The All Time Draft: Clubs is an all time draft created by Boomz and myself. The draft will use the Eras (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44558.0.html) shell and will commence at the completion of the 2012 AFL Finals Series.
The Rules
Subject to change.
Section 1
Eligibility
1.1
• Each player selected must have played a minimum of 1 senior game in a major australian rules competition. The competitions considered to be major are:
- VFL (1896-1990)
- AFL (1990-2012)
*see 2.2
1.2
• If a player played a senior game for 2 or more clubs he is only eligible for the club where he played the most games. If he has played the same amount of games for 2 or more clubs, he will be eligible for the club where made his senior debut.
1.3
• To ensure that getting the first picks with certain teams will not hand coaches are disadvantaged, University, Adelaide, Port Adelaide, We
st Coast, Fremantle, Gold Coast and Greater Western Sydney will be excluded from the competition.
The remaining teams are Brisbane/Fitzroy, Carlton, Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong, Hawthorn, Melbourne, North Melbourne, Richmond, St Kilda, Sydney/South Melbourne & Footscray.
*see 2.2
Section 2
Selection Process
2.1
• Each coach will select 2 players from each club. After this each team will have the opportunity to select 4 players from the final pool (see 2.2) giving them a total of 28 players - a best 22, 3 emergencies and 3 reserves.
2.2
• At the conclusion of the club drafting, all the remaining players will be placed in a 'final pool' and will be available to be drafted. Additionally, players from the excluded teams as well as players from the VFA, SANFL, WAFL and TFL (prior to 1990). Eligibility rules from the club draft will still apply.
2.3
• Each coach will be given 24 hours to make each selection. Your clock starts as soon as the pick immediately prior to yours is taken. Once your 24 hours have passed you will be skipped and the coach with the pick immediately after yours will be able to take their pick. You can then take your pick when you are next online. If you are spotted online while it is your pick, but fail to make your selection, the time you have remaining will be halved. Once you have had two selections skipped in a row you will be automatically skipped until you make your skipped selection. Players with back to back picks will be allocated 48 hours, and if they fail to take either of their picks regular rules will apply.
2.4
• Each club draft will use the following pick pattern (letters represent coaches):
A, B, C, D, E, F, F, E, D, C, B, A
2.5
• At the beginning of each new club draft the selection order will change, the person who received the first selection for the previous club will then receive the last, and each other manager will receive a selection which is one place higher than what they'd previously received.
Section 3
Misc.
3.1
• The draft will begin on the 30th of September.
3.2
• The draft will be completed by 6 coaches. Each coach will be invited to compete in the competition.
*Note that the number of coaches involved in the competition is currently being reviewed.
3.3
• To choose the draft order, each coach will be assigned a number which will then be plugged into a randomizer (http://www.random.org/). The club draft and the final pool will use separate draft orders.
3.4
• The winner of the draft will be decided by 2 separate polls. 1 which will be public and one which will be private (only the coaches involved in the draft will vote).
3.5
• Please, if you know that you will be away for a prolonged period of time - Leave some picks with another FF member! This will help to keep the draft moving and will ensure you will not be put at a disadvantage by being skipped :)
The coaches:
Sid
Boomz
DazBurg
BratPack
Ringo
Draft Order
Brisbane: Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack
Carlton: Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg]
Collingwood: Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid, Boomz
Essendon: Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid
Geelong: Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo
Hawthorn: Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack
Melbourne: Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg
North Melbourne: Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid, Boomz
Richmond: Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid
St Kilda: Ringo, Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack, Ringo
Sydney: Bratpack, Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg, Bratpack
Footscray: Dazburg, Boomz, Sid, Ringo, Bratpack, Bratpack, Ringo, Sid, Boomz, Dazburg
Final Pool: Ringo, Boomz, Sid, Bratpack, Dazburg, Dazburg, Bratpack, Sid, Boomz, Ringo, Ringo, Boomz, Sid, Bratpack, Dazburg, Dazburg, Bratpack, Sid, Boomz, Ringo
Draft
Brisbane
1. Haydn Bunton Snr. (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg899905.html#msg899905) (Bratpack)
2. Kevin Murray (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900127.html#msg900127) (DazBurg)
3. Paul Roos (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900142.html#msg900142) (Boomz)
4. Bernie Quinlan (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900143.html#msg900143) (Sid)
5. Allan Ruthven (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900263.html#msg900263) (Ringo)
6. Michael Voss (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900263.html#msg900263) (Ringo)
7. Jack Moriarty (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900298.html#msg900298) (Sid)
8. Garry Wilson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900468.html#msg900468) (Boomz)
9. Wilfred Smallhorn (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900476.html#msg900476) (DazBurg)
10. Simon Black (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900577.html#msg900577) (BratPack)
Carlton
1. John Nicholls (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900671.html#msg900671) (DazBurg)
2. Greg Williams (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900685.html#msg900685) (Boomz)
3. Bruce Doull (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900700.html#msg900700) (Sid)
4. Alex Jesaulenko (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg900707.html#msg900707) (Ringo)
5. Stephen Silvagni (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901420.html#msg901420) (BratPack)
6. Stephen Kernahan (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901420.html#msg901420) (Bratpack)
7. Robert Walls (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901720.html#msg901720) (Ringo)
8. Geoff Southby (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=67687.msg901747#msg901747) (Sid)
9. Craig Bradley (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901767.html#msg901767) (Boomz)
10. Harry Vallence (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901768.html#msg901768) (DazBurg)
Collingwood
1. Jack Regan (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901787.html#msg901787) (Boomz)
2. Gordon Coventry (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901794.html#msg901794) (Sid)
3. Peter Daicos (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg901891.html#msg901891) (Ringo)
4. Darren Millane (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg902210.html#msg902210) (BratPack)
5. Syd Coventry (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg902671.html#msg902671) (DazBurg)
6. Bob Rose (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg902671.html#msg902671) (DazBurg)
7. Len Thompson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg902986.html#msg902986) (BratPack)
8. Nathan Buckley (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903039.html#msg903039) (Ringo)
9. Albert Collier (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php?topic=67687.msg903275#msg903275) (Sid)
10. Dick Lee (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903468.html#msg903468) (Boomz)
Essendon
1. Dick Reynolds (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903475.html#msg903475) (Sid)
2. Simon Madden (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903492.html#msg903492) (Ringo)
3. John Coleman (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903789.html#msg903789) (BratPack)
4. Bill Hutchison (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg903932.html#msg903932) (DazBurg)
5. James Hird (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg904092.html#msg904092) (Boomz)
6. Albert Thurgood (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg904092.html#msg904092) (Boomz)
7. Paul Salmon (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg904220.html#msg904220) (DazBurg)
8. Terry Daniher (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg904888.html#msg904888) (BratPack)
9. Tim Watson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905050.html#msg905050) (Ringo)
10. Jack Clarke (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905458.html#msg905458) (Sid)
Geelong
1. Gary Ablett Senior (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905485.html#msg905485) (Ringo)
2. Graham Farmer (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905641.html#msg905641) (BratPack)
3. Bernie Smith (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905698.html#msg905698) (DazBurg)
4. Gary Ablett Junior (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg905956.html#msg905956) (Boomz)
5. Doug Wade (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906009.html#msg906009) (Sid)
6. Reginald Hickey (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906009.html#msg906009) (Sid)
7. George Moloney (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906345.html#msg906345) (Boomz)
8. Carji Greeves (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906477.html#msg906477) (DazBurrg)
9. George Todd (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906781.html#msg906781) (BratPack)
10. Dick Grigg (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906829.html#msg906829) (Ringo)
Hawthorn
1. Peter Hudson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906835.html#msg906835) (BratPack)
2. Leigh Matthews (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906841.html#msg906841) (DazBurg)
3. Jason Dunstall (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg906932.html#msg906932) (Boomz)
4. Michael Tuck (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg907448.html#msg907448) (Sid)
5. Gary Ayres (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg908102.html#msg908102) (Ringo)
6. Kelvin Moore (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg908102.html#msg908102) (Ringo)
7. Robert DiPierdomenico (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg908417.html#msg908417) (Sid)
8. John Platten (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg908749.html#msg908749) (Boomz)
9. Dermott Brereton (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg908878.html#msg908878) (DazBurg)
10. Gary Buckenara (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg909064.html#msg909064) (BratPack)
Melbourne
1. Ivor Warne Smith (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg909113.html#msg909113) (DazBurg)
2. Jim Stynes (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg909432.html#msg909432) (Boomz)
3. Ron Barassi (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg909938.html#msg909938) (Sid)
4. Norm Smith (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg910213.html#msg910213) (Ringo)
5. Robert Flower (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg910289.html#msg910289) (BratPack)
6. Garry Lyon (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg910289.html#msg910289) (BratPack)
7. Todd Viney (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg910932.html#msg910932) (Ringo)
8. Jack Mueller (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg911946.html#msg911946) (Sid)
9. Albert Chadwick (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg912519.html#msg912519) (Boomz)
10. Fred Fanning (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg912605.html#msg912605) (DazBurg)
North Melbourne
1. Wayne Carey (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg912665.html#msg912665) (Boomz)
2. Keith Greig (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg912721.html#msg912721) (Sid)
3. David Dench (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg912868.html#msg912868) (Ringo)
4. Ross Glendinning (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913220.html#msg913220) (BratPack)
5. Malcolm Blight (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913475.html#msg913475) (DazBurg)
6. Brent Harvey (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913475.html#msg913475) (DazBurg)
7. Barry Cable (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913750.html#msg913750) (BratPack)
8. Wayne Schimmelbusch (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913841.html#msg913841) (Ringo)
9. Glenn Archer (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg913932.html#msg913932) (Sid)
10. Les Foote (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg914706.html#msg914706) (Boomz)
Richmond
1. Jack Dyer (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg914700.html#msg914700) (Sid)
2. Kevin Bartlett (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg914958.html#msg914958) (Ringo)
3. Royce Hart (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915091.html#msg915091) (BratPack)
4. Francis Bourke (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915329.html#msg915329) (DazBurg)
5. Roy Wright (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915352.html#msg915352) (Boomz)
6. Vic Thorp (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915352.html#msg915352) (Boomz)
7. Jack Titus (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915434.html#msg915434) (DazBurg)
8. Matthew Richardson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915675.html#msg915675) (BratPack)
9. Kevin Sheedy (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg915816.html#msg915816) (Ringo)
10. Dale Weightman (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg916191.html#msg916191) (Sid)
St Kilda
1. Tony Lockett (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg916402.html#msg916402) (Ringo)
2. Robert Harvey (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg916684.html#msg916684) (BratPack)
3. Ian Stewart (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg917052.html#msg917052) (DazBurg)
4. Darrel Baldock (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg917566.html#msg917566) (Boomz)
5. Trevor Barker (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg918376.html#msg918376) (Sid)
6. Steven Milne (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg918376.html#msg918376) (Sid)
7. Verdun Howell (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg919724.html#msg919724) (Boomz)
8. Neil Roberts (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg920239.html#msg920239) (DazBurg)
9. Kevin Neale (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg920449.html#msg920449) (BratPack)
10. Ross Smith (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg920789.html#msg920789) (Ringo)
Sydney
1. Bob Skilton (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921022.html#msg921022) (BratPack)
2. Bob Pratt (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921183.html#msg921183) (DazBurg)
3. Adam Goodes (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921205.html#msg921205) (Boomz)
4. Paul Kelly (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921304.html#msg921304) (Sid)
5. Peter Bedford (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921355.html#msg921355) (Ringo)
6. Tony Morwood (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921355.html#msg921355) (Ringo)
7. Laurie Nash (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921376.html#msg921376) (Sid)
8. Ron Clegg (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921530.html#msg921530) (Boomz)
9. Herbert Matthews (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921585.html#msg921585) (DazBurg)
10. Dennis Carroll (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921639.html#msg921639) (BratPack)
Footscray
1. Ted Whitten (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg921756.html#msg921756) (DazBurg)
2. Gary Dempsey (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922121.html#msg922121) (Boomz)
3. Scott West (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922226.html#msg922226) (Sid)
4. Doug Hawkins (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922278.html#msg922278) (Ringo)
5. Charlie Sutton (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922800.html#msg922800) (BratPack)
6. Chris Grant (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922800.html#msg922800) (BratPack)
7. Wally Donald (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg922807.html#msg922807) (Ringo)
8. Brad Johnson (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg924221.html#msg924221) (Sid)
9. Tony Liberatore (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg924421.html#msg924421) (Boomz)
10. Allan Hopkins (http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,67687.msg925109.html#msg925109) (DazBurg)
Reserved.
Hmmm #1 in Brisbane, Hawthorn and Sydney...Not exactly the best teams to work with but they have some talent
Quote from: BratPack on September 27, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
Hmmm #1 in Brisbane, Hawthorn and Sydney...Not exactly the best teams to work with but they have some talent
#1 at hawks is very very good. The other 2 not soo much.
Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: BratPack on September 27, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
Hmmm #1 in Brisbane, Hawthorn and Sydney...Not exactly the best teams to work with but they have some talent
#1 at hawks is very very good. The other 2 not soo much.
Kevin Murray and Bob Skilton didn't go badly. :-X
Quote from: Sid on September 27, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: BratPack on September 27, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
Hmmm #1 in Brisbane, Hawthorn and Sydney...Not exactly the best teams to work with but they have some talent
#1 at hawks is very very good. The other 2 not soo much.
Kevin Murray and Bob Skilton didn't go badly. :-X
If sydney is south Melbourne too than its pretty good.
Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2012, 07:20:02 PM
Quote from: Sid on September 27, 2012, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on September 27, 2012, 06:58:18 PM
Quote from: BratPack on September 27, 2012, 03:01:19 PM
Hmmm #1 in Brisbane, Hawthorn and Sydney...Not exactly the best teams to work with but they have some talent
#1 at hawks is very very good. The other 2 not soo much.
Kevin Murray and Bob Skilton didn't go badly. :-X
If sydney is south Melbourne too than its pretty good.
Yep. Brisbane is Fitzroy as well. It's in the rules. :)
Draft is now open :) Not really a massive rush for the first pick though. BP up (Brisbane)
After dragging myself out of bed tired yet not hungover from a big night as DazBurg's, I'll save the write up for later but I take Haydn Bunton Sr.
ill take Kevin Murray
Kevin 'Bulldog' Murray (born 18 June 1938) was a champion Australian rules footballer who played for the Fitzroy Football Club in the Victorian Football League in 333 games over 18 seasons. Murray played for Fitzroy from 1955 to 1964, and from 1967 to 1974, winning nine best-and-fairest awards for the club. He was playing coach of Fitzroy in 1963, a job he also filled in 1964, along with representing and captaining his home state of Victoria. Although only 5'10" (178 cm) tall, he had a very long reach: his arm span was somewhere near 6'6" (198 cm). In 1965 and 1966 he moved to Western Australia to play for and captain/coach East Perth Football Club. During that time he played 44 West Australian National Football League (WANFL) games and captained WA at the 1966 Hobart Carnival during which is he was awarded a Simpson Medal for his match against VFA. He also won East Perth's best-and-fairest award in 1965. In 1966 he led East Perth to the WANFL Grand Final but they lost to Perth, which was captain/coached by former East Perth player Mal Atwell. Atwell had left the Royals to Perth because he didn't agree with Murray's methods. His return to Fitzroy was triumphant. He won the club's best-and-fairest award in his first two years back, and in 1969 he was awarded the Brownlow Medal. Amongst Murray's other honours, he was named an All-Australian player in 1958 and 1966. His 333 games for Fitzroy was a then VFL record, but 208 of these games resulted in losses, the most ever suffered by a single player in the VFL/AFL. He also played 44 games for East Perth, 24 for Victoria and six for WA. At the end of the 1996 season, Fitzroy merged with the Brisbane Bears to form the Brisbane Lions. Murray was a great supporter of the new entity, and the Lions' club championship award, the Merrett-Murray Medal, is part-named in Murray's honour. Murray has been inducted into the Australian Football Hall of Fame, and was elevated to legend status in 2010.
333 VFL games
44 WANFL games
Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee
Brownlow Medal 1969
Represented Victoria 24 times
Represented Western Australia 6 times
All-Australian side 1958, 1966
Fitzroy best-and-fairest 1956, 1958, 1960â€"64, 1968â€"69
East Perth best-and-fairest 1965
AFL Team of the Century
I'll take Paul Roos. Toss up between 3 players but eventually decided on him.
I'll take Bernie Quinlan. Write up will come later. :)
Allan Ruthven - 5 times Club Champion, Team Captain 1948, and 1950 - 1955, Leading Gola kicker 4 times
Michael Voss - Great Player - Lousy Coach - Captained the Brisbane side in their 3 premiership years - 10 years as Captain/co captain of the club and 3 times best and fairest.
Jack Moriarty. I promise I'll do write-ups when the chat empties out later :P
Nice pick Sid. Tossed a coin between him and Ruthven
Will pick soon. Thinking.
Garry Wilson
Despite being thought too frail for league football by some people, Fitzroy's Garry 'Flea' Wilson proved himself one of the most brilliant rovers of his era. Between 1971 and 1984 he played a total of 271 VFL games, frequently displaying courage and persistence above and beyond the call of duty. In 1977, for example, he sustained a badly fractured jaw, and doctors wrote him off for the season, but within weeks he was back playing as though nothing had happened.
His importance to Fitzroy was amply illustrated by his feat in winning no fewer than five club best and fairest awards. He also topped the club's goal kicking list on two occasions. From 1982-84 he fulfilled a long term ambition by emulating his hero, Kevin Murray, with whom he had played at the outset of his career, and captaining the Lions:
Have other rovers in mind so he'll slot in on the HFF for me.
2nd Brownlow Medal 1979, 3rd Brownlow Medal 1978.
Fitzroy Best & Fairest 1972, 1976, 1978, 1979, 1980.
Fitzroy leading goalkicker 1972, 1973.
Fitzroy captain 1981 to 1984.
All-Australian Team 1979, 1980
Fitzroy Team of the Century.
