So guys, ask Ziplock once again, for your questions, calls on players, opinions etc.!
I'm actually just making the topic now, and won't be responding much until tomoz since I'll be going to sleep soon, but I'm just getting this out there so my lovely assistant PB can get his post in so we're all ready for the onslaught of questions :P
So lets do this! Post your questions peeps :P
Woot Woot!! Let's ge this thing going Zip!! And i'll be hleping out Zip for when he isn't online. ;)
Also on this post is what questions have been asked, page-by-page, like the Detective thread (But mine will be cooler :P)
Bit of a colour code:
Font | Meaning |
Bold, Black | General Question |
Bold, Orange | Adelaide | Bold, Pink | North |
Bold, Maroon | Brisbane | Bold, Teal | Port |
Bold, Navy | Carlton | Bold, yellow | Richmond |
Bold, White | Collingwood | Bold, Red | St.Kilda |
Red | Essendon | Pink | Sydney |
Bold, Purple | Fremantle | Bold, Green | West Coast |
Bold, Blue | Geelong | Bold, Lime Green | Western Bulldogs |
Bold, Gold | Gold Coast | Green | Western Sydney |
Bold, Brown | Hawthorn | Blue | Melbourne |
THESE ARE THE PAGES WHICH THE QUESTIONS ARE ASKED ON
Page 1:Most impressive in NAB Rd 1 (whatlez)
Forward's
NRoo vs Zaha (dicey7)
Best Mid until Byes (elephants)
Page 2:Adam Goodes worth the price? (elephants)
How to set-up in the mids (elephants)
Forward Set-up, around the Rd 13 bye (whatlez)
James McDonald or
Lachie Neale (whatlez)
Scott Thompson or Scott Thompson (whatlez)
Page 3:Tommy WalshOUT, which Rd 11 bye rookie comes in? (whatlez)
Will
Steele Sidebottom play more forward, and will it help Dayne Beams (n00bsauce)
Who will play more: Magner, Couch, Nicholson (tabs)
When is Shiel returning? (tabs)
Page 4:Do you want to catch up on Hindley st?? (F.A.R.K.)
Mitch Robinson and general forward choices (Adamant)
Rory Sloane vs
Chris Judd (whatlez)
Lenny Hayes vs
Michael Barlow (whatlez)
Dane Swan vs
Scott Pendlebury (whatlez)
Most frustrating bye (whatlez)
Are the byes a problem (whatlez)
Is whatlez getting annoying (whatlez)
Page 5:Will NRoo and Leigh Montagna get back to premium scoring? (truBLUE)
Is Gary Rohan worth it? (bomberboy0618)
super awkward now if nobody sends a question. I may have to go dyl style and make fake accounts :P
Quote from: Ziplock on February 28, 2012, 11:31:01 PM
super awkward now if nobody sends a question. I may have to go dyl style and make fake accounts :P
Shouldn't be a problem, ele is online. ;D
... Who impressed you the most for rd 1 nab cup?
and he has enough questions to fill a library :P
Pick n. roo in fwds and be able to afford a mid rookie in the 130,000 range
or pick Zaharakis in fwds and get a mid rook under 100k
Hahahahaha. Great work guys. Will have questions in the future... Maybe this one.
Of these super-guns who will score the least up until the byes in your opinion(s)..?
Dane Swan
Scott Pendlebury
Gary Ablett
Marc Murphy (personal fav.)
Thanks. I know Swan and Pendles have pretty tough draws. Gazza seems a lock imo with his kind draw and team improvement. Marc is a bit of a fav. of mine and has a pretty kind draw early...
Cheers! Great idea too :)
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:34:36 PM
... Who impressed you the most for rd 1 nab cup?
well, obviously you generally use your NAB cup to suss out rooks really. In that regard, purely on their game performances, magner and hall just looked ridiculously tasty. From GWS, I really loved giles, seemed in everything, and his scores will be even higher without the modified NAB cup rules. I also liked cooyou a lot- that being said, I don't think he'll be a dominate fantasy player, but could end up being a bit of an x-factor.
Dell'Olio racking up 20+ points in less than a quarter was also pretty solid, he's been earmarked for a fair few games as well.
for midpricers, another obvious in Sloane- already touted to break out, I think he really showed he might have the stuff. Unfortunately, a lot of the boys I was looking for didn't show huge amounts, but players like Martin and Ziebell who were both naturally on my radar, looked the goods at various points. Phil Davis, while playing deep in defence also looked pretty impressive- he seemed to get into everything, and for an 18 game player showed a lot of leadership... at his price deserves a look.
Hargrave also played really well, but it's been a couple of years since he performed at a premium level- might still have a spurt considering this would have to be about his last chance, monitor him for sure.
For your premium players, I don't think you can go past pavlich. It's looking like a 100+ year for him imo, playing in his most DT friendly role. Cox, while also dominate, I still can't justify with that price tag, especially worrying considering how he dropped off in form last year, age might be getting to him.
Quote from: dicey7 on February 28, 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Pick n. roo in fwds and be able to afford a mid rookie in the 130,000 range
or pick Zaharakis in fwds and get a mid rook under 100k
n. roo, I'm not a zaha fan for several reasons- I just don't think he'll cut it this year.
who would you be looking at in that price range though? Apart from maybe wingard, most the best rookies are around or below the 100k mark.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 28, 2012, 11:34:46 PM
and he has enough questions to fill a library :P
Hahahahah apparently if you ask heaps of questions it means your smart... I'll claim that ;D
Quote from: Ziplock on February 28, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: dicey7 on February 28, 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Pick n. roo in fwds and be able to afford a mid rookie in the 130,000 range
or pick Zaharakis in fwds and get a mid rook under 100k
n. roo, I'm not a zaha fan for several reasons- I just don't think he'll cut it this year.
who would you be looking at in that price range though? Apart from maybe wingard, most the best rookies are around or below the 100k mark.
I was thinking clifton from GWS?
Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2012, 11:39:53 PM
Hahahahaha. Great work guys. Will have questions in the future... Maybe this one.
Of these super-guns who will score the least up until the byes in your opinion(s)..?
Dane Swan
Scott Pendlebury
Gary Ablett
Marc Murphy (personal fav.)
Thanks. I know Swan and Pendles have pretty tough draws. Gazza seems a lock imo with his kind draw and team improvement. Marc is a bit of a fav. of mine and has a pretty kind draw early...
Cheers! Great idea too :)
Swan and Ablett, flip a coin for these two.
actually not entirely true, I give swan closer to a 60% chance of outscoring ablett- but let me establish, I doubt he'll be outscoring by much, Ablett represents substantially more value and can definitely be used as a substitute auto captain.
I think Pendles has topped out for DT value- but I don't see him sliding, I think him and murphy will be close, with pendles edging out.
for predicted averages
Swan- 119-130 (123)
Ablett-118-125 (121)
Pendles- 113-118 (116)
Murphy- 110-118 (115)
thats my range of averages, barring injury, in the brackets are what I think they'll average :P
but I can see rockliff outscoring both pendles and murphy ;)
After reading that, I want Pav in my team
And I will keep on asking questions Zip forever just so this thread never dies haha
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
Quote from: dicey7 on February 28, 2012, 11:50:08 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on February 28, 2012, 11:46:47 PM
Quote from: dicey7 on February 28, 2012, 11:36:10 PM
Pick n. roo in fwds and be able to afford a mid rookie in the 130,000 range
or pick Zaharakis in fwds and get a mid rook under 100k
n. roo, I'm not a zaha fan for several reasons- I just don't think he'll cut it this year.
who would you be looking at in that price range though? Apart from maybe wingard, most the best rookies are around or below the 100k mark.
I was thinking clifton from GWS?
He didn't exactly dominate against WBD, but was named in sheeds projected rd 1 team. Hogan was looking pretty good in NAB- my cats friends say he should be pushing for selection.... does he slot into your salary cap?
Great thanks zip.
My gut said that Murphy was the weakest of the four...
Rocky only in 3% of teams. Less than Darren Glass at 3.4% apparently... I would like to see how he handles a tag before I pay 550k for a 21 year old.
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
Nice work PB, I'll give you a cheer for that good set-up ::)
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:53:20 PM
After reading that, I want Pav in my team
And I will keep on asking questions Zip forever just so this thread never dies haha
haha great :P
Hey Zip another question (PB) which I need to know.
I have 4 keepers in the fwds who share the rd 13 bye. Robinson is the one I want to get rid of. Who do you think I should get? Pav or Fyfe looks like my best options?
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
you could also try putting in sections like structure, player vs player etc. :P
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
Nice work PB, I'll give you a cheer for that good set-up ::)
I would say Cheers, but not sure if you are being serious or not. :P
And is the Bold/White for Collingwood visible?? That is the only one i may need to change.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 28, 2012, 11:58:32 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
you could also try putting in sections like structure, player vs player etc. :P
Ahhh, no thanks.
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:58:44 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:56:32 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 28, 2012, 11:54:04 PM
My orginal post is going to get very excessive. :-\
Nice work PB, I'll give you a cheer for that good set-up ::)
I would say Cheers, but not sure if you are being serious or not. :P
I was being serious, I like it, you were 65 now 66. I'll change to boo if you want :P
Is Goodes worth his 493k price tag?
and
What is your favoured structure out of 3 premiums one mid-pricer or 4 premiums 1 midpricer?
Cheers and yes I am asking lots of questions because of the cheeky aforementioned library remark :P
Another one for me:
James McDonald or Lachie Neale?
Which Scott Thompson do you prefer? Not Dreamteam, just in general.
Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2012, 11:56:05 PM
Great thanks zip.
My gut said that Murphy was the weakest of the four...
Rocky only in 3% of teams. Less than Darren Glass at 3.4% apparently... I would like to see how he handles a tag before I pay 550k for a 21 year old.
