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Title: Tippett
Post by: Cicjose on October 30, 2012, 01:29:51 AM
https://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/150460/default.aspx

GREATER Western Sydney will recruit out-of-contract forward Kurt Tippett - if it can afford him.

Giants CEO Dave Matthews confirmed the club had today discussed the controversial former Crow at a football sub-committee meeting.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: ossie85 on October 30, 2012, 09:18:44 AM

They can afford him if they get rid of Folau. No room for him, Tippett, Patton and Cameron in the same team.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on October 30, 2012, 11:33:02 AM
What do you think Giants fans?

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Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on October 30, 2012, 05:23:47 PM
smeh, I wouldnt mind him. That being said, I wouldnt use any of our top 3 picks on him, and I would really prefer not to pay him that amount of money. If we could get him in the NAT, fine, use pick 20 on him :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on October 31, 2012, 09:50:31 PM
He'll leave after 1 year there :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Jroo on November 01, 2012, 06:12:50 PM
If the Giants get Tippett imagine there forward line
Tippett, Cameron and Patton  :o
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 06:13:38 PM
I think we're going to go for him hard out now :/
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Jroo on November 01, 2012, 06:15:34 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 06:13:38 PM
I think we're going to go for him hard out now :/
You should get him. You have the first pick in the Pre season draft and you will have enough money to offer him what he wants.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:31:59 PM
despite what people say, losing izzy doesnt free up heaps of cap for us- as an elite athlete the majority of his payment was outside of the cap.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on November 01, 2012, 07:35:47 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:31:59 PM
despite what people say, losing izzy doesnt free up heaps of cap for us- as an elite athlete the majority of his payment was outside of the cap.
how much do you think Power and Old macdonald were on?? Will the 3 of them give you enough cash??
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/

you'd have heaps of cap room i think because non of your kids are being paid top dollar now, but i think the club is trying to leave heaps of cap room for when your kiddies do get older and start demanding higher salaries
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: kilbluff1985 on November 01, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/

you'd have heaps of cap room i think because non of your kids are being paid top dollar now, but i think the club is trying to leave heaps of cap room for when your kiddies do get older and start demanding higher salaries

well they need to use 93% of there cap so doubt they would have 'heaps' of room left depends what you consider heaps i guess
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1995 on November 01, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/

you'd have heaps of cap room i think because non of your kids are being paid top dollar now, but i think the club is trying to leave heaps of cap room for when your kiddies do get older and start demanding higher salaries

well they need to use 93% of there cap so doubt they would have 'heaps' of room left depends what you consider heaps i guess

oh really?! i didn't know that?

i know they had sorted out their cap room so that they have enough room in the coming years to retain most of their kids...

maybe they're paying the older blokes (cornes, brogan) alot to meet that requirement...?
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: AFEV on November 01, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1995 on November 01, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/

you'd have heaps of cap room i think because non of your kids are being paid top dollar now, but i think the club is trying to leave heaps of cap room for when your kiddies do get older and start demanding higher salaries

well they need to use 93% of there cap so doubt they would have 'heaps' of room left depends what you consider heaps i guess

oh really?! i didn't know that?

i know they had sorted out their cap room so that they have enough room in the coming years to retain most of their kids...

maybe they're paying the older blokes (cornes, brogan) alot to meet that requirement...?
My guess would be Scully, Ward etc. would have front ended contracts.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:36:18 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 01, 2012, 08:31:37 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:20:20 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1995 on November 01, 2012, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Toga on November 01, 2012, 08:08:57 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/

you'd have heaps of cap room i think because non of your kids are being paid top dollar now, but i think the club is trying to leave heaps of cap room for when your kiddies do get older and start demanding higher salaries

well they need to use 93% of there cap so doubt they would have 'heaps' of room left depends what you consider heaps i guess

oh really?! i didn't know that?

i know they had sorted out their cap room so that they have enough room in the coming years to retain most of their kids...

maybe they're paying the older blokes (cornes, brogan) alot to meet that requirement...?
My guess would be Scully, Ward etc. would have front ended contracts.

didn't quite get there, but that was the reason i was looking for haha, thanks mate ::)
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 08:45:07 PM
scully has a pretty big contract, dunno about ward.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: JBs-Hawks on November 01, 2012, 08:47:33 PM
He went to gws for the location :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Samm79 on November 01, 2012, 11:12:48 PM
I'm pretty sure I remember reading that Scullys contract was heavily front loaded. Seven figures in the first year and a lot less over the remaining 4.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
What's the difference between front and back ended contracts?