Victorian representative (12 games, 22 goals)
FB: ___ ___ ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: ___ ___ ___
HF: Garry Wilson ___ ___
FF: ___ ___ ___
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: ___ ___ ___
i'll take Wilfred "Chicken" Smallhorn
Recruited from Collingwood Technical School, Smallhorn made his VFL debut with Fitzroy in 1930. Built like a stick man in a Lowry painting, he had a long, loping stride which carried him over the ground at a deceptively expeditious pace. He was also adept at extracting the ball from the tightest of packs and making use of it intelligently. Moreover, the nickname 'Chicken' assuredly had nothing to do with his disposition or demeanour.
Despite the fact that he played in losing sides for most of his eleven season, 150 game VFL career, Smallhorn regularly caught the eyes of the umpires when Brownlow votes were apportioned. Winner of the award - the real one, that is - in 1933, he finished among the top ten vote getters on another four occasions. When you consider that one of his team mates for much of his career was arguably the greatest vote magnet in the history of the game, Haydn Bunton senior, the accomplishment becomes even more impressive.
Smallhorn played for most of his career as a wingman, in which position he also represented the VFL. His failure to win a Fitzroy best and fairest award might seem baffling until you realise that the club only made such an award on two occasions during the 1930s.
Options abound....but I'll take Simon Black
Daz up again for Carlton
ok my next pick
John Nicholls
John Nicholls was one of if not the greatest ruckmen of all time simply because he knew how to use his abilities and physique - which in and of themselves were far from extraordinary - to the best possible effect. Not blessed with the supreme all round skills of a Graham Farmer, or the mountainous height of a Len Thompson, nor yet the fearsome aggressiveness of a Jack Dyer, Nicholls was nevertheless consistently able to outmanoeuvre opposing ruckmen of all physical types and attributes. Moreover, he had an uncanny and arguably unequalled knack of extracting the maximum advantage from almost any on field situation, no matter how ostensibly inimical.
None of the above should be taken as implying that John Nicholls was a player devoid of skill, however. Without wishing to become embroiled in a philosophical consideration of the nature of skill it is nevertheless worth pointing out for example that, unlike Farmer, say, Nicholls was very much a two-sided player. Furthermore, his kicking was accurate and penetrative, and he handled the ball cleanly. Whilst not possessed of blinding pace his astute judgement repeatedly enabled him to make position ahead of speedier opponents. And while not given to indiscriminate violence his "piercing blue eyes gave the most frightening stare in football".
Carlton premiership captain 1968, 1970
Carlton premiership captain-coach 1972
Australian Football Hall of Fame, inaugural legend 1996
AFL Team of the Century
Carlton Team of the Century, ruck
Carlton Best First Year Player, 1957
Robert Reynolds Trophy 1959, 1963, 1965â€"1967
Renamed "John Nicholls Medal" in 2004
Carlton captain 1963, 1968â€"1974
Victorian representative 31 times
I'll take Greg Williams. Dual Brownlow medallist and one of the best mids of all time.
Difficult choice between 3 different blokes. I'll take Bruce Doull and hope 1 of the other 2 fall to my next pick.
Alex Jesaulenko
Playing Career: 1967 - 1979; Games: 256; Goals: 424; Premiership Player: 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979; Leading Goalkicker : 1969, 1970, 1971; Captain: 1975, 1976; Captain-Coach: 1978, 1979; Best and Fairest: 1975; Carlton Hall of Fame; Carlton Team of the Century; AFL Team of the Century; Carlton and AFL Legend
This is a fantastic thread guys.......am watching with interest
Stephen Silvagni and Stephen Kernahan
Robert Walls
Playing career: 1967 â€" 1978: Games: 218; Goals: 367, Premiership Player: 1968, 1970, 1972; Captain: 1977 & 1978; Carlton Coach: 1986 â€" 1989: Games: 84; Premiership Coach 1987; Carlton Hall of Fame: 1990; Carlton Team of the Century; AFL Hall of Fame 2006
Going to lock down my FB and pick up Geoff Southby.
Current Team
B: _______, Geoff Southby, _______
HB: _______, _______, Bruce Doull
C: _______, _______, _______
HF: _______, Bernie Quinlan, _______
F: _______, Jack Moriarty, _______
FB: ___ ___ ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: ___ Greg Williams ___
HF: Garry Wilson ___ Craig Bradley
FF: ___ ___ ___
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: ___ ___ ___
I'll take Craig Bradley.
In a senior career spanning 22 seasons, Bradley was renowned as one of the games tireless champions, and in particular his amazing fitness that meant he could play the physically demanding game of Australian rules football until the age of 38. For much of his career, Bradley played in the midfield, rotating into the forward line during games, where his nous allowed him both to score and assist many goals through his career. In his final few seasons, Bradley spent more time acting as a loose, sweeping half-back flanker, and much of Carlton's drive forward came from his play through the wings.
Port Adelaide Premiership Player 1981
Port Adelaide Best & Fairest 1982, 1984, 1985
All-Australian 1983, 1985â€"86, 1993â€"95, 1997
Fos Williams Medalist 1985, 1986, 1991, 1993
VFL debut with Carlton on 31 March 1986 v Hawthorn at Waverley Park
Carlton Best & Fairest 1986, 1988, 1993
Carlton Premiership Player 1987, 1995
Carlton Vice-Captain 1990â€"97
Michael Tuck Medalist (AFL night series/pre season) 1997
Carlton Captain 1998â€"2001
19 State games for South Australia 1983-99 (Captain 1997, 1999)
9 International rules football games for Australia 1984-2002
Australian football Senior Games Record Holder (501)
Carlton Games Record Holder (375 - 1986-2002)
Australian Football Hall of Fame Inductee 2006
South Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2006
Official Legend of the Carlton Football Club
Port Adelaide Team of the Century - Wing
Carlton Team of the Century - Wing
well for my last pick
Harry Soapy Vallence
After a stuttering start to his league career with Carlton Harry 'Soapy' Vallence developed into arguably the greatest full forward in the club's history. Deceptively awkward looking, he was actually very agile when the ball hit the deck, while his overhead marking ability was second to none. Early in his career, however, the Carlton brains trust found it hard to decide where best to place him, and it was only when he was shifted to the goalfront in 1929, his fourth league season, that he began to blossom. Vallence, who used the punt kick almost exclusively when kicking for goal, registered 64 goals that year to finish second on the VFL list to Collingwood's Gordon Coventry; it was also the first of eight occasions on which he would win Carlton's top goalkicker award.
The presence in the league of numerous other full forwards of the highest quality meant that Vallence's interstate opportunities were somewhat limited; nevertheless, he represented the Big V on five occasions, booting eight goals against South Australia in 1931, the same year that saw him top the VFL's goalkicking table for the first and only time.
'Soapy' Vallence's greatness was not merely a matter of statistics, however. Perhaps more than any other full forward of his time, he habitually reserved his best displays for important occasions, such as the 1st semi final of 1931, and the following season's preliminary final, in both of which he booted 11 goals.
Vallence's last game in a Carlton jumper was almost certainly the most rewarding. In 1938, after more than a decade of almost perennial, but fruitless, finals participation, the Blues finally broke through for a flag, beating arch rivals Collingwood in a tensely fought grand final by 15 points. Lining up on a half forward flank, Harry Vallence had a quiet game, but he had consistently proved over the course of the whole season that he still had plenty to offer. It would not be the Blues though who would benefit.
In 1939, Vallence became one of the first big name VFL stars in many years to transfer to the VFA when he signed for Williamstown. In his debut season with the Seagulls he kicked 133, and the following season he embarked on a prolific, though brief, partnership with former Collingwood sharpshooter Ron Todd, who had followed Vallence to the Association. In one match against Sandringham in 1941, Vallence booted 20 goals, to add to bags of 18 and 15 kicked against Oakleigh and Yarraville in 1939 and 1940 respectively. With such firepower in its armoury, the only surprise was that Williamstown was unable to procure a premiership before the VFA ceased operations, owing to the war, in 1942.
When the VFA competition resumed in 1945, Harry Vallence joined Brighton as captaincoach, where he continued to display great skill, intelligence and goalkicking prowess for the remaining two seasons of his senior career. This was particularly the case in 1946, his last year, when his tally of 77 goals was good enough to top the club's list, and was fourth highest in the VFA. In his final senior match, aged forty-one, Vallence booted 11 goals. Vallence's importance in the history of the Carlton Football Club was endorsed with his selection in the club's official 'Team of the Century' - the only pre-World War Two player to be so honoured.
Carlton premiership player (1938)
VFL leading goalkicker 1931
Carlton leading goalkicker 1929, 1931â€"1933, 1935â€"1938
Carlton Hall of Fame (1987)
Carlton Team of the 20th Century
Good pick. Was tossing up between him & Bradley.
This was a really hard choice but I'll take the prince of full backs Jack Regan.
FB: ___ Jack Regan ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: ___ Greg Williams ___
HF: Garry Wilson ___ Craig Bradley
FF: ___ ___ ___
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: ___ ___ ___
There are so many....Gordon Coventry.
Quote from: Boomz on October 02, 2012, 10:11:08 PM
Quote from: Ringo on October 02, 2012, 10:06:23 PM
So many to pick from as you say but I will go for a player that played 320 games for the Dons and Captain Coached 4 premierships.
Dick Reynolds
Essendon premiership captain-coach 1942, 1946 ,1949, 1950
Brownlow Medal 1934, 1937, 1938
W. S. Crichton Medal 1934, 1936â€"1939, 1942, 1943
Essendon captain 1939â€"1950
Essendon leading goalkicker 1943
Australian Football Hall of Fame legend 1996
AFL Team of the Century (half forward flank)
Essendon Team of the Century (rover)
Only up to Collingwood :P
LOL
(insert facepalm ringo)
Sorry went crosseyed in my old age so try this one PETER DAICOS
Did not even twig that Coventry played for pies when looking at previous post I have deleted my original post so if you guys want to delete post you may or you can leave to show my ineptitude
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: ___ ______ ___
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven ___ Alex Jesaulenko
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls ___ ___
Going to throw up a little bit of a smokey here. I'll pick Darren Millane
Quote from: BratPack on October 03, 2012, 11:52:00 AM
Going to throw up a little bit of a smokey here. I'll pick Darren Millane
Interesting pick! Weren't confident he'd make it to your second pick?
ok for my double pick
Syd Coventry
Originally from Diamond Creek, Syd Coventry journeyed across the Bass Strait after the first world war to work in the mines at Queenstown, taking with him a reputation as a fine footballer. While still in Queenstown he was approached by St Kilda who wanted him to play for them in 1921. Syd duly agreed, but when he returned to Melbourne he was persuaded by his younger brother Gordon, who had just finished his first season with Collingwood, to reconsider. Apart from the issue of family loyalty, there was the small matter of the excessive distance between Diamond Creek and St Kilda to think of.
The upshot of it all was that Syd Coventry elected to throw in his lot with Collingwood, whereupon St Kilda, not surprisingly, screamed "foul!" The VFL Permits Committee was called in to adjudicate, and Coventry was faced with the choice of playing with St Kilda, or sitting out of football for twelve months so that he could join the Woods. He opted for the latter course of action, and in 1922 he started out on an illustrious thirteen season, 227 game league career with Collingwood.
Despite standing only 180cm in height, Syd Coventry played mainly as a ruckman, where his aggression, vigour and dynamism more than compensated for any deficiency in stature. A born leader, he captained the Magpies from 1927 until he moved to Footscray as coach at the end of the 1934 season. He thus enjoyed the unique privilege of captaining four successive VFL premiership teams.
Often at his best when the going was rough, one of Syd Coventry's finest performances came on a waterlogged MCG in the 1927 grand final, when Collingwood and Richmond between them could manage only three goals for the match. The 1927 season also saw him win both the Brownlow Medal and Collingwood's best and fairest award. He repeated the second achievement five years later.
A virtual ever-present in VFL representative teams for most of his career, Coventry made a total of 27 interstate appearances. His eventual departure from Victoria Park to coach Footscray came with the blessing of the Collingwood committee, but only on the proviso that he did not continue as a player.
After two unsuccessful and unhappy years with Footscray, Syd Coventry returned to Collingwood in an administrative capacity. He served as club vice-president from 1939 to 1949, and as president between 1950 and 1962. From 1963 until 1976 he was Collingwood's patron, rounding off more than fifty years of involvement with the club.
Collingwood premiership captain 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930
Collingwood Team of the Century, captain
Brownlow Medal 1927
Collingwood captain 1927â€"1934
Copeland Trophy 1927, 1932
and
Bob rose
Bob Rose made a sterling contribution to the Collingwood Football Club for much of his adult life. As a player he was tough, powerful, quick, well balanced and highly skilled. He won a then unprecedented four Copeland trophies for the club's best and fairest player in 1949 and from 1951-3, played 15 consecutive interstate matches for the VFL, was chosen in the inaugural All Australian team in 1953, and was a member that same year of the Magpies' winning grand final team against Geelong.
His extraordinary toughness was a legacy of his notorious side-line as a prize fighter, in which he enjoyed a fair amount of success. A superb drop kick, he was said to rove "like a ruckman" (see footnote 1), and often sustained needless injuries by preferring to crash through packs rather than dodge his way out of trouble.
After leaving Collingwood, Bob Rose enjoyed an auspicious seven season career as captaincoach of Ovens and Murray League side Wangaratta Rovers, winning two Morris Medals for the best and fairest player in the competition, as well as four club champion awards. He also steered the team to four grand finals for two wins.
Rose returned to coach Collingwood for eight years from 1964 but, despite having many fine players available to him, had to endure the heartache of three losing grand finals. Between 1972 and 1975 he was coach of Footscray, and in 1974 steered the Bulldogs into their first finals series in twelve years.
With Collingwood in dire trouble financially he returned briefly as coach in 1985 in a bid to 'steady the ship'. After a horror start to the 1986 season, however, he handed over the reins to his acolyte, Leigh Matthews, who would go on to mastermind the club's first flag for three decades.
Bob Rose continued to have an impact on the club behind the scenes, and his importance to Collingwood goes well beyond the overt achievements listed here.
Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee, 1996
All-Australian 1953
Sports Life Team Of The Year 1951-52-53-54
Runner-up Brownlow Medal 1953
Collingwood best and fairest 1949, 1951-52-53
Collingwood leading goalkicker 1953
Collingwood Team of the Century (centre)
AFLPA Award for Most Courageous Player named in his honour
Edit: Syd may have plyed alot in ruck but putting him in back pocket just like his name din collingwood team of century
Len Thompson
Need to start getting some backs so will choose Nathan Buckley on the half back line.
One of the all-time greats of the game and arguably the best ever to pull on the black and white stripes, Buckley’s record speaks for itself. Six Copeland Trophies (1994, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2003), a Brownlow Medal (2003), Norm Smith Medal (2003) and seven-time All-Australian (1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003). Became the club's most capped skipper when he led the Magpies for the 154th time in the thrilling round 21 victory over Port in 2006. Came to the club in 1994 after one season with Brisbane and immediately stamped his brilliance on the club, tying with Gavin Brown for the first of his best-and-fairest awards, and setting the tone for a brilliant career with Collingwood after one season with Brisbane. Named at half back flank in Collingwoods Team of the Century
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: ___ ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven ___ Alex Jesaulenko
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls ___ ___
Surprised this bloke made it back to me. Albert Collier, one of the great centre half backs who played in one of (if not the) greatest teams of all time.
B: _______, Geoff Southby, _______
HB: _______, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: _______, _______, _______
HF: _______, Bernie Quinlan, _______
F: Jack Moriarty, Gordon Coventry, _______
Dick Lee
One of the first of the game's truly great full forwards, Walter 'Dick' Lee's VFL career spanned 230 games over 17 seasons and spawned 707 goals. The last of those 707 goals came with Lee's final kick in League football, in Collingwood's losing 1922 challenge final against Fitzroy. Small (175cm) and lightweight (70kg) by the standards of modern full forwards Lee was nevertheless a commanding figure on the ground, and "matched spectacular, high-flying aerobatics with superb ground-level skills and unerring accuracy in front of goal, whether by punt or place kick". Testimony to this accuracy is afforded by the tale that Lee was a frequent visitor to an amusement hall which had a game which required participants to kick at a target from various difficult angles; in the end, the proprietors allegedly had to bar Lee from participating owing to his near faultless proficiency.
Perhaps more than any other leading club, Collingwood has a tradition of producing full forwards of the highest quality - a tradition which originated almost a century ago with a lightweight place kicking genius whose exploits arguably did more than those of any one else to transform full forward into the glamorous, distinctive position it remains to this day.
FB: ___ ___ ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: ___ Greg Williams ___
HF: Garry Wilson ___ Craig Bradley
FF: Dick Lee ___ ___
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: ___ ___ ___
I'll take Dick Reynolds.
Will stitch up a Ruckmen with Simon Madden
One of the greatest ruckmen to play the game, he played in the last six games in 1974, slotting into the team as a forward pocket and relief ruckman and delighted fans with his big marking and goalkicking. He kicked 18 goals and won the best first year player award.
By the time he was twenty-two he was captain of Essendon, replacing Ken Fletcher. But a succession of injuries and illness sapped his strength and stamina in his first year as skipper and after a disappointing year in 1981 he was replaced as captain.
Madden holds the games record at Windy Hill 378 â€" and also holds the goals record of 575. He won Essendon's best and fairest award in 1977, 1979, 1983 and 1984 and finished third in the award in 1978. Only Dick Reynolds and Bill Hutchison have collected the best and fairest more times. He headed the Dons' goalkickers in 1980 with 45 goals and in 1982 with 49 goals. He was second top in 1977, 1979 and 1981 and third top in 1976 and 1978.
He finished third in the Medal in 1983 with 22 votes and was also the Dons' top vote scorer in 1977 with 24 votes and in 1984 with 14 votes. He was in the ruck in the 1984 and 1985 premiership teams and he won the Norm Smith Medal for being best on the ground in the 1985 flag.
He was also on the interchange bench and captain of the 1981 night premiership team and was in the ruck in the 1984 night premiership team. He has always had difficulty adjusting to night conditions because he wears contact lenses.
He was chosen in the interstate team in 1977, 1978, 1981, 1983, 1984, 1985 and 1987. This is the equal fourth most interstate years of any Essendon player. He played in nine interstate games. He was chosen in the All Australian team in 1983, 1984 and 1987.
