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Title: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 11:16:54 AM
Round 1

1: Hornets - Anthony Davis
2: Bobcats - Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
3: Wizards - Bradley Beal
4: Cavaliers - Dion Waiters
5: Kings - Thomas Robinson
6: Blazers - Damian Lillard
7: Warriors - Harrison Barnes
8: Raptors - Terrence Ross
9: Pistons - Andre Drummond
10: Hornets - Austin Rivers
11: Blazers - Meyers Leonard
12: Rockets - Jeremy Lamb
13: Suns - Kendall Marshall
14: Bucks - John Henson
15: 76ers - Maurice Harkless
16: Rockets - Royce White
17: Mavericks - Tyler Zeller
18: Rockets - Terrence Jones
19: Magic - Andrew Nicholson
20: Nuggets - Evan Fournier
21: Celtics - Jared Sullinger
22: Celtics - Fab Melo
23: Hawks - John Jenkins
24: Cavaliers - Jared Cunningham
25: Grizzlies - Tony Wroten, Jr.
26: Pacers - Miles Plumlee
27: Heat - Arnett Moultrie
28: Thunder - Perry Jones III
29: Bulls - Marquis Teague
30: Warriors - Festus Ezeli


My thoughts:

MKG to Bobcats was shock
Didnt see the Cavs picking Waiters
Loving that TROB fell to Kings at #5
Barnes dropping to 7th was interesting
Suns getting Marshall is a nice replacement for Nash
Zeller to Mavs.  I like that pairing with Dirk back to PF
Sullingers medical meant he dropped - steal at 21 for Celtics
Thunder getting Jones III at #28 (hoping he was gonna drop to pick #36 for Kings)
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 11:49:58 AM
Leonard (1 of the 3 centres I hoped would drop to miami has gone at 12)

Melo was supposed to be the best centre in the draft apparently but still not picked
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 11:52:12 AM
Zeller was most ready to go centre in draft followed by Melo and Leonard.  Drummond has biggest upside
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 11:55:15 AM
i hope melo gets picked before miami get a chance cause im not interested in him not enough upside offensively when miami have Anthony and Turiaf as defensive minded centres
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 11:56:50 AM
Miami need a SG - hence the interest in Ray Allen as a FA.

Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 12:00:35 PM
no we need a centre

with the lack of centres in the league and with the multitude of centres in the draft we should be getting one of them
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 12:03:48 PM
You dont need an offensive minded centre - you have LeBron, Wade and Bosch who can score 100 points between them.  You need a centre who can clog up the defensive keyway and force tough shots.
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 12:08:47 PM
we have Turiaf for that and Anthony is our shot blocking centre
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 12:12:04 PM
So why do you need an attacking centre?  You need a SG who can hit shots to make the opposing team have to guard him.  This leaves the big 3 to 1 on 1 matchups, which is what you want. 
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 12:16:16 PM
because our centres are undersized
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 12:18:20 PM
That doesnt matter - they are there to just make shots tougher. 

Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 12:45:45 PM
but the draft with a championship team should be to address weakness at any given position then get depth to maintain championship level
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
Exactly - you have 2 x defensive centres already.  You either want prospects at SF, PF and PG or something at SG
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 01:12:52 PM
Heat go with project PF Arnett Moultrie

Edit: I say project because he will be behind Bosh in the pecking order.
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 01:29:08 PM
The Heat are trading Moultrie away for pick 45..... to Philadelphia and a future first round pick

Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 01:29:08 PM
The Heat are trading Moultrie away for pick 45..... to Philadelphia and a future first round pick

Interesting.  Will be good for 76ers and then Heat can get min salary player at 45
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 01:38:21 PM
and the first round picks are guaranteed contracts

Miami has so much money at the big 3 they can pay the minimum salary for whoever they get at the 45 pick hence the trade of their first pick
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 01:47:25 PM
It makes sense for Miami if they want to get Ray Allen - dont have to guarantee a contract and use cap space.
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
Kings pick Orlanda Johnson at 336 but word is we shipped the pick to the Pacers and that was their choice.  Not sure what we getting in return just yet - Pacers dont have another pick in the draft

Edit: Knowing the Maloofs it was prob for cash concessions
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 02:08:56 PM
lol the kings need players not cash

VALK the Kings did what you expected them to (trade player away for cash)

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

apparently Justin Hamilton will be on traded to the Heat!
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2012/6/28/3114331/2012-nba-draft-results-miami-heat

With the No. 27 pick in the 2012 NBA Draft, the Miami Heat selected Arnett Moultrie from Mississippi State. The Heat will reportedly send him to the Philadelphia 76ers.

