There have been a few drafts for various sports recently and I have found it run, but this could top it! I want to to an all time footy draft where you pick your 18, from any era and league.
You will have to present a team in structured style and make the best team you can!
1. Monstrum
2. Quinny88
3. 13Brummy
4 .Kellogscrunchynut
5. Mailman the 2nd
6. tbag
Wayne Carey - CHF
Leigh Matthews - Mid, FP
Gary Ablett Senior - FF, FP
Peter Hudson - FF
Ted Witten Snr - CHF, CHB
Barrie Robran - CHF
Round 2
Tony Lockett - FF
Jason Dunstall - FF
Russell Ebert - Mid
Dick Reynolds - Mid/HF
Gordon Coventry - FF
Michael Tuck - Mid
Round 3
Graham "Polly" Farmer - Ruck
Haydn Bunton Snr - Mid
Steven Silvani - FB
Ian Stewart - Mid
Barry Cable - Mid
Ron Barassi - Mid
Round 4
Adam Goodes - Ruck/Mid/FF
Bob Skilton - Mid
Chris Judd - Mid
Matthew Scarlett - FB
Garry Ablett Junior - Mid
John Coleman - FF
Round 5
Robert Harvey - Mid
Simon Madden - Ruck
Jim Stynes - Ruck
Royce Hart - CHF
Malcolm Blight - F
Kevin Bartlett - Mid/HF
Round 6
James Hird - CHF/HF/Mid
Glen Jakovich - CHB
Dermott Brereton - CHF
Albert Collier - CHB
Jack Regan - FB
Vic Thorp - FB
Round 7
Darren Glass - FB
Steven Kernahan - CHF
Bill Hutchison - Mid
Roy Wright - Ruck
Jack Dyer - Ruck
Peter Carey - Ruck
Round 8
Peter Knights - CHB
Greg Williams - Mid
Bruce Doull - HB
Bob Pratt - FF
John Nicholls - Ruck
Glenn Archer - BP
Round 9
Peter Daicos - Forward
Peter Matera - Mid/W
Chris Grant - CHF
Lindsey Head -
Paul Roos - CHB
Fos Williams - Mid
Round 10
Keith Greig - W/HB
Dustin Fletcher - FB
Norm Smith - FF/FP
Bernie Smith - BP
Garry McIntosh - Mid
Darren Jarman - Mid/FF/FP
Round 11
David Dench
Alex Jesaulenko - HF
Nathan Buckley - Mid
Keven Murray - HB
Gary Ayres - BP
Rick Davies - Ruck/forward
Round 12
Mark Ricciuto - Mid/Fwd
Michael Voss - Mid
Darrel Baldock
Ken Farmer - FF
Robert Dipierdomenico - Mid/Wing
Andrew McLoed - Mid HBF
Round 13
Corey Enright - Mid HBF
Doug Hawkins - Mid
Syd Coventry
Francis Bourke - Mid
Michael Aish >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :P
Gavin Wanganeen - F/B
Round 14
Johnathan Brown - CHF
Steven Milne - FP
Ivor Warne-Smith
Albert Thurgood
John Rantall
Paul Kelly
Round 15
Luke Hodge - Risky :P
Geoff Southby - FB
Shane Crawford - Mid
Harold Rumney
Brendan Goddard
Jason Akermanis
Round 16
Simon Black
Kevin Sheedy
Ben Cousins
Craig Bradley
Brad Johnson
Gary Hocking
Round 17
John Platten
Guy McKenna - Nice!
Matthew Pavlich
Reg Hickey
I'd be interested. Coming back on Friday tho
I'll give it a go tbag. Sounds fun, good idea
Something like this?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.0.html
Quote from: whatlez on October 09, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
Something like this?
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.0.html
I'd say that this one would be more open and you wouldn't have to draft a player from each club
I would be up for it tbag!
Id b in, sounds good
Is this gonna happen? I'm keen, do you wanna do it with just the few of us?
Quote from: Sliam on October 09, 2012, 03:11:53 AM
I'd be interested. Coming back on Friday tho
We are the same person btw
Yeah it will happen, was waiting for some more joiners, but we can do it soon!
Ok so we can start soon, if nobody else wants to play how about we start this friday? Or sooner is people want!
Sure I'm good w/ that. I get home at like 7.40pm from work
I'd be keen to start sooner, but still happy to wait
Keen for it.
ok nut man your in! I think we need to be relaxed on the time allowed to draft, but am open to ideas on this as we don't want guys going missing for a week, so you need to draft guys for every position on the ground, so say a McLoued he can play mid or half back etc... the best 18 wins, will work out the judging at some point.
If everyone's ok we can start in a day or two, or three? I was just waiting to see if any more would join
Could be a judge for you tbags
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2012, 12:32:50 AM
Could be a judge for you tbags
Awesome great! Thanks man! Hopefully we see some South Australian bias? ;D
Only Norwood players :P
How manyis there atm?
Quote from: monstrum on October 15, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
How manyis there atm?
Six players, just enough but hopefully more get on board, the other draft was VFL bias so doesn't even count! This one will be the propper one ;D
So we are doing afl&vfl ... ?
And sanfl and wafl I'd assume?
Quote from: monstrum on October 15, 2012, 01:21:26 AM
So we are doing afl&vfl ... ?
No, we are doing any player from any league, so WAFL and SANFL players get a big look in plus anyone else that anyone wants!
We are looking for the greatest players, not the best the VFL has offered up!
Ohok
Well i dont know f/all interstate players unless they've played AFL so thats where ill be drafting from
Might need to do a bit of research then ;)
yeah I know nothing of WA footy, thank God for the "Search" button on the internet ;D
Does Richard Tambling count? :o Maybe Aaron Fiora? Daniel Conners? Fridge how come all the biggest spuds are from Richmond ???
But seriously how does the VFL get all the historical accolades? Anyway this draft will be bigger than Victoria ;)
Because the vfl is like the world's and sanfl and wafl are like Asians and British.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
Because the vfl is like the world's and sanfl and wafl are like Asians and British.
Don't make me ruin your boo count!
I think SA proved in the 80's with all those great vics in the State Of Origin that that is simply not true!
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 15, 2012, 01:43:34 AM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 15, 2012, 01:39:50 AM
Because the vfl is like the world's and sanfl and wafl are like Asians and British.
Don't make me ruin your boo count!
I think SA proved in the 80's with all those great vics in the State Of Origin that that is simply not true!
Don't get me wrong I love S.A. through and through. It's mainly there's more of them then us so it's unfortunately always looked at that way.
Yeah probably JB but it would still be hard to say the VFL has been stronger than the SANFL for 100 years
I got thinking, would people prefer to have the modern day footy seperated? So..
9 players from prior to 1990 and 9 from after 1990? This makes a little bit of sense to me.
Quote from: tbagrocks on October 15, 2012, 01:11:14 AM
Quote from: monstrum on October 15, 2012, 12:53:05 AM
How manyis there atm?
Six players, just enough but hopefully more get on board, the other draft was VFL bias so doesn't even count! This one will be the propper one ;D
Not sure what this is about, there were a hell of a lot of SANFL/WANFL/TFL players picked in the all time draft.
Best of luck though. BR first round 'eh? ;)
Would have thought it's pretty obvious, how many AFL games did Peter Carey play? Or Russell Ebert, Barry Robran, Garry McIntosh? Sorry but there will be no Victorian bias in this draft ;) Even if those players are all South Australian and even may have played VFL! We want the best players here, not the ones who played in Victoria :P
I reckon free it up a bit more than 9/9, maybe say that you have to have at least 4 from each era or something
So this is how the draft order was randomized, we will start now so as soon as the first guy picks we are under way!
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1.Monstrum
2.Quinny
3.13Brummy
4.Kellogscrunchynut
5.Mailman
6.tbag
Timestamp: 2012-10-18 13:43:53 UTC
Dont mind if i do ;D
I had a long think and ill take the one and only!
Wayne Carey!!
I'm gonna be away for the next week :(
So I'm gonna inbox tbag some of my preferences
I'll be on later tonight for mine
Ill take Leigh Matthews!
P.s are we doing this as though we are creating a side? Like picking 6 backman, 6 forwards etc?
Quote from: quinny88 on October 19, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Ill take Leigh Matthews!
P.s are we doing this as though we are creating a side? Like picking 6 backman, 6 forwards etc?
Yes mate best side from back pockets to the Ruck!
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Quote from: quinny88 on October 19, 2012, 07:25:38 PM
Ill take Leigh Matthews!
P.s are we doing this as though we are creating a side? Like picking 6 backman, 6 forwards etc?
Yes mate best side from back pockets to the Ruck!
Awesome
we're all going to have awesome teams lol :P
Quote from: 13Brummy on October 19, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
Hey tbag, as I'm away for the next week I will pm you my top preferences. Please pick the Highest one that hasn't been picked.
Gary ablett snr
So this is Brummy's pick, over to you Kcn :D
I dont want to be that guy who complains all the time, but i dont know if i can commit to this if we're gointotake this long... :-\
Quote from: monstrum on October 20, 2012, 10:38:58 AM
I dont want to be that guy who complains all the time, but i dont know if i can commit to this if we're gointotake this long... :-\
These things are always going to take this long if you don't know who you're playing with
Apologies for lateness been a bit busy recently, with my pick I'll take Peter Hudson.
I'll take Ted Whitten Snr seeing as he can fill the CHF and CHB positions
The one the only
Barry Robran
There's only one Tony Lockett!!