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: ___ ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven ___ Alex Jesaulenko
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls ___ ___
Wow. I really wasn't expecting him to fall to me at #3. But I'll take John Coleman with many thanks
Quote from: BratPack on October 05, 2012, 11:54:33 AM
Wow. I really wasn't expecting him to fall to me at #3. But I'll take John Coleman with many thanks
Was a toss up between the 2 and already having one forward decided on a ruck at this stage.
ok for my pick
Bill Hutchison
Recruited by Essendon from local league side Essendon Stars, where he had played chiefly as a wingman, Bill Hutchison developed into one of the greatest rovers the game has seen. Initially though, the Dons used him as a half forward flanker, which was where he lined up for most of his debut season of 1942, including that year's winning grand final against Richmond. Hutchison had a quiet game that day, but next time he appeared in a grand final, in 1946, he put in the sort of tireless, elegant, pacy performance that was to become his trademark as the Dons crushed Melbourne by 63 points.
Hutchison won the first of seven Essendon best and fairest awards in 1946, by which time he was already a stalwart in VFL representative sides, for which he made a near record 30 appearances, earning All Australian selection in 1953 and 1956. Despite a propensity to 'backchat' to umpires, he almost invariably polled well in the Brownlow, finally breaking through for a win in 1953 after missing out only on countback the previous year. In 1989 the VFL retrospectively awarded him, as well as all other countback losers, a 1952 Medal also, but sadly Bill Hutchison had by this time passed away. His volubility notwithstanding, few players in history have so admirably and consistently conformed to both requirements for receiving Brownlow Medal votes, for Bill Hutchison was as impeccably fair as he was brilliant.
Always a dangerous player near goal, Hutchison averaged nearly two goals a game over the course of his sixteen season, 290 game VFL career, during which he took part in no fewer than nine grand finals for five flags. Despite his small stature, he managed to remain remarkably injury free, a tribute both to his speed of movement and adroitness of mind.
Perhaps the greatest disappointment of Hutchison's career was that, after he replaced Dick Reynolds as Essendon's captain in 1951 he was unable to emulate his predecessor by leading the club to a premiership. Nevertheless, few players, either at Essendon or elsewhere, have enjoyed such illustrious careers at football's highest level.
Essendon premiership side: 1942, 1946, 1949â€"1950
Essendon captain: 1951â€"1957
Brownlow Medal winner: 1952 and 1953
Essendon best and fairest: 1946, 1948, 1950, 1952, 1955â€"1956
Essendon Team of the century
Australian Football Hall of Fame member (legend status)
All-Australian Team: 1953 and 1956
James Hird
Despite being arguably the greatest Canberra born footballer in the history of the game, one shudders to imagine just how noteworthy James Hird's achievements might have been were it not for his frequent misfortune with injury. After joining Essendon from Ainslie in 1992 he made a comparatively slow start to his AFL career, but from the time he received a Norwich Rising Star nomination in 1993 things began to pick up appreciably, and by the time he retired at the end of the 2007 season there was scarcely an honour in the elite game that he had failed to achieve. Joint Brownlow Medallist in 1996, AFL All Australian on five occasions, Norm Smith Medal winner and premiership captain in 2000, Essendon club champion five times and twice the club's leading goal kicker, captain of Australia at International Rules in 2000 - the list runs on and on. However, as mentioned above, he also suffered more than his fair share of serious injuries, forcing him to miss virtually the entire 1997 and 1999 seasons, and seriously undermining his effectiveness in 2002. When at peak fitness, however, there was no more valuable or eye catching a player in football. Playing nominally as a centre half forward, Hird enjoyed a 'license to roam' which could see him bob up almost anywhere on the ground to telling effect. Despite sometimes appearing almost lackadaisical in his approach, he was actually one of the most energetic and hard working players around, racking up possessions seemingly at will, and invariably using the ball with scrupulous efficiency. His career at Essendon saw him play a total of 253 AFL games and kick 343 goals, both of which tallies would, but for injury, have been considerably higher. He returned to Essendon as coach in 2011, taking the Bombers to the finals in his first season.
and...
Albert Thurgood
Originally played football at Brighton Grammar School before commencing his senior career in 1892, when he joined Essendon. Albert the Great as he was known, was an all round football champion of the highest order, and arguably the games first true superstar.
Tall and magnificently built, Thurgood could play in any position on the ground and was extraordinarily fast. It was said that he could run 100 yards in even time. His high marking was superb, his ground work robust, and he was said to be as nimble and agile as a hare. Like a true champion he rarely had an off day and he could kick brilliantly with every type of kick imaginable.
He was particularly renowned for his prodigious kicking, being recorded on one occasion as producing a place kick of 98.48 metres, or 107 yards 2 feet 1 inch. One of his drop kicks was allegedly measured at 82.3 metres, or 90 yards.
Thurgood played with Essendon from 1892 to 1894 and again from 1899 to 1902 and in 1906. He spent the 1895-6-7 seasons in Western Australia with Fremantle during a time when it arguably boasted the strongest team in the land. During his stint there he topped the WAFA goal kicking list on three consecutive occasions between 1895 and 1897, helping the side lift premierships in the first two of those years.
I didn't really need Thurgood considering later picks I have in mind but I couldn't let him past me either so he'll go in the pocket for now. Hirdy will go on a wing.
FB: ___ Jack Regan ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: James Hird Greg Williams ___
HF: Garry Wilson ___ Craig Bradley
FF: Albert Thurgood ___ ___
R: ___ ___ ___
I/C: ___ ___ ___
well there are still a few i could of picked but i couldn't go past picking my all time favorite player
so i pick
Paul Salmon
Paul Salmon
Played 324 games, kicking 561 goals for Essendon 1983-1995, 2002, and Hawthorn 1996-2000
Played in 18 finals, kicking 37 goals
109 Brownlow Medal votes
State representative on 14 occasions
International Rules representative on two occasions
Premierships 1985, 1993
Hawthorn best and fairest 1996, 1997
Captained his club on 23 occasions
Leading club goalkicker 1984, 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1992, 1993
All-Australian 1987, 1988, 1997
Pre-season premierships 1990, 1994, 1999
Michael Tuck Medallist 1999
Member of Hawthorn Team of the Century
PAUL Salmon, otherwise known as 'The Big Fish', enters the AFL Hall of Fame after a stellar 20-year career that began in 1983 and ended in 2002 after a remarkable Kevin Sheedy-inspired comeback.
The former North Ringwood ruckman played his first game for Essendon in round one, 1983, against the Sydney Swans. He would go on to play 224 games for the Bombers; 209 of which were recorded between 1983 and 1995 before he moved for Hawthorn for five seasons.
After playing 100 games and winning two best and fairest awards during his time in the brown and gold, Salmon retired at the end of 2000 with two premierships, seven club leading goalkicker awards and three All-Australian guernseys to his name.
In what was a stunning curtain call to his illustrious career, Salmon was then lured out of retirement by Essendon coach Sheedy, and drafted to the Bombers for one final season in 2002.
He played 15 games that year after re-entering the league as a 37-year-old, and was an influential figure in the Bombers' finals campaign that ended at the hands of Port Adelaide in the second week.
Salmon's career was all the more remarkable considering he suffered heartbreak in just his second year as a Bomber. A season-ending knee injury sustained in round 13, 1984, saw the big ruckman miss the club's premiership win that September and threatened his career.
He made up for it in stunning fashion by winning premiership medallions in 1985 and 1993.
Hirdy & Coleman gun picks 3 & 5. Hutchison is also a great pick.
Terry Daniher
I select Tim Watson to complete my half forward line. May move him as ruck rover later if need be for balance
A brilliant, creative half forward and later ruck rover, he started in 1977 at the age of fifteen years and nine months after coming from Dimboola. He was one of the youngest ever players for the Dons. By 1980 his superb ball skills, pace and balance combined to make him one of the League's mosts dynamic players.
He is a strong, aggressive, explosive player and fans would roar with excitement whenever he went near the ball. He is a totally unassuming champion. He was Essendon's vice-captain from 1982 and was acting captain for some of 1982. He won the Dons' best and fairest award in 1980 and 1985 and was runner up in the award in 1982 (equal) and 1983.
In 1980 he was favourite to win the Brownlow Medal but polled disappointingly to finish third. He was the Dons' second top vote scorer in that year, being outpolled by Merv Neagle. He was also the Dons' top vote scorer in the award in 1982 with 15 votes.
He finished his career with 307 games and 335 goals. He was Essendon's second top goalkicker in 1980 and third top in 1979. He kicked seven goals in a game in 1979. He had the breathtaking ability to change a game in midstream and is at his best did it in big games. He starred as a ruck rover in both the 1984 and 1985 premiership wins, after being knocked unconscious early in the 1983 grand final.
He was also best on the ground in the 1981 night premiership win and starred on the half forward flank in the 1984 night premiership win. Fans still talk about his superb single handed swerving, hurdling match winning goal in the 1981 night grand final.
He represented Victoria in 1980 at the age of nineteen and he was the second youngest State player ever in League history. He also represented the State in 1983 and 1985. He was vice captain in 1985. Watson was lured out of retirement and was a member of Essendon's 1993 premiership side.
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: ___ ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Tim Watson; Alex Jesaulenko
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls ___ ___
Jack Clarke for me. My midfield was looking weak and have added 2 of the finest midfielders Essendon have ever produced so quite pleased with that. I'll be doing profiles for my players tonight. About time I did. :P
B: _______, Geoff Southby, _______
HB: _______, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: _______, Jack Clarke, _______
HF: _______, Bernie Quinlan, _______
F: Jack Moriarty, Gordon Coventry, _______
R: _______, Dick Reynolds, _______
With first pick for Geelong you can not go past "God" Gary Ablett Snr
Gary Ablett, a truly gifted football player, recruited from Myrtleford by Bill McMaster who witnessed enough ‘magic’ to suggest he would fit into Geelong’s plans after a short stint at Hawthorn. For 12 years he displayed his awesome ability, there was no skill he did not possess, his marking at times spectacular as it was breathtaking, with a mighty leap he was literally flying to meet the ball securing it in a vice like grip. He had a powerful build, which enabled him to shrug off his opponents or burst through a pack, with the ability to kick goals from over 60 metres with monotonous regularity. With the excitement he generated supporters and football followers travelled many kilometres to see him play and they were never disappointed. Gary had the capability of winning a game off his own boot and inspired his teammates with the special genius of his play. His performance in the 1989 Grand Final was brilliant as he displayed the best facets of Australian Football that day. He has left a legacy wherein Gary Ablett is one of the greatest players to have played the game.
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: ___ ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Ringo Please. There can be only one, my pick. Graham "Polly" Farmer
i'll take Bernie Smith
A centreman during his career with West Adelaide as well as during the early part of his VFL stint with Geelong, Bernie Smith is better remembered as one of the greatest back pockets in the history of the game. Moved to the back pocket by coach Reg Hickey in 1951, he went on to win both the club best and fairest award and the Brownlow Medal that same season, while for good measure he was among the Cats' best in their grand final defeat of Essendon.
Smith was ideally suited to a back pocket because he was pacy, had good ground skills, marked well, was always cool under pressure, and had superb judgement. Opposition coaches came to view him as Geelong's first line of attack, and in what was a virtually unprecedented move for the times he was often subjected to what would now be called tagging.
Bernie Smith played 55 games with West Adelaide between 1945 and 1947, winning a best and fairest award in his final season. His last game for Westies was the winning grand final of 1947 against Norwood, in which he was widely acknowledged as the best player afield. He won two best and fairest trophies during 183 games in eleven seasons with Geelong, played in two premiership sides, was named in the inaugural All Australian team after the 1953 Adelaide carnival, and was captain of the Cats for part of 1950 and the whole of 1954. In 2001, he was selected in the back pocket in Geelong's official 'Team of the Century' having five years earlier been allocated the same position in the equivalent V/AFL combination.
West Adelaide premiership player 1947
Geelong premiership player 1951, 1952
Brownlow Medal 1951
Trabilsie Medal 1947
Carji Greeves Medal 1951, 1956
All-Australian team 1953
Geelong captain 1954
Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 1996
AFL Team of the Century (back pocket)
Geelong Team of the Century (back pocket)
South Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2002
Only due to needs but I'll take Gary Ablett Junior
Doug Wade and Reg Hickey for me.
Really hard choice but have to go George Moloney.
ok my pick is
Edward Goderich "Carji" Greeves, Junior
Glorying in the memorably distinctive nickname 'Carji', Edward Goodrich Greeves was immortalised when, in 1924, he won the first ever Brownlow Medal awarded to the best and fairest player in the Victorian Football League.
The name 'Carji' was reputedly bestowed on Greeves by a friend of the family, Michael Scott, a golfer from New South Wales. When Scott visited the Greeves family shortly after the youngster's birth, he thought he could detect a resemblance between the infant, who was allegedly quite dark-skinned, and a famous local entertainer who went by the name of 'Carjilo, the Rajah of Bong'. The nickname 'Carji' stuck, perhaps in part because it provided a convenient way to distinguish between the boy and his father, himself a former Geelong footballer of note, who also went by the name of Edward.
A natural sportsman, Edward Greeves excelled at cricket, tennis and rowing, but most especially at football. Geelong wanted him to line up for them while he was still at school, but the school authorities refused to allow it. He had to wait until 1923 to make his debut, quickly developing into one of the most eye-catching centremen in the game.
The prime reason that Greeves was so eye-catching was his kicking style, which was said to be one of the most classically perfect ever seen. Schoolboys all over Geelong would practise for hours trying to emulate it. Moreover, in an era when genuinely two-sided footballers were the exception rather than the rule, Greeves could kick with either foot with almost equal facility and expertise.
In 1924, the twenty year old Greeves' career blossomed when he was selected to represent the VFL at the Hobart carnival and, of course, won the inaugural Brownlow. With his elegant style of play ensuring that he always caught the umpire's eye, Greeves also later ran second in the Medal on three occasions in an era when only the best player afield received votes.
In 1928, well over half a century before Darren Bennett, Greeves spent nearly seven months in the USA, four of them as kicking coach for the University of Southern California's gridiron team, the Trojans (and not the University of South Carolina, as many sources wrongly suggest). Although he was not the first Australian footballer to have an impact on the American game - that honour resides with Pat O'Dea - he was the first such footballer to be deliberately 'head-hunted' by the Americans, and the first to travel to the USA for purposes specifically and exclusively to do with gridiron. While in California, Greeves was reportedly a great success, earning a gold medal for his services, and was indeed offered the opportunity to remain, but the 1929 VFL season saw him resuming his career with the Cats, for whom he went on to play a total of 137 games in eleven seasons, with premierships in 1925 and 1931 the highlights.
Brownlow Medal, 1924
Runner-up Brownlow Medal 1925, 1926, 1928
Geelong premiership player 1925, 1931
Inducted into the Australian Football Hall of Fame
Geelong Team of the Century
Purely positional need here. I'll take George "Jocka" Todd
George "Jocka" Todd (10 January 1903 â€" 13 August 1986) was an Australian rules footballer in the (then) Victorian Football League (VFL).
A tight checking full-back who spoiled well, Todd played his whole career with Geelong Football Club.
In 1996 Todd was inducted into the Australian Football Hall of Fame.
George was recruited from Queenscliff Football Club and played mainly at centre half-forward before transferring to the back line where he played the majority of his games as full back. He possessed outstanding skills and at times was unbeatable. He had the ability to punch the ball away from his opponents no matter how high they were in the air, and played in an era of some of the great full-forwards. His judgement was superb. A master of the drop kick he frequently landed the ball in the centre of the ground. Noted for his fair play, he was never ruffled under pressure.
Career highlights
Playing career:
Geelong 1922-1934 (Games: 232 Goals: 54)
Player honors:
Geelong Best and Fairest 1927, 1930, 1931
Geelong premierships 1925, 1931
Geelong Team of the Century
Victorian representative (12 games, 0 goals).
Details Number 19 Height 183 cm Weight 74 kg DOB 10-01-1903 Debut 1922
To add to Team Structure I select Dick Grigg
Dick could play in any position on the ground he had all the skills, from brilliant high marking to direct long kicking with flair and dash a feature of his play. Recruited from Drysdale as a schoolboy, he soon stood out with his outstanding ability and fair play gaining him a reputation of being as good a player as any in the land. He was an extremely fit and durable person, demonstrated by the fact during seasons 1904 and 1914 he played 130 consecutive games, missing only four in total. A legacy of his durability highlighted when in 1921 at 36 years of age, and not having played for six years he was recalled to the team to contest the finals.
Geelong Best and Fairest 1910,1911,1914
Geelong Team of the Century (Half-back)
Team Structure:
FB: ___ _____ ___
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Sid on another note Note I notice I have only 3 picks in the final draw but based on the draw assume I have last pick.
So Hawthorn....and what a barbie of a team to have number one pick for.....but I believe I will take Peter Hudson here and create a twin tower offence
Peter John Hudson AM (born 19 February 1946) is a former Australian rules football player, considered one of the greatest full-forwards in the game's history.
Hudson was prolific in his goal scoring in all senior competitions in which he competed. Originally from Tasmania, Hudson played with New Norfolk Football Club, in the Tasmanian Football League kicking 378 goals in 78 games. He then played 130 games with the Hawthorn Football Club in the Victorian Football League (now the Australian Football League). During this time he kicked 727 goals. Following his Hawthorn days he returned to Tasmania, playing a further 81 games for Glenorchy Football Club during which he kicked an amazing 616 goals. Some records state he actually kicked 769 goals for Glenorchy Football Club (the inaccuracy stems from the TANFL including goals scored in Intrastate and Interstate matches involving the TANFL and Tasmania as part of TANFL records at the time).[2]
Over his career he kicked 1,874 goals in senior matches spanning the period of 1963 to his final match in the 1981 TANFL Preliminary Final for Glenorchy, where Hudson, who had made a brief comeback with two rounds remaining booted 30 goals in three matches (including 6 in his team's Preliminary Final loss to New Norfolk).
His impressive tally increases to 2,191 when night series and representative games are included, averaging over 7 goals a game over his entire career. Hudson was kept goalless just three times during his senior career, by Richmond's Barry Richardson in 1969, Carlton's Rod Austin in 1977 and Bruce Greenhill of TFL club Sandy Bay in 1978.
