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I haven't been on this forum all that much, Im a very casual user and only discovered what a "boo" was a couple of months ago, but I must say.... what a ridiculous, belittling and disheartening concept the Boo'ing system is.

I have noticed while looking throughout the forum that most people have more "Boo's" than "Cheers". I was confused as to how so many people could be made to look like bad judges of football, bad advice givers or talk a lot of crap. After all if they have more boo's that cheers then they must be wrong more often than right?
Well no not at all. In fact the people with so many boo's I have found to give more to the forum than anyone else. A number of people with more Boo's than cheers I have seen give nothing but advice and an opinion and they are crucified for it. What a ridiculous thing to "boo" people that give honest advice and feedback to the forum.

I came on here after a week of not being on and my "boo count" had climbed by 15 boo's. How is that even possible?
Say a word out of line and you will no doubt be booed 10+ times but give someone some helpful advice and you will be lucky to get 1 cheer. What a joke.

To the people that say "ignore it, Dont concentrate on boo's". Thats all good and well for the people that have been on this forum for a length of time and know the good and bad posters but for someone new like myself that may not have looked into it like I did would look at someone s boo count and dismiss what they said immediately thinking that they must have a reputation for giving bogus advice.
Its a dumb concept and it's abused way to often... clearly.

Keep the cheers so that the good posters are rewarded but get rid of the boo's. It makes a mockery out of the posters reputation and is of no benefit other than to put people down anonymously

yeah threads like this have been made about it before

i also think it's a fairly stupid part of FF people give a boo without a second thought but rarely give a cheer the system is crap it's the only thing i hate about FF

OH that and Jukes's avatar lol


here's a thread i made about it ages ago

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,61421.0.html

Sounds like someone is complaining about having a bad cheeer/boo ratio :P But yeah, not a good idea. If it could be implented to a post by post thing, then those +1 posts can disappear and we can see the true value in posts. :) (Not sure if this is possible though)

Yeah its definitely an abused system. Ive been on here long enough to know not to even consider someones cheer to boo ratio when considering their advice but I can see how a new comer would look at someone's ratio and assume they are a bullshower artist if they have a bad ratio. Its not a good indicator at all.
My Cheer to boo ratio is pretty good but i do remember posting my thoughts about Melbournes recruiting strategy earlier in the year and I copped like 30 boo's in 2 days. Then on the other hand I have spent hours on here in the off season doing player profiles, team rates and advice etc and got maybe 5 cheers if im lucky lol. I dont care, I do it because I enjoy giving advice but its funny how it works. Would't mind there only being a cheer count

yeah I dont even pay attention to it tbh. Lots of XV coaches copped a lot of boos early on in the initial draft from pissed ff rival caches :P

Boo lol. Nah yeah I am the king.

It would be good to see which posts are getting cheered/booed.

I'm currently going through one of those periods where I'm getting booed and have no idea why. Going to keep doing my thing regardless. 8)

Most of the seasoned coaches usually could not care less about the boo to cheer ratio. Like most coaches when you post something that someone disagrees with you boo count goes up greatly. Had been off line for a time and my boo count went up 75.

Basically does not worry me as I will continue to post and give advice as I see fit.

To avoid criticism, do nothing, say nothing, and be nothing.

_________________________________________

If you post on here, there will always be critics of one's opinion, but people seem be very boo centric on here.  :P

Quote from: whatlez on December 21, 2012, 07:50:53 PM
Boo lol. Nah yeah I am the king.

King of all he surveys...lol... ;D

Would love it if the system worked that you could see which posts were cheered/booed then our Avatar's could just have the total tally with a link to all cheered posts and all booed posts.

That way people can see the 'good' posts other people are being cheered for and can also review the 'bad' posts that seem to draw a negative response.

Chin up TeeJay, it's only a silly number on a computer screen ;D

totally agree, you give advice and if they don't like it they boo you but if they do like it then nothing.

Nobody looks at it, i wouldn't worry

Grammar mistakes will get you boo's on here lol.

Sneezing and not covering your nose/mouth will get you booed here.  :P
Ringos boo count is ridiculous but thats how it goes,put yourself out there
by posting advice etc and you get this. Crazy.  :-\

I dont even know how I get cheers :P

Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 21, 2012, 08:11:08 PM
It would be good to see which posts are getting cheered/booed.

I'm currently going through one of those periods where I'm getting booed and have no idea why. Going to keep doing my thing regardless. 8)

Yeah me too. Not fussed by it really, but it would be nice to see what I have said the offend someone.

This is exactly my point though. All of you saying not to worry about it and that you dont pay attention to it are seasoned posters. You know that its bullshower. New people dont know that though. They see it and discard the advice of someone with a lot of boo's or cop 20 boo's for giving an opinion and dont bother posting anymore. I know this is the case because I thought it myself until I looked into it.

