players :P 8)
Haha. If Rocky is a forward, them I'm locking him in.
Mathew Wright could be a good buy
Sam Docherty.
Aaron Sandilands
Quote from: Holzman on August 20, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
Sam Docherty.
Aaron Sandilands
You think Sandilands will be able to play some consecutive games, let alone a full year?
Docherty could really flourish next year though if given the opportunities.
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 20, 2013, 12:08:09 PM
Quote from: Holzman on August 20, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
Sam Docherty.
Aaron Sandilands
You think Sandilands will be able to play some consecutive games, let alone a full year?
Docherty could really flourish next year though if given the opportunities.
docherty i would lock in a 75, probably not enough to pick him, but if he can go low 80s than might be worth a look.
Sandi is averaing 62, even if they dont give him an injury discount. He could skyrocket up in value considering he went 110+ the last 3 years.
maybee worth a sneakly look if you have DPP cover or even R3.
I'm just going to print out every post 'Jason' (stalking you!!!) has made this year and buy a big boat with my winnings next year.
Docherty is averaging 74 for this year with games not sub effected - (has had the Green vest 6 times and Red 1 this year).
Quote from: tor01doc on August 20, 2013, 12:36:59 PM
I'm just going to print out every post 'Jason' (stalking you!!!) has made this year and buy a big boat with my winnings next year.
i think this is a once in a lifetime event, i doubt i will ever do this well again. I have only 3 rules though
1. trade hard and trade early
2. go for players with risk of injury who you know will score well if fit over guys with risk of scoring but are safe injury wise
3. If i guy is failing drop him ASAP, dont wait for a form turnaround. I dropped stants after 2 weks, yarran after 2, Longer after 1, zorks after 3.
I dropped Yarran and he then scored 131!
I grabbed Boomer and since then 43 and 72 - little piece of.....never again list!
Quote from: tor01doc on August 20, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
I dropped Yarran and he then scored 131!
I grabbed Boomer and since then 43 and 72 - little piece of.....never again list!
actually on that note.
Yarran might be one too look at, if he moves. The guy can score. Unfortunately for me he scored 52 and 2 and has cost me huge.
Now that Voss is gone, Tom Rockliff is a certain lock in for me! ;D
Won't be taking many big risks and will leave the "break-out players" as upgrade targets.
Only risk I guess you could say is Wellingham. 500% lock. :P
Quote from: Holzman on August 20, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
Sam Docherty.
+10000000
Dockers shouldn't have the vest to often now with voss gone :)
Team
Hanley, Docherty, Suckling, Sam Mitchell, Premo, rooks
Beams, GAJ, Reddan, JOM, Jelwood, Griffen, Aish, Jack Martin, rooks
Luey, Sam Michael
Rocky, Dangerfield, Sam Mayes, Wingard, Tex, Hogan, rooks
7 Lions players 8)
Quote from: nrich102 on August 21, 2013, 07:04:56 AM
Quote from: Holzman on August 20, 2013, 11:50:53 AM
Sam Docherty.
+10000000
Dockers shouldn't have the vest to often now with voss gone :)
Team
Hanley, Docherty, Suckling, Sam Mitchell, Premo, rooks
Beams, GAJ, Reddan, JOM, Jelwood, Griffen, Aish, Jack Martin, rooks
Luey, Sam Michael
Rocky, Dangerfield, Sam Mayes, Wingard, Tex, Hogan, rooks
7 Lions players 8)
Lol what a shower house team.
Hanley, Walker, Suckling, Rooks
Pendles, Beams, Selwood, Barlow
Leuenberger, Goldstein
Dangerfield, Rockliff, Wingard, Tex, Hogan, Rooks
Bit reluctant on the ageing Gaz, has only gone over 120 once post bye, will definitely need another premo mid in there, really depends on pricing for me.
If Brandon Ellis is a defender then I'm locking him in. He'll priced at an average of 78, so he's not too expensive.
But he my be a mid only, as he's played on a wing all year.
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2013, 09:30:25 AM
If Brandon Ellis is a defender then I'm locking him in. He'll priced at an average of 78, so he's not too expensive.
But he my be a mid only, as he's played on a wing all year.
of course! Gut tells me he'll be a mid only though,
JR008 where does Conca fit in a fully healthy Tigers team? You boys have a lot of mids.
Hanley, Simpson, Suckling, Hibberd, L.McDonald
Cotchin, Pendles, Selwood, Beams, J.Watson, J.Martin
Hmac, Sandi
Rioli, Rocky, M.Clark, Hogan
Quote from: specky92 on August 21, 2013, 09:38:56 AM
Quote from: JROO8 on August 21, 2013, 09:30:25 AM
If Brandon Ellis is a defender then I'm locking him in. He'll priced at an average of 78, so he's not too expensive.
But he my be a mid only, as he's played on a wing all year.
of course! Gut tells me he'll be a mid only though,
Me too :(
Quote from: Ricochet on August 21, 2013, 09:40:39 AM
JR008 where does Conca fit in a fully healthy Tigers team? You boys have a lot of mids.
I love Conca he's a gun and IMO he's just behind Lids, Cotch and Dusty now in our mid.
He is going to get a lot of time on the ball and next year he could have a break out year.
Brodie Grundy?
I haven't read through all 20 pages to see if anyone has already mentioned, but he is looking the goods and should hopefully not be too expensive.
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on August 21, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
Brodie Grundy?
I haven't read through all 20 pages to see if anyone has already mentioned, but he is looking the goods and should hopefully not be too expensive.
definitely would have a look, has good ground work for a big guy and loves a 2nd and 3rd effort!
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on August 21, 2013, 10:15:16 AM
Brodie Grundy?
I haven't read through all 20 pages to see if anyone has already mentioned, but he is looking the goods and should hopefully not be too expensive.
he will be priced as a 80 average player. Hmac and Sandi will be cheaper if you want to go down the cheap ruck option.
Rough team -
Def - Goddard, Hanley, Hartlett, Suckling/Ellis/Young, Rookie x 4
Goddard as the standard premium, hanley and harlett as the improving premiums, suckling, young or ellis or as decent mid priced options (young should be classified a back next year and has 2 games at an ave of 50 this!), and rookies. Would also consider Heppell but think he will be mid only next year.
Mid - Pendles, Cotchin, Danger, Jack, Murhpy/Rich, Rookies x 5
Pendles picks himself, cotchin/danger/jack all very good premiums this year but each with the ability to improve 5-10points a game next year with a better run with injury/form. Muprhy or Rich as a cheaper premium option perhaps, or just go GAJ/Swan for an extra premium. Don't think GAJ/Swan has much room for improvement but will probably end up with at least one in my side. 5 rookies to fill the rest of the spots.
Rk - Goldy, Hmac/Sandi 2x rookies
Perhaps Goldy as number 1 ruck, have to look at hmac/sandi as the second cheaper option, a lot depending on who is fit. Then rookies.
Fwd - Franklin, Rockliff, Nic Nat Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark, 3xRookies.
Probably the hardest line, less great premiums, more tempting mid-pricers but also room to save some cash. Franklin can only improve on this year, Rockliff if still a fwd, Nic Nat should be a lot better next year. Look at picking about 2 of Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark all returning from injury will be cheap and all with the potential to average 90-100. 3 spots for rookies.
Quote from: dmac07 on August 21, 2013, 01:51:45 PM
Rough team -
Def - Goddard, Hanley, Hartlett, Suckling/Ellis/Young, Rookie x 4
Goddard as the standard premium, hanley and harlett as the improving premiums, suckling, young or ellis or as decent mid priced options (young should be classified a back next year and has 2 games at an ave of 50 this!), and rookies. Would also consider Heppell but think he will be mid only next year.
Mid - Pendles, Cotchin, Danger, Jack, Murhpy/Rich, Rookies x 5
Pendles picks himself, cotchin/danger/jack all very good premiums this year but each with the ability to improve 5-10points a game next year with a better run with injury/form. Muprhy or Rich as a cheaper premium option perhaps, or just go GAJ/Swan for an extra premium. Don't think GAJ/Swan has much room for improvement but will probably end up with at least one in my side. 5 rookies to fill the rest of the spots.
Rk - Goldy, Hmac/Sandi 2x rookies
Perhaps Goldy as number 1 ruck, have to look at hmac/sandi as the second cheaper option, a lot depending on who is fit. Then rookies.
Fwd - Franklin, Rockliff, Nic Nat Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark, 3xRookies.
Probably the hardest line, less great premiums, more tempting mid-pricers but also room to save some cash. Franklin can only improve on this year, Rockliff if still a fwd, Nic Nat should be a lot better next year. Look at picking about 2 of Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark all returning from injury will be cheap and all with the potential to average 90-100. 3 spots for rookies.
Nice but after this year I would question the selection of...
Hartlett - just read the abuse he cops game day and look at his worst! He will be $50000 more than Gibbs too.
Young - Hawk turned Pie? Injury prone.
Cotchin - has let a lot down this year. Promises, promises. Also gets knocked around a bit. Not keen on Griffen, Beams or Watson?
Rucktion roulette? Can't argue with those but HMac worries me.
Buddy - hmmmm. Worried about him. Clark too.
A lot to like but a few I would query.
Good luck.
Quote from: tor01doc on August 21, 2013, 03:02:23 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on August 21, 2013, 01:51:45 PM
Rough team -
Def - Goddard, Hanley, Hartlett, Suckling/Ellis/Young, Rookie x 4
Goddard as the standard premium, hanley and harlett as the improving premiums, suckling, young or ellis or as decent mid priced options (young should be classified a back next year and has 2 games at an ave of 50 this!), and rookies. Would also consider Heppell but think he will be mid only next year.
Mid - Pendles, Cotchin, Danger, Jack, Murhpy/Rich, Rookies x 5
Pendles picks himself, cotchin/danger/jack all very good premiums this year but each with the ability to improve 5-10points a game next year with a better run with injury/form. Muprhy or Rich as a cheaper premium option perhaps, or just go GAJ/Swan for an extra premium. Don't think GAJ/Swan has much room for improvement but will probably end up with at least one in my side. 5 rookies to fill the rest of the spots.
Rk - Goldy, Hmac/Sandi 2x rookies
Perhaps Goldy as number 1 ruck, have to look at hmac/sandi as the second cheaper option, a lot depending on who is fit. Then rookies.