Hudson's ability to win the ball was hard to pinpoint. There were times he seemed to gain possession of the ball ever so quietly and with consistent, nonchalant ease his tally of goals for the game would gradually climb. Among his armoury of skills, he seemed to have the ability to quietly sneak away from the opposition attendant full-back. Before the frustrated backman knew it, Hudson had taken a nice comfortable mark on his chest for a simple goal.
His son Paul also played for the Hawthorn Football Club, Western Bulldogs Football Club and Richmond Football Club, and nephew Simon Minton-Connell also played AFL football for the Carlton Football Club, Sydney Swans, Hawthorn Football Club and Western Bulldogs Football Club.
well my pick
Leigh Raymond "Lethal Leigh" Matthews
Popularly referred to as 'Lethal' there was nothing delicate or fancy about the style of Hawthorn champion Leigh Matthews. However, unlike in 'sports' like gymnastics, diving and synchronised swimming, Australian football scores do not derive in any directly assessable way from perceived aesthetic merit. Efficiency and expediency are paramount in Australian football, and Leigh Matthews possessed both in abundance.
Which is only to affirm that, in Australian football terms, he was a highly skilful player. In 332 VFL games over seventeen seasons with the Hawks he was eight times adjudged his club's fairest and most brilliant player - quite an awesome accolade when you consider that his career coincided with arguably Hawthorn's greatest ever era. He also topped the club goalkicking list on no fewer than six occasions in amassing a career total of 915 goals (and, in the process, highlighting another reason for the aptness of the 'Lethal' epithet).
Matthews' failure to secure Victorian football's highest individual honour, the Brownlow Medal, is perhaps not too surprising given his relentlessly vigorous style of play, but participation in the Hawthorn premiership sides of 1971, 1976, 1978 and 1983 will no doubt have afforded more than adequate compensation (if such were needed).
Following his retirement as a player, Matthews embarked on a highly successful coaching career which spawned AFL premierships with Collingwood in 1990, and Brisbane in 2001-2-3.
Career highlights
Hawthorn premiership player 1971, 1976, 1978
Hawthorn premiership captain 1983
Collingwood premiership coach 1990
Brisbane Lions premiership coach 2001, 2002, 2003
AFL Team of the Century, Forward pocket
Australian Football Hall of Fame
Legend (1996, inaugural)
Player of the Century
VFLPA MVP Award: 1982
Award renamed in Matthews' honour: 2002
Coleman Medal 1975
All-Australian Team 1972
Victorian representative captain
Peter Crimmins Medal
1971, 1972, 1974, 1976â€"1978, 1980, 1982
Hawthorn captain 1981â€"1985
Hawthorn leading goalkicker 1973, 1975, 1981â€"1984
All-Australian coach 2001, 2002, 2003
Jason Dunstall. I am going to have way too many fwds... fml.
FB: ___ Jack Regan ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: George Moloney, Greg Williams, James Hird
HF: Garry Wilson ___ Craig Bradley
FF: Dick Lee, Jason Dunstall ___
R: ___ ___ Gary Ablett Jr
I/C: Albert Thurgood ___ ___
There are a few I could take here...Quite a lot actually. Difficult pick this one...
Michael Tuck.
To solidify my defence I select Gary Ayres and Kelvin Moore
GARY AYRES
No.7
Position: Back pocket
Career: 1978-93
Games: 269. Goals: 70.
Captain: 1992-93. Premierships: 1983, 86, 88, 89, 91. Night premierships: 1985, 86, 88, 91, 92. Finals appearances: 27.
Awards: Six-time interstate representative; 1986 Club Champion; 1986, 88 Norm Smith Medallist.
Ayres was a fearless defender who played in five premierships with the Hawks. Coach Allan Jeans once described him as a good driver in heavy traffic, a tribute to his ability to manage pressure situations. Ayres won the 1986 Norm Smith Medal and then created history with his best afield performance in the 1988 grand final against Geelong, and becoming the first player to win the medal twice. After his retirement, Ayres joined Geelong and was appointed senior coach in 1995. He led the Cats into the Grand Final with his first attempt.
KELVIN MOORE
No. 15
Position: Full Back
Career: 1970-84
Games: 300. Goals: 21.
Premierships: 1971, 76, 78. Night premierships: 1977. Finals appearances: 19
Awards: 13 times interstate representative; 1979 All Australian; 1979 Club Champion.
Originally joined Hawthorn as a centre half-forward from the Frankston Peninsula. At his peak, Moore was recognised as the best full back in Australia with his razor sharp reflexes and uncanny anticipation. His reputation was built around his safe style of play, but from the mid 1970s he adopted a more attacking style. He remained cool under pressure and appeared to have plenty of time to set up his defence.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; Kelvin Moore; ___
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ ___ Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Need to lock down a wing so...
Robert DiPierdomenico
John Platten.
for my pick i'll take
Dermott Brereton add some extra hardness to the team :P
There have been better all round footballers than Dermott Brereton, but few who have possessed both his flamboyance and his big game temperament. Both traits were evident from the moment he made his Hawthorn debut in the VFL 1st semi final of 1982: Brereton booted five goals that day in a near best afield performance that helped the Hawks overcome North Melbourne, and over the years it would be his performances in finals that would do most to etch his name among the all time greats of the code. Much of Dermott Brereton's best football was played while he was suffering from injuries that other players would have found grossly incapacitating. He played for a couple of years witha cracked ankle bone, for instance, while his heroic performance in the 1989 grand final - won by Hawthorn over Geelong - came after he had been poleaxed by Mark Yeates at the opening bounce. Popularly known as 'The Kid', Brereton's body eventually sustained more in the way of pummelling than even he could take. After missing the whole of the 1993 season with a serious hip injury Brereton crossed to Sydney in 1994, but neither there (seven games) nor at Collingwood (15 games in 1995) was he able to recapture his former brilliance, although the support he gave to the younger brigade while with the Magpies was invaluable. Between 1982 and 1992 Dermott Brereton played 189 senior games for Hawthorn, winning abest and fairest award in 1985. He was a member of premiership teams in 1983, 1986,1988, 1989 and 1991, and represented Victoria in state of origin matches nine times, gaining All Australian selection once. Few if any players today come close to matching either the ferocity with which he attacked the football, or the level of dedication which he conferred on the Hawthorn cause.
Career highlights
Peter Crimmins Medal: 1985
Hawthorn premiership player: 1983, 86, 88, 89, 91
All Australian: 1985
Damn you Daz >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
I'll take Gary Buckenara
ok for the first pick of melbourne i'll go
Ivor Warne-Smith
Victorian Football League
On returning to Melbourne in 1919 Warne-Smith joined the Melbourne Football Club, in the VFL and played eight games at centre halfback in that season.
North-Western Football Union
In 1920, however, he moved to Latrobe in Tasmania, where he became an orchardist. From 1920 to 1924 he played with the Latrobe club (the Diehards) in the Tasmanian North-Western Football Union (NWFU), and was captain-coach from 1922 onwards. Latrobe were premiers in 1922 and 1924 and runners up in 1923. In 1923 and 1924 he was runner-up in the NWFU's Cheel Medal for the best and fairest player. He was captain of the NWFU representative team in statewide competition, and was selected to play for Tasmania in the 1924 national carnival, although he was unable to make the journey.
Back to the VFL
By 1924 Warne-Smith had such a reputation that Victorian teams were keen to bring him back to Melbourne, despite the fact that he was already 27. In 1925 he returned to the Melbourne club, where he played a further 146 games, usually in the backline. But he was also a talented ruckman and could play in the centre or forward line in required. Under his leadership Melbourne won the premiership in 1926, the club's first since 1900, and during 1926 Warne-Smith also won his first Brownlow Medal. From 1928 (the year he won his second Brownlow) to 1931 he was both captain and coach. He also played for Victoria against other state sides from 1926 to 1929, and was captain of the state team in 1928 and 1929. He officially retired from the playing at the end of 1931, but coached the club in 1932, and played in several games that season when other players were unavailable.
Career highlights
Playing career:
Melbourne (VFL) 1919, 1925â€"1932 (Games: 146 Goals: 110)
Latrobe (NWFU) 1920â€"1924
Player honors:
Brownlow Medal 1926, 1928
Runner-up Brownlow Medal 1929 (equal)
Runner-up Cheel Medal 1923, 1924
Latrobe premiership player 1922, 1924
Melbourne premiership player 1926
Melbourne Team of the Century
Tasmanian Team of the Century
Latrobe captain-coach 1922â€"1924
Melbourne captain-coach 1928â€"1931
Victorian representative (6 games, 0 goals).
Coaching record:
Melbourne 1928â€"32 (92 games, 48 wins, 42 losses, 2 draws)
Latrobe 1922â€"1924 (premierships 1922, 1924)
May not be the 2nd best Dees player ever but I'll take the late great Jim Stynes as I need a ruckman.
Ron Barassi for me.
Quote from: Sid on October 14, 2012, 10:54:43 PM
Ron Barassi for me.
Suppose a bit much to expect Barassi to last till pick 4. So I will take
Norm Smith. Smith became a regular in the first team in 1937. Usually playing as full-forward, Smith quickly developed an understanding with teammate Ron Baggott and earned a reputation as a cool-headed, "thinking" player. He favoured the pass to a man in a better position, the quick handball, the tap on and the shepherd for a teammate with the ball. One scribe commented that he "could make a forward line work around him" and he was the epitome of a team player. The Melbourne team was rising fast: they played finals in 1936 and 1937, but lost to more experienced opponents both times. The team took a step back in 1938, finishing fifth, but looked the team most likely throughout 1939.
Under Hughes, a successful former Richmond player and coach, Melbourne had remade themselves into a more professional outfit, after many years as an amateur club.[citation needed] Smith was one of many talented players who adhered to Hughes' doctrine. Now renamed the Red Demons (later to become simply the Demons), Melbourne went into the 1939 finals with a team based on all-out attack, with Smith the linchpin. In the Grand Final against Collingwood, Melbourne booted a record Grand Final score and set a new record winning margin, taking only their second premiership in 39 years. Another flag was won in 1940 when Smith was the star, scoring seven goals in the Grand Final. The following year, the team marked themselves as a special combination by completing the hattrick, despite missing players due to war service and injury on Grand Final day. Smith enjoyed his most productive season and finished the year as the VFL's leading goalkicker. He continued playing during the war years in a decimated Melbourne team. In 1944 Smith won The Herald newspaper's best player award.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; Kelvin Moore; ___
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: ___ Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Going to stick with my team needs rather than best player available here. Robert Flower and Garry Lyon
I select Todd Viney.
A Sturt recruit, Viney was mostly a wingman and on-baller for Melbourne. He finished equal fifth in the 1998 Brownlow Medal and twice won Melbourne's Best and fairest. Viney captained the Demons in 1998 and 1999 and earned All Australian selection that year. He announced his retirement before the end of the 1999 season due to nerve and hamstring related injuries. Viney is named in Melbourne’s Team of the Century, and is a member of the Club’s Hall of Fame.
Career Highlights:
Keith 'Bluey' Truscott Medal 1993, 1998
Melbourne captain 1998â€"1999
Melbourne Team of the Century
All-Australian Team 1998
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; Kelvin Moore; ___
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Cannot believe he made it to me, but I'm not going to complain. ;D
Jack Mueller.
Albert Chadwick.
well last pick for the Dee's i'll go
Fred Fanning (can always find a spot for a guy who can kick 18 goals in one game lol )
Fred Fanning had a comparatively brief league career but managed one feat that will take some beating. During his final season with Melbourne in 1947 he kicked an all time VFL record tally of 18 goals against St Kilda. He ended the season with a league ladder-topping 97 goals, his best ever return, but the following year he accepted the post of playing-coach at Victorian country team Hamilton, which had offered him nearly three times as much money per match as he was getting in the VFL. Thus, at the age of just twenty-five, his league football career was over (see footnote 1).
That career had begun in 1940 when, in a handful of senior appearances, which included the winning grand final against Richmond, he showed signs of developing into an admirable foil for full forward Norm Smith. At 193cm and 102kg, Fanning was something of a man mountain, and once he had set his sights on the ball there were few opposition players capable of impeding him. He was surprisingly quick over the ground, possessed huge hands which gripped the ball like a vice, and had a gravity-defying leap that enabled him to get sufficiently high in the air as to, in effect, add a good metre to his height.
Unfortunately for Melbourne and Fanning, however, cartilage problems prevented his resuming in 1941, and when he did return the following year he took time to re-discover his touch. Nevertheless, with 37 goals he topped the Redlegs' list for the first of five occasions, and in 1943 he did even better, kicking 62 goals to finish just one adrift of the league's leading goal kicker, Dick Harris of Richmond.
Fanning went on to top the league list himself on three occasions, with 87 goals in 1944, 67 in 1945 and, as noted above, 97 in his final season. He spent much of the 1946 season away from the goal front, but still managed 56 goals for the year.
Fred Fanning's 104 VFL games yielded a total of 411 goals, but his contribution to the club cause went much further than that. In 1945, for example, he won Melbourne's best and fairest award, and far from being 'goal hungry', his fundamental approach to the game was classically team-orientated, with his robust and sturdy frame frequently being brought to bear in the self-sacrificial service of team mates.
He might not have been pretty to watch, but he was demonstrably and consistently effective, and his premature departure left the league football scene the poorer.
Footnotes
It should not be inferred that this was in any way an uncommon occurrence. The VFL of the 1940s was emphatically not the equivalent of today's AFL, which has rightly been compared, in terms of the quality of the players to which it is home, to the apex of a pyramid. In days gone by, however, many elite footballers used the VFL (or SANFL, or WANFL) as a stepping stone to a more lucrative football career elsewhere. Return to Main Text
Wayne Carey.
Keith Greig.
To complete my back line I choose David Dench
One of the best performed and most popular players ever to wear the royal blue and white, David Dench was recruited from West Coburg, and spent his entire football career at Arden Street. Independent judges have no difficulty in placing him among the greatest full-backs ever to pull on a boot. Rival full-forwards rarely did well on him, but he wasn't just a defensive player; he was actually the springbroard for North's attacks. At 20 he was appointed North's captain, one of the youngest to have such an honour in League ranks. That was in 1972, and yet, when North in their restructuring, decided to give the captaincy to Barry Davis, David Dench took it with good grace. As things turned out, his attitude was amply rewarded because like Davis before him, he won the privilege of holding aloft the 1977 VFL Premiership Cup on grand final day, because serious injury prevented the regular captain, Keith Greig from taking part.
He was North's Syd Barker Medallist in no less than four seasons, equalling the club record - 1971, 1976, 1977 and 1981. He represented Victoria on four occasions, and is the proud holder of the life membership. When his playing days were over, he was North's assistant coach in 1985.
Between 1969 and 1984, David Dench played 276 games and scored 26 goals.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
Once again playing for a little positional need I shall take Ross Glendinning
for my 2 i pick first off
Malcom Blight very happy to see him slip to me :D
During its comparatively fleeting involvement in the SANFL it is doubtful if the Woodville Football Club produced a more prodigious all round talent than Malcolm Jack Blight. In two separate stints at Oval Avenue Blight played a total of 163 games, won the 1972 Magarey Medal, was twice named Woodville's best and fairest player, made 7 appearances for South Australia earning All Australian selection on two occasions separated by thirteen years, and, for good measure, topped the SANFL goalkicking in 1985, his final league season, with 126 goals.
In between he spent a decade with North Melbourne where he became arguably the most celebrated South Australian to transfer to the VFL up to that point. His record while in Melbourne is worth summarising:
member of premiership sides in 1975 and 1977
member of North's 1980 night premiership team
1978 Brownlow Medallist
7 interstate appearances for the VFL including 2 as captain
4 times club leading goalkicker
Coleman Medallist in 1982
Played 180 club games including 22 consecutive finals appearances The bare facts reveal nothing of the artistry, power and genius of Blight's play, however. Thankfully, his career coincided with the onset of the video age, and so a fair number of his more memorable feats have been recorded for posterity.
If Malcolm Blight the player was among the greatest to have adorned the game, Malcolm Blight the coach was no slouch either. After proving himself the most successful coach in Woodville's brief and predominantly ignominious history, he steered a hitherto under-achieving Geelong side to three grand finals, before returning home to South Australia and masterminding the first two premierships in the history of the Adelaide Crows. A brief stint at St Kilda was less successful, but his achievements with the Crows would doubtless have been sufficient to earn him the keys to the city of Adelaide for life
All-Australian team 1972, 1985
Magarey Medal 1972
Woodville Best & Fairest 1972, 1985
North Melbourne premiership player 1975, 1977
North Melbourne leading goalkicker 1978, 1979, 1981, 1982
Brownlow Medal 1978
Syd Barker Medal 1978
Coleman Medal 1982
Woodville captain-coach 1983-85
Ken Farmer Medal 1985
Woodville Football Club Life Member 1987
Adelaide premiership coach 1997, 1998
SANFL Team of the Century (forward pocket)
Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 1996
South Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2002
Woodville-West Torrens Life Member
Woodville-West Torrens Life Governor
and for the 2nd i pick
Brent Harvey (get some midfield/ forward work so bit of utility for me)
Drafted by the Kangaroos in the third round of the 1995 AFL Draft, Brent "Boomer" Harvey found himself in a North Melbourne premiership side in 1999, following an E. J. Whitten Medal victory playing for Victoria in the State of Origin series. He won the Syd Barker Medal in 2003, as well as the Jim Stynes Medal in the International rules series, captaining the Australian team in the 2008 International Rules Series.[1] A highlight of his 2003 season was against Carlton at the Telstra Dome in Round 22. Playing in his 150th game, Harvey kicked three goals in the Roos record-breaking 124 point victory, Carlton's worst ever defeat.[2] He is the only North Melbourne player to have played every game at Manuka Oval during North Melbourne's nine-year stint at the venue. In 2007 Harvey polled 22 votes in the Brownlow Medal, finishing equal second and in 2008 Harvey polled 17 votes to finish in eighth place despite being one of the favourites to win the award in both years.[3] In 2010, the week after a career-low five possession game against St Kilda, Harvey led North Melbourne to a 25-point win over West Coast Eagles with a career-best 44 disposals, along with 11 marks, six goal scoring assists and one goal. Harvey also almost kicked a candidate for goal of the year, taking seven bounces of the ball in a run from defence before hitting the post with his shot at goal.[4] In 2011, playing his 312th game, he broke Glenn Archer's all-time club record for games played. His grandfather, Bill Harvey played two games for North Melbourne in 1948, and his brother Shane Harvey played 14 games for Essendon and North Melbourne between 2002 and 2004. In 2012, Harvey is the only remaining player from North Melbourne's 1999 premiership winning team still playing, following Cameron Mooney's retirement at the end of 2011.
