QuoteAUSTRALIA'S greatest run-scorer, Ricky Ponting, will retire after the Perth Test against South Africa, ending one of the most distinguished cricketing careers of all time.
http://www.news.com.au/sport/cricket/ricky-ponting-to-retire/story-fndpt0dy-1226526664096
I'm happy about this tbh.. get some young blood in.
Agree, it was about time. Now who to play.... We need to blood some youth before we play England.
Usman/Marsh/Hughes
would not be against any of them getting a run.
Legend, no one should say otherwise
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
Legend, no one should say otherwise
exactly right mate. Congratulations to Ricky for an incredible career. One of the greats.
Quote from: brad on November 29, 2012, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
Legend, no one should say otherwise
exactly right mate. Congratulations to Ricky for an incredible career. One of the greats.
The last member of one of the greatest XIs Australia have ever had (if not the greatest).
JL Langer
ML Hayden
RT Ponting
ME Waugh
SR Waugh (c)
DR Martyn
AC Gilchrist (w)
SK Warne
B Lee
JN Gillespie
GD McGrath
12th - SCG MacGill
^ That XI was outstanding.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: brad on November 29, 2012, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
Legend, no one should say otherwise
exactly right mate. Congratulations to Ricky for an incredible career. One of the greats.
The last member of one of the greatest XIs Australia have ever had (if not the greatest).
JL Langer
ML Hayden
RT Ponting
ME Waugh
SR Waugh (c)
DR Martyn
AC Gilchrist (w)
SK Warne
B Lee
JN Gillespie
GD McGrath
12th - SCG MacGill
^ That XI was outstanding.
Aaaah so many good memories....and what about that MacGill, could only get to be 12th man....a really great team.
Quote from: T Dog on November 29, 2012, 04:52:38 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 04:35:55 PM
Quote from: brad on November 29, 2012, 03:58:17 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 03:52:27 PM
Legend, no one should say otherwise
exactly right mate. Congratulations to Ricky for an incredible career. One of the greats.
The last member of one of the greatest XIs Australia have ever had (if not the greatest).
JL Langer
ML Hayden
RT Ponting
ME Waugh
SR Waugh (c)
DR Martyn
AC Gilchrist (w)
SK Warne
B Lee
JN Gillespie
GD McGrath
12th - SCG MacGill
^ That XI was outstanding.
Aaaah so many good memories....and what about that MacGill, could only get to be 12th man....a really great team.
There was something in the water then
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 29, 2012, 05:02:55 PM
There was something in the water then
Yeah it was mainly VB or XXXX back then.. ;D
NSW: 4
WA: 3
VIC: 1
SA: 1
QLD: 1
TAS: 1
If only the selectors could pick only 4 NSW players these days.... haha It is still a better split than these days. :P
And Ricky Ponting, i know many have criticised his form lately, but he'll be missed in the XI. :'(
Ricky Ponting a legend of the game and there is nothing and noone that can replace him in the Aussie team. An absolute legend and one of the greatest careers, always a competitor. You'll be missed Ricky.
All the best in your future Ricky. An amazing player who will forever be classed as one of world cricket's greats.
Last player from the golden age during the 90s, I'd like to see Khawaja and Hughes bloodied for Sri Lanka series as they are the two best batsmen outside the Test side
I was never a fan of Ricky Ponting, but congratulations to the man on a fantastic career. 8)
Now get my man Khawaja in! ::)
Thanks for the memories Punter, all the best to you at the WACA and into the future.
Well played Punter, great career.
I remember when you were young and got punched in the eye by Carlotta at the "Bat and Ball hotel".
No doubt he will swap the bat for a driver and kick arse on the golf course (plays off 0)
Quote from: tabs on November 29, 2012, 07:23:26 PM
Well played Punter, great career.
I remember when you were young and got punched in the eye by Carlotta at the "Bat and Ball hotel".
No doubt he will swap the bat for a driver and kick arse on the golf course (plays off 0)
I wonder if he might consider taking up gold professionally. He is certainly a good player. Another thing some have talked about him doing is commentating or coaching. I personally would love to see him on the Channel 9 screens next summer.
Quote from: BB67th on November 29, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: tabs on November 29, 2012, 07:23:26 PM
Well played Punter, great career.
I remember when you were young and got punched in the eye by Carlotta at the "Bat and Ball hotel".