Fwd - Franklin, Rockliff, Nic Nat Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark, 3xRookies.
Probably the hardest line, less great premiums, more tempting mid-pricers but also room to save some cash. Franklin can only improve on this year, Rockliff if still a fwd, Nic Nat should be a lot better next year. Look at picking about 2 of Bock/Daisy/Wellingham/Clark all returning from injury will be cheap and all with the potential to average 90-100. 3 spots for rookies.
Nice but after this year I would question the selection of...
Hartlett - just read the abuse he cops game day and look at his worst! He will be $50000 more than Gibbs too.
Young - Hawk turned Pie? Injury prone.
Cotchin - has let a lot down this year. Promises, promises. Also gets knocked around a bit. Not keen on Griffen, Beams or Watson?
Rucktion roulette? Can't argue with those but HMac worries me.
Buddy - hmmmm. Worried about him. Clark too.
A lot to like but a few I would query.
Good luck.
Will Goddard be classified as a defender next season? I thought that he'd played predominantly though the midfield/wing this season but maybe I haven't been paying close enough attention?
If Goddard is mid then S Mitchell will be a defender so he is a lock for me.
If Jolly retires then Grundy could be a steal as Collingwood's #1 ruck option! Only worry is Witts perhaps coming in to give him a chop out which might decrease his output.
I always have a look at players who look like switching roles due to other players leaving the club (not the players who DO leave). Same goes when players return from injury etc. EG. Players who switched clubs this year didn't do much (Young & Russell spring to mind from a Pies POV)
NicNat if fit will be a lock, and should be discounted.
If Marc Murphy could ever shake a tag he would be good.
JPK should step back up a bit.
Danger/Cotchin/Beams are safe picks and should rise a fair bit. (Cotchin has had a shocking year and still averaged well)
One of the GWS/GCS kids i'll be picking as a prem mid too, they'll be winning games and picking up points. IE Bennell/Prestia from GCS.
I will almost defintely be avoiding GAJ as a starter in my team, and will look to bring him in down the track. Might sound blasphemous but I can see him sticking forward and dropping his output to 110-115. Still very handy and will go massive at times, but consistency will be the key.
+ A player like Dahlhaus/Christensen could explode as well, and i'll definitely pick one if a gun retires or leaves around them (Think Cooney/Cross or Corey etc)
Quick think about it, and this is my rough idea.
Def - Goddard, Hanley, Mitchell, Suckling + 4 rookies.
Mids- Pendles, Selwood, Watson, Danger, Griffen + 5 rookies.
Rucks - Sandi, HMac + 2 rookies.
Fwds- Buddy, Rocky, Nic Nat, Daisy + 4 rookies.
Like that _wato
Great defence
Top mids
Rucks - hmmmm - Goldy looks the business at R1
Daisy? I'll wait and see where Mick plays him. ;)
Gibbs, Birchall, Hanley, A Walker
GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Jelwood, Jack
Minson, Goldy
Wingard, Rocky, T Walker
Something like that
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
Gibbs, Birchall, Hanley, A Walker
GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Jelwood, Jack
Minson, Goldy
Wingard, Rocky, T Walker
Something like that
I'd forgotten about A Walker as a defender.
Birchall over a discounted Suckling pig? I reckon 12 topline premiums will be all you can afford with a couple of discounted guys and rookies for the rest.
After this year, I reckon my defence might be 2 premiums and a mix to stock up elsewhere with more reliable scorers.
I like Wingard too.
Quote from: tor01doc on August 21, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Like that _wato
Great defence
Top mids
Rucks - hmmmm - Goldy looks the business at R1
Daisy? I'll wait and see where Mick plays him. ;)
Cheers mate! Wanted to get the best possible in those lines, as defence is so unpredictable, and Mids you want the all out stars at the start.
Yes, am not sold on the rucks.. Thought about Goldy, but surely Currie will have to get a look in sometime next year? Think Goldy will be managed better next year and a lot of the time rucks don't produce two good years in a row. Maybe 18-20 games for Goldy not 22? Or 85-90% game time, not 95+?
I also contemplated Leuey and Jacobs? Leuey an absolute star of the future, could break out, and Jacobs a bad year, but showed us what he can ever age before that.
Daisy.. Hahah, wouldn't surprise me if he ended up there! Could come off a HBF and rotate with Walker up forward? If he's at Carlton.
If not, would fit well of half back rotating through the centre or wing with Clinton Young, wouldn't mind that.
If he plays a full year he'll average around 100-105. Good enough for me.
Quote from: tor01doc on August 21, 2013, 04:21:14 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on August 21, 2013, 04:15:46 PM
Gibbs, Birchall, Hanley, A Walker
GAJ, Pendles, Beams, Jelwood, Jack
Minson, Goldy
Wingard, Rocky, T Walker
Something like that
I'd forgotten about A Walker as a defender.
Birchall over a discounted Suckling pig? I reckon 12 topline premiums will be all you can afford with a couple of discounted guys and rookies for the rest.
After this year, I reckon my defence might be 2 premiums and a mix to stock up elsewhere with more reliable scorers.
I like Wingard too.
Worried what this injury will do to Suckling's kicking ability Birchall should be like 450k I think
Quote from: _wato on August 21, 2013, 04:21:31 PM
Daisy.. Hahah, wouldn't surprise me if he ended up there! Could come off a HBF and rotate with Walker up forward? If he's at Carlton.
If not, would fit well of half back rotating through the centre or wing with Clinton Young, wouldn't mind that.
If he plays a full year he'll average around 100-105. Good enough for me.
I think the "playing a full year" is the issue with Daisy given there is a chance he may be out for 9 months with his ankle operation.
Walker Simpson/Hanley Mitchell Suckling
Ablett Pendles Selwood Beams Cotchin
NicNat Kreuzer
Danger Rocky Wingard Wellingham
Something like this. :)
I thought you'd be more
Walker, Carrazzo, Gibbs, Simpson
Murphy, Judd, Buckley
Krooz, Rowe
Casboult, Betts
vinny!
Hahaha.
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
Joel Selwood is a lock for me, while I'll be considering his brother Scott.
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
I think this quiet patch he's having now will make me likely to pick him next season. His average has gone down 9 points the last 4 weeks (coincidently 9 points lower than his 2012 average as well) meaning he may well start a bit cheaper next season than he otherwise would have been.
Of course there's a lot of water under the bridge before the start of next season ;)
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
Sure am Vinny, but he'll certainly be an upgrade target, one of the first I make.
I just think with Prestia, Bennell, O'Meara, Swallow, Matera, Martin all capable to run through the middle, I think they could look to develop their youngsters further and that means we could see little Gaz spending a whole lot more time forward. This could mean we could see a little bit more of the low 100 scores with more inconcistency. He should still average around 115-125 however, but his starting price will make him a little bit of a turn off.
I think Pendles will become the #1 SC player next year.
He's ready to take the uptimate step!
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
I think these quiet scores are a good thing. Making him a nicer price for next year ;)
Quote from: quinny88 on August 21, 2013, 08:34:33 PM
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
I think these quiet scores are a good thing. Making him a nicer price for next year ;)
Only slightly though, his average is still HUGE! :P
Quote from: _wato on August 21, 2013, 07:11:28 PM
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
Sure am Vinny, but he'll certainly be an upgrade target, one of the first I make.
I just think with Prestia, Bennell, O'Meara, Swallow, Matera, Martin all capable to run through the middle, I think they could look to develop their youngsters further and that means we could see little Gaz spending a whole lot more time forward. This could mean we could see a little bit more of the low 100 scores with more inconcistency. He should still average around 115-125 however, but his starting price will make him a little bit of a turn off.
I think Pendles will become the #1 SC player next year.
He's ready to take the uptimate step!
Hmm interesting Wato! Will be curious to see what his owned by % will be come next year.
Maybe don't start with him and then wait until he drops and pick him up.
Haha just thought of starting without him seems fked :o
Quote from: tor01doc on August 21, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Like that _wato
Great defence
Top mids
Rucks - hmmmm - Goldy looks the business at R1
Daisy? I'll wait and see where Mick plays him. ;)
Oh god no, he can stay at the scum
Quote from: vinny on August 21, 2013, 05:26:34 PM
Are people actually considering starting without Ablett or?
What are your thoughts? Playing injured, just having a under-par patch etc.
He will be 30 next year so you would have to expect a drop off at some point. Depending how soft his draw is early I might get him, but he might be worth considering as an upgrade target next year. Eventually age will get the best of everyone.
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 21, 2013, 10:27:16 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on August 21, 2013, 04:09:15 PM
Like that _wato
Great defence
Top mids
Rucks - hmmmm - Goldy looks the business at R1
Daisy? I'll wait and see where Mick plays him. ;)
Oh god no, he can stay at the scum
Not a fan of Daisy I take it? ;)
Ill lock in the veterans!! Malceski and Boris, Okeefe and harvey
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 22, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
Not a fan of Daisy I take it? ;)
No, especially if they want to pay him upwards of 600k a season ::)
Quote from: Mat0369 on August 22, 2013, 07:53:17 PM
Quote from: Rusty00 on August 22, 2013, 10:37:12 AM
Not a fan of Daisy I take it? ;)
No, especially if they want to pay him upwards of 600k a season ::)
Yeah heard that on Footy Classified! What a joke hahah, I don't mind him but wow 600k when we are lacking a tall gun forward.
Can I ask why so much love for Gibbs?? Since this bye has been ordinary. Not for me.
Back: Goddard, Hanley
Mid: Gaz, Pendles, Beams
ruck: Leuy, Goldy
Fwd: SJ, Dusty, Rocky
Dusty and Stevie J will almost definitely lose dpp, Goddard a chance to keep it
Quote from: specky92 on August 23, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Dusty and Stevie J will almost definitely lose dpp, Goddard a chance to keep it
Stevie J will lose it, while Dusty will keep his. He's still playedup forward this year.
Really hoping that Rockliff keeps his DPP. Last 6 weeks or however long he has been in the mids, he has been insane. Backed it up again this week.
Quote from: GoLions16 on August 25, 2013, 07:50:58 PM
Really hoping that Rockliff keeps his DPP. Last 6 weeks or however long he has been in the mids, he has been insane. Backed it up again this week.
Not sure he will, but if he does he's a LOCK 8)
Thoughts on Motlop? :o
Has the ability to kick big bags, but also rack it up through the middle. Has a 5rnd average 0f 113! Should be a handy DPP, i'm likely to be very tempted next year!