Great picks guys lets keep it moving like this eh ;)
Jason Dunstall
With much regret I do this one! >:(
Quote from: 13Brummy on October 19, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
Hey tbag, as I'm away for the next week I will pm you my top preferences. Please pick the Highest one that hasn't been picked.
Russell Ebert
Dam dam dam dam dam, A little Stewie Griffen quote!
Aren't you snaking the draft?
Dick Reynolds.
I'll pick in 5
I'll get my FF down in Gordon Coventry
He's still there! I thought he would go early ??? any way...
Michael Tuck
Never saw this guy but i heard he was ok, good handballi hesr!!
Polly Farmer
Im glad this guy slipped through to me.
Haydn Bunton sr.
3 brownlow medals
3 sandover medals
What a gun!
Quote from: quinny88 on October 25, 2012, 04:24:42 AM
Im glad this guy slipped through to me.
Haydn Bunton sr.
3 brownlow medals
3 sandover medals
What a gun!
Nice one Quinny!
Quote from: 13Brummy on October 19, 2012, 09:23:12 AM
Hey tbag, as I'm away for the next week I will pm you my top preferences. Please pick the Highest one that hasn't been picked.
Steven silvagni
and
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on October 23, 2012, 06:51:08 PM
Cheers man and I won't be on after this until most likely friday night so I'll chuck down some options for later picks in order
2. Ian Stewart.
Hoping that this will help the draft move along quicker.
I'll go Barry Cable cause we allowed to do WAFL/VFL yeah?
He's one of the best ruck rovers going round
Might have to go with this guy
Ron Barassi
Adam Goodes
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Adam Goodes
wow. Bit risky ;)
Risky? ??? Im pretty sure he's proven himself :P
I wouldn't put him in my best 30 of all time (and I'm a swans supporter) but thats up to you :)
Bob skilton
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Adam Goodes
wow. Bit risky ;)
Risky? ??? Im pretty sure he's proven himself :P
I just think people have a problem with regarding any current day players with someone from the past.
Its almost like the day they retire they become 10% better.
Goodes, Judd, Ablett , Cox will all be known as some of the best to ever play the game. Just might need a few years of retirement for everyone to recognise it
I wouldn't put him in my best 30 of all time (and I'm a swans supporter) but thats up to you :)
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Adam Goodes
wow. Bit risky ;)
Risky? ??? Im pretty sure he's proven himself :P
I just think people have a problem with regarding any current day players with someone from the past.
Its almost like the day they retire they become 10% better.
Goodes, Judd, Ablett , Cox will all be known as some of the best to ever play the game. Just might need a few years of retirement for everyone to recognise it
I wouldn't put him in my best 30 of all time (and I'm a swans supporter) but thats up to you :)
Goodes still isn't really in the league of SM/Syd greats as Skilton, Williams or Belcher.
I'd put Ablett in the top 30 ever, but none of the others
I'd say some nice picks, surely Goodes with two Brownlows and two Premierships, has to be one of the greats I think
Yeah hard to judge a Goodes, Ablett, Swan, Brown types but they will have great legaceys I', sure
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Adam Goodes
wow. Bit risky ;)
Risky? ??? Im pretty sure he's proven himself :P
I just think people have a problem with regarding any current day players with someone from the past.
Its almost like the day they retire they become 10% better.
Goodes, Judd, Ablett , Cox will all be known as some of the best to ever play the game. Just might need a few years of retirement for everyone to recognise it
I wouldn't put him in my best 30 of all time (and I'm a swans supporter) but thats up to you :)
Goodes still isn't really in the league of SM/Syd greats as Skilton, Williams or Belcher.
I'd put Ablett in the top 30 ever, but none of the others
really? I would say he's the best to ever play for Sydney. Not Sth Melb though. Anyway were getting a bit off topic lol
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Adam Goodes
wow. Bit risky ;)
Risky? ??? Im pretty sure he's proven himself :P
I just think people have a problem with regarding any current day players with someone from the past.
Its almost like the day they retire they become 10% better.
Goodes, Judd, Ablett , Cox will all be known as some of the best to ever play the game. Just might need a few years of retirement for everyone to recognise it
I wouldn't put him in my best 30 of all time (and I'm a swans supporter) but thats up to you :)
Goodes still isn't really in the league of SM/Syd greats as Skilton, Williams or Belcher.
I'd put Ablett in the top 30 ever, but none of the others
really? I would say he's the best to ever play for Sydney. Not Sth Melb though. Anyway were getting a bit off topic lol
Greg Williams, Tony Lockett and Paul Kelly would be higher but he is one of the best of the modern era
I have Goodes in front Of Kelly, and I know how good he was!
But please guys don't mention past players as it takes from the draft! Thanks.
Torn between two modern mids, but I'm gonna go for Chris judd.
Going to have to go for Matthew Scarlett.
I'll be up soon
I'll take Gary Ablett Junior now.
Will need a Full Forward so I'll take the great
John Coleman
Robert Harvey
Simon Madden
I'll take the only ruckman to win a brownlow (I think),
Jim Stynes
Quote from: 13Brummy on October 28, 2012, 05:39:04 PM
I'll take the only ruckman to win a brownlow (I think),
Jim Stynes
Nope! ;D Goodesy for starters, and I'm not naming un drafter players :P But nice pick!
The last proper ruckman to win a brownlow was after stynes ;) and it wasnt goodes. Pretty sure it was 1992 :P there was another ruckman who got the most votes in the brownlow even more recently than that as well ;)
Goodesy wasn't a ruckman when he was in brownlow form. I was torn between stynes and madden so I'm glad someone chose for me
Yes Goodes won his first Brownlow playing in the Ruck, then the rules were changed so Roos I think said he won't play Ruck anymore!
Goodes played significantly in the ruck in '03 and a bit in '06 so he probably counts as a Ruckman/winger/forward
You guys heard of a guy named ******* ****? ::)
Please don't spoil names Torps
Plus he was only named as emergency on the team of the century for his club. there are better out there still
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on October 28, 2012, 06:42:12 PM
Please don't spoil names Torps
Plus he was only named as emergency on the team of the century for his club. there are better out there still
He was named the No.1 Ruck is Western Bulldogs/Footscray history, not EMG. ::) ::) ::)
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Please don't spoil names Torps
Plus he was only named as emergency on the team of the century for his club. there are better out there still
He was named the No.1 Ruck is Western Bulldogs/Footscray history, not EMG. ::) ::) ::)
He was good. But there are still better ::)
I'll take the Champion centre half forward Royce Hart.
I'll take Malcolm Blight for da forward pocket
I stick a guy in at Half Forward
Kevin Bartlett
James hird :o
Glen Jakovich
Dermott brereton
Albert "Leeter" Collier the great magpie centre half back.
Can't half tell that it's a young crowd picking these teams :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2012, 09:08:11 PM
Can't half tell that it's a young crowd picking these teams :P
Hey I've picked one player whom has played past 1980.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on October 30, 2012, 09:08:11 PM
Can't half tell that it's a young crowd picking these teams :P
After 6 rounds the best FB and the best FF are both still available.
Amazing. :o
I'll take Jack Regan almost finished the spine
Struggling with this decision but I'll take
Vic Thorp
Darren glass 8)
Steven kernehan
I'll take Bill Hutchison, two time brownlow medallist and described by the modest Dick Reynolds as Essendon's greatest ever player.
I'm going to take Roy Wright the champion Richmond ruckman whom took out the Brownlow medal in 1952 and 1954.
Jack Dyer
Meh Jack Dyer meh!! Here's why, and I'd better take him now, in an un Victorian bias Draft he would go top 10 maybe 15, the greatest Ruckman of all time, the SANFL leading games holder, 19 games for SA
the one, the only, Glenelg Legend (Of course Cornsey rates him the best eva)
Peter Carey
Why am I not surprised he comes from the SANFL?
I'd probably pick Dyer first
You're acting like the world revolves around the VFL ::) it's like round 7 and I get the Great Peter Carey, like my second SANFL player in seven rounds ::), If you thought Dyer was so good why wait till now! I only got Carey cos your all hacks ;D
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 01, 2012, 11:11:35 PM
You're acting like the world revolves around the VFL ::) it's like round 7 and I get the Great Peter Carey, like my second SANFL player in seven rounds ::), If you thought Dyer was so good why wait till now! I only got Carey cos your all hacks ;D
I don't really know much about the SANFL, apart from players like Robran, Ebert and Cornes since it's difficult to know a heap about as a Victorian and I'm even worse with the WAFL.
tbh I'm from NSW
I really know flower all about VFL, SANFL and WAFL
My knowledge of afl from 2003 onwards is massive but I don't really know much about the past :(
I think it's a bit like cricket but with cricket you get the best playing with each other at Test level, harder with footy so pre even 1990 unless your like as old as Grazz :P it's more hearsay and gossip on who was great, of course the internet helps ;D
But this is just a game and I'm having fun ;D Don't listen to my banter I'm just a stirrer ::) But yeah P. C was a Champ 8)
Peter knights
I dnt think he's been picked? Couldnt see his name....?
Ill take Greg Willams
Quote from: quinny88 on November 02, 2012, 11:26:39 PM
Ill take Greg Willams
I guess what goes around comes around :(
Dirty drew will take a four time bnf and premiership winner (I think/hope so) with Carlton inBruce Doull
A dirty drew that has had a few ;)
Forward pocket of Sydneys team of the century, Bob Pratt.