Why not just get rid of the boo's all together? Of what use are they?
All they do is make people not bother posting or not listen to advice from people with alot of boo's. Nothing good comes from them

Just learn, either have no opinion or be outspoken like me. lol.

in lez's case, dont ignore the ratio.

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
This is exactly my point though. All of you saying not to worry about it and that you dont pay attention to it are seasoned posters. You know that its bullshower. New people dont know that though. They see it and discard the advice of someone with a lot of boo's or cop 20 boo's for giving an opinion and dont bother posting anymore. I know this is the case because I thought it myself until I looked into it.

Why not just get rid of the boo's all together? Of what use are they?
All they do is make people not bother posting or not listen to advice from people with alot of boo's. Nothing good comes from them

Not exactelly correct, newbies don't seem to get boo'd unless they post rubbish, or think they're better than everyone i.e, you and DT gun, or like me like to either be bias or controversial

Either way champ, maybe start contributing to the forum intead of whinging about trivial stuff!

Tbag he ain't the only one not happy with the system can tell that just by looking at the votes

Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2012, 05:59:47 AM
I dont even know how I get cheers :P

Actually that's me too. Only started posting a bit this off season and have no idea how come I got cheers, no idea how come boos, what it means or why bother.

If anyone can explain I'd be interested.

you cant cheer/  boo until you have like 50 posts or something.

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 07:43:22 PM

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 06:47:12 PM
This is exactly my point though. All of you saying not to worry about it and that you dont pay attention to it are seasoned posters. You know that its bullshower. New people dont know that though. They see it and discard the advice of someone with a lot of boo's or cop 20 boo's for giving an opinion and dont bother posting anymore. I know this is the case because I thought it myself until I looked into it.

Why not just get rid of the boo's all together? Of what use are they?
All they do is make people not bother posting or not listen to advice from people with alot of boo's. Nothing good comes from them

Not exactelly correct, newbies don't seem to get boo'd unless they post rubbish, or think they're better than everyone i.e, you and DT gun, or like me like to either be bias or controversial

Either way champ, maybe start contributing to the forum intead of whinging about trivial stuff!

How do I think im better than anyone....?
It wouldn't matter what I posted, you would disagree with it because you have a grudge against me since our vfl/sanfl debate.

Ya dont have to post rubbish or be controversial to get boo'd. Most people have more boo's than cheers so unless this whole forum is full of half wits that post lies and rubbish then the system is obviously a bad one that is inaccurate on a persons knowledge and reputation.

Tbag, as a new comer I might get some advice from you but see your amount of Boo's and think you dont know what you're talking about when you actually do....... Oh wait, bad example.... you really dont know what you're talking about  ::)
But anyway. Someone else with more boo's than cheers I would be very sceptical of taking advice from unless I knew better, which luckily I do now but there are plenty out there that dont

Wrong again champ ::) My examples are spot on for the way newbies getting get boo'd, you claimed to be a "know it all" and "smarter than everyone" I don't have a grudge, you're just proving yourself to be a bad person.

When was the last time you contributed to the forum? Rest my case, are you just one of these type's that just read everything and rairly add to the discussion?

Not to late to start over champ! This is the best site fot sport and certainly fantasy football anywhere ever, try getting involved instead of trolling once a week :P

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 21, 2012, 07:21:38 PM
Sounds like someone is complaining about having a bad cheeer/boo ratio :P But yeah, not a good idea. If it could be implented to a post by post thing, then those +1 posts can disappear and we can see the true value in posts. :) (Not sure if this is possible though)

Think this was the preferred method but don't think it's available add on for the forum :(.

I totally see where you're coming from TeeJay, the Boos are useless and any new users who only come on to get advice will look and see people with high boo:cheer ratio and more likely to disregard them. Regulars won't care about it, but more casual users will not know how people get so many and all (drafts, annoying others, criticism, etc).

I've never been a fan of booing, don't think I've given out a boo since it was introduced. I don't care for my ratio as barely post these days (Added like 400 posts in the past year in counted sections). Have received like 200 Cheers in the past 2 months which I have no clue how... It's a flawed system with being able to boo people over trivial little things, why at the start I got people to boo me for no reason. I'm for the individual post but don't think that's possible.

Think if we could just keep the Cheers alone, much more positive for the forum and takes out the negative :).

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 08:56:36 PM
Wrong again champ ::) My examples are spot on for the way newbies getting get boo'd, you claimed to be a "know it all" and "smarter than everyone" I don't have a grudge, you're just proving yourself to be a bad person.