No one is a lock in at this stage but can see my team having
D: McVeigh, Mitchell, Walker, Suckling
M: Pendlebury, Morabito
F: Tex, Martin, Daisy, Hogan
8)
D: Goddard, Hanley and Walker, Bartel (both could get DEF)
M: Pendles, Griffen, Selwood - possibly Jack Steven, Libba
- with a few of the old timers moving on, think i'll start with Jack Steven and Libba, pretty consisant and just getting better (thoughts?)
R: Leuy
F: Rocky, Martin, Daisy, Hogan
Goddard will be a mid next year
Quote from: specky92 on August 23, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Dusty and Stevie J will almost definitely lose dpp, Goddard a chance to keep it
Martin is more chance than any of those to keep his dpp. He starts almost every game inside 50
Quote from: TeeJay on August 26, 2013, 02:03:06 AM
Quote from: specky92 on August 23, 2013, 03:38:17 PM
Dusty and Stevie J will almost definitely lose dpp, Goddard a chance to keep it
Martin is more chance than any of those to keep his dpp. He starts almost every game inside 50
Martin WILL keep his DPP.
Quote from: TeeJay on August 25, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
No one is a lock in at this stage but can see my team having
D: McVeigh, Mitchell, Walker, Suckling
M: Pendlebury, Morabito
F: Tex, Martin, Daisy, Hogan
suckling will obviously be named as a back but if the other 3 are named as backs then just lock and load that quartet .... i like this to start
no idea why people are picking gibbs :/
DEF: goddard, hanley, suckling
MID: danger, beams, j martin
RUC: kreuzer
FOR: dusty, rocky, tex, hogan
Yeah Gibbs wont be a defender next year either I don't think.
Quote from: eaglesman on August 26, 2013, 09:34:02 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on August 25, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
No one is a lock in at this stage but can see my team having
D: McVeigh, Mitchell, Walker, Suckling
M: Pendlebury, Morabito
F: Tex, Martin, Daisy, Hogan
suckling will obviously be named as a back but if the other 3 are named as backs then just lock and load that quartet .... i like this to start
no idea why people are picking gibbs :/
Yeah agreed. Mcveigh and Walker will definitely be backs but Mitchel maybe not. Another one from left field that I will strongly consider is Nick Dal Santo. Has played across half back the whole second half of the season and has scored really well there
Walker, Simpson and Mitchell/Hanley. :)
Fear the Beard :P
Quote from: vinny on August 26, 2013, 09:48:39 PM
Yeah Gibbs wont be a defender next year either I don't think.
Really? Has played a lot of backline in the second half of the year
Chances of Murphy being M/F guys ?
High I think although he has been more in the guts the last few weeks. It also came out he needs surgery on his knee which he will get once the season finishes. I think he had a minor procedure on the knee the last couple of off-seasons so let's hope it is not degenerative.
Murphy, Danger, Rocky, Dusty possibly all M/F??? *drool*
Jesse Lonergan? Played 4 games this year, was a lock before he got injured. Only averaged 55, but I think he was sub once or twice.Will he be able to get games in the GC midfield though? With GAJ, Prestia, Bennell, O'Meara and Martin all ahead of him.
Lachie Neale.
Quote from: Donnie Brasco on August 31, 2013, 12:51:01 PM
Lachie Neale.
Neale has been great lately!!
To bad he has an average of about 90
Hodge if he is a m/d. Has pretty much started the 2nd half of the year in defence!
B: walker, hodge,
M: swan, gaz
R: sandi
F: Stevie j (if DP), dusty
Jack Steven is an absolute jet.
Buddy franklin
Quote from: batt on August 31, 2013, 03:07:49 PM
Jack Steven is an absolute jet.
+1 been saying hes gonna be the bext swan for a few years! Proving me right :P
This is what i'm looking at, at the moment for 2014
DEF: 2 of McVeigh/Mitchell/Simpson/Walker, Suckling,
MID: Pendles, Ablett, Watson, Libba, Steven, J. Martin
RUC: Minson/Goldy
FWD: Dangerfield, NicNat, Wingard, Hogan
Reg Grundy in the Ruck
Scott Pendlebury, Tom Liberatore and Jack Steven, will be the absolute elite of SC in years to come, and the first three picks for each year (Pendlebury already is elite, and first picked regardless).
Absolute freaks. Will start with Libba/Steven next year.
I made a thread in the coaches forum a month or two ago about Libba next year everyone said no :-\
Walker, Simpson, Mitchell Suckling. (Goddard over Mitchell if DPP)
Ablett Pendles Selwood Libba Swan/Cotchin
NicNat Kreuzer
Wingard Dusty Danger.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
I made a thread in the coaches forum a month or two ago about Libba next year everyone said no :-\
He's an absolute gun. Clearance and contested ball specialist, loves to tackle, doesn't get tagged (Griffen, Cooney, Boyd) all ahead of him and he just goes about it. So many 130+ scores from him this year.. Think he'll improve his consistently aswell.
Wow.
Def - Goddard, Hanley, Mitchell, Suckling
Mids- Pendles, Selwood, Watson, Swan, Libba
Rucks - Goldy, Leuey
Fwds- Rocky, Danger, Dusty, Nic Nat
Quote from: _wato on September 01, 2013, 08:43:52 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 01, 2013, 08:39:35 PM
I made a thread in the coaches forum a month or two ago about Libba next year everyone said no :-\
He's an absolute gun. Clearance and contested ball specialist, loves to tackle, doesn't get tagged (Griffen, Cooney, Boyd) all ahead of him and he just goes about it. So many 130+ scores from him this year.. Think he'll improve his consistently aswell.
Wow.
yeah but it was before the Bulldogs started winning games i'll dig the thread up and see what they say now
Haha yeah I remember that KB! I think I said no too. But yes, good call. Get around Libba ;)
Quote from: roo boys! on August 12, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Heart says Ryan Bastinac....head says I've gone insane already
Basti basti basti oi oi oi
Bit selfish ay Basti going big today to lift your average hence starting price for next year....over 500k I'll be forced to look elsewhere, but sub 450k I'll do my best to squeeze you in legend
Can already see a poll in the off season.. Libba vs Jack Steven
Quote from: roo boys! on September 01, 2013, 08:57:54 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on August 12, 2013, 10:13:08 PM
Heart says Ryan Bastinac....head says I've gone insane already
Basti basti basti oi oi oi
Bit selfish ay Basti going big today to lift your average hence starting price for next year....over 500k I'll be forced to look elsewhere, but sub 450k I'll do my best to squeeze you in legend
On that rule for pricing, he should start next year at $497,940k mate! Squeezing him in?
Quote from: quinny88 on September 01, 2013, 09:00:14 PM
Can already see a poll in the off season.. Libba vs Jack Steven
+1 Been thinking about it already.
I would be interested in Libba but I can just see him copping a tag next year and not being able to cope. A lock if he has shown he can handle the tag though.
Quote from: Big Mac on September 01, 2013, 09:15:14 PM
I would be interested in Libba but I can just see him copping a tag next year and not being able to cope. A lock if he has shown he can handle the tag though.
Its always a concern with young players. Same reason im uneasy about Wingard
So after Ablett's performance today I'm guessing everyone's locking him in again?
Quote from: JROO8 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
So after Ablett's performance today I'm guessing everyone's locking him in again?
if i'm honest not 100% with Jack Martin think he might play forward more
Quote from: JROO8 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
So after Ablett's performance today I'm guessing everyone's locking him in again?
Yeah :P The last month just cheapened him up! :) I wont be able to stand seeing my opponent with him and pumping out a 160!
Quote from: JROO8 on September 01, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
So after Ablett's performance today I'm guessing everyone's locking him in again?
Yes ;D Hahaha.
for me ll be gong Cotchin (dodgy knee this year) and marc Murphy (after averaging 90 this season wll be cheap as chips next year)
McKenna knew he was cherry ripe for todays game.
Admitted he was a bit run down the past month, but he came good during the week.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-29/mckenna-backs-ablett-to-fire (http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-29/mckenna-backs-ablett-to-fire)
So GAJ is locked for me ;)
At the moment I'm going Jack Steven.. Won't be much dearer than Libba!
13 tons, 10x110+, 4x130+, HS 161, 3x99 + a 98, lowest score of 78x3, 2x89.
Fairly consistent scorer, bit like Pendles. Should really have 17 tons out of 22 games which is incredible.
Libba
13 tons, 11x110+, 5x130+, HS 163, 3x90's, lowest score of 42, 5 under 80.
Bit more inconsistent, than Steven, but has a very high ceiling. Bit like Dangerfield.
Who now? Very early but thoughts?
I was going to go Libba but I think you convinced me to go Steven Wato! Hahaha.
Steven can handle a tag pretty well. Although I fear he'll be overhyped. Still plenty of others to make a break for top-8 premium status.
I like Libba better just because the Doggies should win more games which helps
I had Libba in my draft side. He struggled early when Boyd came back into the side, then when he went out injured again Libba's scores lifted and later in the season when Boyd returned he was scoring pretty well. I think once Boyd retires Libba should be a lock in most sides.
S Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McVeigh
Gaz, Both Beams, J Lonergan, Libba, Griffen, J Martin
Luey, Sam Michael
Rocky, Hogan, Dangerfield, Wingard
Hopefully this will fit in the salary cap.
Would Lids get his Def/Mid DPP back? From the few games I've seen the Tigers play, it seems as though he's almost always in defence, and running off half back.
Quote from: nrich102 on September 02, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
S Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McVeigh
Gaz, Both Beams, J Lonergan, Libba, Griffen, J Martin
Luey, Sam Michael
Rocky, Hogan, Dangerfield, Wingard
Hopefully this will fit in the salary cap.
Lol Michael has had one good game hasn't he?
at this stage im not going anywhere near libba or steven. too costly to take the punt.
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 02, 2013, 09:44:13 AM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 02, 2013, 07:00:15 AM
S Mitchell, Hanley, Suckling, McVeigh
Gaz, Both Beams, J Lonergan, Libba, Griffen, J Martin
Luey, Sam Michael
Rocky, Hogan, Dangerfield, Wingard
Hopefully this will fit in the salary cap.
Lol Michael has had one good game hasn't he?