John Nicholls
Glen Archer
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 03, 2012, 12:54:01 PM
Glen Archer
You mean Glenn Archer? ;)
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Tbag is right though, while the VFL was the premier competition for the better part of the 20th century there have been great players to come out of the WA(N)FL, SANFL, TFL and even the VFA. It's kind of stupid that players coming out of leagues other than the VFL don't get the same recognition.
You don't have to look far to find out who these players are either by the way. ;)
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Glen Archer
You mean Glenn Archer? ;)
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Tbag is right though, while the VFL was the premier competition for the better part of the 20th century there have been great players to come out of the WA(N)FL, SANFL, TFL and even the VFA. It's kind of stupid that players coming out of leagues other than the VFL don't get the same recognition.
You don't have to look far to find out who these players are either by the way. ;)
Perhaps you should direct them to our draft. That was hands down the best draft ever done. Me with my 7 power forwards. :P
Peter daicos
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Glen Archer
You mean Glenn Archer? ;)
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Tbag is right though, while the VFL was the premier competition for the better part of the 20th century there have been great players to come out of the WA(N)FL, SANFL, TFL and even the VFA. It's kind of stupid that players coming out of leagues other than the VFL don't get the same recognition.
You don't have to look far to find out who these players are either by the way. ;)
Perhaps you should direct them to our draft. That was hands down the best draft ever done. Me with my 7 power forwards. :P
Do you have a link for that team? I'm curious ;D
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Glen Archer
You mean Glenn Archer? ;)
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Tbag is right though, while the VFL was the premier competition for the better part of the 20th century there have been great players to come out of the WA(N)FL, SANFL, TFL and even the VFA. It's kind of stupid that players coming out of leagues other than the VFL don't get the same recognition.
You don't have to look far to find out who these players are either by the way. ;)
Perhaps you should direct them to our draft. That was hands down the best draft ever done. Me with my 7 power forwards. :P
Do you have a link for that team? I'm curious ;D
Well there are two that I have done. One actually had 8 tall forwards... :o
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,38704.msg532850.html#msg532850
...this one was much more balanced with just the 6. :P
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44558.0.html
I love the era's idea that you had going.
FK my teams good. Wish i got G Jako though! I took the punt on letting him slip and took harvey instead and quinny took him the very next pick lol!
Poor move on my part!
Has everyone got a spine drafted!?
Quote from: monstrum on November 03, 2012, 06:00:00 PM
FK my teams good. Wish i got G Jako though! I took the punt on letting him slip and took harvey instead and quinny took him the very next pick lol!
Poor move on my part!
Has everyone got a spine drafted!?
Haha sorry mate, its happened to me a few times don't worry ;)
Ill take Peter Matera
Chris grant
The three time Magarey Medalist Lindsey Head.
I'll take
Paul RoosCurrent team
Back: ____ , Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: _____, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: _______, Gary Ablett Jnr., _____
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, _____
Foll: Jack Dyer, ______, Barry Cable
Real sorry guys been busy today, well I'll take Port Adelaide legend and 7 time Premiership player (one with West Adelaide), 34 state games for SA
Fos Williams
I thought i was imagining things! Im still not convinced this guy isnt gone!!
Keith Greig
Quote from: monstrum on November 04, 2012, 07:51:19 PM
I thought i was imagining things! Im still not convinced this guy isnt gone!!
Keith Greig
Nice score! I would have had him next :-\
Ill finish my spine with Dustin Fletcher at FB
I'll take norm smith for the forward pocket
I'll take Bernie Smith at back pocket.
Well I'll take Garry McIntosh as my ruck rover (there's some SANFL for you tbags ;) )
Back: ____ , Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: _____, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: _______, Gary Ablett Jnr., _____
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, _____
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Legend there Mails! One of if not the hardest man to ever play.
I will take one of the most skillful onn-ball/forwards who could win a game by himself
Darren Jarman
Thought you'd like him :P
One of my favourites as a kid mails ;)
David Dench
Had to read over the list a few times to make sure this guy hadn't been picked..
Alex Jesaulenko
B: __________ Dustin Fletcher _________
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera - Greg Williams _________
HF: Alex Jesaulenko - Steven Kernahan _________
FF: Leigh Matthews - Jason Dunstall _________
R: Simon Madden - Bob Skilton- Haydn Bunton Snr
Nathan Buckley
FB: __________ - Stephen Silvagni - __________
HB: Nathan Buckley - Chris Grant - Bruce Doull
C: __________ - Russell Ebert - __________
HF: __________ - Dermott Brereton - __________
FF: Norm Smith - Gary Ablett Snr - __________
Foll: Jim Stynes - Chris Judd - Bill Hutchison
Int: __________ - __________ - __________ - __________
Kevin Murray.
Giving me
FB: Bernie Smith - Matthew Scarlett - __________
HB: ] _________ - Albert Collier - Kevin Murray
C: __________ - Lindsey Head - __________
HF: __________ - Royce Hart - __________
FF: Bob Pratt - Peter Hudson - __________
Foll: Roy Wright - Ian Stewart - Dick Reynolds
Only problem, but I did not specify is that I wanted an 18 based on player positions, so Norm Smith at only FF and Jesaulenko at CHF and not the flank, but...
I did not specify so lets continue!
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 06, 2012, 11:29:15 PM
Only problem, but I did not specify is that I wanted an 18 based on player positions, so Norm Smith at only FF and Jesaulenko at CHF and not the flank, but...
I did not specify so lets continue!
He is named on the half forward flank in the team of the century..?
I understand keeping it specific to the position but in some cases its almost impossible to pick a player that played permanent forward flank or forward pocket etc
Yeah you're right Quinny, that's to much to ask, but a guy like say Wayne Carey is only CHF and a Chris Judd is only Mid, so no relaxing on these types,
BTW I have Buckley as a Mid only so either convince me or the judges otherwise! Will struggle to see a Jesaulenko type out of position but let the judges decide.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 12:07:56 AM
Yeah you're right Quinny, that's to much to ask, but a guy like say Wayne Carey is only CHF and a Chris Judd is only Mid, so no relaxing on these types,
BTW I have Buckley as a Mid only so either convince me or the judges otherwise! Will struggle to see a Jesaulenko type out of position but let the judges decide.
Yeah I understand players like Carey being one position players only but their has to be leniency with most positions. Putting Jesaulenko on a flank has to be considered acceptable considering he is named there in the team of the century.
I think it should be ok to also have, for example, Silvagni at full back and someone like Scarlett in the back pocket. If you have managed to snag both then good on you, its not as if you wouldn't play Scarlett in a pocket despite it not being the position he spent most of his career in. Its hard to pick pocket and flank players at both ends so there definitely needs to be leniency there
Well Buckley has 7 All-Australian appearances, two of which are on the half back flank, so I think it should be fair that I can name him there
Quote from: 13Brummy on November 07, 2012, 12:29:42 AM
Well Buckley has 7 All-Australian appearances, two of which are on the half back flank, so I think it should be fair that I can name him there
Agree. I think provided the player spent some time in that position they should be able to be picked there
Going through team's of the century for a few clubs I've noticed that many clubs will name two of their great full backs on the field, but one of them being in the pocket for instance Carlton have Silvagni and Southby both on the field with Southby in the pocket.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 07, 2012, 12:40:36 AM
Going through team's of the century for a few clubs I've noticed that many clubs will name two of their great full backs on the field, but one of them being in the pocket for instance Carlton have Silvagni and Southby both on the field with Southby in the pocket.
Yeah exactly, I think thats perfectly ok personally
I don't like being able to have a Hudson, Dunstall and Lockett in the forward line when Daicos, Milne etc.. I guess I wanted to challange the drafter rarther than just have Scarlett as the back pocket, Buckley at HB etc..
Anyway, carry on!
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 12:57:44 AM
I don't like being able to have a Hudson, Dunstall and Lockett in the forward line when Daicos, Milne etc.. I guess I wanted to challange the drafter rarther than just have Scarlett as the back pocket, Buckley at HB etc..
Anyway, carry on!
Yeah definitely see where your coming from tbag, its a hard task though to pick specific positional players when there are better options that aren't necessarily famous for that position..
I guess that's the struggle the AA selectors go through each year
Quote from: quinny88 on November 07, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 12:57:44 AM
I don't like being able to have a Hudson, Dunstall and Lockett in the forward line when Daicos, Milne etc.. I guess I wanted to challange the drafter rarther than just have Scarlett as the back pocket, Buckley at HB etc..
Anyway, carry on!
Yeah definitely see where your coming from tbag, its a hard task though to pick specific positional players when there are better options that aren't necessarily famous for that position..
I guess that's the struggle the AA selectors go through each year
I'm sure that's a hard one every year mate! Wasn't Dangerfield at HF this year despite playing the whole year at the clearence!
Guess it will always be controversial so we do the best we can ;) But surely a move like Cox in the forward line etc is a no no.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 07, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 12:57:44 AM
I don't like being able to have a Hudson, Dunstall and Lockett in the forward line when Daicos, Milne etc.. I guess I wanted to challange the drafter rarther than just have Scarlett as the back pocket, Buckley at HB etc..
Anyway, carry on!
Yeah definitely see where your coming from tbag, its a hard task though to pick specific positional players when there are better options that aren't necessarily famous for that position..
I guess that's the struggle the AA selectors go through each year
I'm sure that's a hard one every year mate! Wasn't Dangerfield at HF this year despite playing the whole year at the clearence!