North Melbourne reserves premiership side 1996
North Melbourne night premiership side 1998
North Melbourne grand final side 1998
North Melbourne premiership side 1999
North Melbourne night grand final side 2000
E. J. Whitten Medal 1999
All-Australian 2000, 2005, 2007, 2008
International Rules 2000, 2001, 2003, 2005, 2008
International Rules captain 2008
Jim Stynes Medal 2005
Syd Barker Medal 2003, 2005, 2007, 2008, 2010 (tied with Brady Rawlings)
Brownlow Medal runner up 2007
Lou Richards Medal 2007, 2008
Herald Sun player of the year 2008
Archer-Hird Medal 2009
Archer-Hird Medal 2011
Barry Cable
As Barry Cable did not slip I will now select Wayne Schimmelbusch. Will probably be on the interchange bench initially.
Career: 1973-1987
Games: 306
Goals: 354
Brownlow Medal: 68 career votes
Guernsey numbers: 20
Height: 179cm
Weight: 74kg
DOB: 19 January 1953 (Debut: 20y 78d, last game: 34y 132d)
One of North's favourite sons, Wayne was recruited from former VFA club, Brunswick, where he had won the Field Medal. He was capable of holding down several positions on the field but over his long career North got the most from him on the wing or on the half-forward flank. Though not spectacular, he was relentless, more correctly courageous, and these qualities were captued by a superb photo taken of him being greeted by his jubilant coach John Kennedy. He is absolutely exhausted, having given his all to lead his players to a stunning victory over the more fancied Carlton in the Elimination Final at VFL Park in 1985. Under his dedicated captaincy, the Kangaroos, who had been trailing at three quarter-time by 17 points, kicked eight goals in the final term to run out winners by 19 points, and keep their premiership hopes alive.
He was a prolific goal kicker, and a truly committed team player. Given his many and attributes and his having been acting vice-captain of the 1977 premiership team, it is not surprising that he was made captain in 1979, and that he held that post for a record term of 10 years during which the club played in six finals series'. In 1980 Wayne had the delight of holding aloft the Escort Cup after North's controversial victory in the night series final over Collingwood. Sadly, his playing career ended with a serious knee injury against the Swans at the SCG; that was only weeks after he had captained Victoria against South Australian in Adelaide, his 11th time in the State colours. He never played again.
'Schimma' was an integral part of North's two premiership victories, and he holds the club record for the most VFL finals appearances. He appeared in the September action on 29 occasions, and he always did the club proud. Despite his playing career being cut short, he still holds the record for the most games played for the Kangaroos. On no less than 306 occasions he pulled on his boots for North, and amassed a staggering goal aggregate of 355, between 1973 and 1987.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson: Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Going to round out my back 6 with Glenn Archer.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Keith Greig, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: _______, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: _______, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Jack Moriarty, Gordon Coventry, Doug Wade
R: _______, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, _______, _______, _______
Quote from: Ringo on October 19, 2012, 06:07:03 PM
To complete my back line I choose David Dench
One of the best performed and most popular players ever to wear the royal blue and white, David Dench was recruited from West Coburg, and spent his entire football career at Arden Street. Independent judges have no difficulty in placing him among the greatest full-backs ever to pull on a boot. Rival full-forwards rarely did well on him, but he wasn't just a defensive player; he was actually the springbroard for North's attacks. At 20 he was appointed North's captain, one of the youngest to have such an honour in League ranks. That was in 1972, and yet, when North in their restructuring, decided to give the captaincy to Barry Davis, David Dench took it with good grace. As things turned out, his attitude was amply rewarded because like Davis before him, he won the privilege of holding aloft the 1977 VFL Premiership Cup on grand final day, because serious injury prevented the regular captain, Keith Greig from taking part.
He was North's Syd Barker Medallist in no less than four seasons, equalling the club record - 1971, 1976, 1977 and 1981. He represented Victoria on four occasions, and is the proud holder of the life membership. When his playing days were over, he was North's assistant coach in 1985.
Between 1969 and 1984, David Dench played 276 games and scored 26 goals.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ ___
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson ___
and if your team is ever short of funds......l'm sure he'd be able to do some creative accounting for you too ::)
So is Sid back up now with Richmond?
Quote from: BratPack on October 23, 2012, 11:48:45 AM
So is Sid back up now with Richmond?
I think we're up to Boomzie but can't hurt to move on I suppose.
Jack Dyer. Mostly due to positional needs.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Keith Greig, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: _______, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: _______, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Jack Moriarty, Gordon Coventry, Doug Wade
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, _______, _______, _______
Sorry guys just been distracted. Les Foote for my skipped pick.
FB: Albert Chadwick, Jack Regan ___
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: George Moloney, Greg Williams, James Hird
HF: Garry Wilson, Wayne Carey, Craig Bradley
FF: Dick Lee, Jason Dunstall ___
R: Jim Stynes ___ Gary Ablett Jr
I/C: Albert Thurgood, Les Foote, ___
I will select the great Kevin Bartlett
Bartlett was a rover and goalkicker who was known as 'Hungry' due to his unwillingness to handball. He is known for great evasiveness and stamina, he could win a game off his own boot. A winner of five premierships with Richmond, he also won the Norm Smith Medal in 1980 after kicking seven goals in the Grand Final. With 403 games, only Michael Tuck of Hawthorn has played more VFL/AFL games. Bartlett was renowned for his skill and concentration on the game and was instrumental in many Tiger wins.
Bartlett grew up barracking for the Footscray Football Club, and watched their only premiership in 1954. As a teenager, he walked from his home in Lennox St, Richmond to the Punt Road Oval, where he was greeted by Richmond's Fourth coach Bill Boromeo. It was this chance meeting that set in the motion for Bartlett to eventually play at Richmond. He began his career with the under 17's side where he won the goalkicking and the best and fairest in 1962. In 1963, he won the Best and Fairest in the under 19's and Richmond made the under 19's final series. Bartlett however was injured seconds into the first final against Geelong, which resulted him being taken to the Prince Henry Hospital where it was revealed that a cyst was embedded in his hip. It was while waiting for the ambulance to collect him in the MCG change rooms, that he first met Jack Dyer. Dyer had appeared at the match on advice of Richmond under 19's coach Ray Jordon â€" and visited Bartlett in the rooms to tell him he will be okay. The following year for Bartlett (1964) involved rehabilitation, as he still experienced pain around his hip area.
Team Structure:
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: ___ Norm Smith; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson: Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Not really a pressing need but I can't pass up the great Royce Hart with the #3 pick
i/ll take francis bourke
Recruited from Nathalia, Francis Bourke overcame a heart murmur to become one of Richmond's greatest ever players - quite an accolade when you consider the number of out-and-out champions whose names grace the Punt Road honour board. Initially a wingman, Bourke later excelled in defence where his courage, pace, anticipation and refusal to be beaten made him ideally suited. Known affectionately as 'Saint Francis', Bourke represented Richmond in 302 VFL games and his state on 13 occasions. He won the Tigers' top award in 1970, and was a member of five Richmond premiership teams. Following his retirement, Bourke coached Richmond to the 1982 grand final, which was disappointingly lost against arch rivals Carlton. When the side slumped to 10th place the following year, Bourke's brief VFL coaching career came to a peremptory end, but no coach since has managed to steer the Tigers beyond the preliminary final.
Career highlights
Richmond premiership player 1967, 1969, 1973, 1974, 1980
Richmond Team of the Century
Jack Dyer Medal 1970
Richmond Captain 1976â€"1977
Richmond Coach 1982â€"1983
Richmond Life Member 1976[2]
Richmond Hall of Fame, inducted 2002
Richmond "Immortal", conferred 2005
100 Tiger Treasures "Brave Act of the Century"
Australian Football Hall of Fame, inducted 2002
AFL Team of the Century
Interstate Games: 13
Victorian captain 1977, 1980
Roy Wright & Vic Thorp. Very happy to get both.
FB: Albert Chadwick, Jack Regan, Vic Thorp
HB: ___ Paul Roos ___
C: George Moloney, Greg Williams, James Hird
HF: Garry Wilson, Wayne Carey, Craig Bradley
FF: Dick Lee, Jason Dunstall ___
R: Roy Wright ___ Gary Ablett Jr
I/C: Albert Thurgood, Les Foote, Jim Stynes ___
i'll pick Jack titus
Standing just 175cm in height, and weighing in at a meagre 65.5kg, Richmond forward Jack 'Skinny' Titus could scarcely be said to look like a league footballer - until he took to the field. It was then that all of his pace, poise and extraordinary nimbleness, both of body and of mind, came to the fore. Like Kevin Bartlett in later years, he was supremely adept at keeping his lightweight frame out of trouble - or of earning free kicks on those rare instances that his incomparable skills of elusiveness failed him. Nevertheless, he was often prevented from training on Tuesday evenings as a result of knocks received on the preceding Saturday.
Recruited from Castlemaine in 1926, Titus played much of his early football on a half forward flank, before developing into one of the many highly accomplished full forwards to grace the VFL during the 1930s. When Richmond was a league power during the late 1920s and early 1930s, Titus was a prominent and influential figure. Among the best players on the ground as a half forward flanker in the Tigers' 1932 grand final defeat of Carlton, he was a near unanimous choice as best afield two years later when his six goals from full forward against South Melbourne effectively comprised the difference between the two teams.
Although he was undoubtedly a very prolific goal kicker, as his overall tally of 970 goals in 294 VFL games (at a per match average of 3.29) clearly attests, Jack Titus' contribution to the team cause always went far beyond the kicking of goals, which may be why the VFL selectors turned to him so often (14 times in all) rather than his ostensibly more prolific counterparts.
After retiring from football at the end of the 1943 season, Titus spent a year out of the game before making a one season comeback with Coburg in 1945. He immediately showed that he had lost none of his talent and nouse by booting 119 goals for the year to assist his new team to third place on the ladder. It was the second time Titus had topped the century; the first was five years earlier, when his tally of precisely 100 goals for Richmond had enabled him to top the VFL goal kicking list for the only time in his career. He was Richmond's top goal kicker eleven times, and won the club's 1941 best and fairest award.
Sixty years after his last game for the Tigers 'Skinny' Titus was a predictable choice as full forward in the club's official 'Team of the 20th Century'.
Career highlights
Richmond Premiership Player 1932, 1934
Richmond Best and Fairest 1929, 1941
Richmond Leading Goalkicker 1929â€"1930, 1934â€"1942
VFL Leading Goalkicker 1940
Interstate Games:- 14
Richmond Team of The Century
Richmond Hall of Fame â€" inducted 2002
Australian Football Hall of Fame
Couple I was tossing up between but the prospect of an 800 goal kicker coming off the bench as the Power Forward is too much to resist. Matthew Richardson
Tossing up between 2 players and I will select Kevin Sheedy Handy emergency or bench player
Returned to fitness, Sheedy faced an enormous challenge in 1968. Fortunately coach Tom Hafey saw something in Sheedy's willingness to listen, his determination and fierce desire for the ball. Placed in a back pocket, Sheedy consolidated his place in the senior side and then began to emerge as key player in the team's defence. He won a Victorian guernsey in 1969 and was a stand out in the Tigers' three finals games, which culminated in a second flag in three years. He finished runner-up best and fairest to claim a remarkable turn around in just two years.
By now, Sheedy's on-field persona marked him as a "villain" to be watched. He enjoyed niggling his opponents, physically and verbally and seemed to be at the centre of every melee on the ground. Occasionally, his teammates blanched at some of his more theatrical attempts to win free kicks or fifteen-metre penalties and he had the ability to drive opposing supporters into a frenzy. Since his injury, Sheedy had lived on the edge knowing that if he failed at Richmond it would be the end of the line because of the impending five-year suspension. But he seemed to have an innate ability to read how far he could push the envelope and indeed he was never reported during his career, a fact that would surprise most who saw him play.
He was now acknowledged the best in his position in the VFL and a key personality at Punt Road. A turning point came in the 1972 season, when Sheedy played in Richmond's losing Grand Final team. In an earlier final, Sheedy had ruffled Carlton's captain coach John Nicholls, suggesting that he was finished as a player and that Richmond had the wood on the Blues. Nicholls and his men, stung by media criticism and the attitude of the Richmond players, played a whirlwind first half in the Grand Final, booting eighteen goals to lead by 45 points. Sheedy, caught embarrassingly out of position a number of times, was switched to the unfamiliar position of ruck rover for the last half. Although the Tigers lost, Sheedy was a revelation in his new role.
Now permanently playing on the ball, he set up Richmond's Grand Final win in 1973 with three goals in the first quarter. In 1974, he was best afield in the Grand Final with 30 disposals highlighted by an uncanny piece of play in the second quarter. Sheedy marked next to the goalpost, went back to apparently take his kick from the impossible angle surrounded by opposition players, then casually ran in and handballed over the head of the man on the mark to lone teammate in the goalsquare who booted the easiest goal of his life. It was this mixture of flamboyance and cunning that attracted the media to him, and Sheedy was voted player of the year by journalists.
Sheedy made good copy; during the season Richmond had appointed him as full-time promotions officer, effectively making him the first professional footballer in the VFL. In time, all of the clubs would copy this appointment and by the 1980s, most clubs had a half dozen or so players employed as promotions officers. It was a bridge between the casual Saturday afternoon era and the age of true professionalism in the 1990s.
After finishing third in 1975, Richmond began a slide down the ladder. Sheedy's standard remained high â€" in 1976 he won the best and fairest for the only time and received life membership of the club. But he was shocked when his mentor and idol Tom Hafey left the club due to a lack of support at committee level. In 1978, he was made captain but his game was now struggling and he resigned after just one year. After just four games the following season, Sheedy read the writing on the wall when he was started all of the matches on the bench. He announced his retirement and immediately became an assistant to coach Tony Jewell. Throughout the 1980 season, it was clear he was preparing for a senior coaching role. He examined every facet of the club as the team went on to take the premiership.
Career Highlights:
Richmond premiership player 1969, 1973, 1974
Jack Dyer Medal 1976
Richmond captain 1978
All-Australian coach 1993, 2000
Australian Football Hall of Fame 2008
Richmond Team of the Century (back pocket)
Richmond Hall of Fame 2002
Couple of players I was considering but going to go with Dale Weightman.
As I need another Forward I will select Tony Lockett
hall of fame
Anthony T 'Tony' Lockett
One of the all-time great full-forwards who had a magnificent career at St Kilda.
St Kilda 1983-94 183 games 898 goals. Sydney 1995-97 53 games 268 goals. (b: 9 Mar 1966 191 cms 110 kgs). One of the all-time great full-forwards who had a magnificent career at St Kilda and added another chapter with his feats for Sydney. The son of a country star who Bob Davis believed was one of the best footballers not to play League football. Tony's family in Ballarat was reluctant to let him come to the city and so was he.
Coach Tony Jewell recalled that the first time he trained with the team he said: "Why would I want to play with all those big heads?" From the moment the ex-North Ballarat boy booted a goal with his first kick in League football St Kilda knew they had something special. His vice-like marking and overwhelming strength soon rocketed him to stardom and he gave a hint of things to come with 77 goals in his second season.
In 1987 he booted 117 goals to head the goalkicking and became the first full-forward to win a Brownlow. Lockett found the glare of being in the spotlight intrusive and over the years his relations with an inquisitive media were frequently strained. Although his weight was a recurring problem he had tremendous pace over the vital first five yards and once he secured front position was virtually unstoppable.
Lockett's breathtaking style made him one of the few men who could attract crowds on his own. In the years immediately after his Brownlow win he was dogged by injury and a series of other misfortunes breaking his ankle in 1988 and having his season cut short by suspension and groin problems in 1989. He was in devastating form early in 1990 until injuring a knee and prior to 1991 was the fittest he had ever been. When he seriously damaged the wing vertebrae in his back it seemed that he was jinxed yet again but he overcame the delayed start to the season by booting 12 goals in his return game against the Crows. He went on to kick 127 goals and earn another Coleman Medal. His tremendous form lifted St Kilda to its first finals appearance in 18 years. He subsequently kicked 15 goals in a game In 1992 he booted 132 goals including a new club record 15 against Sydney but the following year he was again dogged by injuries and missed the latter part of the season when he aggravated his back injury.
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden ___ Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson; Kevin Sheedy; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Pretty easy pick for me with Lockett missing. Robert Harvey
my pick and am stoked that he slipped to me
Ian Stewart
The label 'legend' is bandied about quite indiscriminately these days but it would be hard to disagree with its appropriateness in the case of Ian Harlow Stewart. Born in the western Tasmanian mining settlement of Queenstown, where footballers do not have the luxury of grass to cushion their falls, Stewart is one of an elite band of just four players to have won the coveted Brownlow Medal on three separate occasions. Although neither strongly built nor especially athletic looking he was enormously tough and resilient, and his outward appearance belied enormous, some would say unique, native ability. Indefatigably accurate when kicking with either foot, Stewart was also deceptively strong overhead (in the 1966 season, for instance, he took more marks than any other player in the VFL), and so courageous that he frequently won possessions that logic told you he had no right to. He was also extraordinarily elusive, seldom being caught with the ball - small wonder that the umpires took note to the extent of awarding him more Brownlow votes than any other player of his era.
Ian Stewart's senior career began with Hobart in 1962 where he played 13 senior games and was selected in both of Tasmania's interstate games that year, against the VFA and the VFL. In the latter game, playing in the centre, he gave clear notice that he was a star in the making by outpointing his direct opponent on the day, Geelong's Alastair Lord, who later that season would win the Brownlow Medal. Wooed across the Bass Strait by St Kilda the following year he rapidly formulated an irresistible partnership with fellow Taswegian Darrel Baldock which was largely responsible in 1966 for steering the Saints to their first, and so far only, senior premiership.