You would think black and rich, with his penetrating kick, would be getting the tag before him still... he did dominate players like motnagna, watson, ziebell, shuey and matching up well against fyfe, hodge, bartel, all players of high calibre (btw, basing this all off ff data :P)
so yeah, he hasn't had to deal with a tag yet, but can the opposition really let rich and black run free? rocky is an accumulator when it comes down to it, no a massively damaging player in himself.
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:58:01 PM
Hey Zip another question which I need to know. I have 4 keepers in the fwds who share the rd 13 bye. Robinson is the one I want to get rid of. Who do you think I should get? Pav or Fyfe looks like my best options?
Pav. He's a more proven performer with less injury concerns- plus fyfe will probably be copping more attention this year, bad for him, but once again, good for pav :)
True, would also be good structure wise. I'll watch his nab closely.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 12:07:23 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 28, 2012, 11:58:01 PM
Hey Zip another question which I need to know. I have 4 keepers in the fwds who share the rd 13 bye. Robinson is the one I want to get rid of. Who do you think I should get? Pav or Fyfe looks like my best options?
Pav. He's a more proven performer with less injury concerns- plus fyfe will probably be copping more attention this year, bad for him, but once again, good for pav :)
Ok done traded lol.
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2012, 12:00:32 AM
Is Goodes worth his 493k price tag?
and
What is your favoured structure out of 3 premiums one mid-pricer or 4 premiums 1 midpricer?
Cheers and yes I am asking lots of questions because of the cheeky aforementioned library remark :P
goodes- to start with, no imo. Yes he has an easy starting draw, but his average against those opponents is actually quite unimpressive. As well as that his standard 'start slow finish fast' pattern leads me to feel upgrade target.
well, your forward line structure depends on where you're subtracting it on (and what you're defining as midpricer), for instance this year tbh, I believe to be competitive you really need at least 2 forward mid pricers, out of robinson, martin, sidebottom, brown, christensen and maybe even watts and j/n riewoldt for more sneakies.
I presume you've counted one of those players as a premium, so I'm going to go 4 premos 1 mid pricer, so long as it doesn't make your other lines too weak (if you have less than about 3 premos in the backline, then it's too weak :P )
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:01:43 AM
Another one for me:
James McDonald or Lachie Neale?
I'm going to go mcdonald. Proven performer, with decent job security. Imo, will average over 80. Neale is still rookie listed isn't he? and could very well end up as a richardson... at this stage, mcdonald for me.
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:06:22 AM
Which Scott Thompson do you prefer? Not Dreamteam, just in general.
tbh, going to have to go with scott thompson (adelaide).
basically because I don't care about either of them except from a DT/ SC sense :P
also, I find thompsons efforts last year in a pathetic adelaide performance (aka 2011), quite inspiring- if he shows up in a back brace sometime soon we'll know why.... the whole adelaide crows football clubs must have been a dog to carry on one mans back...
and with that I'm going to sleep. Night all.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 12:12:18 AM
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:01:43 AM
Another one for me:
James McDonald or Lachie Neale?
I'm going to go mcdonald. Proven performer, with decent job security. Imo, will average over 80. Neale is still rookie listed isn't he? and could very well end up as a richardson... at this stage, mcdonald for me.
Ok done, if Tralour or Zorko are fit, he's out.
What's gonna happen when we're offline. :-\ May we need a limit of unanswered questions??
lol. Well here's one.
Another bench forward for Tommy Walsh who doesn't have the rd 12 or 13 bye?
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
Bad idea Zippy lol....
I dunno but my question was regarding midfield structure not forward structure... :(
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
I dunno but my question was regarding midfield structure not forward structure... :(
Yeah mine was forward questions regarding in which I should get Pav or Fyfe. It says on the first page that yours is about midfield structure??
Yeah it does but Zip answered it in as if it was about the fwd line...
lol I see now.
"zip, do you wanna catch up? maybe saturday night hindley street? xx"
sorry i know it is two questions but could you please answer both
What are your thoughts on Mitch Robinson?
and which 3 out of....
Pav, Robinson, NRoo, Goodes, Sidebum
would you choose?
Cheers Zip
With Zippy offline i'll answer these questions :D
Quote from: n00bsauce on February 29, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
I can't see the roles of Sidebottom and Beams changing too much from last year. Both will score well and you can get Sidebottom for ~70k less.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
I liked Nicholson when he played last year, was very good. And with the Dees having 3 Rookie upgrades, it won't mean that the rookies that get upgraded will be thrown straight into AFL.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
He'll be right to go for Rd 1, and that's enough for him to be in my team. :)
I'll let Zippy answer FARK's question. :P
Quote from: Adamant on February 29, 2012, 01:39:03 AM
What are your thoughts on Mitch Robinson?
and which 3 out of....
Pav, Robinson, NRoo, Goodes, Sidebum
would you choose?
Cheers Zip
Mitch Robinson will score well, but he'll find a way to get suspended this year, unless his crashing the packs role ceases a little. So a pass for me.
I'd pick Goodes, Sidebottom and Pav coz they'll be the best scorers yet all have the same bye. So for structure Goodes, Sidebottom, NRoo.
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:18:47 AM
lol. Well here's one.
Another bench forward for Tommy Walsh who doesn't have the rd 12 or 13 bye?
saying 'has a round 11 bye' would have been much clearer :P
in the mix for it... panos, kerridge, weedon, treloar, skinner, adam kennedy, cooyou, devon smith.
they all have various concerns though with either injury, scoring potential or job security. Zorko as well if named.
Quote from: elephants on February 29, 2012, 12:29:53 AM
I dunno but my question was regarding midfield structure not forward structure... :(
in that case 3 premiums 1 mid pricer. Too many premiums in the mids will deprive you of far too much cash in a) other areas and b) for money gaining in the season.
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 29, 2012, 01:11:32 AM
"zip, do you wanna catch up? maybe saturday night hindley street? xx"
sorry i know it is two questions but could you please answer both
sorry bro, I live in a real state, not one deemed unfit for even convicts.
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:12:50 AM
I'll let Zippy answer FARK's question. :P
Quote from: Adamant on February 29, 2012, 01:39:03 AM
What are your thoughts on Mitch Robinson?
and which 3 out of....
Pav, Robinson, NRoo, Goodes, Sidebum
would you choose?
Cheers Zip
Mitch Robinson will score well, but he'll find a way to get suspended this year, unless his crashing the packs role ceases a little. So a pass for me.
I'd pick Goodes, Sidebottom and Pav coz they'll be the best scorers yet all have the same bye. So for structure Goodes, Sidebottom, NRoo.
Similar to me, but I personally believe that Goodes won't be godlike as everyone believes in the first half of the season. I would have said, with PB's logic, Pavlich, Sidebottom and NRoo.
HOWEVER
I don't think that robinson should be left out - he was insanely consistent, especially in the last half of the year, all he needs to do is pick up another couple of kicks and he'll be in that premium status with incredible consistency. TBH, I would say Pavlich, Sidebottom and Robinson, for scoring, value and structure.
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
With Zippy offline i'll answer these questions :D
Quote from: n00bsauce on February 29, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
I can't see the roles of Sidebottom and Beams changing too much from last year. Both will score well and you can get Sidebottom for ~70k less.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
I liked Nicholson when he played last year, was very good. And with the Dees having 3 Rookie upgrades, it won't mean that the rookies that get upgraded will be thrown straight into AFL.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
He'll be right to go for Rd 1, and that's enough for him to be in my team. :)
I pretty much agree with what PB said. Beams can play as small forward, and the pies have fasolo as well. Pies have a relatively easy first half of the draw, so I think we'll be seeing some of their younger forwards be given shots against the nuff nuff teams.
as for the dees, I think all three of those are in with a shot to debut round one, possibly all 3 considering melbournes space to upgrade rookies. Their midfield is pretty poor, and their defence isn't crash hot either, so there's definitely room for all of them.
Shiel... if he's named round one, which he should be, then yes. If he's not and we don't have a definite eta on his return, then no.
In case you haven't noticed, I'm awake again and ready to answer questions :P
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:12:50 AM
I'll let Zippy answer FARK's question. :P
Quote from: Adamant on February 29, 2012, 01:39:03 AM
What are your thoughts on Mitch Robinson?
and which 3 out of....
Pav, Robinson, NRoo, Goodes, Sidebum
would you choose?
Cheers Zip
Mitch Robinson will score well, but he'll find a way to get suspended this year, unless his crashing the packs role ceases a little. So a pass for me.
I'd pick Goodes, Sidebottom and Pav coz they'll be the best scorers yet all have the same bye. So for structure Goodes, Sidebottom, NRoo.
Similar to me, but I personally believe that Goodes won't be godlike as everyone believes in the first half of the season. I would have said, with PB's logic, Pavlich, Sidebottom and NRoo.
HOWEVER
I don't think that robinson should be left out - he was insanely consistent, especially in the last half of the year, all he needs to do is pick up another couple of kicks and he'll be in that premium status with incredible consistency. TBH, I would say Pavlich, Sidebottom and Robinson, for scoring, value and structure.
Well I gave him the sack cause you said to get Pav :( lol, what is it?
Would D. Shield be playing for GWS if he wasn't picked up when he was 17?
Who would average better?
Rory Sloane or Chris Judd?
Lenny Hayes vs Michael Barlow
Swan vs Pendles
Which bye is the most fustrating?
Also are you even worrying about the byes???
Are you going overall or league??
Exlam cup or Champions league?
Am I getting annoying?
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:00:50 PM
Would D. Shield be playing for GWS if he wasn't picked up when he was 17?
so you're basically asking if he was in the top 14 picks? Yeah, I would say close to definitely. TBH he would have gone probs top 3 from what I hear, probably over tyson. If he didn't go top 5, GWS would have ended up with wingard and port with him. If that didn't happen would have been 7th at worst :P
so, basically, odds are yes :P
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:03:02 PM
Who would average better?
Rory Sloane or Chris Judd?
Sloane. Cheaper and more potential, Judd's never been a dominant DTer, and I doubt he ever will be. Sloane has more of a chance of beating Judds average last year than Judd does.