Guess it will always be controversial so we do the best we can ;) But surely a move like Cox in the forward line etc is a no no.
There's definetly a fine line bout oh well, lets just finish the teams and make those judgements at the end I guess
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 01:16:07 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 07, 2012, 01:06:20 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 07, 2012, 12:57:44 AM
I don't like being able to have a Hudson, Dunstall and Lockett in the forward line when Daicos, Milne etc.. I guess I wanted to challange the drafter rarther than just have Scarlett as the back pocket, Buckley at HB etc..
Anyway, carry on!
Yeah definitely see where your coming from tbag, its a hard task though to pick specific positional players when there are better options that aren't necessarily famous for that position..
I guess that's the struggle the AA selectors go through each year
I'm sure that's a hard one every year mate! Wasn't Dangerfield at HF this year despite playing the whole year at the clearence!
Guess it will always be controversial so we do the best we can ;) But surely a move like Cox in the forward line etc is a no no.
Perhaps just let people name players where they want but having players out of position/poor team balance leads to point deduction during final judging?
eg.
A forward line of Milne, Daicos and my mystery best FF (still unpicked) would be rated higher than a forward line of Lockett, Coleman and Wade.
Similarly, a back line with Smith, Wacka Scott and Southby is better than a back line consisting of Dench, SOS and Regan.
However, a forward line with Lockett/Coleman/Wade is still better than one with Marsh, Reynolds and Judd.
Of course at the same time there are players that played in positions consistently without being permanently stationed there. Old time ruckmen spent a whole lot of time in the back pocket as well, if you happened to draft one of those blokes I'd argue you should be able to play him there (as a second ruckman) without a point deduction.
Your draft though, so ultimately up to you. :)
Yeah as far as I'm aware John Nicholls spent a large portion of time resting in the back pocket
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 07, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
Yeah as far as I'm aware John Nicholls spent a large portion of time resting in the back pocket
Yeah he did, all ruckman did in those days.
You do know its your turn dont you mailman?
Quote from: Sid on November 03, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Can't believe he hasn't been picked yet either and it is in to round 11 and had over 60 players picked!! There's one person in this who I would have thought would have taken him by now!
Quote from: quinny88 on November 08, 2012, 12:23:50 AM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 07, 2012, 07:45:31 AM
Yeah as far as I'm aware John Nicholls spent a large portion of time resting in the back pocket
Yeah he did, all ruckman did in those days.
You do know its your turn dont you mailman?
Oops sorry :-[
I'll be picking around 3pm sorry school and stuff
Gary Ayres
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: _____, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: _______, Gary Ablett Jnr., _____
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, _____
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 08, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 03, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Can't believe he hasn't been picked yet either and it is in to round 11 and had over 60 players picked!! There's one person in this who I would have thought would have taken him by now!
Racked my brains for who you lot are talking about and I think I've got an idea.
Hmmm not sure so I'll just take
Rick Davies
B: Archer, V. Thorp, ____,
HB: ____, ____, ____,
C: ____, F. Williams, ____
HF: ____, Robran, Bartlett,
F: Jarman, Coleman, R. Davies,
R: P. Carey, Barassi, Tuck
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 08, 2012, 12:55:35 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 03, 2012, 01:35:35 PM
Best full forward still not picked, although I suppose you could make an argument for Hudson as well.
Can't believe he hasn't been picked yet either and it is in to round 11 and had over 60 players picked!! There's one person in this who I would have thought would have taken him by now!
I've mentioned him 3 or 4 times in this thread and still not picked! People must just be totally unaware of his existence. :-\
Is he from Sydney/south melbourne?
Nope
Then I don't really care who it is :P
So are we happy to post our full/progressing teams in this thread or should we make a thread for the teams?
Just post em up here
This is agonising waiting for your turn when you know what player you want lol
Quote from: quinny88 on November 09, 2012, 10:03:27 PM
This is agonising waiting for your turn when you know what player you want lol
Yeah! I'm sure the guys that participated in a 15's draft know all about it! Though with that 15's draft we may never have the chance to do that again, and you can keep the team as long as FF is running ;D But the whole drafting wether the NBA, Cricket or footy drafts, it's just so much fun, I'm having a blast!
What do you recon Quinny? Do you even have time for FF with your Gabba commitments? ;D What are the chances of your guy going before you get him?
Pretty sure the mystery forward is from Collingwood.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 09, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on November 09, 2012, 10:03:27 PM
This is agonising waiting for your turn when you know what player you want lol
Yeah! I'm sure the guys that participated in a 15's draft know all about it! Though with that 15's draft we may never have the chance to do that again, and you can keep the team as long as FF is running ;D But the whole drafting wether the NBA, Cricket or footy drafts, it's just so much fun, I'm having a blast!
What do you recon Quinny? Do you even have time for FF with your Gabba commitments? ;D What are the chances of your guy going before you get him?
Yeah im loving it mate, never done one of these before its good fun.
Haha I try to balance my cricket and FF pretty well ;)
The chances of my guy going arent probably as high as I think but everytime I think of a good player to suit a position I cant help but worry he will get snatched up haha
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 10, 2012, 12:27:20 AM
Pretty sure the mystery forward is from Collingwood.
Don't you think that if Collingwood had the best ff ever that there would be a little fanfare over him? :P
I would've given it to Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson. Ablett or Coleman.
But I guess I'm pretty clueless :(
Have to look further out...
There's actually two that should have been picked one that is obviously the best ever and one that has pretty similar numbers.
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 10, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
I would've given it to Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson. Ablett or Coleman.
But I guess I'm pretty clueless :(
Not clueless at all your spot on.
The person these guys are talking about is quite clearly NOT the best full forward of all time.
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 10, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
I would've given it to Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson. Ablett or Coleman.
But I guess I'm pretty clueless :(
Not clueless at all your spot on.
The person these guys are talking about is quite clearly NOT the best full forward of all time.
Like you would know ::) Typical Victorian bias ::)
Newsflash, Victoria is not the only place great footballers have played ::)
Can I just join in the draft now and you give me 10 picks in a row? He will be my first picked...
Quote from: CrowsFan on November 10, 2012, 02:36:00 PM
Can I just join in the draft now and you give me 10 picks in a row? He will be my first picked...
Don't think we can do that but you're welcome to judge the outcome ;D Or lend assistance to some of the coaches. :P, But I've still got some gems to come ;D
My moneys on c.f. if he got 10 picks in a row :P
Alright now I've figured it out, Victorian bias out the window.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 02:28:23 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 02:16:26 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 10, 2012, 09:46:24 AM
I would've given it to Lockett, Dunstall, Hudson. Ablett or Coleman.
But I guess I'm pretty clueless :(
Not clueless at all your spot on.
The person these guys are talking about is quite clearly NOT the best full forward of all time.
Like you would know ::) Typical Victorian bias ::)
Newsflash, Victoria is not the only place great footballers have played ::)
Im not from victoria you moron!
I know who they are talking about and although his record is amazing he is NOT the best full forward to play the game.
News flash for you.... The vfl/afl are the best leagues this country had/has. Anything outside was 2nd rate
Not before the 70s when the vfl started buying other players before that they were all somewhat equal.
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 10, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Not before the 70s when the vfl started buying other players before that they were all somewhat equal.
Thats a personal opinion.
If you look through the history books the vfl/afl are the records that are reguarded as the true records for Australian rules football. The others arent even kept with them because it was and is the best league. If he was that good he would have come across to the big time. Comparing any league to vfl/afl is like comparing local footy records to afl records
Can people please stop hinting at players and putting their 2 cents in during the draft.
It's up to the people involved to pick who they think their personal best 18 are without the influence from others. Leave the judgements out until after its finished before telling us who we have missed out on and done wrong.
P.s Monstrum... are you still alive ?
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 10, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Not before the 70s when the vfl started buying other players before that they were all somewhat equal.
Thats a personal opinion.
If you look through the history books the vfl/afl are the records that are reguarded as the true records for Australian rules football. The others arent even kept with them because it was and is the best league. If he was that good he would have come across to the big time. Comparing any league to vfl/afl is like comparing local footy records to afl records
Um, they don't use the VFL records because it was the 'best league'.
I'm sorry but arguing the VFL has always been the premier league is just ignorant, and that's coming from a Victorian. :-X
You dont think the vfl was the premier league? (before afl)
I think Gordon Coventry is good enough :'(
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 08:35:20 PM
You dont think the vfl was the premier league? (before afl)
First I just want to clear this up -
VFL --> AFL
VFA --> VFL
That's why they use the VFL records, not because it was the best league. ;)
Anywho, no I don't think it was the strongest league throughout the enture century. Even if you do think that, his interstate record was equally as impressive, his goals per game was good enough there to (hypothetically) kick 100 in a season as well.
Now, was the VFL at a higher standard than even interstate football? :o
Quote from: Sid on November 10, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 10, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Not before the 70s when the vfl started buying other players before that they were all somewhat equal.
Thats a personal opinion.
If you look through the history books the vfl/afl are the records that are reguarded as the true records for Australian rules football. The others arent even kept with them because it was and is the best league. If he was that good he would have come across to the big time. Comparing any league to vfl/afl is like comparing local footy records to afl records
Um, they don't use the VFL records because it was the 'best league'.
I'm sorry but arguing the VFL has always been the premier league is just ignorant, and that's coming from a Victorian. :-X
(http://t.qkme.me/35rauu.jpg)
In their haydays, the WAFL and the SANFL were comparable (in strength) if not better than the VFL.