No doubt he will swap the bat for a driver and kick arse on the golf course (plays off 0)
I wonder if he might consider taking up gold professionally. He is certainly a good player. Another thing some have talked about him doing is commentating or coaching. I personally would love to see him on the Channel 9 screens next summer.
Taking up gold is such an 1800's thing to do. Can't really see him taking up gold to be honest.
Quote from: Nails on November 29, 2012, 07:41:21 PM
Quote from: BB67th on November 29, 2012, 07:37:30 PM
Quote from: tabs on November 29, 2012, 07:23:26 PM
Well played Punter, great career.
I remember when you were young and got punched in the eye by Carlotta at the "Bat and Ball hotel".
No doubt he will swap the bat for a driver and kick arse on the golf course (plays off 0)
I wonder if he might consider taking up gold professionally. He is certainly a good player. Another thing some have talked about him doing is commentating or coaching. I personally would love to see him on the Channel 9 screens next summer.
Taking up gold is such an 1800's thing to do. Can't really see him taking up gold to be honest.
Haha yeh I always thought of Ricky as the kind of person who would enjoy spending his days looking for gold ;)
I was trying so hard not to cry during the press conference when i saw it on the news. :'( I hope Australia find a way to win, for Ricky. :)
Last 7 First Class Scores
Alex Doolan, Tassie Tiger
Scores: 149, 95, 60*, 161*, 16, 21, 42
Phil Hughes
Scores: 8, 5, 1*, 92, 26, 158, 8
Usman Khawaja
Scores: 28, 3, 19, 26, 54, 54, 138
And the next test in Tassie
Surely Doolan deserves a shot, the other two already have had there's!
about time >:(
Oh and Usman just got a duck and 8 against Queensland
yeah well Phil Hughes is leading all scorers in Sheffield shield
South Africa's pacemen will eat Hughes alive :(
Doolan's Shield average this year is 58 (the highest in the comp for guys who have scored over 400 runs), Hughes is 51, and Doolan has a 161* against South Africa, and I bet Doolan's better at Bellerive than Hughes
i would like to see both come into the team but not sure that will happen
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 09:12:45 PM
South Africa's pacemen will eat Hughes alive :(
Doolan's Shield average this year is 58 (the highest in the comp for guys who have scored over 400 runs), Hughes is 51, and Doolan has a 161* against South Africa, and I bet Doolan's better at Bellerive than Hughes
They wont be playing South Africa and Hughes ate South Africa alive last he played them anyway ;)
Lol true, my bad :/ Not sure what I was thinking!
Quote from: SilkySkills on November 29, 2012, 08:36:15 PM
I was trying so hard not to cry during the press conference when i saw it on the news. :'( I hope Australia find a way to win, for Ricky. :)
I think Michael Clarke's reaction when asked on how Ponting's retirement will affect the team pretty much sums up how he will be missed. Lets hope they can win for him.
Punter will be sorely missed. Although it is nice to see him go out on his own terms. Only figures to even challenge him over their careers are Sachin and Waugh. (And the Don!!)
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
Quote from: Jayman on November 29, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
+1
It gives me the shower when people bag our champions. He 's been a champion for years and should be acknowledged accordingly. Now we will go through around 2 or 3 three replacements over time and we may well be 3 down for nothing for a year or two.
I'm with Ossie on this one. Give Doolan a crack
Quote from: Jayman on November 29, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
its because he was a greedy self-centered batsman selected by a panel who couldn't let go of the past
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 29, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
its because he was a greedy self-centered batsman selected by a panel who couldn't let go of the past
Just think you need to show a little bit more respect for one of the best ever batsman this country has ever produced.
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 29, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
its because he was a greedy self-centered batsman selected by a panel who couldn't let go of the past
So he retired because he got bored?
Cic you literally make no sense
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 10:42:40 PM
Quote from: Jayman on November 29, 2012, 10:13:40 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 29, 2012, 08:59:29 PM
about time >:(
one of the greatest batsman since Bradman is retiring and all you can muster up is "about time" ??? Cmon cic...
its because he was a greedy self-centered batsman selected by a panel who couldn't let go of the past
give me a call when you make 13,000 Test runs
Cic is on the money
He was arrogant too and a pretty average captain.