Yeah I know its a shower and unrealistic team lol
Quote from: GoLions16 on September 02, 2013, 09:37:08 AM
Would Lids get his Def/Mid DPP back? From the few games I've seen the Tigers play, it seems as though he's almost always in defence, and running off half back.
I was thinking this myself, he's played a bit down back butnimdont think it's enough for him to get D/M DPP :-\
???
Anyone know whether Andrew Swallow will be back for a pre season? I was away when he was injured and don't know much about him. ;)
No he will be out for a while
It was like 9 months I think they said
Quote from: luvfooty on September 04, 2013, 09:58:23 PM
No he will be out for a while
It was like 9 months I think they said
Yep, wouldn't think he'd make a return until rd 5-10 next year at least, and without a preseason he'll be extremely underdone, like Marc Murphy this year. Pick him up in 2015 cheap as chips. I like him.
Sam Docherty at a Victorian club
an underpriced Luke Shuey might be worth a look if he has a decent pre-season
Higgins is the only lock at this point in time.
I'm taking Steven most likely, not sure on Libba. Both will be slightly under priced compared to top premos so potential options for sure. Can we fit both in?
Murphy now locked in for 2014, he's back to his best
Great game from Murphy today! :D
But he did not get a tag..
Can he handle it when he does? I don't know man.
Considering he needs knee surgery, that is an impressive performance.
Depends whether Murphy has a pre-season next year. He didn't this year and he was always playing catch-up.
The best backline premiums next season could mostly be made up of players that weren't even backs this year :o
Lids, Mitchell, McVeigh, Walker, Simpson, Dal Santo
Simmo <3
Quote from: TeeJay on September 09, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
The best backline premiums next season could mostly be made up of players that weren't even backs this year :o
Lids, Mitchell, McVeigh, Walker, Simpson, Dal Santo
McVeigh, Walker and Simpson are very likely to get it but I don't think Lids, Mitchell or NDS will.
Quote from: TeeJay on September 09, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
The best backline premiums next season could mostly be made up of players that weren't even backs this year :o
Lids, Mitchell, McVeigh, Walker, Simpson, Dal Santo
Possibly Bartel as well?
Yeah probably not but they should
Quote from: TeeJay on September 09, 2013, 09:27:54 PM
Yeah probably not but they should
I'm hoping they do but I see it as very unlikely.
Bartel should get it.
Lachie Neale to smash it next year?
Brad Mckenzie?
Quote from: blewy09 on September 09, 2013, 10:37:31 PM
Lachie Neale to smash it next year?
Brad Mckenzie?
Think Neale will still struggle for a regular gig with the freo midfield. WIll be a very good player one day soon though
Longer as Hawks' number one ruckman?
Quote from: tor01doc on September 10, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Longer as Hawks' number one ruckman?
Do you know something Doc.
Hamish McIntosh? ^
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Hamish McIntosh? ^
Was thinking about him as well, maybe either him or sandy as R2, both if you're feeling super lucky, why not you waste 394 trades on rucks every year anyway
Quote from: roti on September 10, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Hamish McIntosh? ^
Was thinking about him as well, maybe either him or sandy as R2, both if you're feeling super lucky, why not you waste 394 trades on rucks every year anyway
Haha yeah true! I myself am going one of-
NicNat Kreuzer
NicNat Minson
NicNat Luey
Quote from: Ringo on September 10, 2013, 05:25:53 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on September 10, 2013, 03:56:20 PM
Longer as Hawks' number one ruckman?
Do you know something Doc.
Rumours surfaced yesterday that that Billy Longer was wanting a trade back home to Melb and Hawthorn have shown plenty of interest and looks to be leading the race for him atm.
This is the reason why i won't mind losing Franklin, it means would could get a player like this who will be a star in the future, as well as a little cash left over which we could use to secure young players, rather then them leaving.
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: roti on September 10, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Hamish McIntosh? ^
Was thinking about him as well, maybe either him or sandy as R2, both if you're feeling super lucky, why not you waste 394 trades on rucks every year anyway
Haha yeah true! I myself am going one of-
NicNat Kreuzer
NicNat Minson
NicNat Luey
No Goldstein? :-\
He was awesome for me this year and I'll be picking him again.
Goldstein and Minson for me in the ruck and Naitanui up forward for me. 8)
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 09:35:12 PM
Quote from: roti on September 10, 2013, 09:17:49 PM
Quote from: vinny on September 10, 2013, 05:27:04 PM
Hamish McIntosh? ^
Was thinking about him as well, maybe either him or sandy as R2, both if you're feeling super lucky, why not you waste 394 trades on rucks every year anyway
Haha yeah true! I myself am going one of-
NicNat Kreuzer
NicNat Minson
NicNat Luey
Luey and Michael :P
I don't think I'm gane enough to HMac. I'll have to look how he goes in the Pre season etc.
Come on nrich Michael has shown nothing
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 10:05:39 AM
Come on nrich Michael has shown nothing
You mean no fantasy relevancy? You clearly haven't watched him play.
Quote from: nrich102 on September 11, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 10:05:39 AM
Come on nrich Michael has shown nothing
You mean no fantasy relevancy? You clearly haven't watched him play.
But your putting him in your fantasy team next year so I'd say his fantasy scores are relevant and they have been woeful would rather Zac Dawson
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 04:13:35 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on September 11, 2013, 03:59:43 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 11, 2013, 10:05:39 AM
Come on nrich Michael has shown nothing
You mean no fantasy relevancy? You clearly haven't watched him play.
But your putting him in your fantasy team next year so I'd say his fantasy scores are relevant and they have been woeful would rather Zac Dawson
He'll get better. Trust me.
GHS will get a gig in my team depending on price.
Quote from: Noz on September 11, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
GHS will get a gig in my team depending on price.
You think he'll get many games. I looked at him this year, but a number of guys seemed to be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Or are you banking on him being traded?
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 11, 2013, 05:00:18 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 11, 2013, 04:36:02 PM
GHS will get a gig in my team depending on price.
You think he'll get many games. I looked at him this year, but a number of guys seemed to be ahead of him in the pecking order.
Or are you banking on him being traded?
Selwood was talking him up as a chance for leadership/captain material last night at the MVP awards.. assuming you're talking about Horlin-Smith
Yeah Horlin Smith i was talking about.
I had him locked in pre season but realised that he is behind the pecking order of some of the more experienced mids and if Stokes didn't elevate himself this year GHS would of been seen a lot more. I think he is a shoe in for a break out year next year.
I still believe GHS can be the best player to come out of the 2010 draft.
Quote from: Noz on September 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
I still believe GHS can be the best player to come out of the 2010 draft.
Wow biiiiig call there Noz. It was a pretty decent draft!
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
I still believe GHS can be the best player to come out of the 2010 draft.
Wow biiiiig call there Noz. It was a pretty decent draft!
Rick O'Shea - on the money right there.
Heppell, Bennell, Prestia, I Smith, Wallis, Libber, Darling, Lester, Howe, Parker, Puopolo @ 66 ;D, Duigan and the Gold Coast guys like Gorringe, Day, Caddy, Lynch etc were all in that draft.
GHS - same as a good looking Iraqi (Asif).
Choosing a backline next year is going to be quite difficult.
Lots of aging guns to get DPP though. Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, Simpson etc.
Quote from: tor01doc on September 11, 2013, 09:16:12 PM
Quote from: Ricochet on September 11, 2013, 06:16:05 PM
Quote from: Noz on September 11, 2013, 06:11:39 PM
I still believe GHS can be the best player to come out of the 2010 draft.
Wow biiiiig call there Noz. It was a pretty decent draft!
Rick O'Shea - on the money right there.
Heppell, Bennell, Prestia, I Smith, Wallis, Libber, Darling, Lester, Howe, Parker, Puopolo @ 66 ;D, Duigan and the Gold Coast guys like Gorringe, Day, Caddy, Lynch etc were all in that draft.
GHS - same as a good looking Iraqi (Asif).
If Stokes didn't elevate himself in the middle this year GHS would of been seen alot more.
Take away his 2 games where he was the sub and he averaged 78 in one of those games he was playing a defensive role on Watson for a 68 then the following week he injured his leg resulting in a poor score of 54. His last 3 matches in the VFL have been superb would not be surprised if he is called up this weekend to play against Port.
In his first year he finished top 10 in the Geelong VFL best and fairest and top 5 in the VFL JJ Liston medal, Was given the best player for Geelong during the VFL campaign last year.
If you are still doubting his talent i urge you to go back to round 4 and watch his performance against Sydney 15 contested possessions 7 clearances and a goal to go with his 23 possessions and then against Melbourne in round 16 where 14 of his 16 possessions were contested.
8 matches in the VFL this year and has kicked 9 goals and has been named in the best 5 times
With Bartel spending less and less time in the middle, Corey and Chapman slowly drifting towards retirement and James Kelly reaching into his 30s. 2014 will be the year where GHS stamps his mark on the AFL.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-12/fasolo-set-to-fly-into-2014
How good is McVeigh 8)
A lock next year if he's a defender which is very likely.
Quote from: JROO8 on September 14, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
How good is McVeigh 8)
A lock next year if he's a defender which is very likely.
Definite lock as a defender given Malceski will normally get the forward tag first as well.
Quote from: Rusty00 on September 14, 2013, 09:58:59 PM
Quote from: JROO8 on September 14, 2013, 09:47:39 PM
How good is McVeigh 8)
A lock next year if he's a defender which is very likely.
Definite lock as a defender given Malceski will normally get the forward tag first as well.
If DPP which is nearly certain would be close to No 1 defender picked in advance of Goddard and Gibbs who were this years locks.
Quote from: vinny on September 11, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Choosing a backline next year is going to be quite difficult.
Lots of aging guns to get DPP though. Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, Simpson etc.
i like Mitchell, Goddard, Gibbs, Mcveigh. If no gibbs then simpson bt gibbs should retain dpp.
But i am going to want to slip in Suckling maybe Waters think there is another one who will be a bargain next season too and a pretty safe pick.
