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Title: ossie85 is the best ever and always will be
Post by: ossie85 on February 19, 2010, 01:05:57 AM

I'm thinking of attacking from the front this year, without giving too much away, I'm thinking this as a forward line:

Goodes, Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, Tippett, Dangerfeild <Dennis-Lane, Tapscott>

and topping up the midfield/ruck when needed with multi-positional players. I figure the midfield is where the cash cows are.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: MrRiosWan on February 19, 2010, 01:57:52 AM
A lot of forwards struggle for the consistancy compared with midfielders IMO. However you have probably got the pick of the bunch in that line up, with nearly all likely to score well week in week out. Personally I feel I lost points by investing too heavily in my forward line last year, but thats mainly due to the indifferent form of stars like Franklin, Roughead etc. You might be on to something, time will tell if you go through with it.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: gerco on February 19, 2010, 02:01:43 AM
Monty discusses this in his cheat sheet 2010 a little bit.

I like the theory because of under-priced premium forwards (Franklin, Murphy, even Fev to an extent), coupled with rookies in the midfield (this where  the marquee rookies are this year) and bargain buys in the backline (Kennelly, Ladson, Hunt, Drum, Maguire, Raines, Jesse Smith).

I guess any theory has a certain amount of risk-reward, but personally I think this is a decent theory.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
I think it could be the way forward! I am finding hard to fill the forward line and the rookies don't look half as good as the mid....
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: ossie85 on February 19, 2010, 03:34:21 AM
Quote from: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
I think it could be the way forward!

Monty, ban him for bad puns  :P
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 03:36:01 AM
What for that was GOLD  ;D
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: JonnyHart on February 19, 2010, 03:57:03 AM
Quote from: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
I think it could be the way forward! I am finding hard to fill the forward line and the rookies don't look half as good as the mid....

I reckon there are quality forwards that render this approach risky. Don't forget that if you stack your midfield with rookies and you're copping a donut because of injuries or omission, you have very little room to move. You'll need a lot of cash left over to trade out of it. Otherwise, it's a minimum two-trade recovery. Ouch...

http://thedailydream.wordpress.com/
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: ulahoopski on February 19, 2010, 03:58:38 AM
It's great in theory but like any other plan it's reliant on good luck. How many rookies are you going to have in the midfield? You can only upgrade once a week so you need a lot of luck to have a rookie rise in price enough to make it worthwhile to upgrade. Will they play three games? Will they get decent scores in each of those three games? Will there be another rookie who's played two games or less to downgrade to? Is it guaranteed that that rookie will play the following week(s)?
I know if it was my team each rookie would either play two games then get dropped, injured, suspended, die, or have a freak accident in the warm up! It's all about luck.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 04:24:38 AM
Quote from: JonnyHart on February 19, 2010, 03:57:03 AM
Quote from: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 03:10:53 AM
I think it could be the way forward! I am finding hard to fill the forward line and the rookies don't look half as good as the mid....

I reckon there are quality forwards that render this approach risky. Don't forget that if you stack your midfield with rookies and you're copping a donut because of injuries or omission, you have very little room to move. You'll need a lot of cash left over to trade out of it. Otherwise, it's a minimum two-trade recovery. Ouch...

http://thedailydream.wordpress.com/


But if you have players in the back or forward who play mid as a mmp it's not that risky....
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: JonnyHart on February 19, 2010, 05:15:50 AM
But you can't swap a non-multi-position-mid-rookie for a multi-position-mid-forward/mid-back. Apart from Rohan, there are no multi position quality rookie mids you could swap over if they aren't playing well or get injured.

I wish you luck, but I'm concerned you don't understand how the multi-position players work.

http://thedailydream.wordpress.com
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: ossie85 on February 19, 2010, 05:34:52 AM

At the moment I have ziebell in the centre, who could then be swapped with any of Goodse, O'Keefe, Pav or Dangerfield if the midfield struggles somewhat.