After seven seasons and 127 games with St Kilda Stewart's career looked to be waning but in 1971 he moved to Richmond and immediately won another Brownlow to add to the two won previously in 1965 and 1966. While at Punt Road he linked up to great effect with another high profile Tasmanian player in the shape of Royce Hart. Stewart's 78 games with the Tigers included the victorious grand final of 1973 and took his final VFL games tally to 205. He originally retired midway through the 1974 season only to make a handful of appearances the following year before finally calling it a day for good.
Ian Stewart's selection as centreman in the official Tasmanian 'Team of the Century', which was announced in June 2004, was as inevitable as it was justified. Two years later he was inducted as an icon in Tasmanian Football's official Hall of Fame
Career highlights
St Kilda best and fairest 1964, 1966
St Kilda captain 1969
St Kilda premiership player 1966
Interstate games: 4
Victorian state representative 1966
Brownlow Medallist 1965 (tie), 1966, 1971
Richmond best and fairest 1971
Richmond premiership player 1973
All-Australian 1966
Australian Football Hall of Fame Inductee 1996, Legend 1997
St Kilda Team of the Century (centre)
Just got home. Picking soon.
Baldock... Don't know how he lasted until now :-X My froward line is crowded as hell....
Trevor Barker and (for positional needs) Steven Milne.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Doug Wade
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Dale Weightman, _______, _______
Picking soon.
My bad... Verdun Howell.. Picked yesterday but the post timed out and forgot to redo.
i'll take neil roberts
1952-62 169 games 40 goals. (b: 15 Jun 1933 185 cms 84.5 kgs). Roberts provided one of the most famous cases of a failed forward making the grade as a defender. After his first two and a half seasons it seemed he was going nowhere as a footballer but a switch to centre half-back changed the course of his football. His long arms hauled down countless marks and started attacks from the backline. He established himself as a star in 1955 winning the club's best and fairest and a place in the state team. He also finished third in the Brownlow and from that moment never looked back. His blond hair good looks and perfect build made him a media favourite. Prior to the 1958 season he concentrated on running rather than swimming over the summer and he had a great season. Roberts was an inspiring leader deputising for the injured Brian Gleeson and won the Brownlow by two votes. He was appointed skipper in 1959 and remained leader until he retired at the relatively young age of 29. Not the greatest kick of all time but he made up for it with his marking. Roberts led St Kilda into the finals for the first time in 1961 after 22 years on the sidelines. He played 11 games for Victoria. He became a well-respected commentator and was sometimes mentioned as a possible League coach but always declined.
Career highlights
St Kilda Best and Fairest 1955, 1958
Brownlow Medallist 1958
Victorian state representative 11 times
All Australian 1958
Two I'm tossing up between but I'll play to positional need. Kevin "Cowboy" Neale
I will select Ross G Smith
Smith took several years to blossom as a rover although his courage and determination were never in doubt.
1961-72 and 1975 234 games 231 goals. (b: 8 Sep 1942 173 cms 75 kgs). Smith's career proved the value of persisting. Smith took several years to blossom as a rover although his courage and determination were never in doubt. He didn't make the Saints' senior list at first but after a great game for the seconds he won promotion for the second round. It wasn't until the preliminary final of 1966 that his career kicked into a higher gear. He starred in the Saints' win and was part of the flag side a week later. In 1967 he consistently turned in tireless roving displays and was a prolific kickwinner. He earned his first Victorian guernsey and then bolted away to win the Brownlow with 24 votes. His improvement was illustrated by the fact that in six previous seasons he had scored only six votes. Smith won his second club championship in 1971 and was tipped to win a second Brownlow. He played in the 1971 runner-up team that year. He captained the Victorian side at the 1972 carnival and led the Saints from 1970 to 1972.
Career Highlights
Trevor Barker Award 1967, 1971
Brownlow Medallist 1967
St Kilda Football Club Premiership player 1966
Victoria State Captain 1972
St Kilda Football Club Captain 1970â€"1972
St Kilda Football Club Coach 1977
AFL Australian Football Hall Of Fame Inductee 2010
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Robert Walls; Tim Watson; Kevin Sheedy; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Pretty easy choice for me to open up South Melbourne/Sydney. Bob Skilton
Robert John "Bob" Skilton (born 8 November 1938) is a former Australian rules footballer who represented South Melbourne
Playing as a rover, Skilton is one of only four players to have won the Brownlow Medal three times; in 1959 (when he tied with Verdun Howell), and in 1963 and 1968.
He was rated by Jack Dyer as better than Haydn Bunton, Sr and equal to Dick Reynolds, making him one of the best players in the history of the game.
Skilton made his senior debut at the age of 17 in round five, 1956 and went on to play 237 matches for the 'Bloods' before he retired in 1971, at the time a club record. He scored 412 goals in that time and was the club's leading goalkicker on three occasions. Nicknamed 'Chimp', he showed great grit and determination and became well known for giving maximum effort at all times.
Only 171 cm tall, Skilton was particularly fast and a superb baulker, allowing him to avoid opponents when necessary. He was never shy of attacking the ball, however, and in his 16 year career suffered many injuries, including concussion, a broken nose four times, a broken wrist three times and 12 black eyes.
It was his appearance on the front page of The Sun News-Pictorial in 1968 with two black eyes that earned him the Douglas Wilkie Medal. The black eyes were a consequence of a severe facial injury, which included depressed fractures of his cheekbones, due to collisions in successive weeks from Footscray's Ken Greenwood, his own teammate John Rantall and then Len Thompson.[1]
An extended series of graphic photographs displaying the true extent of Skilton's injury used to be on display at the team's rooms at the Lake Oval, prior to its move to Sydney (it is not on display in Sydney and it is commonly understood that it was first removed from display at the Lake Oval as part of the effort to get Tuddenham to coach South Melbourne in 1978).
He missed the entire 1969 VFL season after snapping an Achilles tendon in a pre-season practice match against SANFL club Port Adelaide.
One of his greatest assets was the ability to kick with both feet, a skill learned at the insistence of his father Bob Skilton senior, a track and field athlete, and developed by spending hours kicking the ball against a wall, collecting it on the rebound and kicking again with the other foot. It was impossible to say whether he was right or left footed, since his left foot gave greater accuracy, but his right greater distance. He had arguably the most accurate stab kick in the game. The stab kick has now all but disappeared.
Chosen to represent his state in 25 games, Skilton captained the Victorian team in 1963 and 1965. The downside of his career was the lack of success of his club. He often said that he would trade any of his three Brownlow Medals for a Premiership or even the chance to play in a Grand Final, and felt the highest point of his career was the one occasion South Melbourne made the finals in 1970 (under the great Norm Smith), finishing fourth after losing the first semi-final against St Kilda.
After 16 years at South Melbourne, including two years as playing coach in 1965â€"1966 and 9 club best and fairest awards, Skilton then played for his boyhood team, Port Melbourne in the VFA and later coached Melbourne from 1974â€"1977, with a best finish of sixth. Since then, Skilton has been honoured by being named captain of the Swans' team of the century, and named in the AFL team of the century. He was also the player featured inside the cover of the booklets of stamps featuring the Swans released by Australia Post to commemorate the centenary of the VFL/AFL.
Skilton made a speech in the post-match presentations of the 2005 AFL Grand Final following his team's first win in 72 years, and was tasked to present the trophy at the 2012 AFL Grand Final.
well i need a FF
Bob Pratt
Few names in football resonate so compellingly down the decades as that of Bob Pratt. His VFL record tally of 150 goals kicked in 1934 (later equalled by Hawthorn's Peter Hudson, albeit from more matches played) remains one of the most iconic achievements in the game.
Originally from Mitcham, Pratt made his VFL debut with South Melbourne as a seventeen year old in 1930, and went on to play 158 games for the club between then and 1939 and in 1946, kicking 681 goals. He was South's leading goal kicker in a season in 1932 (71 goals), 1933 (109), 1934 (150), 1935 (103), 1936 (64) and 1938 (72). He topped the league's goal kicking list from 1933 to 1935. His best effort in a single game was 15 goals against Essendon in 1934. He also managed bags of 12 (once), 11 (three times), 10 (three times), nine (four times) and eight (six times).
Best remembered for his shoulder-scraping marks Pratt would have been a thoroughgoing sensation had he played during the videotape era. Other VFL and VFA goalsneaks of the time - Titus, Mohr, Vallence, and Todd, for instance - may have kicked more goals than Pratt, but no one equalled his strike rate, and it is at least arguable to suggest that no one rivalled him as an all round player. He was a vital member of South Melbourne's 1933 premiership team, and it is arguable that his injury on the eve of the 1935 grand final, which forced him out of the game, cost the club another flag.
In 1939, Pratt crossed to VFA club Coburg where, two years later, he established an Association record by kicking 183 goals for the season. (The record was later eclipsed by another former VFL star, Ron Todd, who had moved from Collingwood to Williamstown.) In a game against Sandringham in 1941, Pratt booted 22.4 out of Coburg's tally of 33.14 (212). However, on grand final day he was restricted to just four goals by Port Melbourne full back Lance Dobson as the Borough caused a boilover with their first win against Coburg since 1929.
Bob Pratt returned to South Melbourne in 1946, but after booting two goals in his comeback match against Carlton he was seriously injured, and never played again. Erstwhile team mate Laurie Nash summed up the incomparable Pratt style by saying, "He was the greatest high mark I have ever seen. How he didn't kill himself in some of his marking efforts I will never know" (see footnote 1).
Hardly surprisingly, Bob Pratt features in both the Sydney/South Melbourne and Coburg 'Teams of the Century'.
Career highlights
For the League
Leading goalkicker 1933â€"1935
Equal most goals in a season of all time
AFL Hall of Fame Legend
For South Melbourne
All time leading goalkicker
Season's leading goalkicking 1932â€"1936 and 1939
Team of the Century member
Goodes.
Paul Kelly...Just need to hope that Ringo doesn't take my next pick. :)
I will select Peter Bedford and Tony Morwood
Peter Bedford
A greatly talented centre or half-forward, Peter Bedford played 178 games and kicked 325 goals for the Swans from 1968 to 1976. Captain of the Club from 1973 to 1976, he also won the Best and Fairest award five times â€" in 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973 and 1975. In 1970, the season in which he was instrumental in helping South Melbourne reach its first finals series for 25 years, he was also the Brownlow Medallist, accepting football’s highest individual honour at the first televised Brownlow Medal dinner. The Club’s leading goalkicker in 1971, 1972 and 1973 was named as ruck-rover in the Swans Team Of The Century, and in 1999 was inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame.
Peter Bedford
1968-1976 178 games 325 goals
1970 Brownlow Medal
Captain 1973-1976
Best & Fairest 1969, 1970, 1971, 1973, 1975
Leading Goalkicker 1971, 1972, 1973
Swans Team Of The Century
Tony Morwood
One of the finest half-forwards to have represented the Club, Tony Morwood was among the Swans’ best in most of his 229 games. His brilliant high marking and extreme agility on the ground were complemented with sheer courage. His hallmark style was to throw his body into the thickest of packs with apparent disregard for his own safety. This, together with his relentless hard running, made it virtually impossible for opposition teams to match up on him. Given the distance he covered during the course of a game, it is remarkable that over his long career he scored, on average, nearly two goals a game, leading the Club’s goalkicking in 1979 and 1982, and finishing with a career total of 397. Tony was selected on a half-forward flank in the Swans Team of the Century.
Tony Morwood
1978-1989
229 games
397 goals
Leading goalkicker 1979, 1982
Swans Team of the Century
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss ___
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Peter Bedford; Tim Watson; Tony Morwood; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Emergencies: Robert Walls; Kevin Sheedy;
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Laurie Nash.
• TFL/TSL Hall of Fame member (Legend status)
• Tasmania Team of the Century member (CHB)
• Camberwell Team of the Century member (VFA, CHF)
• South Melbourne/Sydney Team of the Century member (CHF)
• Victoria Team of the Century member (CHF)
• A record 18 Goals in a State match
• 400 goals in 4 seasons with Camberwell
• AFL Hall of Fame member
Capable of playing short or tall, forward or back, Nash was one of the finest players of his day. Gifted with exhilarating pace, excellent ball handling and remarkable aerial skills for his height. Nash was a man who was seldom defeated.
QuoteNash was a superbly fit athlete who never smoked, drank rarely, and dedicated himself to a punishing exercise regime; something rare in 1930s sports circles
QuoteNash was asked why he never won a Brownlow Medal (the award for the Best and Fairest player in the VFL). He replied, "I was never the best and fairest but I reckon I might have been the worst and dirtiest. I played it hard and tough."
QuoteIf self-confidence is the primary fuel on which most sporting champions run then Laurie Nash's many accomplishments are easy to explain. When asked who was the greatest footballer he had ever seen Nash famously replied "I see him in the mirror every morning when I shave".
QuoteLegendary Richmond Football Club player and coach Jack Dyer asserted that Nash was "Inch for inch, pound for pound, the greatest player in the history of Australian Rules"
QuoteChampion Collingwood goalsneak Gordon Coventry opined that Nash would have been the most prolific full forward of all time had he been stationed permanently at the goalfront.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Doug Wade
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Dale Weightman, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Luckily Ringo didn't take him, his ability to play tall/small forward/back makes him the perfect bench player. :)
Ron Clegg
FB: Albert Chadwick, Jack Regan, Vic Thorp
HB: Verdun Howell, Paul Roos, Ron Clegg
C: George Moloney, __ , James Hird
HF: Garry Wilson, Wayne Carey, Craig Bradley
FF: Dick Lee, Jason Dunstall, Darryl Baldock
R: Roy Wright, Greg Williams, Gary Ablett Jr
I/C: Albert Thurgood, Les Foote, Jim Stynes, Adam Goodes
Quote from: Sid on November 04, 2012, 09:54:20 PM
Luckily Ringo didn't take him, his ability to play tall/small forward/back makes him the perfect bench player. :)
Coin fell the wrong way between Nash and Morwood.
i'll take
Herbie matthews
Recruited from Fairfield, Herbie Matthews made his South Melbourne debut in 1932 and went on to become one of the key members of the club's famous 'foreign legion' sides. Quick, tough and exquisitely skilled, he played mostly as a wingman during the early part of his career, but later excelled as a centreman, rover and half forward as well. Despite standing only 175cm in height, he was a brilliant high mark. He played in South's winning grand final team of 1933 against Richmond, as well as in the losing teams of 1934-5-6. In the 1940 Brownlow Medal count he famously featured in a perfect tie for first place with Collingwood's Des Fothergill, as a result of which both players received cheap replica Medals, with the real one being retained by the league. Matthews polled well in the Brownlow on several other occasions, finishing second in 1937 and 1941, and third in 1936.
A five time winner of the Bloods' best and fairest award, Matthews captained the side from 1938 to 1945. In 1939 he also served as coach. His 191 game, 71 goal VFL career came to an end with the famous 'Bloodbath grand final' of 1945, during which he was one of ten players reported. His offence? Throwing the ball away after a free kick was awarded against him, for which he received a reprimand. Much more distressingly, however, South Melbourne lost the match to Carlton by 28 points.
In 1946, Matthews was appointed captain-coach of VFA club Oakleigh. In his two seasons in the role he led the Purple and Golds to ninth and eighth place finishes in what was at the time a twelve team competition.
Nine years after leaving South, Herbie Matthews returned there as the club's senior coach, but in four years in charge he was never able to get the team above ninth place on the ladder.
When the official Sydney/South Melbourne 'Team of the Century' was announced in August 2003, Matthews was selected as a wingman.
Career highlights
Brownlow Medal 1940
2nd Brownlow Medal 1937, 1941
3rd Brownlow Medal 1936 (equal)
South MelbourneBest and Fairest 1936, 1937, 1939, 1940, 1943
South Melbourne captain 1938â€"45
South Melbourne/Sydney Swans Team of the Century
Represented Victoria (4 games, 1 goal)
Positional need. Dennis Carroll
Dennis Carroll (born 7 November 1960) is a former Australian rules footballer who played with the Sydney Swans in the Victorian Football League (VFL).
From Ganmain, a small town outside of Wagga Wagga, New South Wales, Carroll came from a football family. Carroll's father Laurie (St Kilda Football Club) and uncle Tom (Carlton Football Club) also played in the VFL.[1]
Carroll was recruited by the Swans in the VFL via a zoning rule, which enabled the Swans to recruit players from New South Wales. His first season was playing out of the Lake Oval in Melbourne in 1981, before moving with the Swans permanently to Sydney.
Carroll, a back flanker, became known as one of the finest kicks in the VFL, with the ability to dispose of the ball equally well on either foot. As an experienced campaigner and local product, Carroll was selected to captain the Sydney Swans in the Australian Football League, an honour which he held for seven seasons between 1986 and 1992, during some of the club's darkest days and the brink of extinction. He represented both Victoria and New South Wales at State of Origin level.
Carroll retired from the AFL in 1993. During his career he totalled 219 games for the Swans and was named on the Swans team of the century.[2] The award for the most improved player at the Sydney Swans, the Dennis Carroll Award is named in his honour.[3] The Sydney Cricket Ground has named a room the Kippax/Carroll room in honour of Dennis Carroll and cricketer Alan Kippax.[4]
After retiring in 1993, Dennis spent four years as Sydney reserves coach and was later the Swans' match committee chairman.
well my pick for the bulldogs and no surprises here
Ted Whitten
Few footballers have given as much to the game as Edward James Whitten. First as a player, in 321 games for Footscray and 29 for his beloved 'Big V', but perhaps even more significantly in the quarter of a century which elapsed between his retirement as a player and his death in 1995, as one of Australian football's few genuine living icons.
However, it was his achievements as a player which constituted the seed-bed out of which such legendary status grew. After being rejected by Collingwood (in whose zone he resided) in 1950, on the grounds that he lacked bulk, Whitten was free to turn out with his boyhood heroes at the Western Oval. His debut in 1951 has gone down in football folklore. Opposed by renowned hard man Don 'Mopsy' Fraser of Richmond the young Whitten politely offered his hand prior to the opening bounce only to receive a sharp kick in the ankles in return. Undeterred, Whitten goaled after marking early in the first term, an act of insolence which did not go down at all well with 'Mopsy', whose retaliation this time was even more pronounced - suffice to say that Whitten had much to reflect upon that night as he lay in his hospital bed!