DEF: Goddard, Mitchell, McVeigh, Suckling, rookie, rookie (rookie, rookie)
MID: Ablett, Pendlebury, Watson, Beams, Murphy, J.Martin, rookie, rookie (rookie, rookie)
RUC: Nic Nat, Sandilands (Rookie, Rookie)
FWD: Martin, Rockliff, Wingard, T.Walker, Hogan, rookie (rookie, rookie)
DEF: 3x premium, 1 midpricer
MID: 2x super premium, 2x underpriced super premium, 1x cheap premium
RUC: 1x underpriced premium, 1 discounted premium/gun
FWD: 3x premium, 1x discounted premium
Something like that probably will be my first draft, my calculations based on this years prices that would come to something like $9.8mil factoring in 135k per rookie
#procrastination
Quote from: Colliwobblers on September 15, 2013, 08:29:16 AM
Quote from: vinny on September 11, 2013, 10:09:36 PM
Choosing a backline next year is going to be quite difficult.
Lots of aging guns to get DPP though. Mitchell, McVeigh, Bartel, Simpson etc.
i like Mitchell, Goddard, Gibbs, Mcveigh. If no gibbs then simpson bt gibbs should retain dpp.
But i am going to want to slip in Suckling maybe Waters think there is another one who will be a bargain next season too and a pretty safe pick.
with some good discounts a starting backline of
Goddard, McVeigh, Suckling, Hurn, Waters, Bock, rookie , rookie. very high risk but something to look at.
For back lines if Goddard keeps.
Probably one of-
Goddard Simpson Hibberd Suckling
Goddard Simpson McVeigh Suckling
Hibberd played every game which is appealing but will be hard to look past some of new defenders
Yeah true! But he is just so so so consistent. :P
Def: Goddard, possibly Brandon Ellis(99.2 avg if you exclude sub affected games) he racks it up and uses it well.
Mid: GAJ, Pendles, Stevie J(to have a DPP in mid)
Ruck: McEvoy if his price is similar to 300 oddK wchih is what it was at end of this season. (He just had a few bad matches at end but he is a solid pick)
Fwd: DMartin, Cox(if keeps DPP, otherwise ruck lock, NRiewoldt( i had a different account last year and i said he was a lock and everyone thought it was clueless, stkilda did drop with a thud but Rood stood up with a solid average or 105/6.
Also Bartel if keeps DPP
McEvoy ~300K....closer to 500K i would think, average 90+ and played pretty much every game from memory
Yeah he was great, faded at end as some players do. His finishing price was below 400k so I don't know how much it will change, he should be around 500k. I never said he would start that price, I was going off the price he finished, would be a bargain
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 25, 2013, 07:59:34 PM
Yeah he was great, faded at end as some players do. His finishing price was below 400k so I don't know how much it will change, he should be around 500k. I never said he would start that price, I was going off the price he finished, would be a bargain
Prices go on how much the player averaged in the previous season.
He averaged 93 last year so that's what he'll be priced at. Probably around 500k.
D- McVeigh Simpson and X (Depending if Goddard keeps DPP if not probably Mitchell/Hibberd.
M- Ablett Pendles Selwood Watson Cotchin
R- NicNat & Luey/HMac
F- Danger Rocky Wingard
In that case Brandon Ellis a lock because he'll cost 400k when his average from non-sub affected games is 99.2
Welcome Fantasygun,
Nice to have a newbie who knows his affecteds vs effecteds.
;) I must have been a school teacher in several of my previous lives.
I was new at the end of last year and then i just made a new account. I'm pretty handy at fantasy footy though. Just new to this kind of thing.
We are all good at fantasy football on this site - even tbag!
Not saying I'm the best. Because I'm not. Just trying to say that because I'm new doesn't mean I'm not experienced with fantasy footy. :)
Don't try and poison Fantasyguns mind. Avoid Tbag at all costs!
Who's Tbag?
Haha he's cool don't worry! you will see him around...I guarantee it. ;)
Not a lock in but i may select him: Adam Schneider. His price will be mid 300s or maybe he migh be discounted.
Has a ridiculous amount of footy smarts. Rarely has a crap disposal. More of a 16-24 disposal player who use quite efficient. Slots goals whenever he has the chance aswell.
Two subsitute(on) scores of 46 where he was on for about 40% of the game.
Then 79
104
and 58(barely got it playing freo reserves, all the kids got it and wasn't much chance for the veterans.
Maybe could average mid to high 80s. I might use him as F5 because Boyd and Hogan won't be scoring high( from the start anyway). Can afford to seeing going 3 elite prems, 1 almost elite prem , 1 mid pricer and 3 rookies in the midfield.
Not for me, 29 and in a losing side plus in two years, played only 8 games. Had one good game in 2013.
Only players I can see myself picking from St Kilda at some stage next year is Joey and NRoo. :)
Fair enough. I was 50/50 with him.
Alot of people steered clear of NRoo this year. He turned out to be a great pick for me.
I'm tossing up between Joey and Jack Steven. Both produced some monster scores(not counting the last game, that didn't mean much).
Jack only dropped below 20 disp. twice all year and average of 116 second half.
I went all 3, but when they lose heavily they normally don't all get the ton.
Just curious, what is the +4/-3 mean the side of my post.
It is a cheer/boo system. You can cheer people at 50 posts. :)
Forgot about Steven! I am sure I will have him at some point :)
If you're going to start with either Joey or Steven I'd pick Steven. Joey is rubbed out for round one and will be pricier, and you'd think their output would be much the same if not Steven to step it up further. Both guns, so both good pickups.
Oh yeah, forgot he copped a week in rnd 23 (again)
I am starting with neither mate :P
I guessed that.
The first 3 mids: Ablett, Pendles and Selwood/Stevie J are obvious. The are too many options for the fourth and 5th.
Cotchin & Watson
Yeah, I went with Cotchin in 2012 and this year. He was solid but a few disapointing games.
Maybe Kieran Jack
He was injured most of the season, had a game where he was subbed off it was considered one of his worst years.
Yet he polled 19 brownlow votes.
What does that say about him? Oh and he is only 23.. ;)
I know he's pretty good and only 23. His price won't be what it is now though.
Last year i was going to pick Cotchin(i did) and Murphy, Fyfe,Swan, and dangerfield and i was told my i didn't have enough of the top mids.
Yeah he will be about 560k
Murphy will be 492k.
I'd take Steven ahead of Cotchin then :)
Steven will be about 20k more expensive.
And Cotchin can go 115+
Yeah he is a gun! Brownlow coming up for him soon 8)
Just my opinion, I know they are the same age, Steven started to play decent footy only 2 years ago and might have more room to improve.
I know i have but is everyone just staying away from ZORKO?
Cotchin is a safer starting option because he is proven, what if Steven doesn't go elite.
Not saying he won't, just saying Cotchin is the safer option.
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 27, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
I know i have but is everyone just staying away from ZORKO?
I am. He is too good at his role in the forward line and it is damaging his fantasy output
Quote from: Ricochet on September 27, 2013, 03:01:00 PM
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 27, 2013, 02:57:41 PM
I know i have but is everyone just staying away from ZORKO?
I am. He is too good at his role in the forward line and it is damaging his fantasy output
Yes this, he is doing well in his role but no good for us doing fantasy :(
Not sure if you mean elite in terms of SC or just at how he plays.
26.9 disposals is solid.
No chance Steven will become a FWD DPP? he has a the most goal assists for STK (not that it's hard) but is that sort of thing considered by the people who decide positions?
I mean from a 109 average to a 115-120
Nah Steven won't get DPP mate :( If he did he would be my second picked forward.
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 27, 2013, 03:02:18 PM
Not sure if you mean elite in terms of SC or just at how he plays.
Real footy, not fantasy
Haha dammit
Ablett Pendles Rocky Selwood Cotchin Martin Mcdonald Orouke is my midfield at this stage.
Hopefully O'Rourke bulks up and gets more game time
You reckon Rocky will lose DPP Holz?! He played most of the year up forward except for the end of the year. Lock with DPP or not but I don't think he will lose it.
Quote from: vinny on September 27, 2013, 04:12:38 PM
You reckon Rocky will lose DPP Holz?! He played most of the year up forward except for the end of the year. Lock with DPP or not but I don't think he will lose it.
he started the year playing alot of mid time, he only had that middle patch where i woudl classify him as a forward. he averaged 110 Virtual sports just make up the positions and i dont see them letting a guy who averaged 110 and can average 120 be a dpp.
Hmmm..fair enough, I hope you are wrong though haha.
Quote from: vinny on September 27, 2013, 04:17:20 PM
Hmmm..fair enough, I hope you are wrong though haha.
its actually good if he is mid only, if he isnt than everyone picks him and the game is made easier. Your now a elite fantasy players now vinny you want the game to be harder. He gets mid only and you still pick him up and you get a leg up on the competition.
Hahaha :P Yeah that's true! Strategy is good, unlimited trades is stupid. I am still undecided on the rolling lockout though.
Richard Douglas worth considering?
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 27, 2013, 08:59:32 PM
Richard Douglas worth considering?
Comes at an awkward price but this year he got 10 scores over 100 and 6 of them above 120. Still there would be better options out there one would think.
Quote from: Noz on September 27, 2013, 09:10:24 PM
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 27, 2013, 08:59:32 PM
Richard Douglas worth considering?
Comes at an awkward price but this year he got 10 scores over 100 and 6 of them above 120. Still there would be better options out there one would think.
Yeah, adding on to this, he is worth considering, but you'd have to be confident that he could do even better than this year.
Talking about Rocky being a Mid only Holzman and nobody picking him, could this be the same situation for Stevie J?
I'm seriously contemplating starting with Ablett, Pendles, Watson, SJ, Beams
Averaged 116 and scored 178 in the prelim. 8 of his 12 tons were over 120 and his lowest score was 75. Will be a big a POD next year.
Quote from: _wato on September 27, 2013, 10:24:21 PM
Talking about Rocky being a Mid only Holzman and nobody picking him, could this be the same situation for Stevie J?
I'm seriously contemplating starting with Ablett, Pendles, Watson, SJ, Beams
Averaged 116 and scored 178 in the prelim. 8 of his 12 tons were over 120 and his lowest score was 75. Will be a big a POD next year.
the difference is SJ will be one of the most ecpensive in the comp and he always seems to miss games. Rocky over him easy as he is cheaper, will play more games and i think will outscore him.
Not if SJ is as good next year as this year?
Yeah he is also far younger.
Quote from: Holzman on September 28, 2013, 10:13:34 PM
the difference is SJ will be one of the most ecpensive in the comp and he always seems to miss games. Rocky over him easy as he is cheaper, will play more games and i think will outscore him.
I think Stevie J can curb his string of missed games next year (remembering his first two games were off an injury, so only 4 were through suspension) and after his last layoff he certainly went about keeping clean and not doing anything stupid.
