Round Pick Club
1 1 Dublin Wellington
1 2 New York Pacific Wellington
1 3 Berlin Moscow Beijing
1 4 PNL Tokyo
1 5 Cairo Pacific Dublin Toronto Buenos Aires New York Wellington Pacific
1 6 Tokyo Pacific
1 7 Pacific New Delhi Pacific New York Mexico City New Delhi
1 8 New Delhi Cairo London
1 9 London
1 10 Seoul Berlin Pacific New Delhi Mexico City New York Moscow Dublin
1 11 Beijing
1 12 Wellington
1 13 Toronto Tokyo Berlin Mexico City Beijing
1 14 Moscow Tokyo Toronto Beijing Moscow Toronto New Delhi Mexico City Beijing
1 15 Buenos Aires Cape Town New York
1 16 Sao Paulo
1 17 Cape Town New Delhi
1 18 Mexico City New Delhi Cairo Mexico City
PP 19 Dublin Beijing
2 20 Dublin London
2 21 New York Tokyo Moscow Beijing Mexico City
2 22 Berlin London Moscow Beijing
2 23 PNL Tokyo
2 24 Cairo Moscow Dublin
2 25 Tokyo Berlin Wellington
2 26 Pacific Sao Paulo Tokyo Moscow Cairo New Delhi New York
2 27 New Delhi Cape Town
2 28 London Seoul Beijing
2 29 Seoul Beijing Berlin Wellington
2 30 Beijing Dublin Berlin Moscow Beijing Moscow Dublin
2 31 Wellington Sao Paulo
2 32 Toronto Sao Paulo New York
2 33 Moscow Berlin New York Cairo Seoul
2 34 Buenos Aires PNL
2 35 Sao Paulo Tokyo
2 36 Cape Town London Seoul
2 37 Mexico City Wellington Pacific Berlin
3 38 Dublin Berlin Pacific
3 39 New York Pacific Toronto
3 40 Berlin
3 41 PNL Wellington
3 42 Cairo Moscow Sao Paulo Cairo Wellington
3 43 Tokyo Toronto Tokyo
3 44 Pacific New York Berlin Toronto Cairo
3 45 New Delhi Pacific Berlin London
3 46 London Pacific Mexico City
3 47 Seoul Tokyo
3 48 Beijing Tokyo
3 49 Wellington
3 50 Toronto Berlin Cairo Toronto
3 51 Moscow Cairo Buenos Aires Mexico City Beijing
3 52 Buenos Aires Mexico City Cairo Seoul
3 53 Sao Paulo Toronto Tokyo
3 54 Cape Town
3 55 Mexico City Beijing
4 56 Dublin Buenos Aires
4 57 New York Pacific
4 58 Berlin Tokyo
4 59 PNL New York Beijing Wellington
4 60 Cairo Pacific Berlin
4 61 Tokyo Toronto
4 62 Pacific
4 63 New Delhi Cairo Berlin
4 64 London Berlin
4 65 Seoul Beijing
4 66 Beijing
4 67 Wellington
4 68 Toronto Dublin Berlin
4 69 Moscow Berlin
4 70 Buenos Aires
4 71 Sao Paulo Pacific Toronto Berlin
4 72 Cape Town
4 73 Mexico City
5 74 Dublin Buenos Aires
5 75 New York Buenos Aires
5 76 Berlin Moscow Mexico City Beijing
5 77 PNL Moscow London
5 78 Cairo Cape Town Berlin
5 79 Tokyo
5 80 Pacific New York
5 81 New Delhi Cairo
5 82 London
5 83 Seoul Cairo
5 84 Beijing
5 85 Wellington
5 86 Toronto Buenos Aires
5 87 Moscow Beijing
5 88 Buenos Aires New York
5 89 Sao Paulo London
5 90 Cape Town
5 91 Mexico City New Delhi
Trades Made in Week One (to be voted upon)
Note - Confirmed means all parties have agreed to it but has yet to be accepted by the group.
Green: Approved
Red: Blocked
Trade 1 (Confirmed)
New York Gives: Picks 2, 21, 39 and 57, Nick O'Brien, Alex Fasolo
New York Receives: Pick 80, Travis Cloke, Trent McKenzie, Ayce Cordy
Tokyo Gives: Pick 6, Trent McKenzie, Sam Blease, Travis Cloke, Ayce Cordy
Tokyo Receives: Pick 21, Chris Judd, Nick Suban, Jacob Townsend, Alex Fasolo, Nick O'Brien
Pacific Gives: Pick 80, Chris Judd, Nick Suban, Jacob Townsend
Pacific Receives: Picks 2, 6, 39 and 57, Sam Blease
Trade 2 (Confirmed)
London Gives: Bob Murphy
Moscow Gives: Jonathan Brown
Trade 3 (Confirmed)
Sao Paulo Gives: Pick 53, Sam Fisher
Toronto Gives: Pick 32, Taylor Adams
Trade 4 (Confirmed)
Sao Paulo Gives: Daniel Cross
New Delhi Gives: Matthew Buntine and Jared Polec
Trade 5 (Confirmed)
Berlin Gives: Brent Moloney
Mexico City Gives: Daniel Talia
Trade 6 (Confirmed)
Mexico City Gives: Terry Milera and Kyle Reimers
New Delhi Gives: Daniel Merrett and Brent Harvey
Trade 7 (Confirmed)
Seoul Gives: Ryan Griffen
Cairo Gives: Josh J Kennedy
Trade 8 (Confirmed)
Dublin Gives: Shane Mumford, Callan Ward, Nick Malceski
Cairo Gives: Todd Goldstein, Jack Redden, Adam Tomlinson
Trade 9 (Confirmed)
Sao Paulo Gives: Pick 71 and Jarryd Blair
Pacific Gives: Pick 26 and Andrew Walker
Trade 10 (Confirmed)
Beijing Gives: Pick 30 and Mitch Clark
Dublin Gives: Pick 19 and Josh Caddy
Trade 11 (Confirmed)
Seoul Gives: Brent Renouf and Ben Rutten
New Delhi Gives: Brett Ebert
Trade 12 (Confirmed)
Cairo Gives: Pick 60 and Jordan Lisle
Pacific Gives: Josh Gibson
Trade 13 (Confirmed)
Tokyo Gives: Sam Rowe and Koby Stevens
Cairo Gives: Shaun Hampson
Trade 14 (Confirmed)
Sao Paulo Gives: Picks 26, 35 and Steven Motlop
Tokyo Gives: Jack Gunston
Trade 15 (Confirmed)
Seoul Gives: Pick 10 and Jack Steven
Berlin Gives: Preseason Draft Pick 3, Paul Duffield, Liam Patrick and Seb Ross
Trade 16 (Confirmed)
Cairo Gives: Pick 5, Leigh Montagna and Clinton Young
Cairo Receives: Pick 8 and Drew Petrie
Pacific Gives: Pick 7, Drew Petrie and Lee Spurr
Pacific Receives: Picks 5, 45 and Tom Rockliff
New Delhi Gives: Picks 8, 45, and Tom Rockliff
New Delhi Receives: Pick 7, Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young and Lee Spurr
Trade 17 (Confirmed)
London gives: Michael Hurley
London receives: Picks 20, 22
Dublin gives: Picks 20, 30, 38
Dublin receives: Michael Hurley
Berlin gives: Pick 22
Berlin receives: Picks 30, 38
Trade 18 (Confirmed)
Cape Town gives: Lindsay Thomas
Cairo gives: Pick 78, Jacob Brennan
Trade 19 (Confirmed)
Seoul gives: Pick 65
Beijing gives: Jay Lever
Trade 20 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Nat Fyfe, Jack Darling
Moscow gives: Allen Christensen, Ryan Bastinac, Tom Liberatore
Trade 21 (Confirmed)
Tokyo gives: Picks 21, 26
Moscow Gives: Pick 14
Trade 22 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Picks 26, 51 and Harley Bennell
Cairo gives: Pick 42 and Ryan Griffen
Trade 23 (Confirmed)
PNL gives: Pick 41, Tendai Mzungu
Wellington gives: Elliot Kavanagh, Jared Brennan
Trade 24 (Confirmed)
Cape Town gives: Jack Grimes
Buenos Aires gives: Pick 15, Billie Smedts and Nathan Vardy
Trade 25 (Confirmed)
Buenos Aires give: 2nd round Preseason Draft pick and Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Shannon Hurn, Heath Scotland and Stewart Crameri
Buenos Aires receive: Pick 1, Ben Howlett, Brad Ebert, Brock McLean, Nathan Foley, Garrick Ibbotson, Scott D. Thompson
Mexico City gives: Pick 18, Ben Howlett, Brad Ebert, Brock McLean, Nathan Foley, Garrick Ibbotson
Mexico City receives: 2nd round Preseason Draft pick, Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Shannon Hurn, Heath Scotland
Dublin gives: Pick 1 and Scott D Thompson
Dublin receives: Pick 18 and Stewart Crameri
Trade 26 (Confirmed)
New Delhi gives: Nick Dal Santo
Cairo gives: Pick 26 and Josh Gibson
Trade 27 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Pick 8 and Josh Hill
London gives: Luke Breust
Trade 28 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Terry Milera, Jarrad Boumann, Kyle Reimers
New Delhi gives: Brent Harvey, Daniel Merrett
Trade 29 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Pick 68, Nathan van Berlo and Josh Bootmas
Dublin gives: Nathan Grima
Trade 30 (Confirmed)
Seoul gives: Harry O'Brien
London gives: Pick 28 and Shannon Byrnes
Trade 31 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Picks 33, 69, Thomas Lynch and Brandon Matera
Berlin gives: Picks 3, 30, 76 and Michael Walters
Trade 32 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Chris Masten
Sao Paulo gives: Pick 42 & Jon Griffin
Trade 33 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Pick 3
Beijing gives: Dom Tyson
Trade 34 (Confirmed)
Pacific gives: Pick 44 and Dion Prestia
New York gives: Claye Beams and Ben Cunnington
Trade 35 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Pick 33 and Will Schofield
New York gives: Pick 44 and Stefan Martin
Trade 36 (Confirmed)
Wellington gives: Alex Rance and Brandon Ellis
Wellington receives: Pick 1 and Adam Schneider
Dublin gives: Picks 1, 56 and 74, Scott D. Thompson and Adam Schneider
Dublin receives: Travis Boak, Brandon Ellis and Alex Rance
Buenos Aires gives: Travis Boak
Buenos Aires receives: Picks 56 & 74, Scott D. Thompson
Trade 37 (Confirmed)
London gives: Pick 46 & Sam Docherty
Pacific gives: Quinten Lynch
Trade 38 (Confirmed)
London gives: Brad Sheppard & Stephen Hill
Sao Paulo gives: Pick 89, Dan Hanneberry and Zach Touhy
Trade 39 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Pick 53, Jared Rivers & Ted Richards
Tokyo gives: Pick 43 & Liam Shiels
Trade 40 (Confirmed)
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright & Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: Pick 14
Trade 41 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Sharrod Wellingham
New Delhi gives: Picks 63, 81 and Jarryn Geary
Trade 42 (Confirmed)
Buenos Aires gives: Jared Petrenko and Ben Jacobs
Cairo gives: Pick 51 and Drew Petrie
Trade 43 (Confirmed)
Sao Paulo gives: Josh Growden
Moscow gives: Pick 42
Trade 44 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Picks 10, 38, Jeremy Howe and Sam Darley
Pacific gives: Picks 45, 60 and David Swallow
Trade 45 (Confirmed)
Pacific gives: Simon Black, Daniel Kerr and Pick 46
Mexico City gives: Ben Howlett
Trade 46 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Josh Green
Dublin gives: Pick 68, Rookie Pick 37, Lachie Neale
Trade 47 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Pick 18
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright
Trade 48 (Confirmed)
Pacific gives: Pick 5 and Sam Docherty
Dublin gives: Billy Longer and Adam Tomlinson
Trade 49 (Confirmed)
Pacific gives: Pick 10 + Lewis Roberts-Thomson
New Delhi gives: Pick 7
Trade 50 (Confirmed)
Tokyo gives: Picks 14, 61 and Matt Leuenberger
Toronto gives: Picks 13, 43 and Sam Mitchell
Trade 51 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Matt Rosa
Beijing gives: Shaun Grigg
Trade 52 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Pick 14, Preseason Draft 2nd Round and Liam Shiels
Beijing gives: Andrew swallow
Trade 53 (Confirmed)
Pacific gives: Picks 39, 71, Darren Jolly, Ben Cunnington and Levi Greenwood
Toronto gives: Matt Leuenberger
Trade 54 (Confirmed)
London gives: Pick 22
Moscow gives: Steven Morris
Trade 55 (Confirmed)
Seoul gives: Picks 28, 29 and Preseason Draft Pick 3
Beijing gives: Clancee Pearce
Trade 56 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Pick 37 and Nathan Foley
Wellington gives: Scott Thompson (Crows)
Trade 57 (Confirmed)
Welling gives: Sam Butler
Toronto gives: Rohan Bewick
Trade 58 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Chris Knights
Mexico City gives: James Sellar
Trade 59 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Pick 33, Ryan Bastinac, Bernie Vince, Michael Rischitelli, Kyal Horsley, Lewis Johnston
Cairo gives: Harley Bennell, Koby Stevens and Hayden Crozier
Trade 60 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Mark Seaby
London gives: Pick 64
Trade 61 (Confirmed)
Buenos Aires gives: Pick 34, Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Robert Warnock, Justin Westhoff and Daniel Nicholson
PNL gives: Pick 59, Matthew Pavlich, Steve Johnson and Adam Selwood
Trade 62 (Confirmed)
PNL gives: George Horlin-Smith
New Delhi gives: Jackson Trengove
Trade 63 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Pick 87
Beijing gives: Liam Jurrah
Trade 64 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Picks 22 and 30
Beijing gives: Shane Tuck
Trade 65 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Trent West and Pick 58
Tokyo gives: Picks 13, 25
Trade 66 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Steven Verrier
Buenos Aires gives: Pick 88
Trade 67 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Kyle Hardingham
Moscow gives: Jordan Russell
Trade 68 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Pick 76
Mexico City gives: Josh Mellington
Trade 69 (Confirmed)
New Delhi gives: Pick 10
Mexico City gives: Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Trade 70 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Ayce Cordy
PNL gives: Pick 59 + Jackson Paine
Trade 71 (Confirmed)
Ney York gives: Pick 59
Beijing gives: Mitch Morton
Trade 72 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Matthew Panos
PNL gives: Pick 77
Trade 73 (Confirmed)
Buenos Aires gives: Pick 34 + Clay Smith, Justin Westhoff, Brad McKenzie
PNL gives: Steve Johnson and Jared Brennan
Trade 74 (Confirmed)
New Delhi gives: Dayne Zorko
Pacific gives: Pick 38 + Sam Gibson, Cameron Wood
Trade 75 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Paul Chapman and Brent Harvey
Buenos Aires gives: Picks 51, 52 and Stewart Crameri
Trade 76 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Matt de Boer, Ahmed Saad, Jackson Paine and Shane Savage
Pacific gives: Pick 7 and Jarryd Blair
Trade 77 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Shaun Burgoyne
Mexico City receives: Pick 13
Berlin gives: Pick 13 + Jack Watts
Berlin receives: Jack Grimes
Dublin gives: Michael Barlow
Dublin receives: Jack Watts + Jese Stringer
Buenos Aires gives: Jack Grimes + Jesse Stringer
Buenos Aires receive: Michael Barlow + Shaun Burgoyne
Trade 78 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Picks 55 and 76
Beijing gives: Brian Lake
Trade 79 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Tory Dickson
Cairo gives: Bernie Vince
Trade 80 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Pick 52
Cairo gives: Aaron Young
Trade 81 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Pick 10 + Aaron Young
New York gives: Pick 7
Trade 82 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
New York gives: Pick 10 and Jack Hombsch
Trade 83 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Pick 10
Dublin gives: Brandon Ellis
Trade 84 (Confirmed)
Tokyo gives: Phil Davis and Jonathon Patton
PNL gives: Picks 4 and 23
Trade 85 (Confirmed)
Seoul gives: Pick 47 and Seb Ross
Tokyo gives: Heath Hocking
Trade 86 (Confirmed)
Beijing gives: Pick 48
Tokyo gives: Neville Jetta
Trade 87 (Confirmed)
Cape Town gives: Pick 36 and Sam Iles
London gives: Jeff Garlett
Trade 88 (Confirmed)
Moscow gives: Pick 21 and Sam Kerridge
Beijing gives: Picks 14 and 30
Trade 89 (Confirmed)
London gives: Fraser McInness
Moscow gives: Pick 77, Tom Young and Nathan Wilson
Trade 90 (Confirmed)
Seoul gives: Preseason Draft Pick 10 and Shannon Byrnes
Wellington gives: Joel Corey
Trade 91 (Confirmed)
Wellington gives: Pick 31
Sao Paulo gives: Rory Thompson
Trade 92 (Unconfirmed)
Beijing gives: Pick 59
Wellington gives: Aaron Cornelius
Trade 93 (Confirmed)
Berlin gives: Lachie Neal
Beijing gives: Pick 29
Trade 94 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Picks 50 + 71
Berlin gives: Pick 44
Trade 95 (Confirmed)
London gives: Rory Laird, Daniel Gorringe and Andrew Mackie
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom
Trade 96 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Robbie Gray and Kieran Harper
Dublin gives: Pick 5 and Tommy Walsh
Trade 97 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Pick 5 and Andrew Carrazzo
Buenos Aires gives: Mitch Robinson and Dan Nicholson
Trade 98 (Confirmed)
New York gives: Pick 75 and Dean Cox
Buenos Aires gives: Pick 5 and Josh Jenkins
Trade 99 (Confirmed)
Wellington gives: Jonathan Giles
New York gives: Pick 5
Trade 100 (Confirmed)
Toronto gives: Pick 61, Sam Fisher and Angus Monfries
New Delhi gives: Jordan Murdoch
Trade 101 (Unconfirmed)
Cairo gives: Pick 42, Sean Dempster and Andrew Krakouer
Wellington gives: Jed Adcock
Trade 102 Confirmed
Dublin give: Israel Folau
Moscow give: Pick 30
Trade 103 Confirmed
Mexico gives: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + Pick 13 + Pick 46 + Pick 51
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom
Trade 104 Confirmed
Moscow gives: Pick 14
Toronto gives: Angus Monfries
Trade 105 Confirmed
Seoul gives: Matthew Warnock and Tom Lonergan
London gives: Pick 36
Trade 106 Confirmed
Toronto gives: Sam Fisher, Pick 14 and Josh Toy
New Delhi gives: Dayne Zorko and Ben Mabon
Trade 107 Confirmed
Toronto gives: Sam Wright and Ben Hudson
London gives: Richard Douglas and Steven Morris
Trade 108 Confirmed
Toronto gives: Pick 86
Beunos Aires gives: David Rodan
Trade 109
Mexico gives: Picks 7 and 91
New Delhi gives: Pick 14 and Daniel Cross
Trade 110
Mexico gives: Pick 13, Pick 14, Pick 51, Daniel Kerr, Alan Toovey and Henry Schade.
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom and Pick 21
Trade 111
Berlin Gives: Pick 25, Pick 29, Tom Couch and Tom Downie
Wellington Gives: Reece Conca + Jack Fitzpatrick
Trade 112
Sao Paulo Pumas Trades: ND #32
New York Revolution Trades: Shane Kersten
Trade 113
Pacific gives: Nick Smith + Pick 2
Wellington gives: Thomas Bugg, Pick 5 and Pick 37
Trade 114
Seoul gives: Hayden Ballantyne and Pick 83
Cairo gives: Taylor Hunt and Pick 33
Trade 115
Seoul gives: Chris Dawes and Rhys Stanley
Pacific gives: Sam Darley and Jack Newnes
Trade 116
Moscow gives: Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul gives: Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Trade 117
Cape Town gives: Max Gawn + Pick 78
Berlin gives: Stefan Martin
Trade 118
Berlin gives: Pick 45
London gives: Cale Morton
Trade 119
Berlin gives: Daniel Talia
Pacific gives: Pick 37
Trade 120
Cairo gives: Pick 52
Seoul gives: Eric Mackenzie
Trade 121
Mexcio City gives: Mark LeCras and Pick 46
Seoul gives: Paul Duffield and picks 33 and 36
Trade 122
Cape Town give: Picks 15, 17 and Todd Elton
Cape Town receives: Pick 27, Nathan Bock and Lee Spurr
New York give: Jake Melksham and Jarryd Blair
New York receive: Picks 15, 26, Sam Fisher and Todd Elton
New Delhi give: Picks 26, 27, Sam Fisher, Nathan Bock and Lee Spurr
New Delhi receive: Pick 17, Jake Melksham and Jarryd Blair
Trade 123
Moscow give: Bernie Vince and Dayne Beams
Cairo gives: Pick 24, Leigh Adams and Callan Ward
Trade 124
Moscow Trades: Pick 24
Dublin Trades: Preseason Draft Pick 1
Trade 125
Cairo Trades: Ben Jacobs, Ryan Bastinac, Kyal Horsley, Cory Dell'Olio
New Delhi Trades: Pick 18, Josh Gibson, Clinton Young, Orren Stephenson
Trade 126
Mexico City trades: Brock McLean, Chris Knights
Cairo Trades: Pick 18, Jed Adcock, Bernie Vince
Trade 127
Berlin trades: Michael Evans + Pick 50
Cairo Trades: Jamie Cripps + Pick 63
Trade 128
Mexico City trades: Daniel Cross and Sam Gilbert
Buenos Aires trades: Shannon Hurn
Trade 129
Toronto trades: Pick 44, David Hale, Richard Douglas
Cairo trades: Pick 50, Brock McLean, Clinton Young
Trade 130
Cairo trades: Jonathon Griffin
PNL trades: Rohan Bail, Chris Newman
I remember last time we had to include reasons why were doing the trade to let the voters know why you thought it was fair for your team. Will we still have to do that?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 02, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
I remember last time we had to include reasons why were doing the trade to let the voters know why you thought it was fair for your team. Will we still have to do that?
I think we should... Just because it's interesting :P
Agree. Makes it easier to vote through trades as well.
Os, I may be wrong, but I was sure I had pick 5 in the draft. I counted in reverse order (yes I can count) and am fairly sure I was the fifth team.
Happy to be proven wrong, well not really, but just want to make sure this is cleared up. :)
I thought I had 6 :-X
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
Clarkson and Neeld can pull out of the trade anytime before Saturday if they receive a better offer.
Not a fan of this to be honest. Once a trade has been announced someone can look at it and go "Oh I want that player instead so even though they have agreed a deal with someone else I am going to try and hijack it." Which is exactly what Fark did in the Euros trading before the season. Someone would announce a trade and Fark would say "no don't trade with them I can offer you better." EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Fair enough voting that you don't think a trade is fair, but trying to take that player for yourself is not right. You say you want it to be as similar to the AFL as possible, and obviously they don't have the voting by the other coaches, but once a trade has been announced in the AFL another team can't come in and try and change the trade.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2012, 03:32:51 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
Clarkson and Neeld can pull out of the trade anytime before Saturday if they receive a better offer.
Not a fan of this to be honest. Once a trade has been announced someone can look at it and go "Oh I want that player instead so even though they have agreed a deal with someone else I am going to try and hijack it." Which is exactly what Fark did in the Euros trading before the season. Someone would announce a trade and Fark would say "no don't trade with them I can offer you better." EVERY SINGLE TIME!
Fair enough voting that you don't think a trade is fair, but trying to take that player for yourself is not right. You say you want it to be as similar to the AFL as possible, and obviously they don't have the voting by the other coaches, but once a trade has been announced in the AFL another team can't come in and try and change the trade.
After with this 100% I can see this leading to poaching. I'm happy for deals not to be locked in till voting occurs but a deal should only stop if the trade is deemed unfair in my opinion. As CF said as soon as a deal cones through people will try and undermine it to try andget a deal for themselves.
Something I would also like yo see is no comenting on trades till both people have agreed
In a massive 3-way deal struck just 3 hours after the trade window opened:
New York Gives:
National draft picks 2, 21, 39, 57 as well as Nick O'Brien and Alex Fasolo
New York Receives
National draft pick 80, Travis Cloke, Trent Mckenzie and Ayce Cordy
Reasoning
We were in dire need of a forward (as a lot of the teams in WXV are) and Travis Cloke fit the bill, despite question marks over where he'll be next year and whether he can get back to '11 form - We believe he's what we've been looking for. Additionally it is guaranteed he will remain selectable as a forward his entire career.
We needed a succession plan for our current ruck duo in Cox and Pyke. Both of them are 28 and are beginning to near the end of their careers. Ayce is 22 and has shown a lot of promise to date, after he puts on some more weight we are confident he will be able to duel with the best.
Trent Mckenzie also gives us a valuable boost in the midfield, and gives us wiggle room to offer some other players as trade bait this off-season.
(http://resources1.news.com.au/images/2012/09/02/1226463/204713-travis-cloke.jpg)
(Above) Travis Cloke shows his elation upon hearing about moving to NY (btw why do italics show as bold?)
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 04:32:42 AM
In a massiv 3 way deal struck just 3 hours after the trade window opened:
New York Gives:
National draft picks 2, 21, 39, 57 as well as Nick O'Brien and Alex Fasolo
New York Receives
National draft pick 80, Travis Cloke, Trent Mckenzie and Ayce Cordy
Reasoining
We were in dire need of a forward (as a lot of the teams in WXV are) and Travis Cloke fit the bill, despite question marks over where he'll be next year and whether he can get back to '11 form - We believe he's what we've been looking for. Additionally it is guaranteed he will remain selectable as a forward his entire career.
Additionally, we needed a succession plan for our current ruck duo in Cox and Pyke. Both of them are 28 and are beginning to near the end of their careers. Ayce is 22 and has shown a lot of promise to date, after he puts on some more weight we are confident he will be able to duel with the best.
Trent Mckenzie also gives us a valuable boost in the midfield, and gives us wiggle room to offer some other players as trade bait this off-season.
CONFIRMED
Tokyo Gives: Mckenzie, Blease, Pick 6, Cloke, Cordy
Tokyo Recieves: Judd, Pick 21, Suban, Townsend, Fasolo, Nick O'Brien
Reasoning:
We are aiming for top 4 next season and believe we needed another premium mid and Judd fits the bill. While we didn't really want to lose Mckenzie or pick 6 it was a sacrifice we were willing to make as we also gained 2 solid defenders who will help fix our weak defence in Townsend & Suban. Fasolo will replace Cloke in the forward line while Nick O'Brien will be good back up and may even replace another player likely to be traded who I won't mention just yet. Blease while he has potential isn't in our best side and quite a way back in the pecking order so he was happy to go to a new club. Cordy is a solid young ruckman and battled valiantly for the Samurai this year in place of the injured Leuenberger but we believe we can replace him fairly easily in the draft or via trade.
Also I apologise to all those interested in Cloke. If you feel you can offer a substantially better deal then you can still offer and I will consider before Saturday but it is unlikely.
Quote from: Boomz on September 03, 2012, 04:42:27 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 04:32:42 AM
In a massiv 3 way deal struck just 3 hours after the trade window opened:
New York Gives:
National draft picks 2, 21, 39, 57 as well as Nick O'Brien and Alex Fasolo
New York Receives
National draft pick 80, Travis Cloke, Trent Mckenzie and Ayce Cordy
Reasoining
We were in dire need of a forward (as a lot of the teams in WXV are) and Travis Cloke fit the bill, despite question marks over where he'll be next year and whether he can get back to '11 form - We believe he's what we've been looking for. Additionally it is guaranteed he will remain selectable as a forward his entire career.
Additionally, we needed a succession plan for our current ruck duo in Cox and Pyke. Both of them are 28 and are beginning to near the end of their careers. Ayce is 22 and has shown a lot of promise to date, after he puts on some more weight we are confident he will be able to duel with the best.
Trent Mckenzie also gives us a valuable boost in the midfield, and gives us wiggle room to offer some other players as trade bait this off-season.
CONFIRMED
Tokyo Gives: Mckenzie, Blease, Pick 6, Cloke, Cordy
Tokyo Recieves: Judd, Pick 21, Suban, Townsend, Fasolo, Nick O'Brien
Reasoning:
We are aiming for top 4 next season and believe we needed another premium mid and Judd fits the bill. While we didn't really want to lose Mckenzie or pick 6 it was a sacrifice we were willing to make as we also gained 2 solid defenders who will help fix our weak defence in Townsend & Suban. Fasolo will replace Cloke in the forward line while Nick O'Brien will be good back up and may even replace another player likely to be traded who I won't mention just yet. Blease while he has potential isn't in our best side and quite a way back in the pecking order so he was happy to go to a new club. Cordy is a solid young ruckman and battled valiantly for the Samurai this year in place of the injured Leuenberger but we believe we can replace him fairly easily in the draft or via trade.
Also I apologise to all those interested in Cloke. If you feel you can offer a substantially better deal then you can still offer and I will consider before Saturday but it is unlikely.
CONFIRMEDJust to clarify, the full three way trade is as follows:
Tokyo Samurai gives: Sam Blease, Travis Cloke, Trent McKenzie, Ayce Cody and ND pick 6.
Tokyo Samurai gets: Chris Judd, Alex Fasolo, Nick Suban, Jacob Townsend, Nicholas O'Brien and ND pick 21.
New York Eagles gives: Alex Fasolo, Nicholas O'Brien and ND picks 2, 21, 39 and 57.
New York Eagles recieves: Travis Cloke, Trent McKenzie, Ayce Cordy and ND pick 80.
Pacific Islanders give: Chris Judd, Nick Suban, Jacob Townsend and ND pick 80.
Pacific Islanders receive: Sam Blease and ND picks 2, 6, 39 and 57.
Our ReasoningThe Pacific Islanders have always maintained that we intend on heading in a more youth-orientated direction and getting two of the top 10 draft picks is a great result for the future of the club and something we were definitely after. We are still looking for young developing talent but in the meantime, Sam Blease fits that bill nicely after some great performances in recent weeks and we have no doubt that he'll be a fantastic midfielder in years to come and a great addition to the Islanders.
A great win for all clubs involved. Sad to see captain Judd go though. :-\
Yeah, reasoning does make it more interested, happy with that.
I think you've convinced me CF, happy to abolish the 'poaching' rule... what do others think?
And wow, big trade guys!
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2012, 07:19:33 AM
Yeah, reasoning does make it more interested, happy with that.
I think you've convinced me CF, happy to abolish the 'poaching' rule... what do others think?
And wow, big trade guys!
Ossie can you confirm about the draft order? :-X (See the above posts from ML & me)
Yeah, sorry guys, screwed up the order was looking at a different ladder lol.
Should be fixed now
and yeah I agree I'm not really a big fan of the poaching rule... I still say the trade should be able to be cancelled if both coaches agree to it though before the Saturday.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2012, 07:19:33 AM
Yeah, reasoning does make it more interested, happy with that.
I think you've convinced me CF, happy to abolish the 'poaching' rule... what do others think?
And wow, big trade guys!
Absolutely, don't think you should be able to offer on players involved in trades pending approval. That would get messy fast and could lead to a lot of conflict. Don't need it either, if you think you can get a better offer go and get it before you accept another trade :)
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2012, 07:28:27 AM
Yeah, sorry guys, screwed up the order was looking at a different ladder lol.
Should be fixed now
Cheers for that Os. Was really confused. :P
Agree on the no poaching rule to Oss. Could get messy and ugly with coaches coming in with better offers. Does not happen in the AFL trade room and should not happen here.
On the subject of trades:
The London Royals will trade Bob Murphy to Moscow in exchange for Johnathan Brown. Will be a virtual like for like trade as the Royals neeed some forward power.
As the Moscow coach states Bob Murphy and Brown are just about the same age, average roughly the same (take out Brown's round three score of 9 and they're almost exactly the same) and I reckon Brown has 3 years left in him, while Murphy would be looking at 1-2 years to go.
Cool I'm glad to see others agree, didn't want to make it sound like I was trying to run this place after also making comments about the draft picks/delisting... :-X
Anyway I've to 2 trades to announce :D
Trade 1 - Pumas and Wolves
Pumas Give: Sam Fisher and pick 53
Pumas Receive: Taylor Adams and pick 32
Reasoning: Was looking to cash in on Fisher whilst he still had a bit of value in him, and with my assumption that Hartlett will be a defender next season he wasn't vital to my plans. Picked up a promising midfielder as a result :)
Trade 2 - Pumas and Tigers
Pumas Give: Daniel Cross
Pumas Receive: Matthew Buntine and Jared Polec
Reasoning: Same as Fisher was cashing in on Cross's value as a high scoring mid. My younger mids are developing nicely and so thought Cross wouldn't be as important next year as he was this year. Picked up 2 players with a lot of potential, but haven't shown the high scoring ability just yet.
Now for RB and FS to confirm :)
This trade will be the first of many for the Berlin Brewers, as they look for a serious revamp of their list:
The Berlin Brewers trade:
Brent Moloney
The Mexico City Suns trade:
Daniel Talia
Reasoning: If my trades plans go to plan, Moloney's services are no longer required, and there are some much needed defense support in which I think Talia, given time, will eventually provide. Talia is not the best SC scorer, but neither was Moloney in 2012
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 03, 2012, 01:04:10 PM
This trade will be the first of many for the Berlin Brewers, as they look for a serious revamp of their list:
The Berlin Brewers trade:
Brent Moloney
The Mexico City Suns trade:
Daniel Talia
Reasoning: If my trades plans go to plan, Moloney's services are no longer required, and there are some much needed defense support in which I think Talia, given time, will eventually provide. Talia is not the best SC scorer, but neither was Moloney in 2012
Confirmed: Taking a risk on Moloney hoping he will get some of his 2011 form back. Talia has no immediate value to me due to my old list so I was happy to give him up despite his ability to have a "breakout" year. :)
Trade 2:
Mexico Give: Terry Milera and Kyle Reimers.
New Delhi Give: Daniel Merrett and Brent Harvey.
Reasoning: Need some short term scorers despite Boomer having most likely 1 year left. Willing to give up the 23 year olds as I'm not looking to the future.
Seoul Trades Ryan Griffen to Cairo for Josh J Kennedy
With Deledio and Dangerfield likely to lose MPP status, I need decent forwards, and have thousands of good midfielders. I feel if JJK revisits his 2011 form after injury, he'll be very handy. Yes, Griffen averages considerably more, but I need a forward, Cairo needs a midfielder.
Will wait for MajorLazer to confirm
Busy first day! Looks like there will be plenty to vote on at the end of the week. :o
Big Trade Here
Destroyers Trade: Mumford + Ward + Malceski
Sands Trade: Goldstein + Redden + Tomlinson
Reason: Goldy is 2 years younger and I believe he is the better ruck, was also worried about mummy and his durability, will be looking to on trade clarke or longer and for than i need a young solid ruck. Im a big fan of redden and feel its a slight upgrade on ward. Eski scores really well but I need forwards and Tomlinson injects so more youth into the squad.
Quote from: Ringo on September 03, 2012, 09:29:29 AM
On the subject of trades:
The London Royals will trade Bob Murphy to Moscow in exchange for Johnathan Brown. Will be a virtual like for like trade as the Royals neeed some forward power.
As the Moscow coach states Bob Murphy and Brown are just about the same age, average roughly the same (take out Brown's round three score of 9 and they're almost exactly the same) and I reckon Brown has 3 years left in him, while Murphy would be looking at 1-2 years to go.
WHAT!? Ringo just made all this up.
Just kidding. I accept.
Made another trade, this time with The Islanders...
Pumas Give: Jarryd Blair and pick 71
Pumas Receive: Andrew Walker and pick 26
Reasoning: Felt like cashing in on Blair for a better draft pick really.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Cool I'm glad to see others agree, didn't want to make it sound like I was trying to run this place after also making comments about the draft picks/delisting... :-X
Anyway I've to 2 trades to announce :D
Trade 1 - Pumas and Wolves
Pumas Give: Sam Fisher and pick 53
Pumas Receive: Taylor Adams and pick 32
Reasoning: Was looking to cash in on Fisher whilst he still had a bit of value in him, and with my assumption that Hartlett will be a defender next season he wasn't vital to my plans. Picked up a promising midfielder as a result :)
Trade 2 - Pumas and Tigers
Pumas Give: Daniel Cross
Pumas Receive: Matthew Buntine and Jared Polec
Reasoning: Same as Fisher was cashing in on Cross's value as a high scoring mid. My younger mids are developing nicely and so thought Cross wouldn't be as important next year as he was this year. Picked up 2 players with a lot of potential, but haven't shown the high scoring ability just yet.
Now for RB and FS to confirm :)
Confirmed, I meed a gun midfielder and Cross is just the player. He will be great for the team
Quote from: Maca24 on September 03, 2012, 01:19:08 PM
Trade 2:
Mexico Give: Terry Milera and Kyle Reimers.
New Delhi Give: Daniel Merrett and Brent Harvey.
Reasoning: Need some short term scorers despite Boomer having most likely 1 year left. Willing to give up the 23 year olds as I'm not looking to the future.
I team is full of old players so I need some younger yet mature players
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2012, 02:25:08 PM
Seoul Trades Ryan Griffen to Cairo for Josh J Kennedy
With Deledio and Dangerfield likely to lose MPP status, I need decent forwards, and have thousands of good midfielders. I feel if JJK revisits his 2011 form after injury, he'll be very handy. Yes, Griffen averages considerably more, but I need a forward, Cairo needs a midfielder.
Will wait for MajorLazer to confirm
Confirmed. Really need a gun midfielder as we were lacking that class through the middle last season.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 03:15:02 PM
Big Trade Here
Destroyers Trade: Mumford + Ward + Malceski
Sands Trade: Goldstein + Redden + Tomlinson
Reason: Goldy is 2 years younger and I believe he is the better ruck, was also worried about mummy and his durability, will be looking to on trade clarke or longer and for than i need a young solid ruck. Im a big fan of redden and feel its a slight upgrade on ward. Eski scores really well but I need forwards and Tomlinson injects so more youth into the squad.
Confirmed. The first two guys are very similar in potential and ability and Malceski gives the team some much needed backline depth.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2012, 04:59:19 PM
Made another trade, this time with The Islanders...
Pumas Give: Jarryd Blair and pick 71
Pumas Receive: Andrew Walker and pick 26
Reasoning: Felt like cashing in on Blair for a better draft pick really.
CONFIRMEDReasoningNeeded more youthful midfielder/foward type players and Blair is a welcome addition to the team. Happy to give up Andrew Walker and a second round in order to get him. Blair is said that he hopes to be part of the Islanders for many years to come.
Destroyers Receive: Mitch Clark + Nat Pick 30
Bears Receive: Josh Caddy + Nat Pick 19
Reason: while caddy does look like he will be a good player I need forwards. Giving a top 20 pick hurts as i think it coudl get a good player, however if im lucky a decent player might be left at pick 32.
Just finished a trade with os
New Delhi Tigers get: Brent Renouf and Ben Rutten
Seoul Magpies get: Brett Ebert
ReasoningI need a ruckman and a defender so these 2 will do the job. Ebert hasn't had a good year so he will get moved on
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 03, 2012, 06:17:04 PM
Just finished a trade with os
New Delhi Tigers get: Brent Renouf and Ben Rutten
Seoul Magpies get: Brett Ebert
ReasoningI need a ruckman and a defender so these 2 will do the job. Ebert hasn't had a good year so he will get moved on
At times this year I only had 5 forwards, with Danger and Power moving on, need another forward. Ebert would make a solid contributor...
Confirmed.
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Destroyers Receive: Mitch Clark + Nat Pick 32
Bears Receive: Josh Caddy + Nat Pick 19
Reason: while caddy does look like he will be a good player I need forwards. Giving a top 20 pick hurts as i think it coudl get a good player, however if im lucky a decent player might be left at pick 32.
Um I got pick 32 from Toronto. Bears had pick 30...
Another trade for the Sands
Sands trade: Jordan Lisle + Pick 60
Islanders trade: Josh Gibson
Reason: Still need defenders and rather have experienced players than have a lot of untried (to a certain extent) youth. I think the opposite applies for c4.
Wow.. Showers going off :P
Small trade between Cairo & Tokyo.
Tokyo gives: Sam Rowe + Koby Stevens
Tokyo receives: Shaun Hampson
Reasoning: As we already lost Cordy we wanted another ruckman who is likely to play as Leuenberger still has injury problems and may go down. Rowe is unlikely to play still & Stevens is way down the pecking order for us.
Quote from: Boomz on September 03, 2012, 07:18:18 PM
Small trade between Cairo & Tokyo.
Tokyo gives: Sam Rowe + Koby Stevens
Tokyo receives: Shaun Hampson
Reasoning: As we already lost Cordy we wanted another ruckman who is likely to play as Leuenberger still has injury problems and may go down. Rowe is unlikely to play still & Stevens is way down the pecking order for us.
Confirmed. Stevens looks like he could be a decent player next season and Rowe is just a backup who if he can get some games could turn out ok.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 03, 2012, 06:54:24 PM
Another trade for the Sands
Sands trade: Jordan Lisle + Pick 60
Islanders trade: Josh Gibson
Reason: Still need defenders and rather have experienced players than have a lot of untried (to a certain extent) youth. I think the opposite applies for c4.
CONFIRMEDReasoningNeeded more forwards due to lack of depth and we feel that Lisle will develop into the quality forward the Islanders are after, along with the others we have recently traded in. :)
Any chance we could have a small list made of the "to be voted upon" trades from today/this week?
A lot done today and hard to really see what has gone on! :o
Fresh after bein knocked out before the grand final the Pumas are rapidly changing their list. Now announcing a trade with Tokyo.
Pumas Give: Steven Motlop and picks 26 + 35
Pumas receive: Jack Gunston
Reasoning: I reckon Gunston has a bright future ahead of him and happy to give up a couple of draft picks plus Motlop who I see more of an impact player than consistent scorer :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2012, 09:03:15 PM
Fresh after bein knocked out before the grand final the Pumas are rapidly changing their list. Now announcing a trade with Tokyo.
Pumas Give: Steven Motlop and picks 26 + 35
Pumas receive: Jack Gunston
Reasoning: I reckon Gunston has a bright future ahead of him and happy to give up a couple of draft picks plus Motlop who I see more of an impact player than consistent scorer :)
Confirmed.
Reason: Gunston is good but I can't see him being a consistent scorer with the hawks fwd line at full strength & was happy to take Motlop who has potential to average more if he can break away from just being an impact player + the picks are handy.
Seoul trades Jack Steven and Pick #10 to Berlin for Paul Duffied, Liam Patrick, Seb Ross and Preseason Draft pick #3
Need a defender, and Duffield fits the bill. Don't think Deledio will keep his defender status next year, and have too many mids as it is. Pick 10 for some lesser knowns seal the deal.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 03, 2012, 09:33:00 PM
Seoul trades Jack Steven and Pick #10 to Berlin for Paul Duffied, Liam Patrick, Seb Ross and Preseason Draft pick #3
Need a defender, and Duffield fits the bill. Don't think Deledio will keep his defender status next year, and have too many mids as it is. Pick 10 for some lesser knowns seal the deal.
Confirmed!
Had a big focus to grab young midfielders that I think will one day become elite, if not already, and Steven is exactly that. Although Duffman is a loss, he doesn't fit with my premiership plans and I think will have a greater service elsewhere. Pick 10 is part of a master plan I have that will hopefully be revealed in the coming days. Liam Patrick and Sebastian Ross are unproven youngsters and I would prefer not to take the risk with them, whereas I don't value my rookie draft picks that much
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 06:16:32 PM
Destroyers Receive: Mitch Clark + Nat Pick 30
Bears Receive: Josh Caddy + Nat Pick 19
Reason: while caddy does look like he will be a good player I need forwards. Giving a top 20 pick hurts as i think it coudl get a good player, however if im lucky a decent player might be left at pick 32.
Confirmed.
Reason: caddy is a beast, and this draft is deep.
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
LOL ;D
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
LOL ;D
DECLINEDReasonSarcasm. I'm not that stupid.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:07:31 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
LOL ;D
Quote from: My Chumps on September 03, 2012, 11:04:52 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
LOL ;D
DECLINED
Reason
Sarcasm. I'm not that stupid.
or are you?
lol nah just kidding C4
Another massive three way trade has just been finalised between the Sands, the Islanders and the Tigers! :)
Sands gives: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young and pick 5.
Sands recieves: Drew Petrie and pick 8.
Islanders gives: Drew Petrie, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
Islanders recieves: Tom Rockliff and picks 5 and 45.
Tigers gives: Tom Rockliff and picks 8 and 45.
Tigers recieves: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
Islanders Reason
With Judd gone, we need to find a new perma-captain and Rockliff was a great find, as he fits our youth policy perfectly.
Plus, all parties involved believe this is a fair trade for all involved as we all get what we want. I recieve more youth, ML gets his well needed premium forward and FS gets the experienced players he wanted. Everyone wins.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
Another massive three way trade has just been finalised between the Sands, the Islanders and the Tigers! :o
Sands gives: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young and pick 5.
Sands recieves: Drew Petrie and pick 8.
Islanders gives: Drew Petrie, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
Islanders recieves: Tom Rockliff and picks 5 and 45.
Tigers gives: Tom Rockliff and picks 8 and 45.
Tigers recieves: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
Islanders Reason
With Judd gone, we need to find a new perma-captain and Rockliff was a great find, as he fits our youth policy perfectly.
Confirmed.
Montagna isn't needed anymore and with JJK traded away, a good forward was high on the agenda.