When was the last time you contributed to the forum? Rest my case, are you just one of these type's that just read everything and rairly add to the discussion?

Not to late to start over champ! This is the best site fot sport and certainly fantasy football anywhere ever, try getting involved instead of trolling once a week :P

This isnt just about newbies mate. The seasoned posters have some of the worst ratios of all...
Why are you saying things in quotation marks like they were words I used? We had a debate on a topic and you obviously still loose sleep over it.. Get over it.

This forum isn't just for people who come on every day and spend hours on here tbag, Its a free forum for anyone who wants to come on weather they post daily or just have a look. I dont have to post every 5 minutes.
And how have I trolled? Because I said the VFL is better than the SANFL and gave you reasons why... that's trolling? Yeah good on ya mate. Get a list of comebacks and evidence prepared for your next debate so you dont have to sulk for months after you lose your next one.

Quote from: Hellopplz on December 22, 2012, 08:56:55 PM

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 21, 2012, 07:21:38 PM
Sounds like someone is complaining about having a bad cheeer/boo ratio :P But yeah, not a good idea. If it could be implented to a post by post thing, then those +1 posts can disappear and we can see the true value in posts. :) (Not sure if this is possible though)

Think this was the preferred method but don't think it's available add on for the forum :(.

I totally see where you're coming from TeeJay, the Boos are useless and any new users who only come on to get advice will look and see people with high boo:cheer ratio and more likely to disregard them. Regulars won't care about it, but more casual users will not know how people get so many and all (drafts, annoying others, criticism, etc).

I've never been a fan of booing, don't think I've given out a boo since it was introduced. I don't care for my ratio as barely post these days (Added like 400 posts in the past year in counted sections). Have received like 200 Cheers in the past 2 months which I have no clue how... It's a flawed system with being able to boo people over trivial little things, why at the start I got people to boo me for no reason. I'm for the individual post but don't think that's possible.

Think if we could just keep the Cheers alone, much more positive for the forum and takes out the negative :).

Exactly right. I just dont see how it is of any benefit at all. Its degrading and misleading.
If there cant be a system where only individual comments are cheerd and bood then just get rid of the boos all together and keep the cheers. So good posters are still rewarded without having to hold back on an opinion in fear of getting boo'd 100 times

What I would like to know is, how many people have not voiced there opinion before or gave criticism or feedback because they thought they would get boo'd??
Ill admit early days I didnt post on a few occasions because I knew I would just get boo'd. Now I dont care, I just say what i think but when i was relatively new I did care and was careful because I didnt want a bad Cheer:Boo ratio that made me look bad. Tj is right in that its only the guys that have been on here a while that understand the ratio really means nothing. Its not just a forum for people that have been on here for ages though. Pretty sure it's designed for anyone to join and Monty would want more and more new posters coming in and contributing 

I stopped using Yahoo! Answers because of the thumbs up/thumbs down thing, mainly because some answers were stupid or people would troll, hence why they got a thumbs down. It wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm fairly sure half the reason people cheer or boo a person is because they don't agree with their post. Yet I joined FF with the cheers/boos which is almost the same. It doesn't faze me these days, but I'm not one for controversy or pointless fights over the internet so I watch what I say. However, if I did get more boos, I wouldn't really care. I think the system is fine though, from what I've seen in my four months here, nobody really cares about cheers/boos.

Fair enough I can't stop you from being stupid, if you still think you won the debate "good luck" oh no did I just use quotation marks :-[ Somebody stop me (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-bounce018.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

Turns out you're right champ! The forum is for anyone. What we don't need is your type calling people an idiot whenever we think we are simply smarter than the poster.

Again I will say it, just try adding to the forum :P Who the frog cares what I think, simply get amongst it!

Yeah what your saying is true for the new members, it would be off putting to post an opinion to only be boo'ed for that opinion. Would make a newer member reluctant to post again. Should be scrapped tbh, doesn't bring that much to the site. As Ive said before how Ringo can have as many boo's as he does is just ridiculous.

Quote from: NigeyS on December 22, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
I stopped using Yahoo! Answers because of the thumbs up/thumbs down thing, mainly because some answers were stupid or people would troll, hence why they got a thumbs down. It wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm fairly sure half the reason people cheer or boo a person is because they don't agree with their post. Yet I joined FF with the cheers/boos which is almost the same. It doesn't faze me these days, but I'm not one for controversy or pointless fights over the internet so I watch what I say. However, if I did get more boos, I wouldn't really care. I think the system is fine though, from what I've seen in my four months here, nobody really cares about cheers/boos.

