In breaking news, tbagrocks, JBs-Hawks and whatles have been banned for 3 weeks.
This means they will not be able to name their XVs teams, take part in votes or whatever else a coach is required to do. So they will need either someone else to do it OR the mod of their particular comp to do it.
JB and lez have assistants that can cover for them but tbagrocks is looking for an assistant at his Asians club, the Tibet Llamas.
Will keep you informed :)
P.S. If tbag can't find an assistant in Asians, I am happy to name a team for him that he will send to me on Thursday night. :)
#PrayForTheBannedBoys
#3weeksofpeace
Quote from: ChinggyT on April 16, 2013, 06:12:42 PM
Damn it whatlez >:( Stop being so aggressive.
lol hey lez welcome back :P
two comments.
1. I rate all these three guys very highly and expect to see them back in the FF community once the ban is served, all valued members of the community.
2. I am disappointed that 3 THREE members of the AXVS have been banned. I would hope that the behaviour that caused these bans will be addressed by these three upon their return as it is not a great reflection on the AXVS to have 3 THREE of our members banned from the forum.
I have not heard of this until now and have not seen the cause of the bans but hopefully things and people will settle down a little and we will not have any issues going forward.
In regards to the AXVS team submissions and duties I will stand by these three and in the event teams are not named by assistants I will name what I feel is the genuine best team they have on their behalf.
There will be no negative repercussions on these three as far as AXVS is concerned, however I do hereby voice my disappointment that they have all somewhat sullied the fine and outstanding reputation of the most revered XVS competition in the land...
well at least internally it is :)
We all have bad days I had one after the Pies were pathetic but still looked great compared to all my fantasy teams, however even in our darkest football and fantasy days we must remain respectful in the forum and avoid bad behaviour.
Maybe next time Mod who applied the bans please let me know so I can for one try to help address the issue, and two make arrangements for the competition as it impacts every other team not just the one being banned.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 16, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Maybe next time Mod who applied the bans please let me know so I can for one try to help address the issue, and two make arrangements for the competition as it impacts every other team not just the one being banned.
The ban was by m0nty I think CW, he's the only one that can ban people iirc... Think he just came on and saw a little spat between the boys and just banned them :-X
Quote from: Toga on April 16, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 16, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Maybe next time Mod who applied the bans please let me know so I can for one try to help address the issue, and two make arrangements for the competition as it impacts every other team not just the one being banned.
The ban was by m0nty I think CW, he's the only one that can ban people iirc... Think he just came on and saw a little spat between the boys and just banned them :-X
Well that is his right :)
and they should know better :-X
two of them i had warned previously >:(
i'll prob be posting teams for JBs in AXV
best 3 weeks ever.
Quote from: Ziplock on April 16, 2013, 10:28:40 PM
best 3 weeks ever.
Haha, no one to talk trash on the Asian board, how will we survive?
does anyone know what they said??
sorry i'm a nosey barbie :P
Quote from: brad on April 16, 2013, 10:58:01 PM
does anyone know what they said??
sorry i'm a nosey barbie :P
Was wondering the same thing mate so that makes two nosey barbies. Although i can well imagine the way they get into it at times. They need to relax and pull their heads in a bit wouldnt you say ChinggyT. :P
TBag posted a topic in the feedback board about banning Jormas cause he was a troll. JB then replied that he was a troll and the arguments started and Watlez came in.
Quote from: nrich102 on April 17, 2013, 07:53:22 AM
TBag posted a topic in the feedback board about banning Jormas cause he was a troll. JB then replied that he was a troll and the arguments started and Watlez came in.
I saw the start of it, must of escalated a bit. :-\
I chimed in as well, quite lucky to have my hide saved. :P
Anyway, I will be posting for JB's English and Worlds teams. :)
Quote from: KoopKicka on April 17, 2013, 12:21:35 PM
I chimed in as well, quite lucky to have my hide saved. :P
Anyway, I will be posting for JB's English and Worlds teams. :)
I seen the start as well so as Grazz said must of escalated as there did not seem too much in it early. Thread has been deleted so can not check (Me being Nosey).
Probably a mistake to start having an argument in the Feedback thread the one thread m0nty probably keeps an eye on.
Any way thanks Koop for posting JB's team in British.