Fairly confident I'll be ok though, as atm I've only got two rookie starters.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 07:05:20 AM
Quote from: JonnyHart on February 19, 2010, 05:15:50 AM
But you can't swap a non-multi-position-mid-rookie for a multi-position-mid-forward/mid-back. Apart from Rohan, there are no multi position quality rookie mids you could swap over if they aren't playing well or get injured.

I wish you luck, but I'm concerned you don't understand how the multi-position players work.

http://thedailydream.wordpress.com

So Rohan, Gray for Pav
Mitch Famer for Hodge

Think i got it!  ;D
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Prospector_1 on February 19, 2010, 07:09:11 AM
Recent bad news on Gray?

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,6916.0.html (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,6916.0.html)
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Blueboys on February 19, 2010, 07:53:00 AM
Things are looking gray now!  :P

Gumby now gray, gee can they wait until round 1!  ??? I sick of re-doing my team after ever news press!  ;D
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Selwood4brownlow on February 19, 2010, 08:34:41 AM
im staying away from it. Loaded my foward line last year and failed. Have loaded my backs
goddard
enright
carrazzo
shaw
hodge
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Prospector_1 on February 19, 2010, 08:37:52 AM
SOLID
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: brownmans muffins on February 21, 2010, 01:12:26 AM
Quote from: Selwood4brownlow on February 19, 2010, 08:34:41 AM
im staying away from it. Loaded my foward line last year and failed. Have loaded my backs
goddard
enright
carrazzo
shaw
hodge

i'm in the same boat re the backs but am applying it to a lesser extent in the fwd line e.g.; both bids to minimis required trades
newman / shaw / hodge / gilbee / carrazzo
riewoldt / pavlich / j.brown / franklin ........ dangerfield / ziebell
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: brownmans muffins on February 21, 2010, 01:26:50 AM
oh yeah + goodes in the fwd line.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: MrRiosWan on February 22, 2010, 04:46:51 AM
Careful with Carazzo. He played a forward tagging role on Kennelly in their NAB match. Could hurt his scores if it becomes a regular occurance.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: brownmans muffins on February 22, 2010, 07:41:16 AM
yeah got that; thanks - would be a bit of a tvrd.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: toodledock on March 06, 2010, 08:18:44 AM
I liked this at first but now I feel not enough reliable quality in the fwds to go for it
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Torress on March 06, 2010, 07:19:29 PM
i think i remember reading something monty said about the Forward's scoring the most inconsistently out of all of the positions - thats prems, mid pricers the lot..starting all the ''gun'' fully priced prem forwards is asking for trouble - but i am starting roo because he looks dam good atm!! and then its pav, i think i love pav he is a fantasy general, imagine if he played in a skillful winning side he would DOMINATE
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Sams-Town on March 06, 2010, 09:18:39 PM
Yeah I think Monty has a solid point there. Thats why I am starting 2 super premiums 1 a midfielder 2 premiums 1 risk to cash cows.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: lozza63 on March 21, 2010, 11:10:55 AM
Goodes, Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, Tippett, Dangerfeild <Dennis-Lane, Tapscott>

I think that Ossie's elite forward theory is still a very viable option - blending in power forwards with players who have midfield duties from time to time  - make this a very attractive proposition!
The players i think would make this line very attractive
Riewoldt, ROK, Pav, Boomer, Buddy, Gray, Danger < Hitchcock + Rockliff

Not sure how to work in the MPP at this stage

Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: Alex7089 on March 21, 2010, 11:16:44 AM
I think boomer is getting on and may not score as well this year. Maybe Higgins is a better option.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: antman on March 23, 2010, 02:10:31 PM
Like all things in life and supercoach you need balance.If you can't find your balance you will fall over.
Title: Re: Elite Forward Theory
Post by: MissPies on March 23, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on February 19, 2010, 01:05:57 AM


I'm thinking of attacking from the front this year, without giving too much away, I'm thinking this as a forward line:

Goodes, Riewoldt, O'Keefe, Pavlich, Franklin, Tippett, Dangerfeild <Dennis-Lane, Tapscott>

and topping up the midfield/ruck when needed with multi-positional players. I figure the midfield is where the cash cows are.

Thoughts?

Goodes = good choice, Reiwoldt  = good choice, and thats all she wrote from me