To players get paid more at the end or beginning or what?
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on November 01, 2012, 11:42:27 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
What's the difference between front and back ended contracts?

To players get paid more at the end or beginning or what?

Front loading means th player gets more in the first year(s) of their contract, before it gets a bit less at the end of the contract.
For example scully might have got 1.2 mil first year, 700K second year and 400K for the rest of the years of his contract... (not actual numbers, just am example) ::)

Basically means they can pay scully most of his money now, freeing up salary cap room for 4 years time I think...
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on November 01, 2012, 11:52:46 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 01, 2012, 07:45:13 PM
not heaps. A reasonable amount. Honestly, we probably have the cap room. I don't super want him though :/
join the queue.

Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 01, 2012, 11:23:06 PM
What's the difference between front and back ended contracts?

To players get paid more at the end or beginning or what?
front ended contracts usually have either more money in the beginning, whilst back ended contracts have more money in the later years or clauses
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on November 02, 2012, 08:38:18 AM
Ahh ok thanks  :)
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: ossie85 on November 02, 2012, 09:25:11 AM

Front loading is generally a better strategy than back loading, with Front loading you know what you've got and can plan for the future.

With back loading you're trying to predict things going a certain way and even with veteran status on the horizon it is risky. The Brisbane Lions back-loaded a lot and it hurt them, to the point where I think they were paying Michael Voss for I think 2 years after he retired.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ringo on November 02, 2012, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 02, 2012, 09:25:11 AM

Front loading is generally a better strategy than back loading, with Front loading you know what you've got and can plan for the future.

With back loading you're trying to predict things going a certain way and even with veteran status on the horizon it is risky. The Brisbane Lions back-loaded a lot and it hurt them, to the point where I think they were paying Michael Voss for I think 2 years after he retired.
Yes it does hurt Oss - We only finished playing Fevola this year as well. Hopefully we have learned our lesson and will not back end any more contracts.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on November 02, 2012, 12:36:16 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 02, 2012, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 02, 2012, 09:25:11 AM

Front loading is generally a better strategy than back loading, with Front loading you know what you've got and can plan for the future.

With back loading you're trying to predict things going a certain way and even with veteran status on the horizon it is risky. The Brisbane Lions back-loaded a lot and it hurt them, to the point where I think they were paying Michael Voss for I think 2 years after he retired.
Yes it does hurt Oss - We only finished playing Fevola this year as well. Hopefully we have learned our lesson and will not back end any more contracts.
ouch, that hurts....
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Grazz on November 22, 2012, 04:58:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on November 02, 2012, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 02, 2012, 09:25:11 AM

Front loading is generally a better strategy than back loading, with Front loading you know what you've got and can plan for the future.

With back loading you're trying to predict things going a certain way and even with veteran status on the horizon it is risky. The Brisbane Lions back-loaded a lot and it hurt them, to the point where I think they were paying Michael Voss for I think 2 years after he retired.
Yes it does hurt Oss - We only finished playing Fevola this year as well. Hopefully we have learned our lesson and will not back end any more contracts.

eeek didnt know that, Reckon youve learnt from that Ringo.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 05, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
Apparently we just announced that we are no longer chasing tippett.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: ossie85 on December 05, 2012, 12:14:33 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 05, 2012, 12:05:18 PM
Apparently we just announced that we are no longer chasing tippett.

:( I still don't know why.

I really wish someone would shove it up Tippett and pick him.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 05, 2012, 12:17:31 PM
lol, it'd be pretty funny if nobody picked him up... :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Cicjose on December 05, 2012, 12:36:54 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/greater-western-sydney-not-interested-in-drafting-kurt-tippett-because-of-his-price-tag/story-fnbk754t-1226530328925
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on December 05, 2012, 12:38:52 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 05, 2012, 12:36:54 PM
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/greater-western-sydney-not-interested-in-drafting-kurt-tippett-because-of-his-price-tag/story-fnbk754t-1226530328925
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Nige on December 05, 2012, 01:57:02 PM
Tweet from Sheeds not long ago.

QuoteGood luck to Kurt Tippett. 900k a lot of money. Even PM doesn't get that but wish him and the Swans all the best.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 05, 2012, 05:46:07 PM
Not even the Prime Minister gets paid that much!
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Lots of people get paid more than presidents and prime ministers in basically all countries that aren't dictatorships.....
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: nrich102 on December 05, 2012, 07:36:24 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Lots of people get paid more than presidents and prime ministers in basically all countries that aren't dictatorships.....
LOL
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 06, 2012, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Lots of people get paid more than presidents and prime ministers in basically all countries that aren't dictatorships.....
Not sure if you're having a go at me here...