Moultrie is an active, athletic big man who has some skills but doesn't figure to be a great defender, rebounder or bruiser at the NBA level. The Sixers will reportedly send Miami a future first-round pick and the No. 45 in this draft to take Moultrie.

according to Wikipedia we got Justin Hamilton! (Miami's Pick 27 to Philadelphia for Philadelphia's Pick 45)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_Draft
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http://www.wafb.com/story/18911399/lsus-justin-hamilton-taken-in-nba-draft-with-the-45th-pick

Hamilton finished 14th in the Southeastern Conference in scoring, ninth in rebounding, eighth in free throw percentage (78.1 percent, 107-137); ninth in blocked shots (1.3 bpg); and, second in offensive rebounds (3.3 orpg).

i reckon Miami have got themselves a worthwhile investment long term IMO
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 03:40:45 PM
The Kings need players
The Maloofs need cash

Very big difference
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 03:50:53 PM
okay sorry but your owners are really bad business people if the business is going to perform badly again then what? will they sell in a panic and make a loss?

(for the sake of the game it would be good to get rid of the Kings owners but still have worthwhile basketball people wanting to buy the Kings)
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 04:03:54 PM
The Maloofs are terrible for the Kings.  There has been interest from someone based in Asia somewhere but the Maloofs wont sell.  They pay the min salary cap every year and then wonder why we are a lottery team.

I think all the supporters of the Kings would rejoice if the Maloofs sold up and we got new owners.  Mark Cuban would be a good owner ;)
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 04:16:20 PM
Mark Cuban 8)
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Jay on June 29, 2012, 04:21:04 PM
FAB MELO!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: valkorum on June 29, 2012, 04:40:54 PM
Quote from: Jayman on June 29, 2012, 04:21:04 PM
FAB MELO!!!!!!!!

I would be more excited about Sullinger.  That being said Melo is a great replacement for KG
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Jay on June 29, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
some good talent to the celts

sullinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88nQnJTbwwo
melo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKyP3Por3xI
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Cicjose on June 29, 2012, 05:31:09 PM
so anyone not happy with their teams pickups? (Heat trading a dud for Hamilton :) )

http://www.nba.com/heat/news/heat_aquire_justin_hamilton_2012_06_29.html

MIAMI, June 29 â€" The Miami HEAT announced today that they have acquired the draft rights to center Justin Hamilton (45th overall) and a future conditional first round pick from the Philadelphia 76ers in exchange for the draft rights to forward Arnett Moultrie (27th overall).

Hamilton appeared in 96 collegiate games (81 starts) and averaged 7.9 points, 5.2 rebounds and 21.8 minutes while shooting 53.5 percent from the field and 74.1 percent from the foul line. He played one season at Louisiana State University (2011-12) after transferring from Iowa State University (2008-10).

Last season at LSU, Hamilton appeared in 33 games (32 starts) and averaged 12.9 points, 7.2 rebounds, 1.30 blocks and 30.0 minutes while shooting 49.4 percent from the field and 78.1 percent from the foul line.

He earned All-District (USBWA) First Team honors and was named to the All-SEC and NABC All-District Second Teams. He registered six 20-point games and posted four double-doubles.

As a sophomore at Iowa State University (2009-10), Hamilton shot 61.7 percent, the fourth-highest single-season percentage in school history while blocking 33 shots, second-most on the team.
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wizards/with-free-agency-coming-riley-hopeful-that-nba-champion-heat-can-get-even-better/2012/06/29/gJQAwkXoAW_story.html
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Jay on June 29, 2012, 07:39:14 PM
Jamaal Crawford????
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: Windigo on June 29, 2012, 07:53:14 PM
Pacer's got Plumlee. Pretty happy about that.

Big re bounder who should help Hibbert.
Title: Re: NBA Draft 2012
Post by: rowshow on July 06, 2012, 02:05:58 PM
very happy with T-rob

anderson looks like a decent chance to be joining us but im not 100% sold on him yet. be nice to have someone that can spread the floor though