Hands down Rory :P
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:04:26 PM
Lenny Hayes vs Michael Barlow
Swan vs Pendles
going to have to go Hayes, he's more proven, and barlow has that injury cloud. It's a pity though....
and Swanny- he's actually underpriced due to his midseason injury, compared to pendles who, I believe, has just about topped out for DT. Removing Swannies injured patch, he averaged over 130... can't go past him really...
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
Which bye is the most fustrating?
Also are you even worrying about the byes???
Are you going overall or league??
Exlam cup or Champions league?
Am I getting annoying?
round 13. Too many premium defenders out- infact out of the top 32 averaging defenders, over 20 of them have the round 13 bye. That's flowered.
at the moment, no, I'm still not. Holding out in hope that VS will stop being dicks and give us another couple of benchies so at least we don't definitely have to cop doughnuts without the dpp rucks.
both overall and league :P I really want to win my main league, but I also want a new car, so...
are they mutually exclusive? I'll win both. Lets face it, why is everyone else still competing this year, I've got every competition nailed down flat.
Well I'm not in the Champions League... but I'm in the elxam cup.
Also I think Car outweighs bragging rights haha
That's it for me. No more questions till tonight.
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:27:56 PM
Well I'm not in the Champions League... but I'm in the elxam cup.
Also I think Car outweighs bragging rights haha
That's it for me. No more questions till tonight.
I actually don't think I'm in the champs league either lol.
kk, I'll hear from you tonight :P
Hey Zip ,thoughts on how you see 2012 pan out for n.roo and montag can they get big dt scoring back ???
Quote from: truBLUE on February 29, 2012, 05:09:22 PM
Hey Zip ,thoughts on how you see 2012 pan out for n.roo and montag can they get big dt scoring back ???
well, with roo, it's been a concern about if he can really recover from his injuries fully, as well as that, the saints don't have any dominant targets up front to take attention, and so he's been slaughtered.
If he's fully recovered from his injuries, considering the delivery I personally think he'll be getting, I think his days of pushing the 100 average barrier are gone. However, mid 90s isn't past him, and that's really enough for a keeper- he certainly begs consideration, and featured in my side until all these young DPP's came in.
Montagna is an interesting one, the thing with him is that, imo, it all depends and hinges on hayes. If hayes can return from injury firing at 100%, attracting the tag away from montagna, then I can see him pushing 110+ once again. If hayes returns, and he no longer performs at his best, I can still see montagna bouncing back, but not much over 105. Could still be a worthwhile pick though.
Front page updated. Left out some questions which aren't worth writing up. :)
Lol the last question. He never actually answer it pb...
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 05:36:51 PM
Lol the last question. He never actually answer it pb...
Fine, i'll answer it.
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 12:05:34 PM
Am I getting annoying?
No you are not, you are keeping the thread alive. :P
Hey,
Just wondering if Heppell is worth getting??
Is Rohan worth it?
Quote from: JamSainter on February 29, 2012, 05:50:12 PM
Hey,
Just wondering if Heppell is worth getting??
I definitely see value in him. Despite the 'second year rule' top draft picks actually increase their scoring (on average) in their second year. Look at players like Martin and Trengove this year- if heppell increases to that degree he's going to be averaging close to 100 ppg.
I mean, there's always the chance he won't go up, and will hover at the 80 mark or drop to low 70s, but that's a chance you have to be willing to take.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on February 29, 2012, 05:53:16 PM
Is Rohan worth it?
well, he is really cheap, and was held back by injuries last year if I'm correct? He has pretty much undeniable talent, and he's at the age where he should start getting regular games for sydney. Personally I'd withhold locking him until we see his NAB cup form, but atm I like the look of him quite a bit. Already under priced (averaged nearly 60 taking out subbed games).
Boyd, Thompson, Rockliff, Redden for last 4th premium mid spot? Thompson looks like he could absolutely destroy with handy fixture, but boyd is always solid, both bris boys look the goods for another big year, thoughts?
Quote from: DTmagician on February 29, 2012, 07:38:26 PM
Boyd, Thompson, Rockliff, Redden for last 4th premium mid spot? Thompson looks like he could absolutely destroy with handy fixture, but boyd is always solid, both bris boys look the goods for another big year, thoughts?
I'd just like to point out that all four have the same bye. ;)
yeah need one of those four to fit my sturctures
Quote from: DTmagician on February 29, 2012, 07:43:28 PM
yeah need one of those four to fit my sturctures
Ahh, ok. Boyd easily. :)
I just made a thread but thought I'd throw my question in here as well.
QuoteI've had Leuenberger locked in with Sandi since day one, but I have started to think Jacobs might be better. Who do you think will average more this year?
Quote from: DTmagician on February 29, 2012, 07:38:26 PM
Boyd, Thompson, Rockliff, Redden for last 4th premium mid spot? Thompson looks like he could absolutely destroy with handy fixture, but boyd is always solid, both bris boys look the goods for another big year, thoughts?
I wouldn't say boyd easily, he's definitely the most proven though. I personally rate rockliff for a monster year. It's really a coin toss though- boyd, you know what you get, but thompson + rockliff both represent better value, and in rockliff's case huge potential.
tbh, if I was making the choice I would go rockliff :P
Quote from: Chelskiman on February 29, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
I just made a thread but thought I'd throw my question in here as well.
QuoteI've had Leuenberger locked in with Sandi since day one, but I have started to think Jacobs might be better. Who do you think will average more this year?
I'm going jacobs. Easy draw and will pull points from that, is also the crows only ruckman while the lions recently recruited hudson and drafter longer (although he won't impact much). If they're out of finals contention, I think we could see leuen getting rested with hudson as no.1 and longer playing second fiddle, you don't want that in a premo ruck.
Oh no it almost went to the second page...
What your thoughts on Dave Rodan?
not a name I thought I'd ever see thrown around a fantasy board :o
29 years of age, coming into his 10th season, career high average of 70. Not for me. If you're looking for a smokie to average 90+ in that price range, players like gaff, palmer and tuck are way better bets.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 07:54:58 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on February 29, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
I just made a thread but thought I'd throw my question in here as well.
QuoteI've had Leuenberger locked in with Sandi since day one, but I have started to think Jacobs might be better. Who do you think will average more this year?
I'm going jacobs. Easy draw and will pull points from that, is also the crows only ruckman while the lions recently recruited hudson and drafter longer (although he won't impact much). If they're out of finals contention, I think we could see leuen getting rested with hudson as no.1 and longer playing second fiddle, you don't want that in a premo ruck.
Cheers, Zip! I think I'll go with Jacobs now, he's cheaper and has no challenge for number 1 ruck.
Who's the best ruckman going around?
(not Cox or Sandi)
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Who's the best ruckman going around?
(not Cox or Sandi)
behind cox and sandilands... goldstein + leuen are the obvious choices, but honestly I feel both will be impacted by returning/ recruited rucks. I doubt leuens scores will fall (much), but I can't see them rising substantially. Goldsteins I expect to fall a handful of points, down to mid to low 90s. Honestly, I see mumford and jacobs as both being in the top 4 scoring ruckmen this season, along with cox and sandi.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
Quote from: whatlez on February 29, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Who's the best ruckman going around?
(not Cox or Sandi)
behind cox and sandilands... goldstein + leuen are the obvious choices, but honestly I feel both will be impacted by returning/ recruited rucks. I doubt leuens scores will fall (much), but I can't see them rising substantially. Goldsteins I expect to fall a handful of points, down to mid to low 90s. Honestly, I see mumford and jacobs as both being in the top 4 scoring ruckmen this season, along with cox and sandi.
no love for Leuy?
personally, no, I think he'll stay around the low 90s range this year. I can see jacobs + mumford lift to/ past mid 90s.
Damn...
On an unrelationed note, am I your assistant for Euro's? Never got a reply?
yeah I put you in :P
Well hopefully you know a couple of things Zip :P
I'm tossing up between Selwood and Thompson in one of my centre spots
Byes aren't worrying and not too concerned with money
I'm just tossing up between Thompson's draw (and ability to smash weaker teams) vs Selwood's betterness and team etc.
Any imput would be coolies :)
Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:33:29 PM
Well hopefully you know a couple of things Zip :P
I'm tossing up between Selwood and Thompson in one of my centre spots
Byes aren't worrying and not too concerned with money
I'm just tossing up between Thompson's draw (and ability to smash weaker teams) vs Selwood's betterness and team etc.
Any imput would be coolies :)
priced at the same, except selwood is underpriced due to that concussion. I'm going to have to go with the captain of the premiers, and arguably one of the best players in the competition.
Selwood in case you didn't get that :P
Thompson definitely has the potential to hit a 115 average this year with his draw, but selwood would have averaged 114 last year barring concussion.
So you'd be expecting him to improve several point on his average (selwood) or about the 115-6 mark similar to what Thompson could achieve?
Where did you finish last season Zippy?
Quote from: TheMailman on February 29, 2012, 10:41:00 PM
So you'd be expecting him to improve several point on his average (selwood) or about the 115-6 mark similar to what Thompson could achieve?
basically, yeah. I can't see selwood falling under what he's capable of, he's just more a certainty for that position.
Quote from: noto07 on February 29, 2012, 10:44:13 PM
Where did you finish last season Zippy?
honestly? around 6000th. I had a bit of a horror run in my second year, didn't go with my gut enough with my initial team selection, then I went over to the middle east for the last month or so of the H/A season, and had minimal internet connection.
For a second year of DTing, and first year of following the afl (don't question that order, just accept it), it was solid enough.
1. is it better to have 15 starting premiums who will be there come finals, or 14 and have $ in the bank (~110-160k)? :)
2. do you miss me? :P
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
With Zippy offline i'll answer these questions :D
Quote from: n00bsauce on February 29, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
I can't see the roles of Sidebottom and Beams changing too much from last year. Both will score well and you can get Sidebottom for ~70k less.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
I liked Nicholson when he played last year, was very good. And with the Dees having 3 Rookie upgrades, it won't mean that the rookies that get upgraded will be thrown straight into AFL.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
He'll be right to go for Rd 1, and that's enough for him to be in my team. :)
Cheers mate, didnt realise that the dees had 3 spots, thought they only had 2.
haha fair enough mate! decent effort!