Most sensible people that know their footballing history know this.
Quote from: c4v3m4n on November 10, 2012, 08:57:42 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 10, 2012, 08:19:37 PM
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 07:35:29 PM
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 10, 2012, 07:16:31 PM
Not before the 70s when the vfl started buying other players before that they were all somewhat equal.
Thats a personal opinion.
If you look through the history books the vfl/afl are the records that are reguarded as the true records for Australian rules football. The others arent even kept with them because it was and is the best league. If he was that good he would have come across to the big time. Comparing any league to vfl/afl is like comparing local footy records to afl records
Um, they don't use the VFL records because it was the 'best league'.
I'm sorry but arguing the VFL has always been the premier league is just ignorant, and that's coming from a Victorian. :-X
(http://t.qkme.me/35rauu.jpg)
In their haydays, the WAFL and the SANFL were comparable (in strength) if not better than the VFL.
Most sensible people that know their footballing history know this.
What era are you talking about here? From when till when was the wafl and sanfl as good as the vfl?
SANFL+ WAFL being stronger than VFL? I mean, that's not something that is really quantifiable, but I'd personally doubt that statement.
I mean in all three states, AFL is the major primary and dominating sport right?
well WA has (atm) a population of 2.4 million, SA of 1.6 million and Victoria of nearly 5.6 million.
all of their growth rates are close enough to linear and at roughly the same % increase, to be approximated as remaining proportional to back when VFL, SANFL and WAFL existed without the AFL.
logically, considering victoria has more than double the population of WA, and more than triple of SA, assuming that australians are about evenly distributed in skill and athleticism (which there's no real reason to say otherwise), over a sample size that huge, it would be completely justified to assume that for every good footballer at the elite level WA produced, victoria produced 2 of, and for every good footballer in SA, Vic produced 3 of, on average.
So logically, assuming all competitions had the same number of teams/ the same sized squads (this is the only thing I'm not certain on), Victoria, due to its higher population and subsequently more diverse talent pool to select from, would have a significantly higher calibre of football teams and populations.
I mean, you can see the validity of these state talent productions in modern football- there are far less NSW and QL footballers than there should be given our large population- it's not because we're less skill or talented, it's because rugby dominates so much that the talent pool for AFL is significantly decreased.
I know people are going to be like- yeah, you can say that, but you didn't see the competitions, the players etc. etc. etc. but basically you're all going to be either biased on this issue, misinformed, stubborn, stupid or a combination of all 4- we're talking about victoria having more than twice as many people, MILLIONS more as a population basis.
I mean, obviously you're going to have year by year discrepancies etc.
but it can be seen here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_matches_in_Australian_rules_football#Inter-league_competition.2C_1879.E2.80.931976
that victoria won a majority of its interstate games... although, that could have been since it had more money to get better players from elsewhere.
statistically, you can't really compare them on individual performances like 'SA had player XYZ who averaged 30 disposals a game while VIC had only A averaging 30 + disposals', as logically in a weaker competition it would be easier for a player to dominate more, even if of an inferior quality.
that's all.
you can try to convince me otherwise, but I'll just call you a flowering idiot, so I would suggest not to bother.
actually, the point about SA and WA footballers moving to victoria because of more opportunities is moot- it still increases the quality of VFL and decreases SANFL/ WAFL.
the age ratio (from 20-35, so footballing age), is currently pretty similar as well. Although obviously that'll vary for whatever reasons yearly.
I couldn't find any information on racial demographics, but it's probably best to leave that out anyway lol...
it wouldnt be significantly different though.
Thankyou zip! Thankyou for explaining the one and only dominant reason for the vfl being superior to the sanfl and wafl....
More population = bigger talent pool.
The money side of things and players coming across to the vfl wasnt so much an issue earlier on in the games history but the fact was and still does remain that the population of victoria is and always has been far larger than s.a and w.a therefore the talent pool was and always will be mach larger. So yes. The vfl was always a better league than the sanfl and wafl
Mark ricciouto
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 08:35:20 PM
You dont think the vfl was the premier league? (before afl)
No, and get the hell out of my draft thread you moron!
Quote from: TeeJay on November 10, 2012, 10:03:02 PM
Thankyou zip! Thankyou for explaining the one and only dominant reason for the vfl being superior to the sanfl and wafl....
More population = bigger talent pool.
The money side of things and players coming across to the vfl wasnt so much an issue earlier on in the games history but the fact was and still does remain that the population of victoria is and always has been far larger than s.a and w.a therefore the talent pool was and always will be mach larger. So yes. The vfl was always a better league than the sanfl and wafl
you can still see it today- look at the under 18s AA teams- VIC will come out with the most AA nearly every time- that's why the get split into 2 teams for it.
By this logic India would be dominating world cricket but they don't!
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:21:43 PM
By this logic India would be dominating world cricket but they don't!
Thats because
A. India's population mostly live in poverty
B. They dont have the opportunities western civilization has in sport. Its not funded as much
C. They arent as genetically gifted for sport as other countries.
The genetics, funding and average talent for sport is no different from state to state in Australia. It simply comes down to talent pool size.
indias a different scenario
firstly, they do pretty well at cricket
but secondly, because of their cast system and ridiculously uneven distribution of wealth, the majority of indians won't ever get the opportunity to seriously take up a sport like cricket- they don't have the luxury, a lot of them wouldnt be able to afford the equipment, and a lot more would be too busy working to spend the time to reach an elite level.
on top of that you have genetic differences between the races, which could mean that some races are more suited to some sports than others.
a poor analogy since you're comparing extremely different demographics, while australian states have quit uniform demographics.
A better example is China at the olympics- as a semi communist country (nowadays anyway), wealth while not being evenly distributed, isn't anywhere near as bad as india. As well as that china doesn't have as stringent a cast system (although there is kind of one), and are very incessent to prove to the world they're superior, so have a lot of elite athlete programmes (to the degree that they've been suspected of eugenics). Hence why they dominate at the international stage in the olympics.
Even that's not great, but it's an example.
Basically, cultural, genetic and economical factors are going to effect the quality of sportsmen an area produces- VIC, SA, WA are relatively uniform in all those factors (obviously there are discrepancies, but not substantial ones in comparison to international levels), which means that the biggest difference is going to be probability due to the substantial % differences in population size.
Ok I'll be more realistic, why hasn't England always dominated the cricket?
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Ok I'll be more realistic, why hasn't England always dominated the cricket?
England suck at every sport they've created :P
Guys please, have the debate somewhere else.
Monstrum you made my fear come true! :'( Roo was the man I wanted for the half forward flank haha.
Oh well I have a backup.
Ill take Michael Voss
B: __________ Dustin Fletcher _________
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera - Greg Williams _________
HF: Alex Jesaulenko - Steven Kernahan - Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews - Jason Dunstall _________
R: Simon Madden - Bob Skilton- Haydn Bunton Snr
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Ok I'll be more realistic, why hasn't England always dominated the cricket?
Why are you comparing cricket between 2 different parts of the planet when were talking about aussie rules between 2 states right next to each other? Your going off track.
The genetics are the same, the opportunities are the same the demographic is the same. The only difference is the population is 5 times the size in vic and therefore had and still has better footballers come out of it. Its simple really
Please, just stop embarrassing yourself ::)
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Please, just stop embarrassing yourself ::)
Im embarassing myself? Haha mate you think everyone is "victorian bias" and called me that when im not even from victoria.
Its the dominating state for Aussie rules and it always has been, I can openly admitt that without being from there.
carry on with your draft anyway. I was quite enjoying checking in to see how the teams were coming along every now and then. And the people that keep chipping in saying how the people doing this draft should have this and that player stfu and stick your nose out.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:42:02 PM
Ok I'll be more realistic, why hasn't England always dominated the cricket?
england isnt actually a huge country, they dont even have a population of 100 million and they're unhealthy as flower as well.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 10:59:17 PM
Please, just stop embarrassing yourself ::)
you're the one embarrassing yourself.... this is a really simple concept mate.
Yeah a concept you're not getting, Victoria has not always been the better state and for long periods was not the ferior league you seem to think, all you're stating is an opinion and good judges will say that is simply not the case
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:17:38 PM
Yeah a concept you're not getting, Victoria has not always been the better state and for long periods was not the ferior league you seem to think, all you're stating is an opinion and good judges will say that is simply not the case
When was the vfl not the dominant league? From what year till what year??
Im yet to hear it.
When was the VLF the better league, from what year to what year? I'm yet to hear it :P
I'm not stating an opinion dude.
Almost nothing I've said has been opinionated.
unlike everything you say.
I'm going to leave this now so I dont flower with your draft thing anymore.
I'm not denying that SANFL/ WAFL had great footballers- I'm saying that VFL would have been pumping out more, and on top of that had more migrating over for opportunities.
and, as I said, this is still demonstrated today through the U18 AA team
2012- 9 Vic, 7 SA, 3 WA
2011- 11Vic, 6 SA, 2WA
2010- 11 Vic, 5 SA, 1WA
2009-7 Vic, 4 SA, 9 WA
2008- 10 Vic, 3 SA, 6 WA
Total: Vic- 48, SA- 25, WA-21
Average: Vic- 9.5, SA- 5, WA- 4.2
past 5 years- obviously not all these guys have or will make it to an elite level, but it's probably the best way to demonstrate the quality of victoria vs the other states. But even a relatively small sample size (110) like that is already showing a clear trend.
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
When was the VLF the better league, from what year to what year? I'm yet to hear it :P
From day dot!