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
God that is in favour to you Sid ;D
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
God that is in favour to you Sid ;D
Go back to the Euros whatlez. :P
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
God that is in favour to you Sid ;D
Go back to the Euros whatlez. :P
:(. I'm here to support holz ;)
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
God that is in favour to you Sid ;D
Go back to the Euros whatlez. :P
:(. I'm here to support holz ;)
lez is an assistant coach
Quote from: Holzman on September 03, 2012, 11:41:13 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:36:15 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:27:29 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 03, 2012, 11:23:27 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 03, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
New York gives: Michael Rischitelli
New York gets: Dion Prestia & #2
Reasoning:
Rischa doesn't fit into the future plans of the club. Replacing him with a couple of promising younger players is just what the club needs :)
(http://i.imgur.com/ZdcIc.png)
God that is in favour to you Sid ;D
Go back to the Euros whatlez. :P
:(. I'm here to support holz ;)
lez is an assistant coach
Fine. But don't dirty up the place while you are here. :P
In a stunning move, the Pacific Islanders have made yet ANOTHER trade today! 8)
This time the trade is as follows:
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 71
Pacific Islanders recieve: Every single player from the New York Eagles.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3944/payback.png)
Reason
With the Eagles having a youth orientated team, it was only natural for the Islanders to attempt to broker a deal for some of their younger players. In this trade we gain the youth we need, and the Eagles get that draft pick they have been searching for. Win win. :D
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 12:45:07 AM
In a stunning move, the Pacific Islanders have made yet ANOTHER trade today! 8)
This time the trade is as follows:
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 71
Pacific Islanders recieve: Every single player from the New York Eagles.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3944/payback.png)
Reason
With the Eagles having a youth orientated team, it was only natural for the Islanders to attempt to broker a deal for some of their younger players. In this trade we gain the youth we need, and the Eagles get that draft pick they have been searching for. Win win. :D
Declined While we believe this had the potential to be a fair trade for both parties, the inclusion of Pyke in the trade is a deal breaker. :(
Quote from: Sid on September 04, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 12:45:07 AM
In a stunning move, the Pacific Islanders have made yet ANOTHER trade today! 8)
This time the trade is as follows:
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 71
Pacific Islanders recieve: Every single player from the New York Eagles.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3944/payback.png)
Reason
With the Eagles having a youth orientated team, it was only natural for the Islanders to attempt to broker a deal for some of their younger players. In this trade we gain the youth we need, and the Eagles get that draft pick they have been searching for. Win win. :D
Declined
While we believe this had the potential to be a fair trade for both parties, the inclusion of Pyke in the trade is a deal breaker. :(
Both Litres and MegaLitres are in the pic. :P
Quote from: Sid on September 04, 2012, 12:50:45 AM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 12:45:07 AM
In a stunning move, the Pacific Islanders have made yet ANOTHER trade today! 8)
This time the trade is as follows:
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 71
Pacific Islanders recieve: Every single player from the New York Eagles.
(http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/3944/payback.png)
Reason
With the Eagles having a youth orientated team, it was only natural for the Islanders to attempt to broker a deal for some of their younger players. In this trade we gain the youth we need, and the Eagles get that draft pick they have been searching for. Win win. :D
Declined
While we believe this had the potential to be a fair trade for both parties, the inclusion of Pyke in the trade is a deal breaker. :(
Good response Sid. Bravo. ;D
Don't want to sound cranky, but how bout we keep this thread to official trades, not made up ones so it doesn't get messy and ossie doesn't miss a trade ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 04, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
Don't want to sound cranky, but how bout we keep this thread to official trades, not made up ones so it doesn't get messy and ossie doesn't miss a trade ;)
This is you. Mr. Buzz Killington. lol
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But yeah, we had our fun. Back to real trades.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 01:37:50 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 04, 2012, 01:01:41 AM
Don't want to sound cranky, but how bout we keep this thread to official trades, not made up ones so it doesn't get messy and ossie doesn't miss a trade ;)
This is you. Mr. Buzz Killington. lol
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But yeah, we had our fun. Back to real trades.
Agreed. Going to be hard enough to keep track with the amount of trades that have gone through on day 1 :o
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 03, 2012, 11:12:05 PM
Another massive three way trade has just been finalised between the Sands, the Islanders and the Tigers! :)
Sands gives: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young and pick 5.
Sands recieves: Drew Petrie and pick 8.
Islanders gives: Drew Petrie, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
Islanders recieves: Tom Rockliff and picks 5 and 45.
Tigers gives: Tom Rockliff and picks 8 and 45.
Tigers recieves: Leigh Montagna, Clinton Young, Lee Spurr and pick 7.
I confirm this. We were always going to trade Rockliff. Pick 8 I didn't want to lose but I get pick 7 back ;D. I am looking for mature players and these 3 fit the deal. Spurr is 25, Montagna is 28 and Young is 26. They will fit in nicely to the New Delhi Tigers team
:/ crazy first day. Will sift through all of them and record them on the front page at some point today.
Noting some confusion - delisted players will be available in the National Draft, which is what happens in the AFL.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
:/ crazy first day. Will sift through all of them and record them on the front page at some point today.
Noting some confusion - delisted players will be available in the National Draft, which is what happens in the AFL.
Trades are up on the first page.
You're welcome. ;)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
:/ crazy first day. Will sift through all of them and record them on the front page at some point today.
Noting some confusion - delisted players will be available in the National Draft, which is what happens in the AFL.
Trades are up on the first page.
You're welcome. ;)
Lol, I just went through them ALL!!
Btw, c4 suggests that if a trade falls through, the coaches involved should have time to come up with another deal. I reckon Sunday is enough before the players become open slather....
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 09:31:38 AM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 04, 2012, 09:27:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 07:41:20 AM
:/ crazy first day. Will sift through all of them and record them on the front page at some point today.
Noting some confusion - delisted players will be available in the National Draft, which is what happens in the AFL.
Trades are up on the first page.
You're welcome. ;)
Lol, I just went through them ALL!!
Btw, c4 suggests that if a trade falls through, the coaches involved should have time to come up with another deal. I reckon Sunday is enough before the players become open slather....
Sunday and Monday.
You said it yourself, especially over the weekend, it'd be tough to get the coaches together with 24 hours.
sorry c4, have updated with my list above with numbers and such, appreciate all the work.
If I've missed anything or made a mistake, let me know!
I don't believe Sao Paulo and Toronto have confirmed there trade
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
sorry c4, have updated with my list above with numbers and such, appreciate all the work.
If I've missed anything or made a mistake, let me know!
I don't believe Sao Paulo and Toronto have confirmed there trade
All good oss. ;)
Also, I note some trades are conditioned on other trades going through! So will have to keep an eye on that
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 10:19:42 AM
Also, I note some trades are conditioned on other trades going through! So will have to keep an eye on that
Might want to flag those trades on the first page. :)
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
I don't believe Sao Paulo and Toronto have confirmed there trade
Bloody RB >:(
Ringo Gives: Michael Hurley
Ringo Recieves: Pick 20 + 22
Holz Gives: Pick 20 + Pick 30 + Pick 38
Holz Recieves: Michael Hurley
Purple Gives: Pick 22
Purple Recieves: Pick 30 + Pick 38
Reason: While the picks are valuable this year, I really need forwards and my forward lien was the reason why i came last this year. Adding Hurley and Mitch Clark should help this alot.
Quote from: Holzman on September 04, 2012, 09:25:57 PM
Ringo Gives: Michael Hurley
Ringo Recieves: Pick 20 + 22
Holz Gives: Pick 20 + Pick 30 + Pick 38
Holz Recieves: Michael Hurley
Purple Gives: Pick 22
Purple Recieves: Pick 30 + Pick 38
Reason: While the picks are valuable this year, I really need forwards and my forward lien was the reason why i came last this year. Adding Hurley and Mitch Clark should help this alot.
I confirm this trade, Early Draft Picks will help rebuild the Royals.
Wow. Well done Holz...
Quote from: Sid on September 04, 2012, 09:37:37 PM
Wow. Well done Holz...
i got the forward like i needed depends how the drafting goes. I think there could be some good players left with this draft. There are almost 20 players on my list.
Got in the players I want now I'm interested in upgrading my picks (or packaging them for a good player) - 21, 25, 26, 35 if anyone is keen let me know.
Pretty simple trade here between the Cape Town Cobras and ML's Cairo Sands.
Cobras give:
Lindsay Thomas
For
Cairos Jacob Brennan and pick 78
Reasoning because I get some more depth in my backline... Brennan is a young lad with a huge upside.
My Backline is a weak link so this should help in the coming years.
Pick 78 just because we can :P
Quote from: My Chumps on September 05, 2012, 12:13:07 AM
Pretty simple trade here between the Cape Town Cobras and ML's Cairo Sands.
Cobras give:
Lindsay Thomas
For
Cairos Jacob Brennan and pick 78
Reasoning because I get some more depth in my backline... Brennan is a young lad with a huge upside.
My Backline is a weak link so this should help in the coming years.
Pick 78 just because we can :P
Confirmed. Need some forwards badly and surely Thomas will learn how to kick straight sooner or later. Also traded to help out the Cobras, considering they couldn't even win the premiership. ::) :P
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 05, 2012, 12:16:38 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 05, 2012, 12:13:07 AM
Pretty simple trade here between the Cape Town Cobras and ML's Cairo Sands.
Cobras give:
Lindsay Thomas
For
Cairos Jacob Brennan and pick 78
Reasoning because I get some more depth in my backline... Brennan is a young lad with a huge upside.
My Backline is a weak link so this should help in the coming years.
Pick 78 just because we can :P
Confirmed. Need some forwards badly and surely Thomas will learn how to kick straight sooner or later. Also traded to help out the Cobras, considering they couldn't even win the premiership. ::) :P
Oh rough! :P
I apologize guys but should have posted this earlier but due to operator error any PM's I have received with trade offers from London Royals have inadvertently been deleted. If you are still interested in any Royals Players please feel free to again PM with me with offers from my unrestricted list in the thread. have not been active in trades to this week due to GF's.
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66177.0.html
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 04, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
I don't believe Sao Paulo and Toronto have confirmed there trade
Bloody RB >:(
RB where be you >:( I get a pick that came from it I think so he better confirm it :P
Quote from: Holzman on September 04, 2012, 09:25:57 PM
Ringo Gives: Michael Hurley
Ringo Recieves: Pick 20 + 22
Holz Gives: Pick 20 + Pick 30 + Pick 38
Holz Recieves: Michael Hurley
Purple Gives: Pick 22
Purple Recieves: Pick 30 + Pick 38
Reason: While the picks are valuable this year, I really need forwards and my forward lien was the reason why i came last this year. Adding Hurley and Mitch Clark should help this alot.
Confirmed. Whilst I'm losing a higher draft pick, I gain two slightly lower picks, or draft depth. Also, in a strong draft this year, I am confident I can select a couple of good youngins
Quote from: Boomz on September 05, 2012, 07:03:19 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 04, 2012, 11:20:40 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 04, 2012, 09:57:44 AM
I don't believe Sao Paulo and Toronto have confirmed there trade
Bloody RB >:(
RB where be you >:( I get a pick that came from it I think so he better confirm it :P
No you don't. You get a pick from c4 and my original second round pick. I'm keeping RB's one ;)
In a trade that will shock the nation WORLD....
Seoul trades pick 65 to Beijing for Jay Lever
Reason? I'm collecting St. Kilda rucks, not that many exist.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
In a trade that will shock the nation WORLD....
Seoul trades pick 65 to Beijing for Jay Lever
Reason? I'm collecting St. Kilda rucks, not that many exist.
Confirmed.
I like draft picks.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 05, 2012, 04:47:42 PM
In a trade that will shock the nation WORLD....
Seoul trades pick 65 to Beijing for Jay Lever
Reason? I'm collecting St. Kilda rucks, not that many exist.
A much more interesting trade than you might think... ;)
In a trade that will shock the world
New York Trades:
Nathan Fyfe
Jack Darling
Moscow Trades:
Allen Christensen
Ryan Bastinac
Tom Liberatore
Reasoning
While it's disappointing to lose a C option and a promising forward, Pyro and I really felt like this was a good trade for us. It gives us a nice boost in the midfield, which after seeing how the 2012 season unfolded appears to be increasingly important to have an elite midfield. While Darling leaving leaves a hole in the forward line, Allen can block that hole for at least 2 seasons & in the mean time we are confident we can draft or trade in another elite forward. We expect that Fyfe will lose his MPP at some point so we already had plans in place to replace him up forward.
Quote from: Sid on September 05, 2012, 08:27:24 PM
In a trade that will shock the world
New York Trades:
Nathan Fyfe
Jack Darling
Moscow Trades:
Allen Christensen
Ryan Bastinac
Tom Liberatore
Reasoning
While it's disappointing to lose a C option and a promising forward, Pyro and I really felt like this was a good trade for us. It gives us a nice boost in the midfield, which after seeing how the 2012 season unfolded appears to be increasingly important to have an elite midfield. While Darling leaving leaves a hole in the forward line, Allen can block that hole for at least 2 seasons & in the mean time we are confident we can draft or trade in another elite forward. We expect that Fyfe will lose his MPP at some point so we already had plans in place to replace him up forward.
CONFIRMED.
Moscow rate Liberatore and Bastinac as on the verge of being stars, but Nathan Fyfe is already at that level. We had to give up two quality mids to bring in one of the elite. Christensen is slightly ahead of Darling in our opinion, but we know that Darling will be a forward for his whole career and we don't have to worry about positional changes year to year.
Tokyo and Moscow have struck a deal.
Tokyo Gives: Pick 21+26
Tokyo Receives: Pick 14
Reasoning: Wanted to move up the draft order and moving out 2 for 1 is handy for list management.
Quote from: Boomz on September 06, 2012, 04:03:46 AM
Tokyo and Moscow have struck a deal.
Tokyo Gives: Pick 21+26
Tokyo Receives: Pick 14
Reasoning: Wanted to move up the draft order and moving out 2 for 1 is handy for list management.
Confirmed. 2 for 1 is handy list management indeed.
WHERE IS RB?? >:(
Does anybody want to trade with me? :'(
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 02:07:06 PM
Does anybody want to trade with me? :'(
Come on FFChat.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 02:07:06 PM
Does anybody want to trade with me? :'(
i'll be on soon to talk trades
i'm HP's senior assistant
Quote from: DazBurg on September 06, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 02:07:06 PM
Does anybody want to trade with me? :'(
i'll be on soon to talk trades
i'm HP's senior assistant
In only have an hour :P but sure.
Moscow and Cairo have completed a substancial trade.
The Sands receive: Harley Bennell, pick #26 and #51
The Spetsnaz receive: Ryan Griffen and pick #42
Moscow are happy to bring in one of the best mids in the league who is a little older and more advanced than the young gun we had to let go to get him.
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2012, 07:48:44 PM
Moscow and Cairo have completed a substancial trade.
The Sands receive: Harley Bennell, pick #26 and #51
The Spetsnaz receive: Ryan Griffen and pick #42
Moscow are happy to bring in one of the best mids in the league who is a little older and more advanced than the young gun we had to let go to get him.
Confirmed. Bennell is gonna be a dead set gun and the draft picks are a bonus. Didn't have Griffen for too long.
^ It was substantial, not substancial. I should have just kept it simple and said big.
Quote from: meow meow on September 06, 2012, 08:00:42 PM
^ It was substantial, not substancial. I should have just kept it simple and said big.
Lol. Coulda told me and I would've edited the quote. :P
i know this isn't the spot for this but
C4 in the Worlds directory do you think you could add a post of all the head coaches and there teams?
i know you have a team list but with so many teams if i have say 2 managers in mind and cannot remember there team names clicking through every single team makes it hard to remember next time whi team is which if i'm looking for different managers
if you get what i mean
So... After Maca has done winning the next 3 premierships, who's gonna win? :o
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 10:50:02 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 06, 2012, 10:45:23 PM
Buenos Aires give: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick
Mexico City Suns give: Pick 18, Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo
Confirmed: Helps me short term, that being said I'm pained to give away three 100pt averaging Mids aged 26,26 and 22.
Yeah, I'm sure you are ::)
I know you will all block vote me cas I'm a flag chance. But I actually hope you don't, and just look at the trade for what it is.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 10:54:44 PM
I know you will all block vote me cas I'm a flag chance. But I actually hope you don't, and just look at the trade for what it is.
I'm not basing my votes on any context of the trade. Only for the trade itself and I don't see it as fair. Sorry Maca.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 06, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 06, 2012, 10:54:44 PM
I know you will all block vote me cas I'm a flag chance. But I actually hope you don't, and just look at the trade for what it is.
I'm not basing my votes on any context of the trade. Only for the trade itself and I don't see it as fair. Sorry Maca.
Me too.
Sorry Maca.
It's a fair trade...
Ebert will be a future star @ 22 and already 100+ ave
Howlett should lift to 90-100 average
McLean = 110 ave next season
Ibbo = replace a 50-60 ave defender in my backline in the form of Wojo...
And with how deep this draft pick 18 = a quality player
All for 3 players who have 1-2 seasons left, Hurn and a spud pick.
well finally the Paris Nice Reindeers kick open there trade week in a deal with the Wellington Warriors
Reindeers give: Tendai Mzungu + Pick #41
Warriors give: Elliot Kavanagh + Jared Brennan
we are very happy with this getting a young mid to build for the future and well brennan may be inconsistent but can be a mastermind aswell and we are willing to gamble on that
Well, myself and the Armidillos have struck a deal.
Nails gives:
Smedts, Vardy and national draft pick 15
I give:
Jack Grimes
Reasoning:
Needed a ruck desperatley, and Vardy is the best young ruck prospect in the league IMO.
Smedts will be a star soon enough and adds to some young stars we have emerging in our backline.
Pick 15 is a handy one too.
Of course losing Grimes is a massive deal... but it's necessary for the direction the Cobras are going in.
Quote from: DazBurg on September 06, 2012, 11:04:01 PM
well finally the Paris Nice Reindeers kick open there trade week in a deal with the Wellington Warriors
Reindeers give: Tendai Mzungu + Pick #41
Warriors give: Elliot Kavanagh + Jared Brennan
we are very happy with this getting a young mid to build for the future and well brennan may be inconsistent but can be a mastermind aswell and we are willing to gamble on that
Confirmed, Wellington warriors rate young Mzungu very highly and as he is still only 26 he should still improve aswell and we hope to get a half decent late steal with pick 41 in the draft
Buenos Aires give: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick + Crameri
Buenos Aires recieve: Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo + Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Mexico City Suns give: Pick 18, Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo
Mexico City Suns receive: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick
Dublin give: Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Dublin Recieve: Pick 18 + Crameri
Quote from: My Chumps on September 06, 2012, 11:09:36 PM
Well, myself and the Armidillos have struck a deal.
Nails gives:
Smedts, Vardy and national draft pick 15
I give:
Jack Grimes
Reasoning:
Needed a ruck desperatley, and Vardy is the best young ruck prospect in the league IMO.
Smedts will be a star soon enough and adds to some young stars we have emerging in our backline.
Pick 15 is a handy one too.
Of course losing Grimes is a massive deal... but it's necessary for the direction the Cobras are going in.
Confirmed
Quote from: Holzman on September 06, 2012, 11:15:03 PM
Buenos Aires give: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick + Crameri
Buenos Aires recieve: Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo + Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Mexico City Suns give: Pick 18, Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo
Mexico City Suns receive: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick
Dublin give: Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Dublin Recieve: Pick 18 + Crameri
Confirmed.
Quote from: Holzman on September 06, 2012, 11:15:03 PM
Buenos Aires give: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick + Crameri
Buenos Aires recieve: Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo + Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Mexico City Suns give: Pick 18, Howlett, Ebert, McLean, Foley and Ibbo
Mexico City Suns receive: Swan, Boyd, Hurn, Scotland 2nd round PSD pick
Dublin give: Pick 1 + Scott.D.Thompson
Dublin Recieve: Pick 18 + Crameri
Accepted: Helps me short term, although I lose literally all my depth.
3 guys averaging 100+ aged 26,26 and 22. Plus an 86 average 23yr old on the improve for three guys with 2 seasons left.
Good for me short term, Good for Nails long term.
Front page updated, just the 1 trade yet to be confirmed....
Ossie been trying to find out but can not see anywhere what is the cut off time for trades to registered in each weeks voting. eg any trades agreed today will they be included.
If not specified think we probably need to have a deadline in place to allow ample time to get votes organised.
Quote from: Ringo on September 08, 2012, 09:25:34 AM
Ossie been trying to find out but can not see anywhere what is the cut off time for trades to registered in each weeks voting. eg any trades agreed today will they be included.
If not specified think we probably need to have a deadline in place to allow ample time to get votes organised.
Good point Ringo, voting goes out on Monday, so Sunday midnight sounds fair
Sorry CF, was in the bush doing some camping this week!
Confirm the Fisher/Adams trade
Reasoning:
Need defenders and Fisher should still have a bit left in him. Adams, while promising, isn't vitally important due to having a plethora of midfielders.
ML and I have struck a deal
New Delhi gives: Nick Dal Santo
Cairo gives: Josh Gibson + NAT pick 26
Reasoning: I wanted Dal Santo out and I think I need a stronger backline a top 30 pick is also a good pickup
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 08, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
ML and I have struck a deal
New Delhi gives: Nick Dal Santo
Cairo gives: Josh Gibson + NAT pick 26
Reasoning: I wanted Dal Santo out and I think I need a stronger backline a top 30 pick is also a good pickup
Confirmed. I really needed some more class in the midfield and I feel that even though I need Gibson, that this is a good enough deal to lose him.
No worries RB. Was worried about you ;)
Haha um.... :-X
Just a question Oss is their any reason why we vote for a week. Surely we can put a cut off time for Wednesday. Reason I am suggesting this is trades do not get approved we have very little time before next trade period to adjust.
Just suggesting maybe we can use a time table like this:
Saturday Midnight Trade week closed
Sunday Trades for week listed and voting commences.
Wednesday Midnight Voting closes with resukts displayed Thursday.
This timeline gives you a chance to negotiate more trades prior to the next lock out.
Quote from: Ringo on September 08, 2012, 06:10:18 PM
Just a question Oss is their any reason why we vote for a week. Surely we can put a cut off time for Wednesday. Reason I am suggesting this is trades do not get approved we have very little time before next trade period to adjust.
Just suggesting maybe we can use a time table like this:
Saturday Midnight Trade week closed
Sunday Trades for week listed and voting commences.
Wednesday Midnight Voting closes with resukts displayed Thursday.
This timeline gives you a chance to negotiate more trades prior to the next lock out.
Totally agree! :)
Trying to give people enough time to vote in the off-season, I like to pretend I have a life outside this :)
How about this - as soon as a trade has enough votes to rejected, we let everybody know?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Trying to give people enough time to vote in the off-season, I like to pretend I have a life outside this :)
How about this - as soon as a trade has enough votes to rejected, we let everybody know?
Happy with that. :)
Like that Oss - my concern was only limited time to renegotiate trades.
Not sure if this has been asked or mentioned...
...is the trade window still open while voting is taking place?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Trying to give people enough time to vote in the off-season, I like to pretend I have a life outside this :)
How about this - as soon as a trade has enough votes to rejected, we let everybody know?
I'm a fan of that too. That would work perfectly IMO, because if you wait the maximum time, that means the trade went through and re-negotiations are not needed
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 08, 2012, 08:14:45 PM
Not sure if this has been asked or mentioned...
...is the trade window still open while voting is taking place?
Can't see why not :)
Quote from: ossie85 on September 08, 2012, 07:57:28 PM
Trying to give people enough time to vote in the off-season, I like to pretend I have a life outside this :)
How about this - as soon as a trade has enough votes to rejected, we let everybody know?
I tried that but turns out time spent sleeping doesn't count :-[
QuoteCairoSands: may block the trade just for that comment
Coaches can neg trades just on personal feelings or disliking a coach, or fear that one team may become suddenly better than theirs. This voting system might need a re-think.
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
QuoteCairoSands: may block the trade just for that comment
Coaches can neg trades just on personal feelings or disliking a coach, or fear that one team may become suddenly better than theirs. This voting system might need a re-think.
Never said I disliked you Nails.
Might just block the trade for that comment. :P
Context.
You had personal feelings towards my comment.
You're meant to block a trade on the merits of the trade alone. Not how strong a team may become, not whether the team may dominate you in the future, not weather coach x says wow that trade is top notch or whatnot. It should be on the merit of the trades alone. One which Maca and I proposed a fair trade for both teams.
It was a joke Nails you flog.
People are going to block your trade because they see it as unfair, whether you do or not, it doesn't matter.
Stop being a whiny douche about it ::)
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 09, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
QuoteCairoSands: may block the trade just for that comment
Coaches can neg trades just on personal feelings or disliking a coach, or fear that one team may become suddenly better than theirs. This voting system might need a re-think.
Never said I disliked you Nails.
Might just block the trade for that comment. :P
Context.
What comment?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 09, 2012, 02:00:29 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 09, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
QuoteCairoSands: may block the trade just for that comment
Coaches can neg trades just on personal feelings or disliking a coach, or fear that one team may become suddenly better than theirs. This voting system might need a re-think.
Never said I disliked you Nails.
Might just block the trade for that comment. :P
Context.
What comment?
Nails comment on chat was:
Nails: Ebert = Swan 2.0
ML then said: may block the trade just for that comment
As a joke... and Nails posted it on here ::)
Quote from: My Chumps on September 09, 2012, 02:04:21 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 09, 2012, 02:00:29 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 09, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2012, 01:52:32 AM
QuoteCairoSands: may block the trade just for that comment
Coaches can neg trades just on personal feelings or disliking a coach, or fear that one team may become suddenly better than theirs. This voting system might need a re-think.
Never said I disliked you Nails.
Might just block the trade for that comment. :P
Context.
What comment?
Nails comment on chat was:
Nails: Ebert = Swan 2.0
ML then said: may block the trade just for that comment
As a joke... and Nails posted it on here ::)
Exactly.
That is all that comment was. Everyone knew it and reacting like this Nails wasn't right.
Can't believe people take me seriously at all. :P
I understand sarcasm isn't conveyed very well over the internet, but still.
I always knew it was a joke, but that's not the point.
My point is in this system, you only need a couple butthurt/insulted managers to neg your vote along w/ a few other managers who disagree and your trade is screwed.
The fact that one comment has the POTENTIAL to cause a couple to neg a trade = a weakness in the system - IMO.
Quote from: Nails on September 09, 2012, 02:16:55 AM
I always knew it was a joke, but that's not the point.
My point is in this system, you only need a couple butthurt/insulted managers to neg your vote along w/ a few other managers who disagree and your trade is screwed.
The fact that one comment has the POTENTIAL to cause a couple to neg a trade = a weakness in the system - IMO.
I'm fairly sure you need to post a reason why you are voting against a trade and if Os deems the reason unacceptable or he sees the exact same reason over and over, I'm sure he would intervene.
Once a trade has been confirmed, do you guys think a the trade can be cancelled prior to voting? I only think this should be able to done if both parties agree....
thoughts?
Yeah if both teams agree to cancel the trade that sounds fine. But can't be one team wanting to cancel cos they have found a "better" deal
I think if a trade is to be cancelled after it has been confirmed then all parties should agree to cancell the trade. This fair.
Why should a trade be able to be cancelled by one party. eg If I have confirmed a trade but have second thoughts unless we have this safeguard in place I could just cancel the trade. Not right imo.
Yep, definitely agree with the above posts.
If you have second thoughts, bring them up before you confirm the trade.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 09, 2012, 05:13:40 PM
Yep, definitely agree with the above posts.
If you have second thoughts, bring them up before you confirm the trade.
You could formally agree to an escape clause between teams?
CF is in for a nervous wait. a broken toe would be 1-6 weeks. an achilles would be 2013 bye bye. :'(
Quote from: Torpedo10 on September 09, 2012, 06:07:48 PM
CF is in for a nervous wait. a broken toe would be 1-6 weeks. an achilles would be 2013 bye bye. :'(
:-\
Yeah I agree should be able to be cancelled if both parties agree.
New Trade
Cairo Sands give: Pick 8+ Josh Hill
London Royals give: Luke Breust
Reason: May be my Hawthorn bias coming into it, but Breust has a very bright future and I can see him getting more time in the middle now that WhiteX will be out for a while. Also very unsure on who to draft, so trading away the pick is kind of a blessing in disguise as I reckon I would've stuffed it up anyway. :P
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 09, 2012, 10:02:31 PM
New Trade
Cairo Sands give: Pick 8+ Josh Hill
London Royals give: Luke Breust
Reason: May be my Hawthorn bias coming into it, but Breust has a very bright future and I can see him getting more time in the middle now that WhiteX will be out for a while. Also very unsure on who to draft, so trading away the pick is kind of a blessing in disguise as I reckon I would've stuffed it up anyway. :P
Confirmed - Whilst Breust is one of your young guns Hill has been scoring similar to Breust and we now have an early draft pick to aid our rebuilding.
Early Monday morning and we have 5 votes back so far, good early response.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
Early Monday morning and we have 5 votes back so far, good early response.
If a trade gets knocked back, will it be made public as soon as it happens?
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 10, 2012, 12:11:29 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2012, 11:49:11 AM
Early Monday morning and we have 5 votes back so far, good early response.
If a trade gets knocked back, will it be made public as soon as it happens?
Yes, but the spefic details (reasons, etc) won't be until Saturday Midday
Also, as soon as a trade passes it will be announced...
Just submitted my votes. Only had a problem with 1 trade :OOOOOOOOOO
WHICH TRADE WAS IT? :O OH THE SUSPENSE!!!
Quote from: Nails on September 10, 2012, 12:26:03 PM
Just submitted my votes. Only had a problem with 1 trade :OOOOOOOOOO
WHICH TRADE WAS IT? :O OH THE SUSPENSE!!!
Same with me...
Right... 14 coaches votes in, meaning we can...
REJECT: 0 trades so far
STILL PENDING: 5
CONFIRMED: 22
...
See results on page 1 btw
And another trade passed!
0 rejects, 4 pending, 23 accepted
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2012, 07:30:43 PM
Right... 14 coaches votes in, meaning we can...
REJECT: 0 trades so far
STILL PENDING: 5
CONFIRMED: 22
...
See results on page 1 btw
I only count 4 still pending not 5...
Gah now I am worried about my Cross trade!! How is it not fair?? Also the trade I tried to block got accepted, wonder if I was the only one who said no...
^ see post above CF
Wow, can't believe a certain trade went through.........
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 10, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
Wow, can't believe a certain trade went through.........
5 coaches voting against could be awkward. :-X
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 10, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
Wow, can't believe a certain trade went through.........
Which trade?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 10, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
Wow, can't believe a certain trade went through.........
Which trade?
At the risk of getting boo's I won't say, but it didn't involve you :)
Know it is a bit late but should we be excluded from voting on our own trades to avoid conflict of interest. Just thought of it as I was going through the trades especially with one of the unconfirmed trades involving me.
Quote from: Ringo on September 10, 2012, 09:08:29 PM
Know it is a bit late but should we be excluded from voting on our own trades to avoid conflict of interest. Just thought of it as I was going through the trades especially with one of the unconfirmed trades involving me.
We're only really voting 'no' so I don't think a conflict exists, people disagree?
Yeah don't see it being a problem. Also ossie did you enjoy a certain coaches very long PM? :P Was writing it for like 2 hours when I was on the chat last night :-X
Quote from: Boomz on September 10, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
Yeah don't see it being a problem. Also ossie did you enjoy a certain coaches very long PM? :P Was writing it for like 2 hours when I was on the chat last night :-X
Which one is that sorry Boomz? Had a few walls of text!
Only one coach left to vote (Hellopplz) so won't release details just yet cos he still needs to vote.... But his vote won't make a difference...
2 trades rejected.
25/27 ain't bad.
Congratulations to all coaches 17/18 voted by 8:30 on Monday Night. Well done all.
Thanks for rejecting my trade guys?
Quote from: Maca24 on September 10, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
Thanks for rejecting my trade guys?
Sorry Maca, reasons will be published when our last coach votes...
Also, draft order updated..
What's up with Pick 26?!?! Already on it's 6th owner
Yeah just saw that. Also I am in a deal right now that would see me grab pick 25. Picks 25, 26, 27
Hooray the trade passed :)
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 10, 2012, 09:45:49 PM
Yeah just saw that. Also I am in a deal right now that would see me grab pick 25. Picks 25, 26, 27
I have 25 and don't remember this supposed deal :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
Hooray the trade passed :)
Your lucky I didn't reject yours...
Quote from: Maca24 on September 10, 2012, 09:34:44 PM
Thanks for rejecting my trade guys?
Yeah flower this. Fair trade getting rejected. Hug the police. I want the reasons.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 10:28:22 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 10, 2012, 09:58:36 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 09:47:44 PM
Hooray the trade passed :)
Your lucky I didn't reject yours...
What was wrong with it?
If we are talking about the Cross trade you received two future 100+ averaging players who are both under 20 years old for an old, past it midfielder averaging in the 90's aged 30 in Cross.
Well neither have really shown that scoring potential yet so it's a lottery if they do score well or not. I'm losing big short term for potential long term gain...
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
Well neither have really shown that scoring potential yet so it's a lottery if they do score well or not. I'm losing big short term for potential long term gain...
Guaranteed long term gain. Both are Top 8 Draft Picks.
It's the same story with my trade, short term gain, long term pain yet you rejected mine?
Quote from: Maca24 on September 10, 2012, 11:21:48 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
Well neither have really shown that scoring potential yet so it's a lottery if they do score well or not. I'm losing big short term for potential long term gain...
Guaranteed long term gain. Both are Top 8 Draft Picks.
It's the same story with my trade, short term gain, long term pain yet you rejected mine?
I didn't reject it ::)
Quote from: Boomz on September 10, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
Yeah don't see it being a problem. Also ossie did you enjoy a certain coaches very long PM? :P Was writing it for like 2 hours when I was on the chat last night :-X
It didn't take 2 hours. ::)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:22:37 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 10, 2012, 11:21:48 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 10, 2012, 11:19:45 PM
Well neither have really shown that scoring potential yet so it's a lottery if they do score well or not. I'm losing big short term for potential long term gain...
Guaranteed long term gain. Both are Top 8 Draft Picks.
It's the same story with my trade, short term gain, long term pain yet you rejected mine?
I didn't reject it ::)
That surprises me, if that's the case I withdraw my complaint :P
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
I think you did in chat, might be wrong though.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
I think you did in chat, might be wrong though.
CF can't get on the chat. Some firewall thing, if I am correct.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 11, 2012, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
I think you did in chat, might be wrong though.
CF can't get on the chat. Some firewall thing, if I am correct.
Yep that's right. Has there been someone on there imitating me?? :o
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:51:03 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 11, 2012, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
I think you did in chat, might be wrong though.
CF can't get on the chat. Some firewall thing, if I am correct.
Yep that's right. Has there been someone on there imitating me?? :o
Maybe... :P
Nah Maca must have just got confused for a second.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 11, 2012, 12:51:56 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:51:03 AM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 11, 2012, 12:42:46 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 12:36:33 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 12:35:20 AM
Why do you think I would have rejected it? Did you ever see me complain about it when it was announced?
I think you did in chat, might be wrong though.
CF can't get on the chat. Some firewall thing, if I am correct.
Yep that's right. Has there been someone on there imitating me?? :o
Maybe... :P
Nah Maca must have just got confused for a second.
Correct, :/ had a lot of people against it so got confused who was who :P hahaha
Rightio, still waiting on HP, but I can see people want to know the reasons.....
Trade 6
Proposed Trade:
Mexico City Gives: Terry Milera and Kyle Reimers
New Delhi Gives: Daniel Merrett and Brent Harvey
Voted against: 7 (Boomz, MajorLazer, meow meow, My Chumps, ossie85, pyronerd, Ringo)
Reasons included:
- Terry Milera not considered to have great fantasy potential
- Kyle Reimers uncertain of Job Security at Essendon, could be delisted and even if not will likely have limited game time next year
- Brent Harvey is old, but proven high scorer, and even if one season left could be one more than Reimers has
- While not dominant, Daniel Merrett is a clear back-starter with strong job security, Milera and Reimers are fringe.
- Averages disproportionate (Harvey 94.91, Merrett 77.05 for Milera 63.07 and Reimers 56.20)
Trade 25
Proposed Trade:
Buenos Aires give: 2nd round Preseason Draft pick and Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Shannon Hurn, Heath Scotland and Stewart Crameri
Buenos Aires receive: Pick 1, Ben Howlett, Brad Ebert, Brock McLean, Nathan Foley, Garrick Ibbotson, Scott D. Thompson
Mexico City gives: Pick 18, Ben Howlett, Brad Ebert, Brock McLean, Nathan Foley, Garrick Ibbotson
Mexico City receives: 2nd round Preseason Draft pick, Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Shannon Hurn, Heath Scotland
Dublin gives: Pick 1 and Scott D Thompson
Dublin receives: Pick 18 and Stewart Crameri
Voted against: 6 (Boomz, c4v3m4n, ossie85, Purple 77, pyronerd, Ringo)
Reasons included:
- Mexico City domination of trade, receiving 4 extremely high quality players while loosing fringe-very good players only.
- Dublin's loss of #1 pick is poorly compensated
- Dublin's Scott Thompson deemed more valuable than Buenos Aires Stewart Crameri, definately not enough for the #1 and #18 swap
- Buenos Aires' Shannon Hurn not adiquately compensated
- Damaging to the competition given Mexico City's already strong squad
- Value of 2nd round Presason draft pick deemed to be not worth much
- Swan and Boyd still have a couple of strong seasons left
- Though old, Heath Scotland was of only a few century averaging defenders
- Dublin and (to a lesser extent) Buenos Aires lose too much
Ok, just remember, we all have the rights for our opinions, and have months to sort things out.
I also think the voting system is working - 25 from 27 trades went through. More than I thought would, given I objected to 6 trades :/
question
i know HP hasn't voted but if his votes won't make a difference is it all that important?
Quote from: DazBurg on September 11, 2012, 09:23:54 AM
question
i know HP hasn't voted but if his votes won't make a difference is it all that important?
Seems unfair for everybody else to express sometimes difficult opinions, plus if he doesn't it gives people incentive to leave voting until the last minute.
Any chance you would give numbers on the other trades? No need for names just would be interesting :-X
Yeah, will do - but will insist on waiting for HP after this...
Also, for the 2 trades that have been rejected, please give time for those to make another deal! Open slather from Thursday I think.
QuoteMexico City domination of trade, receiving 4 extremely high quality players while loosing fringe-very good players only.
QuoteBuenos Aires' Shannon Hurn not adiquately compensated
Gaining 3 100+ ave players and 1 soon-to-be 100+ ave player? For players who have a combined 6-7 seasons left at best (Scotland, Boyd and Swan)
???
QuoteDamaging to the competition given Mexico City's already strong squad
Stupid flowering neg. Meant to be on the value of the trade, not the fact your team can't trade better than Maca's.
QuoteThough old, Heath Scotland was of only a few century averaging defenders
And has 0-1 seasons left, therefore essentially worthless. Now if I'm not allowed to trade him I lose a huge asset when he retires next season.
QuoteDublin and (to a lesser extent) Buenos Aires lose too much
Surprisingly it was actually Dublin who wanted that trade. Dublin were the ones that proposed it. Crammers is 95-100 ave fwd, Thompson is stuck as an 85ave back who is 2 years older than Crammers, was fair trade I thought.
QuoteValue of 2nd round Presason draft pick deemed to be not worth much
So while others neg'd saying Maca ripped me off, this person is insinuating I ripped Maca off? :-\
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Also, for the 2 trades that have been rejected, please give time for those to make another deal! Open slather from Thursday I think.
Happy to see this introduced and I'm sure that coaches that were unlucky about vetoed trades would agree too. :)
And Nails, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you don't like it, perhaps this game isn't right for you. :-X
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
QuoteDamaging to the competition given Mexico City's already strong squad
Stupid flowering neg. Meant to be on the value of the trade, not the fact your team can't trade better than Maca's.
Sorry Nails, the purpose of voting for trades is to keep the league in good shape. There is no other reason why we would vote.
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
QuoteThough old, Heath Scotland was of only a few century averaging defenders
And has 0-1 seasons left, therefore essentially worthless. Now if I'm not allowed to trade him I lose a huge asset when he retires next season.
Unfortunately Nails, you said he was worthless but yet you would lose a lot when he retired.... Can't be both.
Quote from: Nails on September 11, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
QuoteDublin and (to a lesser extent) Buenos Aires lose too much
Surprisingly it was actually Dublin who wanted that trade. Dublin were the ones that proposed it. Crammers is 95-100 ave fwd, Thompson is stuck as an 85ave back who is 2 years older than Crammers, was fair trade I thought.
Crameri averaged 83 last year, and 78.50 this year. Thompson averaged 87 this year, and 84 last year.
Just to interrupt the whinging I will announce a trade between myself and Moscow.
Pumas trade Josh Growden and receive pick 42.
Reasoning: Growden has heaps of potential, but I have plenty of forwards and mids so don't really have much use for him.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 04:09:25 PM
Just to interrupt the whinging I will announce a trade between myself and Moscow.
Pumas trade Josh Growden and receive pick 42.
Reasoning: Growden has heaps of potential, but I have plenty of forwards and mids so don't really have much use for him.
Confirmed.
Growden has a left boot that is suited to SC and he's as good as any player who'll go in the 40's in our draft so we think that we're getting good value here, if he can recover from his broken leg properly.
Damaging to the competition given mexicos dominance? Gah I'm starting to dislike this system. Terrible reasoning, punishing me for having a good team ::). And the Harvey trade is obviously only a slight average differential considering the age gap. I don't think it deserved rejecting. I can see why the trade with nails did, the Holz part was way unfair.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 11, 2012, 11:56:28 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2012, 11:40:58 AM
Also, for the 2 trades that have been rejected, please give time for those to make another deal! Open slather from Thursday I think.
Happy to see this introduced and I'm sure that coaches that were unlucky about vetoed trades would agree too. :)
And Nails, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. If you don't like it, perhaps this game isn't right for you. :-X
This! 8)
QuoteUnfortunately Nails, you said he was worthless but yet you would lose a lot when he retired.... Can't be both.
Yes... it makes sense.
He's worthless as an asset for trades, but decent whilst at the club. Therefore he shouldn't be traded for much because he's not worth much, but when he does retire it's a big loss for whoever owns him.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 10, 2012, 09:23:46 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 10, 2012, 09:18:18 PM
Yeah don't see it being a problem. Also ossie did you enjoy a certain coaches very long PM? :P Was writing it for like 2 hours when I was on the chat last night :-X
Which one is that sorry Boomz? Had a few walls of text!
Only one coach left to vote (Hellopplz) so won't release details just yet cos he still needs to vote.... But his vote won't make a difference...
2 trades rejected.
25/27 ain't bad.
Sent as wasn't on yesterday and I no longer receive emails for PMs I get on FF for some reason so don't know if I've gotten any unless I log in (have been busy) -_-.
I may be harsher after this first week :-X.
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Sent as wasn't on yesterday and I no longer receive emails for PMs I get on FF for some reason so don't know if I've gotten any unless I log in (have been busy) -_-.
Have you changed your preferences? Go to profile --> modify profile --> personal messaging and check whether it says never or always for "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message" :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Sent as wasn't on yesterday and I no longer receive emails for PMs I get on FF for some reason so don't know if I've gotten any unless I log in (have been busy) -_-.
Have you changed your preferences? Go to profile --> modify profile --> personal messaging and check whether it says never or always for "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message" :)
It's always had that option clicked, well for past 2 and a bit years. Checked back like 2-3 weeks ago when I didn't get email notifications and logged on to see 5+ PMs and it was still selected so I'm assuming it's a bug ???.
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 06:09:10 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Sent as wasn't on yesterday and I no longer receive emails for PMs I get on FF for some reason so don't know if I've gotten any unless I log in (have been busy) -_-.
Have you changed your preferences? Go to profile --> modify profile --> personal messaging and check whether it says never or always for "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message" :)
It's always had that option clicked, well for past 2 and a bit years. Checked back like 2-3 weeks ago when I didn't get email notifications and logged on to see 5+ PMs and it was still selected so I'm assuming it's a bug ???.
Something similar happened to me, except it was the option of sending a copy of my sent mail to my outbox. ???
Wondering if had something to do with the layout change.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 11, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 06:09:10 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 11, 2012, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 11, 2012, 05:47:56 PM
Sent as wasn't on yesterday and I no longer receive emails for PMs I get on FF for some reason so don't know if I've gotten any unless I log in (have been busy) -_-.
Have you changed your preferences? Go to profile --> modify profile --> personal messaging and check whether it says never or always for "Notify by email every time you receive a personal message" :)
It's always had that option clicked, well for past 2 and a bit years. Checked back like 2-3 weeks ago when I didn't get email notifications and logged on to see 5+ PMs and it was still selected so I'm assuming it's a bug ???.
Something similar happened to me, except it was the option of sending a copy of my sent mail to my outbox. ???
Wondering if had something to do with the layout change.
I get my sent messages saved as well, just incase I need to refer to them later.
It may because of the layout changes, but only started occuring past few weeks but guess it means I'll have to come on more often to check my PMs :).
Quote from: ossie85 on September 11, 2012, 09:29:30 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on September 11, 2012, 09:23:54 AM
question
i know HP hasn't voted but if his votes won't make a difference is it all that important?
Seems unfair for everybody else to express sometimes difficult opinions, plus if he doesn't it gives people incentive to leave voting until the last minute.
yeah fair enough ;)
I have Curran?
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 09:47:17 PM
Mexico trades: Terry Milera, Kyle Reimers and Tom Curran.
New Delhi trades: Brent Harvey and Daniel Merrett.
Reason: Trade needed to be revised, so I added Pick 40 in last years draft, Tom Curran.
Need short term help and Harvey only has a year left but will be good cover if injuries strike. Merrett will also be handy.
Ah, doesnt RB have Tom Curran? :-\
He does? ???
He does. My apologies :P lololololol.
Don't know why I had him on my list.
I'll revise the trade yet again.
lol trying to steal my players ;)
Lucky it wasn't Pendles :o
Mexico trades: Terry Milera, Jarrad Boumann and Kyle Reimers.
New Delhi trades: Brent Harvey and Daniel Merrett.
Reason: need age, Harvey has a year left but will still give me depth for 2013 after he serves his 6 game suspension.
I'm getting Harvey for a maximum of 12 games. Could well be less.
Milera a bit of a jet at 22yr old but worth getting rid of for the short term gain.
Harvey missing the first 6 rounds :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on September 11, 2012, 10:12:30 PM
Harvey missing the first 6 rounds :P
So maybe you losers will finally accept it :P
Trade reached between me and Holz :)
Toronto Trades: Nathan van Berlo + Bootsma + Pick 68
Dublin Trades: Nathan Grima
Reasoning: Holz was looking to get rid of Grima as he is too old for him and he shores up my defence. NVB was just a fringe player for me and while Bootsma looked promising he suits Holz's younger plan while Grima suits mine. The pick is just to even it out even more.
Also forgot to add that Grima is pivotal to my structure as it allows me to swing MJ forward if needed and also provides coverage in case Carrazzo is a mid only next year.
