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Title: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Cicjose on September 10, 2012, 05:50:05 PM
2011 average: 66
2012 average: 81

(http://www.statzone.com.au/images/afl/players/clinton-young.jpg)

coming off his best season since the 2008 premiership year, Clinton is an integral part of Hawthorn's uncontested marking style of play.

He was ranked in the top 10 for uncontested possessions, kicks, frees for, tackles, rebounding and running bounces despite missing 4 games through injury

his biggest issue to date is his durability having never played a full season, if Hawthorn can keep him on the park and he plays every game expect him to improve on his seemingly modest Dream Team output.

IMO still the best kick in the competition, his greatest hurdle in producing better numbers in DT is getting over his injury concerns

my expected average = 90
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Adamant on September 10, 2012, 06:15:07 PM
Good write-up. He's had a very consistent year...but cant have a guy averaging 80-90 in the mids....unless they are seriously underpriced (Embley, Ball, etc)
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Cicjose on September 10, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
i think he can get 100's but he would have to turn into a half back flanker or get some more contested footy for that to happen
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Scrads on September 10, 2012, 06:36:31 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on September 10, 2012, 06:32:20 PM
i think he can get 100's but he would have to turn into a half back flanker or get some more contested footy for that to happen

The contested side to his games has really improved during 2011 and 2012.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Windigo on September 10, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Not completely out of dt considerations...
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Hagebear on September 10, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: Windigo on September 10, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Not completely out of dt considerations...

Completely out of mine! Lol
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Ricochet on September 10, 2012, 09:14:50 PM
yeh at 27 next year cant see too much improvement in him... its a no for me
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Adamant on September 13, 2012, 01:59:00 AM
Quote from: Hagebear on September 10, 2012, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: Windigo on September 10, 2012, 06:53:13 PM
Not completely out of dt considerations...

Completely out of mine! Lol
+1 haha
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Torpedo10 on September 13, 2012, 06:41:47 PM
Out of mine for sure!
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: henry on September 13, 2012, 07:35:05 PM
He no longer really rebounds off a half back flank and instead plays pretty permanently on a wing, so no chance of getting dpp. As a hawks fan I love him as a player, will not feature in my team though.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: elephants on September 17, 2012, 12:38:30 AM
Could be interesting as a backmen but no thanks as a midfielder...
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Shihan7 on September 17, 2012, 09:39:26 PM
Quote from: elephants on September 17, 2012, 12:38:30 AM
Could be interesting as a backmen but no thanks as a midfielder...
+1
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Heppell21 on September 17, 2012, 11:46:07 PM
On the radar
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Capper on October 17, 2012, 06:00:25 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on September 10, 2012, 05:50:05 PM
2011 average: 66
2012 average: 81

(http://www.statzone.com.au/images/afl/players/clinton-young.jpg)

coming off his best season since the 2008 premiership year, Clinton is an integral part of Hawthorn's uncontested marking style of play.

He was ranked in the top 10 for uncontested possessions, kicks, frees for, tackles, rebounding and running bounces despite missing 4 games through injury

his biggest issue to date is his durability having never played a full season, if Hawthorn can keep him on the park and he plays every game expect him to improve on his seemingly modest Dream Team output.

IMO still the best kick in the competition, his greatest hurdle in producing better numbers in DT is getting over his injury concerns

my expected average = 90
Hawks currently locked in a battle with the Pies, Port, Lions and Bombers to keep him on their list. I dont think he is DT relavent though
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Shihan7 on October 17, 2012, 09:32:32 PM
Good player, but not DT relevant.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Jalapeno on February 13, 2013, 11:55:14 PM
Hi guys.... was going to start a thread about this guy but then i found this :)

Is he a worth a look now he is at the pies? Could he improve to a 100 average??
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: elephants on February 14, 2013, 12:22:13 AM
Mmmm, I don't think so. Reckon there are better midfield midpricers with the potential to score more and/or make more money than Young.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Jalapeno on February 14, 2013, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 14, 2013, 12:22:13 AM
Mmmm, I don't think so. Reckon there are better midfield midpricers with the potential to score more and/or make more money than Young.

Sorry to bug ya LE... What role do you think he will play at the pies? Given they are not going to hug the boundries this season and have said they are going to use "bullet like" passing through the middle do you not think this would mean young is there goto man? Best kick in the comp or close to it in my opinion
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Mr.Craig on February 14, 2013, 12:28:29 AM
Averaged 18 disposals per game last year. He'd need to push that to 23-25 to be worthwhile.

Can't see it happening.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Scrads on February 14, 2013, 03:16:42 AM
For starters, saying Young is the best kick in the comp is a horrific overstatement. He actually quite often struggles hitting targets at a distance of less than 35m.

What Young DOES have is a LONG kick (I am talking 60m) and also the ability to run, making him a player who can run 15m, bang the ball long and there you go the ball has changed ends of the ground. These kicks rarely require pinpoint accuracy as the objective of them is to get the ball as far forward as possible, it will rarely be for a player on the lead. He is an elite player in terms of metres gained but in short pass efficiency, Young is way off the pace.

The thing about his DT prospects IMO is IF he manages to get scores which are worthy of a midfield spot in DT, it means he will be playing super and will be very effective in terms of metres gained for Collingwood and should really be playing so well that he will begin to be cracked down on by other teams for being so dangerous and they will start using taggers on him a lot and subsequently, his scores will plummet IMO.
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: elephants on February 16, 2013, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Jalapeno on February 14, 2013, 12:26:47 AM
Quote from: elephants on February 14, 2013, 12:22:13 AM
Mmmm, I don't think so. Reckon there are better midfield midpricers with the potential to score more and/or make more money than Young.

Sorry to bug ya LE... What role do you think he will play at the pies? Given they are not going to hug the boundries this season and have said they are going to use "bullet like" passing through the middle do you not think this would mean young is there goto man? Best kick in the comp or close to it in my opinion

No worries man, I reckon he has a wing locked down at the Pies and he showed last night he can be pretty productive out there.
I'm not sure they would actively seek him out. Swan, Pendles, Beams, Sidey, Ball are all pretty good kicks so I dont thin they would need to go-to Clinton excessively.
Repeating what Scrads said, I wouldn't class him as one of the best kicks in the AFL. Hurn and Suckers are in a class of their own (yes, there are others with lethal boots too but they are the first that come to mind). He's a ling kick which could be good to break the lines but the Pies mids are all solid themselves I reckon.

Overall, I wouldn't pick him in DT. He is priced at an average of 81 which I feel is about right. Chances are he may lift his average to say 90-95 but even then I doubt he's worth a shot in your mids over Ball/Embers/Riska/Moloney/rookies... If Clint smashes some massive scores he can easily be shut down due to his lack of an inside game. I still feel like there are better options :)
Title: Re: 2013 Player Profiles: Clinton Young
Post by: Mr.Craig on February 16, 2013, 07:10:17 PM
It should also be pointed out that he's never played a full season.