Quote from: Nails on November 29, 2012, 11:46:10 PM
Cic is on the money
He was arrogant too and a pretty average captain.
now is probably not the time to be bagging him
We should be looking back on everything he has contributed to the Australian cricket team and Australian cricket in general; all the runs, all the memorable team wins; all the records... you gotta be good to play 168 Tests. Good luck in your future endeavour Punter
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Oh and Usman just got a duck and 8 against Queensland
umm.... he plays for Queensland though....
Quote from: tabs on November 30, 2012, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Oh and Usman just got a duck and 8 against Queensland
umm.... he plays for Queensland though....
Indeed he does. It was vs NSW (http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia-domestic-2012/engine/current/match/576098.html). Point still stands though.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
Haters gon hate
Ricky you are a gun and will be sorely missed
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 30, 2012, 12:13:57 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
Haters gon hate
Ricky you are a gun and will be sorely missed
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I could be) ... but first captain to lose the Ashes in ~25 years?
Being captain is more than just batting well. It's about good field placements, about solid tactics, choosing the right bowlers etc. He was a good batter but a terrible captain and has been terrible (except 1 lucky series) for 2-3 years
Post match interviews he came off as smug and arrogant (in my opinion)
Was never a big fan.
Quote from: tabs on November 30, 2012, 12:06:49 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 29, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Oh and Usman just got a duck and 8 against Queensland
umm.... he plays for Queensland though....
Whoops, players keep changing teams these days
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
+1 Mailman - well said
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years
Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years
Did I say that he needs to continue playing?
Is the fact a batsman's form declines as his age progresses anything new with Ponting?
Why would all of Tendulkar, Kallis, Hussey, Smith etc. be playing?
So by your logic, Bradman was an average batter and captain, because his form declined.
Lara must of been an average batter as well, as must of Hayden
they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting
Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 04:35:01 PM
they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting
Tendulkar's top of his game was years ago, but he looks like he will wait for years before he retires.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 04:14:56 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 03:35:41 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 30, 2012, 12:03:04 AM
Ponting is one of the three greatest batsmen in the modern era.
Statistically, he is the most successful captain of all time. One of 3 to surpass 13,000 runs. Given so much to Australian cricket throughout his distinguished career.
And here you are calling him arrogant, selfish and an ordinary captain.
It's childish, jealousy, stupidity and naivety all rolled into one statement.
you are the one blinded by his past exploits, and not about the fact he has been a walking wicket for the best part of 3 years
Did I say that he needs to continue playing?
Is the fact a batsman's form declines as his age progresses anything new with Ponting?
Why would all of Tendulkar, Kallis, Hussey, Smith etc. be playing?
So by your logic, Bradman was an average batter and captain, because his form declined.
Lara must of been an average batter as well, as must of Hayden
In Bradman's last 8 tests he averaged 113.8888888888889
His form didn't decline wtf you smoking?
cic is on the money.
Quote from: Cicjose on November 30, 2012, 04:35:01 PM
they all walked away at the top of their game not like ponting
No, none of them walked away at the top of their game.
No one does, regardless of what sport you play.
If you respect someone like Dustin Fletcher, you respect someone like Ponting.
Why doesn't Fletcher just retire? He's just being selfish taking up someone who would be newer's spot.
Do you see how stupid you sound?
There is no logic, no fact anywhere on the earth to support this. The only way to explain any sort of this argument is just bias.
:'(
No matter when he walked away from the game - you still have to respect the guys career ::)
Quote from: Jayman on November 30, 2012, 05:55:50 PM
No matter when he walked away from the game - you still have to respect the guys career ::)
+1
Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).
He is walking away when he's finished.
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 08:13:09 AM
Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).
He is walking away when he's finished.
If you take out the series against India (which I know isn't really fair) which gives you an indication how he has gone in all other series
He has averaged: 19.26923076923077
Terrible.
Quote from: Nails on December 01, 2012, 09:41:23 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 08:13:09 AM
Why do haters gotta hate :( He averaged 100 last summer, struggled in the Windies where EVERY batsmen struggled (except Chanderpaul) and is now is walking away from the game when he knows he is done. Not to mention the invaluable guidance he would have been given everybody's favourite player Michael Clarke (as everyone hated him before he was Captain).
He is walking away when he's finished.
If you take out the series against India (which I know isn't really fair) which gives you an indication how he has gone in all other series
He has averaged: 19.26923076923077
Terrible.