Reply 100. Sorry just had to do that.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
With Zippy offline i'll answer these questions :D
Quote from: n00bsauce on February 29, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
I can't see the roles of Sidebottom and Beams changing too much from last year. Both will score well and you can get Sidebottom for ~70k less.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
I liked Nicholson when he played last year, was very good. And with the Dees having 3 Rookie upgrades, it won't mean that the rookies that get upgraded will be thrown straight into AFL.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
He'll be right to go for Rd 1, and that's enough for him to be in my team. :)
Cheers mate, didnt realise that the dees had 3 spots, thought they only had 2.
tbh read a post today about how the dees only have one spot for a rookie upgrade.
but I think that's because they haven't updated their LTI list- it's 3 since they only have 1 vet and gawn + spencer on the LTI :P
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on February 29, 2012, 11:07:46 PM
1. is it better to have 15 starting premiums who will be there come finals, or 14 and have $ in the bank (~110-160k)? :)
2. do you miss me? :P
it depends, how many midpricers are you starting? if you have a fair few or middie or quasi premo, then having that buffer of cash could be worthwhile. If you've found a player for 160k cheaper that you're pretty sure will break out into premo this year, then it's definitely worth it.
But if you've just got the cash sitting there... not really. It does allow a greater degree of flexibility, but when it comes down to it, if you can get a premium in, then get them in.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 11:18:28 PM
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 11:08:23 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on February 29, 2012, 09:08:45 AM
With Zippy offline i'll answer these questions :D
Quote from: n00bsauce on February 29, 2012, 12:22:33 AM
Sidebottom has been said to be in the midfield more this season but with collingwood's small forward injury concerns, (macaffer, krakouer and didak) will he be pulled back to the forward line more?
and if so, will beams get more game time in the midfield?
I can't see the roles of Sidebottom and Beams changing too much from last year. Both will score well and you can get Sidebottom for ~70k less.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
Zip
Who will most likely get the start in R1 for Dees?
Couch
Magner
Nicholson
I liked Nicholson when he played last year, was very good. And with the Dees having 3 Rookie upgrades, it won't mean that the rookies that get upgraded will be thrown straight into AFL.
Quote from: tabs on February 29, 2012, 12:25:40 AM
To Shiel or not to Shiel? Any idea when will he be back training after the surgery??
He'll be right to go for Rd 1, and that's enough for him to be in my team. :)
Cheers mate, didnt realise that the dees had 3 spots, thought they only had 2.
tbh read a post today about how the dees only have one spot for a rookie upgrade.
but I think that's because they haven't updated their LTI list- it's 3 since they only have 1 vet and gawn + spencer on the LTI :P
so you dont think they will upgrade a tall for gawn?? as couch and magner are small
neither of their talls were in their best 22 when it came down to it. They need a solid midfield to be competitive- atm they only have trengove. Get magner and couch in, and build from there.
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 11:29:35 PM
neither of their talls were in their best 22 when it came down to it. They need a solid midfield to be competitive- atm they only have trengove. Get magner and couch in, and build from there.
cheers mate
do you think hogan can make it into geelong's 22?
Jack Grimes is too much or a person now?
Is John Brown to couragous?
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on February 29, 2012, 11:07:46 PM
1. is it better to have 15 starting premiums who will be there come finals, or 14 and have $ in the bank (~110-160k)? :)
2. do you miss me? :P
it depends, how many midpricers are you starting? if you have a fair few or middie or quasi premo, then having that buffer of cash could be worthwhile. If you've found a player for 160k cheaper that you're pretty sure will break out into premo this year, then it's definitely worth it.
But if you've just got the cash sitting there... not really. It does allow a greater degree of flexibility, but when it comes down to it, if you can get a premium in, then get them in.
15 big 400k-600k premiums, with a possibly 16th in hargrave. I sacrificed wingard, swan and m. clarke for fisher, murphy and Sam Gibson... worthwhile?
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 01, 2012, 01:11:48 AM
do you think hogan can make it into geelong's 22?
I think he's in there with a shot. I hear a fair few geelong supporters rate him with a chance, I suppose just wait to see- if he continues to perform he'll probably slide in round 1.
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on March 01, 2012, 11:48:17 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on February 29, 2012, 11:20:49 PM
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on February 29, 2012, 11:07:46 PM
1. is it better to have 15 starting premiums who will be there come finals, or 14 and have $ in the bank (~110-160k)? :)
2. do you miss me? :P
it depends, how many midpricers are you starting? if you have a fair few or middie or quasi premo, then having that buffer of cash could be worthwhile. If you've found a player for 160k cheaper that you're pretty sure will break out into premo this year, then it's definitely worth it.
But if you've just got the cash sitting there... not really. It does allow a greater degree of flexibility, but when it comes down to it, if you can get a premium in, then get them in.
15 big 400k-600k premiums, with a possibly 16th in hargrave. I sacrificed wingard, swan and m. clarke for fisher, murphy and Sam Gibson... worthwhile?
I don't know.... yes, you've got two 'premiums' out of it, but at the same time, fisher has never been truly premium, more of a quasi premo, and murphy is by far swans inferior.
if we say options one
70+ 240 +80= 390
and option two
85 + 224 +65= 374
I'm actually seeing fisher + gibsons + murphy as coming behind swan + wingard + clarke.
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 10:54:51 AM
Jack Grimes is too much or a person now?
Is John Brown to couragous?
Brown is closer to an idiot than courageous after getting his face smashed in at TRAINING.
Grimes... I'll withold my opinion until details on his injury are released :P
ey Zip ,Mattew Jaensch how do you see this kid for 2012 in def and in dt ,is he worth a punt now that grimes has injury or is there better options ,appreciate input ???
Quote from: truBLUE on March 01, 2012, 12:51:57 PM
ey Zip ,Mattew Jaensch how do you see this kid for 2012 in def and in dt ,is he worth a punt now that grimes has injury or is there better options ,appreciate input ???
averaged over 70 not including his injured/ subbed match, but at the same time just has a massive spread of scores across the board, with a season high score of 94, he hasn't really demonstrated the ceiling to make him a viable mid pricer. Unless he's flogging the NAB, I don't think I would go near him.
He's a forward though, not a defender isn't he...?
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 01:02:54 PM
He's a forward though, not a defender isn't he...?
Nope, $330k ish defender.
still not worth the punt imo :P
you're probably right but I'm not content on swan up first, or any of the colliwobblers to start with :p so wingard+clarke vs fisher+gibson? hmmm decisions decisions!!!
honestly I can see clarke pulling out a comparable average to fisher, and wingards JS/ scoring potential kills gibsons.
Do you think spoils should be worth one point in DT? This will help out players like Gibson, Merrett and other defenders.
I do have issues with the scoring system in DT. For instance, I believe that a behind should be worth far more than 1 point, it's a scoring shot, yet it's worth half a handball?
The lack of performance with defenders is another one of the issues I have with it. I would like spoils to be worth a point or so in DT, but I think the problem is identifying and classing what is a spoil. For instance, if Merrett is contesting a mark with Franklin, and in process of doing so, neither mark the ball, is it a spoil? or did Merrett just flower up the mark?
I still think that one of the better ways to get key position defenders a more elevated fantasy status would be to allocate them points automatically at the start of the match, and then to lose a proportion of those points for each goal/ point scored against them by their direct opponents.
Eitherway, I feel the scoring system needs to be tweaked.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 02:43:03 PM
I do have issues with the scoring system in DT. For instance, I believe that a behind should be worth far more than 1 point, it's a scoring shot, yet it's worth half a handball?
The lack of performance with defenders is another one of the issues I have with it. I would like spoils to be worth a point or so in DT, but I think the problem is identifying and classing what is a spoil. For instance, if Merrett is contesting a mark with Franklin, and in process of doing so, neither mark the ball, is it a spoil? or did Merrett just flower up the mark?
I still think that one of the better ways to get key position defenders a more elevated fantasy status would be to allocate them points automatically at the start of the match, and then to lose a proportion of those points for each goal/ point scored against them by their direct opponents.
Eitherway, I feel the scoring system needs to be tweaked.
We have to agree that the DT scoring system is better than the SC scoring system?
both systems are inherently flawed.
won't stop me from winning both though ;)
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 02:50:27 PM
both systems are inherently flawed.
won't stop me from winning both though ;)
haha, it looks like I will win the KO cup, only versing LaHug in the first round :P
means you'll win round 1, not much else :P
anyone got some questions for me tonight?
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's
I know right :P
but shhhh, people don't know that ;)
kk got another question
Currently have Murphy in my 3rd mid spot, plus 28k
Would it be worthwhile to change him to a player like Boyd, Rocky, Mitchell, Redden, Thompson etc. or should I just keep him?
My current midfield looks like this
Swan, Ablett, Murphy, Selwood, Zorko, Shiel (Brown, McDonald)
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's
Wait until the season starts. :D
Quote from: TheMailman on March 01, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
kk got another question
Currently have Murphy in my 3rd mid spot, plus 28k
Would it be worthwhile to change him to a player like Boyd, Rocky, Mitchell, Redden, Thompson etc. or should I just keep him?
My current midfield looks like this
Swan, Ablett, Murphy, Selwood, Zorko, Shiel (Brown, McDonald)
Copy my midfield much? haha. Except recently I traded Zorko out. But that was the exact midfield I had earlier today.
Who, in your opinion, are the top ten rookie forwards?
Quote from: TheMailman on March 01, 2012, 10:00:40 PM
kk got another question
Currently have Murphy in my 3rd mid spot, plus 28k
Would it be worthwhile to change him to a player like Boyd, Rocky, Mitchell, Redden, Thompson etc. or should I just keep him?