Quote from: ChinggyT on April 16, 2013, 10:30:37 PM
That whatlez guy got 31 days :o
Wow, m0nty not taking any prisoners !!!
Only just noticing this now
I will speak to them when they get back, however one would hope lessons will have well and truly be learnt by then.
certainly entertaining having them all around, but there is a line. we all have bad days but that doesn't change the position of the line :)
Quote from: Toga on April 16, 2013, 07:40:17 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 16, 2013, 07:28:42 PM
Maybe next time Mod who applied the bans please let me know so I can for one try to help address the issue, and two make arrangements for the competition as it impacts every other team not just the one being banned.
The ban was by m0nty I think CW, he's the only one that can ban people iirc... Think he just came on and saw a little spat between the boys and just banned them :-X
Yep, I never knew until was told about it on chat! m0nty only person able to give out bans and did it so swiftly didn't know until told :P.
Just found at that whatlez is permanently banned :o
Quote from: Jayman on April 17, 2013, 06:49:08 PM
Just found at that whatlez is permanently banned :o
Yeah, he just told me. Think it was because he used his other account when Whatlez was banned. Only thing I can think of. IP banned as well so not sure what will happen to the XV's he's involved in :-\.
Quote from: Jayman on April 17, 2013, 06:49:08 PM
Just found at that whatlez is permanently banned :o
Have asked Os to look into this. I saw nothing of this that led to the ban, I have seen some nonsense between two of the guys , some nonsense between one of them and jormas, and some nonsense from one of them that reminds me of a drunk teenager in a metalica shirt on a rage.
spoken to all of them about all of it but i am just a XVS mod, so while all the banter aside there has never been any real hostility or line crossing in AXVS, or at least not extreme instances and any instances have been deleted and people warned. I have no say outside our little AXVS world.
Anyway, the standards of FF are well knows to guys who have been around as long as they have so they shouldn't need to have been told by any mod.
Os will get to the bottom of whatlezs perma ban and we can work out what the real deal is and go from there. He may just be banned that way so he cant make other accounts to get around the ban, or he may have gone too far and Monty may have no patience left, but until Os ( i think the right person) finds out more we just wait and see....
may be a few new coaching roles, hopefully not whatlez for all his faults seems a decent guy- again young - and like all young people - prone to random acts of senseless stupidity.
i speak from experience yes. you can't learn anything without flowering it up a few times first.
l saw the thread, and it did deteriorate and got pretty ugly. With it actually leading to threats of physical violence, there was even a challenge to turn up to a certain venue on a particular night.
l dont think it's appropriate for me to go into who said what, but that was the guts of what l saw there. l dont know if things went any further than that or if more was said though
Yeh saw something about rolling up to the Alma or something, had to have a laugh as i thought it was funny that it could get to that point but none the less it did.
I sincerely hope none have life bans and will have learnt from this that that path is not one to go down in open view for all members to see if they came across it. I can understand m0nty nipping it in the butt as rapidly as he did as that would be one of the last things he'd want going on in the forums so fair enough but life bans would be to me a little over the top but its not my site and its not my decision.
lf lessons are learnt it's a positive thing in the long run
Quote from: nostradamus on April 17, 2013, 09:27:23 PM
lf lessons are learnt it's a positive thing in the long run
IF
if that is what went on then they are very lucky that its only a 3 week ban, should have been more imo.
The last thing you want to see if you are m0nty, is stuff like this going on in your forum that you have spent so much time and hard work building. I am 100% behind you m0nty
is Lez really banned permanently?
knowing all 3 pretty well as i feel that i do, i am certain it is and was all p!ssing in the wind, a lot of hot air and nothing else.
but there is clearly no place for it on a public forum and the result of the ban seems to prove that point.
hopefully all three will return and i am pretty sure there will be further indiscretions but i am also certain all are decent and intelligent enough for none of the future indiscretions to be ban worthy...
we will see
for what it is worth whatlez spoke to me through external means after the ban and not once did he complain or claim the ban was unfair or say anything negative about m0nty for banning him. obviously big enough a guy to know the line was crossed and the punishment justified.
the fact it is alleged he came back on under another accout obviously was a source of much frustration to m0nty, whatever m0nty decides is his peragative and fair enough, but i would like to think we will see these lads again and have faith in their ability to be ....