This is what Sheedy actually said..
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Chopps on December 06, 2012, 08:17:41 AM
Any chance Sydney will back out of taking him? 11 weeks out plus finding his feat could be an unproductive year for tippet
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Mailman the 2nd on December 06, 2012, 09:31:15 AM
Quote from: whatlez on December 06, 2012, 12:13:16 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 07:16:52 PM
Lots of people get paid more than presidents and prime ministers in basically all countries that aren't dictatorships.....
Not sure if you're having a go at me here...

This is what Sheedy actually said..

No, I know that's what Sheedy actually said. It's just not a clever thing to say  ;)
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Justin Bieber on December 06, 2012, 11:37:49 AM
Yeah the prime minister only gets paid 400k a year. So many AFL players get more so Sheedy is an idiot
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 02:21:34 PM
no, sheedys just trolling :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: nrich102 on December 06, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 02:21:34 PM
no, sheedys just trolling :P
+1
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on December 06, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on December 06, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 02:21:34 PM
no, sheedys just trolling :P
+1
i have reported Sheedy!!
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on December 06, 2012, 05:45:50 PM
Quote from: Chopps on December 06, 2012, 08:17:41 AM
Any chance Sydney will back out of taking him? 11 weeks out plus finding his feat could be an unproductive year for tippet
sadly not, just looks like Tippetts extension to the deal will not go through
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: nrich102 on December 06, 2012, 05:46:20 PM
Quote from: tabs on December 06, 2012, 05:45:05 PM
Quote from: nrich102 on December 06, 2012, 05:43:03 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 02:21:34 PM
no, sheedys just trolling :P
+1
i have reported Sheedy!!
LOL
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
its going to be really hard to get back into it after not having played footy for like 3/4 of a year...

Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: ossie85 on December 07, 2012, 09:41:49 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
its going to be really hard to get back into it after not having played footy for like 3/4 of a year...

Yeah, you're right. Though after the first 4ish matches, reckon he'll be fine.

Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Toga on December 07, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
its going to be really hard to get back into it after not having played footy for like 3/4 of a year...

will he be able to play in the 2's during his suspension though?? ???
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Grazz on December 07, 2012, 01:18:13 PM
Quote from: Toga on December 07, 2012, 01:16:11 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 06, 2012, 07:28:51 PM
its going to be really hard to get back into it after not having played footy for like 3/4 of a year...

will he be able to play in the 2's during his suspension though?? ???

Nuh he cant play in any footy competition at all mate.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 07, 2012, 04:51:51 PM
they could send him overseas to play footy?

not that it would help :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Grazz on December 08, 2012, 11:41:40 AM
I reckon no footy is "No Footy" anywhere. He and the club (Sydney) may not be thrilled about his ban but it will give him time to get his body a 100%, an extended break has to have a benefit for a fooballer. Admitedly an older player would probably benefit further but i think he'll be pretty fit and healthy when he gets going and he'll be chomping at the bit to go. Take a few games to get match fit and get all your touch back. Just in time for the Swans to push for a high top 4 spot, bugger haha.
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Capper on December 08, 2012, 02:06:59 PM
could be a good upgrade target for R15 depending on how he goes if R13 and 14 for fantasy
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: Grazz on December 08, 2012, 11:41:40 AM
I reckon no footy is "No Footy" anywhere. He and the club (Sydney) may not be thrilled about his ban but it will give him time to get his body a 100%, an extended break has to have a benefit for a fooballer. Admitedly an older player would probably benefit further but i think he'll be pretty fit and healthy when he gets going and he'll be chomping at the bit to go. Take a few games to get match fit and get all your touch back. Just in time for the Swans to push for a high top 4 spot, bugger haha.

the  bans come from the AFL, the australian football league, so there's logically no reason why he wouldnt be able to play in like italy or something :P
Title: Re: Tippett
Post by: nrich102 on December 08, 2012, 02:56:06 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 08, 2012, 02:25:07 PM
Quote from: Grazz on December 08, 2012, 11:41:40 AM
I reckon no footy is "No Footy" anywhere. He and the club (Sydney) may not be thrilled about his ban but it will give him time to get his body a 100%, an extended break has to have a benefit for a fooballer. Admitedly an older player would probably benefit further but i think he'll be pretty fit and healthy when he gets going and he'll be chomping at the bit to go. Take a few games to get match fit and get all your touch back. Just in time for the Swans to push for a high top 4 spot, bugger haha.
And they play alot of AFL over there

the  bans come from the AFL, the australian football league, so there's logically no reason why he wouldnt be able to play in like italy or something :P