Quote from: roo boys! on September 12, 2012, 08:08:54 AM
Trade reached between me and Holz :)
Toronto Trades: Nathan van Berlo + Bootsma + Pick 68
Dublin Trades: Nathan Grima
Reasoning: Holz was looking to get rid of Grima as he is too old for him and he shores up my defence. NVB was just a fringe player for me and while Bootsma looked promising he suits Holz's younger plan while Grima suits mine. The pick is just to even it out even more.
accepted.
Reason: While grima is a top 15 back he is abit old for my squad, need my backline to be younger to fit in with my other lines. I was playing 65 average players in my utility spot so NVB well be in my starting 15 and i can see him averaging 85. I like bootsma, Carlton took him first pick and he got a few games when he was built like a rake, give him a few preseaons and he will be good, especially with cartons ageing defence.
Seoul Magpies trade Harry O'Brien to the London Royals for Pick 28 and Shannon Byrnes
Reason - Hoping Byrnes can revitalise his career elsewhere and would like a higher draft pick. O'Brien has been serviceable, but I have a surplus of backmen that score similar.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 13, 2012, 09:23:03 AM
Seoul Magpies trade Harry O'Brien to the London Royals for Pick 28 and Shannon Byrnes
Reason - Hoping Byrnes can revitalise his career elsewhere and would like a higher draft pick. O'Brien has been serviceable, but I have a surplus of backmen that score similar.
Accepted
Reaso We need a consistent defender who will play every game and Harry O fits the bill perfectly. Sad to see Byrnes go but just need that defender.
The Moscow Spetsnaz and the Berlin Brewers have made a trade.
Moscow trades Brandon Matera, Thomas Lynch (GC) and picks #33 and #69
Berlin trades picks #3, #30, #76 and Michael Walters
Reason: We wanted a pick inside the top 5, and had a surplus of forwards.
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
The Moscow Spetsnaz and the Berlin Brewers have made a trade.
Moscow trades Brandon Matera, Thomas Lynch (GC) and picks #33 and #69
Berlin trades picks #3, #30, #76 and Michael Walters
Reason: We wanted a pick inside the top 5, and had a surplus of forwards.
Confirmed
Reasoning: I had no plans to use my prized pick 3 for drafting, for I am not patient enough to wait for that draftee to develop, I already have enough young guys. Have always rated the Gold Coast pair, and at many times throughout the year I was struggling for forwards. Although they don't average well, unlike Talia I expect their averages to improve a fair bit within the next year or two, for Lynch maybe 3. Walters would have been nice to keep, but I gain two forwards for the price of one.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 13, 2012, 05:13:03 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 13, 2012, 05:08:32 PM
The Moscow Spetsnaz and the Berlin Brewers have made a trade.
Moscow trades Brandon Matera, Thomas Lynch (GC) and picks #33 and #69
Berlin trades picks #3, #30, #76 and Michael Walters
Reason: We wanted a pick inside the top 5, and had a surplus of forwards.
Confirmed
Reasoning: I had no plans to use my prized pick 3 for drafting, for I am not patient enough to wait for that draftee to develop, I already have enough young guys. Have always rated the Gold Coast pair, and at many times throughout the year I was struggling for forwards. Although they don't average well, unlike Talia I expect their averages to improve a fair bit within the next year or two, for Lynch maybe 3. Walters would have been nice to keep, but I gain two forwards for the price of one.
I might move to Berlin, they have Lynch and Matera ;) :(
New trade between the Sands and the Pumas
Sands give: Chris Masten
Pumas give: Jon Griffin+Pick 42
Reason: I really need a backup ruckman and Griffin is a very good scorer. Also think Sandi is a very good chance of getting injured again and Griffin would get the rucking duties.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 13, 2012, 05:44:03 PM
New trade between the Sands and the Pumas
Sands give: Chris Masten
Pumas give: Jon Griffin+Pick 42
Reason: I really need a backup ruckman and Griffin is a very good scorer. Also think Sandi is a very good chance of getting injured again and Griffin would get the rucking duties.
Confirmed
Reason: Already have Jacobs, Minson and Roughy who can all play ruck so thought I should cash in on Griffin. Masten adds to my group of midfielders ready to step up to the elite level, so hopefully 1 or 2 of them will :)
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
Mexico trades: Terry Milera, Jarrad Boumann and Kyle Reimers.
New Delhi trades: Brent Harvey and Daniel Merrett.
Reason: need age, Harvey has a year left but will still give me depth for 2013 after he serves his 6 game suspension.
I'm getting Harvey for a maximum of 12 games. Could well be less.
Milera a bit of a jet at 22yr old but worth getting rid of for the short term gain.
Bringing this back up cas Fisher couldn't find it :P
Moscow trades: #3
Beijing trades: Dom Tyson
Reason: I wanted a high draft pick and I got it.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 13, 2012, 11:08:06 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 11, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
Mexico trades: Terry Milera, Jarrad Boumann and Kyle Reimers.
New Delhi trades: Brent Harvey and Daniel Merrett.
Reason: need age, Harvey has a year left but will still give me depth for 2013 after he serves his 6 game suspension.
I'm getting Harvey for a maximum of 12 games. Could well be less.
Milera a bit of a jet at 22yr old but worth getting rid of for the short term gain.
Bringing this back up cas Fisher couldn't find it :P
Milera will be a star and I wanted to get him. Reimers and Boumann are really just extras. Milera has job security and will fit nicely in my forward lime
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 14, 2012, 06:34:14 AM
Moscow trades: #3
Beijing trades: Dom Tyson
Reason: I wanted a high draft pick and I got it.
Confirmed.
Reason: I expect this guy to start DOMinating soon and he is as good as anyone I'd get in the draft this year with pick #3.
The Pacific Islanders have come to an agreement with the New York Eagles over the trade of youngster Dion Prestia.
Pacific Islanders give: Dion Prestia and pick 44
New York Eagles give: Ben Cunnington and Claye Beams.
REASON: Being a biased North fan, I had to try and bring in some young North players to the Islanders, while also looking for other talented young players. This deal works perfectly. While Dion Prestia will be a future premium, Ben Cunnington and Claye Beams have shown fantastic talent and will be handy depth for the Islanders.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 14, 2012, 11:52:18 AM
The Pacific Islanders have come to an agreement with the New York Eagles over the trade of youngster Dion Prestia.
Pacific Islanders give: Dion Prestia and pick 44
New York Eagles give: Ben Cunnington and Claye Beams.
REASON: Being a biased North fan, I had to try and bring in some young North players to the Islanders, while also looking for other talented young players. This deal works perfectly. While Dion Prestia will be a future premium, Ben Cunnington and Claye Beams have shown fantastic talent and will be handy depth for the Islanders.
Confirmed.
ReasoiningWe rate Prestia well ahead of Cunnington and offered a fringe mid in Beams for a low pick to push the deal through. Just a matter of improving the best 15.
Brewers and the Eagles have struck a deal
BERLIN TRADES: Will Schofield + Pick 33
NEW YORK TRADES: Stefan Martin + Pick 44
Reasoning: I have Mark Jamar and Jake Spencer already, why not go all the way and get all of the Melbourne ruckman? That is basically why I want Martin, so I won't have to worry about rucks AGAIN. Also, there is a chance Martin will have a forward status next year as well, so fingers crossed! Schofield was very serviceable this year, but he isn't required as I am confident I can play four defenders each week. The draft pick exchange is just an indicator of the difference of the players I suppose
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 14, 2012, 12:54:56 PM
Brewers and the Eagles have struck a deal
BERLIN TRADES: Will Schofield + Pick 33
NEW YORK TRADES: Stefan Martin + Pick 44
Reasoning: I have Mark Jamar and Jake Spencer already, why not go all the way and get all of the Melbourne ruckman? That is basically why I want Martin, so I won't have to worry about rucks AGAIN. Also, there is a chance Martin will have a forward status next year as well, so fingers crossed! Schofield was very serviceable this year, but he isn't required as I am confident I can play four defenders each week. The draft pick exchange is just an indicator of the difference of the players I suppose
Confirmed.
With Cordy coming into the team we didn't really need Martin any more. With Webberley getting delisted there were only 7 defenders on our entire list, so we were in dire need of some defenders that would just...play.
As P77 said, the picks are to make up for the difference in value between the two.
Hi all, been slack, but these were the voting results:
Trade No Votes
1 1
2 0
3 0
4 3
5 2
6 7
7 0
8 0
9 0
10 0
11 1
12 1
13 0
14 1
15 0
16 2
17 3
18 0
19 0
20 1
21 0
22 0
23 2
24 0
25 6
26 0
27 0
Pothead Gives: Rance + Ellis
Pothead Receives: Pick 1 + Schnieder
Holz Gives: Pick 1 + Pick 56 + Pick 74 + Scott.D.Thompson + Schnieder
Holz Recieves: Boak + B.Ellis + Rance
Nails Gives: Boak
Nails Recieves: Scott D Thompson + 56 + 74
Reason: Pick 1 (Whitifeld) Is a big loss i think he will end up the best player in this trade, but with my midfield i have enough young youth and i want to be more competetvie next year. Boak helps achieve that as he will be the better player in the short term and he is still young himself. Thompson is the 16th best defedner and alot of those above are older or will lose dpp, he is very solid but im turning him into rance who is 3 years younger. Schnieder will be a solid 80 next year but im going for youth so him and the picks are worth ellis.
The London Royals have reached agreement on the following 2 trades:
Trade 1: Between London Royals and Pacific Islanders
London give Sam Docherty and Pick 46
London Receive Quinten Lynch
Pacific Islanders give Quinten Lynch
Pacific Isalnders recive Sam Docherty and Pick 46.
Reasoning - We need a couple of forwards who will play all games and Q stick has another 3/4 years in him and will play most games. Docherty may stuggle to get games with Brisbane.
Trade 2 Between London Royals and Sao Paulo Pumas
London give Brad Sheppard and Stephen Hill
London Receive Daniel Hannebery, Zach Tuohy and pick 89
Sao Paulo give Daniel Hannebery, Zach Tuohy and pick 89
Sao Paulo receive Brad Sheppard and Stephen Hill
Reason Hanners 21 year old with huge upside and maybe leadership material in a couple of years. Tuohy is coming to grips ith our game and will be a handy addition to our defence.
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
Trade 2 Between London Royals and Sao Paulo Pumas
London give Brad Sheppard and Stephen Hill
London Receive Daniel Hannebery, Zach Tuohy and pick 89
Sao Paulo give Daniel Hannebery, Zach Tuohy and pick 89
Sao Paulo receive Brad Sheppard and Stephen Hill
Reason Hanners 21 year old with huge upside and maybe leadership material in a couple of years. Tuohy is coming to grips ith our game and will be a handy addition to our defence.
Confirmed :)
Reasons: Wanted to bring in Brad Sheppard as I feel he has a lot of upside as a scoring defender, just needs to break in to the team completely. Didn't want to give up Hannebery, but swapping for Hill isn't too much of a loss as Hill is just 1 year older and averages a little bit less, and still has room for improvement :)
Quote from: Ringo on September 14, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
Trade 1: Between London Royals and Pacific Islanders
London give Sam Docherty and Pick 46
London Receive Quinten Lynch
Pacific Islanders give Quinten Lynch
Pacific Isalnders recive Sam Docherty and Pick 46.
Reasoning - We need a couple of forwards who will play all games and Q stick has another 3/4 years in him and will play most games. Docherty may stuggle to get games with Brisbane.
CONFIRMEDREASON: I must sound like a broken record by now. Lynch didn't fit into the Islanders 2013 youth policy, so we needed to look who we could get for him. The Royals came forward and offered exactly what needed. Whilst Ringo has suggested Docherty may struggle, the Islanders are confident he'll feature sooner rather than later.
Quote from: Holzman on September 14, 2012, 08:55:43 PM
Pothead Gives: Rance + Ellis
Pothead Receives: Pick 1 + Schnieder
Holz Gives: Pick 1 + Pick 56 + Pick 74 + Scott.D.Thompson + Schnieder
Holz Recieves: Boak + B.Ellis + Rance
Nails Gives: Boak
Nails Recieves: Scott D Thompson + 56 + 74
Reason: Pick 1 (Whitifeld) Is a big loss i think he will end up the best player in this trade, but with my midfield i have enough young youth and i want to be more competetvie next year. Boak helps achieve that as he will be the better player in the short term and he is still young himself. Thompson is the 16th best defedner and alot of those above are older or will lose dpp, he is very solid but im turning him into rance who is 3 years younger. Schnieder will be a solid 80 next year but im going for youth so him and the picks are worth ellis.
Was not keen on giving up rance but i really wanted the number 1 draft pick so i gave him up i also needed more depth in my forward line so i think Scneider should average 80 for another couple of years so he will help down forward, i already have alot of young defenders in Shaw, Bugg and Golby so i could afford to lose ellis as part of this trade
Quote from: pothead on September 14, 2012, 09:48:52 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 14, 2012, 08:55:43 PM
Pothead Gives: Rance + Ellis
Pothead Receives: Pick 1 + Schnieder
Holz Gives: Pick 1 + Pick 56 + Pick 74 + Scott.D.Thompson + Schnieder
Holz Recieves: Boak + B.Ellis + Rance
Nails Gives: Boak
Nails Recieves: Scott D Thompson + 56 + 74
Reason: Pick 1 (Whitifeld) Is a big loss i think he will end up the best player in this trade, but with my midfield i have enough young youth and i want to be more competetvie next year. Boak helps achieve that as he will be the better player in the short term and he is still young himself. Thompson is the 16th best defedner and alot of those above are older or will lose dpp, he is very solid but im turning him into rance who is 3 years younger. Schnieder will be a solid 80 next year but im going for youth so him and the picks are worth ellis.
Was not keen on giving up rance but i really wanted the number 1 draft pick so i gave him up i also needed more depth in my forward line so i think Scneider should average 80 for another couple of years so he will help down forward, i already have alot of young defenders in Shaw, Bugg and Golby so i could afford to lose ellis as part of this trade
Confirmed.
Reason: Boak = has potential, but I need another defender so I don't have to play spuds like wojo.
The Toronto Wolves have completed their third trade of this trade window, reaching an agreement with Tokyo while Boomzie was watching Dexter :P
Toronto Gives: Jared Rivers, Ted Richards and pick 53
Tokyo Gives: Liam Shiels and pick 43
Reasoning: While Rivers and Richards did well this year for the Wolves, with at least one if not both in the starting 15 every week, they were not required players anymore after I'd secured Fisher and Grima in the early stages of the trade period. I had excess defenders and needed some more depth in the midfield, especially with older guys like Mitchell and Embley heading out within the next few years. Shiels provides a bit of depth for now but is more than capable of filling a starting slot and has huge potential. Also provided me with an opportunity to upgrade my pick slightly.
Quote from: roo boys! on September 15, 2012, 10:23:20 AM
The Toronto Wolves have completed their third trade of this trade window, reaching an agreement with Tokyo while Boomzie was watching Dexter :P
Toronto Gives: Jared Rivers, Ted Richards and pick 53
Tokyo Gives: Liam Shiels and pick 43
Reasoning: While Rivers and Richards did well this year for the Wolves, with at least one if not both in the starting 15 every week, they were not required players anymore after I'd secured Fisher and Grima in the early stages of the trade period. I had excess defenders and needed some more depth in the midfield, especially with older guys like Mitchell and Embley heading out within the next few years. Shiels provides a bit of depth for now but is more than capable of filling a starting slot and has huge potential. Also provided me with an opportunity to upgrade my pick slightly.
Confirmed
Needed more defenders & Shiels is playing a role that isn't great for fantasy.
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
ANOTHER DEFENDER AND MURDOCH. THAT IS WHAT I NEED. THAT IS WHAT I GOT. ENRIGHT ENLEFT ENMINE.
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:01:05 PM
ANOTHER DEFENDER AND MURDOCH. THAT IS WHAT I NEED. THAT IS WHAT I GOT. ENRIGHT ENLEFT ENMINE.
^ It's been like this all morning on FFChat. ::) We suspect Boomz maybe on drugs and therefore we ask the WXVHQ to look at possible sanctions as this competition does not condone this sort of behaviour. :P
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Is it just me or does everyone need defenders all of the sudden?
Where are they all hiding then?? ???
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Is it just me or does everyone need defenders all of the sudden?
Where are they all hiding then?? ???
I've got 16...
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 15, 2012, 01:48:52 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Is it just me or does everyone need defenders all of the sudden?
Where are they all hiding then?? ???
I've got 16...
:o
We need to talk.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 15, 2012, 01:48:52 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Is it just me or does everyone need defenders all of the sudden?
Where are they all hiding then?? ???
I've got 16...
:o
We need to talk.
I've got 17 on my list s well A lot of youngsters though.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:54:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 15, 2012, 01:48:52 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 01:02:21 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 15, 2012, 12:52:14 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 15, 2012, 11:59:24 AM
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright, Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: pick 14
Enright is gettin old so I wanted him out, pick 14 is a good pick and now I have 4 top 30 picks
This is confirmed btw. FS now is trying to back out.
Need DEFENDERS
Is it just me or does everyone need defenders all of the sudden?
Where are they all hiding then?? ???
I've got 16...
:o
We need to talk.
Feel free to send me a PM. The majority I'm not willing to trade though ;)
New trade between Cairo and New Delhi
Cairo trades: Sharrod Wellingham
New Delhi trades: Jarryn Geary+Picks 63, 81
Reason: Needed one more youngish defender to finish off my defence, that I feel can improve his average to around 80 and trading away mids means that I don't have to worry about not drafting a midfielder in the national draft.
Honestly people, shop around!
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 15, 2012, 02:13:28 PM
New trade between Cairo and New Delhi
Cairo trades: Sharrod Wellingham
New Delhi trades: Jarryn Geary+Picks 63, 81
Reason: Needed one more youngish defender to finish off my defence, that I feel can improve his average to around 80 and trading away mids means that I don't have to worry about not drafting a midfielder in the national draft.
Confirmed, now I have a good midfield and Geary wasn't part of my structure
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 15, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 15, 2012, 02:14:41 PM
Honestly people, shop around!
Nup. I don't wanna. :P
Ask and you shall recieve. :)
Don't ask and you miss out. ;)
Yeah, but a lot of trades lately involving players I've asked about - some which I'm certain I offered better deals - but oh well lol
Quote from: ossie85 on September 15, 2012, 03:33:36 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 15, 2012, 02:58:51 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 15, 2012, 02:16:27 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 15, 2012, 02:14:41 PM
Honestly people, shop around!
Nup. I don't wanna. :P
Ask and you shall recieve. :)
Don't ask and you miss out. ;)
Yeah, but a lot of trades lately involving players I've asked about - some which I'm certain I offered better deals - but oh well lol
Happened to most people at least once so far I reckon.
Not meaning to be picky, but trade 27 and 28 on the front page are the same
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 15, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
Not meaning to be picky, but trade 27 and 28 on the front page are the same
Sorry, don't understand?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 02, 2012, 08:49:15 PM
Trade 27 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Pick 8 and Josh Hill
London gives: Luke Breust
Trade 28 (Confirmed)
Cairo gives: Pick 8 & Josh Hill
London gives: Luke Breust
Same trade listed twice. :)
Ah! Whoops, I read 'trade' as 'pick' will fix
Just to confirm, the second week of trading closes at midnight tonight?
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 16, 2012, 10:00:38 AM
Just to confirm, the second week of trading closes at midnight tonight?
Yup :)
I need ruckmen. PM me and I will see what I can do.
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: Petrenko and Ben Jacobs
Cairo Sands Give: Drew Petrie and NAT Draft Pick 51
reasoning: The Armadillos lack machines in their forward line and have had a rethink since their rejected trade. We have decided our time is now, therefore we are willing to give away future guns for a player who is a gun now.
Quote from: Nails on September 16, 2012, 11:04:17 PM
Buenos Aires Armadillos Give: Petrenko and Ben Jacobs
Cairo Sands Give: Drew Petrie and NAT Draft Pick 51
reasoning: The Armadillos lack machines in their forward line and have had a rethink since their rejected trade. We have decided our time is now, therefore we are willing to give away future guns for a player who is a gun now.
Confirmed. Getting in some young guns after recently trading in some older players. Petrie is getting older and not sure he can keep up a 90+ average for too much longer.
QUICK
TRADE ME A RUCK WHO'LL PLAY 16+ GAMES
I'M DESPERATE AS flower.
It has been a long...... long..... and again long time coming. Months since the first inquiry, but A DEAL HAS BEEN MADE! I feel like crying! lol
Berlin trades: Jeremy Howe, Sam Darley, Pick 10 and Pick 38
Pacific trades: Pick 45, Pick 60 and................. David Swallow!
Reasoning: I had a horrible midfield this year, and my major aim this trade period was to snare a couple of young guns. Obviously, David Swallow fits the bill and along with the acquisition of Jack Steven, it's all coming together. Jeremy Howe..... is a huge loss. But due to my recent acquired forwards, I could afford losing him.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 17, 2012, 12:48:57 PM
It has been a long...... long..... and again long time coming. Months since the first inquiry, but A DEAL HAS BEEN MADE! I feel like crying! lol
Berlin trades: Jeremy Howe, Sam Darley, Pick 10 and Pick 38
Pacific trades: Pick 45, Pick 60 and................. David Swallow!
Reasoning: I had a horrible midfield this year, and my major aim this trade period was to snare a couple of young guns. Obviously, David Swallow fits the bill and along with the acquisition of Jack Steven, it's all coming together. Jeremy Howe..... is a huge loss. But due to my recent acquired forwards, I could afford losing him.
This was the first trade negotiatation I had. After weeks of struggling, tweaking and compromising this is finally CONFIRMED.
Like P77 my defence and forward line struggled last year and I needed to find a way to bolster them.
David Swallow was touted as the most promising youngster the AFL had seen since the Superdraft. So far, its not hard to see that he is well on his way to becoming a super premium midfielder. Which is why it was so hard to let him go. Nonetheless, in return we gain a promising forward and developing defender along with picks. This deal works perfectly for both teams.
So how many people have voted so far this week? :)
It's been a long time coming, but the Pacific Islanders playing list has finally been updated. ::)
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44821.msg892566.html#msg892566
We are looking for a talented defender along with some young depth players.
Moscow have a supreme list at the moment, but there is still a chance to grab someone out of our reserves team if the offer is good enough.
Current reserves team:
B: Jordan Russell, Brodie Smith (don't bother), Steven Morris, Marty Clarke
C: Alex Sexton, Justin Sherman, Sam Kerridge, Paul Seedsman
R: Jordan Roughead
F: Michael Walters, Tory Dickson, Steven May, Ben Sinclair
I: Jason Blake, Tom Williams
E: Jackson Allen, Nathan Wilson, Mitch Brown, Tom Young, Richard Tambling, Caolan Mooney, #21, #30
Look, might as well test the waters out. Can't hurt.
Darren Jolly and Cameron Wood are available.
Would be looking for a playing ruckman in return.
PM me offers.
Again waiting on one coach who shall remain nameless! But only the ONE trade failed, and will release full details and reasons later on in the week.
That was Trade 40 (Enright + Murdoch for Pick 14) which fell through
Hooray they passed :)
I remember meow talking about all his players in relation to what they were taken in the draft, I can't find it now, but an interesting note about my squad. It contains 13 players taken in the first round of their draft, 9 of which were taken in the top 10 :D
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:42:06 AM
Hooray they passed :)
I remember meow talking about all his players in relation to what they were taken in the draft, I can't find it now, but an interesting note about my squad. It contains 13 players taken in the first round of their draft, 9 of which were taken in the top 10 :D
Some of the greatest players are found outside the top 10. ;)
James Hird, Dane Swan, Chris Grant, Daniel Cross, Cameron Mooney, Daniel Bradshaw, Simon Black, Ryan Hargrave, Sam Fisher, Ryan O'Keefe, Brent Harvey, Adam Goodes, Heath Scotland, Sam Mitchell, Leigh Montagna, Luke Ball.
All of them
third round or later. :P
Haha yes I know, but it's still nice to have plenty of top 10 players because they are meant to have potential ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 12:10:42 PM
Haha yes I know, but it's still nice to have plenty of top 10 players because they are meant to have potential ;)
lol
I just took a look at my list and
over half of my team were NOT drafted in the national draft. :o :o
They were either drafted in the rookie draft, pre-season draft or were pre-listed, zone drafted, or received a scholarship.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:42:06 AM
Hooray they passed :)
I remember meow talking about all his players in relation to what they were taken in the draft, I can't find it now, but an interesting note about my squad. It contains 13 players taken in the first round of their draft, 9 of which were taken in the top 10 :D
I hope the potential finally kicks in with my team. My starting 4 forwards Clark (9), Hurley (5) Hansen (3) Day (3) better come good soon also have Tomlinson (9) on the bench along with first rounders Elton and Lamb.
Also have Boak (5) and Daisy (2).
Most of my team is early draft picks (inside the top 30) and we saw how much that helped me this year.
Couldn't tell you mine cas they are all from old drafts :P 2000-2005.
Goddard (#1), Bartel (#8), Hodge (#1), McLean (#5), Riewoldt (#2), Didak (#3).
Well these are my first round picks...
2011 Draft
Buntine (#5)
Sumner (#10)
Adams (#13)
Smith (#14)
2010 Draft
Polec (#5)
Tape (#13)
2009 Draft
Sheppard (#7)
2008 Draft
Hill (#3)
Hartlett (#4)
2007 Draft
Masten (#3)
2004 Draft
Roughead (#2)
2003 Draft
Walker (#2)
Waters (#11)
What I want to know is how Sandilands, Goodes, Lecras, Chapman and Mullet all escaped the Top 30 of their respective drafts.
What I want to know is how the hell did Tambling slip to number 4?
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
What I want to know is how the hell did Tambling slip to number 4?
Unbelievable! And they said Buddy was a steal at #5!
Edit: Buddy is a jet.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2012, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
What I want to know is how the hell did Tambling slip to number 4?
Unbelievable! And they said Buddy was a steal at #6!
The Hawks would have been even more thrilled to get him with #5 then!
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2012, 06:22:19 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2012, 06:19:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 18, 2012, 06:17:17 PM
What I want to know is how the hell did Tambling slip to number 4?
Unbelievable! And they said Buddy was a steal at #5!
The Hawks would have been even more thrilled to get him with #5 then!
What? ???
Lids > rough > grif > tamb > bud ;)
My first round picks ;)
2011 draft
#7 - Nick Haynes
2010 draft
#15 - Billie Smedts
2009 draft
#6 - Gary Rohan
#16 - Jasper Pittard
2008 draft
Nobody good was drafted anway :P
2007 draft
#2 - Trent Cotchin
2006 draft
#7 - Joel Selwood
2004 draft
#15 - Lynden Dunn
2003 draft
#1 - Adam Cooney
#3 - Colin Sylvia
Pacific Islanders have finally reached a deal with the Mexico City Suns over veterans Simon Black and Daniel Kerr.
Pacific Islanders give: Simon Black + Daniel Kerr + 46
Mexico City Suns give: Ben Howlett.
REASON: Strict youth policy. Surely you've all worked that out by now. ::)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 18, 2012, 09:51:19 PM
Pacific Islanders have finally reached a deal with the Mexico City Suns over veterans Simon Black and Daniel Kerr.
Pacific Islanders give: Simon Black + Daniel Kerr + 46
Mexico City Suns give: Ben Howlett.
REASON: Strict youth policy. Surely you've all worked that out by now. ::)
Confirmed: These guys will help me out short term, sad to see Ben Howlett leave but best move for my strategy.
Just wondering maca are you going to quit the game once all your players retire and leave it for some other guy to pick up the pieces?
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 10:55:45 PM
Just wondering maca are you going to quit the game once all your players retire and leave it for some other guy to pick up the pieces?
Nope. I'll enjoy rebuilding :) I fail to see how Ill fall to pieces?
My 2016 Team (Excluding Draft Picks and Trading)
B: Goddard, Gilbert, Ibbotson, Hardingham. (Strauss, Addison, Baguley)
M: Ebert, McLean, Foley, D.Pearce. (J.Van Berlo)
R: I.Maric (J.Sellar, R.Bathie)
F: Lecras, Lewis, Pfieffer, Mellington.
Not that bad considering Ill be stocked up on Draft Picks plus Ill go full rebuild and trade everyone.
Ok it's just that a while back (before the first season started) you said you weren't planning on sticking round all that long...
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Ok it's just that a while back (before the first season started) you said you weren't planning on sticking round all that long...
Yeah I remember saying that, I had a lot on my plate at that time. Currently speaking I should be able to carry this team for another 5 seasons at least :)
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Ok it's just that a while back (before the first season started) you said you weren't planning on sticking round all that long...
Yeah I remember saying that, I had a lot on my plate at that time. Currently speaking I should be able to carry this team for another 5 seasons at least :)
Alrighty then :)
As of Jan 1 2013 the average age of my entire current squad will be 22.20, should get a little younger when I delist some people and bring in new draftees too.
Also the average age of my strongest 15 (going from this 2012 averages) is 23.73. This team would have averaged 1,556.9 per game this year so watch out :P
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Ok it's just that a while back (before the first season started) you said you weren't planning on sticking round all that long...
Yeah I remember saying that, I had a lot on my plate at that time. Currently speaking I should be able to carry this team for another 5 seasons at least :)
If things changed that dramatically in 1 year, how can you know things won't change even more in the next 5? :o
All good. It will be interesting to see because your team will probably be the first to do a 'full' rebuild.
Quote from: Sid on September 18, 2012, 11:28:37 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 18, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 18, 2012, 11:08:33 PM
Ok it's just that a while back (before the first season started) you said you weren't planning on sticking round all that long...
Yeah I remember saying that, I had a lot on my plate at that time. Currently speaking I should be able to carry this team for another 5 seasons at least :)
If things changed that dramatically in 1 year, how can you know things won't change even more in the next 5? :o
All good. It will be interesting to see because your team will probably be the first to do a 'full' rebuild.
I can't guarantee anything, as I'm sure you can't either. After all it is real life :)
Yeah I'll enjoy the process when it comes.
Dublin Receive: Josh Green
Berlin Receive: Lachie Neale, Pick 68, Rookie 37.
Reason: I rate Green above neale he is one year more developed than neale and im lacking depth so may need to use him next year. I have my plans for Rookie 1 and 19 so dont need that rookie. Pick 68 is abit of a loss but its worth it in my opinion.
Quote from: Holzman on September 19, 2012, 06:19:16 PM
Dublin Receive: Josh Green
Berlin Receive: Lachie Neale, Pick 68, Rookie 37.
Reason: I rate Green above neale he is one year more developed than neale and im lacking depth so may need to use him next year. I have my plans for Rookie 1 and 19 so dont need that rookie. Pick 68 is abit of a loss but its worth it in my opinion.
Confirmed
Although I am losing a potential M/F, Neale looks the goods without a green vest. The other picks just make up the difference at with them, I could get two semi-decent players. Might even take a risk with them
Trade blocked details, sorry for the delay....
Trade 40
New Delhi gives: Corey Enright & Jordan Murdoch
Tokyo gives: Pick 14
Voted against: 7 (c4v3m4n, FisherSaints, Maca24, My Chumps, Nails, ossie85, Ringo)
Reasons:
- Enright although he is old, is an elite defender.
- Murdoch is promising player also
- Some think pick 14 for Murdoch only would be fair.
Other results:
Trade No votes
28 5
29 0
30 0
31 0
32 0
33 0
34 0
35 0
36 2
37 1
38 0
39 0
40 7
41 0
42 1
43 1
Noting that TWO coaches voted against there own trades this week :/
wow Maca's trade nearly didn't go through again! :P
Since when is Murdoch a defender :-X
Quote from: Boomz on September 20, 2012, 10:20:54 AM
Since when is Murdoch a defender :-X
My bad, should have said 'player' type error on my part
With just under 3 months until drafting gets underway the Pumas have decided they will no be chasing any more trades in the near future as they are happy with their list. They will still be open to receiving offers, but will not be actively chasing any trades...
Mexico Give: Pick 18
New Delhi Give: Corey Enright
Reason: I need a defender for 1-2 years. Pick 18 is good, but it has not a lot of short term potential for me.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 05:19:18 PM
Mexico Give: Pick 18
New Delhi Give: Corey Enright
Reason: I need a defender for 1-2 years. Pick 18 is good, but it has not a lot of short term potential for me.
Confirmed, this draft has depth so pick 18 is a very good pick. Enright is old
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
I didnt vote against my own?
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
I didnt vote against my own?
Oh shower, my bad :-[
Why did Fish vote against his own trade? :p
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
I didnt vote against my own?
Oh shower, my bad :-[
Why did Fish vote against his own trade? :p
All good :P
He changed his mind I think...
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
I didnt vote against my own?
Oh shower, my bad :-[
Why did Fish vote against his own trade? :p
All good :P
He changed his mind I think...
Yeah, he must have :-X
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 11:28:27 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:58:31 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:52:54 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 20, 2012, 10:36:35 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 20, 2012, 10:18:45 PM
Lol, why did FS and Maca vote against their own trades? ???
I didnt vote against my own?
Oh shower, my bad :-[
Why did Fish vote against his own trade? :p
All good :P
He changed his mind I think...
Yeah, he must have :-X
It was evident he was getting ripped off... Enright for Pick 14 was fine, but Murdoch is a future star :o
In late breaking news, the Pacific Islanders have secured the services of Billy Longer.
After long and tense negotiations, a deal was finally reached early this morning.
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 5 + Sam Docherty
Dublin Destroyers give: Billy Longer + Adam Tomlinson
REASON: With rumors that Darren Jolly and Cameron Wood may be heading elsewhere, I needed to find a new ruckman. While Longer is still a while away from being the number one ruckman, he's a great asset to have nonetheless and will be part of this club for years to come. :)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 21, 2012, 01:45:40 AM
In late breaking news, the Pacific Islanders have secured the services of Billy Longer.
After long and tense negotiations, a deal was finally reached early this morning.
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 5 + Sam Docherty
Dublin Destroyers give: Billy Longer + Adam Tomlinson
REASON: With rumors that Darren Jolly and Cameron Wood may be heading elsewhere, I needed to find a new ruckman. While Longer is still a while away from being the number one ruckman, he's a great asset to have nonetheless and will be part of this club for years to come. :)
Accept.
Reason: While the potential in longer is huge, with Goldy and Clarke I just don't need him in my squad. Tomlinson and Docherty we both rated very similar but i felt i needed the backs slightly more. I have a plan for pick 5 and im almsot postive i can get 1 of 2 players who will play up front and hopefully be my F5
The massive trading week at the Islanders continues with a trade being reached with the New Dehli Tigers over the services of utility Lewis Roberts-Thomson and the exchanging of draft picks.
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 10 + Lewis Roberts-Thomson
New Dehli Tigers give: Pick 7
Reason: After the loss of pick 5, I needed to find a suitable top 8 draft pick replacement and this pick upgrade gets me there. :)
Matthew Leuenberger is off to Toronto!
Tokyo give: Leuenberger, Pick 61 & Pick 14
Toronto give: Mitchell, Pick 13 & Pick 43
Reasoning: Mitchell gives me another premium mid. Pick upgrades evens it up as Mitchell is 30 & a mid compared to Luey being a 24yo premium ruckman and they are hard to come by.
And with that trade done I am looking for a ruckman. Picks 13, 25 & 43 on the table. Not trading players.
Quote from: Boomz on September 21, 2012, 11:12:10 AM
Matthew Leuenberger is off to Toronto!
Tokyo give: Leuenberger, Pick 61 & Pick 14
Toronto give: Mitchell, Pick 13 & Pick 43
Reasoning: Mitchell gives me another premium mid. Pick upgrades evens it up as Mitchell is 30 & a mid compared to Luey being a 24yo premium ruckman and they are hard to come by.
Confirmed
Reasoning: While it's sad to see VC Mitchell go, it's for the greater good. Can't say too much about this trade without revealing details of a future trade but all I can say is, I doubt Leuey will be staying in Toronto for long.
Looking to trade #3 for a gun midfielder.
Also looking to trade Clancee Pearce for a first round pick.
Geez Boomz, risky!
You have Hampson, Phillips and Campbell as your ruck now! Can't believe you traded out Luey! Only 24...
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 21, 2012, 10:23:47 AM
The massive trading week at the Islanders continues with a trade being reached with the New Dehli Tigers over the services of utility Lewis Roberts-Thomson and the exchanging of draft picks.
Pacific Islanders give: Pick 10 + Lewis Roberts-Thomson
New Dehli Tigers give: Pick 7
Reason: After the loss of pick 5, I needed to find a suitable top 8 draft pick replacement and this pick upgrade gets me there. :)
Confirmed, I only lose three picks in the order but get LRT who has shown potential in the qualifying final also may get DPP
New trade between Cairo and Beijing.
Cairo gives: Matt Rosa
Beijing gives: Shaun Grigg
Reason: I believe that the Tigers are gonna improve and that means that I'm hoping Grigg also improves.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 21, 2012, 07:43:51 PM
New trade between Cairo and Beijing.
Cairo gives: Matt Rosa
Beijing gives: Shaun Grigg
Reason: I believe that the Tigers are gonna improve and that means that I'm hoping Grigg also improves.
Confirmed.
Reason: Grigg is par with Rosa but I like Rosa more.
Huge trade has been reached between BB and myself :D
Toronto gives: Liam Shiels, Pick 14 and Pre-Season Draft 2nd pick (32)
Beijing gives: Andrew Swallow
Reasoning: SPITTA IS MINE!!! >:D >:D I've wanted him from the very second this competition started and with BB wanting a rebuild I saw my chance. Shiels wasn't at Toronto for long and we were excited about his future but it suits our strategies well with Beijing wanting draft picks and young players.
Quote from: roo boys! on September 21, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
Huge trade has been reached between BB and myself :D
Toronto gives: Liam Shiels, Pick 14 and Pre-Season Draft 2nd pick (32)
Beijing gives: Andrew Swallow
Reasoning: SPITTA IS MINE!!! >:D >:D I've wanted him from the very second this competition started and with BB wanting a rebuild I saw my chance. Shiels wasn't at Toronto for long and we were excited about his future but it suits our strategies well with Beijing wanting draft picks and young players.
Confirmed.
Reason: want to build a bank of picks this year. Plus shiels is good. Threw in the preseason pick for insurance.
Wow, massive trade.
Replaced Mitchell with Swallow, and gained Luey.
Been a great trade period for you thus far RB.
Swallow is a beast, one of my favourites.
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2012, 11:45:20 PM
Wow, massive trade.
Replaced Mitchell with Swallow, and gained Luey.
Been a great trade period for you thus far RB.
Swallow is a beast, one of my favourites.
has lost Mitch Clark though. But great pick-ups RB.
Quote from: Holzman on September 21, 2012, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2012, 11:45:20 PM
Wow, massive trade.
Replaced Mitchell with Swallow, and gained Luey.
Been a great trade period for you thus far RB.
Swallow is a beast, one of my favourites.
has lost Mitch Clark though. But great pick-ups RB.
Stop me if I'm wrong, but didn't BB have Clark?
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2012, 11:47:48 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 21, 2012, 11:46:14 PM
Quote from: My Chumps on September 21, 2012, 11:45:20 PM
Wow, massive trade.
Replaced Mitchell with Swallow, and gained Luey.
Been a great trade period for you thus far RB.
Swallow is a beast, one of my favourites.
has lost Mitch Clark though. But great pick-ups RB.
Stop me if I'm wrong, but didn't BB have Clark?
I wont stop you becasue you are correct. RB BB very close. Fantastic trading than
Thanks guys, but it's not over yet >:D
Guess who? :o
The Islanders trading roadshow continues. This time, its over the services of promising ruckman Matthew Leuenberger.
Pacific Islanders give: Darren Jolly + Ben Cunnington + Levi Greenwood + Picks 39 + 71.
Toronto Wolves give: Matthew Leuenberger.
REASON: The Islanders needed to secure the services of a full-time playing ruckman since Jolly is in his final years. Berger fits the bill perfectly. :)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 22, 2012, 11:28:37 AM
Pacific Islanders give: Darren Jolly + Ben Cunnington + Levi Greenwood + Picks 39 + 71.
Toronto Wolves give: Matthew Leuenberger.
REASON: The Islanders needed to secure the services of a full-time playing ruckman since Jolly is in his final years. Berger fits the bill perfectly. :)
Confirmed
Reasoning: I've wanted one of Basti or Cunners for a LONG time now (almost as long as Swallow ;)) as I believe he is one of the best young players in the comp and truly believe he'll ave close to 90 next season, and even more after that. I said that Leuey wouldn't be staying long, he's not really required with Ryder, Hale, Hudson and Hickey. All I hope is that Jolly can stick around for at least another year or two until Hickey can develop into a starting ruckman. Jolly is important as he allows me to play Ryder and Hale forward (assuming they get R/F :-X). Greenwood was the thing that took this trade so long to get finalised, but the picks made me settle for him :P Hopefully he can get some more game time next season.
Kangaroo Bias! :P
Quote from: Maca24 on September 22, 2012, 12:29:20 PM
Kangaroo Bias! :P
haha No shower :P
Grima, Pedersen, Swallow, Ziebell, Cunnington, MacMillan, Greenwood, Speight, Edwards, Wright, Harper, Curran 8)
12 out of 46 players :P
Wow rb just gained like 5 new players for losing one :o
Quote from: whatlez on September 22, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
Wow rb just gained like 5 new players for losing one :o
that 1 player is pretty good though
Quote from: Holzman on September 22, 2012, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: whatlez on September 22, 2012, 03:23:49 PM
Wow rb just gained like 5 new players for losing one :o
that 1 player is pretty good though
Yeah, pretty even trade IMO.
Leuy is a star.
Yeah happy with my trades so far.
I know Leuey is a gun but not really needed at the Wolves IMO, especially with Jolly.
Basically I've traded out Richards, Rivers (used those to get Shiels) and Mitchell for Swallow, Cunnington, Jolly and Greenwood.
New Trade announced
London gives pick 22
Moscow gives Steven Morris
Rationale; Opportunity to obtain another back who has good JS and well worth the equivalent of pick 22/
Quote from: Ringo on September 22, 2012, 05:16:45 PM
New Trade announced
London gives pick 22
Moscow gives Steven Morris
Rationale; Opportunity to obtain another back who has good JS and well worth the equivalent of pick 22/
Confimed. I have too many backmen. I now have a chance to draft a reasonable player to fill a hole on of the other lines.
Seoul Magpies Trade picks 28, 29 and Preseason draft pick 3 for Beijing's Clancee Pearce
Pearce's position for next year is unknown, but whether it is in defense, forward line or midfield will be a valuable pick up for the Maggies
Quote from: ossie85 on September 22, 2012, 06:34:33 PM
Seoul Magpies Trade picks 28, 29 and Preseason draft pick 3 for Beijing's Clancee Pearce
Pearce's position for next year is unknown, but whether it is in defense, forward line or midfield will be a valuable pick up for the Maggies
Confirmed.
I wanted some draft picks and I got them.
Mexico Trade: Nathan Foley and Pick 37
Wellington Trade: Scott Thompson
Reason: Foley averages 100 and is 27, Thompson 110 and is 30. Thompson is slightly more valuable so 37 evens this trade up. Need a higher scorer as my depth is fine. So will be a nice increase on the field. Pick 37 doesn't hold much value to me due to my short term needs.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 22, 2012, 10:24:04 PM
Mexico Trade: Nathan Foley and Pick 37
Wellington Trade: Scott Thompson
Reason: Foley averages 100 and is 27, Thompson 110 and is 30. Thompson is slightly more valuable so 37 evens this trade up. Need a higher scorer as my depth is fine. So will be a nice increase on the field. Pick 37 doesn't hold much value to me due to my short term needs.
confirmed, thompson getting old, foley is a few years younger but still averages well and wanted another pick
Wellington trade: Sam Butler to toronto for Rohan Bewick
Reason: Butler wasnt getting much of a game at the warriors and i can see him developing into a good young player so he will give me some depth
Quote from: pothead on September 22, 2012, 11:18:33 PM
Wellington trade: Sam Butler to toronto for Rohan Bewick
Reason: Butler wasnt getting much of a game at the warriors and i can see him developing into a good young player so he will give me some depth
Confirmed
Reasoning: I have too many depth midfielders and not enough defenders, pot had signalled interest in this trade a while ago and I didn't need it, but after trading out Richards and Rivers and getting Cunners and Greenwood I thought it best to get another defender while I could.
After a metric showerton of negotiations
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnson with a T (Lewis Johnston)
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, Hogan, Crozier
Reasoning
Needed somebody to replace Saad at F4 and Bennell does that. I rate Hogan really highly and have been chasing him since the start of the trade period.
Crozier is forward depth for now, I expect him to play more in 2013 and really love the way he goes about it. Was one of my favourites in juniors so hopefully he goes on with it. Exceptional aerial abilities.
Vince, Rischa and Seahorse are all top players but they don't fit our youth policy so better off with guys like Bennell and Hogan. Unfortunate that we lost Basti and Johnston but have to give some to get some.
Pick 33...well we've taken the stance from the start that we don't rate picks, so that was just to push this over the line.
:o Big trade. Bennell and Basti future stars, the others are decent :P
Crozier! I like that kid. :)
Is it just me or is this another MASSIVE week of trades? Perhaps the biggest so far? :o :o
Quote from: Sid on September 23, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
After a metric showerton of negotiations
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnson with a T (Lewis Johnston)
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, Hogan, Crozier
Reasoning
Needed somebody to replace Saad at F4 and Bennell does that. I rate Hogan really highly and have been chasing him since the start of the trade period.
Crozier is forward depth for now, I expect him to play more in 2013 and really love the way he goes about it. Was one of my favourites in juniors so hopefully he goes on with it. Exceptional aerial abilities.
Vince, Rischa and Seahorse are all top players but they don't fit our youth policy so better off with guys like Bennell and Hogan. Unfortunate that we lost Basti and Johnston but have to give some to get some.
Pick 33...well we've taken the stance from the start that we don't rate picks, so that was just to push this over the line.
Confirmed. This was just too good an offer to refuse for the Sands. Although Bennell will be an absolute star, the guys we have got in return will be able to fill the void he is leaving and it also provide me with some more depth that I was lacking after trading away quite a few of my mids.