Thats where you're wrong though. People do care. Thats why people have voted yes, get rid of the boo's.
As I have said, people that have been on here for a length of time know not to care. People that are new (who are equally as important to the forum and its growth) do care. I can garuntee it is one of the main reasons that the forum has a core group that have stuck on here and a stack load of people that come and go. There is no doubt its intimidating to post your opinion or thoughts on a forum when you know that all of the people on there know each other and have been on there together for a long time. Then when you make a comment you get boo'd 10 times... Really encouraging.

And it's not just trollers that get boo'd If I go onto the Richmond page and start a thread as to why I think Richmond will miss out on the 8 and Hardwick will be sacked at the end of the year. I would cop 20 boo's within 5 minutes garunteed. It wouldnt matter how good my reasons were or if I had some really strong evidence. Its a statement that rubs people the wrong way and they will boo boo boo for voicing an opinion.
On the other hand i could come on with a 10 page report with every player analysed and graded and I might get the odd cheer or 2.
I have taken close notice of it recently. Its just wrong really

Quote from: Grazz on December 22, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
Yeah what your saying is true for the new members, it would be off putting to post an opinion to only be boo'ed for that opinion. Would make a newer member reluctant to post again. Should be scrapped tbh, doesn't bring that much to the site. As Ive said before how Ringo can have as many boo's as he does is just ridiculous.

Yeah exactly grazz and its not uncommon at all for good posters to have a mountain of boo's.
Ringo gives great advice but it would not be unrealistic for a new comer to question how authentic his advice is when it appears he gets it wrong half the time according to his boo's

have you met Jormas on here yet TeeJay lol

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 09:56:19 PM

Quote from: Grazz on December 22, 2012, 09:30:52 PM
Yeah what your saying is true for the new members, it would be off putting to post an opinion to only be boo'ed for that opinion. Would make a newer member reluctant to post again. Should be scrapped tbh, doesn't bring that much to the site. As Ive said before how Ringo can have as many boo's as he does is just ridiculous.

Yeah exactly grazz and its not uncommon at all for good posters to have a mountain of boo's.
Ringo gives great advice but it would not be unrealistic for a new comer to question how authentic his advice is when it appears he gets it wrong half the time according to his boo's

Ringo is a classic example, hence i cant help but agree with you and also for the fact new members are discouraged from posting for fear of a boo thinking it is the be all and end all when it really isnt but this takes time here to realise that. Its not just Ringo there are alot of guys who put in a lot of time and effort to assist someone then they get a boo because its not what the holder of the thread wanted to hear, just silly.

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on December 22, 2012, 10:00:33 PM
have you met Jormas on here yet TeeJay lol

Theres always an exception Killbluff lol. But for the most part its a misconception and pretty insulting to peoples reputations. I would be pissed if I had spent years on here helping people out and giving my advice and opinion and had a cheer/boo ratio that made me out to be a bullshower artist.

It was originally brought in as a way to stop people from posting rubbish (as was occurring earlier)

It was brought in after I suggested it to m0nty in a thread. (Might not have been the first to suggest it however)

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44847.0.html

^ thread is here... I had a whinge after it was in place for 2 minutes.

As you can read in m0nty's first post there, he /was/ planning to introduce cheer/boo per post, but it has clearly never come to fruition.

EDIT: Can't find the thread where I suggested and m0nty agreed to implement it, but I did find a whining thread lol

Can see your point TeeJay and agree with you as I had not previously thought ratios could be a consideration for newbies when looking at who is giving advice.  As I have said previously ratios do not worry me but thanks for putting forward opinion of relative new comers to the forum.

have never really been a fan of the cheers/boo as personalities rather than advice can be the reason behind some of the cheers/boos imo. 

Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

I voted yes cause I want to :P

Quote from: Ringo on December 22, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Can see your point TeeJay and agree with you as I had not previously thought ratios could be a consideration for newbies when looking at who is giving advice.  As I have said previously ratios do not worry me but thanks for putting forward opinion of relative new comers to the forum.

have never really been a fan of the cheers/boo as personalities rather than advice can be the reason behind some of the cheers/boos imo.

+1 early days thats all it was a popularity contest.

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

You dont know that for sure mate could be anyone really. Be nice if you two could agree to disagree and just move on.
Ive been mates with Dudge for the best part of thirty years and we dont agree on everything but we can move on because the relasionship is more valuable than being right or the need to be seen as right.

True Grazz I get boo'd for existing, well I'm encouraging TJ to join in the fun and enjoyment of contributing to the site, cm'on mate I dare ya to join in!

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
True Grazz I get boo'd for existing, well I'm encouraging TJ to join in the fun and enjoyment of contributing to the site, cm'on mate I dare ya to join in!