As for expensiveness, he'll only be another $35k more. I don't know if Rocky will outscore him to be honest. Stevie J is guaranteed mid time and kicks goals up forward, whereas Rocky only scores well while playing in the middle.
And the $600k plus price tag will throw him off a lot of people.. I like his scoring potential, and on his points average this year he was one of the top Mids.
You honestly believe Rocky wont be DPP?
Rocky 122.8 avg last 9 games. Ripper second half of the year
Burgoyne was brilliant in the prelim but not the granny.
Could be good but not consistent enough in his scoring.
Ivan "Mullet" Maric worth using?
He was a great pick up in 2012, slowed down this year, still one of the better rucks.
What are peoples thoughts on Waters?
For me, i personally am locking him in for 2014 along side 2 of Mithcel/Walker/McVeigh, as well as Suckling.
Huge risk, but he should be priced at well under 400k with a discount of his 80 average from 7 games this year. Well and truly worth it IMO as he is a proven 100 average player and extremely consistent! History shows when he has an injured season the next he plays close to a full one :P (Fingers crossed) With 30 trades he is a 'way not' player and will more than likely future in my rnd 1 side.
I'm with Holz, i want most of the likes of Dangerfield, Rocky, Simpson, Walker, Johnson, McVeigh and Mitchell to not get DP because it allows for more uniques to come into play. (I wouldn't mind 1 of Danger, Rocky and Johnson getting it as well as one of Walker, McVeigh, Mitchell just to get that extra big score into my team, but yeah definitely not them all!)
If Walker gets DPP for backline will he lose midfield or forward eligibility?
Walker played a little bit of time up forward but not enough to justify DPP. Back only.
Quote from: ██████████ on September 29, 2013, 07:06:00 PM
Walker played a little bit of time up forward but not enough to justify DPP. Back only.
Yep, that's what I think also. Thank god too, some may get off him as his price tag will be hefty. Wooooo.
Quote from: _wato on September 29, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Yeah never thought of him! Hurn is another one who fits that mould.
Had another player who was around that price, but I'd definitely pick Waters on potential to him.
Ill be starting with Mcveigh, Mitchell, Walker, Waters and Suckling, maybe even Bock + 2 rookies.
I was looking at trading him in just before he got injured. He was awesome last year
His scored 99, 67, 73, 86, 103, 118, 113, 104, 106, 90, 83, 8 (subbed and injured)
So take away his sub score and he was averaging 94.73 after a slow start to the season and 102.43 over his last 7 games (minus the 8 sub score).
Quote from: Mat0369 on September 29, 2013, 07:56:57 PM
Quote from: _wato on September 29, 2013, 06:53:04 PM
Yeah never thought of him! Hurn is another one who fits that mould.
Had another player who was around that price, but I'd definitely pick Waters on potential to him.
Ill be starting with Mcveigh, Mitchell, Walker, Waters and Suckling, maybe even Bock + 2 rookies.
I was looking at trading him in just before he got injured. He was awesome last year
His scored 99, 67, 73, 86, 103, 118, 113, 104, 106, 90, 83, 8 (subbed and injured)
So take away his sub score and he was averaging 94.73 after a slow start to the season and 102.43 over his last 7 games (minus the 8 sub score).
Would you risk him at an awkward price next year? I won't but he'd be a good buy under $400k.
He could do exactly what Hibberd did this year, I reckon. Those numbers are quite tasty.
Anywhere near the 400 mark you would have to start with him. He is this years Hibberd where the sub game has brought his average down drastically. Hibberd had Anzac day last year, Hurn has the Hawks game from this season
Which 2 Mids should i lock in?
The options are: fyfe, D.beams, Murphy and cotchin
already locked ablett, pendles and jelwood
Quote from: blues123 on September 30, 2013, 10:51:33 AM
Which 2 Mids should i lock in?
The options are: fyfe, D.beams, Murphy and cotchin
already locked ablett, pendles and jelwood
none of them should be locked in this early. I would say Beams would be close to a lock, i would look at Jobe Watson too.
My premo mids will be Ablett, Pendles, Watson and Beams. Two locks and two slightly underpriced guns! Will obviously depend on pre-seasons and bye structure to. I might try and get creative with my M5 with a mid-pricer or a unique option.
Wat bout fyfe
And my mid 5 will be a murphy because he will be a mid pricer
The thing with Murphy is he cannot seem to break a tag, need assurance that he can do that before picking him :-\
If the pies get White from Sydney then Clokey will be a lock for me
I wouldn't bring in Cloke even if he was averaged 200. :P
My Mid 5 will be
ablett, pendles, jelwood, beams and watson and 2 rookies
if u feel i need to change things let me noe
Quote from: blues123 on September 30, 2013, 11:56:55 AM
My Mid 5 will be
ablett, pendles, jelwood, beams and watson and 2 rookies
if u feel i need to change things let me noe
just dunno about this Ablett bloke....maybe have a look around for a better performer..
what other mids are better than beams and watson
danger perhaps
pretty simple for me next year really
Ablett, Pendles, Jelwood, Danger, Libba
Fyfe or Watson
Give me your username and password mate and I will just do your team for you ;)
Watson though ;D
Quote from: vinny on September 30, 2013, 03:01:28 PM
Give me your username and password mate and I will just do your team for you ;)
hahahah, good form vin, but everyone knows supercoach uses emails not usernames, ::) ;)
Hahaha I knew that! ;)
Quote from: vinny on September 30, 2013, 03:01:28 PM
Give me your username and password mate and I will just do your team for you ;)
Directed at blues123 I'm guessing?
Unless it's me haha.
If it was, no thanks, im fine :)
Haha it wasn't at you mate :)
I reckon the way to definitely go is stack the midfield with premiums.
Backs and Forwards are so unreliable that it makes sense to stack the midfield.
This year I went with 5 premiums in the midfield and 3 premiums in the backline.
Next year I'll go Ablett, Pendles, Selwood, Dangerfield, Watson, J.Martin, M.Crouch, Rookie (Rookie, Rookie)
Backs I'll grab Scotty Thompson, Bock and Suckling
Midfield is definitely my priority though, its where you score most of your points from. ;)
Heck, I might even try and squeeze in a 6th premium midfielder into my midfield like Rockcliff. ;D
Tom Ledger likely to be picked up after he requested to be delisted from stkilda to find a new club. Freo and westcoast showing interest and a few other clubs. If he gets picked up he might be worth considering.
I'm not sure how discounts work for players like him though.
Alot of potential(yes i know dangerous word).
Could avg 80-85 if he gets decent gametime.
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 30, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
Tom Ledger likely to be picked up after he requested to be delisted from stkilda to find a new club. Freo and westcoast showing interest and a few other clubs. If he gets picked up he might be worth considering.
I'm not sure how discounts work for players like him though.
Alot of potential(yes i know dangerous word).
Could avg 80-85 if he gets decent gametime.
Yeah for sure! He is a freak player and I don't see why he deserved to get delisted. Obviously the Saints had their reasons but if he is priced low enough, he is worth a look. Hopefully he goes to a club that gives him regular games.
Quote from: vinny on September 30, 2013, 08:32:10 PM
Quote from: Fantasygun on September 30, 2013, 08:29:02 PM
Tom Ledger likely to be picked up after he requested to be delisted from stkilda to find a new club. Freo and westcoast showing interest and a few other clubs. If he gets picked up he might be worth considering.
I'm not sure how discounts work for players like him though.
Alot of potential(yes i know dangerous word).
Could avg 80-85 if he gets decent gametime.
Yeah for sure! He is a freak player and I don't see why he deserved to get delisted. Obviously the Saints had their reasons but if he is priced low enough, he is worth a look. Hopefully he goes to a club that gives him regular games.
He was delisted because he asked to be, didn't get enough games. Would have thought he would have got games at StKilda given their situation, plus he is better than Seb Ross for STK who got 16 games this year.
Have had the same midfield that I've said i'll start with for about a month now.
Ablett, Pendles, Watson, Beams and SJ.
buddy when he moves to sydney swans :P
Quote from: sammy123 on October 01, 2013, 12:58:30 PM
buddy when he moves to sydney swans :P
Wouldn't go near him for mine, not with Tippett and as Sydney are renowned for having an equal spread of scorers. Way too many good players to steal points off him. Not for me.
Steer away from Buddy in SC, same as what he said^. :)
My VERY rough team thus far:
Defs: 3 of either Goddard/Mitchell/McVeigh/Simpson/Walker/D.Swallow/Broadbent, Bock, Suckling, Rookie, (Rookie, Rookie)
Mids: Ablett, Selwood, Pendlebury, Fyfe, Liberatore, Steven, J.Martin, Rookie, (Rookie, Rookie)
Rucks: Minson, Sandilands, (McIntosh, R/F Rookie)
Fwds: Rockliff M/F, Naitanui R/F, Franklin, Wingard M/F, Hogan, Rookie, (Rookie, Rookie)
Which equals somewhere between $9.8-10 million.
This is the rouch guide I will be using come team making time.
really stuck on which 2 to pick for Mid 4 & 5
options are libba, beams, j. steven, cotchin and watson
Quote from: blues123 on October 01, 2013, 03:17:04 PM
really stuck on which 2 to pick for Mid 4 & 5
options are libba, beams, j. steven, cotchin and watson
I'm the same.
I guess it will come down to personal preference and who will be a POD.
I'm going Jack Steven and Cotchin.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm going to wait and make sure all of these guys are fit and named Round 1 of 2014 rather than locking them in only a few days after the 2013 AFL Grand Final.
Haha goodpoint. Clearly i will make sure they are selected rnd 1. there are many mids close to being in my team so i can just pick them except ill have to keep them, don't want to waste trades at the start.
I only make good points. ;)
#NoTimeWasted
#MostValuablePoster
2013 was a good year for SC, many decent finds and pickups this year.
obviously I'm not trying to claim anything by posting this. some these rookies werent available the whole time but this would have been a dream SC team to have at the start(fitting in the salary cap of course!)
TEAM NAME: Fantasy gun!!