The Brewers and Suns have struck a deal
BERLIN TRADES: Chris Knights
MEXICO CITY TRADES: James Sellar
Reasoning:
Was looking to get all the Melb ruckman, and in the 50/50 chance Sellar doesn't get Ruck status, he will be a handy back-up defender. Although Knights looks like he will improve his average at another club, it is likely he would not make my starting mids, perhaps forwards, but overall he wasnt needed
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 23, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
The Brewers and Suns have struck a deal
BERLIN TRADES: Chris Knights
MEXICO CITY TRADES: James Sellar
Reasoning:
Was looking to get all the Melb ruckman, and in the 50/50 chance Sellar doesn't get Ruck status, he will be a handy back-up defender. Although Knights looks like he will improve his average at another club, it is likely he would not make my starting mids, perhaps forwards, but overall he wasnt needed
Confirmed: I like Sellar as my 3rd ruck, but I also like Knights and I am happy to increase my forward depth.
This is necessary for me due to my old forward line constantly battling injuries. :)
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 23, 2012, 03:11:05 PM
The Brewers and Suns have struck a deal
BERLIN TRADES: Chris Knights
MEXICO CITY TRADES: James Sellar
Reasoning:
Was looking to get all the Melb ruckman, and in the 50/50 chance Sellar doesn't get Ruck status, he will be a handy back-up defender. Although Knights looks like he will improve his average at another club, it is likely he would not make my starting mids, perhaps forwards, but overall he wasnt needed
Noooooooooo, knights gone
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 23, 2012, 12:45:08 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 23, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
After a metric showerton of negotiations
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnson with a T (Lewis Johnston)
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, Hogan, Crozier
Reasoning
Needed somebody to replace Saad at F4 and Bennell does that. I rate Hogan really highly and have been chasing him since the start of the trade period.
Crozier is forward depth for now, I expect him to play more in 2013 and really love the way he goes about it. Was one of my favourites in juniors so hopefully he goes on with it. Exceptional aerial abilities.
Vince, Rischa and Seahorse are all top players but they don't fit our youth policy so better off with guys like Bennell and Hogan. Unfortunate that we lost Basti and Johnston but have to give some to get some.
Pick 33...well we've taken the stance from the start that we don't rate picks, so that was just to push this over the line.
Confirmed. This was just too good an offer to refuse for the Sands. Although Bennell will be an absolute star, the guys we have got in return will be able to fill the void he is leaving and it also provide me with some more depth that I was lacking after trading away quite a few of my mids.
Hogan retired today.. Makes that trade amazing for ML haha
Quote from: Sid on September 23, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
After a metric showerton of negotiations
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnson with a T (Lewis Johnston)
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, Hogan, Crozier
Reasoning
Needed somebody to replace Saad at F4 and Bennell does that. I rate Hogan really highly and have been chasing him since the start of the trade period.
Crozier is forward depth for now, I expect him to play more in 2013 and really love the way he goes about it. Was one of my favourites in juniors so hopefully he goes on with it. Exceptional aerial abilities.
Vince, Rischa and Seahorse are all top players but they don't fit our youth policy so better off with guys like Bennell and Hogan. Unfortunate that we lost Basti and Johnston but have to give some to get some.
Pick 33...well we've taken the stance from the start that we don't rate picks, so that was just to push this over the line.
CANCELLEDBecause Hogan retired. :-\
New trade:
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnston
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, K. Stevens, Crozier
Reasoning is pretty much the same, just subbing Stevens in for Hogan. :)
Quote from: Sid on September 23, 2012, 03:49:49 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 23, 2012, 12:28:41 AM
After a metric showerton of negotiations
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnson with a T (Lewis Johnston)
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, Hogan, Crozier
Reasoning
Needed somebody to replace Saad at F4 and Bennell does that. I rate Hogan really highly and have been chasing him since the start of the trade period.
Crozier is forward depth for now, I expect him to play more in 2013 and really love the way he goes about it. Was one of my favourites in juniors so hopefully he goes on with it. Exceptional aerial abilities.
Vince, Rischa and Seahorse are all top players but they don't fit our youth policy so better off with guys like Bennell and Hogan. Unfortunate that we lost Basti and Johnston but have to give some to get some.
Pick 33...well we've taken the stance from the start that we don't rate picks, so that was just to push this over the line.
CANCELLED
Because Hogan retired. :-\
New trade:
NYR Trades:
33, Bastinac, Vince, Rischitelli, Horsley, Johnston
Cairo Trades:
Bennell, K. Stevens, Crozier
Reasoning is pretty much the same, just subbing Stevens in for Hogan. :)
Confirm cancelling.
Confirm trade. Also same reason as before.
Another trade for the Brewers
BERLIN TRADES: Mark Seaby
LONDON TRADES: Pick 64
Reasoning: Seaby is not a required a player, and he is getting on. Although good scorer when he plays, I have some doubts about Job Security. Pick 64 would hopefully get me someone of at least the same quality
Confirmed:
Even though JS may be doubtful will be handy acquisition as Ruck for Royals. Pick 64 considered reasonable for this player
2nd trade of the off season for the Reindeers
Armadillos give: Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Robert Warnock, Justin Westhoff, Daniel Nicholson and Nat pick 34
Armadillos receive: Matthew Pavlich, Steve Johnson, Adam Selwood and Pick 59
Reindeers Give: Matthew Pavlich, Steve Johnson, Adam Selwood and Pick 59
Reindeers receive: Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Robert Warnock, Justin Westhoff, Daniel Nicholson and Nat pick 34
Reason: HP and i agree that we are building more for the future as much as pav and stevie are guns when our youngsters actually kick in they will already be gone and have received nothing for them. Now we add more depth and potential youngsters to make a force to be reckoned with for seasons to come
Buenos Aires win that with ease for short term.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 23, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
Buenos Aires win that with ease for short term.
Agreed. Might even back them in to go top 4 again now! :o
Quote from: DazBurg on September 23, 2012, 08:55:06 PM
2nd trade of the off season for the Reindeers
Armadillos give: Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Robert Warnock, Justin Westhoff, Daniel Nicholson and Nat pick 34
Armadillos receive: Matthew Pavlich, Steve Johnson, Adam Selwood and Pick 59
Reindeers Give: Matthew Pavlich, Steve Johnson, Adam Selwood and Pick 59
Reindeers receive: Stewart Crameri, Clay Smith, Robert Warnock, Justin Westhoff, Daniel Nicholson and Nat pick 34
Reason: HP and i agree that we are building more for the future as much as pav and stievie are guns when our youngsters actually kick in they will already be gone and have received nothing for them. Now we add more depth and potential youngsters to make a force to be reckoned with for seasons to come
Confirmed. Whilst we give up future guns like Nicholson - a 72 averaging 21yo back man and Crameri who we believe is a potential 90 average forward next year...
We believe our time is now, therefore we have traded for blokes who only have a couple seasons left and will be worthless once they retire.
We see the Reindeers as getting two great fwds who should both average over 85 this season, but still it'll be worth it for us as we feel it's now or never. 2nd is just first place loser and we needed to do something drastic to give us our best hope.
Set yourself up for Top 4 Nails.
Still think your list lags behind the Pumas and Cobras.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 23, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Set yourself up for Top 4 Nails.
Still think your list lags behind the Pumas and Cobras.
And Brewers............... :P
Quote from: Maca24 on September 23, 2012, 08:56:39 PM
Buenos Aires win that with ease for short term.
Nice edit Maca ;). Knew Nails is going for short term, so tried to work with that!
But indeed, a very big short term loss for us, losing Pav and Stevie J, two of the top scoring forwards in the comp :-X. But Pav will be 32 next year and Stevie J 30, so can see why we'd rather cash in on them now while we have the chance to get some players in return. Crams and Westhoff won't be world beaters, but solid forwards for the medium term future. Warnock to try and help our Ruck situation. Nicholson looks solid as a young back and we rate Clay Smith highly, and joins our young midfield brigade in Shiel, Wingard, Kavanagh, Hallahan and Marley (Not to mention Jones and Rich). The Nat pick is also handy :P.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 23, 2012, 09:01:47 PM
Set yourself up for Top 4 Nails.
Still think your list lags behind the Pumas and Cobras.
Yeah, we lack it in the mids right now to be honest.
I think the trade should get through imo, if Reindeers keep Stevie J/Pav for a couple seasons they end up w/ 2 retired, worthless players. Reindeers I didn't consider a top 4 chance, but I gave them two decent forwards in replace, but we both agreed it was in their best interest to get as much younger talent as possible to suit their side.
Guys if you want Zorko make an offer. He Will probably be out by tonight . Don't mind what posistion
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 23, 2012, 09:17:07 PM
Guys if you want Zorko make an offer. He Will probably be out by tonight . Don't mind what posistion
Reply to your pm's for once :P
Another trade for the PNL Reindeers!
Reindeers Give: George Horlin-Smith.
New Dehli Gives: Jackson Trengove.
Reason: We have plenty of promising forwards so to get a young defender will certainly help us cover the loss or some of our older defenders in McPharlin and Newman who may be retiring coming seasons, if not traded for earlier ;). And we rate Horlin-Smith highly if he is able to lock down a spot in the Cats' 22.
Confirmed Hrlin smith will be a gun , happy to lose Trengove
Moscow trades: Pick 87
Beijing trades: Jurrah
Reason: I don't like him. I really don't think he has a future in the AFL and got whatever I could.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 23, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
Moscow trades: Pick 87
Beijing trades: Jurrah
Reason: I don't like him. I really don't think he has a future in the AFL and got whatever I could.
Confirmed. Dunno why.
Quote from: meow meow on September 23, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 23, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
Moscow trades: Pick 87
Beijing trades: Jurrah
Reason: I don't like him. I really don't think he has a future in the AFL and got whatever I could.
Confirmed. Dunno why.
Hope? :P
Moscow trades: Pick 22 and 30
Beijing trades: Tuck
Reason: Draft picks. We want them. Moscow gave them.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 23, 2012, 10:55:37 PM
Moscow trades: Pick 22 and 30
Beijing trades: Tuck
Reason: Draft picks. We want them. Moscow gave them.
Tuck is a gun and we'll be happy to have him for his final season. Giving up two good quality picks won't destroy the team as it is a young list.
Meow well done! *Claps
I feel sorry for ossie tomorrow having to write all of these up! SO many!!! :o :o :o
And another!
BERLIN TRADES: Trent West + Pick 58
TOKYO TRADES: Picks 13 and 25
Reasoning:
Trent West was no longer required, and I felt this deal shows his worth at another club. Ruckman like West are quite rare.
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 24, 2012, 08:05:55 AM
And another!
BERLIN TRADES: Trent West + Pick 58
TOKYO TRADES: Picks 13 and 25
Reasoning:
Trent West was no longer required, and I felt this deal shows his worth at another club. Ruckman like West are quite rare.
Confirmed. Needed a ruckman that is more certain to play. West should only improve too.
Still waiting for 4 coaches, plenty have been confirmed already, but am going to wait a bit longer
Rightio, it has happened yet - but if votes go a certain way a couple of trades could be rejected.
But something has happened that I didn't count on, but probably should have
... people's reasons for rejecting the trades are contradictory (i.e. some say one person gets too much advantage, while another says the other gets too much advantage).
So, should we still say that 6 votes cause a trade to be cancelled - regardless of reason?
Or something like this - If 4 people vote one way, and 2 people vote the other way.... it would be (4 - 2 =) 2 votes against?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Rightio, it has happened yet - but if votes go a certain way a couple of trades could be rejected.
But something has happened that I didn't count on, but probably should have
... people's reasons for rejecting the trades are contradictory (i.e. some say one person gets too much advantage, while another says the other gets too much advantage).
So, should we still say that 6 votes cause a trade to be cancelled - regardless of reason?
Or something like this - If 4 people vote one way, and 2 people vote the other way.... it would be (4 - 2 =) 2 votes against?
Wow, thats an interesting point you raise ossie.
I reckon that it should be 6 regardless of the contradiction as 6 coaches believe the overall trade is unfair in some way.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Rightio, it has happened yet - but if votes go a certain way a couple of trades could be rejected.
But something has happened that I didn't count on, but probably should have
... people's reasons for rejecting the trades are contradictory (i.e. some say one person gets too much advantage, while another says the other gets too much advantage).
So, should we still say that 6 votes cause a trade to be cancelled - regardless of reason?
Or something like this - If 4 people vote one way, and 2 people vote the other way.... it would be (4 - 2 =) 2 votes against?
Nah votes should still count.
That just gives it even more reason to be voted out as it's a bad trade all round.
How can something be a bad trade all round? Both sides lose? How? ::) will post my thoughts up after uni class... in about an hour
I think the contradicting trades idea is an interesting one. I'd say in your example it should only count for 2 votes, because if people think it's unfair one way and others think it is unfair the other, it obviously isn't a clear advantage to a certain party, thus the trade is deemed fair IMO.
Correct me if I'm wrong... but the reason we have a voting system in place and don't allow coaches to trade without acceptance is to block trades that are glaringly obvious that they are one sided...
For example Dane Swan and Scott Pendlebury for Sam Blease... This is clearly a one sided trade and the kind of trade the vote was introduced for.
Therefore if voters are arguing either way on a trade, sure it might not be 100% fair and exactly equal on both sides, one side might have overpaid and one side may have underpaid obviously. But not all trades are 100% fair but are done for the team's purpose in mind. I think we need to block the glaringly obvious ones, because if a coach doesn't rate just youth or something, it might be a little unfair but he sees it as glaringly unfair.
Therefore if voters are going either way on a trade, it is not a glaringly obvious one sided trade which the system is in existence for. Therefore if it can be argued either way or is being argued either way, I'd say that in either way it is only slightly unfair and should not receive a negative vote.
In conclusion, if argued for and against in contradictory fashions it should be 4-2 not 4+2.
It's worse when you get neg'd for the reason team will be to strong :/
If you go for the 4-2 method, you'll be letting in a lot more unfair trades IMO. Thats what we dont want. ::)
If people have seen a problem with the trade, then there is a problem. Simple as that.
What happens if 11 coaches see a problem with a trade, yet the voting is 8-3? The vote passes, yet 11 coaches have voted against it. :-X
Keep it simple, if 6 coaches say no, then the trade shouldn't be allowed through. Not like many have been vetoed anyway. :)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on September 25, 2012, 02:57:38 PM
If you go for the 4-2 method, you'll be letting in a lot more unfair trades IMO. Thats what we dont want. ::)
If people have seen a problem with the trade, then there is a problem. Simple as that.
What happens if 11 coaches see a problem with a trade, yet the voting is 8-3? The vote passes, yet 11 coaches have voted against it. :-X
Keep it simple, if 6 coaches say no, then the trade shouldn't be allowed through. Not like many have been vetoed anyway. :)
Agree with this entirely.
If 6+ coaches think a trade is unfair it should be blocked regardless of which club they think benefits more. The bottom line is 6 coaches object to the trade. As long as the reasons are all acceptable (which is for Os to decide) he trade shouldn't pass.
I'll raise this concern though
If person X and person Y propose a trade, and 3 people vote one way, and 3 the other way.
What are person X and person Y to do? If they want to renegotiate they won't know if they are meant to offer more or less
If 3 think one team gets the advantage
but 3 think the other team gets the advantage...
Clearly the advantage isn't glaringly in favour of one team. Trades can be partially unfair, just not glaringly unfair, which a lot of coaches seem to have forgotten.
- Ossie kinda beat me to it.... well the 3/3 part.
I think if 6 coaches have a problem, then I think the trade shouldn't go through regardless
6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...
Quote from: Boomz on September 25, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...
Sorry Boomz, don't remember you posting that! If I saw it, would have asked earlier.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 03:07:22 PM
I'll raise this concern though
If person X and person Y propose a trade, and 3 people vote one way, and 3 the other way.
What are person X and person Y to do? If they want to renegotiate they won't know if they are meant to offer more or less
Quote from: Purple 77 on September 25, 2012, 03:49:18 PM
I think if 6 coaches have a problem, then I think the trade shouldn't go through regardless
I think I know the trade obviously :P. I would agree that it shouldn't go through if 6 neg it, however, where does that leave renegotiations to go as people will always see it unfair from one side or another? Leaves very little room to try and work out a deal if that's the case :-\. As we don't know who is giving more if other coaches are contradicting other's reasons, will be very hard to work out a deal that everybody will be happy to pass...
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 04:45:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on September 25, 2012, 04:27:33 PM
6 votes = Negged regardless of which way people are saying IMO. Saw this coming...
Sorry Boomz, don't remember you posting that! If I saw it, would have asked earlier.
Nah only saw it coming this week of trades so didn't think to post it :P Not surprised if it's the trade I'm thinking though after having seen how some people rate players in this.
It has already happened IIRC...
Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...
Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.
I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...
Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.
I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.
It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...
Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.
I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.
It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.
It has you giving up your whole younger brigade + depth and it has HP losing two of his absolute guns for young players that IMO aren't of that much quality.
You lose all your depth while HP loses his two highest scoring forwards.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:41:13 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:19:08 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 05:11:26 PM
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:07:01 PM
It has already happened IIRC...
Pretty sure the trade between Maca and I had contradictory negs.
That's correct. We couldn't re-negotiate really. Seems the same has happened to you and HP.
I think the rule should stay though. Obviously the trade sucks for both parties and it is in both of your best interests that it doesn't go through.
It doesn't suck for both of us though...
Gives HP his future players that he's after, and gives me the guns I need now. It's good for both sides involved.
It has you giving up your whole younger brigade + depth and it has HP losing two of his absolute guns for young players that IMO aren't of that much quality.
You lose all your depth while HP loses his two highest scoring forwards.
Correction 2/3 of my highest scoring forwards :P.
Teams should be allowed to go for a future focus....
Therefore trading out 2 OLD, on the verge of retirement forwards for younger players who still/will average 80-90 and have room for improvement should be a GOOD thing, not a BAD thing.
He and Daz aren't tanking as it's not like they're replacing w/ 50 ave fwds... They're also getting good back ups and future players.
It also helps my, "my chance is here and now" stance... If the trade gets blocked it greatly assists HP and I back to mediocrity :(
Mediocrity Nails? Your team finished 4th last year
Anyways...
One trade failed - and only just
Trade 61 votes against: Boomz, c4v3m4n, Maca24, ossie85, Purple 77, pyronerd/Sid
Reasons against:
- Pavlich and Steve Johnson are premiums, trading 2 premiums for zero no matter how old they are is crazy.
- PNL wins trade by too much in long term
- Buenos Aires wins trade by too much in short term
Personal note - I thought this trade would get heaps of votes, and only just got voted down. Amazed me more when people said PNL won the trade :/
It was actually mine and BB's Clancee Pearce trade that was the controversial one. 5 people voted it down, 3 saying that Pearce isn't worth that much, 2 said that he was worth much more. At least with the Pav/Stevie J trade you could make a short term/long term argument! This one was directly contradictory lol
Other trading results!
Points Cap update:
Remember that 33,000 limit? Well, this is how it is looking after 3 trade weeks. These lists INCLUDE retirements and delistings, so don't panic too much if you are close to 33,000 (the total points your players scored in the 17 season matches)
Beijing - 24,126
Berlin - 25,871
Buenos Aires - 28,286
Cairo - 30,471
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 23,934
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 35,960
Moscow - 27,324
New Dehli - 22,889
New York - 26,812
Pacific - 17,753
PNL - 29,801
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 31,351
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
So only Mexico City has something to worry about to get under 33,000. People seem very content to keep giving them another premiership :/
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44 2
45 5
46 1
47 4
48 0
49 2
50 2
51 3
52 2
53 3
54 1
55 5
56 1
57 0
58 3
59 4
60 0
61 6
62 1
63 1
64 2
And I'll text vomit the lists as I currently have them (still includes delistings/retirements)
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Kelvin Lawrence Pacific Islanders
Billy Longer Pacific Islanders
Adam Tomlinson Pacific Islanders
Tom Mitchell Pacific Islanders
Mitchell Grigg Pacific Islanders
Jack Newnes Pacific Islanders
Nathan Blee Pacific Islanders
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen Pacific Islanders
Sam Gibson Pacific Islanders
Harry Cunningham Pacific Islanders
Matt Priddis PNL Reindeers
Cyril Rioli PNL Reindeers
Jackson Trengove PNL Reindeers
Matthew Pavlich PNL Reindeers
Steve Johnson PNL Reindeers
Jarred Brennan PNL Reindeers
Chris Newman PNL Reindeers
Heath Grundy PNL Reindeers
Luke Ball PNL Reindeers
Kade Simpson PNL Reindeers
Jarrod Harbrow PNL Reindeers
Daniel Rich PNL Reindeers
Matthew Lobbe PNL Reindeers
Nathan Jones PNL Reindeers
Dylan Shiel PNL Reindeers
Nick Lower PNL Reindeers
Liam Jones PNL Reindeers
David Myers PNL Reindeers
Adam Selwood PNL Reindeers
Angus Graham PNL Reindeers
Jarrad Grant PNL Reindeers
Farren Ray PNL Reindeers
Christian Howard PNL Reindeers
Rohan Bail PNL Reindeers
Tom Lynch PNL Reindeers
Nathan Lovett-Murray PNL Reindeers
Matt Thomas PNL Reindeers
Luke McPharlin PNL Reindeers
Trent Dennis-Lane PNL Reindeers
Mitch Hallahan PNL Reindeers
Tyson Goldsack PNL Reindeers
Marcus Davies PNL Reindeers
Levi Casboult PNL Reindeers
Bradley Helbig PNL Reindeers
Thomas Jonas PNL Reindeers
Sam Grimley PNL Reindeers
Andrew McInnes PNL Reindeers
Tim Segrave PNL Reindeers
Chad Wingard PNL Reindeers
Elliott Kavanagh PNL Reindeers
Jordan Lockyer PNL Reindeers
Jackson Paine PNL Reindeers
Beau Wilkes PNL Reindeers
Andrew McQualter PNL Reindeers
Piva Wright PNL Reindeers
Adam Pattison PNL Reindeers
Marley Williams PNL Reindeers
Gary Ablett jnr Sao Paulo Pumas
Sam Jacobs Sao Paulo Pumas
David Zaharakis Sao Paulo Pumas
Jarryd Roughead Sao Paulo Pumas
Hamish Hartlett Sao Paulo Pumas
Rory Sloane Sao Paulo Pumas
Bachar Houli Sao Paulo Pumas
Andrew Walker Sao Paulo Pumas
Beau Waters Sao Paulo Pumas
Scott McMahon Sao Paulo Pumas
Mitch Duncan Sao Paulo Pumas
Stephen Hill Sao Paulo Pumas
Jack Gunston Sao Paulo Pumas
Alex Silvagni Sao Paulo Pumas
Jason Porplyzia Sao Paulo Pumas
Tony Armstrong Sao Paulo Pumas
Brendan Whitecross Sao Paulo Pumas
Jared Polec Sao Paulo Pumas
Mitch Wallis Sao Paulo Pumas
Matthew Wright Sao Paulo Pumas
Chris Masten Sao Paulo Pumas
Will Minson Sao Paulo Pumas
Andrew Raines Sao Paulo Pumas
Majak Daw Sao Paulo Pumas
Rory Thompson Sao Paulo Pumas
Bradley Sheppard Sao Paulo Pumas
Sebastian Tape Sao Paulo Pumas
Ryan Harwood Sao Paulo Pumas
Hayden Jolly Sao Paulo Pumas
Dylan Roberton Sao Paulo Pumas
Ariel Steinberg Sao Paulo Pumas
Simon White Sao Paulo Pumas
Peter Yagmoor Sao Paulo Pumas
Luke Lowden Sao Paulo Pumas
Dylan McNeil Sao Paulo Pumas
Mitchell Carter Sao Paulo Pumas
Matthew Buntine Sao Paulo Pumas
Liam Sumner Sao Paulo Pumas
Taylor Adams Sao Paulo Pumas
Devon Smith Sao Paulo Pumas
Alex Forster Sao Paulo Pumas
Jimmy Webster Sao Paulo Pumas
Brett O'Hanlon Sao Paulo Pumas
Brendan Lee Sao Paulo Pumas
Amos Frank Sao Paulo Pumas
Cameron Shenton Sao Paulo Pumas
Bryce Gibbs Seoul Magpies
Ben McEvoy Seoul Magpies
Brett Deledio Seoul Magpies
Patrick Dangerfield Seoul Magpies
Josh J Kennedy Seoul Magpies
Chris Yarran Seoul Magpies
Tom Scully Seoul Magpies
James Kelly Seoul Magpies
Paul Duffield Seoul Magpies
Chris Dawes Seoul Magpies
Hayden Ballantyne Seoul Magpies
Xavier Ellis Seoul Magpies
Jude Bolton Seoul Magpies
Jason Gram Seoul Magpies
Liam Anthony Seoul Magpies
Rhys Stanley Seoul Magpies
Nick Maxwell Seoul Magpies
Matthew Scarlett Seoul Magpies
Brent Macaffer Seoul Magpies
Brett Ebert Seoul Magpies
Luke Power Seoul Magpies
Charlie Dixon Seoul Magpies
Luke Thompson Seoul Magpies
Lachlan Keeffe Seoul Magpies
Shannon Byrnes Seoul Magpies
Matthew Warnock Seoul Magpies
Jeremy Taylor Seoul Magpies
Dawson Simpson Seoul Magpies
Alwyn Davey Seoul Magpies
Luke Russell Seoul Magpies
Rhys Cooyou Seoul Magpies
Liam Patrick Seoul Magpies
Nicholas Winmar Seoul Magpies
Eric MacKenzie Seoul Magpies
Tom Lonergan Seoul Magpies
Josh Thomas Seoul Magpies
George Burbury Seoul Magpies
Anton Hamp Seoul Magpies
Stephen Coniglio Seoul Magpies
Sebastian Ross Seoul Magpies
Joel Hamling Seoul Magpies
Murray Newman Seoul Magpies
Jay Lever Seoul Magpies
Jed Bews Seoul Magpies
Brad Dick Seoul Magpies
Fletcher Roberts Seoul Magpies
Alex Brown Seoul Magpies
Clancee Pearce Seoul Magpies
Cameron Sutcliffe Seoul Magpies
Chris Judd Tokyo Samurai
Sam Mitchell Tokyo Samurai
Matt Suckling Tokyo Samurai
Luke Shuey Tokyo Samurai
Kieran Jack Tokyo Samurai
Jake Carlisle Tokyo Samurai
Ben McGlynn Tokyo Samurai
Kurt Tippett Tokyo Samurai
Heath Hocking Tokyo Samurai
Scott Selwood Tokyo Samurai
Jared Rivers Tokyo Samurai
Alex Fasolo Tokyo Samurai
Phil Davis Tokyo Samurai
Luke Dahlhaus Tokyo Samurai
Ted Richards Tokyo Samurai
Nick Suban Tokyo Samurai
Ben Stratton Tokyo Samurai
Tayte Pears Tokyo Samurai
Ashley Smith Tokyo Samurai
Luke Parker Tokyo Samurai
Ricky Henderson Tokyo Samurai
Shaun Hampson Tokyo Samurai
Alex Browne Tokyo Samurai
Tim Golds Tokyo Samurai
Lewis Jetta Tokyo Samurai
Jamie Bennell Tokyo Samurai
Daniel Stewart Tokyo Samurai
Tom Gillies Tokyo Samurai
Neville Jetta Tokyo Samurai
Andrew Phillips Tokyo Samurai
Adam Kennedy Tokyo Samurai
Steven Motlop Tokyo Samurai
Luke Mitchell Tokyo Samurai
Alik Magin Tokyo Samurai
Luke Davis Tokyo Samurai
Andrew Collins Tokyo Samurai
Jacob Townsend Tokyo Samurai
Lewis Moss Tokyo Samurai
Derick Wanganeen Tokyo Samurai
Jonathon Patton Tokyo Samurai
Jackson Merrett Tokyo Samurai
Nicholas O'Brien Tokyo Samurai
Tom Campbell Tokyo Samurai
Jackson Sheringham Tokyo Samurai
Hal Hunter Tokyo Samurai
Callum Papertalk Tokyo Samurai
Jack Redpath Tokyo Samurai
Andrew Swallow Toronto Wolves
Scott Pendlebury Toronto Wolves
Paddy Ryder Toronto Wolves
Sam Fisher Toronto Wolves
Robbie Gray Toronto Wolves
Jack Riewoldt Toronto Wolves
Darren Jolly Toronto Wolves
Jack Ziebell Toronto Wolves
Andrew Carrazzo Toronto Wolves
Michael Jamison Toronto Wolves
Cameron Pedersen Toronto Wolves
Angus Monfries Toronto Wolves
Nathan Grima Toronto Wolves
Andrew Embley Toronto Wolves
David Hale Toronto Wolves
Michael Johnson Toronto Wolves
Ben Cunnington Toronto Wolves
Ashley McGrath Toronto Wolves
Aaron Edwards Toronto Wolves
Sam Butler Toronto Wolves
Kieran Harper Toronto Wolves
Sam Wright Toronto Wolves
Clinton Jones Toronto Wolves
Josh Toy Toronto Wolves
Jaime MacMillan Toronto Wolves
Levi Greenwood Toronto Wolves
Aaron Davey Toronto Wolves
Ben Johnson Toronto Wolves
Jesse White Toronto Wolves
Ben Hudson Toronto Wolves
Matt Shaw Toronto Wolves
Benjamin Speight Toronto Wolves
Jacob Surjan Toronto Wolves
Aaron Joseph Toronto Wolves
Jesse Crichton Toronto Wolves
Matt Maguire Toronto Wolves
Jacob Gillbee Toronto Wolves
Tom Hickey Toronto Wolves
Taylor Hine Toronto Wolves
Sam Martyn Toronto Wolves
Tom Curran Toronto Wolves
Jordan Kelly Toronto Wolves
Aaron Hall Toronto Wolves
Justin Clarke Toronto Wolves
Tom Bell Toronto Wolves
Frazer Dale Toronto Wolves
Marc Murphy Wellington Warriors
Hamish McIntosh Wellington Warriors
Jed Adcock Wellington Warriors
Lenny Hayes Wellington Warriors
Robin Nahas Wellington Warriors
Isaac Smith Wellington Warriors
Nathan Foley Wellington Warriors
Adam Schneider Wellington Warriors
Joel Corey Wellington Warriors
Josh Drummond Wellington Warriors
Tendai Mzungu Wellington Warriors
Brad Green Wellington Warriors
Taylor Walker Wellington Warriors
Michael Doughty Wellington Warriors
Jonathan Giles Wellington Warriors
Patrick Karnezis Wellington Warriors
Reece Conca Wellington Warriors
Leroy Jetta Wellington Warriors
Thomas Bugg Wellington Warriors
Mitch Golby Wellington Warriors
Gerrick Weedon Wellington Warriors
Campbell Brown Wellington Warriors
Travis Colyer Wellington Warriors
Liam Picken Wellington Warriors
Rohan Bewick Wellington Warriors
Ben McKinley Wellington Warriors
Luke McGuane Wellington Warriors
Ryan Lester Wellington Warriors
Niall McKeever Wellington Warriors
Jack Fitzpatrick Wellington Warriors
Aaron Cornelius Wellington Warriors
Luke Rounds Wellington Warriors
Dennis Armfield Wellington Warriors
James Hawksley Wellington Warriors
Joel Patfull Wellington Warriors
Mitchell Curnow Wellington Warriors
Sam Shaw Wellington Warriors
Jeremy McGovern Wellington Warriors
Patrick Wearden Wellington Warriors
Andrew Boseley Wellington Warriors
Jack Crisp Wellington Warriors
Gibson Turner Wellington Warriors
Sam Menegola Wellington Warriors
Jordan Staley Wellington Warriors
Remember that 33,000 limit? Well, this is how it is looking after 3 trade weeks. These lists INCLUDE retirements and delistings, so don't panic too much if you are close to 33,000 (the total points your players scored in the 17 season matches)
Where can I read about this?
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:53:03 PM
Remember that 33,000 limit? Well, this is how it is looking after 3 trade weeks. These lists INCLUDE retirements and delistings, so don't panic too much if you are close to 33,000 (the total points your players scored in the 17 season matches)
Where can I read about this?
The rules page, and probably in the discussion.
New York gives: Pick 33, Ryan Bastinac, Bernie Vince, Michael Rischitelli, Kyal Horsley, Lewis Johnston
Cairo gives: Harley Bennell, Koby Stevens and Hayden Crozier
Surprised that one got through to be honest and now depressed mine didn't :'(
Oh well, time to enter negotiations w/ HP/Daz again.
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 05:56:02 PM
New York gives: Pick 33, Ryan Bastinac, Bernie Vince, Michael Rischitelli, Kyal Horsley, Lewis Johnston
Cairo gives: Harley Bennell, Koby Stevens and Hayden Crozier
Surprised that one got through to be honest and now depressed mine didn't :'(
Oh well, time to enter negotiations w/ HP/Daz again.
So am I
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 05:47:57 PM
Trade N
44 2
45 5
46 1
47 4
48 0
49 2
50 2
51 3
52 2
53 3
54 1
55 5
56 1
57 0
58 3
59 4
60 0
61 6
62 1
63 1
64 2
Lot of voting this week though! :o
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Mediocrity Nails? Your team finished 4th last year
Yes, Mediocrity. If you look at your point caps, which take into consideration trading I'm only the 9th best :o
Because a lot of the teams under us have traded up and we were lucky to get 4th anyway, if I can't get in 2 fwds = no chance of premiership = wasted all my trades thus far :(
So the 3300 rule was confirmed was it?
At what time must I be under the rule? like whens cut off?
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 06:10:46 PM
So the 3300 rule was confirmed was it?
At what time must I be under the rule? like whens cut off?
Final list lodgements I'd guess...?
Quote from: Sid on September 25, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 06:10:46 PM
So the 3300 rule was confirmed was it?
At what time must I be under the rule? like whens cut off?
Final list lodgements I'd guess...?
^ this one
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 06:19:18 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 25, 2012, 06:12:26 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 06:10:46 PM
So the 3300 rule was confirmed was it?
At what time must I be under the rule? like whens cut off?
Final list lodgements I'd guess...?
^ this one
Which is when?
Can I ask what the penalties are if I'm not below?
Before the preseason/rookie draft - and you won't be able to pick any players from these drafts that would put you over.
It's like player cap rule Maca, no penalty as such, you just have to do it.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 06:26:02 PM
Before the preseason/rookie draft - and you won't be able to pick any players from these drafts that would put you over.
It's like player cap rule Maca, no penalty as such, you just have to do it.
No worries. Last question, its based on the total score from 2012 yeah? not average?
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Mexico City - 35,960
Pacific - 17,753
LOL. Difference from first to last. Maca has more than double that me points wise. :P
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 06:42:18 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 06:26:02 PM
Before the preseason/rookie draft - and you won't be able to pick any players from these drafts that would put you over.
It's like player cap rule Maca, no penalty as such, you just have to do it.
No worries. Last question, its based on the total score from 2012 yeah? not average?
Score from WXV Round 1-17, this should help:
Player Sum17
Brendon Goddard 1558
Aaron Sandilands 917
Luke Hodge 281
Scott Thompson 1941
Jimmy Bartel 1388
Corey Enright 1448
Adam Goodes 1089
Daniel Kerr 1427
Paul Chapman 1661
Nick Riewoldt 1723
Mark LeCras 0
Brent Moloney 902
Brent Harvey 1614
Daniel Merrett 1292
Sam Gilbert 1238
Alan Didak 294
Jordan Lewis 1552
Kyle Hardingham 997
Shaun Burgoyne 1254
Jarrad Waite 633
Simon Black 1185
Martin Mattner 938
Chris Knights 198
Ivan Maric 1821
Mark Nicoski 0
Bradley Ebert 1640
Garrick Ibbotson 1164
Michael Firrito 1290
Steven Salopek 0
Alan Toovey 995
Brett Peake 59
James Strauss 147
Brock McLean 1028
Jarred Moore 0
Matthew White 183
Jay van Berlo 41
Dylan Addison 741
Josh Mellington 122
Brad Harvey 0
Ryan Bathie 0
Tom Curren 0
Henry Schade 0
Daniel Pearce 170
Darren Pfeiffer 754
Mark Baguley 275
Malcolm Lynch 0
Matthew Lodge 0
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Mediocrity Nails? Your team finished 4th last year
Anyways...
One trade failed - and only just
Trade 61 votes against: Boomz, c4v3m4n, Maca24, ossie85, Purple 77, pyronerd/Sid
Reasons against:
- Pavlich and Steve Johnson are premiums, trading 2 premiums for zero no matter how old they are is crazy.
- PNL wins trade by too much in long term
- Buenos Aires wins trade by too much in short term
Personal note - I thought this trade would get heaps of votes, and only just got voted down. Amazed me more when people said PNL won the trade :/
It was actually mine and BB's Clancee Pearce trade that was the controversial one. 5 people voted it down, 3 saying that Pearce isn't worth that much, 2 said that he was worth much more. At least with the Pav/Stevie J trade you could make a short term/long term argument! This one was directly contradictory lol
Other trading results!
Points Cap update:
Remember that 33,000 limit? Well, this is how it is looking after 3 trade weeks. These lists INCLUDE retirements and delistings, so don't panic too much if you are close to 33,000 (the total points your players scored in the 17 season matches)
Beijing - 24,126
Berlin - 25,871
Buenos Aires - 28,286
Cairo - 30,471
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 23,934
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 35,960
Moscow - 27,324
New Dehli - 22,889
New York - 26,812
Pacific - 17,753
PNL - 29,801
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 31,351
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
So only Mexico City has something to worry about to get under 33,000. People seem very content to keep giving them another premiership :/
and there is the flaw in the system
i don't mind it got shot down if thats how coaches feel then fair enough i'm happy with how it is seen since i respect all the coaches involved but the one way the flaw is
as you said Oss how can we renegotiate with nails
with those two bolded reasons
so it was deemed unfair to us for losing such guns
yet on the other hand it was deemed unfair on nails for giving up the youngsters
kinda makes it hard to fix it doesn't it?
Why is a Coach being penalized for great list management? If a Coach is good enough to build a dynasty good luck to them I say!
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 25, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
Why is a Coach being penalized for great list management? If a Coach is good enough to build a dynasty good luck to them I say!
Because it is the equivalent of a salary cap.
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 25, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
Why is a Coach being penalized for great list management? If a Coach is good enough to build a dynasty good luck to them I say!
I agree TBag. But unfortunately others don't :P
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 08:57:40 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on September 25, 2012, 08:19:20 PM
Why is a Coach being penalized for great list management? If a Coach is good enough to build a dynasty good luck to them I say!
I agree TBag. But unfortunately others don't :P
I agree aswell, even though im miles under the cap. Ossie runs the comp soo well though so Im fine with sticking to the rules set.
This is going to sound wrong of me but I always feel like I'm put at a disadvantage with the rules.
Eg. Squad numbers, Salary cap and the Trade Voting also tends to be harsher on the better teams.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
This is going to sound wrong of me but I always feel like I'm put at a disadvantage with the rules.
Eg. Squad numbers, Salary cap and the Trade Voting also tends to be harsher on the better teams.
Although I dont like the excuse of "making a team too strong" in negging a trade, I think it is just to make the competition more even and interesting. Im certain its nothing personal.
In a trade to shock the world
NYR Trades: Steven Verrier
BAA Trades: Pick 88 (ND)
Reasoning:
This is a really deep draft and I'm willing to sacrifice rookie listed players for low picks.
Quote from: Sid on September 25, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
In a trade to shock the world
NYR Trades: Steven Verrier
BAA Trades: Pick 88 (ND)
Deal
It's a bargain.
Quote from: Nails on September 25, 2012, 11:07:59 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 25, 2012, 11:07:40 PM
In a trade to shock the world
NYR Trades: Steven Verrier
BAA Trades: Pick 88 (ND)
Deal
It's a bargain.
With no reasons, this trade won't go through. ;)
Plus if you reckon its a bargain, you're opening yourself up to a veto there. :P
Quote from: ossie85 on September 25, 2012, 05:46:52 PM
Points Cap update:
Remember that 33,000 limit? Well, this is how it is looking after 3 trade weeks. These lists INCLUDE retirements and delistings, so don't panic too much if you are close to 33,000 (the total points your players scored in the 17 season matches)
Beijing - 24,126
Berlin - 25,871
Buenos Aires - 28,286
Cairo - 30,471
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 23,934
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 35,960
Moscow - 27,324
New Dehli - 22,889
New York - 26,812
Pacific - 17,753
PNL - 29,801
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 31,351
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
So only Mexico City has something to worry about to get under 33,000. People seem very content to keep giving them another premiership :/
Would you be able to show the differences between the first numbers (if you still have them and can be bothered) and these current ones? I'm sure there must have been some big changes and can give some sort of basis for predictions for next season.
Cheers if you are able to Os. :)
Sorry if I sound lazy, but I'm working all week and it's holidays. :(
In the last 8 rounds he averaged 145 points per game.
Let's look at those numbers. 143, 162, 109, 144, 170, 166, 123, 146. Imagine if he was your captain.
Season high score of 175.
Missed round 1 and started the year slowly due to shin soreness in the preseason. Still managed to have the 4th best average in the competition. Imagine if he was fully fit from round 1.
Only 22 years old.
"What happens when Luke Ball comes back?" Well, Dayne is an outside midfielder, so that means even more possessions coming his way. Old Swannie got booted out of the midfield into the forward line because Beams is the new king.
Go on, have a crack.
Quote from: MajorLazer on September 25, 2012, 11:43:46 PM
Would you be able to show the differences between the first numbers (if you still have them and can be bothered) and these current ones? I'm sure there must have been some big changes and can give some sort of basis for predictions for next season.
Cheers if you are able to Os. :)
Sorry if I sound lazy, but I'm working all week and it's holidays. :(
Hey ML, here are the changes from the end of the 2012 H&A season and now.
Team Name | 2012 EOS Cap | Present Cap | Change |
Beijing Bears | 28,845 | 24,126 | -4,719 |
Berlin Brewers | 25,789 | 25,871 | +82 |
Buenos Aires Armadillos | 27,641 | 28,286 | +645 |
Cairo Sands | 26,340 | 30,471 | +4,131 |
Cape Town Cobras | 28,096 | 26,877 | -1,129 |
Dublin Destroyers | 21,555 | 23,934 | +2,379 |
London Royals | 26,030 | 28,798 | +2,768 |
Mexico City Suns | 30,949 | 35,960 | +5,011 |
Moscow Spetsnaz | 28,827 | 27,324 | -1,503 |
New Dehli Tigers | 24,005 | 22,889 | -1,116 |
New York Revolution | 24,990 | 26,812 | +1,822 |
Pacific Islanders | 24,315 | 17,753 | -6,562 |
PNL Reindeers | 29,059 | 29,801 | +742 |
Sao Paulo Pumas | 33,766 | 31,831 | -1,935 |
Seoul Magpies | 33,143 | 31,665 | -1,478 |
Tokyo Samurai | 27,191 | 31,351 | +4,160 |
Toronto Wolves | 31,657 | 31,318 | -339 |
Wellington Warriors | 32,351 | 29,482 | -2,869 |
Assuming all our players stagnate (which I don't expect to happen) we should average 1382.28 (with C) in 2013.
Average age of the whole list is only 21.2352 as well.
Look out! :)
EDIT: Also good to see trading has benefited us. Good work c4. Cheers. :)
Another sneaky edit, the point cap is up despite us having traded out more players than we have trade in.
Quote from: Sid on September 26, 2012, 01:57:55 AM
Assuming all our players stagnate (which I don't expect to happen) we should average 1382.28 (with C) in 2013.
Average age of the whole list is only 21.2352 as well.
Look out! :)
EDIT: Also good to see trading has benefited us. Good work c4. Cheers. :)
Similarly, I calculated my teams average and it currently stands at 1194 with captain in 2013. :-\
My teams age is interestingly higher than Sid's coming in around 21.75.
Work out your average on what you expect them to score, not their 2012 average.
Based on 2011 averages Moscow should have come last in 2012.
I may be a bit optimistic here, but I predict that my best team will average 1510 next year.
Based of last years scores im looking at 1351 which is pretty promising. Expect nearly all my players to lift by 5-10 points. I predict my 15 is capable of scoring 1450-1500 but that's my 15. Will go down with injuries.
Should be much better than last year and 1350+ would be a huge improvement on last year.
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 02:28:29 AM
Based of last years scores im looking at 1351 which is pretty promising. Expect nearly all my players to lift by 5-10 points. I predict my 15 is capable of scoring 1450-1500 but that's my 15. Will go down with injuries.
Should be much better than last year and 1350+ would be a huge improvement on last year.
Wow if you can go from spoon to top 4 that would be the feel-good story of the year. :o
Buenos Aires Give: Nat Draft Pick 74
New York Give: Nat Draft Pick 75
Reasoning: I'm a top bloke.
Quote from: Nails on September 26, 2012, 04:13:59 AM
Buenos Aires Give: Nat Draft Pick 74
New York Give: Nat Draft Pick 75
Reasoning: I'm a top bloke.
Confirmed.
Because it's a pick upgrade. :o
Quote from: Sid on September 26, 2012, 03:57:12 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 02:28:29 AM
Based of last years scores im looking at 1351 which is pretty promising. Expect nearly all my players to lift by 5-10 points. I predict my 15 is capable of scoring 1450-1500 but that's my 15. Will go down with injuries.
Should be much better than last year and 1350+ would be a huge improvement on last year.
Wow if you can go from spoon to top 4 that would be the feel-good story of the year. :o
Won't go top 4. Top 8 would be a huge ask. Just don't want to be the easy beat.
In the euro I have gone from spoon to flag favourite now
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 04:38:28 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 26, 2012, 03:57:12 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 26, 2012, 02:28:29 AM
Based of last years scores im looking at 1351 which is pretty promising. Expect nearly all my players to lift by 5-10 points. I predict my 15 is capable of scoring 1450-1500 but that's my 15. Will go down with injuries.
Should be much better than last year and 1350+ would be a huge improvement on last year.
Wow if you can go from spoon to top 4 that would be the feel-good story of the year. :o
Won't go top 4. Top 8 would be a huge ask. Just don't want to be the easy beat.
In the euro I have gone from spoon to flag favourite now
Just saying only the top 3 teams averaged 1450+ this year. ;)
cheers c4!
Quote from: Maca24 on September 25, 2012, 09:09:40 PM
This is going to sound wrong of me but I always feel like I'm put at a disadvantage with the rules.
Eg. Squad numbers, Salary cap and the Trade Voting also tends to be harsher on the better teams.
^ this is true. Would you prefer a system that's harsher on the worse teams?
Honestly, Maca go cry in your premiership cup lol ;)
Cheers for that C4. :)
I have traded a similar amount of players in and out and have increased the score by 4,000 which isn't too bad.
Mexico improve by 5000...
(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/554/facepalm.jpg)
Don't worry Chumps, I need to lose 2000 points somewhere :P
Does anyone want some depth? Ibbotson? Mattner?