I join in as much as I feel the need/have the time to tbag. Not everyone can be on here 24/7. There is no wrong or right amount of posts to make per week.
Im simply giving an opinion on why I think the booing thing is a flawed and abused tool and should be removed

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 10:45:20 PM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:39:41 PM
True Grazz I get boo'd for existing, well I'm encouraging TJ to join in the fun and enjoyment of contributing to the site, cm'on mate I dare ya to join in!

I join in as much as I feel the need/have the time to tbag. Not everyone can be on here 24/7. There is no wrong or right amount of posts to make per week.
Im simply giving an opinion on why I think the booing thing is a flawed and abused tool and should be removed

No probs, all good, people choose wether to boo or cheer, the coaches or seasoned posters don't boo anyway the cheer/boo could be coming from the hundreds of users that don't post

Anyway so, how about stop booing me every hour you're online? ZGot a little grudge do ya pal? How about letting it go?

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

Nah that's me. :P

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 22, 2012, 11:50:56 PM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

Nah that's me. :P

I'd expect no less from a Port Adelaide supporter

The Port supporter said to the doctor, "where' the other half of my brain, I can't find it?", the Doc says "I can't find it", so the Port supporter says "Exactelly"

Lol that's pretty lame

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 09:50:49 PM

Quote from: NigeyS on December 22, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
I stopped using Yahoo! Answers because of the thumbs up/thumbs down thing, mainly because some answers were stupid or people would troll, hence why they got a thumbs down. It wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm fairly sure half the reason people cheer or boo a person is because they don't agree with their post. Yet I joined FF with the cheers/boos which is almost the same. It doesn't faze me these days, but I'm not one for controversy or pointless fights over the internet so I watch what I say. However, if I did get more boos, I wouldn't really care. I think the system is fine though, from what I've seen in my four months here, nobody really cares about cheers/boos.

Thats where you're wrong though. People do care. Thats why people have voted yes, get rid of the boo's.
As I have said, people that have been on here for a length of time know not to care. People that are new (who are equally as important to the forum and its growth) do care. I can garuntee it is one of the main reasons that the forum has a core group that have stuck on here and a stack load of people that come and go. There is no doubt its intimidating to post your opinion or thoughts on a forum when you know that all of the people on there know each other and have been on there together for a long time. Then when you make a comment you get boo'd 10 times... Really encouraging.

And it's not just trollers that get boo'd If I go onto the Richmond page and start a thread as to why I think Richmond will miss out on the 8 and Hardwick will be sacked at the end of the year. I would cop 20 boo's within 5 minutes garunteed. It wouldnt matter how good my reasons were or if I had some really strong evidence. Its a statement that rubs people the wrong way and they will boo boo boo for voicing an opinion.
On the other hand i could come on with a 10 page report with every player analysed and graded and I might get the odd cheer or 2.
I have taken close notice of it recently. Its just wrong really

It is true that if you started a post on the Richmond page or any team page for that matter saying that they wont make the 8 and their coach will be axed you will always get booed by their fans and never get cheered even if you are correct.  I can see Hardwick getting the axe if they don't make the 8 but I don't know much about the Tigers team to justify them not making the 8. But this is not to say that its the Tigers fans that are the ones that are booing you. There are some real passionate fans out there and nobody likes hearing that their team will struggle and not make the 8.

I agree with hat you are saying and thats why there are alot of threads in Rate my DT/SC that dont have many replies on them. I believe people have stopped commenting on other peoples DT/SC teams as they know as soon as they make a comment on their team they will get booed if you dont say i 100% like your team and it will be a winner!!!

As long as you can justify what you are writing then i cant see a problem with what anyone writes. Writing a 10 page report on some players wont necessarily get you cheers either as if you write something that someone disagrees with then they will be booed for that one comment and not cheered for the rest of it.

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2012, 12:02:41 AM

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 22, 2012, 11:50:56 PM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

Nah that's me. :P

I'd expect no less from a Port Adelaide supporter

The Port supporter said to the doctor, "where' the other half of my brain, I can't find it?", the Doc says "I can't find it", so the Port supporter says "Exactelly"

Lol that's pretty lame

I have to admit, I have boo'd Tbag today lol

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 09:50:49 PM

Quote from: NigeyS on December 22, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
I stopped using Yahoo! Answers because of the thumbs up/thumbs down thing, mainly because some answers were stupid or people would troll, hence why they got a thumbs down. It wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm fairly sure half the reason people cheer or boo a person is because they don't agree with their post. Yet I joined FF with the cheers/boos which is almost the same. It doesn't faze me these days, but I'm not one for controversy or pointless fights over the internet so I watch what I say. However, if I did get more boos, I wouldn't really care. I think the system is fine though, from what I've seen in my four months here, nobody really cares about cheers/boos.