DEF: B. Goddard, S. Thompson, R. Murphy, G. Ibbotson, D. Roberton, B. Goodes (L. Stevenson, D. Terlich)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, S. Pendlebury, J. Selwood, R. Griffen, T. Boak, J. Steven, B. Crouch, J. O'Meara (K. Martin, M. Jones)
RUC: W. Minson, M. Leuenberger (M. Blicavs, B. Grundy)
FWD: T. Rockliff, S. Johnson, N. Riewoldt, D. Martin, B. Staker, T. Lee (S. Rowe, S. Dwyer)
CASH LEFT: $900
No Wines? :o
I already made a thread for hindsight teams ::)
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 06:43:17 PM
I already made a thread for hindsight teams ::)
Well done
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Hahaha KB, CF is using your own weapon against you - Sarcasm. ;)
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Hahaha KB, CF is using your own weapon against you - Sarcasm. ;)
No he just likes trolling me
Close enough :P
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Hahaha KB, CF is using your own weapon against you - Sarcasm. ;)
No he just likes trolling me
Wait what? Are you actually calling me a troll? :o
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Hahaha KB, CF is using your own weapon against you - Sarcasm. ;)
No he just likes trolling me
Wait what? Are you actually calling me a troll? :o
no just that you like stirring me i think
Haha I think it's just banter KB.
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
Haha I think it's just banter KB.
yes i know but some do it more then others
trolling was the wrong word didn't mean to offend you CF
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 09:30:31 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 09:28:06 PM
Haha I think it's just banter KB.
yes i know but some do it more then others
trolling was the wrong word didn't mean to offend you CF
JB ;D
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 09:27:30 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 01, 2013, 09:24:21 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on October 01, 2013, 08:48:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 01, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Hahaha KB, CF is using your own weapon against you - Sarcasm. ;)
No he just likes trolling me
Wait what? Are you actually calling me a troll? :o
no just that you like stirring me i think
Don't take it personally KB, I like to stir a lot of people ;)
I mean no offense with anything I say or post :)
Quote from: specky92 on October 01, 2013, 06:38:01 PM
No Wines? :o
Whoops yeah, I would have had on the file though so would have made much difference.
Krak
Anyone considering Pavlich or Boyd?
Quote from: _wato on October 03, 2013, 01:15:59 PM
Anyone considering Pavlich or Boyd?
boyd at 103 average isnt cheap enough but Pav low 80s definately looking at. dale thomas at 79 average is a lock if he is named round 1.
D.Martin, T.Walker, M.Pavlich, D.Thomas,
Yeah I'm the same with Daisy/Pav aswell Holzman.
I'd go with Dangerfield/Rocky, Nic Nat, T Walker, Pavlich, D Thomas, Hogan at this stage, depending on prices
With Sylvia now going to Freo and if price is reasonable may be worth a look and lock.
Quote from: Ringo on October 03, 2013, 01:56:36 PM
With Sylvia now going to Freo and if price is reasonable may be worth a look and lock.
Yep I'll look at him.
Quote from: _wato on October 03, 2013, 01:48:18 PM
Yeah I'm the same with Daisy/Pav aswell Holzman.
I'd go with Dangerfield/Rocky, Nic Nat, T Walker, Pavlich, D Thomas, Hogan at this stage, depending on prices
danger and nic nat wont get dpp. Rocky probably wont get dpp. If any of them do get it i will lock them in but they wont.
Most will lock NicNat in the rucks anyway.
Quote from: vinny on October 03, 2013, 02:19:57 PM
Most will lock NicNat in the rucks anyway.
he has to be fully fit for me to do that at 96 average he isnt a lock but he is a guy to think about.
Mummy at 92 is worth a look if he moves clubs.
Sandi you could argue would have to be a lock if named round 1, priced at 64 and had a good finals campign.
I currently have Hmac Sandi as my ruck duo.
Yeah true
I am going one of:
HMac/Mummy
NicNat/Mummy
HMac/NicNat
I'm going with Nic Nat/Sandi now that Holzman has pretty much sold me that Nic Nat won't be DPP.
I think I can risk it, and if Sandi does go bust I can easily up upgrade to Mummy/whoever is playing well or sideways to Hmac. Will look at preseason but his finals campaign was super, and he looked back to his best. Don't know what the story will be with Griffin back but wouldn't expect he'll be in the team with Clarke and Sandi #1 and #2 ruck.
And we all waste 892292828 trades on ruckman each year anyway. I started with what I thought was a safe ruck option this year (Maric, Jacobs), but it ended up turning bust. Won't ever do that again.
I think you need at least one safe ruckman such as Goldstein in your rucks.
Going a combo of NicNat and Sandi/HMac is too dangerous IMO.
Sure take a risk with one of them as your your R2 but make sure you have a stable ruck at R1.
At this stage I'm thinking of going Goldstein as R1 and NicNat as R2 if he is only a ruck and has had a solid pre season.
Am also considering Sandi and HMac as R2 aswell.
Or I could jsut go set and forget with Goldy R1 and Minson R2. 8)
Why isn't NicNat safe? He had OP this year and didn't do a preseason but other than that he has played 20 or more games in every year except his debut season.
I just have a feeling one of Goldy and Minson will spud.. :-X
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 11:17:07 AM
I just have a feeling one of Goldy and Minson will spud.. :-X
goldy 2 season of sole ruck 110+ in both, cant see why he wont be again so he is proven.
I am listening H-man! ;)
Haha I know it's just feeling...I am ready to proven wrong and probably will be :P
Shave that beard off v-man
Never! The beard shall live on >:D
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Never! The beard shall live on >:D
It's October. ;)
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Never! The beard shall live on >:D
It's October. ;)
Haha that caption will be the daily reminder of what we did to you in September. >:D
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Never! The beard shall live on >:D
It's October. ;)
Haha that caption will be the daily reminder of what we did to you in September. >:D
Living in the past, lulz.
i'm locking in Grundy as R2 unless they get another ruck
One to look at is Clancee Pearce. Will be priced at an average of 74, but that includes two injury affected games. He was a gun last year and still pretty young even though he doesn't look it. IMO he'll definitely be a defender next year and I'll keep an eye on him.
Somebody's probably mentioned this but if David Swallow is a defender next year (which I pressume he will be), lock him in!
Whats the deal with Christian Howard? Looked promising in his first few seasons and was even being considered by coaches heading into 2012, although has only seen a total of 18 games in his first 3 seasons. Is this injury wise or just not good enough to crack into the 22? He inked a new deal today and considering he only played 1 game in 2013 for a 50 he should come cheap. Thoughts?
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 07:43:43 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 12:07:42 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 12:06:40 PM
Quote from: NigeyS on October 04, 2013, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: vinny on October 04, 2013, 11:52:22 AM
Never! The beard shall live on >:D
It's October. ;)
Haha that caption will be the daily reminder of what we did to you in September. >:D
Living in the past, lulz.
Still butthurt.
Looking forward to the future actually. 8)
Swan Pendles and Beams ?? 1. Pendles for sure
I got pendles and beams
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 04, 2013, 08:00:25 PM
Whats the deal with Christian Howard? Looked promising in his first few seasons and was even being considered by coaches heading into 2012, although has only seen a total of 18 games in his first 3 seasons. Is this injury wise or just not good enough to crack into the 22? He inked a new deal today and considering he only played 1 game in 2013 for a 50 he should come cheap. Thoughts?
Very interesting prospect. I rated him heaps when he was younger, and he's a good ball user so should generally score well in SC. I have no idea how he's been going in the VFL though.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 05, 2013, 12:17:24 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 04, 2013, 08:00:25 PM
Whats the deal with Christian Howard? Looked promising in his first few seasons and was even being considered by coaches heading into 2012, although has only seen a total of 18 games in his first 3 seasons. Is this injury wise or just not good enough to crack into the 22? He inked a new deal today and considering he only played 1 game in 2013 for a 50 he should come cheap. Thoughts?
Very interesting prospect. I rated him heaps when he was younger, and he's a good ball user so should generally score well in SC. I have no idea how he's been going in the VFL though.
He had a pretty poor year in the VFL surprised the Bulldogs renewed his contract
Don't want too many Collingwood players especially with the two bye rounds.
I'd be wary! 2 out of the 3 is enough, although they're all prolific scorers.
Pendles and Beams for me
Quote from: _wato on October 05, 2013, 03:01:54 PM
Don't want too many Collingwood players ...
Fewer the better!
Jared Polec at the Crows should be very interesting! Only played the one game this year for an average of 32, which will result in a discount aswell, meaning he should almost be rookie priced!
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 06, 2013, 12:44:57 PM
Jared Polec at the Crows should be very interesting! Only played the one game this year for an average of 32, which will result in a discount aswell, meaning he should almost be rookie priced!
Smart thinking
Thinking for a bit of a POD option one of SJ/Ebert/Fyfe depending on cash
SJ and Fyfe aren't PODs ^
Quote from: Fantasygun on October 08, 2013, 07:36:30 PM
SJ and Fyfe aren't PODs ^
they won't exactly be mainstream, Stevie should lose dpp which will turn many off
Quote from: Fantasygun on October 08, 2013, 07:36:30 PM
SJ and Fyfe aren't PODs ^
Hahaha are you serious? Not many will choose SJ in the mids next year over Ablett, Pendles, Watson, Cotch and co, aswell as his hefty price tag
Fyfe wasn't picked by very many this year as he was behind all the other Mids, averaging 106, next year I'd think with his price tag many will choose other options and it will be a turn off
Think before you say something mate, yes probably not POD's this year, but certainly next year I see them being them
Haven't checked his he has been mentioned yet,
Ricky Henderson if he goes to the pies and Shaw leaves I think he should do well
Quote from: Samsturmfels on October 09, 2013, 04:48:05 PM
Haven't checked his he has been mentioned yet,
Ricky Henderson if he goes to the pies and Shaw leaves I think he should do well
Yeah I think he'll take Shaw's role, but I don't think he'll go the the Pies.
I still like Hendo if he stays at the Crows.
Playing the loose man in defence.
Shane Savage priced at 63.
83 average without the sub vests and he is now at stkilda.
around 280-310k anyone consider?
Definitely considering. Was in a much stronger side though so will be interesting to see how he goes in a bottom 5 side
Will he be a pure midfielder?
I'll only pick him if he's a forward as well, which I'm guessing is doubtful.
Lock in BUDDY!!!!
:P
Thoughts on McEvoy now that he is at the Hawks? Only averaged 93 this season after 104 the season before and was one of the players that was expected to take his game to the next level. IMO has the potential to average anywhere between 100-115 in 2014. Will be tough to pick with other strong options in Mummy, Mino, Goldy, NicNat, Sandi, Hmac and Longer.