Or maybe a Mid? Kerr? Black?
Even a forward? Chapman? B.Harvey?
All I want in return is... picks :)
Wanna jump on chat again Maca?
Mexico Trades: Kyle Hardingham
Moscow Trades: Jordan Russell
Reason: Points Cap, virtually a straight swap but releases some points. :)
Quote from: Maca24 on September 27, 2012, 12:39:22 AM
Mexico Trades: Kyle Hardingham
Moscow Trades: Jordan Russell
Reason: Points Cap, virtually a straight swap but releases some points. :)
Confirmed. Hardingham has a bright future and takes better speckies than Russell can ever dream about. And because Russell will do his knee.
Moscow trades: Pick #76
Mexico trades: Josh Mellington
Reason: He's the kind of fringe player I want. Has some potential and a sick moustache.
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Moscow trades: Pick #76
Mexico trades: Josh Mellington
Reason: He's the kind of fringe player I want. Has some potential and a sick moustache.
Confirmed: I also love his Mo, so will be sad to see him go, but you know, Pick 76 might be my new bro.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 28, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Moscow trades: Pick #76
Mexico trades: Josh Mellington
Reason: He's the kind of fringe player I want. Has some potential and a sick moustache.
Confirmed: I also love his Mo, so will be sad to see him go, but you know, Pick 76 might be my new bro.
Think we should reject the trade just because of the rhyming.
Second thoughts, lets sack him.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 28, 2012, 02:27:07 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on September 28, 2012, 02:25:36 PM
Quote from: meow meow on September 28, 2012, 02:22:44 PM
Moscow trades: Pick #76
Mexico trades: Josh Mellington
Reason: He's the kind of fringe player I want. Has some potential and a sick moustache.
Confirmed: I also love his Mo, so will be sad to see him go, but you know, Pick 76 might be my new bro.
Think we should reject the trade just because of the rhyming.
Second thoughts, lets sack him.
8) 8) 8)
A deal between me and Maca: Ibbotson, Black, Mattner, White for pick 10.
Reasoning: Ibbotson is 24 and averages 70. Mattner may have 2 years in him. Black is still scoring well and White will score60 as good depth
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 28, 2012, 04:07:37 PM
A deal between me and Maca: Ibbotson, Black, Mattner, White for pick 10.
Reasoning: Ibbotson is 24 and averages 70. Mattner may have 2 years in him. Black is still scoring well and White will score60 as good depth
Confirmed: I need to release some points due to points cap, while the players I've released score very well, Ive needed to get rid of them. Going after picks seemed the only way to go about it. Pick 10 can hopefully draft me a decent AFL player in future if I pick the right guy. Ibbotson leaving sucks as I really rate the guy, and Black, Mattner and White were great depth. But needed to be done.
New York Trades: Ayce Cordy
PNL Trades: Jackson Paine + #59
Doing this because we want picks and forwards. We got both. Seems to work. We rate Paine pretty highly and happy to have him around.
Quote from: Sid on September 28, 2012, 06:44:00 PM
New York Trades: Ayce Cordy
PNL Trades: Jackson Paine + #59
Doing this because we want picks and forwards. We got both. Seems to work. We rate Paine pretty highly and happy to have him around.
PNL accept. Although we rate Paine highly and see that he has a bright future as he played a bit in a Finals contender in Pies in his first season, we have to get a decent Ruck backup. Cordy played about half the games this season, and although not a great scorer, is a young ruck which takes years to develop. Joins Lobbe as our ruck stocks so should see us field a playing ruck next season!
NY Trades: #59
Beijing trades: Mitch Morton
Sydney is good at this.
I've freed up 4000 points :P
Winning.
Quote from: Sid on September 28, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
NY Trades: #59
Beijing trades: Mitch Morton
Sydney is good at this.
Confirmed.
Picks are better.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 29, 2012, 03:45:06 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 28, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
NY Trades: #59
Beijing trades: Mitch Morton
Sydney is good at this.
Confirmed.
Picks are better.
Sure you still wanna do this trade? :P
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 29, 2012, 03:45:06 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 28, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
NY Trades: #59
Beijing trades: Mitch Morton
Sydney is good at this.
Confirmed.
Picks are better.
Sure you still wanna do this trade? :P
LOL, I reckon Nails would give Swan. :P
Quote from: Nails on September 29, 2012, 04:59:02 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 29, 2012, 03:45:06 AM
Quote from: Sid on September 28, 2012, 10:34:02 PM
NY Trades: #59
Beijing trades: Mitch Morton
Sydney is good at this.
Confirmed.
Picks are better.
Sure you still wanna do this trade? :P
Yep ;D
We got a smokie or two for the draft ;)
Starting to regret my Hannebery trade... :-\
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 29, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
Starting to regret my Hannebery trade... :-\
I"m not. Great gain during trade period for the Royals.
Quote from: Ringo on September 30, 2012, 02:37:53 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 29, 2012, 10:32:04 PM
Starting to regret my Hannebery trade... :-\
I"m not. Great gain during trade period for the Royals.
Hmm well hopefully Sheppard can score like I expect he can and Hill can learn to break a tag...
Moscow trades: Matthew Panos
PNL trades: Pick #77
Reason: Tbag and FARK give me the showers and I want as few South Austrailans in my team as possible.
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
Moscow trades: Matthew Panos
PNL trades: Pick #77
Reason: Tbag and FARK give me the showers and I want as few South Austrailans in my team as possible.
I like Bulldog forwards, #77 something I was willing to give up for Panos to join Jones, Grant and Cordy at the Reindeers >:D.
Quote from: meow meow on September 30, 2012, 05:01:48 PM
Reason: Tbag and FARK give me the showers and I want as few South Austrailans in my team as possible.
Perfectly logical reason! :D
Another trade goes through!
Armadillos Trade: Clay Smith, Justin Westhoff, Brad McKenzie + #34
Reindeers Trade: Steve Johnson + Jared Brennan
Reason: Stevie J is a big loss. Westhoff wasn't our first option ( ::) ), but is a solid enough forward who has more seasons left in him that Stevie J. He can score but needs to be on more... Brennan was an oldy we traded for, so ontrading him to get in some youth. Smith has a bright future with the Dogs (3 Dogs traded in this week :o), with McKenzie and #34 should be serving as solid youngsters. Certainly losing short term, and hopefully Steve Johnson continues to decline with entrance of some younger Cat players while Westhoff can lift if Port ever do :P.
Saying this, Luke Ball is on the trading Block :o.
ZORKO GONE
The trade:
S. Gibson, Wood and pick 38 for Zorko
Reasoning: We were looking for a ruck and Wood will serve is well. Gibson is equal to Zorko and we gain a pick. Also you never know what Voss will do with Zorko he might play him at full forward
Quote from: FisherSaints on September 30, 2012, 08:04:36 PM
ZORKO GONE
The trade:
S. Gibson, Wood and pick 38 for Zorko
Reasoning: We were looking for a ruck and Wood will serve is well. Gibson is equal to Zorko and we gain a pick. Also you never know what Voss will do with Zorko he might play him at full forward
CONFIRMED!Reason: Unfortunately Gibson doesnt fit into our youth policy and Zorko does. Plus with the number of ruckman we had, someone had to leave.
::) I was offering more and more FS :(
Would have offered a lot more also. Shop around.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
Would have offered a lot more also. Shop around.
He spent like a month collecting offers and this was the best one. :-X
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
Would have offered a lot more also. Shop around.
This is the thing that frustrates me about dealing with FS, we had been negotiating for over a week now and my offers were getting better and better then he posts a trade with c4 without warning me so I could offer more than him...you get more value out of your trades if you get a bidding war going FS, just advice for the future.
Fair point Sid, My problem is I assume coaches won't give away there good players for nothing. So when I see someone is offering a young mid/fwd averaging 100 I assume I wouldn't be able to afford him. Though it might cost me Deledio or Dangerfield or McEvoy. None of which I'd be wiling to part with. I guess none of those up to the quality of Sam Gibson or Cam Wood though. Clearly it was worth another pick to throw in also.
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2012, 08:24:38 PM
Fair point Sid, My problem is I assume coaches won't give away there good players for nothing. So when I see someone is offering a young mid/fwd averaging 100 I assume I wouldn't be able to afford him. Though it might cost me Deledio or Dangerfield or McEvoy. None of which I'd be wiling to part with. I guess none of those up to the quality of Sam Gibson or Cam Wood though. Clearly it was worth another pick to throw in also.
BOOM!
Quote from: Sid on September 30, 2012, 08:17:55 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
Would have offered a lot more also. Shop around.
He spent like a month collecting offers and this was the best one. :-X
I seriously can not see for the life of me how Gibson is equal to Zorko?
Haha love it Oss 8)
You can not be serious that Monfries is better than Gibson?
Monfries is worth less than bubblegum on my shoe.
Quote from: Nails on September 30, 2012, 09:12:55 PM
You can not be serious that Monfries is better than Gibson?
Monfries is worth less than bubblegum on my shoe.
Probably why Port want him :o
Mexico Trades: Paul Chapman and Brent Harvey
Buenos Trades: Stewart Crameri and NDS #51 AND #52
Reason: I need to release a few more points for points cap, and this trade does that :) I am now in the clear.
Also like to freshen up my forward line, because I have like 11 playing forwards lol.
Was asked to delete some posts. Let's not slander people's trades such as what happened last night in Euro's thread (alot of posts deleted). If it's seen as unfair, it will get negged :).
Quote from: ossie85 on September 30, 2012, 08:24:38 PM
Fair point Sid, My problem is I assume coaches won't give away there good players for nothing. So when I see someone is offering a young mid/fwd averaging 100 I assume I wouldn't be able to afford him. Though it might cost me Deledio or Dangerfield or McEvoy. None of which I'd be wiling to part with. I guess none of those up to the quality of Sam Gibson or Cam Wood though. Clearly it was worth another pick to throw in also.
You can always give me Deledio os. You know what it would cost you ;)
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 30, 2012, 05:22:32 PM
Another trade goes through!
Armadillos Trade: Clay Smith, Justin Westhoff, Brad McKenzie + #34
Reindeers Trade: Steve Johnson + Jared Brennan
Reason: Stevie J is a big loss. Westhoff wasn't our first option ( ::) ), but is a solid enough forward who has more seasons left in him that Stevie J. He can score but needs to be on more... Brennan was an oldy we traded for, so ontrading him to get in some youth. Smith has a bright future with the Dogs (3 Dogs traded in this week :o), with McKenzie and #34 should be serving as solid youngsters. Certainly losing short term, and hopefully Steve Johnson continues to decline with entrance of some younger Cat players while Westhoff can lift if Port ever do :P.
Saying this, Luke Ball is on the trading Block :o.
Confirmed. Need some more talent up forward, and while we rate Clay Smith, Westhoff both very highly, unsure about McKenzie and we like our pick... we need the immediate future and Brennan will be great depth for us.
Quote from: Maca24 on September 30, 2012, 09:42:49 PM
Mexico Trades: Paul Chapman and Brent Harvey
Buenos Trades: Stewart Crameri and NDS #51 AND #52
Reason: I need to release a few more points for points cap, and this trade does that :) I am now in the clear.
Also like to freshen up my forward line, because I have like 11 playing forwards lol.
Confirmed, helps Maca get under the points cap, whilst we rate Crameri very highly and think he has the potential to average 95, we feel Boomer will be a help upon his return from suspension and Chapman is needed up forward and in the midfield
After having this trade in the works some last minute drama almost saw it fall through. But here it is:
NYR Trades: Matthew de Boer + Ahmed Saad + Jackson Paine + Shane Savage
Pacific Trades: Jarryd Blair + #7
Menzel at F4 made me super nervous, now I don't have to rely on his knees holding up. Pick 7 also going to be extremely useful.
Quote from: Sid on September 30, 2012, 11:01:49 PM
After having this trade in the works some last minute drama almost saw it fall through. But here it is:
NYR Trades: Matthew de Boer + Ahmed Saad + Jackson Paine + Shane Savage
Pacific Trades: Jarryd Blair + #7
Menzel at F4 made me super nervous, now I don't have to rely on his knees holding up. Pick 7 also going to be extremely useful.
CONFIRMEDThe Islanders were after some depth in the midfield and forward lines and this deal works for both teams. Glad it all worked out. :)
Maca trades: Shuan Burgoyne
Maca receives: Pick 13
Purple trades: Pick 13 + Jack Watts
Purple receives: Jack Grimes
Holz trades: Michael Barlow
Holz receives: Jack Watts + Jesse Stringer
Nails trades: Jack Grimes + Jesse Strigner
Nails Receives: Barlow + Burgoyne
Reason: While barlow is a gun and i can see him going 105+ next year I need backs and forwards. Watts should be F/B next year so he should help cover both lines. Stringer is abit of a risk but Im loading up on guys in the forward line as i don't want to play IZzzy ever again.
Quote from: Holzman on September 30, 2012, 11:31:23 PM
Maca trades: Shuan Burgoyne
Maca receives: Pick 13
Purple trades: Pick 13 + Jack Watts
Purple receives: Jack Grimes
Holz trades: Michael Barlow
Holz receives: Jack Watts + Jesse Stringer
Nails trades: Jack Grimes + Jesse Strigner
Nails Receives: Barlow + Burgoyne
Reason: While barlow is a gun and i can see him going 105+ next year I need backs and forwards. Watts should be F/B next year so he should help cover both lines. Stringer is abit of a risk but Im loading up on guys in the forward line as i don't want to play IZzzy ever again.
Confirmed: Despite Burgoyne still being 29 and a good defender for scoring, I have enough depth to cover his loss and will enjoy having another first round pick in the draft.
Poor trade in my opinion Sid. Blair will be back averaging 60's or low 70's next season... :-X
Quote from: Holzman on September 30, 2012, 11:31:23 PM
Maca trades: Shuan Burgoyne
Maca receives: Pick 13
Purple trades: Pick 13 + Jack Watts
Purple receives: Jack Grimes
Holz trades: Michael Barlow
Holz receives: Jack Watts + Jesse Stringer
Nails trades: Jack Grimes + Jesse Strigner
Nails Receives: Barlow + Burgoyne
Reason: While barlow is a gun and i can see him going 105+ next year I need backs and forwards. Watts should be F/B next year so he should help cover both lines. Stringer is abit of a risk but Im loading up on guys in the forward line as i don't want to play IZzzy ever again.
Confirmed, whilst the coaching staff at Buenos Aires can see Grimes as a 100-105 average defender next year, we need the midfield depth and strength in Barlow. We feel Burgoyne can be sufficient cover in Grimes' absence and see Barlow as a potential 105 average.
Nails has a decent win there and wha a trade!
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 30, 2012, 11:43:16 PM
Poor trade in my opinion Sid. Blair will be back averaging 60's or low 70's next season... :-X
Aye, apparently a lot of our trades have been bad. :P
Looking beyond next season though! :)
Quote from: Sid on September 30, 2012, 11:55:04 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 30, 2012, 11:43:16 PM
Poor trade in my opinion Sid. Blair will be back averaging 60's or low 70's next season... :-X
Aye, apparently a lot of our trades have been bad. :P
Looking beyond next season though! :)
Yeah fair enough, but I got rid of him for a reason ;)
If you check out his scores he seems to have got his best scores when either Swan or Pendles was not playing, so he got a lot of time running through the centre. Then when they both played his scores would drop as he was used more up forward. With Luke Ball back next season I see less time through the midfield so less points.
I could be wrong though ;)
Mexico Trades: Picks 55 and 76
Beijing Trades: Brian Lake
Reason: With the exit of Burgoyne we have decided to get some depth in the back half, Brian although on his last legs could fill a hole that needs to be filled. Hoping from a 70-75 average :) As I've stated my team direction is short term.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 01, 2012, 12:17:50 AM
Mexico Trades: Picks 55 and 76
Beijing Trades: Brian Lake
Reason: With the exit of Burgoyne we have decided to get some depth in the back half, Brian although on his last legs could fill a hole that needs to be filled. Hoping from a 70-75 average :) As I've stated my team direction is short term.
As long as it is legal for me as bomberboy appointed me in charge for the week while he's away
We accept
Our list is in major need of rebuilding and some picks for a 30yr old player helps this in a deep draft
Moscow trades: Tory Dickson
Cairo trades: Bernard Vince
Reason: Needed another mid, and needed to get the Aaron Young trade in motion. This trade is subject to Young being traded.
Quote from: meow meow on October 01, 2012, 12:51:51 AM
Moscow trades: Tory Dickson
Cairo traded: Bernard Vince
Reason: Needed another mid, and needed to get the Aaron Young trade in motion. This trade is subject to Young being traded.
Confirmed. Needed more forward depth and Vince wasn't even going to be emergency.
God I hate Vince. Most overrated hack in the comp,
Mexico Trades: NDS #52
Cairo Trades: Aaron Young
Reason: You'll see why in a minute. On trading FTW
Quote from: Maca24 on October 01, 2012, 01:27:38 AM
Mexico Trades: NDS #52
Cairo Trades: Aaron Young
Reason: You'll see in a minute. On trading FTW
Confirmed. Mainly because I didn't have to post the trade. :P
Mexico Trades: Pick 10 + Aaron Young
New York Trades: Pick 7
Reason: May seem silly, but I want to be 3 spots higher.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 01, 2012, 01:29:44 AM
Mexico Trades: Pick 10 + Aaron Young
New York Trades: Pick 7
Reason: May seem silly, but I want to be 3 spots higher.
Confirmed. You'll see why in a minute. On trading FTW.
Moscow trades: Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
New York trades: Pick #10 and JACK MOTHERflowerING HOMBSCH
Reason: Pick 10 is a good pick. Hombsch is okay I guess and NY really wanted me to have him.
Quote from: meow meow on October 01, 2012, 01:36:35 AM
Moscow trades: Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
New York trades: Pick #10 and JACK MOTHERflowerING HOMBSCH
Reason: Pick 10 is a good pick. Hombsch is okay I guess and NY really wanted me to have him.
Confirmed.
I'm quite fond of Brodie Smith. He should be quite decent. Maybe.
Mitch Brown provides a bit more depth as well.
Sinclair - why not.
I really rate Brodie. Good win for Sid there.
Moscow trades: Pick #10
Dublin trades: Brandon Ellis
Reason: I know what I am getting with Ellis.
Note: Holz says this trade comes with the provision that the 4 way trade is passed.
Quote from: meow meow on October 01, 2012, 01:45:08 AM
Moscow trades: Pick #10
Dublin trades: Brandon Ellis
Reason: I know what I am getting with Ellis.
Note: Holz says this trade comes with the provision that the 4 way trade is passed.
Wanted to get in with this pick 10 action.
If i get watts i dont really need ellis and i need mids, i think ellis will eventually be a mid only anyway and i think i can find a better mid than him in this draft.
Rightio, will send through the trades soon. Some after midnight, but meh, will also go the 4 way trade with the proviso that Purple eventually confirms it.
Btw ML, I expressed interest in Bernie Vince, I made you an initial offer. It amazes me how people don't shop around, I would have gone higher, but you didn't even ask. Seriously, what's up with that? You're not the only one.
I'm of the opinion that people get way too impatient with trading. The reason why we have months and months is so that we don't need to rush.
I confirm the 4 way trade
The only way Watts was leaving, was if I was getting my favourite player in return.... This is what happened :p. I love watts but I love grimes more. HE WILL BE A GUN. Although a pure mid gun in 2014, he will mainly play back for me next year, along with his brother :), PS: no one draft tom grimes!
Quote from: ossie85 on October 01, 2012, 07:33:29 AM
Rightio, will send through the trades soon. Some after midnight, but meh, will also go the 4 way trade with the proviso that Purple eventually confirms it.
Btw ML, I expressed interest in Bernie Vince, I made you an initial offer. It amazes me how people don't shop around, I would have gone higher, but you didn't even ask. Seriously, what's up with that? You're not the only one.
I'm of the opinion that people get way too impatient with trading. The reason why we have months and months is so that we don't need to rush.
Really sorry about that, Os. My original deal was for a different player, ::) and that didn't go ahead and made a trade quickly, because of the rush of these on trades, which didn't eventuate anyway.
also, get my favourite player in.......... what for it.........
TRADE 77!
:o :o
Still 4 coaches to go, but Trade 74 (Zorko) has failed to pass
:o
::)
One coach remaining, but all other trades have passed.
No idea how Trade 69 passed! Let's follow this logic....
Pick 10 was traded for Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Pick 10 + Aaron Young = Pick 7
Pick 10 + Jack Hombsch = Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
Pick 10 = Brandon Ellis
So I guess it is a good think that trade passed, or else all those other ones would have failed.
Good to know that Brandon Ellis is equivalent to Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White. Really, it is................ Perhaps that is why it passed, because so many other trades were dependent on it.
Lists as I have them....
Matthew Kreuzer Beijing Bears
Harry Taylor Beijing Bears
Liam Shiels Beijing Bears
Travis Varcoe Beijing Bears
Steele Sidebottom Beijing Bears
Eddie Betts Beijing Bears
Patrick Veszpremi Beijing Bears
Rhyce Shaw Beijing Bears
Lindsay Gilbee Beijing Bears
Matt Rosa Beijing Bears
Josh Caddy Beijing Bears
Dean Brogan Beijing Bears
Brent Guerra Beijing Bears
Robbie Tarrant Beijing Bears
Luke Tapscott Beijing Bears
Andrejs Everitt Beijing Bears
Ryan Hargrave Beijing Bears
Joel Wilkinson Beijing Bears
Cale Hooker Beijing Bears
Josh Hunt Beijing Bears
Jake King Beijing Bears
Scott Gumbleton Beijing Bears
Darren Glass Beijing Bears
Matt Spangher Beijing Bears
Mark McVeigh Beijing Bears
Chance Bateman Beijing Bears
Adam McPhee Beijing Bears
Nathan Djerrkura Beijing Bears
Ricky Dyson Beijing Bears
Clint Bartram Beijing Bears
Nick Salter Beijing Bears
Ryan Neates Beijing Bears
Seamus McNamara Beijing Bears
Warrick Andreoli Beijing Bears
Elliot Yeo Beijing Bears
Michael Talia Beijing Bears
Addam Maric Beijing Bears
Shane Biggs Beijing Bears
Danny Butcher Beijing Bears
Lance Franklin Berlin Brewers
Mark Jamar Berlin Brewers
Jack Trengove Berlin Brewers
David Swallow Berlin Brewers
Daniel Wells Berlin Brewers
Jack Grimes Berlin Brewers
Stef Martin Berlin Brewers
Matthew Stokes Berlin Brewers
Jack Steven Berlin Brewers
Andy Otten Berlin Brewers
John Butcher Berlin Brewers
Tom Lynch Berlin Brewers
Michael Hibberd Berlin Brewers
Brandon Matera Berlin Brewers
Colin Garland Berlin Brewers
Dylan Grimes Berlin Brewers
Daniel Talia Berlin Brewers
Lachlan Henderson Berlin Brewers
Daniel Jackson Berlin Brewers
Kane Lucas Berlin Brewers
Ben Warren Berlin Brewers
Shane Edwards Berlin Brewers
Alipate Carlile Berlin Brewers
Maverick Weller Berlin Brewers
Tom McDonald Berlin Brewers
Daniel Archer Berlin Brewers
Jake Spencer Berlin Brewers
Nathan Brown Berlin Brewers
Michael Evans Berlin Brewers
Rohan Kerr Berlin Brewers
Aiden Riley Berlin Brewers
Ben Newton Berlin Brewers
Jackson Ferguson Berlin Brewers
Brad Crouch Berlin Brewers
Tom Downie Berlin Brewers
Josh Tynan Berlin Brewers
James Sellar Berlin Brewers
Lachie Neale Berlin Brewers
Tom Couch Berlin Brewers
James Magner Berlin Brewers
Leigh Williams Berlin Brewers
Simon Tunbridge Berlin Brewers
Dane Swan Buenos Aires Armadillos
Matthew Boyd Buenos Aires Armadillos
Heath Scotland Buenos Aires Armadillos
Drew Petrie Buenos Aires Armadillos
Michael Barlow Buenos Aires Armadillos
Steve Johnson Buenos Aires Armadillos
Robbie Warnock Buenos Aires Armadillos
Shannon Hurn Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jarred Brennan Buenos Aires Armadillos
Paul Chapman Buenos Aires Armadillos
Mitch Robinson Buenos Aires Armadillos
Brent Harvey Buenos Aires Armadillos
Scott D Thompson Buenos Aires Armadillos
Graham Johncock Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jordie McKenzie Buenos Aires Armadillos
Shaun Burgoyne Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jordan Gysberts Buenos Aires Armadillos
David Wojcinksi Buenos Aires Armadillos
Kepler Bradley Buenos Aires Armadillos
Chad Cornes Buenos Aires Armadillos
Kane Cornes Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jay Schulz Buenos Aires Armadillos
Daniel Nicholson Buenos Aires Armadillos
Simon Buckley Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jarrad Redden Buenos Aires Armadillos
Michael Osborne Buenos Aires Armadillos
Tom Logan Buenos Aires Armadillos
Cameron Bruce Buenos Aires Armadillos
Josh Jenkins Buenos Aires Armadillos
David Rodan Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jesse O'Brien Buenos Aires Armadillos
Dean Polo Buenos Aires Armadillos
Amon Buchanan Buenos Aires Armadillos
Brett Meredith Buenos Aires Armadillos
Matt Dea Buenos Aires Armadillos
Paul Stewart Buenos Aires Armadillos
Jarryd Lyons Buenos Aires Armadillos
Blake Bray Buenos Aires Armadillos
Michael Mascoulis Buenos Aires Armadillos
Lin Jong Buenos Aires Armadillos
Will Young Buenos Aires Armadillos
Tim McIntyre Buenos Aires Armadillos
James Craig Buenos Aires Armadillos
Ben Dowdell Buenos Aires Armadillos
Steven Verrier Buenos Aires Armadillos
Shane Mumford Cairo Sands
Nick Dal Santo Cairo Sands
Michael Rischitelli Cairo Sands
Leigh Adams Cairo Sands
Paul Puopolo Cairo Sands
Callan Ward Cairo Sands
Pearce Hanley Cairo Sands
Brad Sewell Cairo Sands
Danny Stanley Cairo Sands
Jeremy Laidler Cairo Sands
Jared Petrenko Cairo Sands
Andrew Krakouer Cairo Sands
Shaun Grigg Cairo Sands
Taylor Hunt Cairo Sands
Jonathon Griffin Cairo Sands
Luke Breust Cairo Sands
Ryan Bastinac Cairo Sands
Lindsay Thomas Cairo Sands
Daniel Connors Cairo Sands
David Armitage Cairo Sands
Ben Jacobs Cairo Sands
James Polkinghorne Cairo Sands
Nick Malceski Cairo Sands
Ryan Crowley Cairo Sands
Cheynee Stiller Cairo Sands
Jamie Cripps Cairo Sands
Simon Phillips Cairo Sands
Lewis Johnston Cairo Sands
Brodie Moles Cairo Sands
Raph Clarke Cairo Sands
Lukas Markovic Cairo Sands
Simon Hogan Cairo Sands
Jarryn Geary Cairo Sands
Cameron Hitchcock Cairo Sands
Sean Dempster Cairo Sands
Lewis Stevenson Cairo Sands
Angus Litherland Cairo Sands
Eugene Kruger Cairo Sands
Taylor Duryea Cairo Sands
Sam Rowe Cairo Sands
Tory Dickson Cairo Sands
Setanta O'hAilpin Cairo Sands
Alex Woodward Cairo Sands
Jai Sheahan Cairo Sands
Cory Dell'Olio Cairo Sands
Kyal Horsley Cairo Sands
Dylan Orval Cairo Sands
Haiden Schloithe Cairo Sands
Joel Selwood Cape Town Cobras
Trent Cotchin Cape Town Cobras
Zac Smith Cape Town Cobras
Jobe Watson Cape Town Cobras
Ryan O'Keefe Cape Town Cobras
Colin Sylvia Cape Town Cobras
Greg Broughton Cape Town Cobras
Josh P Kennedy Cape Town Cobras
Adam Cooney Cape Town Cobras
Tom Hawkins Cape Town Cobras
James Gwilt Cape Town Cobras
Nathan Vardy Cape Town Cobras
Gary Rohan Cape Town Cobras
Edward Curnow Cape Town Cobras
Easton Wood Cape Town Cobras
Jasper Pittard Cape Town Cobras
Billie Smedts Cape Town Cobras
Alex Johnson Cape Town Cobras
Sam Iles Cape Town Cobras
Max Gawn Cape Town Cobras
Jeremy Cameron Cape Town Cobras
Stephen Milne Cape Town Cobras
Craig Bird Cape Town Cobras
Zephaniah Skinner Cape Town Cobras
Cameron O'Shea Cape Town Cobras
Cameron Guthrie Cape Town Cobras
Lynden Dunn Cape Town Cobras
Karmichael Hunt Cape Town Cobras
Josh Cowan Cape Town Cobras
Jacob Brennan Cape Town Cobras
David Astbury Cape Town Cobras
Bryce Retzlaff Cape Town Cobras
Andrew Hooper Cape Town Cobras
Nathan Gordon Cape Town Cobras
Blayne Wilson Cape Town Cobras
Andrew Browne Cape Town Cobras
Henry Slattery Cape Town Cobras
Jordan Schroder Cape Town Cobras
Sam Crocker Cape Town Cobras
Nick Haynes Cape Town Cobras
Todd Elton Cape Town Cobras
Rory Taggert Cape Town Cobras
Brendon Ah Chee Cape Town Cobras
Broc McCauley Cape Town Cobras
Michael Coad Cape Town Cobras
Campbell Heath Cape Town Cobras
Alex Greenwood Cape Town Cobras
Todd Goldstein Dublin Destroyers
Michael Hurley Dublin Destroyers
Dale Thomas Dublin Destroyers
Jack Redden Dublin Destroyers
David Mundy Dublin Destroyers
Mitch Clark Dublin Destroyers
Travis Boak Dublin Destroyers
Troy Chaplin Dublin Destroyers
Jack Watts Dublin Destroyers
Alex Rance Dublin Destroyers
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Robert Murphy Moscow Spetsnaz
Martin Clarke Moscow Spetsnaz
Jack Darling Moscow Spetsnaz
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Ashley Smith Tokyo Samurai
Luke Parker Tokyo Samurai
Ricky Henderson Tokyo Samurai
Shaun Hampson Tokyo Samurai
Alex Browne Tokyo Samurai
Tim Golds Tokyo Samurai
Lewis Jetta Tokyo Samurai
Jamie Bennell Tokyo Samurai
Daniel Stewart Tokyo Samurai
Tom Gillies Tokyo Samurai
Neville Jetta Tokyo Samurai
Andrew Phillips Tokyo Samurai
Adam Kennedy Tokyo Samurai
Steven Motlop Tokyo Samurai
Luke Mitchell Tokyo Samurai
Alik Magin Tokyo Samurai
Luke Davis Tokyo Samurai
Andrew Collins Tokyo Samurai
Jacob Townsend Tokyo Samurai
Lewis Moss Tokyo Samurai
Derick Wanganeen Tokyo Samurai
Jonathon Patton Tokyo Samurai
Jackson Merrett Tokyo Samurai
Nicholas O'Brien Tokyo Samurai
Tom Campbell Tokyo Samurai
Jackson Sheringham Tokyo Samurai
Hal Hunter Tokyo Samurai
Callum Papertalk Tokyo Samurai
Jack Redpath Tokyo Samurai
Scott Pendlebury Toronto Wolves
Andrew Swallow Toronto Wolves
Paddy Ryder Toronto Wolves
Sam Fisher Toronto Wolves
Robbie Gray Toronto Wolves
Jack Riewoldt Toronto Wolves
Darren Jolly Toronto Wolves
Jack Ziebell Toronto Wolves
Andrew Carrazzo Toronto Wolves
Michael Jamison Toronto Wolves
Cameron Pedersen Toronto Wolves
Angus Monfries Toronto Wolves
Nathan Grima Toronto Wolves
Andrew Embley Toronto Wolves
David Hale Toronto Wolves
Michael Johnson Toronto Wolves
Ben Cunnington Toronto Wolves
Ashley McGrath Toronto Wolves
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Sam Butler Toronto Wolves
Kieran Harper Toronto Wolves
Sam Wright Toronto Wolves
Clinton Jones Toronto Wolves
Josh Toy Toronto Wolves
Jaime MacMillan Toronto Wolves
Levi Greenwood Toronto Wolves
Aaron Davey Toronto Wolves
Ben Johnson Toronto Wolves
Jesse White Toronto Wolves
Ben Hudson Toronto Wolves
Matt Shaw Toronto Wolves
Benjamin Speight Toronto Wolves
Jacob Surjan Toronto Wolves
Aaron Joseph Toronto Wolves
Jesse Crichton Toronto Wolves
Matt Maguire Toronto Wolves
Jacob Gillbee Toronto Wolves
Tom Hickey Toronto Wolves
Taylor Hine Toronto Wolves
Sam Martyn Toronto Wolves
Tom Curran Toronto Wolves
Jordan Kelly Toronto Wolves
Aaron Hall Toronto Wolves
Justin Clarke Toronto Wolves
Tom Bell Toronto Wolves
Frazer Dale Toronto Wolves
Marc Murphy Wellington Warriors
Hamish McIntosh Wellington Warriors
Jed Adcock Wellington Warriors
Lenny Hayes Wellington Warriors
Robin Nahas Wellington Warriors
Isaac Smith Wellington Warriors
Nathan Foley Wellington Warriors
Adam Schneider Wellington Warriors
Joel Corey Wellington Warriors
Josh Drummond Wellington Warriors
Tendai Mzungu Wellington Warriors
Brad Green Wellington Warriors
Taylor Walker Wellington Warriors
Michael Doughty Wellington Warriors
Jonathan Giles Wellington Warriors
Patrick Karnezis Wellington Warriors
Reece Conca Wellington Warriors
Leroy Jetta Wellington Warriors
Thomas Bugg Wellington Warriors
Mitch Golby Wellington Warriors
Gerrick Weedon Wellington Warriors
Campbell Brown Wellington Warriors
Travis Colyer Wellington Warriors
Liam Picken Wellington Warriors
Ben McKinley Wellington Warriors
Rohan Bewick Wellington Warriors
Luke McGuane Wellington Warriors
Ryan Lester Wellington Warriors
Niall McKeever Wellington Warriors
Jack Fitzpatrick Wellington Warriors
Aaron Cornelius Wellington Warriors
Luke Rounds Wellington Warriors
Dennis Armfield Wellington Warriors
James Hawksley Wellington Warriors
Joel Patfull Wellington Warriors
Mitchell Curnow Wellington Warriors
Sam Shaw Wellington Warriors
Jeremy McGovern Wellington Warriors
Patrick Wearden Wellington Warriors
Andrew Boseley Wellington Warriors
Jack Crisp Wellington Warriors
Gibson Turner Wellington Warriors
Sam Menegola Wellington Warriors
Jordan Staley Wellington Warriors
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
One coach remaining, but all other trades have passed.
No idea how Trade 69 passed! Let's follow this logic....
Pick 10 was traded for Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Pick 10 + Aaron Young = Pick 7
Pick 10 + Jack Hombsch = Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
Pick 10 = Brandon Ellis
So I guess it is a good think that trade passed, or else all those other ones would have failed.
Good to know that Brandon Ellis is equivalent to Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White. Really, it is................ Perhaps that is why it passed, because so many other trades were dependent on it.
Makes you wonder how the Zorko trade was rejected and these got through.... ::)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 10:36:05 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
One coach remaining, but all other trades have passed.
No idea how Trade 69 passed! Let's follow this logic....
Pick 10 was traded for Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Pick 10 + Aaron Young = Pick 7
Pick 10 + Jack Hombsch = Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
Pick 10 = Brandon Ellis
So I guess it is a good think that trade passed, or else all those other ones would have failed.
Good to know that Brandon Ellis is equivalent to Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White. Really, it is................ Perhaps that is why it passed, because so many other trades were dependent on it.
Makes you wonder how the Zorko trade was rejected and these got through.... ::)
Agree here I was surprised it got through as well. Seems to be no real logic being used when looking at approving or rejecting trades. IMO there were 3 dubious trades and one lineball this week but only one rejected.
I'm very disappointed in how the trade period has worked.
I will rally hard to get it changed for the next one, but you can't change rules mid-stream.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
One coach remaining, but all other trades have passed.
No idea how Trade 69 passed! Let's follow this logic....
Pick 10 was traded for Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Pick 10 + Aaron Young = Pick 7
Pick 10 + Jack Hombsch = Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
Pick 10 = Brandon Ellis
So I guess it is a good think that trade passed, or else all those other ones would have failed.
Good to know that Brandon Ellis is equivalent to Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White. Really, it is................ Perhaps that is why it passed, because so many other trades were dependent on it.
At least I neg'd it :D
You'd have to agree I'm a pretty good neg'er (not to be typo'd with the i version) when it comes to trades. :o
I think I neg'd 5 this week... so probably hit all 3 you wanted neg'd and the lineball trade... unless they were my own ;)
Don't worry about what happened in 2012. Those averages don't mean a thing.
Ibbo is the only player of any real value in trade 69.
Black is likely to be the sub for a lot of games next season. Unlikely to have a good average.
Matt White will struggle to get games. He could hardly get into Richmond's team this year and they have just recruited a player who plays in his spot. Fringe player at best.
Mattner is an old man who is never given any roles as a rebounding defender anymore.
We're meant to object to trades that we think are MAJORLY unfair. I don't think this was horrendous.
Quote from: meow meow on October 02, 2012, 12:50:21 PM
Don't worry about what happened in 2012. Those averages don't mean a thing.
Ibbo is the only player of any real value in trade 69.
Black is likely to be the sub for a lot of games next season. Unlikely to have a good average.
Matt White will struggle to get games. He could hardly get into Richmond's team this year and they have just recruited a player who plays in his spot. Fringe player at best.
Mattner is an old man who is never given any roles as a rebounding defender anymore.
We're meant to object to trades that we think are MAJORLY unfair. I don't think this was horrendous.
I was thinking this two. I would rather have pick 10 and ellis over those 4. You wouldnt want to be playing black next year after what voss said and the other 2 are very average. Ellis I can see easily better than Ibbo.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
One coach remaining, but all other trades have passed.
No idea how Trade 69 passed! Let's follow this logic....
Pick 10 was traded for Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White
Pick 10 + Aaron Young = Pick 7
Pick 10 + Jack Hombsch = Brodie Smith, Mitch Brown and Ben Sinclair
Pick 10 = Brandon Ellis
So I guess it is a good think that trade passed, or else all those other ones would have failed.
Good to know that Brandon Ellis is equivalent to Garrick Ibbotson, Simon Black, Martin Mattner and Matthew White. Really, it is................ Perhaps that is why it passed, because so many other trades were dependent on it.
So you think Ellis is worth far more? or far less? ???
I think Ellis is worth Pick 10, I don't think Pick 10 is worth those 4 players. You'd be kidding yourself if any AFL team would make that trade.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 04:27:37 PM
I think Ellis is worth Pick 10, I don't think Pick 10 is worth those 4 players. You'd be kidding yourself if any AFL team would make that trade.
Black is useless with 1 year left as a sub. Mattner is a pensioner, may even retire after that premiership. White is fringe.
Ibbo is a good talent, but his inconsistency annoys me.
Plus I freed up points for the stupid points cap!
So I'm pretty happy :P
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Was there an easy way you worked this out? Because i was thinking of doing something similar for Asians but it looked like a lot of work?
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Was there an easy way you worked this out? Because i was thinking of doing something similar for Asians but it looked like a lot of work?
My awesome spreadsheet of awesomeness does all the hard work for me. You would need round by round statistics for every player basically.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Was there an easy way you worked this out? Because i was thinking of doing something similar for Asians but it looked like a lot of work?
Don't see how it could be implemented for Asians this year...
Punishing teams for drafting awesome is a bit rough. It's not my club's fault everyone else went young ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 04:50:08 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Was there an easy way you worked this out? Because i was thinking of doing something similar for Asians but it looked like a lot of work?
My awesome spreadsheet of awesomeness does all the hard work for me. You would need round by round statistics for every player basically.
I'm 2nd closest to the cap? wow.
I dont think it means you'll come 2nd Nails :P
Quote from: Nails on October 02, 2012, 04:55:52 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 02, 2012, 04:47:13 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 10:06:15 AM
Points cap (includes all delistings and retirements - i.e. Luke Power has retired, but his points still count towards the cap until he's officially delisted).
Beijing - 22,806
Berlin - 25,073
Buenos Aires - 32,230
Cairo - 29,870
Cape Town - 26,877
Dublin - 22,821
London - 28,798
Mexico City - 29,614
Moscow - 27,829
New Delhi - 26,359
New York - 26,724
Pacific - 19,393
PNL - 29,316
Sao Paulo - 31,831
Seoul - 31,665
Tokyo - 32,543
Toronto - 31,318
Wellington - 29,482
Was there an easy way you worked this out? Because i was thinking of doing something similar for Asians but it looked like a lot of work?
Don't see how it could be implemented for Asians this year...
Punishing teams for drafting awesome is a bit rough. It's not my club's fault everyone else went young ;)
Yea well even if i did get all the numbers it wouldnt be fair to implement this year and it was just going to be thrown out there as i think there should be a minimum and maximum cap to stop tanking/overloading on oldies.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 02, 2012, 04:57:33 PM
I dont think it means you'll come 2nd Nails :P
I was middle of the pack before last week though... like 8th-10th... forgot where exactly... but a couple trades and BOOM :o
Tokyo trades Phil Davis + Jonathon Patton to PNL for pick 4 + pick 23.
Reason: Patton is too long term & this was the only offer that got near what he is worth in the long run. Davis I can afford to lose after gaining a few other defenders.
Quote from: Boomz on October 02, 2012, 05:13:27 PM
Tokyo trades Phil Davis + Jonathon Patton to PNL for pick 4 + pick 23.
Reason: Patton is too long term & this was the only offer that got near what he is worth in the long run. Davis I can afford to lose after gaining a few other defenders.
Accepted :). Was a fairly quick and painless process as well!
Reason: We rate those picks quite highly, and only left for last season's #1 Pick and the co-captain of GWS. Davis has quite good Job Security and is still young, and will fit nicely into PNL's youth policy, with the potential to score more (for the #23 we traded him for). Yes this draft is touted highly, but as we need forwards, Patton should score well once he gets over his injuries and GWS keep lifting their game. Basically just swapping youngsters!
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Confirmed.
Hocking can average well but took a massive step back this year and looks like he is stuck tagging while now getting less of it himself. Ross has a lot of potential and should start getting games.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
You have like 30 midfielders :P
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
You have like 30 midfielders :P
A lot of depth then. :P
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
You have like 30 midfielders :P
A lot of depth then. :P
Deeper than the
Pacific Ocean ;)
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
You have like 30 midfielders :P
A lot of depth then. :P
Deeper than the Pacific Ocean ;)
Oh RB, your wit knows no bounds. :P
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 08:15:51 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:14:28 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 08:08:26 PM
Quote from: roo boys! on October 02, 2012, 08:07:35 PM
Quote from: c4v3m4n on October 02, 2012, 07:59:39 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 02, 2012, 06:41:13 PM
Seoul trades Seb Ross + Pick 47 for Heath Hocking from Tokyo
I'm after some midfield depth, Hocking fits nicely
Ossie, Islanders have midfield depth too, should have shopped around :P
You have like 30 midfielders :P
A lot of depth then. :P
Deeper than the Pacific Ocean ;)
Oh RB, your wit knows no bounds. :P
I do my best :P
In our search for young talant we want to take a risk on a player who's career has be flopped by injuries so far, but he is only 22 and the Brother of a superstar so
the Bears trade National pick 48
to get from Tokyo Nevell Jetta
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 03, 2012, 11:22:51 AM
In our search for young talant we want to take a risk on a player who's career has be flopped by injuries so far, but he is only 22 and the Brother of a superstar so
the Bears trade National pick 48
to get from Tokyo Nevell Jetta
Confirmed
Don't need Jetta & pick 48 will be handy.
Nev may be on the chopping block for Melbourne :-X
Otherwise, it is a risk that may well pull off
Trade between the Cobras and The London Royals:
Cobras give:
Sam Iles + Pick 36
Royals give:
Jeff Garlett
Reason:
We've got plenty of midfielders, and Iles wasn't in our best 15.
I like Garlett, he's young and should improve... Needed another forward too, just incase some of our players lose their DPP...
Confirmed - Taking a risk somewhat with Iles but he averages 96 so would be a great bench player for the Royals and pick 36 comes in handy. Sorry to lose Garlett but his form can be up and down.
Trade between the Bears and Spetsnaz
Spetsnaz give
Sam Kerridge, NAT pick 21
Bears give
NAT picks 14, 30
We desprerately need to add some good young players and Sam only playing one game but has a future and the Spetsnaz have plenty of young mids
Waiting on Meow Meow
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 07:31:59 AM
Trade between the Bears and Spetsnaz
Spetsnaz give
Sam Kerridge, NAT pick 21
Bears give
NAT picks 14, 30
We desprerately need to add some good young players and Sam only playing one game but has a future and the Spetsnaz have plenty of young mids
Waiting on Meow Meow
Confirmed.
Reason: I think i could get a better mid than Kerridge with #14. The swapping of picks evens things out.
Another minor trade between Moscow Spetsnaz and London Royals.
London Trade Fraser McInness
Moscow give Tom Young, Nathan Wilson and Pick 77
Reasoning McInness has not yet played and was possibly on our players to be- delisted list whereas Young and Wilson have both played and showed some promise both youngsters who will assist our team over the coming years. Pick is just a bonus given we do not have too many later picks.
Quote from: Ringo on October 04, 2012, 11:41:38 AM
Another minor trade between Moscow Spetsnaz and London Royals.
London Trade Fraser McInness
Moscow give Tom Young, Nathan Wilson and Pick 77
Reasoning McInness has not yet played and was possibly on our players to be- delisted list whereas Young and Wilson have both played and showed some promise both youngsters who will assist our team over the coming years. Pick is just a bonus given we do not have too many later picks.
Confirmed. I think McInnes has a bright future and he'll be good cover if Darling misses games for whatever reason.