My current midfield looks like this
Swan, Ablett, Murphy, Selwood, Zorko, Shiel (Brown, McDonald)
I'm calling rockliff to outscore murphy. As well as that, his bye fits your premium structure better, as you have no round 11 premiums in your mids.
Zippy! Need your help ;)
GAJ + Saad + 100k Rookie Midfielder or Midfielder below 510k + Coniglio + Cameron
Cheers
-Q
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Who, in your opinion, are the top ten rookie forwards?
in no particular order, based on both scoring potential and JS
Dell'Olio
Kerridge
Hall
Zorko (if named round 1)
Weedon
Skinner
Smedts (give him another shot this NAB)
Saad
D. Smith
Pfeiffer
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Really, well name the top 10 backs then. :P That's where i'm stuffed.
Quote from: PowerBug on March 01, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Really, well name the top 10 backs then. :P That's where i'm stuffed.
That's a lot easier, but this isn't my thread :-X
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Who, in your opinion, are the top ten rookie forwards?
in no particular order, based on both scoring potential and JS
Dell'Olio
Kerridge
Hall
Zorko (if named round 1)
Weedon
Skinner
Smedts (give him another shot this NAB)
Saad
D. Smith
Pfeiffer
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Cheers, Zip. At the moment I'm playing Buddy, Dusty, Pav and Sidebottom in my forwards (my midfield is stacked with Swan, Pendles, Gazza and Boyd) so I'm really relying on my rookies in the forward line.
Quote from: Master Q on March 01, 2012, 10:06:07 PM
Zippy! Need your help ;)
GAJ + Saad + 100k Rookie Midfielder or Midfielder below 510k + Coniglio + Cameron
Cheers
-Q
I'm going option one, with minimal look into, on the basis that I believe to really be in it this season you need to be starting an underpriced Ablett. As well as that, not that great pickings below 510k- honestly, I find swallow the most appealing of the lot (andy of course)
What if you went like GAJ + Hall/Weedon + Neal/Magner
Cheaper options that performed well in NAB cup, could be in the mix for round one.
does it fit?
if it doesn't appeal, then your original GAJ option
Name the top 5 mid bench.
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:13:08 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Who, in your opinion, are the top ten rookie forwards?
in no particular order, based on both scoring potential and JS
Dell'Olio
Kerridge
Hall
Zorko (if named round 1)
Weedon
Skinner
Smedts (give him another shot this NAB)
Saad
D. Smith
Pfeiffer
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Cheers, Zip. At the moment I'm playing Buddy, Dusty, Pav and Sidebottom in my forwards (my midfield is stacked with Swan, Pendles, Gazza and Boyd) so I'm really relying on my rookies in the forward line.
my advice then would be to pick a rookie spread of high scoring potential, high JS, and a mix. Your high JS but low scoring will sit on the bench slowly accruing cash, and jump in should your high scoring but low JS slip in and out of their teams ;)
Quote from: PowerBug on March 01, 2012, 10:11:34 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Really, well name the top 10 backs then. :P That's where i'm stuffed.
top 10 backs or back rookies? I presume rookies :P
they're almost as dodgy...
brown should get a look at this week, keep an eye out on him
smedts again
sierakowski
Moris
Darley
Bugg
Mohr
Clarke
Guthrie for a smokie
Ellis
Heath and Yagmoor might get a look in as well?
I have Neale.
I'll put it this way (Remember I have a Rookie Midfield Approach).
Option 1:
Swan, Ablett, Wingard, Clifton, Zorko, Shiel, Neale + 119k for one more player. Saad in forward line.
or
Swan, -510k Midfielder, Wingard, Clifton, Zorko, Shiel, Neale, Coniglio. Cameron (or alternative) in forward line.
Chad Wingard. Best rookie to pick this year?
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 10:14:16 PM
Name the top 5 mid bench.
finally, an easier one :P
firstly, note the exclusion of coniglio and wingard- both are too expensive for a mid bench spot, should be fielded.
Neale
Magner (those two for their obvious NAB scoring so far)
McDonald (proven performer, will play a fair amount, and score damn well)
Shiel (if he's named round one)
Hogan (mature aged, decent scoring potential, but JS is shaky)
for a smokie
C. Smith (left field choice, but elite junior numbers, could find a spot)
Quote from: Master Q on March 01, 2012, 10:19:16 PM
I have Neale.
I'll put it this way (Remember I have a Rookie Midfield Approach).
Option 1:
Swan, Ablett, Wingard, Clifton, Zorko, Shiel, Neale + 119k for one more player. Saad in forward line.
or
Swan, -510k Midfielder, Wingard, Clifton, Zorko, Shiel, Neale, Coniglio. Cameron (or alternative) in forward line.
option 1, for a rookie midfield you have to go for the best. If swan gets rested, you really don't want to be depending on captain swallow etc.
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 10:22:18 PM
Chad Wingard. Best rookie to pick this year?
He could be, certainly shown to be a gun scorer etc. But primus apparently doesn't think he's quite there for afl level (too light I'm guessing), so he mighten't be getting consistent time in a DT friendly position, maybe not even consistent games at afl level.
Thanks ;)
Last question.
ROK + Cameron (or alternative) or Brown and Porps.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:15:19 PMmy advice then would be to pick a rookie spread of high scoring potential, high JS, and a mix. Your high JS but low scoring will sit on the bench slowly accruing cash, and jump in should your high scoring but low JS slip in and out of their teams ;)
Can you rank them in order of both JS and scoring potential then? :-*
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:03:04 PM
Who, in your opinion, are the top ten rookie forwards?
in no particular order, based on both scoring potential and JS
Dell'Olio
Kerridge
Hall
Zorko (if named round 1)
Weedon
Skinner
Smedts (give him another shot this NAB)
Saad
D. Smith
Pfeiffer
pickings are pretty thin up there though...
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 01, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 01, 2012, 10:15:19 PMmy advice then would be to pick a rookie spread of high scoring potential, high JS, and a mix. Your high JS but low scoring will sit on the bench slowly accruing cash, and jump in should your high scoring but low JS slip in and out of their teams ;)
Can you rank them in order of both JS and scoring potential then? :-*
glare
Scoring Potential
1. Weedon
2. Hall
3. Skinner
4. Dell'Olio
5. Kerridge
6. Zorko (purely speculative)
7. Pfeiffer
8. Smedts
9 D. Smith
10. Saad
JS
1. Zorko
2. Pfeiffer
3. D Smith
4. Hall
5. Kerridge
6. Saad
7. Smedts
8. Skinner
9. Weedon
10. Dell'Olio
Just interested in how you calculated the list for scoring potential seeing as I would of thought differently :)
JS is pretty easy to guess though
NAB cup for the most part tbh :P, but since the majority of the options were so closely put together, it was just randomised nudges in some cases.
Nice thread guys, how have I only just found it ???
And yes PB thats a pretty index :)
I got a question, a short question with a long answer...
Q. If every rook was named to play in round 1 ( impossible buts lets say they were) what would be your top 5 for each position. Based on scoring/cost - basically the best 5 picks in each position - zorko - assume he is fit, magner assume he gets e,evated ect ect.
Have 90k for my last midfield spot, should I go Magner, Couch (haven't got a DPP link atm in the mids) or Gibson?
Come on PB your not doing your job :P
OK I got a second question surely I can have two.... it's for my SC team but the same ZIP advice would apply in DT.
This is for my #2 and #3 FWD spots, with Franklin , Sidebottom, Christo locked in #1 #4 #5
I have listed my concerns, which shows why I come to ZIP for wisdom.
Q. Premium Forward Picks. Can you rank these 1-10 and comment please ?
1. Goodes - 3 yrs in a row he scores significantly more in the 2nd half of the season.
2. Fyfe - I hear you say he will cop attention and may get injures - both points make sense.
3. Pav - I hear the coach doing articles on extending his career by managing his game time, further backed up this philosophy in the recent article on managing sandi workload to prevent injurt.
4. Beams - a little of an unknown quantity for the hefty price.
5. Chapman - Getting on, hamstrings will snap i hear whispered.
6. Martin - Horribly tough first half draw.
7. Stevie J - very expensive
8-9-10 - zaka - robbo - lewis = not sure these are worthy of top 3 premium FWD starter spots....
Thanks again, Zip!
Cw I think your allowed more than 1 question lol. Go to the first page second comment and look at all the questions I asked yesterday...
Anyways this should get bumped in that little spot below cw thread. Just so it stays on the top and will become more popular.
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's
atleast it helped your quota Whatlez
Hey Zip what do you think about Chappy and Stevie J, currently dont have ether as i have Goodes, Buddy and Pav. Would you select Chappy or Stevie J infront of Goodes, Buddy or Pav
Now the questions are building up.
I got a question.
your opinion, top smokie this year
and player to drop most in value
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 01, 2012, 11:15:38 PM
Nice thread guys, how have I only just found it ???
And yes PB thats a pretty index :)
I got a question, a short question with a long answer...
Q. If every rook was named to play in round 1 ( impossible buts lets say they were) what would be your top 5 for each position. Based on scoring/cost - basically the best 5 picks in each position - zorko - assume he is fit, magner assume he gets e,evated ect ect.
I'm counting rookie priced players in this as well :P
Defence:
Darley, Clarke, Bower, Buntine, Urquhart
Yeah, most of them are pretty pricey, but if they were all guaranteed close to a pull season, those would be my 5- all of them would, imo average over 70, and probably 3 of them pushing 80
Mids:
McDonald, Neale, Shiel, Mitchell, Miles
Neale's shown good NAB cup, McDonald is a proven performer, Mitchell, Shiel and Miles have all proven themselves to be dt sluts as juniors.
Rucks
Giles, Stephesen- obvious
then gets a little more sticky from here.
I'm going with Jenkins, Gorringe and Redden. Jenkins has minimal competition for the ruck and hitouts, Gorringe I can see scoring quite well this season, he's underpriced due to injury and sub last year, and Redden has reasonable scoring potential. Cordy would have been there as well, but his pricing is just a little too high for me.