E.J. Whitten was nothing if not a quick learner. He soon realised that the best way to achieve success in the sport he loved was to intimidate rather than be intimidated, and if 90% of this was bluster it nevertheless could not mask the fact that he was also a supremely gifted - and tough - exponent of the game.
Aside from participating in Footscray's famous 1954 premiership win, Whitten did not enjoy much success at club level during his career. (This included a disastrous 1975 season spent coaching 1st division VFA club Williamstown. The Seagulls managed just four wins from 14 home and away matches, which consigned them to last place and relegation to second division.) His volatile personality and fondness for back-chatting meant that he seldom fared well with the umpires when it came to Brownlow votes: equal third, half a dozen votes off the pace, in 1959 was his best effort. This perhaps in part explains his excessive partiality for interstate football - a predilection all the more remarkable when you bear in mind that many Victorians at the time regarded the interstate arena as redundant given the VFL's unarguable supremacy. Whitten, however, liked nothing better than to remind the other states of that supremacy, a feat he achieved in 27 of the 29 interstate matches he played. So fanatical was Whitten's devotion to interstate football, both during and after his playing career, that to many his name is synonymous with the big white V, an emblem tantamount to the Holy Grail to many South Australian, Western Australian and Tasmanian footballers of the twentieth century.
An emblem which, sadly, was probably consigned to posterity at more or less the same time as the mortal remains of Edward James Whitten. Both the emblem and the man played significant roles in the history of the greatest sport on earth, however, and as such deserve to be feted and acclaimed as long as the sport is played.
Career highlights
Official Legend of the Australian Football Hall of Fame
Captain of the AFL Team of the Century
Footscray captain, 1957â€"1970
Club champion, 1954, 1957, 1958, 1959, 1961
Footscray premiership side, 1954
Gary Dempsey... I don't need another ruck but he is one of the best and I can't leave him.
Can't ignore Scott West.
Can not ignore Doug Hawkins to complete my mid field
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Dick Grigg ______ Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss; Doug Hawkins
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Peter Bedford; Tim Watson; Tony Morwood; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Emergencies: Robert Walls; Kevin Sheedy;
Charlie Sutton and Chris Grant
To complete my team I select Wally Donald
Wally Donald (27 May 1927 â€" 8 November 2003) was recruited by Footscray Football Club (now Western Bulldogs) in the Victorian Football League, now Australian Football League, in 1946 from Braybrook. He played only one senior game that year, but from 1947 to 1957 he was a fixture in the Footscray team, missing only a total of seven games. By 1949, Donald was established as one of the best defenders in the league, and in 1950 he represented Victoria during the Brisbane Carnival. Donald even did fairly well in the Brownlow Medal that year, polling a total of nine votes out of a career total of 27.
His unique understanding with full-back Herb Henderson, made for an almost impassable backline, whose record of conceding only 959 points in the 1953 home-and-away season stands as the best defence by any team since 1920. He was a member of Footscray's 1954 premiership team (playing his landmark 150th game in the Grand Final), and was chosen as a member of the Bulldogs Team of the Century in 2000.
Donald played a total of 205 games for one goal â€" curiously kicked in the “National Day Round†of the 1952 season,[1] when a depleted Footscray (its stars playing at the MCG for Victoria) was beaten by St Kilda on a very muddy ground at Yallourn.[2][3][4] He is the only player to have two separate sequences of 100 games without a goal: the Yallourn game was his 102nd.
Donald won Footscray’s Best and Fairest in 1949 and was runner-up in 1952, 1953 and 1954. He retired in 1958 after being dropped from the senior side after two games.
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Wally Donald: Dick Grigg; Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss; Doug Hawkins
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Peter Bedford; Tim Watson; Tony Morwood; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Emergencies: Robert Walls; Kevin Sheedy;
Sorry this took so long guys.
Brad Johnson.
364 games, 3 B&Fs, 6 AAs.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Laurie Nash, Doug Wade
EMG: Dale Weightman, Paul Kelly
Tony Liberatore
i'll take Allan Hopkins
Footscray's first Brownlow Medallist, albeit only retrospectively, Alan Hopkins also finished as a runner-up in the award on two occasions, and fourth once.
Hopkins began with the Tricolours in 1923, when they were still members of the VFA, and was a prominent member of premiership teams in his first two seasons in senior football. In 1924 he played in the famous Footscray side which defeated Essendon for the championship of Victoria.
Notoriously ungainly of gait, and rather slow for a centreman or on-baller, Hopkins was nevertheless devastatingly effective, and opponents who underestimated him were quickly made to look like mugs. A regular, and almost invariably successful, Big V representative (20 appearances), at the 1930 Adelaide carnival he was voted player of the series. Somewhat surprisingly, given that he was often seen to be carrying the load for many of his less talented team mates, Hopkins only won Footscray's top player award once.
After 151 VFL games for Footscray between 1924 and 1934 Hopkins made the short move to Yarraville, where he was appointed captain-coach for the 1935 season. It was a stunningly successful appointment as the Villains reached their first ever VFA grand final, beating Camberwell by nine points after a topsy-turvy tussle. Hopkins' form as a player was consistently good all year, and he finished runner-up in the Recorder Cup.
After three seasons away from the game, Hopkins returned to Yarraville in 1939 for one last stint as a player. Despite being one of the oldest players in the VFA, he showed that he had lost none of his class and poise.
Career highlights
Playing career:
Footscray 1925â€"1934 (Games: 151 Goals: 205)
Player honors:
Footscray 151 games, 187 goals
Footscray captain 1926, 1929
Footscray captain-coach 1930
Footscray best and fairest 1931
Footscray leading goalkicker 1925, 1926
"Champion of Australia" 1930
Victorian representative 17 matches
Coaching record:
Footscray 1930 (18 games, 4 wins 4, 14 losses)
For the first of the additional selections I will select another Collingwood player Jock McHale
McHale joined Coburg, at the time a junior club, and came to notice with his consistency, which led to an invitation to play at Collingwood. McHale made his league debut in 1903 for the black and white, playing as a half-back before moving into the centre. Durability was the cornerstone of his reputation as a player â€" he set a VFL record by playing 191 games consecutively between 1906 and 1917. This record was not beaten until 1943. He served as captain-coach from 1912â€"1913 and as a playing coach from 1914 up to the 1917 premiership, his second premiership after being part of the 1910 premiership side. McHale played a handful of matches in 1918 and 1920, but from 1918 to 1949 he made his name as the most successful coach in VFL/AFL history, deeds for which he is best remembered. As a player, McHale played 261 games and kicked 18 goals, as well as representing Victoria.
Career Highlights:
Collingwood premiership player 1910
Collingwood premiership playing coach 1917
Collingwood premiership coach
1919, 1927, 1928, 1929, 1930, 1935, 1936
Australian Football Hall of Fame, "Legend"
Collingwood Team of the Century, coach
Collingwood captain 1912â€"1913
Team Structure: (Subject to final re arrangement)
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Wally Donald: Dick Grigg; Nathan Buckley
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss; Doug Hawkins
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Peter Bedford; Tim Watson; Tony Morwood; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Emergencies: Robert Walls; Kevin Sheedy; Jock McHale
The last thing I need but he is one of the best players of all time so Barrie Robran it is.
With Sid skipped it comes to me. And I might welcome a old friend from my All Time Eras Team back to help my backline a bit
Walter Scott
Walter Scott was one of South Australia's finest ever defenders and arguably the most illustrious name in the history of the Norwood Football Club. His abilities were evident right from the start of his League career in 1920 when, in a Norwood team that was good enough to play off for the premiership, he won the club's best and fairest award.
The following season saw Scott (known affectionately as 'Wat' or 'Wacka') make the first of what would end up being an Australian record 38 consecutive interstate appearances. He was also runner up in the Magarey Medal despite receiving the same number of votes as the winner,South Adelaide's Dan Moriarty. [see footnote 1] Consolation was later to arrive in the shape of the 1924 and 1930 Medals.
Along with Dan Moriarty and Jack Hamilton ( who was later replaced by Jim Handby), Walter Scott completed South Australia's most celebrated interstate half back line. Normally placed on a flank, with Moriarty in the middle, Scott was arguably the most defensively-minded member of the unit. A strong, safe mark when in front position, he was also a redoubtable spoiler from behind, with uncanny judgement of the flight of the ball the key to both skills. Sound judgement was also a major element in Scott's prowess as a ground player, and he shared with the likes of Bruce Doull, Guy McKenna, Frank Jenkins and Kevin Murray the quintessential defender's capacity for seldom lowering his colours in a one on one contest.
A club record (shared with Michael Taylor) six times winner of the Norwood best and fairest award Walter Scott's career effectively ended after he sustained a serious knee injury in the last minor round game of 1930 against Port Adelaide. He did later play 2 further games, taking his final tally to 174, but all this did was prove to him that his knee was genuinely 'gone'. It is perhaps no coincidence that the Redlegs, who had won four premierships and contested seven grand finals during Scott's eleven year career, would have to wait another eleven years for their next flag.
During the 1930s, Walter Scott undertook coaching stints at Norwood, West Adelaide, Glenelg and Sturt, but failed to lift any of these teams above 3rd place on the ladder. As a player, however, there have been few better.
Woah didn't realise that Boomz had picked... :o
Sorry guys.
Was a tight call between a second ruckman and this guy but ultimately not going to overlook Ken Farmer.
well i'm going with
Russell Ebert
Four times a winner of South Australia's most prestigious individual football award, the Magarey Medal, Russell Ebert's solo achievements belied the fact that he was, above all else, a quintessential team man. Like his contemporary, Barrie Robran, frequently regarded as Ebert's chief rival for the unofficial title of South Australia?? greatest ever footballer, Russell Ebert off the field was shy and unassuming, preferring - if the cliché can be allowed - to "Let his football do the talking"
And how loquacious that football was! Quite simply, Russell Ebert probably came as close as any player in history to exhibiting complete mastery over all the essential skills of the game. On the attacking side he was a superb mark, handled the ball brilliantly in all conditions, and typically disposed of it, whether by foot or by hand, with pinpoint accuracy. However, it was his defensive qualities which really marked Ebert out from the herd; unlike many acknowledged champion players Ebert excelled in performing the small, often unnoticed, ostensibly ignominious tasks that are so vital to a winning performance - tasks like shepherding, smothering, checking, tackling, spoiling which are the traditional function of the football journeyman rather than the superstar.
And "Superstar"- an admittedly much over-used term - is exactly what Russell Ebert was.
Between 1968 and 1985 he played a total of 417 games of league football, all but 25 of them with Port Adelaide. (The others came during a single season stint with North Melbourne in 1979.) He also represented South Australia 29 times. In addition to his Magarey Medal wins in 1971, 1974, 1976 and 1980 he was Port's best and fairest player on no fewer than half a dozen occasions. He had the satisfaction in 1977 of captaining the Magpies to their first premiership in twelve years, and also played in the premiership teams of 1980 and 1981. After the 1981 grand final victory over Glenelg, he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield. Mere statistics can only hint at the true genius that was Russell Ebert, however.
As a coach, Ebert enjoyed rather less success, but his accomplishments were by no means negligible. He steered Port Adelaide to the 1984 grand final, for instance, and masterminded South Australia's state of origin victories over Western Australia in 1996 and 1998.
Career highlights
Magarey Medal 1971, 1974, 1976, 1980
Port Adelaide best and fairest 1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1981
Port Adelaide leading goalkicker 1968
Port Adelaide captain 1974-1978, 1983-1985
Port Adelaide premierships 1977, 1980, 1981
Quote from: BratPack on November 14, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
With Sid skipped it comes to me. And I might welcome a old friend from my All Time Eras Team back to help my backline a bit
Walter Scott
Walter Scott was one of South Australia's finest ever defenders and arguably the most illustrious name in the history of the Norwood Football Club. His abilities were evident right from the start of his League career in 1920 when, in a Norwood team that was good enough to play off for the premiership, he won the club's best and fairest award.
The following season saw Scott (known affectionately as 'Wat' or 'Wacka') make the first of what would end up being an Australian record 38 consecutive interstate appearances. He was also runner up in the Magarey Medal despite receiving the same number of votes as the winner,South Adelaide's Dan Moriarty. [see footnote 1] Consolation was later to arrive in the shape of the 1924 and 1930 Medals.
Along with Dan Moriarty and Jack Hamilton ( who was later replaced by Jim Handby), Walter Scott completed South Australia's most celebrated interstate half back line. Normally placed on a flank, with Moriarty in the middle, Scott was arguably the most defensively-minded member of the unit. A strong, safe mark when in front position, he was also a redoubtable spoiler from behind, with uncanny judgement of the flight of the ball the key to both skills. Sound judgement was also a major element in Scott's prowess as a ground player, and he shared with the likes of Bruce Doull, Guy McKenna, Frank Jenkins and Kevin Murray the quintessential defender's capacity for seldom lowering his colours in a one on one contest.
A club record (shared with Michael Taylor) six times winner of the Norwood best and fairest award Walter Scott's career effectively ended after he sustained a serious knee injury in the last minor round game of 1930 against Port Adelaide. He did later play 2 further games, taking his final tally to 174, but all this did was prove to him that his knee was genuinely 'gone'. It is perhaps no coincidence that the Redlegs, who had won four premierships and contested seven grand finals during Scott's eleven year career, would have to wait another eleven years for their next flag.
During the 1930s, Walter Scott undertook coaching stints at Norwood, West Adelaide, Glenelg and Sturt, but failed to lift any of these teams above 3rd place on the ladder. As a player, however, there have been few better.
Cheers for the write up BP. Whilst I love Norwood almost as much as my hawks Im not quite as aware of our history so always good to learn abit about our history and our legends of the game.
Quote from: DazBurg on November 14, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
well i'm going with
Russell Ebert
Four times a winner of South Australia's most prestigious individual football award, the Magarey Medal, Russell Ebert's solo achievements belied the fact that he was, above all else, a quintessential team man. Like his contemporary, Barrie Robran, frequently regarded as Ebert's chief rival for the unofficial title of South Australia?? greatest ever footballer, Russell Ebert off the field was shy and unassuming, preferring - if the cliché can be allowed - to "Let his football do the talking"
And how loquacious that football was! Quite simply, Russell Ebert probably came as close as any player in history to exhibiting complete mastery over all the essential skills of the game. On the attacking side he was a superb mark, handled the ball brilliantly in all conditions, and typically disposed of it, whether by foot or by hand, with pinpoint accuracy. However, it was his defensive qualities which really marked Ebert out from the herd; unlike many acknowledged champion players Ebert excelled in performing the small, often unnoticed, ostensibly ignominious tasks that are so vital to a winning performance - tasks like shepherding, smothering, checking, tackling, spoiling which are the traditional function of the football journeyman rather than the superstar.
And "Superstar"- an admittedly much over-used term - is exactly what Russell Ebert was.
Between 1968 and 1985 he played a total of 417 games of league football, all but 25 of them with Port Adelaide. (The others came during a single season stint with North Melbourne in 1979.) He also represented South Australia 29 times. In addition to his Magarey Medal wins in 1971, 1974, 1976 and 1980 he was Port's best and fairest player on no fewer than half a dozen occasions. He had the satisfaction in 1977 of captaining the Magpies to their first premiership in twelve years, and also played in the premiership teams of 1980 and 1981. After the 1981 grand final victory over Glenelg, he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield. Mere statistics can only hint at the true genius that was Russell Ebert, however.
As a coach, Ebert enjoyed rather less success, but his accomplishments were by no means negligible. He steered Port Adelaide to the 1984 grand final, for instance, and masterminded South Australia's state of origin victories over Western Australia in 1996 and 1998.
Career highlights
Magarey Medal 1971, 1974, 1976, 1980
Port Adelaide best and fairest 1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1981
Port Adelaide leading goalkicker 1968
Port Adelaide captain 1974-1978, 1983-1985
Port Adelaide premierships 1977, 1980, 1981
You have another one Daz. :)
Quote from: Sid on November 14, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 14, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
well i'm going with
Russell Ebert
Four times a winner of South Australia's most prestigious individual football award, the Magarey Medal, Russell Ebert's solo achievements belied the fact that he was, above all else, a quintessential team man. Like his contemporary, Barrie Robran, frequently regarded as Ebert's chief rival for the unofficial title of South Australia?? greatest ever footballer, Russell Ebert off the field was shy and unassuming, preferring - if the cliché can be allowed - to "Let his football do the talking"
And how loquacious that football was! Quite simply, Russell Ebert probably came as close as any player in history to exhibiting complete mastery over all the essential skills of the game. On the attacking side he was a superb mark, handled the ball brilliantly in all conditions, and typically disposed of it, whether by foot or by hand, with pinpoint accuracy. However, it was his defensive qualities which really marked Ebert out from the herd; unlike many acknowledged champion players Ebert excelled in performing the small, often unnoticed, ostensibly ignominious tasks that are so vital to a winning performance - tasks like shepherding, smothering, checking, tackling, spoiling which are the traditional function of the football journeyman rather than the superstar.
And "Superstar"- an admittedly much over-used term - is exactly what Russell Ebert was.
Between 1968 and 1985 he played a total of 417 games of league football, all but 25 of them with Port Adelaide. (The others came during a single season stint with North Melbourne in 1979.) He also represented South Australia 29 times. In addition to his Magarey Medal wins in 1971, 1974, 1976 and 1980 he was Port's best and fairest player on no fewer than half a dozen occasions. He had the satisfaction in 1977 of captaining the Magpies to their first premiership in twelve years, and also played in the premiership teams of 1980 and 1981. After the 1981 grand final victory over Glenelg, he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield. Mere statistics can only hint at the true genius that was Russell Ebert, however.
As a coach, Ebert enjoyed rather less success, but his accomplishments were by no means negligible. He steered Port Adelaide to the 1984 grand final, for instance, and masterminded South Australia's state of origin victories over Western Australia in 1996 and 1998.