rehabilitated ;)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 17, 2013, 10:41:25 PM
knowing all 3 pretty well as i feel that i do, i am certain it is and was all p!ssing in the wind, a lot of hot air and nothing else.
but there is clearly no place for it on a public forum and the result of the ban seems to prove that point.
hopefully all three will return and i am pretty sure there will be further indiscretions but i am also certain all are decent and intelligent enough for none of the future indiscretions to be ban worthy...
we will see
for what it is worth whatlez spoke to me through external means after the ban and not once did he complain or claim the ban was unfair or say anything negative about m0nty for banning him. obviously big enough a guy to know the line was crossed and the punishment justified.
the fact it is alleged he came back on under another accout obviously was a source of much frustration to m0nty, whatever m0nty decides is his peragative and fair enough, but i would like to think we will see these lads again and have faith in their ability to be ....
rehabilitated ;)
Yeh amen to that mate. One would think a 3 week ban would be sufficient to nip it in the butt. All three are intelligent and wise enough to know a repeat wouldnt be tolerated and the trouble maker would more than likely be out for good. I have no qualms with m0nty's actions but hope it is only for 3 weeks for the boys sakes.
Ok so I've just been talking to Lez about the whole matter on chat. This is what he sees when he tries to log on to his account on the computer:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This ban is not set to expire.
But when he tries to log on to his account from his phone/wifi, this is what he sees:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This is set to expire on the 14th of May.
To me, this says that his IP address has been banned indefinitely (probably just to make sure he doesn't create another account (:P), but his whatlez account is banned for 4 weeks, and will become available to use again midway through May. Not sure if we are on the right track here but it seems to me like whatlez has had his IP has been banned indefinitely so that he serves his ban as m0nty sees fit - without using alter-ego accounts.
So it seems like whatlez will be back, it's just a matter of m0nty lifting the ban on his IP address (which hopefully he is planning to do once the account's ban is lifted).
:)
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Ok so I've just been talking to Lez about the whole matter on chat. This is what he sees when he tries to log on to his account on the computer:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This ban is not set to expire.
But when he tries to log on to his account from his phone/wifi, this is what he sees:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This is set to expire on the 14th of May.
To me, this says that his IP address has been banned indefinitely (probably just to make sure he doesn't create another account (:P), but his whatlez account is banned for 4 weeks, and will become available to use again midway through May. Not sure if we are on the right track here but it seems to me like whatlez has had his IP has been banned indefinitely so that he serves his ban as m0nty sees fit - without using alter-ego accounts.
So it seems like whatlez will be back, it's just a matter of m0nty lifting the ban on his IP address (which hopefully he is planning to do once the account's ban is lifted).
:)
Hopefully it is just temporary, but when you're chatting to him next Toga maybe suggest to him that it's time for ChingyT to commit hari kari ;)
Thanks for the update Toga, really hope thats the case.
Just got off the chat and all 3 were there and happy to say getting along very well which was great to see so i have no doubt theyve realised it wasnt worth it. Good to have a chat to them and wish them all the best untill their return. JB and Tbag got 3 weeks and Lez got 4 weeks. Best part all getting along. :)
Hi CW and all, I don't have much of a problem with what m0nty did and will back it up. Harsh for permanent ban, but I think that was only done because of the second account, if still banned after a month, will ask m0nty what's what.
yeah they just chose the wrong forum to have an argument lol
i think mOnty will pay more attention to the feedback forum now and to me he seems like he wouldn't like people wasting his time whch that thread was a huge waste of so that prob annoyed him to
Quote from: ossie85 on April 18, 2013, 05:53:55 AM
Hi CW and all, I don't have much of a problem with what m0nty did and will back it up. Harsh for permanent ban, but I think that was only done because of the second account, if still banned after a month, will ask m0nty what's what.
Great mate, thanks for the details, doubt anyone is going to disagree with m0nty or yourself, do the crime do the time :)
just wanted to know the outcome more of whatlez for XVS purposes.
The naughty corner it is for the three of them.
Far from the first time we have had to send someone to the naughty corner in AXVS.....
For the World comp, it shouldn't matter as whatlez isn't involved and the other two have co-coaches....
Understand a huge impact for the other comps though.....