Wellington give: Joel Corey
Seoul give: Shannon Byrnes, pre season draft pick 10
Reasoning i needed another forward and with byrnes most likely going to melbourne he should be getting a regualr game next year, Joel corey is getting rather old now and probably wouldnt be able to fit into the warriors starting lineup so i was happy to dispose of him with the pre season draft pick evening it up
Wellington give: pick 31
Sao Paulo give: Rory Thompson
I was looking for a young backup defender and i think rory thompson is just what i could be looking for as he is still young and showed good potential last year before injuries struck him down, and i think pick 31 is a fair deal for him
Quote from: pothead on October 04, 2012, 02:17:20 PM
Wellington give: Joel Corey
Seoul give: Shannon Byrnes, pre season draft pick 10
Reasoning i needed another forward and with byrnes most likely going to melbourne he should be getting a regualr game next year, Joel corey is getting rather old now and probably wouldnt be able to fit into the warriors starting lineup so i was happy to dispose of him with the pre season draft pick evening it up
Confirmed. With the likely departure of Bolton, need an old head. Had plans for Byrnes, but feel this is better.
Quote from: pothead on October 04, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
Wellington give: pick 31
Sao Paulo give: Rory Thompson
I was looking for a young backup defender and i think rory thompson is just what i could be looking for as he is still young and showed good potential last year before injuries struck him down, and i think pick 31 is a fair deal for him
I think you may be overpaying.
Quote from: pothead on October 04, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
Wellington give: pick 31
Sao Paulo give: Rory Thompson
I was looking for a young backup defender and i think rory thompson is just what i could be looking for as he is still young and showed good potential last year before injuries struck him down, and i think pick 31 is a fair deal for him
Confirmed. If Hartlett and Harwood are given defense status next year, which they really should be, then I would have 16 defenders on my list. So needed to get rid of a couple so Thompson goes as he would be behind at least 6 or 7 other defenders and probably wouldn't get many games with me. Happy enough with a second round pick for him :)
Bears to give Nat pick 59
Warriors to give Aaron Cornelius
We simply need to take risks on un proven players to get some kind of depth
Quote from: Maca24 on October 04, 2012, 04:02:15 PM
Quote from: pothead on October 04, 2012, 02:22:42 PM
Wellington give: pick 31
Sao Paulo give: Rory Thompson
I was looking for a young backup defender and i think rory thompson is just what i could be looking for as he is still young and showed good potential last year before injuries struck him down, and i think pick 31 is a fair deal for him
I think you may be overpaying.
A 21 year old defender averaging in the mid 60's. I wouldn't say it's an overpay at all.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 04:10:26 PM
Bears to give Nat pick 59
Warriors to give Aaron Cornelius
We simply need to take risks on un proven players to get some kind of depth
FML.
If I had have known Cornelius was going this cheap I would've given up pick 51, 52 or 56 in a heartbeat. He's a jet to be.
Tbag don't wreck BB's team haha. Because you rate Kerridge highly, doesn't mean you should pick him...
Trade with the Bears and the Brewers
Brewers trade Lachie Neal
Bears give NAT pick 29
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 04, 2012, 06:17:07 PM
Trade with the Bears and the Brewers
Brewers trade Lachie Neal
Bears give NAT pick 29
Confirmed
Have a fair few good-ish mids now, so Neale wasn't really required. Although I do rate him, Pick 29 will be handy for future trading ;)
Small deal was reached between P77 and myself quite a while ago, and told Purps I'd wait to see if my potential suitor was still keen on 44 and even if they don't take it I don't mind this deal.
Toronto Trades: Pick 50 + Pick 71
Berlin Trades: Pick 44
Reasoning: Like I said, hoping to on-trade pick 44. Slight upgrade can help in trade negotiations I've found! Also means 1 less player to delist for me.
Confirmed.
More picks means I get more spuds out, and more guns in 8)
Sorry for the big delay guys, we have all 18 coaches votes in:
Trade N
65 0
66 0
67 1
68 0
69 4
70 0
71 1
72 0
73 0
74 8
75 2
76 1
77 1
78 1
79 0
80 0
81 0
82 0
83 1
The Zorko trade votes against: bomberboy0618, FisherSaints, Hellopplz, MajorLazer, meow meow, ossie85, Purple 77, roo boys!
Reasons - Gibson is old and hasn't shown potential, Wood might be delisted and the pick does not get near the value of Zorko
I didn't go against my trade
Quote from: FisherSaints on October 05, 2012, 09:00:24 AM
I didn't go against my trade
^ your assistant did, and you didn't vote...
Ah OK
I've gotta be honest, some of the deals Tbag has done are a bit dodgy.
Considering you're the head coach I reckon you could say they don't count ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 05, 2012, 12:25:35 PM
Considering you're the head coach I reckon you could say they don't count ;)
Disagree, if bomberboy gave tbag the right to do some trading, then the same rules should apply. Both parties need to cancel the trade.
If bomberboy didn't give him the right though, then all trades are null and void.
I think that's fair?
Yeah that's fair. Considering BB was going away till friday if he had said something like "get some trades done whilst I'm gone" then they should count, but if he said something like "see if you can work out some possible trades whilst I'm gone" then they shouldn't count...
Quote from: ossie85 on October 05, 2012, 12:28:58 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 05, 2012, 12:25:35 PM
Considering you're the head coach I reckon you could say they don't count ;)
Disagree, if bomberboy gave tbag the right to do some trading, then the same rules should apply. Both parties need to cancel the trade.
If bomberboy didn't give him the right though, then all trades are null and void.
I think that's fair?
I got him to fill the role I would have, which is to make some trades yes.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 05, 2012, 08:48:40 AM
Sorry for the big delay guys, we have all 18 coaches votes in:
Trade N
65 0
66 0
67 1
68 0
69 4
70 0
71 1
72 0
73 0
74 8
75 2
76 1
77 1
78 1
79 0
80 0
81 0
82 0
83 1
The Zorko trade votes against: bomberboy0618, FisherSaints, Hellopplz, MajorLazer, meow meow, ossie85, Purple 77, roo boys!
Reasons - Gibson is old and hasn't shown potential, Wood might be delisted and the pick does not get near the value of Zorko
Thought I voted against it? :-X
Yeah you did, sorry Boomz!
Ringo and I have reached a deal over Sidey giving us the best for our future.
London gives: Laird, Gorringe and Mackie
Beijing gives: Sidebottom
Reason: We are going for the future, and Laird and Gorringe have potential. Mackie has experience so will score well.
Pretty sure the deal I offered you was better than that...
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 06, 2012, 10:51:59 AM
Ringo and I have reached a deal over Sidey giving us the best for our future.
London gives: Laird, Gorringe and Mackie
Beijing gives: Sidebottom
Reason: We are going for the future, and Laird and Gorringe have potential. Mackie has experience so will score well.
Confirmed
Reasoning - Opportunity arose to acquire a premium player which the Royals desperately need and Sidebottom fills this role. Maybe even Captain material for the Royals as he is still relatively young.
To gain a premium there will be sacrifices and in this regard we are sorry to be losing Mackie a very consistent backman. Laird an up and coming defender and Gorringe who looks to be starting to fulfill his promise. These three players for a player of Sidebottom class is considered fair.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 06, 2012, 07:02:28 AM
Yeah you did, sorry Boomz!
No problem just checking I'm not going mad :P
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
Pretty sure the deal I offered you was better than that...
I have no record of this deal...
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 06, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
Pretty sure the deal I offered you was better than that...
I have no record of this deal...
Sent it to tbag when he announced on Tuesday that Sidey was up for trade. Said he would discuss it with you when you got back ::)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2012, 11:48:41 AM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 06, 2012, 11:15:52 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 06, 2012, 11:08:00 AM
Pretty sure the deal I offered you was better than that...
I have no record of this deal...
Sent it to tbag when he announced on Tuesday that Sidey was up for trade. Said he would discuss it with you when you got back ::)
Same with me. ::)
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 06, 2012, 10:51:59 AM
Ringo and I have reached a deal over Sidey giving us the best for our future.
London gives: Laird, Gorringe and Mackie
Beijing gives: Sidebottom
Reason: We are going for the future, and Laird and Gorringe have potential. Mackie has experience so will score well.
Are you kidding me? Me and tbag were in talks for Sidebottom and he said he'd pass it on to you... I never heard back? How can you just go on and make a deal like that.
Seem like you did it to others as well...
Guys lay off BB. You had the same opportunity I did. When I seen he was back I immediately started to re affirm what I originally offered for Sidey via Tbag and we came to an agreement. You all could have all done the same.
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I don't understand why not. :P
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 07, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I don't understand why not. :P
My psychic powers are not fully developed yet. :(
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:46:05 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 07, 2012, 08:42:58 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I don't understand why not. :P
My psychic powers are not fully developed yet. :(
Fair enough.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I gave my offer to tbag, and he said he will pass them on to you ::) I guess I should be more mad at tbag, but it still makes me angry how someone can be such a poor trader.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
"Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best."
So? Maybe,let me know and maybe I'd like to improve my offer? Isn't that how trading works?
"Maybe yours wasn't good enough."
I highly doubt that... Infact ours was quite over the top and favoured you by a mile :P I can PM you our offer if you like...
In the end, you are the one who is losing out. I guess I'm just upset because so far into trading people are still doing these sorts of things...
Wow that trade is bad, I wish people in British and Asians were that easy to rip off :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 07, 2012, 10:18:48 PM
Wow that trade is bad, I wish people in British and Asians were that easy to rip off :P
Same. :P
After quite a fair bit of negotiating about this one Holz and I have reached a deal!
Toronto Gives: Robbie Gray and Kieran Harper
Dublin Gives: NAT Draft Pick 5 and Tommy Walsh
Reasoning: Harps Absolutely devastated to lose on of my faces but I have to try and eliminate bias in my trading and this is the first step. Gray is a big loss but pick 5 is important for me, you'll see why in a minute, on trading FTW
Walsh is ok and I needed to pick up a backup forward after just giving up 2. He may stay, he may be traded it's hard to tell yet.
Now not sure if this is allowed or not but Holz has told me that he might not be able to get on tonight but he auto-accepts this trade as we want it to be voted on in this group not a week's time. I have a few quotes from PMs I can post in a sec if needed?
Toronto Gives: Andrew Carrazzo and Nat Draft Pick 5
Buenos Aires Gives: Mitch Robinson and Dan Nicholson
Though this trade is CONDITIONAL on the trade between Afev and I passing...
Reasoning: Whilst we feel with Mitch Robinson's age and potential he is significantly better and worth more than Carrazzo...
Though we feel pick 5 is greater than Nicholson which we can on trade anyway.
New York Gives: Dean Cox and Nat Draft Pick 75
Buenos Aires Gives: Josh Jenkins and Nat Draft Pick 5
Reasoning: Whilst we see Josh Jenkins as having a bright, bright future, we see Dean Cox as the best option to help lead us to a premiership next season and is one we require.
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2012, 12:27:18 AM
New York Gives: Dean Cox and Nat Draft Pick 75
Buenos Aires Gives: Josh Jenkins and Nat Draft Pick 5
Reasoning: Whilst we see Josh Jenkins as having a bright, bright future, we see Dean Cox as the best option to help lead us to a premiership next season and is one we require.
Confirmed
ReasoningCox is 31 and is likely going to be retiring before our team starts to become competitive. Makes sense to trade him out for a good young ruckman that I can count on to be around when our team starts pushing for finals.
5 is for on trade.
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2012, 12:25:38 AM
Toronto Gives: Andrew Carrazzo and Nat Draft Pick 5
Buenos Aires Gives: Mitch Robinson and Dan Nicholson
Though this trade is CONDITIONAL on the trade between Afev and I passing...
Confirmed. I also agree to the condition.
Reasoning: Carrots while being as gun as he is is a little old for my liking but suits Nails plan perfectly. Nicholson I really rate and allows me to trade away another defender but that one may be a few more days away. Robbo replaces the void left by Gray.
Wellington trade: Jonathan Giles
New York trade: Pick 5
Reasoning: I already have McIntosh so i already have an accomplished ruckman and pick 5 should be able to get me quite a good trade in the draft or if i trade it on
Quote from: pothead on October 08, 2012, 12:31:17 AM
Wellington trade: Jonathan Giles
New York trade: Pick 5
Reasoning: I already have McIntosh so i already have an accomplished ruckman and pick 5 should be able to get me quite a good trade in the draft or if i trade it on
Confirmed.
ReasoningWell I don't want to rely on Jenkins and Pyke knowing how often the big blokes go down so adding Giles to the ruck department is great for our list.
Now very confident with out rucks having Lycett, Pyke, Giles and Jenkins.
As I'm sure a lot of you know I don't place a lot of value on picks so this was always for ontrade and I feel this was a good move for list balance.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 08, 2012, 12:22:40 AM
After quite a fair bit of negotiating about this one Holz and I have reached a deal!
Toronto Gives: Robbie Gray and Kieran Harper
Dublin Gives: NAT Draft Pick 5 and Tommy Walsh
Reasoning: Harps Absolutely devastated to lose on of my faces but I have to try and eliminate bias in my trading and this is the first step. Gray is a big loss but pick 5 is important for me, you'll see why in a minute, on trading FTW
Walsh is ok and I needed to pick up a backup forward after just giving up 2. He may stay, he may be traded it's hard to tell yet.
Now not sure if this is allowed or not but Holz has told me that he might not be able to get on tonight but he auto-accepts this trade as we want it to be voted on in this group not a week's time. I have a few quotes from PMs I can post in a sec if needed?
I agree while pick 5 will get me a potential gun, Gray averaged 92 last year and if he can do that again he will already be elite. Only 24 and should be peaking when my team is decent in a year or two. He is a big injury risk so is probably worth less than 5 but if he stays fit thats a win there. Harper is to make up with Grays injury chance, While his average was terrible this year he was 65 without the vests and should be low 70s next year. Great backup when gray goes down. Tommy walsh is good if he plays but i simply dont need him after picking up 2 forwards.
If gray goes down injured and pick 5 turns into a gun terrible trade. Gray somehow stays fit and pick 5 turns into tambling 2.0 and big win. We will see next year if this is a good or bad move.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
Your offer was discussed Q, we were trying to work out going purely youth or get a senior in!
After lots of discussion, Toronto and New Delhi have struck a deal.
Toronto trade: Sam Fisher + Angus Monfries + NAT pick 61
New Delhi trade: Jordan Murdoch
Reasoning: Murdoch played one year of footy, played very well and showed a lot of promise. Fisher has 3 years left in him and Monfries could either play well at Port or play terrible. I'm hoping that he will play well. The pick is just a bit extra
Quote from: FisherSaints on October 08, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
After lots of discussion, Toronto and New Delhi have struck a deal.
Toronto trade: Sam Fisher + Angus Monfries + NAT pick 61
New Delhi trade: Jordan Murdoch
Reasoning: Murdoch played one year of footy, played very well and showed a lot of promise. Fisher has 3 years left in him and Monfries could either play well at Port or play terrible. I'm hoping that he will play well. The pick is just a bit extra
Confirmed
Reasoning: I really rate Murdoch, I think he'll be a gun. Not sure if he's staying at Toronto or being on-traded just yet but either way I'm happy to have obtained his services. Fisher was no longer needed with me picking up Nicholson last night and now I'm desperately hoping that Monfries doesn't have the breakout year like many have predicted :-\ Like FS said, the pick was just extra to get the deal across the line.
New deal between Cairo and Wellington.
Cairo gives: Sean Dempster, Andrew Krakouer and Pick 42.
Wellington gives: Jed Adcock.
Reason: I feel that I need a bit nor firepower in the backline and although giving away some of my depth, the firepower is more important than the depth.
The trade etiquette here is incredibly bad.
You coaches need to realise we have months of trading period. So when someone is off for a few hours, and find players they have been negotiating for have been traded out without letting them know, that's just poor.
Some of the trades are ridiculous. Some of you are clearly are either being very stupid, or simply don't care that you are ruining the quality of the competition.
Some of you lack honour and integrity. You must be aware you are making trades that are very one sided your way.
Some of you don't respect the voting, and are letting votes pass because you won't your own trades to go through.
Some of you don't reply to offers, will say 'I'll run it past my assistants' and then I never hear from you again.
I'm very close to resigning. And I hate that feeling, because enjoyed year 1 immensely.
I wanted everybody to have an equal say in matters, and have let just about every rule go up for vote.
This is looking like it was a mistake.
Yeah agree Ossie some of the trades being made are ridiculous! I'll admit I've been pretty poor at times in regards to getting back to people who have expressed interest in a player before making a trade but I'll try to be better in the future.
What I don't get is why the majority of the teams have all decided to go the youth approach and in doing so are just trading their so called old players to maca strengthening his team even more. This is not meant as offense to maca as he is sticking to a strategy and making it work for him, but everyone is pretty much just handing him the cup for the nex few seasons...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
Yeah agree Ossie some of the trades being made are ridiculous! I'll admit I've been pretty poor at times in regards to getting back to people who have expressed interest in a player before making a trade but I'll try to be better in the future.
What I don't get is why the majority of the teams have all decided to go the youth approach and in doing so are just trading their so called old players to maca strengthening his team even more. This is not meant as offense to maca as he is sticking to a strategy and making it work for him, but everyone is pretty much just handing him the cup for the nex few seasons...
Maca has to get beat me first ;) My team has become pretty solid CF. :o Though I still feel Maca has it on depth.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2012, 12:19:35 PM
Yeah agree Ossie some of the trades being made are ridiculous! I'll admit I've been pretty poor at times in regards to getting back to people who have expressed interest in a player before making a trade but I'll try to be better in the future.
What I don't get is why the majority of the teams have all decided to go the youth approach and in doing so are just trading their so called old players to maca strengthening his team even more. This is not meant as offense to maca as he is sticking to a strategy and making it work for him, but everyone is pretty much just handing him the cup for the nex few seasons...
I don't understand why if you have a youth policy you would trade Sidebottom, he's what 21 and already pretty much super premo
Yeah that also confused me JB ::)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2012, 02:30:08 PM
Yeah that also confused me JB ::)
What confused me is the only half decent player they received (and he isn't that brilliant) is 28...
I know we weren't mentioned at all but just going into defence mode - We were going for the youth route from the very start. ;D
RESET ALL LISTS TO HOW THEY WERE AT THE END OF THE WXV SEASON.
TRADING IS KILLING THE GAME!
INTRODUCE TRADE RESTRICTIONS.
Quote from: FisherSaints on October 08, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
After lots of discussion, Toronto and New Delhi have struck a deal.
Toronto trade: Sam Fisher + Angus Monfries + NAT pick 61
New Delhi trade: Jordan Murdoch
Reasoning: Murdoch played one year of footy, played very well and showed a lot of promise. Fisher has 3 years left in him and Monfries could either play well at Port or play terrible. I'm hoping that he will play well. The pick is just a bit extra
What is this for a trade? I see Monfries better than Murdoch and fisher and a pick are already on the better half.
Quote from: Reason on October 08, 2012, 03:13:21 PM
RESET ALL LISTS TO HOW THEY WERE AT THE END OF THE WXV SEASON.
TRADING IS KILLING THE GAME!
INTRODUCE TRADE RESTRICTIONS.
what was that?
Can't guests not post??
Someone from the comp isn't happy so they logged in as guest to make that post...
PB perhaps? lol
Quote from: Nails on October 08, 2012, 03:56:52 PM
PB perhaps? lol
Hahahahahaha that made me laugh lolz
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 08, 2012, 05:25:24 AM
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All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
Your offer was discussed Q, we were trying to work out going purely youth or get a senior in!
Ummmm... I don't see how that has got to do with anything. Read my last few posts a few times, maybe that will help you understand the situation ::)
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I totally agree with Os and CF... People are rushing trades ::)
Agree that some coaches are rushing trades - But bear in mind some coaches have average teams and are looking for opportunities to improve teams as they arise.
CF for the record my trades are based on improving team first with team structure a close second so at this stage have not had any trades with Macca,
We still have 6 weeks of trading left before we need to finalise lists so a lot of trading can still happen.
I've had numerous people not trade with me for the reason they don't want to improve my team :P
@nails - I think you are way off personally.
I still have 11 coaches to go, but already Trade 95 (Sidebottom) has failed.
7/7 negs?! Wow!!!
Could be 6 out of 7 maca ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 08, 2012, 05:51:44 PM
Could be 6 out of 7 maca ;)
Hence why I posted a question mark! :p
Quote from: ossie85 on October 08, 2012, 09:45:05 AM
You coaches need to realise we have months of trading period. So when someone is off for a few hours, and find players they have been negotiating for have been traded out without letting them know, that's just poor.
This!
Thought it common sense? Yet it has happened to me at least 4 times
I stand by my trades...... beside the moloney one :P.
Brent Moloney looks good in a Mexico Guernsey :)
I don't know if this could be directed at me, but I feel like I have really improved my team this trade period and only really am regretting one trade I have made and it wasn't the worst thing possible to do.
Just to let everyone know so they don't get pissed off at me, Leigh Adams is available. ;)
I don't regret one :)
If you regret more than 1 trade then I think it's your own fault. Who does a trade they dont like? ???
I regret my trade with Grimey... Although at the time it seemed good.
I thought somebody would be more willing to trade me a defender :P
Quote from: MajorLazer on October 08, 2012, 06:08:38 PM
I don't know if this could be directed at me, but I feel like I have really improved my team this trade period and only really am regretting one trade I have made and it wasn't the worst thing possible to do.
Just to let everyone know so they don't get pissed off at me, Leigh Adams is available. ;)
Hopefully not for long :-X :P
I agree to an extent with the points raised, I think that everyone is rushing to get trades done because all the good players will be gone if they sit back and watch.
Quote from: whatlez on October 08, 2012, 03:15:07 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on October 08, 2012, 08:09:29 AM
After lots of discussion, Toronto and New Delhi have struck a deal.
Toronto trade: Sam Fisher + Angus Monfries + NAT pick 61
New Delhi trade: Jordan Murdoch
Reasoning: Murdoch played one year of footy, played very well and showed a lot of promise. Fisher has 3 years left in him and Monfries could either play well at Port or play terrible. I'm hoping that he will play well. The pick is just a bit extra
What is this for a trade? I see Monfries better than Murdoch and fisher and a pick are already on the better half.
I'm not stoked with it either but desperate times call for desperate measures...Murdoch was about to be traded to someone else and I felt that I needed an attention grabbing offer to prevent the other trade from going through. If it's that bad it'll get neg'd and I'm fine with that.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 08, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
I still have 11 coaches to go, but already Trade 95 (Sidebottom) has failed.
I also just want to make a point now that Ringo and BB have 48 hours to re-negotiate amongst themselves before others are able to re-offer for Sidey. I respected this rule with Zorko, others didn't so I hope that this time everyone can respect it.
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
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Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
"Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best."
So? Maybe,let me know and maybe I'd like to improve my offer? Isn't that how trading works?
"Maybe yours wasn't good enough."
I highly doubt that... Infact ours was quite over the top and favoured you by a mile :P I can PM you our offer if you like...
In the end, you are the one who is losing out. I guess I'm just upset because so far into trading people are still doing these sorts of things...
You could stop complaining and message me now. Still no PM...
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 08, 2012, 10:04:44 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 10:17:03 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 09:37:18 PM
Quote from: Master Q on October 07, 2012, 08:52:25 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 07, 2012, 08:49:43 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 07, 2012, 08:39:11 PM
All of you can stick it. I dealt with all the offers I RECEIVED. I can't predict your offers.
I think most people are more annoyed with tbag for saying he would pass on the offers and then never did ;)
And wouldn't you ask your assistant if he got any offers while you are away? If you don't, what is the point of appointing someone to manage your team?
Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best. Maybe yours wasn't good enough.
"Because he sent me a couple of offers which he thought was the best."
So? Maybe,let me know and maybe I'd like to improve my offer? Isn't that how trading works?
"Maybe yours wasn't good enough."
I highly doubt that... Infact ours was quite over the top and favoured you by a mile :P I can PM you our offer if you like...
In the end, you are the one who is losing out. I guess I'm just upset because so far into trading people are still doing these sorts of things...
You could stop complaining and message me now. Still no PM...
"I can PM you our offer if you like..."
I wanted an answer :P
Yeah I'm sorry guess I messed up! Lesson learned and will be careful not to forget anyone in future
Why are you still considering trading sidey? The youth route is fine but you will need captain material to lead you to a premiership because you have no idea how untried players will score so you cant count on them, youth policies should be under 25s not under 20s if you have a 25 year old you have minimum 5 years service.
When people trade guns they get a lot for them.
I can see the reasoning. BB also might want some older heads.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 08, 2012, 10:48:23 PM
Why are you still considering trading sidey? The youth route is fine but you will need captain material to lead you to a premiership because you have no idea how untried players will score so you cant count on them, youth policies should be under 25s not under 20s if you have a 25 year old you have minimum 5 years service.
agree with this 100% im going the youth strategy but i have gone after Goldy 24, Boak 24, Rance 23, Watts 21, Clark 25, Gray 24, Hurley 22 etc...
All young and should have 5+ years left but proven.
If i had sidey i wouldnt trade him unless i wanted a premiership soon and had an overload of mids and was short up front or down back.
A side note, I'm wondering how many people will still be involved here in 5 years...
People should be able to run their teams how they want without people telling them how too.
Quote from: ossie85 on October 08, 2012, 09:45:05 AM
The trade etiquette here is incredibly bad.
You coaches need to realise we have months of trading period. So when someone is off for a few hours, and find players they have been negotiating for have been traded out without letting them know, that's just poor.
Some of the trades are ridiculous. Some of you are clearly are either being very stupid, or simply don't care that you are ruining the quality of the competition.
Some of you lack honour and integrity. You must be aware you are making trades that are very one sided your way.
Some of you don't respect the voting, and are letting votes pass because you won't your own trades to go through.
Some of you don't reply to offers, will say 'I'll run it past my assistants' and then I never hear from you again.
I'm very close to resigning. And I hate that feeling, because enjoyed year 1 immensely.
I wanted everybody to have an equal say in matters, and have let just about every rule go up for vote.
This is looking like it was a mistake.
Honestly... At the end of the day this is just a game. People will do what they want to do in terms of trades even if to others it seems stupid. They aren't under an obligation to negotiate with everyone... The voting is there to stop the really bad ones and imo in most cases it has so I don't see where people have just been letting trades through either...
Agree with Boomz. Plus trades we think are unfair could turn out better for the other team!
Yeah Maca, perfect example is you getting lucky with Jordan Lewis :P
Harper clearly a better player. CLEARLY. :P
Could be long term RB!
My trade of Ward, Longer and Eski for Chappy, NRoo and Burgoyne was said to be way in my favor.
It's looking like Holz easily won it.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 09, 2012, 12:03:14 AM
Could be long term RB!
My trade of Ward, Longer and Eski for Chappy, NRoo and Burgoyne was said to be way in my favor.
It's looking like Holz easily won it.
its interesting what a year can do. While i dont have those guys left in my squad. I turned them into Jack Redden, Robbie Gray and Sam Docherty.
Dublin trade: Israel Folau
Moscow trade: Pick 30
Reason: Dont really need him anymore with the trades I have made and pick 30 will be useful. All the good players should be gone by than but I could get lucky and pick a gem.
Quote from: Holzman on October 09, 2012, 02:38:13 AM
Dublin trade: Israel Folau
Moscow trade: Pick 30
Reason: Dont really need him anymore with the trades I have made and pick 30 will be useful. All the good players should be gone by than but I could get lucky and pick a gem.
Confirmed.
Reason: Brian Lake.
Lake moving to the Hawks pretty much seals Jordan Roughead's fate as a key position backman. Izzy should get fwd/ruck status next year and if he can average 55 that will be about as good as what i could get from a backup ruck like McBean, who I might have been able to get with #30.
A little known fact is that on the morning of the 2004 draft, Hawthorn changed their mind about who to select with pick #2. Deledio was the clear #1 pick, and it was common knowledge that the Bulldogs were going to take Griffen at #3. Hawthorn intended on taking Tambling with #2 right up until the morning of the draft. They rated him higher than both Roughead and Franklin, but they decided they needed a centre half back more than a midfielder. 'bling wasn't available at #5 so the Hawks had to settle for Buddy.
Getting Izzy for #30 makes me feel like the Tigers when they got Tambling with #4. THE STEAL OF THE DRAFT!
Trade 100 (Murdoch) has also failed. Give them 48 hours to make it work.
All others pass. 1 coach remaining to vote.
Just to clarify...
It's AFL rounds 1-17 that count towards the points cap yes? Got to squeeze everyone in.
Quote from: Nails on October 09, 2012, 02:27:13 PM
Just to clarify...
It's AFL rounds 1-17 that count towards the points cap yes? Got to squeeze everyone in.
No, it is WXV Rounds 1-17
This should help:
Dane Swan 1862
Dean Cox 1892
Matthew Boyd 1951
Heath Scotland 1610
Drew Petrie 1687
Michael Barlow 1590
Steve Johnson 1503
Robbie Warnock 357
Shannon Hurn 1529
Jarred Brennan 1152
Paul Chapman 1661
Andrew Carrazzo 958
Brent Harvey 1614
Scott D Thompson 1236
Graham Johncock 691
Jordie McKenzie 965
Shaun Burgoyne 1254
Jordan Gysberts 28
David Wojcinksi 121
Kepler Bradley 643
Chad Cornes 1099
Kane Cornes 1568
Jay Schulz 786
Simon Buckley 747
Jarrad Redden 415
Michael Osborne 378
Tom Logan 541
Cameron Bruce 31
David Rodan 452
Jesse O'Brien 51
Dean Polo 305
Amon Buchanan 0
Brett Meredith 0
Matt Dea 531
Paul Stewart 1147
Jarryd Lyons 95
Blake Bray 0
Michael Mascoulis 0
Lin Jong 0
Will Young 0
Tim McIntyre 55
James Craig 0
Ben Dowdell 0
Steven Verrier 0
Thanks tons Ossie dawg.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149497/default.aspx
NO NO NO, why did I trade him? :'(
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 04:25:07 PM
Thanks tons Ossie dawg.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/149497/default.aspx
NO NO NO, why did I trade him? :'(
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Mexico trades: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + P13 + P46 + P51
Beijing trades: Steele Sidebottom
Reason: it gives us the best of everything, young, old and picks. Sets us up.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 10, 2012, 06:12:35 PM
Mexico trades: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + P13 + P46 + P51
Beijing trades: Steele Sidebottom
Reason: it gives us the best of everything, young, old and picks. Sets us up.
Confirmed: Sad to see High scorer Kerr go plus my defensive depth and of course the 3 nice picks.
BUT, I gain a midfielder which I have desperately needed to freshen up my mids.
BB you realise with that trade you now have 45 players on your list and 14 nat picks, which means if you want to use them all you will have to delist 18 players right??
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 10, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
BB you realise with that trade you now have 45 players on your list and 14 nat picks, which means if you want to use them all you will have to delist 18 players right??
Yeah I do.
And this deal> yours.
I disagreed with your explanation, so I went through with this.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 10, 2012, 06:25:43 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 10, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
BB you realise with that trade you now have 45 players on your list and 14 nat picks, which means if you want to use them all you will have to delist 18 players right??
Yeah I do.
And this deal> yours.
I disagreed with your explanation, so I went through with this.
Fair enough then. Honestly think you're wrong, but it's your team
Ah, so I take that as you weren't considering my deal then bb? Cheers for getting back to me.
Really?
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2012, 06:30:57 PM
Ah, so I take that as you weren't considering my deal then bb? Cheers for getting back to me.
Cheers for the message OSS.
Oh wait...
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 10, 2012, 06:42:41 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2012, 06:30:57 PM
Ah, so I take that as you weren't considering my deal then bb? Cheers for getting back to me.
Cheers for the message OSS.
Oh wait...
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 06, 2012, 11:12:48 AM
Hmm...
Let me talk to Tbag.
^ thanks for getting back to me, tool
Oss, pm me an offer for Hurn ;)
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 06:56:50 PM
Oss, pm me an offer for Hurn ;)
I don't want Hurn, thanks though Nails
Must be the only one :( I still want your guy :o the one that you know I want.
Quote from: Nails on October 10, 2012, 07:03:07 PM
Must be the only one :( I still want your guy :o the one that you know I want.
Ok... THEN MAKE ME AN OFFER. You are always asking me to make an offer, how about you make one for a change. FCOL.
Os, just out of curiosity, are we able to vote out coaches?
btw, thanks for getting back to me. You are an aswesome negotiator :)
And when is the next voting period?
The boss is getting angry!
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
The boss is getting angry!
I'm like the Incredible Hulk or Julia Gillard lol
Quote from: Master Q on October 10, 2012, 07:19:45 PM
Os, just out of curiosity, are we able to vote out coaches?
btw, thanks for getting back to me. You are an aswesome negotiator :)
And when is the next voting period?
And yes, and every Monday
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2012, 08:29:42 PM
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 08:27:10 PM
The boss is getting angry!
I'm like the Incredible Hulk or Julia Gillard lol
don't put yourself down like that ossie. I would rather have you as PM than the current.
My order of preference for PM
1. ANYBODY
2. Julia Gillard
3. Tony ABottt
Shows my feelings of politics atm
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
My order of preference for PM
1. ANYBODY
2. Julia Gillard
3. Tony ABottt
Shows my feelings of politics atm
Think that'd be quite alot of people!
Haha I feel sorry that you have to live in the same territory as them ossie :P
Quote from: ossie85 on October 10, 2012, 08:35:59 PM
My order of preference for PM
1. ANYBODY
2. Julia Gillard
3. Tony ABottt
Shows my feelings of politics atm
100% agree with that lol
Sorry to break up the rage and politics, but there is a trade to announce.
Moscow trades pick #14
Toronto trades Angus Monfries
Reason: A cold, wet winters night in Adelaide showed what Angus is capable of if he is given the opportunity. Ever since then I have thought that he should get more midfield time. Hopefully at Port he can live up to his potential.
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 09:26:08 PM
Sorry to break up the rage and politics, but there is a trade to announce.
Moscow trades pick #14
Toronto trades Angus Monfries
Reason: A cold, wet winters night in Adelaide showed what Angus is capable of if he is given the opportunity. Ever since then I have thought that he should get more midfield time. Hopefully at Port he can live up to his potential.
Confirmed
Reasoning: You'll (hopefully) see why in a minute, on trading FTW ;)
But seriously, I really rated Gus a lot higher when the news was announced that he'd be going to Port and so fielded offers on him still but was asking a lot more than most people would offer seeing as they'd just look at his ave in 2012 and steer clear but I was glad that meow saw the potential too. Pick 14 I am very with, has a lot of value on the market and even if I keep it I'm confident with the help of my draft "guru" ;) and a bit of luck I'll get a very good player.
Who is your draft guru? I want a draft guru...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 10, 2012, 09:33:06 PM
Who is your draft guru? I want a draft guru...
lol hardly even mine, I'm an assistant at the Bashers (Euros) and FARK is our draft guru there and I just take that advice over to here :P
Pfft I know more than Fark, thought you actually meant someone who knew some stuff ::)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 10, 2012, 09:49:14 PM
Pfft I know more than Fark, thought you actually meant someone who knew some stuff ::)
Haha, he actually really knows the draft though :P
Thinking of getting him and tbag to do my drafting, the top 50 players will all be from SA :P
Haha that would be trouble! :P
I've done my own research for the draft, really not all that hard to do ;)
If you want a draft guru just rest Mr Craig's thread ;)
Mr Craig didn't know who Tom Lee or Shane Nelson were...
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 09:58:35 PM
Mr Craig didn't know who Tom Lee or Shane Nelson were...
All I know about Nelson is that he blitzed the kicking drill in the combine last year.
Well I think he did. :P
I have 0 picks in the draft so my omniscience is going to waste.
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
I have 0 picks in the draft so my omniscience is going to waste.
Just pick for me instead. ;)
Quote from: meow meow on October 10, 2012, 10:05:06 PM
I have 0 picks in the draft so my omniscience is going to waste.
You can give this poor Qlder the benefit of your knowledge Meow.
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Mr Craig didn't know who Tom Lee or Shane Nelson were...
Hey!
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Don't know much about the other boys.
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Knew of them, just hadn't done the in depth research at that point.
Seoul trades M Warnock and T Lonergan to London for Pick 36
Have 49 players on my list and no picks :/
Quote from: ossie85 on October 11, 2012, 07:33:26 AM
Seoul trades M Warnock and T Lonergan to London for Pick 36
Have 49 players on my list and no picks :/
Confirmed - Gives depth to my backs following the retirement of Drummond and de-listing of Bower. Pick 36 considered reasonable for these 2 players who are not high scorers but will more than likely play most games for the season.
After a LOT of negotiation, I have reached a deal with FS. It started off with just Murdoch, then renegotiated with Murdoch+Zorko and now just Zorko :P
Toronto Trade: Sam Fisher, Pick 14, Josh Toy
New Delhi Trade: Dayne Zorko, Ben Mabon
Reasoning: Fisher was no longer needed with Nicholson and Zorko replaces the void Carrazzo leaves in my midfield. While Mabon may still be a little while off in my opinion, my North bias means I love him, and with HMac and Pedo possibly both leaving it opens a door for him.
Pick 14 will be good, Fisher adds to my backline and Toy could be a good player. Mabon wasn't required
You do know that they discovered Toy has a heart condition the other day don't you FS?
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 11, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
You do know that they discovered Toy has a heart condition the other day don't you FS?
I don't think it's as easily treatable as Wolff-Parkinson-White syndrome (Eagleton) either. :(
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OSSIE HAS DELETED HIS ACCOUNT. :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o
We're all flowered.
Seriously, what do we do now? Would take a combined effort from 3+ members to approach the amount of work he did.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 11, 2012, 09:58:00 AM
You do know that they discovered Toy has a heart condition the other day don't you FS?
Has been known for a year or two & GC clearly think it can be managed considering they have a contract offer on the table. Other clubs the ones who are worried about trading for him coz of it (why it's back in the news). Definitely kills his chances of playing in the midfield where he is better suited :-\ maybe the first career sub :o
Quote from: Sid on October 11, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
We're all flowered.
Seriously, what do we do now? Would take a combined effort from 3+ members to approach the amount of work he did.
Let's go see our families. I don't think we can run this at all without Oss.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 11, 2012, 04:50:12 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 11, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
We're all flowered.
Seriously, what do we do now? Would take a combined effort from 3+ members to approach the amount of work he did.
Let's go see our families. I don't think we can run this at all without Oss.
Oss will come back soon to run it, just not as a coach. Not sure about meow.
Trading isn't frozen until Sunday night so Ringo and I have reached a deal now.
Toronto Trade: Sam Wright, Ben Hudson
London Trade: Richard Douglas, Steven Morris
Reasoning: I really like Douglas and I believe that he can average close to 90 this year if all goes well for him, maybe even higher. Important for me to snare another mid to finish it off and he suits the age bracket well too. Morris is a very talented player, and while being a mature age recruit he's still young and a defender averaging 65 in his first year is pretty good IMO. I had to try and eliminate my bias in this trade like Maca's been telling me to for a long time so it sees me lose one of my favourite Roos :( My thinking is that as he plays more midfield time his scoring may drop, but it may also rise like Atley...risk you take I suppose. Hudson was no longer needed once I secured Mabon and Ringo being a Lions fan and all it just made sense.
By the way guys I'm happy to send out the trades for everyones approval monday morning :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 12, 2012, 07:45:19 PM
By the way guys I'm happy to send out the trades for everyones approval monday morning :)
I was gonna offer to do the same, but if you are able to do it, then I think that will be fine.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 12, 2012, 07:39:21 PM
Trading isn't frozen until Sunday night so Ringo and I have reached a deal now.
Toronto Trade: Sam Wright, Ben Hudson
London Trade: Richard Douglas, Steven Morris
Reasoning: I really like Douglas and I believe that he can average close to 90 this year if all goes well for him, maybe even higher. Important for me to snare another mid to finish it off and he suits the age bracket well too. Morris is a very talented player, and while being a mature age recruit he's still young and a defender averaging 65 in his first year is pretty good IMO. I had to try and eliminate my bias in this trade like Maca's been telling me to for a long time so it sees me lose one of my favourite Roos :( My thinking is that as he plays more midfield time his scoring may drop, but it may also rise like Atley...risk you take I suppose. Hudson was no longer needed once I secured Mabon and Ringo being a Lions fan and all it just made sense.
Confirmed - Desparately need forwards and really can see a future with Wright. Whilst Hudson has onl signed for one season he may give us back up with Seaby de-listing. May even play some games for the Lions in conjunction with Berger.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 12, 2012, 07:45:19 PM
By the way guys I'm happy to send out the trades for everyones approval monday morning :)
Thanks CF and ML- Purps and I have been working on this and if you look at the first page Purple now has the edit rights thanks to HP. I will be collating all the trades for this week and posting here to allow Purple to update 1st page. Corresponded with Purple by PM.
We will run the same way as oss has been running it. Again thanks for the offer both of you..
No worries Ringo.
It's good to see that we have you guys getting things sorted for now. :)
Trades for this week so far recorded:
Trade 102 Confirmed
Dublin give: Israel Folau
Moscow give: Pick 30
Trade 103 Confirmed
Mexico gives: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + P13 + P46 + P51
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom
Trade 104 Confirmed
Moscow gives pick #14
Toronto gives Angus Monfries
Trade 105 Confirmed
Was confirmed prior to oss leaving and In fairness to all Negate this trade if you believe it should not stand, Did not want to make ruling as it involves myself.
Seoul gives M Warnock and T Lonergan
London gives Pick 36
Trade 106 Confirmed
Toronto give: Sam Fisher, Pick 14, Josh Toy
New Delhi give: Dayne Zorko, Ben Mabon
Trade 107 Confirmed
Toronto give: Sam Wright, Ben Hudson
London give: Richard Douglas, Steven Morris
Trade 108 Confirmed
Toronto give: Pick 86
Beunos Aires give: David Rodan
Involved in 3/6 trades that's pretty solid I reckon!
Thanks very much Ringo and HP! Will put them in now......
Probably the shortest trade negotiation in history? Took a whole 10 seconds for this trade.
Toronto Trade: Pick 86
Beunos Aires Trade: David Rodan
Reasoning: May, MAY get picked up somewhere and could be a bit of a smokie, scores OK when up and about. If he doesn't get picked up again then no huge loss, I would have had to delist an extra player with the pick anyway so can delist him.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 13, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Probably the shortest trade negotiation in history? Took a whole 10 seconds for this trade.
Toronto Trade: Pick 86
Beunos Aires Trade: David Rodan
Reasoning: May, MAY get picked up somewhere and could be a bit of a smokie, scores OK when up and about. If he doesn't get picked up again then no huge loss, I would have had to delist an extra player with the pick anyway so can delist him.
Hmmm... could be a gun if he gets picked up... but a pick doesn't hurt my points cap. Not sure who I'll delist for the pick :-\ but meh.
Confirmed.
Quote from: Ringo on October 12, 2012, 10:07:38 PM
Trade 105 Confirmed
Was confirmed prior to oss leaving and In fairness to all Negate this trade if you believe it should not stand, Did not want to make ruling as it involves myself.
Seoul gives M Warnock and T Lonergan
London gives Pick 36
So that's where he got #36 for our trade. We had a deal sorted with his latest counter offer, but by the time I got home from Uni, he had already deactivated hours earlier so shall wait until new coach is appointed before moving some players :). He did post a reason so I think it should go through as it was prior to him leaving, but in my case, he had left prior to me agreeing, so I should wait.
Quote from: roo boys! on October 13, 2012, 05:07:25 PM
Probably the shortest trade negotiation in history? Took a whole 10 seconds for this trade.
Toronto Trade: Pick 86
Beunos Aires Trade: David Rodan
Reasoning: May, MAY get picked up somewhere and could be a bit of a smokie, scores OK when up and about. If he doesn't get picked up again then no huge loss, I would have had to delist an extra player with the pick anyway so can delist him.
(http://i882.photobucket.com/albums/ac30/Muppy23/RodanNorth_zps4428cc18.jpeg)
Blue and white suite him, although lookas way better in Norwood colours ;)
We going to get the trades completed sent to us for voting soon? :P
Sorry guys! Bit of a mis-understanding..... will send them out now
How are the votes looking?? :)
Also now that a coach has been appointed can the frozen trade period be thawed out? ;)
11/17 coaches have replied, meaning I can't say any clear confirmed trades :o
I suppose people can resume trading if they want, but the voting won't be sent out until the 29th?
Sound fair? Not much of a break otherwise....
Sounds good to me Purps :)
That also means no clear negged trades either? Always good news :P
12/17 coaches have voted, and the following trades can be confirmed to have passed:
Trade 102 Confirmed
Dublin give: Israel Folau
Moscow give: Pick 30
Trade 104 Confirmed
Moscow gives: Pick 14
Toronto gives: Angus Monfries
Trade 105 Confirmed
Seoul gives: Matthew Warnock and Tom Lonergan
London gives: Pick 36
Trade 107 Confirmed
Toronto give: Sam Wright and Ben Hudson
London give: Richard Douglas and Steven Morris
Meaning Trades, 103, 106 and 108 are still in the air.
Yes go Izzy!!
Wow monfries...
Cape Town gives: Pick 36 and Sam Iles
London gives: Jeff Garlett
Bet you hate life Ringo!
Quote from: Maca24 on October 19, 2012, 04:47:12 PM
Cape Town gives: Pick 36 and Sam Iles
London gives: Jeff Garlett
Bet you hate life Ringo!
Funny thing was I was pretty close to picking up Iles but decided to go with Douglas instead.
Lol I also traded Ringo Seaby, then a week later he got delisted :P
15/17 coaches have replied, it is now safe to say:
Trade 106 Confirmed
Toronto give: Sam Fisher, Pick 14 and Josh Toy
New Delhi give: Dayne Zorko and Ben Mabon
and
Trade 108 Confirmed
Toronto give: Pick 86
Beunos Aires give: David Rodan
Have now passed. Leaving Trade 103 (Sidebottom) still in the air
Can not seem to take a trick with Iles now delisted. Should not have to delist too many now to meet target with now having 8 players either de-listed or retired.
Mexico Give: Picks 7 and 90
New Delhi Gives: Pick 14 and Daniel Cross
Reason: Pick downgrade plus I get a player who will help my 2013 flag campaign.
Quote from: CrowsFan on September 03, 2012, 11:04:32 AM
Trade 2 - Pumas and Tigers
Pumas Give: Daniel Cross
Pumas Receive: Matthew Buntine and Jared Polec
Quote from: Maca24 on October 19, 2012, 07:24:40 PM
Mexico Give: Picks 7 and 90
New Delhi Gives: Pick 14 and Daniel Cross
Reason: Pick downgrade plus I get a player who will help my 2013 flag campaign.