Thats where you're wrong though. People do care. Thats why people have voted yes, get rid of the boo's.
As I have said, people that have been on here for a length of time know not to care. People that are new (who are equally as important to the forum and its growth) do care. I can garuntee it is one of the main reasons that the forum has a core group that have stuck on here and a stack load of people that come and go. There is no doubt its intimidating to post your opinion or thoughts on a forum when you know that all of the people on there know each other and have been on there together for a long time. Then when you make a comment you get boo'd 10 times... Really encouraging.

And it's not just trollers that get boo'd If I go onto the Richmond page and start a thread as to why I think Richmond will miss out on the 8 and Hardwick will be sacked at the end of the year. I would cop 20 boo's within 5 minutes garunteed. It wouldnt matter how good my reasons were or if I had some really strong evidence. Its a statement that rubs people the wrong way and they will boo boo boo for voicing an opinion.
On the other hand i could come on with a 10 page report with every player analysed and graded and I might get the odd cheer or 2.
I have taken close notice of it recently. Its just wrong really

If it makes you feel better, I cheered you because of your passion and dedication to this cause.  :)

Quote from: NigeyS on December 23, 2012, 12:21:15 AM

Quote from: TeeJay on December 22, 2012, 09:50:49 PM

Quote from: NigeyS on December 22, 2012, 09:23:50 PM
I stopped using Yahoo! Answers because of the thumbs up/thumbs down thing, mainly because some answers were stupid or people would troll, hence why they got a thumbs down. It wouldn't make much of a difference. I'm fairly sure half the reason people cheer or boo a person is because they don't agree with their post. Yet I joined FF with the cheers/boos which is almost the same. It doesn't faze me these days, but I'm not one for controversy or pointless fights over the internet so I watch what I say. However, if I did get more boos, I wouldn't really care. I think the system is fine though, from what I've seen in my four months here, nobody really cares about cheers/boos.

Thats where you're wrong though. People do care. Thats why people have voted yes, get rid of the boo's.
As I have said, people that have been on here for a length of time know not to care. People that are new (who are equally as important to the forum and its growth) do care. I can garuntee it is one of the main reasons that the forum has a core group that have stuck on here and a stack load of people that come and go. There is no doubt its intimidating to post your opinion or thoughts on a forum when you know that all of the people on there know each other and have been on there together for a long time. Then when you make a comment you get boo'd 10 times... Really encouraging.

And it's not just trollers that get boo'd If I go onto the Richmond page and start a thread as to why I think Richmond will miss out on the 8 and Hardwick will be sacked at the end of the year. I would cop 20 boo's within 5 minutes garunteed. It wouldnt matter how good my reasons were or if I had some really strong evidence. Its a statement that rubs people the wrong way and they will boo boo boo for voicing an opinion.
On the other hand i could come on with a 10 page report with every player analysed and graded and I might get the odd cheer or 2.
I have taken close notice of it recently. Its just wrong really

If it makes you feel better, I cheered you because of your passion and dedication to this cause.  :)

I did nothing, because I couldn't be stuffed reading the post :P

Quote from: whatlez on December 23, 2012, 12:16:03 AM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2012, 12:02:41 AM

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 22, 2012, 11:50:56 PM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

Nah that's me. :P

I'd expect no less from a Port Adelaide supporter

The Port supporter said to the doctor, "where' the other half of my brain, I can't find it?", the Doc says "I can't find it", so the Port supporter says "Exactelly"

Lol that's pretty lame

I have to admit, I have boo'd Tbag today lol

Frog, I've been hit today, lol for a minute I had my cheers doing alright, there's the problem, what the frog did I do :-\

I expect it when I am out of line, or say Tex is the greatest ever, but for nothing ???

majority of people are voting against, so....?

Tbag, you think you have done absolutely nothing wrong in this thread?

And for the record, I used to care about my ratio but now that I realise there is no such thing as cheering I don't mind anymore. Still against the system though.

I thought you said you don't care tbag? ::)

I don't even remember wat I was on yesterday lol. I get boo'd on average 4 boo's a day lo,

What the frog did I ever do, you serious?  (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-confused005.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

I get boo'd for having an opinion, what did I do wrong?

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2012, 12:32:24 AM

Quote from: whatlez on December 23, 2012, 12:16:03 AM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 23, 2012, 12:02:41 AM

Quote from: SilkySkills on December 22, 2012, 11:50:56 PM

Quote from: tbagrocks on December 22, 2012, 10:24:18 PM
Turns out TJs still booing me when he gets the chance :-X

Nah that's me. :P

I'd expect no less from a Port Adelaide supporter

The Port supporter said to the doctor, "where' the other half of my brain, I can't find it?", the Doc says "I can't find it", so the Port supporter says "Exactelly"

Lol that's pretty lame

I have to admit, I have boo'd Tbag today lol

Frog, I've been hit today, lol for a minute I had my cheers doing alright, there's the problem, what the frog did I do :-\

I expect it when I am out of line, or say Tex is the greatest ever, but for nothing ???