The very early days the vfl and vfa was a bit unstable with teams coming in and out, and swapping around but from 1896 onwards the vfl was the dominant league over the vfa and every other league in the country. Its not an opinion, its fact. The vfl atracted players from other states very soon after as it was reguarded as the best league. So perhaps you can argue that the sanfl was better or as good roughly pre 1900 but after that there is no argument. The vfl was the dominant league
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
When was the VLF the better league, from what year to what year? I'm yet to hear it :P
1995- 2008, victoria didn't lose an interstate game, that was post AFL though.
So, pre AFL, in VFL eras was before 1990.
1977-1989
Victoria- 39 interstate games, 24 wins, 62% win ratio
SA- 13 games, 7 wins, 54% win ratio
however, those games include Pre-afl games against tasmania (in which from 1977-1989 only ever beat queensland), and SA played 2 against tassie, while vic played 4.
so discounting those games, you leave vic with 35 games, 20 wins, 57%
SA 11 games, 5 wins, 45%
whether or not you choose to remove tasmania (which proves my point again about population), is your own decision. Doesn't really change that much.
Considering the best Win: lose ratio for an AFL club is collingwood on 61%, that's pretty much domination by victoria on 62%. That being said, 54% isn't bad, AFL win % wise, that'd be 6th.
if you remove the bottom teams though (which I really think we should with such a small sample size), that puts SA an equivalent of 14/21, right below fitzroy, while victoria would be sitting at = 3rd.
I'm using the AFL clubs WL ratios since it's statistically the most comparable for this statistic.
and now I really am leaving.
FTR, I got my data from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_matches_in_Australian_rules_football#Inter-league_competition.2C_1879.E2.80.931976
and
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/allteams/overall_wl.html (for the comparison to AFL teams).
and I know that technically doesn't compare VFL/ SANFL, but it's literally the best you can do from a non-biased objective.
Discuss it here guys
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,69137.0.html
This thread has been hijacked which is a bit unfair on those participating
Yep and I apologise to the other coaches participating. Btw it's 13Brummy's turn
This thread is hilariously sad.
Quote from: Boomz on November 11, 2012, 01:49:16 AM
This thread is hilariously sad.
You have a giant knob with arms and legs as your display picture. Thats whats sad
Oh just shut up everyone. I'll take Darrel Baldock.
Now is the time for me to pick the forward that Boomz, CF, JB, Sid, and C4v3m4n were talking about who is none other than Ken Farmer. With 1,419 goals in 224 matches for North Adelaide for an average of 6.33 goals per game in a career spanning over the years 1929 to 1941. Complimentary to this outstanding provisional record he also went on to kick 81 goals from 17 games playing for South Australia. The greatest bag of goals kicked by him was a staggering 23 against West Torrens, whilst also kicking 10 or more goals 35 times in his career.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 10, 2012, 11:58:27 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
When was the VLF the better league, from what year to what year? I'm yet to hear it :P
1995- 2008, victoria didn't lose an interstate game, that was post AFL though.
So, pre AFL, in VFL eras was before 1990.
1977-1989
Victoria- 39 interstate games, 24 wins, 62% win ratio
SA- 13 games, 7 wins, 54% win ratio
however, those games include Pre-afl games against tasmania (in which from 1977-1989 only ever beat queensland), and SA played 2 against tassie, while vic played 4.
so discounting those games, you leave vic with 35 games, 20 wins, 57%
SA 11 games, 5 wins, 45%
whether or not you choose to remove tasmania (which proves my point again about population), is your own decision. Doesn't really change that much.
Considering the best Win: lose ratio for an AFL club is collingwood on 61%, that's pretty much domination by victoria on 62%. That being said, 54% isn't bad, AFL win % wise, that'd be 6th.
if you remove the bottom teams though (which I really think we should with such a small sample size), that puts SA an equivalent of 14/21, right below fitzroy, while victoria would be sitting at = 3rd.
I'm using the AFL clubs WL ratios since it's statistically the most comparable for this statistic.
and now I really am leaving.
FTR, I got my data from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_matches_in_Australian_rules_football#Inter-league_competition.2C_1879.E2.80.931976
and
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/allteams/overall_wl.html (for the comparison to AFL teams).
How about you prepare results prior to the 70s, during the 70s/80s it wasn't state of origin it was just vfl players vs sanfl players so the vfl could play all the players they bought in. Try the records before the vfl started buying players.
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 11, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
Now is the time for me to pick the forward that Boomz, CF, JB, Sid, and C4v3m4n were talking about who is none other than Ken Farmer. With 1,419 goals in 224 matches for North Adelaide for an average of 6.33 goals per game in a career spanning over the years 1929 to 1941. Complimentary to this outstanding provisional record he also went on to kick 81 goals from 17 games playing for South Australia. The greatest bag of goals kicked by him was a staggering 23 against West Torrens, whilst also kicking 10 or more goals 35 times in his career.
Finally!! Kicked 100 goals in a season in 11 consecutive seasons!! Was held goalless just once, and that was after getting injured in the first 10 minutes of the game and not playing any part of it. Has a better goals per game ratio than Hudson (who has scored the most), but Hudson scored a lot of those goals in the Tasmanian league, which I think we can all agree on as being weaker than the other three ;)
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 11, 2012, 02:38:29 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 10, 2012, 11:58:27 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 10, 2012, 11:27:27 PM
When was the VLF the better league, from what year to what year? I'm yet to hear it :P
1995- 2008, victoria didn't lose an interstate game, that was post AFL though.
So, pre AFL, in VFL eras was before 1990.
1977-1989
Victoria- 39 interstate games, 24 wins, 62% win ratio
SA- 13 games, 7 wins, 54% win ratio
however, those games include Pre-afl games against tasmania (in which from 1977-1989 only ever beat queensland), and SA played 2 against tassie, while vic played 4.
so discounting those games, you leave vic with 35 games, 20 wins, 57%
SA 11 games, 5 wins, 45%
whether or not you choose to remove tasmania (which proves my point again about population), is your own decision. Doesn't really change that much.
Considering the best Win: lose ratio for an AFL club is collingwood on 61%, that's pretty much domination by victoria on 62%. That being said, 54% isn't bad, AFL win % wise, that'd be 6th.
if you remove the bottom teams though (which I really think we should with such a small sample size), that puts SA an equivalent of 14/21, right below fitzroy, while victoria would be sitting at = 3rd.
I'm using the AFL clubs WL ratios since it's statistically the most comparable for this statistic.
and now I really am leaving.
FTR, I got my data from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_matches_in_Australian_rules_football#Inter-league_competition.2C_1879.E2.80.931976
and
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/allteams/overall_wl.html (for the comparison to AFL teams).
How about you prepare results prior to the 70s, during the 70s/80s it wasn't state of origin it was just vfl players vs sanfl players so the vfl could play all the players they bought in. Try the records before the vfl started buying players.
Jb, jb, jb. You idiot. Have a look in the thread created for this debate before opening your mouth. Victoria dominated state of origin for a century. We moved on from talking about this in here
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on November 11, 2012, 11:56:43 AM
Now is the time for me to pick the forward that Boomz, CF, JB, Sid, and C4v3m4n were talking about who is none other than Ken Farmer. With 1,419 goals in 224 matches for North Adelaide for an average of 6.33 goals per game in a career spanning over the years 1929 to 1941. Complimentary to this outstanding provisional record he also went on to kick 81 goals from 17 games playing for South Australia. The greatest bag of goals kicked by him was a staggering 23 against West Torrens, whilst also kicking 10 or more goals 35 times in his career.
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdawqz6Go01r18f7qo1_500.gif)
No offence to you Kellogs, you joined the dots and picked yourself a good full forward but I am slightly annoyed now that our draft has been affected and compromised because of the banter and hinting from people in this thread.
Ken Farmer simply wouldn't have been picked up had the topic not been brought up.
I dont mind you having him, it's certainly not your fault but can the people that are not part of the draft and the people involved for that matter, keep their opinions to themselves until the end of the draft. Completely unfair on all of us that are participating. These are our teams that we should do our own research on and form ourselves without any outside influence from other FanFooty members.
It is quite annoying seeing as its obvious why we aren't picking these players due to a variety of factors.
Please make your own thread rather than spamming this one
I'll make my pick soon
Robert DiPierdomenico
I'll chuck him on a half back flank, my favorite player of all time
Andrew McLoed
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 11, 2012, 08:04:31 PM
I'll chuck him on a half back flank, my favorite player of all time
Andrew McLoed
Damn you! thats the 4th time my player I was going to pick next has been taken from me haha
Oh good (for me ;D) I would be unhappy if I missed out on him
corey enright
Doug Hawkins
B: __________ Dustin Fletcher _________
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera - Greg Williams - Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko - Steven Kernahan - Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews - Jason Dunstall _________
Foll: Simon Madden - Bob Skilton - Haydn Bunton Snr
Syd Coventry. Named in the back pocket and captain of Collingwood's team of the century.
Also Tbag, I see you've got Chris Grant named at CHF - I would like him at CHB
Ok, well we can put a player where ever we like but it's up to the judges to determine the out come, team structure will come in to it.
Ok we'll he spent a large portion of his career in the backline so I'm assuming the judges won't have an issue with it
Picking Francis Bourke on the wing can't believe that Quinny hasn't picked him up yet.