That means FS gave Matthew Buntine, Jared Polec and pick 14 for pick 7 and 90.
Seriously Fisher, what are you doing ::)
Cannot believe I didn't reject CF's trade... *facepalm
Haha my trade was fine as I was giving him instant scoring instead of potential. But then trading that away was pretty stupid
Confirmed. I get a lower pick plus pick 90 will help for another trade that I'm in the process of doing
All coaches have now voted and:
Trade 103
Mexico gives: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + Pick 13 + Pick 46 + Pick 51
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom
Has been REJECTED. With 6 coaches rejecting: Purple 77, My Chumps, meow meow, c4v3m4n/Master Q, CrowsFan and Boomz.
Reasons include:
Toovey, Pick 46, Pick 51 and Henry Schade considered to be worth very little
Kerr is old, injury prone and at best will only be, 'serviceable', for 2-3 years opposed to Sidebottom's potential 10 years at a much higher average.
Nothing of value to the Suns has been given to Beijing i.e. none of the Suns/picks are/will be in the Suns starting 15 hence nothing valuable/good quality being given up in return.
And one that went in favour of Beijing: Too many players/picks for what Sidebottom is worth.
So overall, IMO, it seems like Mexico is giving up too much quantity but not enough quality. Perhaps that is something Maca and BB should negotiate on?
But I'm giving up to much? How do I renogotiate?
It could get blocked again but for me giving to much? ???
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
No you don't have to pay huge overs, but you have to pay something of similar value, so quality over quantity. It's like if someone offered me 7 karmichal hunt's for Ablett. I'm getting 6 extra people out of the deal, but that doesn't mean it's an equal trade.
Ossie had always given people to the Saturday maca, why should purple shorten it?
I thought he gave until mid week, if not I apologize.
Pick 13, 46, 51 and Daniel Kerr are hardly KHunts. But ok :P
I also believe it was until saturday for the trade voting cut-off.
Also, trades were sent out a little late
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
Quote from: Sid on October 20, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
to what though?
Quote from: DazBurg on October 20, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 20, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
to what though?
have to be a minimum of 15 years old to trade? :P
Quote from: pyronerd on October 20, 2012, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 20, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 20, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
to what though?
have to be a minimum of 15 years old to trade? :P
If that's mental age I think like half the comp is out :P.
Yeah, it probably does, but we don't have to worry about that for another year, seeing as we can't change the rules half-way through the trade period. If we did, all trades should be taken back IMO.
But that shouldn't happen
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 20, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on October 20, 2012, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 20, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 20, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
to what though?
have to be a minimum of 15 years old to trade? :P
If that's mental age I think like half the comp is out :P.
And pay outs like that just show your age ;)
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on October 20, 2012, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on October 20, 2012, 02:49:43 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on October 20, 2012, 02:43:11 PM
Quote from: Sid on October 20, 2012, 02:23:13 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 20, 2012, 12:24:50 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 20, 2012, 12:21:56 PM
Give less players, but better players maca ;)
So I have to pay huge overs?
No. This voting system needs to be changed.
Also purple, the trade should have passed, you gave people way to long to vote.
Should have been cut off by Thursday.
I hope it is changed.
to what though?
have to be a minimum of 15 years old to trade? :P
If that's mental age I think like half the comp is out :P.
too bad you would be out regardless
Mexico trades: Picks 13, 14, 51, Daniel Kerr, Alan Toovey and Henry Schade.
Beijing trades: Steele Sidebottom and Pick 21.
Reason: Sidey will help our mids for the future despite losing lots I believe it's worth it and will help out team :)
Quote from: Maca24 on October 21, 2012, 04:23:50 PM
Mexico trades: Picks 13, 14, 51, Daniel Kerr, Alan Toovey and Henry Schade.
Beijing trades: Steele Sidebottom and Pick 21.
Reason: Sidey will help our mids for the future despite losing lots I believe it's worth it and will help out team :)
Confirmed.
Reason: Gain picks, experience and young players.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 19, 2012, 07:24:40 PM
Mexico Give: Picks 7 and 90
New Delhi Gives: Pick 14 and Daniel Cross
Reason: Pick downgrade plus I get a player who will help my 2013 flag campaign.
Maca you never had pick 90. You had 91 ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on October 19, 2012, 07:24:40 PM
Mexico Give: Picks 7 and 90
New Delhi Gives: Pick 14 and Daniel Cross
Reason: Pick downgrade plus I get a player who will help my 2013 flag campaign.
Maca you never had pick 90. You had 91 ;)
Are you sure on that? Make it 91 then.
Yes I am. Check the first post ;)
You had 91 cos Dublin got an extra pick after round 1 pushing everyone back a place...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 21, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Yes I am. Check the first post ;)
You had 91 cos Dublin got an extra pick after round 1 pushing everyone back a place...
Ok 91 it is then. Makes no difference really.
Berlin and Wellington have struck a trade!
Berlin Gives: Pick 25, Pick 29, Tom Couch and Tom Downie
Wellington Gives: Reece Conca + Jack Fitzpatrick
Reason: Was targeting players that had steady averages but with room to improve; such as DangerField's big improvement. Was also targeting another young mid. Conca has a chance to be a defender, who also just clinched my interest.
Also, getting all Melb ruckman
Damn Stefan Martin >:(
Quote from: Purple 77 on October 26, 2012, 03:14:57 PM
Berlin and Wellington have struck a trade!
Berlin Gives: Pick 25, Pick 29, Tom Couch and Tom Downie
Wellington Gives: Reece Conca + Jack Fitzpatrick
Reason: Was targeting players that had steady averages but with room to improve; such as DangerField's big improvement. Was also targeting another young mid. Conca has a chance to be a defender, who also just clinched my interest.
Also, getting all Melb ruckman
Damn Stefan Martin >:(
Confirmed Purple really wanted fitzpatrick and as he wasnt a vital part of my squad it didnt hurt too much to trade him on and reece conca will hurt a bit as he may of made my starting 4 in defence but i was offered some decent picks and a few players to make up for it so i find that this deal works out fair
Reckon roo boys! did well securing Rodan for pick 86
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Reckon roo boys! did well securing Rodan for pick 86
Was one very happy fella when the news was announced that he was going to play again!
Quote from: roo boys! on October 26, 2012, 06:18:02 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on October 26, 2012, 04:07:31 PM
Reckon roo boys! did well securing Rodan for pick 86
Was one very happy fella when the news was announced that he was going to play again!
Rodan <3
But that is not the best thing.........
MORTON IS GONE!!!!!!!
(http://www.breeze-magazine.co.uk/images/cgt.jpg)
Sao Paulo Pumas Trades: ND #32
New York Revolution Trades: Shane Kersten
Reasoning
While we don't place a lot of value on picks, they are useful bargaining chips and really having our first pick all the way down at 80 was probably not appropriate for such a young team.
Quote from: Sid on October 27, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
Sao Paulo Pumas Trades: ND #32
New York Revolution Trades: Shane Kersten
Reasoning
While we don't place a lot of value on picks, they are useful bargaining chips and really having our first pick all the way down at 80 was probably not appropriate for such a young team.
Confirmed. Worried that a few of my forwards are going to be losing forward status in the upcoming seasons so getting a player who will be a forward his whole career. Has potential to become a strong scoring forward, and hopefully that is what he will become...
Looks like London may have traded in another retired ruck :( Hudson rumoured to have called it quits, no confirmation yet
Quote from: ossie85 on October 28, 2012, 02:14:05 PM
Looks like London may have traded in another retired ruck :( Hudson rumoured to have called it quits, no confirmation yet
Have heard the rumours but nothing officially confirmed from the club. Pulled the wrong Lions player in my trade with RB (could have had McGrath) but thought Hudson would go round for another year whilst Longer continues to develop physically.
Think I should just give up on the Royals this year now my 12th player either retired or de-listed. Hopefully though some like Pettard will be picked up in the drafts.
If anyone wants some defenders and can trade a ruck or forward PM me.
Players available
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,66177.0.html
That link doesn't work ringo...
Damn you have a lot of defenders though!! :o
Thanks CF - tried to get smart and post the exact link to the section of the thread where I listed my available players. Link worked OK for me but I suspect that was because it is my thread.
Have now posted Team thread and you will have to scroll down to see available players.
Know I have an abundance of defenders and mids to a lesser extent so happy to trade for forwards.
Guess where my draft picks will be used :D :D
Yeah came up with an error saying "You aren't allowed to modify just any post." Was very odd!
Yeah shame about our trade re Hudson Ringo, you're having shocking luck this off-season :-/
Quote from: Sid on October 27, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
Sao Paulo Pumas Trades: ND #32
New York Revolution Trades: Shane Kersten
Reasoning
While we don't place a lot of value on picks, they are useful bargaining chips and really having our first pick all the way down at 80 was probably not appropriate for such a young team.
Who is this?
Strong key forward taken by Geelong with pick 34 last year. Should begin to start replacing Pods in their side next year (hopefully)...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 29, 2012, 01:20:12 AM
Strong key forward taken by Geelong with pick 34 last year. Should begin to start replacing Pods in their side next year (hopefully)...
He is very handy.
Quote from: Maca24 on October 29, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 29, 2012, 01:20:12 AM
Strong key forward taken by Geelong with pick 34 last year. Should begin to start replacing Pods in their side next year (hopefully)...
He is very handy.
That's what I'm hoping. As long as he can get on the pitch haha :D
By the way, who is sending out the confirmation today, ossie or purple?
That is a good question CF lol, was thinking ossie would as he is back doing the admin stuff, but if ossie would like me to, I have no problems doing it
Well obviously don't mind who does it, as long as it gets done ;)
Also you should probably update the first page with the trades done, hasn't been updated for a week...
Oh right, only a couple of trades done by the look of it.
Give me some time, and it well get done
It would also be very helpful if everyone updated their lists as well after the results from this trade week are announced.
Some are out of date making things slightly challenging working out who has what. :)
Well mine is up to date (barring Kersten trade) :P
But I do agree that everyone should update their lists!
Also what's the deal with meow? We finding a new coach or leaving it to see if he comes back any time soon? 3 times he has deactivated, as much as I like him and value him in the comp I really don't think he should be allowed another chance...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 29, 2012, 07:47:45 PM
Well mine is up to date (barring Kersten trade) :P
But I do agree that everyone should update their lists!
Also what's the deal with meow? We finding a new coach or leaving it to see if he comes back any time soon? 3 times he has deactivated, as much as I like him and value him in the comp I really don't think he should be allowed another chance...
Honestly, I don't see it as that big of a deal. Yes he has deactivated his account on a few seperate occasions, but he has always returned and has always been around throughout this year to manage his team on a weekly basis. Sure he may have done it without warning or explanation, but the fact is he has always been around when it mattered.
Plus, he hasn't broken any rules as far as I am aware...the only one that he can be caught out on is if he doesn't vote twice consecutively, then his is sacked. Now I'm not sure if he voted in the last one, so he's either got until this Sunday or the following Sunday to come back.
Simple as that. :)
Agree with people keeping their lists updated, mine is pretty good in that regard I'm pretty sure so I should be alright. Makes it a lot easier to trade! (definitely not looking at you Nails :P)
If meow misses 2 voting periods, we should consider his position then. Reckon whoever came 2nd to replace me should take over
Quote from: ossie85 on October 30, 2012, 07:32:13 AM
If meow misses 2 voting periods, we should consider his position then. Reckon whoever came 2nd to replace me should take over
I reckon we hold a new one. There may be some coaches that didn't put their hand up last time.
My lists are up to date. With all the delistings may have missed one but I do update after the trades.
Regarding MEOW it is annoying so if he does not vote this week then I think we need to act. As you say need to check with Purple whether he voted last timne.
Agree it should also be a fresh vote and nominations just in case some new coaches want to take on Moscow.
Say if Meow was sacked, could I say (not that I would but..) put my hand up to coach Moscow instead of the Cobras, and just be seen as another candidate?
Would be interesting that way... people would of course have to take into account the decisions coaches had made in the past, ie, I made some really shower trades and captaincy choices in 2013 so I might not do a very good job at Moscow.
Quote from: My Chumps on October 30, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Say if Meow was sacked, could I say (not that I would but..) put my hand up to coach Moscow instead of the Cobras, and just be seen as another candidate?
Would be interesting that way... people would of course have to take into account the decisions coaches had made in the past, ie, I made some really shower trades and captaincy choices in 2013 so I might not do a very good job at Moscow.
Sure. Coaches move around in the AFL all the time. Can't see why that can't happen here.
funnily enough, meow was the first person to vote last time around.
But yeah, although annoying, he hasn't really broke any rules, so in my eyes it isn't a huge deal. But I think if he misses voting twice, definitely should be sacked
Yep, anyone can apply I reckon
Trade 28 (Confirmed)
Mexico City gives: Terry Milera, Jarrad Boumann, Kyle Reimers
New Delhi gives: Brent Harvey, Daniel Merrett
With Boumann and Reimers delisted, that is looking like Terry Milera - a player that averages 63 - for two starting position players in Brent Harvey (95 ave) and Daniel Merrett (77).
:(
Guess that's the luck of the draw :-/ Not sure why anyone would want Reimers though, I could see his delisting coming from miles away as I'm sure everyone else could.
Ossie I think in future seasons the trade period should only open once the list lodgements have been made by each club so that we can avoid all the issues of players trading players who then get delisted making the trades severely unfair...
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 31, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
Ossie I think in future seasons the trade period should only open once the list lodgements have been made by each club so that we can avoid all the issues of players trading players who then get delisted making the trades severely unfair...
+1 - Good suggestion here Crows fan. However we probably need to have a 3 week period prior to the National Draft where we can trade and finalise picks.
I would suggest that trade period starts on 1st November each year thus giving us a 3 week trading window.
And for the record I have traded in 4 players who were subsequently de-listed.
Quote from: CrowsFan on October 31, 2012, 01:19:50 PM
Ossie I think in future seasons the trade period should only open once the list lodgements have been made by each club so that we can avoid all the issues of players trading players who then get delisted making the trades severely unfair...
With Toy delisted today my trades are looking better and better, got rid of both Toy and Hudson before they retired or were delisted. Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if Toy was picked up again though.
Unless I've missed your PMs - still waiting on Boomz, c4, meow, My Chumps, Nails and pyronerd
Going to be hard for meow to mail you without an account ;)
Quote from: ossie85 on November 01, 2012, 02:47:18 PM
Unless I've missed your PMs - still waiting on Boomz, c4, meow, My Chumps, Nails and pyronerd
Hurry up guys :P
Izzy for pick 30 looking mighty good right now.
The Pacific Islanders are back in the trading game!
The Islanders have agreed to a deal whereby the highly sought after pick 2 heads to the Warriors.
Islanders give: Nick Smith + Pick 2
Warriors give: Tomas Bugg + Pick 5 + Pick 37.
REASON: After some recent discussions, we felt that we could part with pick 2 for the right price. Wellington came to the table with exactly what we were after, and after swift negotiations, this fair deal that benefits both clubs was made.
All in all, pick 2 wasn't going to come cheap, but we feel this is fair compensation in return for the prized pick.
update....
Trades 111 and 112 have passed, Trades 109 and 110 still in limbo.
Waiting on Boomz, meow and Nails.
Voting closes Midday on Saturday, at which time any coaches who haven't voted have officially missed a voting period.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 02, 2012, 12:51:16 PM
update....
Trades 111 and 112 have passed, Trades 109 and 110 still in limbo.
Waiting on Boomz, meow and Nails.
Voting closes Midday on Saturday, at which time any coaches who haven't voted have officially missed a voting period.
Both Boomz and Nails are on FFChat regularly, I'll let them know. Nothing you can do about meow.
Hooray it passed :D
And with that trade I'm going to say that the Pumas are basically done with trading. Very happy with the squad I now have and wont be pursuing any other trades with people. They are still free to approach me regarding players though :)
When will I get a trade passed? Honestly...
Quote from: c4v3m4n on November 02, 2012, 12:38:31 PM
The Pacific Islanders are back in the trading game!
The Islanders have agreed to a deal whereby the highly sought after pick 2 heads to the Warriors.
Islanders give: Nick Smith + Pick 2
Warriors give: Tomas Bugg + Pick 5 + Pick 37.
REASON: After some recent discussions, we felt that we could part with pick 2 for the right price. Wellington came to the table with exactly what we were after, and after swift negotiations, this fair deal that benefits both clubs was made.
All in all, pick 2 wasn't going to come cheap, but we feel this is fair compensation in return for the prized pick.
Confirmed, The Warriors have been looking to make a play for pick 2 for a while so when we got pick 5 it was seen as good value to go along with pick 37 and tomas bugg for pick 2, we got nick smith as i didnt want to lose tomasbugg without getting a defender in return as the warriors dont have all that many half decent playing forwards left
Quote from: Maca24 on November 02, 2012, 01:19:53 PM
When will I get a trade passed? Honestly...
when you do a fair trade ;)
Quote from: Holzman on November 01, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
Izzy for pick 30 looking mighty good right now.
Trade of the year
Quote from: whatlez on November 02, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 01, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
Izzy for pick 30 looking mighty good right now.
Trade of the year
:-\ I think this further illustrates the need to hold our trade week after the AFL's first list lodgement.
Plus it would also give us all a chance to have an off-season break. :P
Quote from: c4v3m4n on November 02, 2012, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: whatlez on November 02, 2012, 02:20:38 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 01, 2012, 05:15:55 PM
Izzy for pick 30 looking mighty good right now.
Trade of the year
:-\ I think this further illustrates the need to hold our trade week after the AFL's first list lodgement.
Plus it would also give us all a chance to have an off-season break. :P
I'm not sure on this to be honest. Izzy was unlucky to be sure but things like that happen just prior to round 1 also. But if you are risking trading in a player that could retire or be delisted, that's really up to you to take that risk.
All trades pass.
Boomz and meow meow get official warning :(
Absolutely ridiculous those 2 trades got passed ::)
Seriously how is pick 7 and pick 91 anywhere near a good enough offer for pick 14 and Daniel Cross? Cross is a consistent 100 point scorer and has at least 3 good years left in him!! So stupid that people let it pass! ::)
Same with the Sidebottom trade, got rejected the week before and pretty much nothing changed in the new deal yet it gets through this week.
*And no maca I'm not saying this because you are a flag threat, I'm saying this because the trades are ridiculously one sided and I don't get how you are firstly getting people to agree to these trades, and secondly how people are then passing them!
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 03, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Absolutely ridiculous those 2 trades got passed ::)
Seriously how is pick 7 and pick 91 anywhere near a good enough offer for pick 14 and Daniel Cross? Cross is a consistent 100 point scorer and has at least 3 good years left in him!! So stupid that people let it pass! ::)
Same with the Sidebottom trade, got rejected the week before and pretty much nothing changed in the new deal yet it gets through this week.
*And no maca I'm not saying this because you are a flag threat, I'm saying this because the trades are ridiculously one sided and I don't get how you are firstly getting people to agree to these trades, and secondly how people are then passing them!
I'll agree, there was very little difference between the previous weeks Sidey trade.
Mexico gives: Daniel Kerr + Alan Toovey + Henry Schade + Pick 13 + Pick 46 + Pick 51
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom
Mexico gives: Pick 13, Pick 14, Pick 51, Daniel Kerr, Alan Toovey and Henry Schade.
Beijing gives: Steele Sidebottom and Pick 21
The difference is that Beijing adds pick 21 and Mexico changes pick 46 to 14.
Yet the latter passes. :-\
Trade has passed, enough said. Can't be reversed now.
From last year's Top 100 picks from the draft:
Beijing
53 Matthew Kreuzer
79 Daniel Kerr
87 Harry Taylor
90 Liam Shiels
Berlin
5 Lance Franklin
32 Mark Jamar
56 Jack Trengove
66 David Swallow
76 Daniel Wells
78 Jack Grimes
Buenos Aires
2 Dane Swan
29 Dean Cox
34 Matthew Boyd
37 Heath Scotland
43 Drew Petrie
58 Michael Barlow
59 Steve Johnson
71 Robbie Warnock
74 Shannon Hurn
77 Jarred Brennan
93 Paul Chapman
Cairo
15 Shane Mumford
24 Nick Dal Santo
69 Jed Adcock
80 Michael Rischitelli
Cape Town
6 Joel Selwood
27 Trent Cotchin
31 Zac Smith
42 Jobe Watson
63 Ryan O'Keefe
67 Colin Sylvia
68 Greg Broughton
99 Josh P Kennedy
Dublin
9 Todd Goldstein
10 Michael Hurley
22 Dale Thomas
28 Jack Redden
51 David Mundy
52 Mitch Clark
72 Robbie Gray
100 Travis Boak
London
45 Ben Reid
82 Brent Stanton
Mexico City
12 Brendon Goddard
25 Aaron Sandilands
39 Scott Thompson
47 Luke Hodge
60 Corey Enright
61 Jimmy Bartel
83 Brian Lake
84 Adam Goodes
94 Nick Riewoldt
97 Mark LeCras
Moscow
8 Nat Fyfe
11 Nic Naitanui
26 Dustin Martin
41 Ryan Griffen
46 Heath Shaw
62 Shaun Higgins
92 Liam Jurrah
98 Dayne Beams
New Delhi
30 Josh Gibson
48 Sam Fisher
64 Leigh Montagna
85 Nathan Bock
96 Daniel Giansiracusa
New York
18 Travis Cloke
44 Grant Birchall
65 Dyson Heppell
Pacific
13 Tom Rockliff
19 Matthew Leuenberger
PNL
14 Matt Priddis
23 Cyril Rioli
49 Jackson Trengove
50 Matthew Pavlich
86 Chris Newman
95 Heath Grundy
Sao Paulo
3 Gary Ablett jnr
33 Sam Jacobs
38 David Zaharakis
70 Jarryd Roughead
75 Hamish Hartlett
Seoul
17 Bryce Gibbs
20 Ben McEvoy
21 Brett Deledio
57 Patrick Dangerfield
81 Josh J Kennedy
88 Chris Yarran
91 Tom Scully
Tokyo
7 Chris Judd
35 Sam Mitchell
54 Matt Suckling
55 Luke Shuey
89 Kieran Jack
Toronto
1 Scott Pendlebury
16 Andrew Swallow
36 Paddy Ryder
73 Jack Riewoldt
Wellington
4 Marc Murphy
40 Hamish McIntosh
flower you Israel Folau. You were my only hope!
Find a new coach for Moscow!
8 guys inside the top 100 with 7 of the them 25 or under pretty happy with that.
the only guy with 2 top 10 picks (even if one of them is hurley)
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
flower you Israel Folau. You were my only hope!
Find a new coach for Moscow!
Missed out by about 6 hours meow. :-\ or is this only your first miss?
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2012, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
flower you Israel Folau. You were my only hope!
Find a new coach for Moscow!
Missed out by about 6 hours meow. :-\ or is this only your first miss?
Hey meow, good to see you back. Hope that wasn't a resignation....
Quote from: ossie85 on November 03, 2012, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2012, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
flower you Israel Folau. You were my only hope!
Find a new coach for Moscow!
Missed out by about 6 hours meow. :-\ or is this only your first miss?
Hey meow, good to see you back. Hope that wasn't a resignation....
So only his first miss?
According to Purple and this thread a few posts ago, yes :)
Quote from: ossie85 on November 03, 2012, 07:02:04 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 03, 2012, 06:59:26 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 03, 2012, 05:41:03 PM
flower you Israel Folau. You were my only hope!
Find a new coach for Moscow!
Missed out by about 6 hours meow. :-\ or is this only your first miss?
Hey meow, good to see you back. Hope that wasn't a resignation....
Here here. Good to have you back...again. :P
Seoul finally get active after a bit of a hiatus. A couple of trades here plus a couple still being worked through.
Seoul gives: H Ballantyne + Pick 83 Nat
Cairo gives: T Hunt + Pick 33 Nat
Reason: Was chasing kids with a big upside which is how we rate Hunt, plus getting a significant pick upgrade was a bonus.
Next one:
Seoul gives: C Dawes + R Stanley
Pacific Is. Gives: S Darley + J Newnes
Reason: Pick up 2 kids I rate highly in exchange for 2 players on the fringe of our best 15
Quote from: Spinking on November 04, 2012, 06:31:43 PM
Seoul finally get active after a bit of a hiatus. A couple of trades here plus a couple still being worked through.
Seoul gives: H Ballantyne + Pick 83 Nat
Cairo gives: T Hunt + Pick 33 Nat
Reason: Was chasing kids with a big upside which is how we rate Hunt, plus getting a significant pick upgrade was a bonus.
Confirmed. Really needed another forward to strengthen that line. Don't really rate picks that highly, so don't mind giving away 33.
Also feel like Ballantyne is a prime candidate to improve his average by 10+ next season.
Quote from: Spinking on November 04, 2012, 06:35:44 PM
Next one:
Seoul gives: C Dawes + R Stanley
Pacific Is. Gives: S Darley + J Newnes
Reason: Pick up 2 kids I rate highly in exchange for 2 players on the fringe of our best 15
Confirmed.The Islanders have been searching for another forward line player for some time and Dawes is the perfect fit. Giving up talented youngsters Sam Darley and Jack Newnes wasn't easy, but we're happy with the fair trade that has been reached.
Another blow for your backline C4? :/
Quote from: Maca24 on November 04, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
Another blow for your backline C4? :/
It'll all work out Maca, don't you worry. Just wait and see. 8)
Quote from: c4v3m4n on November 04, 2012, 08:01:08 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 04, 2012, 07:40:04 PM
Another blow for your backline C4? :/
It'll all work out Maca, don't you worry. Just wait and see. 8)
I'll be waiting :)
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 03, 2012, 04:19:36 PM
Absolutely ridiculous those 2 trades got passed ::)
Seriously how is pick 7 and pick 91 anywhere near a good enough offer for pick 14 and Daniel Cross? Cross is a consistent 100 point scorer and has at least 3 good years left in him!! So stupid that people let it pass! ::)
Same with the Sidebottom trade, got rejected the week before and pretty much nothing changed in the new deal yet it gets through this week.
*And no maca I'm not saying this because you are a flag threat, I'm saying this because the trades are ridiculously one sided and I don't get how you are firstly getting people to agree to these trades, and secondly how people are then passing them!
I know right. Basically no difference between the two trades.
But oh well. Consensus says otherwise.
Moscow trades Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul trades Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Reason: I think Roughead will be a backman only eventually and Dixon has a greater chance of being the back up ruckman I need. Dick has as much talent as Ellis, but he's 5 years older and so injury prone, so the two untried players even things up.
Quote from: meow meow on November 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Moscow trades Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul trades Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Reason: I think Roughead will be a backman only eventually and Dixon has a greater chance of being the back up ruckman I need. Dick has as much talent as Ellis, but he's 5 years older and so injury prone, so the two untried players even things up.
LOL.
Quote from: meow meow on November 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Moscow trades Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul trades Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Reason: I think Roughead will be a backman only eventually and Dixon has a greater chance of being the back up ruckman I need. Dick has as much talent as Ellis, but he's 5 years older and so injury prone, so the two untried players even things up.
Confirmed. Gives Seoul two players who will give us solid cover in required areas, and lose 4 players who we didn't particularly rate.
Cape Town trades: Max Gawn + Pick 78
Berlin trades: Stefan Martin
Reason: Although we did rate Gawn as a quality young ruckman, there are no certainties about him getting gametime this season, especially with Melbourne recruiting Dawes, and I really need a solid back up for Smith.
Martin should return to his solid scoring days at Brisbane!
Quote from: My Chumps on November 05, 2012, 06:51:54 PM
Cape Town trades: Max Gawn + Pick 78
Berlin trades: Stefan Martin
Reason: Although we did rate Gawn as a quality young ruckman, there are no certainties about him getting gametime this season, especially with Melbourne recruiting Dawes, and I really need a solid back up for Smith.
Martin should return to his solid scoring days at Brisbane!
Confirmed.
Reasoning: Just a continued pursuit of all the melbourne ruckman (which if is this confirmed, I will have), I traded for Martin when he was a demon, and pretty peaved that he left, so he was no longer needed really. I have faith in the big Gawn.
Quote from: Spinking on November 05, 2012, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Moscow trades Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul trades Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Reason: I think Roughead will be a backman only eventually and Dixon has a greater chance of being the back up ruckman I need. Dick has as much talent as Ellis, but he's 5 years older and so injury prone, so the two untried players even things up.
Confirmed. Gives Seoul two players who will give us solid cover in required areas, and lose 4 players who we didn't particularly rate.
If you didn't rate Dixon...ahh well guess that's my fault for not being more pro-active!
Quote from: roo boys! on November 06, 2012, 02:41:20 PM
Quote from: Spinking on November 05, 2012, 05:00:23 PM
Quote from: meow meow on November 05, 2012, 04:53:28 PM
Moscow trades Brandon Ellis and Jordan Roughead
Seoul trades Charlie Dixon, Brad Dick, Josh Thomas and George Burbury
Reason: I think Roughead will be a backman only eventually and Dixon has a greater chance of being the back up ruckman I need. Dick has as much talent as Ellis, but he's 5 years older and so injury prone, so the two untried players even things up.
Confirmed. Gives Seoul two players who will give us solid cover in required areas, and lose 4 players who we didn't particularly rate.
If you didn't rate Dixon...ahh well guess that's my fault for not being more pro-active!
He's the one we rated of the four ;)
Just put in the front page the current picks at every club, thought it might help and save some time, gee Beijing and Wellington have a lot!
Love the picks on the front page Purple, good stuff
All trades Pass (113 and 115 had 4 votes against, 114 had 1 against)
NAILS and FISHERSAINTS have a warning - miss next week and position under threat
Thought I sent one back. iPod must have crashed.
We can hope :P
I didn't get a PM and i'm co-coach. What's up with that? ???
Maybe because no one knew/cared ;)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
I didn't get a PM and i'm co-coach. What's up with that? ???
Only get 20 messages per hour again (as mod for me it was unlimited), so only senior coaches unless the senior coaches tell me otherwise.
Plus the voting is the same every week
Updated lists
Beijing
Matthew Kreuzer
Daniel Kerr
Harry Taylor
Liam Shiels
Travis Varcoe
Eddie Betts
Patrick Veszpremi
Rhyce Shaw
Lindsay Gilbee
Matt Rosa
Josh Caddy
Dean Brogan
Brent Guerra
Robbie Tarrant
Luke Tapscott
Andrejs Everitt
Ryan Hargrave
Joel Wilkinson
Cale Hooker
Josh Hunt
Jake King
Scott Gumbleton
Alan Toovey
Darren Glass
Matt Spangher
Mark McVeigh
Neville Jetta
Chance Bateman
Aaron Cornelius
Adam McPhee
Nathan Djerrkura
Ricky Dyson
Clint Bartram
Nick Salter
Ryan Neates
Seamus McNamara
Warrick Andreoli
Sam Kerridge
Henry Schade
Elliot Yeo
Michael Talia
Lachie Neale
Addam Maric
Shane Biggs
Danny Butcher
Berlin
Lance Franklin
Mark Jamar
Jack Trengove
David Swallow
Daniel Wells
Jack Grimes
Stef Martin
Matthew Stokes
Jack Steven
Andy Otten
John Butcher
Tom Lynch
Michael Hibberd
Brandon Matera
Colin Garland
Reece Conca
Dylan Grimes
Daniel Talia
Lachlan Henderson
Daniel Jackson
Kane Lucas
Ben Warren
Shane Edwards
Alipate Carlile
Maverick Weller
Tom McDonald
Daniel Archer
Jake Spencer
Nathan Brown
Jack Fitzpatrick
Michael Evans
Rohan Kerr
Aiden Riley
Ben Newton
Jackson Ferguson
Brad Crouch
Josh Tynan
James Sellar
James Magner
Leigh Williams
Simon Tunbridge
Buenos Aires
Dane Swan
Dean Cox
Matthew Boyd
Heath Scotland
Drew Petrie
Michael Barlow
Steve Johnson
Robbie Warnock
Shannon Hurn
Jarred Brennan
Paul Chapman
Andrew Carrazzo
Brent Harvey
Scott D Thompson
Graham Johncock
Jordie McKenzie
Shaun Burgoyne
Jordan Gysberts
David Wojcinksi
Kepler Bradley
Chad Cornes
Kane Cornes
Jay Schulz
Simon Buckley
Jarrad Redden
Michael Osborne
Tom Logan
Cameron Bruce
Jesse O'Brien
Dean Polo
Amon Buchanan
Brett Meredith
Matt Dea
Paul Stewart
Jarryd Lyons
Blake Bray
Michael Mascoulis
Lin Jong
Will Young
Tim McIntyre
James Craig
Ben Dowdell
Steven Verrier
Cairo
Shane Mumford
Nick Dal Santo
Jed Adcock
Michael Rischitelli
Leigh Adams
Paul Puopolo
Callan Ward
Pearce Hanley
Brad Sewell
Danny Stanley
Hayden Ballantyne
Jeremy Laidler
Jared Petrenko
Shaun Grigg
Jonathon Griffin
Luke Breust
Ryan Bastinac
Lindsay Thomas
Daniel Connors
David Armitage
Ben Jacobs
James Polkinghorne
Nick Malceski
Ryan Crowley
Cheynee Stiller
Jamie Cripps
Simon Phillips
Lewis Johnston
Brodie Moles
Raph Clarke
Lukas Markovic
Simon Hogan
Jarryn Geary
Cameron Hitchcock
Lewis Stevenson
Angus Litherland
Eugene Kruger
Taylor Duryea
Sam Rowe
Tory Dickson
Setanta O'hAilpin
Alex Woodward
Jai Sheahan
Cory Dell'Olio
Kyal Horsley
Dylan Orval
Haiden Schloithe
Cape Town
Joel Selwood
Trent Cotchin
Zac Smith
Jobe Watson
Ryan O'Keefe
Colin Sylvia
Greg Broughton
Josh P Kennedy
Adam Cooney
Tom Hawkins
Jeff Garlett
James Gwilt
Nathan Vardy
Gary Rohan
Edward Curnow
Easton Wood
Jasper Pittard
Billie Smedts
Alex Johnson
Max Gawn
Jeremy Cameron
Stephen Milne
Craig Bird
Zephaniah Skinner
Cameron O'Shea
Cameron Guthrie
Lynden Dunn
Karmichael Hunt
Josh Cowan
Jacob Brennan
David Astbury
Bryce Retzlaff
Andrew Hooper
Nathan Gordon
Blayne Wilson
Andrew Browne
Henry Slattery
Jordan Schroder
Sam Crocker
Nick Haynes
Todd Elton
Rory Taggert
Brendon Ah Chee
Broc McCauley
Michael Coad
Campbell Heath
Alex Greenwood
Dublin
Todd Goldstein
Michael Hurley
Dale Thomas
Jack Redden
David Mundy
Mitch Clark
Robbie Gray
Travis Boak
Troy Chaplin
Jack Watts
Alex Rance
Zachary Clarke
Nathan van Berlo
Sam Day
Brett Thornton
Gerald Ugle
Will Sierakowski
Kurt Aylett
Kieran Harper
Shaun Atley
Aaron Black
Jed Lamb
Josh Bruce
Lachlan Hansen
Lucas Cook
Joshua Green
Sam Reid
Ryan Schoenmakers
Bradd Dalziell
Thomas Murphy
Brodie Martin
Troy Davis
Cruize Garlett
Ashton Hams
Jesse Stringer
Cameron Delaney
Ayden Kennedy
Josh Walker
Daniel Webb
Jaeger O'Meara
Sam Docherty
Joshua Bootsma
Bradley Hill
Daniel Markworth
Sam Frost
Max Warren
Cam Eardley
Gavin Urquhart
London
Ben Reid
Brent Stanton
Tom Bellchambers
Jonathan Brown
Andrew Mackie
Dan Hannebery
Jason Winderlich
Jarrad McVeigh
Brad Symes
Harry O'Brien
Quentin Lynch
Ricky Petterd
Chris Mayne
Mitch Banner
Josh Hill
Daniel Gorringe
Paul Bower
Mark Seaby
Sam Iles
Cale Morton
Matthew Broadbent
Sam Wright
Danyle Pearce
David Mackay
Brent Reilly
Matthew Bate
James McDonald
Zach Tuohy
Thomas Young
Matthew Warnock
Joel Macdonald
Ben Hudson
Andrew Moore
Thomas Swift
Jayden Post
Nathan Wilson
Brent Staker
Stephen Gilham
Peter Faulks
Mitchell Brown
Tom Lonergan
Jarrad Irons
Rhys O'Keeffe
Mark Whiley
Thomas Sheridan
Nicholas Joyce
Lachlan Dalgleish
Rory Laird
Steven Wrigley
Ben Darrou
Mexico City
Brendon Goddard
Aaron Sandilands
Scott Thompson
Luke Hodge
Corey Enright
Jimmy Bartel
Brian Lake
Adam Goodes
Nick Riewoldt
Mark LeCras
Brent Moloney
Daniel Cross
Steele Sidebottom
Daniel Merrett
Sam Gilbert
Stewart Crameri
Alan Didak
Jordan Lewis
Jarrad Waite
Ivan Maric
Chris Knights
Mark Nicoski
Bradley Ebert
Jordan Russell
Michael Firrito
Steven Salopek
Brett Peake
James Strauss
Brock McLean
Jarred Moore
Jay van Berlo
Dylan Addison
Brad Harvey
Ryan Bathie
Tom Curren
Daniel Pearce
Darren Pfeiffer
Mark Baguley
Malcolm Lynch
Matthew Lodge
Moscow
Nat Fyfe
Nic Naitanui
Dustin Martin
Ryan Griffen
Heath Shaw
Shaun Higgins
Liam Jurrah
Dayne Beams
Robert Murphy
Martin Clarke
Jack Darling
James Frawley
Angus Monfries
Tyrone Vickery
Kyle Hardingham
Shane Tuck
Bernie Vince
Jordan Roughead
Justin Sherman
Israel Folau
Adam Treloar
Kelvin Moore
Jack Hombsch
Dustin Fletcher
Richard Tambling
Alex Sexton
Jack Hutchins
Jackson Allen
Michael Walters
Josh Growden
Tom Williams
Jonathon Ceglar
Steven May
Josh Mellington
Sam Schulz
Paul Cribbin
Paul Seedsman
Dom Tyson
Will Hoskin-Elliott
Brandon Ellis
Fraser McInnes
Jason Blake
Caolan Mooney
Richard Newell
John Heslin
Corey Gault
New Delhi
Josh Gibson
Sam Fisher
Leigh Montagna
Nathan Bock
Daniel Giansiracusa
Max Bailey
James Podsiadly
Sharrod Wellingham
Rhys Palmer
Ian Callinan
Simon Black
Nicholas Duigan
Martin Mattner
Brent Renouf
Domenic Cassisi
Dale Morris
Chris Tarrant
Sam Lonergan
David Hille
Garrick Ibbotson
Josh Dyson
Ben Rutten
Sam Sheldon
Terry Milera
Josh Toy
Kyle Cheney
Clinton Young
Kyle Reimers
Brent Prismall
Josh Fraser
Aaron Mullett
George Horlin-Smith
Kirk Ugle
Justin Koschitzke
Callum Bartlett
Lewis Roberts-Thomson
Matthew White
Brad Miller
Viv Michie
Jarrad Boumann
Shaun Edwards
James Mulligan
Piers Flanagan
Will Langford
Orren Stephenson
Dylan Buckley
Jordan Murdoch
Lee Spurr
Zac Dawson
Sam Dunell
Nick Heyne
Brad Mangan
New York
Travis Cloke
Grant Birchall
Dyson Heppell
Mitch Morton
Tom Liberatore
Andrew Gaff
Trent McKenzie
Allen Christensen
Jarryd Blair
Dion Prestia
Harley Bennell
Scott Lycett
Jonathan Giles
Daniel Menzel
Anthony Morabito
Jake Melksham
Brodie Smith
Courtney Dempsey
Jake Batchelor
Jayden Pitt
Koby Stevens
Shaun McKernan
Mitchell W Brown
Michael Ross
Patrick McGinnity
Tom Derickx
Arryn Siposs
Josh Jenkins
Cameron Richardson
Ben Sinclair
Mike Pyke
Will Schofield
Tom Ledger
Ben Griffiths
Jeromey Webberley
Antoni Grover
Tom Hill
Patrick McCarthy
Aaron Young
Dean MacDonald
Toby Greene
Hayden Crozier
Matthew Arnot
John McCarthy
Lachlan Smith
No Team
Mark Austin
Josh Hall
Jason Johannisen
Trent Stubbs
Jordan Wilson-King
Anthony Long
Jack Lynch
Gavin Roberts
Nathan Krakouer
Daniel Farmer
Lincoln McCarthy
Mark Blicavs
Darren Minchington
Michael Hartley
Sam Michael
Tom Lee
Dominic Barry
Jake Neade
Jed Anderson
Jack Martin
Jesse Hogan
Joe Daniher
Jack Viney
Lachie Hunter
Pacific
Tom Rockliff
Matthew Leuenberger
Chris Dawes
Sam Reid
Shane Savage
Ahmed Saad
Jeremy Howe
Ben Howlett
David Ellard
Todd Banfield
Cameron Wood
Sam Blease
Matthew Jaensch
Rhys Stanley
Tim Mohr
Steve Clifton
Curtly Hampton
Thomas Bugg
Matthew de Boer
Jason Tutt
Jordan Lisle
Jarrod Witts
Luke Brown
Matthew Watson
Tom Nicholls
Anthony Miles
Jamie Elliott
Tom Simpkin
John Anthony
Claye Beams
Matt Campbell
Andrew Strijk
Tom Schneider
Luke Delaney
Jonathan Simpkin
Kelvin Lawrence
Billy Longer
Adam Tomlinson
Tom Mitchell
Mitchell Grigg
Jackson Paine
Nathan Blee
Cameron Ellis-Yolmen
Sam Gibson
Harry Cunningham
PNL
Matt Priddis
Cyril Rioli
Jackson Trengove
Matthew Pavlich
Chris Newman
Heath Grundy
Luke Ball
Kade Simpson
Jarrod Harbrow
Daniel Rich
Justin Westhoff
Matthew Lobbe
Nathan Jones
Dylan Shiel
Phil Davis
Nick Lower
Liam Jones
David Myers
Adam Selwood
Angus Graham
Jarrad Grant
Farren Ray
Christian Howard
Rohan Bail
Tom Lynch
Matthew Panos
Nathan Lovett-Murray
Ayce Cordy
Matt Thomas
Luke McPharlin
Trent Dennis-Lane
Mitch Hallahan
Tyson Goldsack
Marcus Davies
Levi Casboult
Bradley Helbig
Thomas Jonas
Sam Grimley
Andrew McInnes
Tim Segrave
Jonathon Patton
Chad Wingard
Brad McKenzie
Clay Smith
Elliott Kavanagh
Jordan Lockyer
Beau Wilkes
Andrew McQualter
Piva Wright
Adam Pattison
Marley Williams
Sao Paulo
Gary Ablett jnr
Sam Jacobs
David Zaharakis
Jarryd Roughead
Hamish Hartlett
Rory Sloane
Bachar Houli
Andrew Walker
Beau Waters
Scott McMahon
Mitch Duncan
Stephen Hill
Jack Gunston
Alex Silvagni
Jason Porplyzia
Tony Armstrong
Brendan Whitecross
Jared Polec
Mitch Wallis
Matthew Wright
Chris Masten
Will Minson
Andrew Raines
Majak Daw
Bradley Sheppard
Sebastian Tape
Ryan Harwood
Hayden Jolly
Dylan Roberton
Ariel Steinberg
Simon White
Peter Yagmoor
Luke Lowden
Dylan McNeil
Mitchell Carter
Matthew Buntine
Liam Sumner
Taylor Adams
Devon Smith
Shane Kersten
Alex Forster
Jimmy Webster
Brett O'Hanlon
Brendan Lee
Amos Frank
Cameron Shenton
Seoul
Bryce Gibbs
Ben McEvoy
Brett Deledio
Patrick Dangerfield
Josh J Kennedy
Chris Yarran
Tom Scully
James Kelly
Paul Duffield
Joel Corey
Heath Hocking
Xavier Ellis
Jude Bolton
Taylor Hunt
Sam Darley
Jason Gram
Liam Anthony
Nick Maxwell
Matthew Scarlett
Brent Macaffer
Brett Ebert
Luke Power
Charlie Dixon
Luke Thompson
Lachlan Keeffe
Jeremy Taylor
Dawson Simpson
Alwyn Davey
Luke Russell
Rhys Cooyou
Liam Patrick
Nicholas Winmar
Eric MacKenzie
Josh Thomas
George Burbury
Anton Hamp
Stephen Coniglio
Joel Hamling
Murray Newman
Jack Newnes
Jay Lever
Jed Bews
Brad Dick
Fletcher Roberts
Alex Brown
Cameron Sutcliffe
Clancee Pearce
Tokyo
Chris Judd
Sam Mitchell
Matt Suckling
Luke Shuey
Kieran Jack
Jake Carlisle
Ben McGlynn
Kurt Tippett
Trent West
Scott Selwood
Jared Rivers
Alex Fasolo
Luke Dahlhaus
Ted Richards
Nick Suban
Ben Stratton
Tayte Pears
Ashley Smith
Luke Parker
Ricky Henderson
Shaun Hampson
Alex Browne
Tim Golds
Lewis Jetta
Jamie Bennell
Daniel Stewart
Tom Gillies
Andrew Phillips
Adam Kennedy
Steven Motlop
Luke Mitchell
Alik Magin
Luke Davis
Andrew Collins
Jacob Townsend
Lewis Moss
Derick Wanganeen
Sebastian Ross
Jackson Merrett
Nicholas O'Brien
Tom Campbell
Jackson Sheringham
Hal Hunter
Callum Papertalk
Jack Redpath
Toronto
Scott Pendlebury
Andrew Swallow
Paddy Ryder
Jack Riewoldt
Darren Jolly
Jack Ziebell
Mitch Robinson
Michael Jamison
Cameron Pedersen
Nathan Grima
Andrew Embley
Dayne Zorko
Tommy Walsh
Richard Douglas
David Hale
Michael Johnson
Ben Cunnington
Ashley McGrath
Aaron Edwards
Sam Butler
Steven Morris
Clinton Jones
Daniel Nicholson
Jaime MacMillan
Levi Greenwood
Aaron Davey
Ben Johnson
Jesse White
Matt Shaw
David Rodan
Benjamin Speight
Jacob Surjan
Aaron Joseph
Jesse Crichton
Ben Mabon
Matt Maguire
Jacob Gillbee
Tom Hickey
Taylor Hine
Sam Martyn
Tom Curran
Jordan Kelly
Aaron Hall
Justin Clarke
Tom Bell
Frazer Dale
Wellington
Marc Murphy
Hamish McIntosh
Lenny Hayes
Robin Nahas
Isaac Smith
Nathan Foley
Adam Schneider
Josh Drummond
Tendai Mzungu
Brad Green
Andrew Krakouer
Taylor Walker
Michael Doughty
Patrick Karnezis
Leroy Jetta
Mitch Golby
Gerrick Weedon
Campbell Brown
Nick Smith
Travis Colyer
Rory Thompson
Liam Picken
Ben McKinley
Rohan Bewick
Luke McGuane
Shannon Byrnes
Ryan Lester
Niall McKeever
Luke Rounds
Dennis Armfield
Sean Dempster
James Hawksley
Joel Patfull
Mitchell Curnow
Sam Shaw
Jeremy McGovern
Tom Downie
Patrick Wearden
Tom Couch
Andrew Boseley
Jack Crisp
Gibson Turner
Sam Menegola
Jordan Staley
Did you purposely call Buenos Aires Dane Swan, or just a mistake?