C'mon mate how do you get i did nothing when your second comment is this, "Not exactelly correct, newbies don't seem to get boo'd unless they post rubbish, or think they're better than everyone i.e, you and DT gun, or like me like to either be bias or controversial

Either way champ, maybe start contributing to the forum intead of whinging about trivial stuff!" surely you realise you werent handing out compliments here.

Yeah ok sure, forgive me for fighting a know it all, still kinda fun though, but not my point of being here. Not going to prove innocence, Tex will always be great, Forums will always have trolls, and I will always be ready to look out for a troubled soul,

If I continued to be boo'd for a strong opinion, like foxtel are nazi's, then so be it!

What I've learnt. If you complain about boo's, you will get boo'd

#hatersgonnahate

Just speak your mind and as long as you don't seek to get on people's nerves then you should be fine   :)

another reason why the system is flowered

all it takes is one user to not like you and your ratio will be forever flowered

Well,for what its worth,i would like to put my 2c worth in.
As a new member i have been amazed at the time and effort alot of people put into FF.
The info and advise is fantastic and the chat has been really enjoyable.
I would of thought the more people that join FF the better it would be for Monty and everyone involved.
In that, i think the boo idea totally reduces new peoples input and discourages a lot of new and diverse posts.
The last thing you would want is to upset someone or come across as a know it all.
Whats the point in the boo,really.It totally puts off new people from continuing to input,because if you tell someone new you dont like them, most would say why bother,and move on.
Cheers

Quote from: greenmoon on December 23, 2012, 11:51:11 AM
Well,for what its worth,i would like to put my 2c worth in.
As a new member i have been amazed at the time and effort alot of people put into FF.
The info and advise is fantastic and the chat has been really enjoyable.
I would of thought the more people that join FF the better it would be for Monty and everyone involved.
In that, i think the boo idea totally reduces new peoples input and discourages a lot of new and diverse posts.
The last thing you would want is to upset someone or come across as a know it all.
Whats the point in the boo,really.It totally puts off new people from continuing to input,because if you tell someone new you dont like them, most would say why bother,and move on.
Cheers

I say no, you are not allowed to put your 2c's in ;) :P

Quote from: whatlez on December 23, 2012, 12:04:53 PM

Quote from: greenmoon on December 23, 2012, 11:51:11 AM
Well,for what its worth,i would like to put my 2c worth in.
As a new member i have been amazed at the time and effort alot of people put into FF.
The info and advise is fantastic and the chat has been really enjoyable.
I would of thought the more people that join FF the better it would be for Monty and everyone involved.
In that, i think the boo idea totally reduces new peoples input and discourages a lot of new and diverse posts.
The last thing you would want is to upset someone or come across as a know it all.
Whats the point in the boo,really.It totally puts off new people from continuing to input,because if you tell someone new you dont like them, most would say why bother,and move on.
Cheers

Make it a goldy then mate :D
I say no, you are not allowed to put your 2c's in ;) :P

Does Monty read these sort of things and take them into account?
Doesn't sound like anyone would be against boo's being removed but a lot of people would come out of the closet and contribute more if they weren't around.

Quote from: TeeJay on December 23, 2012, 04:02:25 PM
Does Monty read these sort of things and take them into account?
Doesn't sound like anyone would be against boo's being removed but a lot of people would come out of the closet and contribute more if they weren't around.

Not sure TJ but one would think he should, be hard for him to look at everything i guess.

actually surprised that 9 people have voted to keep them. not sure how they serve any purpose that is positive to the forum

Quote from: quinny88 on December 22, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
What I would like to know is, how many people have not voiced there opinion before or gave criticism or feedback because they thought they would get boo'd??
Ill admit early days I didnt post on a few occasions because I knew I would just get boo'd. Now I dont care, I just say what i think but when i was relatively new I did care and was careful because I didnt want a bad Cheer:Boo ratio that made me look bad. Tj is right in that its only the guys that have been on here a while that understand the ratio really means nothing. Its not just a forum for people that have been on here for ages though. Pretty sure it's designed for anyone to join and Monty would want more and more new posters coming in and contributing

Spot on, couldn't say it better.

I admit, I like to think I dont care about my boo's, but when my boo's take a jump over a short period, I get really deflated, and lose confidence in posting my opinion. And like quinny says:

QuoteWhat I would like to know is, how many people have not voiced there opinion before or gave criticism or feedback because they thought they would get boo'd??

this is a result.