Career highlights
Magarey Medal 1971, 1974, 1976, 1980
Port Adelaide best and fairest 1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1981
Port Adelaide leading goalkicker 1968
Port Adelaide captain 1974-1978, 1983-1985
Port Adelaide premierships 1977, 1980, 1981
You have another one Daz. :)
Opps my bad...lol...do it now
Quote from: DazBurg on November 14, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Opps my bad...lol...do it now
Haha no problem mate. At least it didn't take you 24 hours to realise. :-[
Quote from: DazBurg on November 14, 2012, 09:08:21 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 14, 2012, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 14, 2012, 08:26:52 PM
well i'm going with
Russell Ebert
Four times a winner of South Australia's most prestigious individual football award, the Magarey Medal, Russell Ebert's solo achievements belied the fact that he was, above all else, a quintessential team man. Like his contemporary, Barrie Robran, frequently regarded as Ebert's chief rival for the unofficial title of South Australia?? greatest ever footballer, Russell Ebert off the field was shy and unassuming, preferring - if the cliché can be allowed - to "Let his football do the talking"
And how loquacious that football was! Quite simply, Russell Ebert probably came as close as any player in history to exhibiting complete mastery over all the essential skills of the game. On the attacking side he was a superb mark, handled the ball brilliantly in all conditions, and typically disposed of it, whether by foot or by hand, with pinpoint accuracy. However, it was his defensive qualities which really marked Ebert out from the herd; unlike many acknowledged champion players Ebert excelled in performing the small, often unnoticed, ostensibly ignominious tasks that are so vital to a winning performance - tasks like shepherding, smothering, checking, tackling, spoiling which are the traditional function of the football journeyman rather than the superstar.
And "Superstar"- an admittedly much over-used term - is exactly what Russell Ebert was.
Between 1968 and 1985 he played a total of 417 games of league football, all but 25 of them with Port Adelaide. (The others came during a single season stint with North Melbourne in 1979.) He also represented South Australia 29 times. In addition to his Magarey Medal wins in 1971, 1974, 1976 and 1980 he was Port's best and fairest player on no fewer than half a dozen occasions. He had the satisfaction in 1977 of captaining the Magpies to their first premiership in twelve years, and also played in the premiership teams of 1980 and 1981. After the 1981 grand final victory over Glenelg, he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield. Mere statistics can only hint at the true genius that was Russell Ebert, however.
As a coach, Ebert enjoyed rather less success, but his accomplishments were by no means negligible. He steered Port Adelaide to the 1984 grand final, for instance, and masterminded South Australia's state of origin victories over Western Australia in 1996 and 1998.
Career highlights
Magarey Medal 1971, 1974, 1976, 1980
Port Adelaide best and fairest 1971, 1972, 1974, 1976, 1977, 1981
Port Adelaide leading goalkicker 1968
Port Adelaide captain 1974-1978, 1983-1985
Port Adelaide premierships 1977, 1980, 1981
You have another one Daz. :)
Opps my bad...lol...do it now
ok for 2nd one i pick
Bill Walker
Watching recordings of matches played as long ago as the 1960s only a few players immediately catch the eye as possessing the attributes necessary for success in modern day, professional football. One such player is Bill Walker, who combined an uncanny sense of knowing where the ball was, and how to get it, with a rare, fastidious intelligence in its disposal (albeit that, when kicking, he tended to favour either the drop kick or the stab pass, a ??railty??which a twenty-first century coaching team would no doubt waste little time in eradicating).
Walker, who was born at Huntley in New Zealand, made his debut with Swans in 1961 and over the course of the next sixteen seasons would go on to play a record 305 games for the club. His arrival at Bassendean coincided with that of Haydn Bunton junior, who, in his first three years in Western Australian football, would be responsible for masterminding the club?? first three premierships. Bunton also shared the roving duties with Walker, who kicked 5.5 in Swans??debut premiership win in 1961, and was an integral member of the side as it established a new benchmark for football in the state.
Ultimately, Swan Districts??pre-eminence could not last, but Walker remained at the forefront of the game throughout his career. Sandover Medallist three years in a row from 1965 to 1967, he was later awarded a fourth Medal (that of 1970) as part of the Westar Rules hierarchy?? decision, in 1997, to ape the VFL by bestowing retrospective Medals on those players who had lost only on countback, or on the casting vote of the league president. Bill Walker thus shares with Russell Ebert the record of being the only players to have won four separate major state awards in the same competition.
When at the height of his prowess, between 1965 and 1970, it would be hard to dispute the contention that Walker was the finest player in the land. Apart from his four Sandovers, he finished second and fifth in the other two seasons, averaging 19.3 votes per year; he was Swan Districts??club champion every year but one; and in interstate games (of which he played 21) he was almost invariably named in Western Australia?? best players, winning a Simpson Medal against South Australia at Subiaco in 1967.
Often mentioned in the same breath as another superlative Western Australian rover, Barry Cable, Walker shared many of the same attributes, but had an edge in pace, which arguably made him the more damaging player. Not surprisingly, Bill Walker was chosen as first rover in the official Swan Districts ??eam of the Century??
He continued to contribute immensely to the club he loved long after his retirement as a player, most notably between 1983 and part way through 1995 when he served as president.
Career highlights
Swan Districts leading goalkicker 1961
Swan Districts premiership side 1961, 1962, 1963
Sandover Medal 1965, 1966, 1967, 1970
Swan Districts best and fairest 1965, 1966, 1968, 1969, 1970
Simpson Medal 1967 (interstate)
Australian Football World Tour 1968
All-Australian team 1969
Swan Districts captain 1969â€"75
WAFL life member 1985
Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 1996
West Australian Football Hall of Fame inductee 2004
Continuing to solidify my backline. I'll take Glen Jakovich
Glen Jakovich (born 24 March 1973) is a former Australian rules footballer for the West Coast Eagles.
Glen was recruited from South Fremantle in Western Australia and debuted in 1991 and played most of his career at the Centre Half Back position, in the number 27 gernsey. He was selected in that position in the All Australian team of 1994 and 1995.
Glen was notable for his duels with rival Centre Half Forward, North Melbourne Football Club's Wayne Carey. Carey was considered to be one of the best of all time, and the contests between these two were highly anticipated events on the football calendar.
After undergoing a knee reconstruction in 1996 he was unable to recapture his superlative form of the previous three years. Although still able to win his club's best and fairest award in 2000, he was not the imposing player of the past. At his peak he was rated by many as one of the very best players in the competition.
His brother Allen Jakovich was a full-forward for the Melbourne Football Club. During their career, the two brothers lined up against each other on more than one occasion.
Much taller than his brother at 193 cm, but at 100 kg, both brothers were similarly large in stature.
Glen Jakovich retired from football in 2004.
Jakovich now is an Expert Commentator on Fox Sports and 882 6PR.
In 2008 he was inducted into the AFL Hall of Fame.
Jakovich is married to Emily and they have three children. He is a second generation Australian of Croatian heritage.
Need somebody to back Dyer up, Peter Carey.
Denis Marshall
Sorry guys at a conference in Melbourne at the moment. Will put my 2 picks up later tonight if that is ok. Should be around 10:00pm. by the time I finish the research, Know it is outside time frame but only just logged on to check this morning and need to be in seession by 8:00am.
Quote from: Ringo on November 16, 2012, 08:03:45 AM
Sorry guys at a conference in Melbourne at the moment. Will put my 2 picks up later tonight if that is ok. Should be around 10:00pm. by the time I finish the research, Know it is outside time frame but only just logged on to check this morning and need to be in seession by 8:00am.
It's cool Ringo. I'll give you till tomorrow morning when I log on. :P
All good Ringo. :)
I select John Murphy and Bert Deacon
Interesting....
Will do full wtite ups when I get back toi Brissie but was looking for positional players for team balance.
Why did I think it was my pick after Ringo's? :-[
Quote from: BratPack on November 17, 2012, 11:32:57 AM
Why did I think it was my pick after Ringo's? :-[
was just about to post saying it was boomzie';s pick not yours
Don't think he's been taken... Dan Moriarty.
Might pick up my 3rd ruckman, Tom Leahy.
Midfield depth pick. Steve Marsh
still haven';t done my pick can skip if you wish i seriously don't have the motivation at the moment to look into research after today
been to a funeral and such
Well I'll take my pick cause I'm pretty sure Daz has no interest in him. It's the pick anyone who knows me knew was coming.
"The Velvet Sledgehammer" Matthew Lloyd
And now my final team
B George "Jocka" Todd , Stephen Silvagni, Charlie Sutton
HB Glen Jakovich, Ross Glendinning , Walter Scott
C Robert Flower , Barry Cable , Robert Harvey
HF Chris Grant, Royce Hart , Stephen Kernahan
F Peter Hudson, John Coleman, Matthew Lloyd
Foll Graham "Polly" Farmer, Haydn Bunton Sr, Bob Skilton
Int Len Thompson, Matthew Richardson, Steve Marsh, Darren Millane
Emer Kevin "Cowboy" Neale, Garry Lyon, Terry Daniher
Reserves Dennis Carroll, Simon Black, Gary Buckenara
To finish the team I'll take Horrie Gorringe.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Ken Farmer, Peter Carey
EMG: Doug Wade, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Reserves: Dale Weightman, Tom Leahy, Horrie Gorringe
Quote from: Sid on November 21, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
To finish the team I'll take Horrie Gorringe.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Ken Farmer, Peter Carey
EMG: Doug Wade, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Reserves: Dale Weightman, Tom Leahy, Horrie Gorringe
ok i'm confused i understand i got skipped but on the front page it says BP is after me ??
i'll go with
Lindsey Head
Triple Magarey Medallist Lindsay Head was the first South Australian player to notch up 300 games. He was also, arguably, one of the code’s most skilful and intelligent players. Not that he lacked either courage or competitiveness - players simply do not rack up the number of decisive, clean possessions Head repeatedly managed if they do not boast such qualities; it was just that he seemed to perform almost every action on the football field with such smooth panache and effortless artistry that at times it was as though he was on a different plane from everyone else. That said, he could never truly be called a two-sided player, preferring to resort to a variation of the check side kick when caught on the wrong foot; however, such was Head’s artistry and dedication to practice that he was able to perform this kick with exquisite accuracy time and time again.
An ardent traditionalist, Head refused numerous offers to move to Victoria to play. His loyalty to West Torrens is all the more remarkable when you consider that, after playing in a premiership side in only his second ever season, Head never again went even remotely close to a flag. On the personal front, however, he did win the club best and fairest award on a remarkable eight occasions, kicked more than 500 career goals, and represented South Australia no fewer than 37 times. Chosen as an All Australian in 1956, he also won the Advertiser Trophy on three occasions, the News-Ampol Trophy twice, and was voted ADS7 Footballer of the Year in 1962.
Career highlights
West Torrens premiership player 1953
West Torrens leading goalkicker 1954
Magarey Medal 1955, 1958, 1963
West Torrens best and fairest 1955â€"56, 1958â€"59, 1962â€"63, 1966â€"67
All-Australian team 1956
West Torrens life member 1962
West Torrens president 1984â€"88
West Torrens chairman 1986â€"88
SANFL player life member
Australian Football Hall of Fame inaugural inductee 1996
South Australian Football Hall of Fame inaugural inductee 2002
Woodville-West Torrens life member
Woodville-West Torrens life governor
and
Len Fitzgerald
The Australian football landscape of half a century ago was considerably different to that of today. In particular, there was no equivalent of the Australian Football League. While the AFL has in recent years been systematically manufacturing a "History" for itself which derives from an imaginary contiguity with the old suburban VFL, the truth is that, prior to the re-location of South Melbourne to Sydney in 1982, the VFL was a state competition pure and simple. Granted, it was by some measure the strongest state competition in Australia, and this strength had tended to magnify as more and more elite non-Victorian players entered the league. However, whereas nowadays it would be reasonable to suggest that nigh on 100% of the very best footballers in Australia ply their trade in the AFL, this was very far from being the case in the old, suburban VFL.
A classic case in point is Len Fitzgerald. His move from Victoria Park to Unley in 1951 after 96 games with Collingwood was indicative of the fact that, even to an elite player at what was then Australia's most illustrious sporting club, football was not the prime controlling influence in life. Football players did not depend for their livelihood on the game, and so when Sturt managed to secure more lucrative employment for Fitzgerald than the Magpies had been able to arrange for him in Melbourne, the result was that the balance of football power between South Australia and Victoria shifted ever so slightly in favour of the former.
If Len Fitzgerald had been a prominent player at Collingwood, he soon developed into a veritable champion with the Double Blues. After a relatively slow start to his SANFL career "Fitzie"- who took over the Sturt coaching reins midway through his debut season - gradually went from strength to strength. In 1952 he won every media award going, together with Sturt's club champion award and the first of his three Magarey Medals. The 1953 season brought interstate selection for South Australia at the Adelaide carnival, followed by inclusion in the inaugural All Australian team. The second Magarey Medal followed in 1954 but Fitzgerald declared himself more concerned by Sturt's late season loss to wooden spoon side Glenelg which cost the Double Blues a place in the finals.
Matters were rectified somewhat in 1955 as Sturt reached the preliminary final but the club's failure to honour a verbal pledge to bestow a $50 bonus upon its coach induced Fitzgerald to start an immediate search for pastures new.
The next three seasons saw Fitzgerald starring for and coaching Benalla in the powerful Ovens and Murray Football League but he returned to Sturt purely as a player in 1959 and won another Magarey as the Double Blues reached the finals for the first time since his departure.
Nagging injuries blighted Fitzgerald?? final couple of seasons in league football but nothing should mar the memory of a supremely adaptable footballer with lightning reflexes, excellent ball handling skills and, perhaps above all else, an awesome strength which was exhibited both in body on body clashes with opponents as well as when taking seemingly miraculous marks in pack situations. All told, he played a total of 125 SANFL matches for Sturt, booting 201 goals, and represented South Australia 17 times, kicking 5 goals.
As a league coach, Len Fitzgerald experienced significantly less success, steering Glenelg to fourth, sixth and last places in three seasons in charge during the 1960s.
He retained his passion for the game throughout his life, and news of his death in April 2007 saddened football followers from all over Australia and beyond.
Career highlights
Three time Sturt best and fairest
Played 20 matches for South Australia
Triple Magarey Medallist, 1952, 1954 and 1959
All Australian 1953
Inducted Australian Football Hall of Fame 1996
Inducted SANFL Hall of Fame 2002
Quote from: DazBurg on November 21, 2012, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 21, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
To finish the team I'll take Horrie Gorringe.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Ken Farmer, Peter Carey
EMG: Doug Wade, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Reserves: Dale Weightman, Tom Leahy, Horrie Gorringe
ok i'm confused i understand i got skipped but on the front page it says BP is after me ??
BP took his pick didn't he?
Quote from: Sid on November 22, 2012, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 21, 2012, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 21, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
To finish the team I'll take Horrie Gorringe.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Ken Farmer, Peter Carey
EMG: Doug Wade, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Reserves: Dale Weightman, Tom Leahy, Horrie Gorringe
ok i'm confused i understand i got skipped but on the front page it says BP is after me ??
BP took his pick didn't he?
I did. I took Lloyd
Quote from: BratPack on November 22, 2012, 11:54:09 AM
Quote from: Sid on November 22, 2012, 12:59:02 AM
Quote from: DazBurg on November 21, 2012, 08:55:57 PM
Quote from: Sid on November 21, 2012, 01:20:39 PM
To finish the team I'll take Horrie Gorringe.
B: Glelnn Archer, Geoff Southby, Reg Hickey
HB: Trevor Barker, Albert Collier, Bruce Doull
C: Keith Greig, Jack Clarke, Robert DiPierdomenico
HF: Jack Moriarty, Bernie Quinlan, Jack Mueller
F: Steven Milne, Gordon Coventry, Brad Johnson
R: Jack Dyer, Dick Reynolds, Ron Barassi
INT: Michael Tuck, Scott West, Ken Farmer, Peter Carey
EMG: Doug Wade, Paul Kelly, Laurie Nash
Reserves: Dale Weightman, Tom Leahy, Horrie Gorringe
ok i'm confused i understand i got skipped but on the front page it says BP is after me ??
BP took his pick didn't he?
I did. I took Lloyd
oh missed that sorry
Boomz skipped.
:(
Ringo up with the last pick.
With my last pick and can not see him picked Peter Knights
PETER KNIGHTS
No. 24
Position: Half back flank
Career: 1969-85
Games: 264. Goals: 201
Premierships: 1976, 78, 83. Night premierships: 1969. Finals appearances: 20
Awards: Nine-time interstate representative; 1975 Club Champion.
Noted for his spectacular and death-defying marks, Knights effectively sailed into greatness. His missed out on the 1976 Brownlow by three votes after being outed for seven games with a broken collarbone. He also missed the 1971 Grand Final through injury, but played in three subsequent premierships.
Knights predominantly played at centre half-back but had the versatility to switch to attack, heading the Hawks goalkicking in 1972 after Peter Hudson was injured. Niggling back and hamstring problems appeared to signal the end of his career in 1982, however he overcame them and went to play some of his best football.
Team:
FB: Gary Ayres; David Dench; Kelvin Moore;
HB: Wally Donald: Dick Grigg; Peter Knights
C: Todd Viney: Michael Voss; Doug Hawkins
HF: Allan Ruthven; Alex Jesaulenko; Gary Ablett Snr
FF: Norm Smith; Tony Lockett; Peter Daicos
R:Simon Madden; Ross G Smith; Kevin Bartlett
I/C: Nathan Buckley; Tim Watson; Tony Morwood; Wayne Schimmelbusch.
Emergencies: Peter Bedford; Kevin Sheedy; Jock McHale
Reserves: Robert Walls; John Murphy, Bert Deacon
Sorry guys thought my picks were all done and was away. I'll take Snowy Hamilton.
Yay we can finally have the vote to see who won! :P :)
Sorry Boomzie, I should have PMd you... :S
No problem :P also changed my pick as realised BP already picked Scott.
FB: Albert Chadwick, Jack Regan, Vic Thorp
HB: Denis Marshall, Dan Moriarty, Snowy Hamilton
C: George Moloney, Gary Ablett Jr , James Hird
HF: Adam Goodes, Wayne Carey, Barrie Robran
FF: Dick Lee, Jason Dunstall, Darryl Baldock
R: Roy Wright, Greg Williams, Tony Liberatore
I/C: Albert Thurgood, Les Foote, Gary Dempsey, Verdun Howell
Emergencies: Jim Stynes, Ron Clegg, Craig Bradley, Garry Wilson, Paul Roos
Poll is up. Probably shouldn't have started to timer seeing as I've locked voting but didn't realise until after... :S