Lol mistake
Quote from: ossie85 on November 10, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
I didn't get a PM and i'm co-coach. What's up with that? ???
Only get 20 messages per hour again (as mod for me it was unlimited), so only senior coaches unless the senior coaches tell me otherwise.
Plus the voting is the same every week
Check our team thread.
Massive cheers on the updated team lists ossie. ;D ;D
Makes it much easier when others havent updated their lists. ::)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 10, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
I didn't get a PM and i'm co-coach. What's up with that? ???
Only get 20 messages per hour again (as mod for me it was unlimited), so only senior coaches unless the senior coaches tell me otherwise.
Plus the voting is the same every week
Check our team thread.
How about you guys tell me? I'm not looking through 18 different threads to try and work out who I'm meant to be sending stuff too. Plus you know voting is every week, so it shouldn't matter if I send one out anyway. Your implication that this is my fault is very poor Torp. Hell, I had to look through a couple just to work out you where talking about New Delhi and not Buenos Aires.
Should also point out that ALL senior coaching positions have to be decided by the group, so you can call yourself co-coach all you want, but if you haven't been voted in as senior coach you're not one. Sid/pyronerd is a different situation as pyronerd always took on the senior position with the proviso that if Sid returned he would be coach again.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 10, 2012, 07:32:56 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 10, 2012, 03:08:43 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 10, 2012, 02:25:30 PM
I didn't get a PM and i'm co-coach. What's up with that? ???
Only get 20 messages per hour again (as mod for me it was unlimited), so only senior coaches unless the senior coaches tell me otherwise.
Plus the voting is the same every week
Check our team thread.
How about you guys tell me? I'm not looking through 18 different threads to try and work out who I'm meant to be sending stuff too. Plus you know voting is every week, so it shouldn't matter if I send one out anyway. Your implication that this is my fault is very poor Torp. Hell, I had to look through a couple just to work out you where talking about New Delhi and not Buenos Aires.
Should also point out that ALL senior coaching positions have to be decided by the group, so you can call yourself co-coach all you want, but if you haven't been voted in as senior coach you're not one. Sid/pyronerd is a different situation as pyronerd always took on the senior position with the proviso that if Sid returned he would be coach again.
Sorry bout' that oss, FS will confirm via PM soon.
already voted this week lol
BERLIN trades: Pick 45
LONDON trades: Cale Morton
Reasoning: I thought I heard the last of him lol, but if I'm honest, I think he can get the form he had in 2008-10 for the eagles. A gamble, but one I'm willing to take.
Waiting on 4 coaches. Trade 116 still in limbo, but Trade 117 has passed
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 13, 2012, 02:01:38 PM
BERLIN trades: Pick 45
LONDON trades: Cale Morton
Reasoning: I thought I heard the last of him lol, but if I'm honest, I think he can get the form he had in 2008-10 for the eagles. A gamble, but one I'm willing to take.
Trade Confirmed - Morton was a fringe player. Needed a third round pick with the depth of this years draft so quite happy to trade or pick 45. Bit of a gap from pick 20 to Pick 77 so sets us up nicely for draft.
BERLIN trades: Daniel Talia
PACIFIC ISLANDS trades: Pick 37
Reasoning: I have an abundance of defenders, and in hindsight, my Moloney-Talia swap was a mistake and one I regret. I have concerns on Talia's scoring ability, but his job security for adelaide will be comforting for the Islanders defence.
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 13, 2012, 08:03:27 PM
BERLIN trades: Daniel Talia
PACIFIC ISLANDERS trades: Pick 37
Reasoning: I have an abundance of defenders, and in hindsight, my Moloney-Talia swap was a mistake and one I regret. I have concerns on Talia's scoring ability, but his job security for adelaide will be comforting for the Islanders defence.
Jeez, Brewers, spell much? lol :P
CONFIRMEDYeah, as everyone knows the Islanders defence isn't the greatest and since everyone is tightly holding onto their defenders, we had no choice but look around for cheaper options (no offence to Talia). Being a key defender is a concern, but thats not what we were looking at, we needed someone who was going to play 22 rounds of footy and we feel that we have compensated the Brewers fairly due to this. :)
New Delhi are in need of
- Scoring midfielder
- Young defender
- Scoring forward
Check out our thread, all players available
Chris Knights searching for a new home away from Mexico?
Mexico are looking for a scoring defender to replace Knights.
The Islanders are looking for a decent young scoring defender and midfielder.
We've got depth galore and picks, so PM myself of Master Q with any and all offers.
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Chris Knights searching for a new home away from Mexico?
Mexico are looking for a scoring defender to replace Knights.
sooooooooooo a bag of chicken twisties
not worth cheese ones surely....lol
sorry to derail couldn't help it
Lots of people keen to bring defenders in! :o
Where are they all hiding...
Seoul have an excess of defenders. The following players are seeking new homes for draft picks or youth players, preferably forwards.
Xavier Ellis, Nick Maxwell, Luke Thompson, Nick Winmar, Eric MacKenzie, Jed Bews, Alex Brown.
Make an offer?
Quote from: Sid on November 13, 2012, 11:22:45 PM
Lots of people keen to bring defenders in! :o
Where are they all hiding...
it's a simple case of those that have won't give up and those that want cannot get :P
Quote from: DazBurg on November 13, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Chris Knights searching for a new home away from Mexico?
Mexico are looking for a scoring defender to replace Knights.
sooooooooooo a bag of chicken twisties
not worth cheese ones surely....lol
sorry to derail couldn't help it
Hmm think you're blind to his potential if he can stay fit.
Think you might look like a fool from this comment :P
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:29:27 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 13, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Chris Knights searching for a new home away from Mexico?
Mexico are looking for a scoring defender to replace Knights.
sooooooooooo a bag of chicken twisties
not worth cheese ones surely....lol
sorry to derail couldn't help it
Hmm think you're blind to his potential if he can stay fit.
Think you might look like a fool from this comment :P
lol maca u can quote this.....inconsistent always has been
don't get me wrong can pump a good score
problem is it is every now and then and you honestly think that will improve at richmond?
maybe if jack does a knee otherwise same story different club
but i got no probs you keeping this in mind next year awards will see who gets a nom from the two of us due to this :P
Quote from: DazBurg on November 13, 2012, 11:49:10 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:29:27 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 13, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 13, 2012, 11:02:00 PM
Chris Knights searching for a new home away from Mexico?
Mexico are looking for a scoring defender to replace Knights.
sooooooooooo a bag of chicken twisties
not worth cheese ones surely....lol
sorry to derail couldn't help it
Hmm think you're blind to his potential if he can stay fit.
Think you might look like a fool from this comment :P
lol maca u can quote this.....inconsistent always has been
don't get me wrong can pump a good score
problem is it is every now and then and you honestly think that will improve at richmond?
maybe if jack does a knee otherwise same story different club
but i got no probs you keeping this in mind next year awards will see who gets a nom from the two of us due to this :P
Will be interesting :P
Quote from: Sid on November 13, 2012, 11:22:45 PM
Lots of people keen to bring defenders in! :o
Where are they all hiding...
I've got a few but they're just not very good ones :P
Quote from: roo boys! on November 14, 2012, 08:33:49 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 13, 2012, 11:22:45 PM
Lots of people keen to bring defenders in! :o
Where are they all hiding...
I've got a few but they're just not very good ones :P
I also have a few if you wish to check out the Royals Thread you can see a number available for trade.
Letting everybody know that trades close DECEMBER 2ND, 11:59PM
From there, we ask for list lodgements, with list lodgement cut off being December 15. Drafting can begin earlier than that if all list lodgements have been received, but can't start until the preseason/rookie draft is complete.
Your list lodgement must include:
- All players retired/delisted from AFL clubs that did not find a new home at another club
- All players you want delisted from your own club
- List lodgements can not have any more than 41 players. If you have 41 players, you get ZERO picks in the national draft. If you have 40 players, you have 1 pick in the national draft. If you have 30 players, you get 11 picks in the national draft. Even if you have say picks 2, 20 and 38 - if you have only 2 picks you will not be able to use pick 38.
- Every player must be listed in order of preference. I will use this list to determine late replacements during the year (i.e. if you have run out of emergencies, the next player in will be based on that list).
Fair?
trying to update our team page going through looking for all the trades done
*facepalms*
finally after bout 20 minute si remember ossie lists all the trade on the first page....lol
great work ossman going to make this alot easier to update for me now ;)
Trade 116 passed (5 votes against, with some saying unfair on Seoul, others unfair on Moscow) and Trade 117 had 1 vote against.
Purple, please update front
With first list lodgements + draft day fast approaching would you be willing to discuss the implementation of some kind of rookie list?
Quote from: Sid on November 14, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
With first list lodgements + draft day fast approaching would you be willing to discuss the implementation of some kind of rookie list?
I reckon this can be do-able.
It would be simple though, the 4 or 5 picks in this year's rookie draft would be your rookie list. Say they can only play in place of a LTI, etc...
colour me spastic but I'm confused for all money.
We need our list lodgements BEFORE any of the drafts correct?
So this means that NAT draft is after december 2? (According to key dates ND is November)
QuoteDrafting can begin earlier than that if all list lodgements have been received, but can't start until the preseason/rookie draft is complete.
pre-season/rookie draft is before nat draft then? :-\
Quote- Every player must be listed in order of preference. I will use this list to determine late replacements during the year (i.e. if you have run out of emergencies, the next player in will be based on that list).
Does this have to be done now? What about if you have a player that you don't rate.... but then starts smashing it higher than all your other reserves. Say he's your 6th best back, you have 4 on field, 1 emg where 2 are late withdrawals, but because you rated him 10th 4 or so months before the season proper he's not in contention.
I don't know, just mega confused, please someone straighten me out!
Quote from: Nails on November 15, 2012, 08:29:25 AM
colour me spastic but I'm confused for all money.
We need our list lodgements BEFORE any of the drafts correct?
So this means that NAT draft is after december 2? (According to key dates ND is November)
QuoteDrafting can begin earlier than that if all list lodgements have been received, but can't start until the preseason/rookie draft is complete.
pre-season/rookie draft is before nat draft then? :-\
Quote- Every player must be listed in order of preference. I will use this list to determine late replacements during the year (i.e. if you have run out of emergencies, the next player in will be based on that list).
Does this have to be done now? What about if you have a player that you don't rate.... but then starts smashing it higher than all your other reserves. Say he's your 6th best back, you have 4 on field, 1 emg where 2 are late withdrawals, but because you rated him 10th 4 or so months before the season proper he's not in contention.
I don't know, just mega confused, please someone straighten me out!
Out drafts can't begin until the real drafts are finished.
Before our drafts start, you need a list lodgement.
I'm not going to update the order of preference constantly, so yes do it now as it will be MUCH easier for my compilations. In the end it won't matter Nails, your '6th best backmen' is unlikely to be scoring high, and as only a quarter of there score will count anyway even if by some miracle they score 160 SC points, only 40 would count. If they scored 40 points, only 10 would count.
Looking good oss.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 14, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
Trade 116 passed (5 votes against, with some saying unfair on Seoul, others unfair on Moscow) and Trade 117 had 1 vote against.
Purple, please update front
Did proposition Torp pass?
Quote from: Nails on November 15, 2012, 11:38:46 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 14, 2012, 02:55:48 PM
Trade 116 passed (5 votes against, with some saying unfair on Seoul, others unfair on Moscow) and Trade 117 had 1 vote against.
Purple, please update front
Did proposition Torp pass?
Yes.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 14, 2012, 09:39:13 AM
Well, two coaches haven't voted yet and 1 voted but I couldn't decipher whether he was for or against.
But the results on whether Torpedo10 should be an official co-coach is in...
9 votes for Torpedo10, 5 voted against, 1 getting splinters by sitting on the fence. So even if the other 3 all vote against, Torp is through.
The rules for co-coaching:
- When we are voting for something, the FIRST person to vote out of Torp/Fisher counts. (i.e. if Torp votes first, Fish can't vote at all and vice-versa).
- When teams are entered, the LAST person to change the team counts. Torp might enter a team, but if Fisher enters one later thats the team that counts.
- If one coach organises a trade, the other can't reverse it or vote against it. If pyronerd organises a trade with Maca24, Sid can't later reverse it, or vote against it.
damn.
lol at Proposition Torp, may call all things like this that :)
Final results were 11 Yes, 5 No, 2 Fence sitters
Surely fence sitting should count as not voting?
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 15, 2012, 01:16:37 PM
Surely fence sitting should count as not voting?
For trade voting currently, we are only asking people to vote 'No' - meaning the others are all 'yes' or 'don't care' (fence sitting). I don't really have a problem with it, as long as people have participated in it and replied.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 15, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
lol at Proposition Torp, may call all things like this that :)
Final results were 11 Yes, 5 No, 2 Fence sitters
I'm also confused to why you didn't vote ossie... ???
Quote from: c4v3m4n on November 15, 2012, 04:19:51 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 15, 2012, 12:11:51 PM
lol at Proposition Torp, may call all things like this that :)
Final results were 11 Yes, 5 No, 2 Fence sitters
I'm also confused to why you didn't vote ossie... ???
I would have voted in a tie
Some of you guys NEED some playing backmen. Time is running out to make Moscow an offer for one of our backmen. We may be willing to let go of one for the right deal.
Best 22: Heath Shaw, Robert Murphy, James Frawley, Dustin Fletcher, Jason Blake, Kyle Hardingham, Tom Williams
Fringe: Jack Hombsch, Steven May, Marty Clarke, Jackson Allen, Jack Hutchins, Alex Sexton
Godlike: Richard Tambling
Quote from: meow meow on November 16, 2012, 12:16:24 PM
Some of you guys NEED some playing backmen. Time is running out to make Moscow an offer for one of our backmen. We may be willing to let go of one for the right deal.
Best 22: Heath Shaw, Robert Murphy, James Frawley, Dustin Fletcher, Jason Blake, Kyle Hardingham, Tom Williams
Fringe: Jack Hombsch, Steven May, Marty Clarke, Jackson Allen, Jack Hutchins, Alex Sexton
Godlike: Richard Tambling
Wait does this mean we have a chance to get Hombsch back? :o
Pretty sure if you are after defenders Seoul is the team to talk too ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 16, 2012, 02:37:40 PM
Pretty sure if you are after defenders Seoul is the team to talk too ;)
I told you guys to give me Chris Yarran, but no :P
The Pumas also have 15 defenders currently on their list...
Does anyone like Jordan Murdoch. He is worth a top 20 pick. I need a midfielder/defender.
They are required players but with people looking for backs rance and Chaplin are on the market.
Chaplin was averaging 93 last year before getting injured and some have tipped his move to Richmond being positive for sc. rance is on the edge of good back and premo back he is still young and is capable of making that leap.
If your interested PM me
New trade confirmed with Seoul.
Cairo trades: Pick 52
Seoul trades: Eric Mackenzie
Reason: Just want to make sure we have depth in all positions and am happy to trade away mid NAT picks for younger players.
Confirmed. Have plenty of defensive depth and want some more picks in the Nat.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/151277/default.aspx
He could be at your club in 2013.
Mexico Trades: Mark Lecras and NDS 46
Seoul Trades: Paul Duffield and NDS 33 + 36
Reason: The last thing on our wishlist was a backman, which we have managed to receive. Was certainly our only weak point and with the news of Bartel being a forward, we could afford to give up one of our top forwards.
Quote from: Maca24 on November 18, 2012, 11:56:25 PM
Mexico Trades: Mark Lecras and NDS 46
Seoul Trades: Paul Duffield and NDS 33 + 36
Reason: The last thing on our wishlist was a backman, which we have managed to receive. Was certainly our only weak point and with the news of Bartel being a forward, we could afford to give up one of our top forwards.
Confirmed. Costs us a few spots in the draft, but pleased to have a high quality fwd. Had defensive depth so no huge loss.
Quote from: Spinking on November 19, 2012, 12:08:38 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 18, 2012, 11:56:25 PM
Mexico Trades: Mark Lecras and NDS 46
Seoul Trades: Paul Duffield and NDS 33 + 36
Reason: The last thing on our wishlist was a backman, which we have managed to receive. Was certainly our only weak point and with the news of Bartel being a forward, we could afford to give up one of our top forwards.
Confirmed. Costs us a few spots in the draft, but pleased to have a high quality fwd. Had defensive depth so no huge loss.
That's a ridiculous trade if me ever seen one.
Agreed nails. Spink what are you doing? :o
Hmm, Duffman was a top 6 defender if you remove his sub-affected games, and averaged 114 without Broughton in the team :o
And here come the Stronger teams of the comp to have a teary about another Mexico trade :P
It's got nothing to do with Mexico being part of the trade. It's got to do with the fact that it is a ridiculous trade that shouldn't have occured, no matter which teams it involved.
Trading a top 10 defender (even with his sub affected scores) for a forward who has missed the entire year with an ACL and has never averaged more than 86 in his career (excluding his first year when he played 3 games) is unfair by itself, but then for the team giving away the defender to also give away not one, but two higher draft picks in return for one lower one is down right mad!
Quote from: Maca24 on November 19, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
And here come the Stronger teams of the comp to have a teary about another Mexico trade :P
I don't recall saying anything.
Quote from: meow meow on November 19, 2012, 01:52:20 AM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 19, 2012, 01:26:03 AM
And here come the Stronger teams of the comp to have a teary about another Mexico trade :P
I don't recall saying anything.
Moscow not included ;)
1. Mexico make trade.
2. CF kicks up about it.
3. Complains in thread for everyone to read.
4. Tries to get people to side with his opinion.
5. Fails.
Repeat cycle.
Fair enough comments. The trade seemed fair to us as it met both our needs and Maca's. The voting process is obviously about keeping things fair so if folks feel its one sided they can block it. :)
Let voting do the talking guys, will send out a bit later today
Well, 7 votes in, waiting on 11 coaches, and still trade 121 (Duffield/LeCras) has failed.
Reasons will be given once all votes received.
Maca and Spinking have 48 hours to work it out without interference.
That was quick :o
What a joke.
Quote from: Maca24 on November 19, 2012, 04:02:05 PM
What a joke.
Yes that you thought the trade would go through.
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 19, 2012, 04:41:50 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on November 19, 2012, 04:02:05 PM
What a joke.
Yes that you thought the trade would go through.
If you stop block voting me then maybe they will.
Quote from: Maca24 on November 19, 2012, 04:02:05 PM
What a joke.
Maca, I think you should look at the trades you have done.
You have taken in Scott Thompson (Crows), Corey Enright, Brian Lake, Brent Moloney, Daniel Cross, Steele Sidebottom, Daniel Merrett, Stewart Crameri, Chris Knights and Jordan Russell
You've lost Alan Toovey, Henry Schade, Daniel Talia, James Sellar, Paul Chapman, Shaun Burgoyne, Kyle Hardingham, Josh mellington, Martin mattner, Garrick Ibbotson, Terry Milera, Kyle Reimers, Matthew White, Jarrad Boumann, Ben Howlett and Nathan Foley
You can hardly claim that you've been unable to trade. Particularly since the trades that have been blocked involved you trying to bring in:
Daniel Merrett (which you got in the end)
Brent Harvey (which you got, and on-traded)
Steele Sidebottom (which you got in the end)
The only trade that got blocked that you didn't end up getting the players you wanted was the three-way trade when you tried to bring in Dane Swan, Heath Scotland, Matthew Boyd and Shannon Hurn.
If you are feeling harshly done by, you really shouldn't be.
I don't feel hard done by.
I'm just angry that people try to plead for trades to be negged throughout the thread.
It's not how it should be, leave it for the vote and keep your opinions to yourself.
Bad luck Maca, PM...
Waiting on 5 coaches
But trades 119 and 120 have passed, 118 in limbo
And 118 has passed.
4 coaches left to vote, reasons for 121's rejection will be available after those coaches voted
Purple/c4, please update front :)
I can breathe easy now. Really wanted that 3rd round pick.
A pretty big 3 way deal has been struck between the New Dehli Tigers, the New York Revolution and the Cape Town Cobras!
After hours of discussion, we've struck this:
CTC Give: Pick 15, 17 + Elton
CTC Get: Pick 27 + Bock + Spurr
NYR Give: Melksham + Blair
NYR Get: Picks 15, 26 + Fisher + Elton
NDT Give: Picks 26, 27 + Fisher + Bock + Spurr
NDT Get: Pick 17 + Melksham + Blair
Phew, hope that is all correct :P
Reason:
Really wanted another good scoring defender which I think puts us back into premiership contention (or atleast runner-up to the Suns). Bock gives us that defender, all be it for just a year or two. The addition of Spurr gives added depth, and although we're not sure about his job security, he's shown scoring potential. The pick is just because we wanted something after losing our two first rounders.
And now I'm off for the week lads! I would say PM Ele for any last ditch trades but I think he's leaving somewhere too :P
Quote from: My Chumps on November 23, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
A pretty big 3 way deal has been struck between the New Dehli Tigers, the New York Revolution and the Cape Town Cobras!
After hours of discussion, we've struck this:
CTC Give: Pick 15, 17 + Elton
CTC Get: Pick 27 + Bock + Spurr
NYR Give: Melksham + Blair
NYR Get: Picks 15, 26 + Fisher + Elton
NDT Give: Picks 26, 27 + Fisher + Bock + Spurr
NDT Get: Pick 17 + Melksham + Blair
Phew, hope that is all correct :P
Reason:
Really wanted another good scoring defender which I think puts us back into premiership contention (or atleast runner-up to the Suns). Bock gives us that defender, all be it for just a year or two. The addition of Spurr gives added depth, and although we're not sure about his job security, he's shown scoring potential. The pick is just because we wanted something after losing our two first rounders.
And now I'm off for the week lads! I would say PM Ele for any last ditch trades but I think he's leaving somewhere too :P
Confirmed
Reason: We are giving away 3 very important defenders but are gaining a forward which we need, a very handy midfielder and a top 20 pick. We are also giving away 2 over 25 yo for a National pick, a 21 yo and a 22yo.
Blair now at his 4th club in just a few months!! :o
Don't see why everyone keeps trading him in, I think he is going to be rubbish next season!
Moscow and Cairo have completed a small trade as we near the end of the trade period.
Moscow trade: Bernie Vince and Dayne Beams
Cairo trade: pick #24, Leigh Adams and Callan Ward
Reason: I have always rated the traitor and I think he'll be almost as good as Beams. The pick makes it even and i'll be able to pounce on whoever to slides to 24. Adams averages slightly less than Vince but he's younger, and Bernie is a White Goodman.
Quote from: meow meow on November 24, 2012, 01:31:03 AM
Moscow and Cairo have completed a small trade as we near the end of the trade period.
Moscow trade: Bernie Vince and Dayne Beams
Cairo trade: pick #24, Leigh Adams and Callan Ward
Reason: I have always rated the traitor and I think he'll be almost as good as Beams. The pick makes it even and i'll be able to pounce on whoever to slides to 24. Adams averages slightly less than Vince but he's younger, and Bernie is a White Goodman.
Confirmed. I get a gun. What more is there to say?
Nice trade for both! :)
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 24, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
Quote from: My Chumps on November 23, 2012, 11:07:12 PM
A pretty big 3 way deal has been struck between the New Dehli Tigers, the New York Revolution and the Cape Town Cobras!
After hours of discussion, we've struck this:
CTC Give: Pick 15, 17 + Elton
CTC Get: Pick 27 + Bock + Spurr
NYR Give: Melksham + Blair
NYR Get: Picks 15, 26 + Fisher + Elton
NDT Give: Picks 26, 27 + Fisher + Bock + Spurr
NDT Get: Pick 17 + Melksham + Blair
Phew, hope that is all correct :P
Reason:
Really wanted another good scoring defender which I think puts us back into premiership contention (or atleast runner-up to the Suns). Bock gives us that defender, all be it for just a year or two. The addition of Spurr gives added depth, and although we're not sure about his job security, he's shown scoring potential. The pick is just because we wanted something after losing our two first rounders.
And now I'm off for the week lads! I would say PM Ele for any last ditch trades but I think he's leaving somewhere too :P
Confirmed
Reason: We are giving away 3 very important defenders but are gaining a forward which we need, a very handy midfielder and a top 20 pick. We are also giving away 2 over 25 yo for a National pick, a 21 yo and a 22yo.
confirmed also, sorry forgot last night >.>
reason: We feel we needed more higher picks than what we had )which was very few if any :P) we also gain a quality defender who will help us if we lose some DPP for defenders in the next 2-3 years
Sorry for the delay guys, been bouncing around between the ACT, Vic and Tas the last few days!
POTHEAD didn't vote, he received an official warning.
Trade 118 had 1 vote against, trades 119 and 120 didn't have any, Trade 121 had 10 votes againts.
People who voted against: CrowsFan, FisherSaints/Torpedo10, Hellopplz, Holzman, MajorLzer, meow meow, Nails, Purple 77, Ringo, roo boys!
Reasons include:
- Duffield considered a better fantasy player than LeCras
- LeCras risky due to returning from injury
- Picks too much in Mexico City favour
Quote from: MajorLazer on November 24, 2012, 01:32:12 AM
Quote from: meow meow on November 24, 2012, 01:31:03 AM
Moscow and Cairo have completed a small trade as we near the end of the trade period.
Moscow trade: Bernie Vince and Dayne Beams
Cairo trade: pick #24, Leigh Adams and Callan Ward
Reason: I have always rated the traitor and I think he'll be almost as good as Beams. The pick makes it even and i'll be able to pounce on whoever to slides to 24. Adams averages slightly less than Vince but he's younger, and Bernie is a White Goodman.
Confirmed. I get a gun. What more is there to say?
Fair trade guys! I reckon it probably slides just in Cairo's favour for the gun factor in Beams but a pick, a solid player in Adams who might be DPP and another very good player in Ward is still a pretty fair pass for Vince and Beams.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 14, 2012, 10:31:20 AM
Letting everybody know that trades close DECEMBER 2ND, 11:59PM
From there, we ask for list lodgements, with list lodgement cut off being December 15. Drafting can begin earlier than that if all list lodgements have been received, but can't start until the preseason/rookie draft is complete.
Your list lodgement must include:
- All players retired/delisted from AFL clubs that did not find a new home at another club
- All players you want delisted from your own club
- List lodgements can not have any more than 41 players. If you have 41 players, you get ZERO picks in the national draft. If you have 40 players, you have 1 pick in the national draft. If you have 30 players, you get 11 picks in the national draft. Even if you have say picks 2, 20 and 38 - if you have only 2 picks you will not be able to use pick 38.
- Every player must be listed in order of preference. I will use this list to determine late replacements during the year (i.e. if you have run out of emergencies, the next player in will be based on that list).
Fair?
does this mean we have until the second of december to submit trades or is that when the final deadline is to vote on trades of the previous week (i.e. this week)?
Does that make sense?
Trades CLOSE on December 2nd, 11:59PM - Vic time. On December 3rd, we vote for the last trades.
Quote from: ossie85 on November 26, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
Trades CLOSE on December 2nd, 11:59PM - Vic time. On December 3rd, we vote for the last trades.
thanks
just went to edit the opening post, and had an error about it exceeding 20000 characters...... so I deleted the opening paragraph.
Just letting ppl know
Quote from: Purple 77 on November 26, 2012, 09:59:06 AM
just went to edit the opening post, and had an error about it exceeding 20000 characters...... so I deleted the opening paragraph.
Just letting ppl know
Cheers for that Purple :)
Dublin trade: rookie pick 1
Moscow trade: nat pick 24
reason: pick 1 coudl get colhurn or garlett if they get picked up. Im not sure if garlett will so im after the safety of pick 24, i know i can get someone decent with that pick 24. rookie 1 is too much of a gamble.
Quote from: Holzman on November 26, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
Dublin trade: rookie pick 1
Moscow trade: nat pick 24
reason: pick 1 coudl get colhurn or garlett if they get picked up. Im not sure if garlett will so im after the safety of pick 24, i know i can get someone decent with that pick 24. rookie 1 is too much of a gamble.
Accepted. I am willing to take the risk and hope that the gamble pays off.
Pretty sure people in the pre season draft would take him before it got to the rookie stage...
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 27, 2012, 11:34:05 AM
Pretty sure people in the pre season draft would take him before it got to the rookie stage...
Wait so if Garlett/Colq/Everyone else is taken in the rookie they can still be taken in the ND?
Hope that's not true, makes rookie picks entirely worthless...
No they can't be taken in the national draft, but before the rookie draft there will be the preseason draft for teams that don't have 41 players on their list yet. They could be taken there though I would assume.
People taken in the rookie draft go on to a rookie list anyway so the players are almost worthless since you can't play them...
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 27, 2012, 11:46:54 AM
No they can't be taken in the national draft, but before the rookie draft there will be the preseason draft for teams that don't have 41 players on their list yet. They could be taken there though I would assume.
People taken in the rookie draft go on to a rookie list anyway so the players are almost worthless since you can't play them...
You only can't play them if you don't have a long term injury. I imagine that won't be a problem for most teams
Wait, so the AFL rookies will be available in the WXV PSD, which will be before the WXV rookie draft? In that case I am definitely voting against my trade.
I think so meow, but probably best to get confirmation from Ossie
Quote from: Holzman on November 26, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
Dublin trade: rookie pick 1
Moscow trade: nat pick 24
reason: pick 1 coudl get colhurn or garlett if they get picked up. Im not sure if garlett will so im after the safety of pick 24, i know i can get someone decent with that pick 24. rookie 1 is too much of a gamble.
EDITED TRADE
Moscow trades: Nat pick #24
Dublin trades: PSD pick #1
Quote from: meow meow on November 27, 2012, 02:01:15 PM
Wait, so the AFL rookies will be available in the WXV PSD, which will be before the WXV rookie draft? In that case I am definitely voting against my trade.
Yup, if you want to senior list a rookie AFL player, feel free too.
Quote from: meow meow on November 27, 2012, 02:12:28 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 26, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
Dublin trade: rookie pick 1
Moscow trade: nat pick 24
reason: pick 1 coudl get colhurn or garlett if they get picked up. Im not sure if garlett will so im after the safety of pick 24, i know i can get someone decent with that pick 24. rookie 1 is too much of a gamble.
EDITED TRADE
Moscow trades: Nat pick #24
Dublin trades: PSD pick #1
this is correct
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Are the trades looking good, at this stage?
Quote from: MajorLazer on November 28, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Are the trades looking good, at this stage?
None have been blocked or confirmed yet :/
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on November 28, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Are the trades looking good, at this stage?
None have been blocked or confirmed yet :/
Dang :-\. Usually send mine in on Tues/Wed night sometime as to not hold it up. Probably as not many did trades or coming into holiday time. Hopefully people send it in and not be at risk of being sacked :-X.
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 28, 2012, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on November 28, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Are the trades looking good, at this stage?
None have been blocked or confirmed yet :/
Dang :-\. Usually send mine in on Tues/Wed night sometime as to not hold it up. Probably as not many did trades or coming into holiday time. Hopefully people send it in and not be at risk of being sacked :-X.
Yeah that's a good point HP, has pot sent his in yet Oss?
I can text Pot and tell him to check FF?
Quote from: roo boys! on November 28, 2012, 09:58:00 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on November 28, 2012, 07:03:45 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 06:36:12 PM
Quote from: MajorLazer on November 28, 2012, 03:55:22 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on November 28, 2012, 03:32:41 PM
Still waiting on a fair few coaches to vote...
Are the trades looking good, at this stage?
None have been blocked or confirmed yet :/
Dang :-\. Usually send mine in on Tues/Wed night sometime as to not hold it up. Probably as not many did trades or coming into holiday time. Hopefully people send it in and not be at risk of being sacked :-X.
Yeah that's a good point HP, has pot sent his in yet Oss?
I was talking to Pot earlier this week, not sure why his not responding to oss.....
His not online much Torp.
No, pothead hasn't voted yet. If someone could get him to vote, that would be good! Gets complicated otherwise...
Trade 123 has now passed.
Still waiting on c4v3m4n, My Chumps, Nails, Spinking, pothead
Trade 122 in limbo
Daisy thomas is now a F/M
any buyers for him? 97 this year but 110 last year.
If he goes through the preseason unscathed and doesnt get injured in the season he coudl be a 105-110 average forward.
im looking for a better mid than he is or another forward of around the same value or more (if i add stuff)
38 hours, 15 minutes left of trading perid!
Still waiting on 2 coaches (c4 and My Chumps), and Trade 122 is still in limbo. My Chumps unlikely to vote against his own trade, but still possible
So what is the exact time and date of trade deadline?
Quote from: Maca24 on December 01, 2012, 12:41:54 PM
So what is the exact time and date of trade deadline?
11:59pm Tomorrow, Vic time
Just over 36 hours if I can maths properly. :P
36 hours and 12 minutes if I'm correct
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 10:49:13 AM
38 hours, 15 minutes left of trading perid!
Still waiting on 2 coaches (c4 and My Chumps), and Trade 122 is still in limbo. My Chumps unlikely to vote against his own trade, but still possible
My Chumps is away this week so I don't think he will be voting...
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
Late in the trading period, Cairo and New Delhi have come up with a trade.
Cairo gives: B.Jacobs, R.Bastinac, K.Horsley, C.Dell'Olio
New Delhi gives: Pick 18, J.Gibson, C.Young, O.Stephenson
Reason: Really need some depth across each line and pick 18 is a good pick that may hold some value around the league.
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 01, 2012, 05:47:11 PM
Late in the trading period, Cairo and New Delhi have come up with a trade.
Cairo gives: B.Jacobs, R.Bastinac, K.Horsley, C.Dell'Olio
New Delhi gives: Pick 18, J.Gibson, C.Young, O.Stephenson
Reason: Really need some depth across each line and pick 18 is a good pick that may hold some value around the league.
Confirmed. Rookie, 28yo, 26 yo & 30yo FOR 20yo, 21yo, 25yo & 22yo. Out with the old, in with the youth. :)
Reason: Got some youth and traded away some oldies. Also have a potential young 90+ average midfielder, a youthy defender, another potential midfielder and a very handy forward.
Mexico Trades: Brock McLean and Chris Knights
Cairo Trades: Jed Adcock, Bernie Vince and Pick 18
Reason: I desperately need a backman and Adcock is the man. McLean averages 109 but I think I can cover his absence with a trade tomorrow.
Quote from: Maca24 on December 01, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Mexico Trades: Brock McLean and Chris Knights
Cairo Trades: Jed Adcock, Bernie Vince and Pick 18
Reason: I desperately need a backman and Adcock is the man. McLean averages 109 but I think I can cover his absence with a trade tomorrow.
Confirmed. With Stanley now a back, we have a few backs at Cairo and needed a forward and mid.
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
I didn't receive any PMs from you Ossie... No warning for c4.
BERLIN TRADE: Michael Evans + Pick 50
CAIRO TRADE: Jamie Cripps + Pick 63
Reasoning: Evans was going to be delisted anyway, but he is still a semi-decent player. Cripps average is far from impressive, but I have faith he will increase it for the eagles. Another forward is handy.
Quote from: Purple 77 on December 01, 2012, 09:07:48 PM
BERLIN TRADE: Michael Evans + Pick 50
CAIRO TRADE: Jamie Cripps + Pick 63
Reasoning: Evans was going to be delisted anyway, but he is still a semi-decent player. Cripps average is far from impressive, but I have faith he will increase it for the eagles. Another forward is handy.
Confirmed. Not sure about Cripps' future at the Eagles and I think I recall that Evans knows how to win the ball, if he just gets a chance to do it.
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
I didn't receive any PMs from you Ossie... No warning for c4.
Because you're an assistant. It's still a warning for c4
Why not as it's the last trading period and a few coaches seem to be away, we let all my trades go through without being voted for. ;)
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
I didn't receive any PMs from you Ossie... No warning for c4.
Because you're an assistant. It's still a warning for c4
I'm co-coach.
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
I didn't receive any PMs from you Ossie... No warning for c4.
Because you're an assistant. It's still a warning for c4
I'm co-coach.
This wasn't voted on.
Quote from: Maca24 on December 01, 2012, 09:42:35 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:29:19 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 09:09:15 PM
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 09:05:26 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on December 01, 2012, 01:04:30 PM
Voting has CLOSED
Trade 122 passes, with 5 votes against.
MY CHUMPS and C4V3MAN have official warnings :(
I didn't receive any PMs from you Ossie... No warning for c4.
Because you're an assistant. It's still a warning for c4
I'm co-coach.
This wasn't voted on.
I thought they were introduced together whilst in the drafting period? Could be wrong
When they first joined the game Q was just an assistant.
We never voted for him to become co-coach like with did with torp so he isn't a co-coach...
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
When they first joined the game Q was just an assistant.
We never voted for him to become co-coach like with did with torp so he isn't a co-coach...
Regardless if I am officially co-coach or not, I have voted before, and last time I did Os said I'd be added to the mailing list...
Quote from: Master Q on December 01, 2012, 10:17:13 PM
Quote from: CrowsFan on December 01, 2012, 09:54:00 PM
When they first joined the game Q was just an assistant.
We never voted for him to become co-coach like with did with torp so he isn't a co-coach...
Regardless if I am officially co-coach or not, I have voted before, and last time I did Os said I'd be added to the mailing list...
Given I'm not a mod anymore, I'm restricted by the 20 messages per hour so can't message everyone anymore. I did tell people this.
I also said 3 times in this thread I was waiting for votes, twice I named c4
The voting period is every week,
I asked c4 if he wanted to vote to make you official coach, he said it wasn't necessary
Sorry for any confusion q, I know its hard to keep track of
Sorry for not voting this week Oss and everyone, was away since last Saturday and forgot about this voting :(
Also, I apoligise to anyone that have tried to trade with me over the week. Replying to PM's now if you're on to get a last ditch trade done.
Moscow trades: Dustin Martin
Mexico trades: Aaron Sandilands, Jarrod Waite and pick #46
Reason: Senior ranking officials at Smirnoff wanted bourbon drinking Dusty gone. We get a couple of injury prone old guys to replace him. They're guns when fit and together they should improve the best 15 at Moscow.
Holy shower, massive trade :o
Liking Moscow for the premiership within the next 3 years... Meow is one smart trader.
Quote from: My Chumps on December 02, 2012, 10:07:02 PM
Holy shower, massive trade :o
Liking Moscow for the premiership within the next 3 years... Meow is one smart trader.
Decent trade but Sandi and Waite both VERY injury prone....If these players really fail and Dusty becomes a gun..... Fair trade atm but could end up like the Cotch/JPK trade last year.
Quote from: meow meow on December 02, 2012, 09:40:00 PM
Moscow trades: Dustin Martin
Mexico trades: Aaron Sandilands, Jarrod Waite and pick #46
Reason: Senior ranking officials at Smirnoff wanted bourbon drinking Dusty gone. We get a couple of injury prone old guys to replace him. They're guns when fit and together they should improve the best 15 at Moscow.
CANCELLED
Maca took too long to accept.
That is strange, he is on chat. :o
Like the reasoning though. :P
I couldn't accept.
My rucks would have been to vulnerable.
Sorry Meow.
Mexico Trades: Daniel Cross and Sam Gilbert.
Buenos Aires Trades: Shannon Hurn.
Reason: Gilbert averages 15 less than Hurn. Cross averages 96 and makes that difference up.
Quote from: Maca24 on December 02, 2012, 11:31:59 PM
Mexico Trades: Daniel Cross and Sam Gilbert.
Buenos Aires Trades: Shannon Hurn.
Reason: Gilbert averages 18.9 less than Hurn. Cross averages 96 and makes that difference up.
Confirmed. Hurn should be a top 7 defender next year so is very valuable in our opinion. However we need the quality that Cross offers and feel that Gilbert should be a sufficient D4.
My bad :P
Deal reached between ML and myself.
Toronto Trades: David Hale, Richard Douglas, NAT Pick 44
Cairo Trades: Brock McLean, Clinton Young, NAT Pick 50
Reasoning: With Zorko retaining M/F DPP I had 5 prem forwards and didn't really need Hale so thought it was a chance to get another premium mid in to allow Zorko to swing forward. McLean provides me with that option, a very solid scorer. While I really liked Douglas it had to be done for the trade a Young isn't too much of a downgrade. Pick swap evens it up a little.
Quote from: roo boys! on December 02, 2012, 11:47:02 PM
Deal reached between ML and myself.
Toronto Trades: David Hale, Richard Douglas, NAT Pick 44
Cairo Trades: Brock McLean, Clinton Young, NAT Pick 50
Reasoning: With Zorko retaining M/F DPP I had 5 prem forwards and didn't really need Hale so thought it was a chance to get another premium mid in to allow Zorko to swing forward. McLean provides me with that option, a very solid scorer. While I really liked Douglas it had to be done for the trade a Young isn't too much of a downgrade. Pick swap evens it up a little.
Confirmed. While we feel McLean is a great midfielder, the (assumed) MPP of Hale provides us with great cover in both the rucks and forward line while we feel Douglas can maintain a decent average and be a handy benchy for us.
HP and I have agreed on a deal late in the trade window.
Cairo give: Jonathon Griffin
PNL give: Chris Newman and Rohan Bail
Reason: Newman is still a solid backman depsite his age and Bail could produce something further down the track. Griffin has low JS atm and with Hale (hopefully) coming into the team we can afford to trade him away.
Quote from: MajorLazer on December 03, 2012, 12:34:43 AM
HP and I have agreed on a deal late in the trade window.
Cairo give: Jonathon Griffin
PNL give: Chris Newman and Rohan Bail
Reason: Newman is still a solid backman depsite his age and Bail could produce something further down the track. Griffin has low JS atm and with Hale (hopefully) coming into the team we can afford to trade him away.
Accepted. We badly need a Ruckman and giving up Newman who is a solid defender who had an off year. Also getting older but has new competition in the backline for points. Bail was just to get it over the line, and was likely to be delisted anyway.
Quote from: Maca24 on December 03, 2012, 01:00:21 AM
Mexico Trade: Sandi + Waite.
Moscow Trade: Dustin Martin.
Reason: I want some youth, sucks giving up my ruck though.
21 seconds too late :(
Meow was just teasing I think Nails. :P
But I agree...
The trade deadline was deadline was 11:59pm
Not 12:00:21
Submit it next period.
I meant Meow was having a joke with me, he had no intentions of accepting it.
Oh, fair enough :D
Good thing he didn't typo 'confirmed' and Ossie let it in :o
I wish. Lol.
At least I keep my dominant ruck combo.
And the excitement of the trading period is almost over!
Trades 124, 125, 126, 127, 129 and 130 have passed
Trade 128 is in limbo still
Waiting for four coaches still - c4v3m4n (I've sent one to Master Q this time), CrowsFan, pothead and Spinking (who I've only just sent now to there assistants).
And soon the delistings can begin :)
Fingers crossed!
I was worried when I saw the trades list, that if one trade fell over it meant another 2 or 3 would also. Thankfully that passed!
Yep, that would've been all of my trades down the drain. :P
I made sure that they were not neg worthy so that they would all pass.
And with those trades passed, the draft order is now finalised!
Round Pick Club
1 1 Wellington
1 2 Wellington
1 3 Beijing
1 4 Tokyo
1 5 Pacific
1 6 Pacific
1 7 New Delhi
1 8 London
1 9 London
1 10 Dublin
1 11 Beijing
1 12 Wellington
1 13 Beijing
1 14 Beijing
1 15 New York
1 16 Sao Paulo
1 17 New Delhi
1 18 Mexico City
PP 19 Beijing
2 20 London
2 21 Mexico City
2 22 Beijing
2 23 Tokyo
2 24 Dublin
2 25 Wellington
2 26 New York
2 27 Cape Town
2 28 Beijing
2 29 Wellington
2 30 Dublin
2 31 Sao Paulo
2 32 New York
2 33 Seoul
2 34 PNL
2 35 Tokyo
2 36 Seoul
2 37 Berlin
3 38 Pacific
3 39 Toronto
3 40 Berlin
3 41 Wellington
3 42 Wellington
3 43 Tokyo
3 44 Cairo
3 45 London
3 46 Mexico City
3 47 Tokyo
3 48 Tokyo
3 49 Wellington
3 50 Toronto
3 51 Beijing
3 52 Seoul
3 53 Tokyo
3 54 Cape Town
3 55 Beijing
4 56 Buenos Aires
4 57 Pacific
4 58 Tokyo
4 59 Wellington
4 60 Berlin
4 61 Toronto
4 62 Pacific
4 63 Berlin
4 64 Berlin
4 65 Beijing
4 66 Beijing
4 67 Wellington
4 68 Berlin
4 69 Berlin
4 70 Buenos Aires
4 71 Berlin
4 72 Cape Town
4 73 Mexico City
5 74 Buenos Aires
5 75 Buenos Aires
5 76 Beijing
5 77 London
5 78 Berlin
5 79 Tokyo
5 80 New York
5 81 Cairo
5 82 London
5 83 Cairo
5 84 Beijing
5 85 Wellington
5 86 Buenos Aires
5 87 Beijing
5 88 New York
5 89 London
5 90 Cape Town
5 91 New Delhi
If there is anything wrong, please correct me
Awesome Purple :)
That list above will be added to/subtracted from based delistings made also :)
And with 2 coaches yet to vote (CrowsFan/c4v3m4n) Trade 128 has passed! You two should probably vote anyway for consistency...
All over now guys, will post final lists as I have them
Oh hell yeah! ;D