But I don't understand how that makes you or Cic think he's an arrogant and selfish player?
If he was selfish, he probably wouldn't of given up the captaincy to play on further. Heck, that's pretty rare in Australian culture
Post match interviews were always about how the Aussies stuffed up in a loss, how we played bad...
Similar to him more like how he got unlucky etc.
With Ponting was never about the opposition playing genuinely awesome, was just about how bad the Aussies played. It was as if everything revolved around him in the side. We could be playing 6 Bradmans, 1 Gilchrist, 3 Lillees and 1 Warne and if we lost he'd still say it was because of how bad/unlucky we played. Not because of quality opposition.
I hate how everyone ruins these threads with some big argument like the one above. He was a legend of Australian cricket and one of the best batsman ever to grace the game. Can't we just remember the great things that he did?
Quote from: BB67th on December 01, 2012, 10:11:10 AM
I hate how everyone ruins these threads with some big argument like the one above. He was a legend of Australian cricket and one of the best batsman ever to grace the game. Can't we just remember the great things that he did?
well said BB
Unfortunatelly he just can't bat against world class bowling anymore, I really hope he can get a 50 now in the second innings but likely he won't make 20 :-\
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 01, 2012, 03:47:41 PM
Unfortunatelly he just can't bat against world class bowling anymore, I really hope he can get a 50 now in the second innings but likely he won't make 20 :-\
I'd suffice with the winning runs, even if they are his only runs.
I just hope Cowan, warner and Watson can stay in til I get home from work tommorow.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
I just hope Cowan, warner and Watson can stay in til I get home from work tommorow.
That'll be tricky! Seeing only two can bat at the same time :o
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 02, 2012, 10:20:26 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 02, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
I just hope Cowan, warner and Watson can stay in til I get home from work tommorow.
That'll be tricky! Seeing only two can bat at the same time :o
He meant so that Ponting doesn't come out....
Wishful thinking I know, but if Warner can stay in for most of or the whole day, then we could score 350+ today and be on the way to winning. And here's some more food for thought, when South Africa beat us at the WACA last time they were 4/414, I'm sure that they could have gone on to make 623.....
It'd make my year if Aust win and Ponting gets a double ton.
Better yet, everyone get's out around him and it's Ponting leading a last wicket stand to win the game. :P
Quote from: Windigo on December 03, 2012, 11:45:16 AM
It'd make my year if Aust win and Ponting gets a double ton.
Better yet, everyone get's out around him and it's Ponting leading a last wicket stand to win the game. :P
And he brings up his 250 with a pull shot for 4 that is also the winning runs with nathan lyon on 7* at the other end.
Hope Ponting gets out for a golden duck but we go on to win the game. Can't have him score a double ton, re-think his retirement idea and be a walking wicket for another 2 years.
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
Hope Ponting gets out for a golden duck but we go on to win the game. Can't have him score a double ton, re-think his retirement idea and be a walking wicket for another 2 years.
Just post the hate somewhere else Nails, honestly.
It's a free forum Ossie. I can post what I like on topic. It's an opinion. I'm allowed one. Get over it if you disagree, don't need to whinge when people have opinions different to your own. It seems to be a popular thing for you however.
And the great man walks onto the playing field for the last ever time......
I got goose bumps
Great to see the Saffas giving him a guard of honour coming out and a handshake from Graeme Smith.
Quote from: BB67th on December 03, 2012, 03:48:30 PM
Great to see the Saffas giving him a guard of honour coming out and a handshake from Graeme Smith.
yeah that was great!
Just hope he makes a 50. Cmon mate
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 03:43:56 PM
It's a free forum Ossie. I can post what I like on topic. It's an opinion. I'm allowed one. Get over it if you disagree, don't need to whinge when people have opinions different to your own. It seems to be a popular thing for you however.
Of course you can post what you like, but your level of disrespect towards everyone is a cancer on many topics. And I'm allowed to post my displeasure of that.
Well use your mod powers to delete the posts...
oh wait...
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Well use your mod powers to delete the posts...
oh wait...
I resigned from my mod duties for a few reasons Nails, and you were in fact one of them. Not a major one, but definitely a factor. The major ones was I sold a house, changing jobs, moving interstate and am expecting my first child. The minor one was seeing the absolute trash you were talking about me (and others) in chat.