Forward:
Zorko, Treloar, Weedon, Skinner, Hall
I think most of those are self explanatory
Quote from: Jukes on March 01, 2012, 11:24:04 PM
Have 90k for my last midfield spot, should I go Magner, Couch (haven't got a DPP link atm in the mids) or Gibson?
I'd be going Magner- Dees need mids more than roos, DPP link isn't as necessary with changes to trading rules.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 01, 2012, 11:30:09 PM
OK I got a second question surely I can have two.... it's for my SC team but the same ZIP advice would apply in DT.
This is for my #2 and #3 FWD spots, with Franklin , Sidebottom, Christo locked in #1 #4 #5
I have listed my concerns, which shows why I come to ZIP for wisdom.
Q. Premium Forward Picks. Can you rank these 1-10 and comment please ?
1. Goodes - 3 yrs in a row he scores significantly more in the 2nd half of the season.
2. Fyfe - I hear you say he will cop attention and may get injures - both points make sense.
3. Pav - I hear the coach doing articles on extending his career by managing his game time, further backed up this philosophy in the recent article on managing sandi workload to prevent injurt.
4. Beams - a little of an unknown quantity for the hefty price.
5. Chapman - Getting on, hamstrings will snap i hear whispered.
6. Martin - Horribly tough first half draw.
7. Stevie J - very expensive
8-9-10 - zaka - robbo - lewis = not sure these are worthy of top 3 premium FWD starter spots....
1. Goodes 7, he's always a DT jet, but even given his early draw I can't see him shaking off his pattern. Finish stronger than he starts, upgrade target for me.
2 Fyfe 5, more attention, injury issues, fit midfield mighten't get as much time, forwards don't generally have back to back break outs.
3 Pav 9, he's been touted, and played in NAB cup, in his most DT friendly position. I'm rating him highly
4. Beams 6, too unproven for that price tag in the forward line, unlikely his scoring will increase, while there's a distinct possibility of decreasing
5. Chapman 8, seriously underpriced and injury hampered last year (his 'worst year' and still averaged 100), once geelong fixed his running style hasn't really had hammy problems in two years- age is a concern, but deserves consideration
6. Martin 8- Worst case scenario with his hard start to the year, with him improving I think he'll at worst average a point or two below his current average for the first half of the year. Not really worth making him an upgrade target... and you'll regret not having him come second half.
7. Stevie J 7- I can see him averaging over 100 again this year, but he is over priced, and rollercoasting means his price will drop. His average is severely distorted by a couple of monster scores.
8-9-10. Not a Zaha fan, as you've probably seen, due to injury issues etc. Lewis... honestly would be a great forward pick, but she scores like crapola when he cops tagging jobs. Does it look like hawks have another designated tagger this season? If so could be worth a shot. Robinson is the best of the lot imo- ultra consistent in his second half of the season, all he needs is a couple more possessions and would make a great premium.
Quote from: tabs on March 01, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's
atleast it helped your quota Whatlez
Hey Zip what do you think about Chappy and Stevie J, currently dont have ether as i have Goodes, Buddy and Pav. Would you select Chappy or Stevie J infront of Goodes, Buddy or Pav
well I pretty much answered this in my above post to colliwobs, but basically, I think chappy is seriously underpriced and stevie J overpriced. I don't think I would pick SJ over any of those, but would probably pick Chappy over goodes.
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 11:50:07 PM
Now the questions are building up.
I got a question.
your opinion, top smokie this year
and player to drop most in value
haha. Fishing chronically, but I'll bite to a degree.
smokie- gaff. I've been saying it for a while, lock in the 90 average, chance for 100+. Sub affected, otherwise averaged 84
drop in value- Bartel is on the slide. People talk about him bouncing back, don't listen to them. Could drop as low as 80s average this year.
The Hawthorn backs were very lucrative last year, which backline do you think has the most upside in 2012?
can you list how many upgrades from rookies to seniors each clubs has?
Quote from: Mr.Craig on March 02, 2012, 12:25:52 AM
The Hawthorn backs were very lucrative last year, which backline do you think has the most upside in 2012?
that's the question to win to car ;)
early days, but atm I'm going GWS (obviously) and WBD
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 02, 2012, 08:59:06 AM
can you list how many upgrades from rookies to seniors each clubs has?
as of the 16th of december (+ anything I happen to personally know)
Adelaide- 1
Carlton- 2
Collingwood- 1
Essendon- 2
Geelong- 1
Hawthorn- 2
Melbourne- 3
North Melbourne- 1
Port Adelaide- 2
Richmond-1
Saint Kilda- 2
West Coast- 1
but I did see a post a few days ago, and I swear not that many clubs had openings on their list. Anyway, that's it according to wikipedia based on veterans and LTIs at the club.
Is having 3 round 12 keepers in the fwd line from round 1 a bad move?
Goodes, Pav and Sidebottom are all in my fwd line. Keep in mind they all have Mid/Fwd DPP.
Thanks mate.
Yeah I'm in the same structure as elephants.
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 01:25:24 PM
Is having 3 round 12 keepers in the fwd line from round 1 a bad move?
Goodes, Pav and Sidebottom are all in my fwd line. Keep in mind they all have Mid/Fwd DPP.
Thanks mate.
we know we're going to have to cop doughnuts somewhere without dpp ruck, if you're choosing one for the fwds, so be it.
What about if you have 3 keepers for rd 12 and rd13?
Cheers Zip.
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 01:51:09 PM
What about if you have 3 keepers for rd 12 and rd13?
once again, still viable if that's where you're intending on getting your 0s
is it manageable to have lake hargraves and howard starting? knowing that i will prob upgrade/downgrade 1 or 2 before rd 11 bye
backs: goddard shaw duffield lake howard hargrave clarke (ellis bugg)
having the 3 will allow me to have swan pendles boyd and Ablett in the starting mids.
Quote from: Stocutz on March 02, 2012, 02:03:56 PM
is it manageable to have lake hargraves and howard starting? knowing that i will prob upgrade/downgrade 1 or 2 before rd 11 bye
backs: goddard shaw duffield lake howard hargrave clarke (ellis bugg)
having the 3 will allow me to have swan pendles boyd and Ablett in the starting mids.
theoretically yes, but in reality it's unlikely that's going to work for you. Unless the dogs drastically change their game style in the backline, so it becomes more possession friendly like hawthorns, it's just not viable- when it comes down to it, I cant see all three of them averaging 80+ without a game plan change, let alone going close to premium.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
Quote from: Stocutz on March 02, 2012, 02:03:56 PM
is it manageable to have lake hargraves and howard starting? knowing that i will prob upgrade/downgrade 1 or 2 before rd 11 bye
backs: goddard shaw duffield lake howard hargrave clarke (ellis bugg)
having the 3 will allow me to have swan pendles boyd and Ablett in the starting mids.
theoretically yes, but in reality it's unlikely that's going to work for you. Unless the dogs drastically change their game style in the backline, so it becomes more possession friendly like hawthorns, it's just not viable- when it comes down to it, I cant see all three of them averaging 80+ without a game plan change, let alone going close to premium.
cheers for that. i think they r the most underpriced backs along with duffield. i'll take the punt, its just a shame they play for the same team. the dogs dont have the toughest draw earlier on either.
Zip. Paul Bower in the back or Shannon Byrnes in the forwards???
I'm going Byrnes. There's a space in the team for him, while Bower was a 50/50 to get delisted last season. Unless he looks like he's cemented a place in the side from NAB, Byrnes for me.
Ok with that. Simon Hogan to slip in my mids as number 6 or keep Byrnes?
byrnes- plenty of mid options, not so many elsewhere.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 03:26:19 PM
byrnes- plenty of mid options, not so many elsewhere.
Ok thanks.
Ok I got a tough one. I need a mid bench who has the rd 13 bye. Max 104k.
no you don't all your cash cows should be traded out by round 13 :P
which is good, because there are no viable options.
Yeah I figured it out and yeah he needs to be traded lol..
What about Shaw or Lids. Shaw's bye helps out a lot.
*sharp intake of breath* difficult one. Ordinarily I would say lids any day of the week, but with his hammy strain he'll be a bit underdone and has a killer starting draw. Shaw'll be a touch unique, so I think I'm leaning on him...
I just made the swap, I think Shaw will start better and Lids can come in at rd 14 or so.
I would take Lids over Shaw but I managed to get both... Down to personal preference imo. Drop Birch for Shaw whatlez? Birch is a little more unstable imo as he hasn't been an elite backline premium for very long. I'd like to see how teams account for the Hawks possesion game plan. A man on man system may cut them down...
my trial score is 1026 should i be worried yet?
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
I would take Lids over Shaw but I managed to get both... Down to personal preference imo. Drop Birch for Shaw whatlez? Birch is a little more unstable imo as he hasn't been an elite backline premium for very long. I'd like to see how teams account for the Hawks possesion game plan. A man on man system may cut them down...
But I love Birchall lol. He's a personal favourite same Marc Murphy.
Oh yeah Zip What about this. Thoughts on Jeremy Cameron and Curley Hampton? And if what rd 11 bye players should I replace with? (Don't say Zorko)
Quote from: nathan11 on March 02, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
my trial score is 1026 should i be worried yet?
Don't care about my teams NAB cup score tbh just what each player is scoring and how they are playing.
Selwood + Wilkes + Darley + Boyd + Couch + 13k
OR
Swan + Heppell + Bower + Shiel + Saad + 70k
I know it's big but I am clueless right now.... ::)
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
Selwood + Wilkes + Darley + Boyd + Couch + 13k
OR
Swan + Heppell + Bower + Shiel + Saad + 70k
I know it's big but I am clueless right now.... ::)
I'd go for the top selection, although I'd say there's a few better defender rookies then Beau Wilkes to select.
And maybe Selwood out for STANTON
Quote from: Jukes on March 02, 2012, 04:38:03 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
Selwood + Wilkes + Darley + Boyd + Couch + 13k
OR
Swan + Heppell + Bower + Shiel + Saad + 70k
I know it's big but I am clueless right now.... ::)
I'd go for the top selection, although I'd say there's a few better defender rookies then Beau Wilkes to select.