I can step in and run their teams ;)
Tbh I think the Ales should be banned from entering a team this week as punishment :P ;) >:D
Quote from: Toga on April 18, 2013, 10:58:07 AM
Tbh I think the Ales should be banned from entering a team this week as punishment :P ;) >:D
i already submitted the Ales team :P
Will need to contact Whatlez and see how we can arrange lodgement of Team. He does not have assistants in British but lodged this weeks team prior to ban.
Agree with the ban but think a permanent ban is harsh for Lez but as Toga said hopefully will be reviewed in May at end of 31 days ban for Lez.
Trust these guys have learned their lesson and will come back as strong contributors once again.
The real problem I think was wrong thread to have the argument to deteriorate in. Probably the one watches more than others.
Lez said that I can lodge his Brits team. He will FB it to me and I'll copy it in :)
Thanks Ele I was going to offer him to email me if need be.
Has a strong team and would hate to see his team suffer,
No probs mate!
Quote from: Ringo on April 18, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Thanks Ele I was going to offer him to email me if need be.
Has a strong team and would hate LOVE to see his team suffer,
"fixed"
;D
Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 18, 2013, 09:05:30 PM
Quote from: Ringo on April 18, 2013, 04:54:02 PM
Thanks Ele I was going to offer him to email me if need be.
Has a strong team and would hate LOVE to see his team suffer,
"fixed"
;D
Thought of that myself but being administrator maintained impartiality.
Kind of ironic that the thread was about banning Jormas and ended with three people being banned, none of them Jormas.
Assistant to JB's in the Euros so will be doing that team, have lodged it this week.
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Ok so I've just been talking to Lez about the whole matter on chat. This is what he sees when he tries to log on to his account on the computer:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This ban is not set to expire.
But when he tries to log on to his account from his phone/wifi, this is what he sees:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This is set to expire on the 14th of May.
To me, this says that his IP address has been banned indefinitely (probably just to make sure he doesn't create another account (:P), but his whatlez account is banned for 4 weeks, and will become available to use again midway through May. Not sure if we are on the right track here but it seems to me like whatlez has had his IP has been banned indefinitely so that he serves his ban as m0nty sees fit - without using alter-ego accounts.
So it seems like whatlez will be back, it's just a matter of m0nty lifting the ban on his IP address (which hopefully he is planning to do once the account's ban is lifted).
:)
This is correct.
Thanks for the clarification m0nty! :D
Quote from: m0nty on April 19, 2013, 05:00:59 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 17, 2013, 11:02:39 PM
Ok so I've just been talking to Lez about the whole matter on chat. This is what he sees when he tries to log on to his account on the computer:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This ban is not set to expire.
But when he tries to log on to his account from his phone/wifi, this is what he sees:
An Error Has Occurred!Sorry Guest, you are banned from using this forum!This is set to expire on the 14th of May.
To me, this says that his IP address has been banned indefinitely (probably just to make sure he doesn't create another account (:P), but his whatlez account is banned for 4 weeks, and will become available to use again midway through May. Not sure if we are on the right track here but it seems to me like whatlez has had his IP has been banned indefinitely so that he serves his ban as m0nty sees fit - without using alter-ego accounts.
So it seems like whatlez will be back, it's just a matter of m0nty lifting the ban on his IP address (which hopefully he is planning to do once the account's ban is lifted).
:)
This is correct.
So does that mean whatlez' ban is lifted after May 14th?
That is how interpret the response Ele. That IP address will be unbanned on May 14th as well.
Yep that's what I thought. Whatlez was just after a more clear answer but I think he gets it :)
what he is after is a kick in his bum ;D
Ok I've suffered for a long month and my ip address is still banned :( update monts?
Maybe post in feedback lez you will be more likely to get through?
Quote from: Toga on May 14, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
Maybe post in feedback lez you will be more likely to get through?
He's seen this thread before....
Quote from: whatlez on May 14, 2013, 07:13:44 PM
Quote from: Toga on May 14, 2013, 07:05:44 PM
Maybe post in feedback lez you will be more likely to get through?
He's seen this thread before....
Welcome back Lez, i agree the feed back section would get action faster.
#savewhatlez
#savewhatlez
#cut4whatlez
#cut3goss #chatlads