So I am looking like this:
B: Bernie Smith Matthew Scarlett _________
HB: __________ Albert Collier Kevin Murray
C: Francis Bourke - Lindsey Head - __________
HF: _____________ - Royce Hart - __________
FF: Bob Pratt - Ken Farmer Peter Hudson
Foll: Roy Wright - Ian Stewart - Dick Reynolds.
I'll throw some more SANFL stuff in there with Michael Aish
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: _____, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, _____
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no fridge flower toad!
Just pick James :P
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on November 14, 2012, 10:28:31 PM
Just pick James :P
The Llamas will ;) but
I' will have
Robert Harvey
Oh dear, I'm not even reading my own thread :P well then
Gavin Wanganeen
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 14, 2012, 11:16:28 PM
Oh dear, I'm not even reading my own thread :P well then
Gavin Wanganeen
NOoooooooooooooooo.
Wakey wakey Monstrum.. ;D
i acctually was asleep all day :D
i'll have a quick look...
i didn't realize it was my shot for sooooo long :-[
Jonathon Brown! :D
Quote from: monstrum on November 17, 2012, 07:00:41 PM
i acctually was asleep all day :D
i'll have a quick look...
i didn't realize it was my shot for sooooo long :-[
Haha yea it tends to go through everyone pretty quickly
This one is hard for me to admit but there is no doubting he is the best specialist forward pocket to ever play the game.
Steven Milne
B: __________ Dustin Fletcher _________
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
I'll have Ivor Warne-Smith. Won a Brownlow in a premiership year for Melbourne in 1926 and then another one as captain in 1928.
Picking Albert Thurgood at Half Forward Flank easily the best player of his time and the first true superstar of the VFL.
I got crap loads of work so I'll be on later to pick
Sorry about the wait. John Rantall
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, _____
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Paul Kelly
Luke Hodge
Geoff Southby
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby _________
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
Stephen Kernahan
Damn. Well then ill have Shane Crawford
Harold Rumney from the pies to take up the other back pocket position.
Lindsay Head although I'm not exactly sure what position I'd play him in
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Lindsay Head
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Jason Akermanis
Simon black! 8)
Kevin Sheedy
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby Kevin Sheedy
HB: __________ Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
Backs: - Archer - V Thorp - Wanganeen
H/Back: - ____ - ____ - McLeod
Ruck: - P Carey - Barassi - F Williams
Centre: - Tuck - Kelly - ____
H/Fwd: Bartlett - Robran - Akermanis
Frwd: Jarman - Coleman - R Davies
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 20, 2012, 08:06:42 PM
Lindsay Head although I'm not exactly sure what position I'd play him in
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Lindsay Head
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Lindsey Head was taken in round 9 by kellogscrunchynut
And I'll take Ben Cousins
Quote from: 13Brummy on November 20, 2012, 10:19:02 PM
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 20, 2012, 08:06:42 PM
Lindsay Head although I'm not exactly sure what position I'd play him in
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos _____,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward:____, Ted Whitten Snr,_____
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Lindsay Head
Foll: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Lindsey Head was taken in round 9 by kellogscrunchynut
true I'll have to re-pick.
Sorry but it'll have to wait until tomorrow morning as I'm going out in 5 minutes
Don't worry, I wasn't going to pick Cousins, Sheedy, Black or Aker
Quote from: 13Brummy on November 20, 2012, 10:23:52 PM
And I'll take Ben Cousins
DAMMMMMMMMITTTT!!!!!!! ::)
Thought id get him for sure :(
I'll just take Goddard instead
Continue the draft
Craig Bradley.
Brad Johnson
Budda Hocking
now I'm off to the Adelaide oval ;D
Johnny Platten!
Guy McKenna
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby Kevin Sheedy
HB: Guy McKenna Glen Jakovich _________
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
FB: D.Dench D.Glass C.Enright
HB: L.Hodge P.Knights _______
C: S.Black A.Goodes K.Grieg
HF: M.Ricciuto W.Carey J.Hird
FF: J.Brown T.Lockett P.Daicos
FOL: G.Farmer R.Harvey J.Platten
Lol every one's going to need a half back for the final round!
lol yeh pretty much ;)
i have 2 blokes in mind hopefully i get 1
Earth to 13Brummy.. :P
Well I will give Brummy 24 hours to pick or we will skip, I send another pm to inform this, so by this time tomorrow we can move on!
sorry about that fellas i forgot to say that i was away over the weekend
matthew pavlich
Quote from: 13Brummy on November 27, 2012, 10:57:31 PM
sorry about that fellas i forgot to say that i was away over the weekend
matthew pavlich
My bad, you did send me that Pm about being away, sorry guys!
Picking Reg Hickey to finish my defense.
B: Bernie Smith Matthew Scarlett Harold Rumney
HB: Reg Hickey Albert Collier Kevin Murray
C: Francis Bourke - Lindsey Head - Craig Bradley
HF: _____________ - Royce Hart - Albert Thurgood
FF: Bob Pratt - Ken Farmer Peter Hudson
Foll: Roy Wright - Ian Stewart - Dick Reynolds.
Sorry guys I got a bit slack, front page updated!
My pick is it?
May have to wait a bit due to the fact I'm overloaded with HSC exams
So skip my pick or two for now and I'll come back to it later sorry
I really don't want to just skip a bloke! Have sent a Pm to Mails
Also My turn next and with two more picks I have two absolute legends lined up! ;)
Surely in the time it took to log on and make that post he could hav just picked. He said skip so i think we skip, after ur pick theres only 1 pick left each! Lets gets this thing wrapped up
Ok well, Mails has confirmed by Pm to continue the draft so, my turn....
And at Half Back I will take a six time B & F, four time Premiership player and three time Magarey medalist
from the Norwood football club
Walter Scott
:P ;D
Jimmy bartel
Quote from: monstrum on November 23, 2012, 03:30:12 AM
FB: D.Dench D.Glass C.Enright
HB: L.Hodge P.Knights J.Bartel
C: S.Black A.Goodes K.Grieg
HF: M.Ricciuto W.Carey J.Hird
FF: J.Brown T.Lockett P.Daicos
FOL: G.Farmer R.Harvey J.Platten
Quote from: monstrum on November 28, 2012, 10:15:55 PM
Jimmy bartel
He is one of my favorites and my favorite to not come from SA ;D, well maybe Pete Matera and Aka but Jimmy is my man!
Yeh same here , except all that stuff bout SA ;)
Quote from: monstrum on November 28, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Yeh same here , except all that stuff bout SA ;)
Where do you think Don Bradman (yes I know he grew up in NSW but spent most his life in Adelaide) and Bart Cummings are from ;)
Fwd: Norm Smith Gary Ablett Snr Matthew Pavlich
H fwd: Darrel Baldock Dermott Brereton
Mid: Ben Cousins Russell Ebert Shane Crawford
H back: Nathan Buckley Chris Grant Bruce Doull
Back: Syd Coventry Steven Silvagni Ivor Warne-Smith
Foll: Jim Stynes Chris Judd Bill Hutchison
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 28, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: monstrum on November 28, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Yeh same here , except all that stuff bout SA ;)
Where do you think Don Bradman (yes I know he grew up in NSW but spent most his life in Adelaide) and Bart Cummings are from ;)
Hate to break it to you, but NSW is credited for where Bradman is from, not SA :P
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on November 28, 2012, 11:37:03 PM
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 28, 2012, 10:28:48 PM
Quote from: monstrum on November 28, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Yeh same here , except all that stuff bout SA ;)
Where do you think Don Bradman (yes I know he grew up in NSW but spent most his life in Adelaide) and Bart Cummings are from ;)
Hate to break it to you, but NSW is credited for where Bradman is from, not SA :P
Most definitely, but like all good wine he saw the error of his ways and spent most of his life in SA ;)
last time I checked he was called 'The Boy from Bowral' :P
should SA really be boasting about how he happened to die in their state? :P
Let's not get into this state v. state stuff again.
We're nearly finished the draft
Quote from: Ziplock on November 28, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
last time I checked he was called 'The Boy from Bowral' :P
should SA really be boasting about how he happened to die in their state? :P
Well he was here for what was it, 60, 70, 80 years? He just loved us so much he stayed ;D
didnt he become extremely reclusive?
maybe he just thought SA was the best place to be away from society and civilisation :P
why are we talking about bradman? :S
Quote from: Ziplock on November 29, 2012, 12:08:14 AM
didnt he become extremely reclusive?
maybe he just thought SA was the best place to be away from society and civilisation :P
why are we talking about bradman? :S
In other words somewhere to enjoy life :P
Well someone tried to bag us once again so I simply pointed out a couple of legends like Brads and Cummings ;D
Trevor Barker
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby Kevin Sheedy
HB: Guy McKenna Glen Jakovich Trevor Barker
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
Side complete at long last! Pretty happy with it :D
Quote from: quinny88 on November 29, 2012, 03:20:30 AM
Trevor Barker
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby Kevin Sheedy
HB: Guy McKenna Glen Jakovich Trevor Barker
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
Side complete at long last! Pretty happy with it :D
Nice player Quinny
I'll have lance franklin
For my final pick I'll take one of my favourite tigers in Matthew Richardson.
B: Bernie Smith Matthew Scarlett Harold Rumney
HB: Reg Hickey Albert Collier Kevin Murray
C: Francis Bourke - Lindsey Head - Craig Bradley
HF: Matthew Richardson - Royce Hart - Albert Thurgood
FF: Bob Pratt - Ken Farmer Peter Hudson
Foll: Roy Wright - Ian Stewart - Dick Reynolds.