Think m0nty reads this thread though as this is where he gets feedback.  Whether he reads this topic could be debatable.

Quote from: Purple 77 on December 23, 2012, 05:10:07 PM

Quote from: quinny88 on December 22, 2012, 09:19:33 PM
What I would like to know is, how many people have not voiced there opinion before or gave criticism or feedback because they thought they would get boo'd??
Ill admit early days I didnt post on a few occasions because I knew I would just get boo'd. Now I dont care, I just say what i think but when i was relatively new I did care and was careful because I didnt want a bad Cheer:Boo ratio that made me look bad. Tj is right in that its only the guys that have been on here a while that understand the ratio really means nothing. Its not just a forum for people that have been on here for ages though. Pretty sure it's designed for anyone to join and Monty would want more and more new posters coming in and contributing

Spot on, couldn't say it better.

I admit, I like to think I dont care about my boo's, but when my boo's take a jump over a short period, I get really deflated, and lose confidence in posting my opinion. And like quinny says:

QuoteWhat I would like to know is, how many people have not voiced there opinion before or gave criticism or feedback because they thought they would get boo'd??

this is a result.

Yeah look im not one to panic over getting boo'd but I still reword the way I say some things when disagreeing with someone to avoid a wave of boo's.
The mods are there to prevent people swearing and trolling. So if its not those then people should be allowed to write whatever they want and not be crucified for it. Garuntee we would have a much more active and interesting debates without the boo's

I am reading. After Christmas I will make many changes, this will probably be one of them.

Can I just mention that if you mainly post in the front bar that boos seem to be limited...not trying to have a view is not the issue IMO...blandness is not what draws me to this site..its the variey of views...cheers / boos dont drive my interest in what someone has to say..I am a lot more interested in their ranking / seniority level in as much as they have Fantasy Footy experience. ..just thought I'd join in... 8)

Dear listeners,

What other people think of you is none of your business.

Follow that line of thinking and feel the freedom.

PS Boos does not have an apostrophe.  ;)

Quote from: m0nty on December 23, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
I am reading. After Christmas I will make many changes, this will probably be one of them.

Good on ya Monty. Think it will be a change for the better and will see a lot more open conversation and opinion by new users as well as the seasoned users

Quote from: quinny88 on December 24, 2012, 12:38:55 AM

Quote from: m0nty on December 23, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
I am reading. After Christmas I will make many changes, this will probably be one of them.

Good on ya Monty. Think it will be a change for the better and will see a lot more open conversation and opinion by new users as well as the seasoned users

+1 m0nty As Teejay has pointed out in this post cheer/boo ratio may deter newcomers from posting or ignoring advice given by coaches because of adverse ratios.  Will only benefit the site and encourage more discussion.

Quote from: Ringo on December 24, 2012, 09:56:42 AM

Quote from: quinny88 on December 24, 2012, 12:38:55 AM

Quote from: m0nty on December 23, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
I am reading. After Christmas I will make many changes, this will probably be one of them.

Good on ya Monty. Think it will be a change for the better and will see a lot more open conversation and opinion by new users as well as the seasoned users

+1 m0nty As Teejay has pointed out in this post cheer/boo ratio may deter newcomers from posting or ignoring advice given by coaches because of adverse ratios.  Will only benefit the site and encourage more discussion.

make it happen M0nty


Merry Christmas to you as well

A bit off topic but why is everyone wanting to put an apostrophe after boo? Surely it's just boos. Boo'd I can understand, because it could be short for booed. Here come the boos.  :POr is that boo's  :P

Quote from: henry on December 24, 2012, 07:00:02 PM
A bit off topic but why is everyone wanting to put an apostrophe after boo? Surely it's just boos. Boo'd I can understand, because it could be short for booed. Here come the boos.  :POr is that boo's  :P

All those spare apostrophes have to go somewhere when people write your instead of you're. ;)

Quote from: Mr.Craig on December 24, 2012, 08:58:30 PM

Quote from: henry on December 24, 2012, 07:00:02 PM
A bit off topic but why is everyone wanting to put an apostrophe after boo? Surely it's just boos. Boo'd I can understand, because it could be short for booed. Here come the boos.  :POr is that boo's  :P

All those spare apostrophes have to go somewhere when people write your instead of you're. ;)

haha great call! your spot on there! (see what i did there :P)

seriously though, i love it when someone tries to put down someone or whatever and says "your an idiot" ... LOVE IT ;D

With regards the use of the apostrophe - a wise old man once told me you are better off to seem lazy than stuipid.

If in doubt, leave it out.

Any of you's agree?

haha.

generally, unless it is an abbreviation, I leave it out.

however, things like you're/your, its/it's, have no excuse.