And maybe Selwood out for STANTON
Why do you want people to get Stanton? Why don't you keep it quiet and if he guns it, you will be the only person with him.
Thanks Jukes. I reckon Wilkes has easy got a spot in the best 21 of the Saints either as a key forward or back. He may only pull 50's and 60's but could be a 22 game a season bench keeper...?
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 04:40:30 PM
Thanks Jukes. I reckon Wilkes has easy got a spot in the best 21 of the Saints either as a key forward or back. He may only pull 50's and 60's but could be a 22 game a season bench keeper...?
Yeah he will play a lot but, from his NAB cup performances, looks like another Glass/Presti style player.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 12:06:33 AM
Quote from: tabs on March 01, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 01, 2012, 09:57:34 PM
lol this threads hasn't been very popular... I've done like half the Q's
atleast it helped your quota Whatlez
Hey Zip what do you think about Chappy and Stevie J, currently dont have ether as i have Goodes, Buddy and Pav. Would you select Chappy or Stevie J infront of Goodes, Buddy or Pav
well I pretty much answered this in my above post to colliwobs, but basically, I think chappy is seriously underpriced and stevie J overpriced. I don't think I would pick SJ over any of those, but would probably pick Chappy over goodes.
Cheers zipper,
Quote from: nathan11 on March 02, 2012, 03:48:55 PM
my trial score is 1026 should i be worried yet?
no, doesn't mean squat :)
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 03:52:45 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 03:48:17 PM
I would take Lids over Shaw but I managed to get both... Down to personal preference imo. Drop Birch for Shaw whatlez? Birch is a little more unstable imo as he hasn't been an elite backline premium for very long. I'd like to see how teams account for the Hawks possesion game plan. A man on man system may cut them down...
But I love Birchall lol. He's a personal favourite same Marc Murphy.
Oh yeah Zip What about this. Thoughts on Jeremy Cameron and Curley Hampton? And if what rd 11 bye players should I replace with? (Don't say Zorko)
Don't quite get the second part of the question. They're both reasonable, and will play a fair amount of games this season, but I don't see either of them having huge scoring potential. I feel kerridge and maybe even skinner could end up being better picks.
I'm on like 1127 :D
Zip should I get Birchall, Shaw or get Lake/Howard and then use the cash to upgrade Zorko to Brynes?
stevie J, fyfe, gray and deledio or
chapaman, dusty, sidey and scotland or
pav, dusty, robinson, scotland or
chapman, pav, dusty, deledio... expected player averages too (for those players) would be a great help, thanks :)
PS I have shaw and goddard, and buddy and goodes in already. This is pretty much the rest of the premiums haha
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 04:29:56 PM
Selwood + Wilkes + Darley + Boyd + Couch + 13k
OR
Swan + Heppell + Bower + Shiel + Saad + 70k
I know it's big but I am clueless right now.... ::)
I'm going the selwood + boyd combo.
Quote from: Jukes on March 02, 2012, 06:09:55 PM
Zip should I get Birchall, Shaw or get Lake/Howard and then use the cash to upgrade Zorko to Brynes?
no, go shaw and a rookie like zorko.
Quote from: Spite on March 02, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
stevie J, fyfe, gray and deledio or
chapaman, dusty, sidey and scotland or
pav, dusty, robinson, scotland or
chapman, pav, dusty, deledio... expected player averages too (for those players) would be a great help, thanks :)
PS I have shaw and goddard, and buddy and goodes in already. This is pretty much the rest of the premiums haha
1. no. Not a fan of fyfe, stevie J or gray this year. Fyfe to average 95, stevie J 100 and gray, it all depends if he has his season ending injury in the first quarter of round one or the fourth (actually that's a little harsh, but I dislike fyfe and stevieJ eitherway). Lids for a close to 100 average
2. Possible. Chapman 105, dusty 98, sidebottom 95 and scotland 98.
3. liking this one as well, pav for 100, dustin 98, robinson 95 as well, scotland 98.
4. this one's my favourite. Chappy 105, pav 100, dusty 98 and deledio pushing 100.
Thanks Zip. I should say that doing option 1 (Selwood + Boyd) Gives me a 5 premium midfield...
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 06:20:02 PM
Quote from: Spite on March 02, 2012, 06:14:01 PM
stevie J, fyfe, gray and deledio or
chapaman, dusty, sidey and scotland or
pav, dusty, robinson, scotland or
chapman, pav, dusty, deledio... expected player averages too (for those players) would be a great help, thanks :)
PS I have shaw and goddard, and buddy and goodes in already. This is pretty much the rest of the premiums haha
1. no. Not a fan of fyfe, stevie J or gray this year. Fyfe to average 95, stevie J 100 and gray, it all depends if he has his season ending injury in the first quarter of round one or the fourth (actually that's a little harsh, but I dislike fyfe and stevieJ eitherway). Lids for a close to 100 average
2. Possible. Chapman 105, dusty 98, sidebottom 95 and scotland 98.
3. liking this one as well, pav for 100, dustin 98, robinson 95 as well, scotland 98.
4. this one's my favourite. Chappy 105, pav 100, dusty 98 and deledio pushing 100.
Thanks zip, those averages look close to mine, but I would think Pav would be more of a ~96 average, I just see his move forward more risky because if freo are getting killed, well, he won't get near it, so I don't think he would be so consistent.
2) 396 total
3) 387 total with pav at 96
4) 399 with pav at 96
So I'm going for option 2 :P Reasoning is that deledio has a tough draw at first and I would rather upgrade to him and starting with a very high priced scotland is a great POD until everyone else gets him in :)
Thanks again zip!
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
Wow how are you scoring so high?
Zip I got plenty of mids to choose from.
I need to pick 4 from a list of 6.
Which 4?
Selwood
Swan
Pendlebury
Ablett
Murphy
Boyd
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:34:46 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
Wow how are you scoring so high?
cause my team is just that good mate, i could tell you who i have but a normal coach cant tell an experienced coach like you whatlez what to do... ;D
I really want a player who has the rd 11 bye (prem or mid pricer)
Who is the best choice? There is Adcock and Butler as high priced, or I can pick mid pricers like Howard or Hargrave. Who should I pick?
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:41:06 PM
I really want a player who has the rd 11 bye (prem or mid pricer)
Who is the best choice? There is Adcock and Butler as high priced, or I can pick mid pricers like Howard or Hargrave. Who should I pick?
I gather you mean in def?? What about Hurn, Bob Murphy (if he is a back)??
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:44:36 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:41:06 PM
I really want a player who has the rd 11 bye (prem or mid pricer)
Who is the best choice? There is Adcock and Butler as high priced, or I can pick mid pricers like Howard or Hargrave. Who should I pick?
I gather you mean in def?? What about Hurn, Bob Murphy (if he is a back)??
Yeah murphy is and I'm not sold on these players. There is no players from North, GWS, Lions, West Coast, Bulldogs and Crows players who are good defence.
Possibly Waters from WCE?
Otherwise in the fwd line there is Giansiracusa ;D
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 06:48:47 PM
Possibly Waters from WCE?
Otherwise in the fwd line there is Giansiracusa ;D
Those 6 teams suck in fwd/back line.
In fantasy terms? Yeah.
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
In fantasy terms? Yeah.
In the compeition take out WCE and they all suck. Don't hate me supporters of any of those clubs.
As long as you take out West Coast I am happy ;)
Another question while I'm here,
5 prem mids or upgrade a mid pricer and prem in other positions?
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
Another question while I'm here,
5 prem mids or upgrade a mid pricer and prem in other positions?
I have just done this. Gone to 3 prem mids, and got a prem back and fwd
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 07:02:39 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
Another question while I'm here,
5 prem mids or upgrade a mid pricer and prem in other positions?
I have just done this. Gone to 3 prem mids, and got a prem back and fwd
I meant have 5 prem mids or downgrade one and get a mid pricer in defence and a prem in the forwards? Sorry for the wording.
I can't see Barlow being a super-premium this year... Give me a bit of stick if I'm wrong but he just hasn't looked that good has he?
Quote from: elephants on March 02, 2012, 06:28:46 PM
Thanks Zip. I should say that doing option 1 (Selwood + Boyd) Gives me a 5 premium midfield...
option 2 then. 5 premo mids is way overloaded.
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
well, wilkes should be taking over dawsons role, so I rate his chances as pretty high. As for saad... honestly I don't know, I'd put it at 50.50 atm.
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Zip I got plenty of mids to choose from.
I need to pick 4 from a list of 6.
Which 4?
Selwood
Swan
Pendlebury
Ablett
Murphy
Boyd
Ablett, for obvious value
Selwood for underpricing
Swan for guness
Boyd for byes structure
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:41:06 PM
I really want a player who has the rd 11 bye (prem or mid pricer)
Who is the best choice? There is Adcock and Butler as high priced, or I can pick mid pricers like Howard or Hargrave. Who should I pick?
go for the midpricer. Adcock and Butler both have injury proneness, and have never been true premiums. Better punting on a cheapy like hargrave/ lake.
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:57:55 PM
Another question while I'm here,
5 prem mids or upgrade a mid pricer and prem in other positions?
go for the upgrade. I seriously don't like the look of a 5 premium mid. Imo even 4 is pushing it as top heavy.
Quote from: Doyle on March 02, 2012, 07:27:45 PM
I can't see Barlow being a super-premium this year... Give me a bit of stick if I'm wrong but he just hasn't looked that good has he?
his injury soreness has turned me off as well recently. If I'm hearing good reports come round 1, or he plays a NAB cup match, he might slot back in. ATM though... I still think if sore he'll be over a 100 average, but it's a question as to whether he'll play week in and out. If fully fit I can see him going elite.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 07:50:08 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
well, wilkes should be taking over dawsons role, so I rate his chances as pretty high. As for saad... honestly I don't know, I'd put it at 50.50 atm.
But he wont score that well as a tagger though will he???