I'm really excited with this trade as now Roughy can play 100% fwd, who IMO could push 80 goals next year and when ever Big boy needs a spell we can chuck Hale in instead. Roughy was a surprisingly low target in terms of % this year for when the Hawks where going fwd and still managed to take out the coleman! A big year is certainly now on the cards for Roughy!
So anyway, thoughts?
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 10, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Thoughts on McEvoy now that he is at the Hawks? Only averaged 93 this season after 104 the season before and was one of the players that was expected to take his game to the next level. IMO has the potential to average anywhere between 100-115 in 2014. Will be tough to pick with other strong options in Mummy, Mino, Goldy, NicNat, Sandi, Hmac and Longer.
I'm really excited with this trade as now Roughy can play 100% fwd, who IMO could push 80 goals next year and when ever Big boy needs a spell we can chuck Hale in instead. Roughy was a surprisingly low target in terms of % this year for when the Hawks where going fwd and still managed to take out the coleman! A big year is certainly now on the cards for Roughy!
So anyway, thoughts?
I'm definitely starting with him. Even without him being traded i was still going to.
May not get the post hitouts but gets a lot of points from contested marks and marks off the oppostion which obviously are rewarded SC wise more than easy cheap marks.
Solid. He did average 93 as a result of a few under par games near the end including being subbed off once or twice but should average 105 IMO.
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 10, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Thoughts on McEvoy now that he is at the Hawks? Only averaged 93 this season after 104 the season before and was one of the players that was expected to take his game to the next level. IMO has the potential to average anywhere between 100-115 in 2014. Will be tough to pick with other strong options in Mummy, Mino, Goldy, NicNat, Sandi, Hmac and Longer.
I'm really excited with this trade as now Roughy can play 100% fwd, who IMO could push 80 goals next year and when ever Big boy needs a spell we can chuck Hale in instead. Roughy was a surprisingly low target in terms of % this year for when the Hawks where going fwd and still managed to take out the coleman! A big year is certainly now on the cards for Roughy!
So anyway, thoughts?
No. A change of clubs makes no difference to my thinking as far as BigMac goes.
Goldy, Sandi, Minson, Lobbe and HMac are the ones I'm considering.
What does this mean as far as Roughies points though?
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 10, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Thoughts on McEvoy now that he is at the Hawks? Only averaged 93 this season after 104 the season before and was one of the players that was expected to take his game to the next level. IMO has the potential to average anywhere between 100-115 in 2014. Will be tough to pick with other strong options in Mummy, Mino, Goldy, NicNat, Sandi, Hmac and Longer.
I'm really excited with this trade as now Roughy can play 100% fwd, who IMO could push 80 goals next year and when ever Big boy needs a spell we can chuck Hale in instead. Roughy was a surprisingly low target in terms of % this year for when the Hawks where going fwd and still managed to take out the coleman! A big year is certainly now on the cards for Roughy!
So anyway, thoughts?
No. A change of clubs makes no difference to my thinking as far as BigMac goes.
Goldy, Sandi, Minson, Lobbe and HMac are the ones I'm considering.
What does this mean as far as Roughies points though?
I reckon his scores will remain stagnant, if anything drop of a touch. Most of his points lost from hitouts and clearances should be able to be regained with 2 or so more marks and shots on goal a game.
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 10, 2013, 08:08:41 PM
Thoughts on McEvoy now that he is at the Hawks? Only averaged 93 this season after 104 the season before and was one of the players that was expected to take his game to the next level. IMO has the potential to average anywhere between 100-115 in 2014. Will be tough to pick with other strong options in Mummy, Mino, Goldy, NicNat, Sandi, Hmac and Longer.
I'm really excited with this trade as now Roughy can play 100% fwd, who IMO could push 80 goals next year and when ever Big boy needs a spell we can chuck Hale in instead. Roughy was a surprisingly low target in terms of % this year for when the Hawks where going fwd and still managed to take out the coleman! A big year is certainly now on the cards for Roughy!
So anyway, thoughts?
No. A change of clubs makes no difference to my thinking as far as BigMac goes.
Goldy, Sandi, Minson, Lobbe and HMac are the ones I'm considering.
What does this mean as far as Roughies points though?
Doubt it will affect Roughy at all. He barely played in the ruck this season. Jordan Lewis had more hit outs than he did ;)
The change that will affect Roughy is Buddy leaving, not so much Big Boy coming in.
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Stevie should lose it but Rocky should keep it for one last year imo, Dusty also a good chance to keep it according to some Tiges fans, many will jump on Wingard, Tex will be hard to pass up
Quote from: specky92 on October 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Stevie should lose it but Rocky should keep it for one last year imo, Dusty also a good chance to keep it according to some Tiges fans, many will jump on Wingard, Tex will be hard to pass up
Yeah all those names are food for thought. Tex especially.
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Stevie should lose it but Rocky should keep it for one last year imo, Dusty also a good chance to keep it according to some Tiges fans, many will jump on Wingard, Tex will be hard to pass up
Yeah all those names are food for thought. Tex especially.
I thought Tex wasn't going to be back till mid season? I read something about a week ago saying he was still a while away and would miss the start of the season at least.
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 11, 2013, 08:12:53 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Stevie should lose it but Rocky should keep it for one last year imo, Dusty also a good chance to keep it according to some Tiges fans, many will jump on Wingard, Tex will be hard to pass up
Yeah all those names are food for thought. Tex especially.
I thought Tex wasn't going to be back till mid season? I read something about a week ago saying he was still a while away and would miss the start of the season at least.
that does sound familiar actually, :-\
Quote from: specky92 on October 11, 2013, 08:15:51 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 11, 2013, 08:12:53 AM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:13:23 PM
Quote from: specky92 on October 10, 2013, 10:09:49 PM
Quote from: enzedder on October 10, 2013, 10:03:42 PM
Roughy will be one worth getting then...as a fwd...probably won't be DPP...maybe Lewis will be a ruck. ;)
Forwards are the hardest to pick this far out in many ways...really have to wait for DPP. Stevie J and Rocky might be mids only. Daisy should be a good price but who knows how his pre season will work out... Higgins might be too cheap to overlook. The old warriors...Pav and Roo... will be another year older.
????????????????????
Stevie should lose it but Rocky should keep it for one last year imo, Dusty also a good chance to keep it according to some Tiges fans, many will jump on Wingard, Tex will be hard to pass up
Yeah all those names are food for thought. Tex especially.
I thought Tex wasn't going to be back till mid season? I read something about a week ago saying he was still a while away and would miss the start of the season at least.
that does sound familiar actually, :-\
Yeah it does! i had him in my 2014 team until i heard that. On the bright side, i suppose it allows me to play Thomas as there was no way i was going to go both Tex and Thomas, it could also allow for a handy maxed out rookie downgrade and use him as cheap bench cover that can well and truly replace a doughnut in your fwd line.
Tex back early rounds, sheesh
Dangerfield thinks he'll be back around round 8 or 9.
Quote"Maybe Round 8 or 9 you might see him. But we
Viv at Melb and Thorpe at the dogs (if he gets there) could be a couple of solid starting forward bench options! Michie can really play, if he stays injury free he should get his chances at Melb, more of a midfield type (averaged 26+ disposals and won his clubs BnF) but lets hope he keeps his Fwd dp. Melb EASILY won out of that trade, with pick 54 being a steal! Thorpe averaged an insane 24 touches, 11 marks and 4 goals this season! If he has improved his attitude from when he was at the hawks, he could be the missing link at the doggies and become a very viable fwd bench option for next year!
Thoughts?
With Shaw going to GWS he may be a lock in defence.
Quote from: Ringo on October 16, 2013, 08:04:28 PM
With Shaw going to GWS he may be a lock in defence.
My view is opposite of yours Ringo. Big no from me
Shaw is an upgrade target for me. I'd like to see how he performs before selecting him. He has burnt me in the past >:(
Yeah Shaw is too much of a risk, upgrade target with all the other options in defence. :)
Bernie Vince? 8)
Xavier Ellis at a standard rookie price is interesting, yeah he is the most injury prone player in the comp, if he is named Rnd 1 then all we need is 2months or so out of him and he has done his job. Has played 22 and 21 games in a season before. Handy rookie because he has a fairly high ceiling which you wouldn't really get with a rookie, but you will receive the same inconsistency.
Handy 2014 prospect
Never thought of that Hawkers, that could be interesting, obviously have to watch his preseason and make sure he plays and how he settles in at West Coast, don't know how much mid time he'll get but you'd have to wait and see.
Dom Tyson to Melbourne anyone? Former pick #3 in 2011, fair share of injuries but a new club and fresh start, I think he could go a long way. Might be a bit more than rookie priced, I'm not sure but he's obviously up there.
Anyone fancy Dayle Garlett also? Could be a smokey, has a very high ceiling
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!!!!!!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-18/no-more-mass-changes
Should help a little for SC finals!
Haha Ross killed me this year
Quote from: hawkers65 on October 18, 2013, 07:24:41 PM
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!!!!!!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-10-18/no-more-mass-changes
Should help a little for SC finals!
I honestly don't see where in the amended rule it says you can't rest players. The rule says this...
Rule 29, 'To Perform on One's Merits', now reads: "(It) means at all times to perform honestly and to the best of one's ability in the pursuit only of legitimate competitive objectives.
"For the avoidance of doubt "legitimate competitive objective" includes the development of the team or players or management of player fatigue or injuries but does not include improving a club's draft position, improving a club's position with respect to a potential player exchange or manipulating a club's position on the ladder for the purpose of improving its draw within the finals series."
So it says you can rest players for management of player fatigue or injuries, but not to improve position in the draft or manipulating the draw in the finals series. Freo rested players to manage fatigue and avoid injuries going in to the finals. They couldn't be moved from their position on the ladder either so they weren't affecting the finals series at all.
So can someone explain how this is going to stop them? Honestly don't see it...
;D Sorry fellas I won't go through 42 pages to see if anyone mentioned sammy Mitchell, especially if he gets backman or DPP. :o
Quote from: frenzy on October 27, 2013, 08:55:41 PM
;D Sorry fellas I won't go through 42 pages to see if anyone mentioned sammy Mitchell, especially if he gets backman or DPP. :o
Haha only about 100 times ;)
Yeah hoping he gets DPP. Will be so many options next year!