And so ends the career of a legend. Thanks for the memories Ricky.
Generally you want to post opinions in when more than one person agrees with you....
That's usually the borderline when most realise they're a) being a dick or b) wrong
Bye bye Ricky. Will never be forgotten.
Quote from: ossie85 on December 03, 2012, 04:27:10 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 04:15:34 PM
Well use your mod powers to delete the posts...
oh wait...
I resigned from my mod duties for a few reasons Nails, and you were in fact one of them. Not a major one, but definitely a factor. The major ones was I sold a house, changing jobs, moving interstate and am expecting my first child. The minor one was seeing the absolute trash you were talking about me (and others) in chat.
take your bickering elsewhere. This is a Ricky Ponting appreciation thread, not the place for a petty argument... Yeah you're entitled to your opinions but don't do it to stir everyone up
You're correct Tom, I apologise.
Yeah some some respect! This is an appreciation thread and you should be ashamed Nails ya spud
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 03, 2012, 04:43:52 PM
Yeah some some respect! This is an appreciation thread and you should be ashamed Nails ya spud
Look who made the thread.
It's an "about bloody time" thread
Not my fault you all posted off topic!
@Ossie - I didn't even talk about you in chat... You wouldn't be worth my time in chat.
Oh, maybe I made some comments when you quit? I dunno, forgot what I even said... But things only hurt when there's some truth to 'em imo.
Was a great batter, great player and fielder
But an average captain. I feel he should have retired a while ago IMO.
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 05:07:39 PM
Was a great batter, great player and fielder
But an average captain. I feel he should have retired a while ago IMO.
Holds the all time record for test matches won as captain...Kind of suggests he was a pretty decent captain.
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 05:07:39 PM
Was a great batter, great player and fielder
I feel he should have retired a while ago IMO.
After that double-hundred in Adelaide this year. That is when he should've gone IMO
Quote from: Sid on December 03, 2012, 05:10:18 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 03, 2012, 05:07:39 PM
Was a great batter, great player and fielder
But an average captain. I feel he should have retired a while ago IMO.
Holds the all time record for test matches won as captain...Kind of suggests he was a pretty decent captain.
He walked into a good team... His tactics were average.
First captain to lose the Ashes in how long? Back to back losses.
It really comes down to statistics vs. opinion
Love the send off he got in the end and that pause, look around the ground, and raising of the bat and helmet signals the end of an era, with the last of the Waugh era players retiring from the game.
Averaged just 6 in his final series. If he wasn't retiring he would have been dropped after that game, then he would retire.
It's good that he had the foresight to retire "On his terms" in a way. :)
Quote from: BB67th on December 03, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Love the send off he got in the end and that pause, look around the ground, and raising of the bat and helmet signals the end of an era, with the last of the Waugh era players retiring from the game.
Front/Back cover of all of the newspapers tomorrow for sure. With the Thanks Ricky on the TV in the background.
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 03, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 03, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Love the send off he got in the end and that pause, look around the ground, and raising of the bat and helmet signals the end of an era, with the last of the Waugh era players retiring from the game.
Front/Back cover of all of the newspapers tomorrow for sure. With the Thanks Ricky on the TV in the background.
One of the most historic images of recent cricket history.
On another note, I realise it's not really anything new, but I have heard that Sachin may well retire if India beat England. Jayawardena has said he will consider retirement after losing (inevitably) to the Aussies this summer and Jacques can't be too far away from the end. All the greats retiring......
Quote from: BB67th on December 03, 2012, 10:57:15 PM
Quote from: SilkySkills on December 03, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
Quote from: BB67th on December 03, 2012, 09:01:51 PM
Love the send off he got in the end and that pause, look around the ground, and raising of the bat and helmet signals the end of an era, with the last of the Waugh era players retiring from the game.
Front/Back cover of all of the newspapers tomorrow for sure. With the Thanks Ricky on the TV in the background.
One of the most historic images of recent cricket history.
On another note, I realise it's not really anything new, but I have heard that Sachin may well retire if India beat England. Jayawardena has said he will consider retirement after losing (inevitably) to the Aussies this summer and Jacques can't be too far away from the end. All the greats retiring......
Jacques has averaged 67.43 this year w/ the bat and taken 11 wickets (not many wickets, I know)
So I can't really see him retiring any time soon. He's superman tbh.