First time that I've done one of these drafts didn't plan to have a forward line full of power forwards, although overall I am pleased with this team.
Well Mails has said before to continue the draft and he will pick when ever he gets a chance so, that makes it my pick again!
This guy is an absolute legend and did spend his last five years at CHB once returning fro Noth Melbourne
Graham Cornes
Gavin Wanganeen - Vic Thorp - Glenn Archer
Andrew McLeod - Graham Cornes - Walter Scott
Peter Carey - Fos Williams - Ron Barassi
Michael Tuck - Paul Kelly - Gary Hocking
Jason Akermanis - Barrie Robran - Kevin Bartlett
Darren Jarman - John Coleman - Rick Davies
Ok well that's it! Well played everyone it has been very enjoyable, though we still need Mailman to pick his final two players the draft is over
Please post your final teams here and the judges can have a look and work out how to decide! I believe they are JB's Hawks and Sid
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 30, 2012, 09:09:42 PM
Ok well that's it! Well played everyone it has been very enjoyable, though we still need Mailman to pick his final two players the draft is over
Please post your final teams here and the judges can have a look and work out how to decide! I believe they are JB's Hawks and Sid
Is that the only 2 deciding tbag? I think we should all vote 3,2,1 on which team we like best (obviously cant vote our own team) Or maybe even just 1 point to second favourite team, 2 points to favourite team. Some sort of system like that anyway. Just gives a broader view on which team comes out on top.
Its up to you though, your draft :)
That's interesting, how does this sound, JB and Sid each elvaluate the teams out of ten, and the six coaches vote 3-2-1 on their choice as best team not counting their own, the scores added together for each team to determine a winner
also I was thinking of putting the teams in the FB and opening up a poll for the public to vote, but that could be seperate!
My full team:
Fwd: Norm Smith Gary Ablett Snr Matthew Pavlich
H fwd: Darrel Baldock Dermott Brereton Lance Franklin
Mid: Ben Cousins Russell Ebert Shane Crawford
H back: Nathan Buckley Chris Grant Bruce Doull
Back: Syd Coventry Steven Silvagni Ivor Warne-Smith
Foll: Jim Stynes Chris Judd Bill Hutchison
Quote from: tbagrocks on November 30, 2012, 10:42:29 PM
That's interesting, how does this sound, JB and Sid each elvaluate the teams out of ten, and the six coaches vote 3-2-1 on their choice as best team not counting their own, the scores added together for each team to determine a winner
also I was thinking of putting the teams in the FB and opening up a poll for the public to vote, but that could be seperate!
Yeah sounds good to me mate, but like I said its your draft
It's been a pleasure partaking in this draft with you guys like I said earlier it's the first that I've ever done and things didn't always go as planned, although I never ran out of ideas for places. Tried to mix it up with eras and was at one stage considering a VFA player from the 1870's, worked more or less with some decades being more favored than others.
I'll be picking my two soon :)
I'll pick up Todd Viney and Jack Mueller
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos, Brendon Goddard ,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward: Todd Viney, Ted Whitten Snr, Jack Mueller
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 01, 2012, 10:16:06 AM
I'll pick up Todd Viney and Jack Mueller
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos, Brendon Goddard ,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward: Todd Viney, Ted Whitten Snr, Jack Mueller
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
You're missing a line
So I am
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos, Brendon Goddard ,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward: Todd Viney, Ted Whitten Snr, Jack Mueller
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
Followers: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
For a second I thought you were talking about the young Viney.
haha you wish :P
All the teams are posted on Pg 21, 22 and Mons pg 20
So I will get JB and Sid to score each team out of 10, and the rest of us to give a vote of 3-2-1 to the teams you think are best not including your own, maybe do it via pm to me to keep it not bias
Just posting all of the teams below so I can see them all in the same place and compare them :)
Team: Mailman the 2nd
Back: Gary Ayres, Jack Regan, John Nicholls
H-Back: John Rantall, Paul Roos, Brendon Goddard ,
Centre: Michael Aish, Gary Ablett Jnr., Robert DiPierdomenico
H-Forward: Todd Viney, Ted Whitten Snr, Jack Mueller
Forward: Malcom Blight, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
Followers: Jack Dyer, Garry McIntosh, Barry Cable
Team: 13Brummy
Fwd: Norm Smith Gary Ablett Snr Matthew Pavlich
H fwd: Darrel Baldock Dermott Brereton Lance Franklin
Mid: Ben Cousins Russell Ebert Shane Crawford
H back: Nathan Buckley Chris Grant Bruce Doull
Back: Syd Coventry Steven Silvagni Ivor Warne-Smith
Foll: Jim Stynes Chris Judd Bill Hutchison
Team: tbagrocks
Gavin Wanganeen - Vic Thorp - Glenn Archer
Andrew McLeod - Graham Cornes - Walter Scott
Peter Carey - Fos Williams - Ron Barassi
Michael Tuck - Paul Kelly - Gary Hocking
Jason Akermanis - Barrie Robran - Kevin Bartlett
Darren Jarman - John Coleman - Rick Davies
Team: Kellogscrunchynut
B: Bernie Smith Matthew Scarlett Harold Rumney
HB: Reg Hickey Albert Collier Kevin Murray
C: Francis Bourke - Lindsey Head - Craig Bradley
HF: Matthew Richardson - Royce Hart - Albert Thurgood
FF: Bob Pratt - Ken Farmer Peter Hudson
Foll: Roy Wright - Ian Stewart - Dick Reynolds.
Team: quinny88
B: Dustin Fletcher Geoff Southby Kevin Sheedy
HB: Guy McKenna Glen Jakovich Trevor Barker
C: Peter Matera Greg Williams Doug Hawkins
HF: Alex Jesaulenko Steven Kernahan Michael Voss
FF: Leigh Matthews Jason Dunstall Steven Milne
Foll: Simon Madden Bob Skilton Haydn Bunton Snr
Team: monstrum
FB: D.Dench D.Glass C.Enright
HB: L.Hodge P.Knights J.Bartel
C: S.Black A.Goodes K.Grieg
HF: M.Ricciuto W.Carey J.Hird
FF: J.Brown T.Lockett P.Daicos
FOL: G.Farmer R.Harvey J.Platten
Soo.. do we have a winner?
I always assumed I won from the start ;)
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 03:25:04 PM
I always assumed I won from the start ;)
Love your modesty Mailman :P
I need all of you to vote your 3-2-1 via pm to keep it non bias (not your own team), also I need Sid's votes
Who hasnt voted yet tbag?
Actually now just waiting on Sid. I better send a Pm
Actually sorry guys, Sid's are in and I thought I had them all but I need one more, will pm them now!
Ok all votes are in and here they are so there's no chance of me cheating ;D
tbags votes
3 - Quinny
2 - Kellogskrunchynut
1- Mailman
Quote from: monstrum on December 10, 2012, 07:24:42 AM
Quote from: tbagrocks on December 10, 2012, 01:22:53 AM
Monsa I need your footy draft votes, 3-2-1, asap ;D
3 Quinny
2 Brummy
1 Mailman
Quote from: 13Brummy on December 09, 2012, 10:10:23 PM
3 - Monstrum
2 - Quinny88
1 - Tbagrocks
Sorry for taking so long mate
Quote from: Mailman the 2nd on December 05, 2012, 07:13:40 PM
3. Kellogs
2. Quinny
1. tbags ;)
Quote from: quinny88 on December 03, 2012, 03:06:31 AM
My all time draft votes go to..
3 votes: Kellogscrunchynut
2 votes: tbagrocks
1 votes: Mailman the 2nd
Quote from: Kellogscrunchynut on December 02, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
Voting:
3. Tbag
2. Quinny
1. Mailman
You and Quinny's teams are probably a cut above the other ones, and I'd like to think that mine is similar in quality to both of yours. Put some SANFL players in, and I rate Craig Bradley highly due to his All-Australian selection whilst playing in the SANFL.
And here are the judges votes
Quote from: JBs-Hawks on December 03, 2012, 07:35:27 PM
Mailman and Tbag : 9
Monstrum and quiny 8.5
Other two 7.5
Quote from: Sid on December 10, 2012, 12:28:33 AM
Mailman the 2nd: 8/10
13Brummy: 4/10
tbagrocks: 8/10
Kellogscrunchynut: 9/10
Quinny88: 7/10
monstrum: 3/10
Congratulations
Quinny
Quinny - 27.5
Kellogskrunchynut - 24.5
tbagrocks - 24
Mailman the - 2nd 21
monstrum - 14.5
13Brummy - 13.5
Pfft 3/10 lol what a joke
Woohoo! where do I collect my cheque? :P
Thanks for the votes guys and thanks for organising the draft Tbag. Was good fun!
Nice work quinny ;D
I wanted to do this earlier my team has..
33 premierships (5 premiership captain)
12 brownlows, 3 sandovers
70 All Australians
8 AA Captains
4 Norm Smith
5 Coleman Medals
9 Hall of Famers
3 Team of Century (probly at least 2 more if it was revised now)
I dont know how someone could honestly rate a team with that sort of record a 3/10
Yeah a little strange Mosny and I was close to putting your team in the votes, I think it came down to structure and where players played their footy
Not doubting your team would kick ass just say'n some teams had very good structure
Thanks for organising tbag, thanks for playing everyone, i had fun.
I get what ur saying tbag but the game was best 18 not best structure :P
Pretty hard to put a good structure together without a bench anyway.