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Zip I got plenty of mids to choose from.
I need to pick 4 from a list of 6.
Which 4?
Selwood
Swan
Pendlebury
Ablett
Murphy
Boyd
Ablett, for obvious value
Selwood for underpricing
Swan for guness
Boyd for byes structure
This is my make or break. At the moment I have murphy over Selwood, but I can above a 0 when it comes to rd 13 if I have Selwood.
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 08:01:03 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 07:50:08 PM
Quote from: tabs on March 02, 2012, 06:30:06 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:08:59 PM
I'm on like 1127 :D
1787 for me, hopefully my smokies get up.
Zip,
What are the changes that Saad and Wilkes for the aints will play R1??
well, wilkes should be taking over dawsons role, so I rate his chances as pretty high. As for saad... honestly I don't know, I'd put it at 50.50 atm.
But he wont score that well as a tagger though will he???
wilkes? if you got him in it would be for JS, he won't be pulling out the 80 average.
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 08:25:37 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 02, 2012, 07:50:50 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 02, 2012, 06:39:06 PM
Zip I got plenty of mids to choose from.
I need to pick 4 from a list of 6.
Which 4?
Selwood
Swan
Pendlebury
Ablett
Murphy
Boyd
Ablett, for obvious value
Selwood for underpricing
Swan for guness
Boyd for byes structure
This is my make or break. At the moment I have murphy over Selwood, but I can above a 0 when it comes to rd 13 if I have Selwood.
I prefer both selwoods price and scoring potential in comparison to murphy. I know others feel differently, but to me it looks like murphwill be topping out soon, if he hasnt already, while selwood is underpriced.
Saad or Milera? Both the same price and both play for the same team. At the moment I have Saad but I've been told by someone else to get Milera instead. Thoughts?
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 02, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Saad or Milera? Both the same price and both play for the same team. At the moment I have Saad but I've been told by someone else to get Milera instead. Thoughts?
whoever is named round one :P I doubt either will be prolific scorers in any case.
Tuning up Q number 3
Mumford, Jacobs (Giles , X)
What's your take on Jacobs? do you think that he could average 90+?
(Note: Player X depends on round 1)
as the only ruckman, and with his easy draw, I rate him to push 95.
whats your prediction on connors?
2 premium rucks or 1 premium 1 rook (starters).
I have done the maths and it works out more points will be scored in other lines by playing a rookie ruck than will be lost in the ruck, but i still don't feel comfortable doing it.
Zips thoughts?
I've just stumbled upon this topic and I have to say your thread along with Colliwobblers' has come up with some of the most intelligent fantasy discussion I've ever encountered. I think it's forced me to give my side several complete body reconstructions! So my question has to be have you guys both got massive brains? :o
I really don't think it's worth updating the index again, all yesterday i was at the Clipsal 500, and never came online, and i now see that 6 pages were covered during yesterday ::)
Thoughts Zip?? Do i bother updating the index??
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 03, 2012, 02:36:30 AM
whats your prediction on connors?
Honestly, I would like to see him get back to a 90+ average, just for DT, but I can't see it happening. I think even if he does cement himself in the team, 80 is all we'll see from him (and that's on the upper end).
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 03, 2012, 02:48:47 AM
2 premium rucks or 1 premium 1 rook (starters).
I have done the maths and it works out more points will be scored in other lines by playing a rookie ruck than will be lost in the ruck, but i still don't feel comfortable doing it.
Zips thoughts?
1 premium 1 rookie. Everyone is going to be having giles, and probably stephensen (despite his poor performance tonight). The only real POD is whether you choose to field one or not.
Quote from: cptFantasy on March 03, 2012, 06:16:06 AM
I've just stumbled upon this topic and I have to say your thread along with Colliwobblers' has come up with some of the most intelligent fantasy discussion I've ever encountered. I think it's forced me to give my side several complete body reconstructions! So my question has to be have you guys both got massive brains? :o
I'm a) a certified genius and
b) have little to no life :P
Quote from: PowerBug on March 03, 2012, 10:45:54 AM
I really don't think it's worth updating the index again, all yesterday i was at the Clipsal 500, and never came online, and i now see that 6 pages were covered during yesterday ::)
Thoughts Zip?? Do i bother updating the index??
update it. Laziest number one follower ever.
:P
Screw you.
:P
What will you give me if i do it??
an assistant coach for worlds who'll actually do work? :P
Hmmm, and if i don't??
you'll retain current assistant at current working level.
fine, you pick a playing side for our pre-season friendly against c4 and i'll start updating the pages. ;)
k
I got a question.
Why hasn't PB done his job haha.
good question considering I set his lineup :P
I'm watching the v8's :P
Connors won't average 90+ or 80+ for that matter Zip. Even if he is in your Euro's team ;)
Lads, Rocky and Treloar (injury?!?!?!) or Selwood and Smith?
Treloar/Smith will be fringe first team FORWARDS for me fighting with other rookies.
Selwood and Smith. Smith has been talked up in every bloody place by GWS, and selwoods scoring potential is more of a known quantity than rockys.
Zip what do you think about Dan Nicholson this year? I rate him and could really breakout. Thoughts?
Quote from: reesbr on March 03, 2012, 06:34:04 PM
Zip what do you think about Dan Nicholson this year? I rate him and could really breakout. Thoughts?
well he averaged nearly 60 taking out sub affected matches. And put up some relatively impressive numbers as one (28 points in a quarter, 40/50 points in a half), so like he's under priced and has potential. He *should* be upgraded as well.
at the same time, he hasn't really shown that much scoring potential a 90 against freo, but apart from that not many scores over 60. Quite consistent though.
I can't see him being a worthwhile pick however... I just don't see it happening this season.
Cheers zip. Matthew Bate?
Who do you think will be upgraded on to the Bombers list? They appear to have a few good options.
Thoughts on how many GWS rookies we should ideally have come round 1?
Currently have 6 in my team now (Darley, Bugg, Shiel, Giles, Cameron, D. Smith)
Only just traded...
McDonald OUT Hogan IN
Hampton OUT Cameron IN
Walsh OUT D. Smith IN
I think this is okay...? Thoughts?
Quote from: elephants on March 03, 2012, 07:13:46 PM
Thoughts on how many GWS rookies we should ideally have come round 1?
Currently have 6 in my team now (Darley, Bugg, Shiel, Giles, Cameron, D. Smith)
Only just traded...
McDonald OUT Hogan IN
Hampton OUT Cameron IN
Walsh OUT D. Smith IN
I think this is okay...? Thoughts?
Same as me, but bugg.
Quote from: reesbr on March 03, 2012, 06:54:45 PM
Cheers zip. Matthew Bate?
I'll do this one. Kepe an eye on his positions during pre-season, see where and how long he plays for. atm he's in my side as the only fwd mid-pricer, and pretty he'll stay there barring injury.
Quote from: Mr.Craig on March 03, 2012, 07:11:48 PM
Who do you think will be upgraded on to the Bombers list? They appear to have a few good options.
how many spots do they have again? 3? or two? I know gumbleton and prismall are on the LTI list, and fletcher is a vet....
honestly, I'm not sure. Dell'Olio I think is in for a shot, since essendons forwards aren't crash hot, but they may save the others until someone shines in vfl.
Quote from: PowerBug on March 03, 2012, 08:12:06 PM
Quote from: reesbr on March 03, 2012, 06:54:45 PM
Cheers zip. Matthew Bate?
I'll do this one. Kepe an eye on his positions during pre-season, see where and how long he plays for. atm he's in my side as the only fwd mid-pricer, and pretty he'll stay there barring injury.
pretty much, he's a high draft pick who has shown he can average solid before (80 odd), coming underpriced, with a decent pre-season, and at 25 should be primed as a break out.
Quote from: elephants on March 03, 2012, 07:13:46 PM
Thoughts on how many GWS rookies we should ideally have come round 1?
Currently have 6 in my team now (Darley, Bugg, Shiel, Giles, Cameron, D. Smith)
Only just traded...
McDonald OUT Hogan IN
Hampton OUT Cameron IN
Walsh OUT D. Smith IN
I think this is okay...? Thoughts?
wait until we find out mcdonalds TOG before you drop him imo. Apart from that, seems a LITTLE trigger happy, but solid enough. TBH you can have as many as you want, by GWS' bye you should have traded out most of your rooks anyway.
I've just done a few trades Zip want your opinion on which side is better;
a) Jacobs, Neale/Couch, forward rookie
b) McIntosh, Coniglio, Byrnes.
I'm going a) it looks pretty clear to me.
H Mac? Should I consider him after tonight and last week?
Thanks Zip.
Reasons behind trades.
1 - Hogan is younger and seems to have his position in a better outfit a bit more secure.
2 - Cameron looked super good both back and forward. Hampton is more a small fwd/half fwd flank therefore when GWS get hammered his DT output will severely suffer.
3 - D. Smith looked great and Walsh looked... well looked average DT wise. 28 in a half against the Roos isn't quite what I would expect from my rookies...
Quote from: whatlez on March 03, 2012, 10:32:02 PM
H Mac? Should I consider him after tonight and last week?
I think he always deserved some consideration, based on his price and potential.
certainly lock and load if goldy goes down.
but until then, keep monitoring.
pb, it's looking like I picked a decent team for you.
get your shower together. :P
k, am starting uni tomorrow. It's a 1.5 hr commute each way from mine, and since I'm doing science I have 5 days a week and 20 contact hours, so I dunno how I'm going to keep on top of my dting :(
dw about it. The DT stuff. :)
k, ya'll have half hour before sleep time for me :P
since uni is finished for the week, this is open again if anyone is interested.
if you had to pick any bombers players who are not Stanton, Watson or Zaharakis you would pick.......
Dell'Olio, if he gets promoted.
otherwise... ryder? shower, not much choice :P
Zip, Cloke and Morris or Pfeiffer and Deledio/Suckling?
pfeiffer and lids. Cloke, while being a beast, is a kpf, and if dawes fires he scores poorly. I don't feel like he has it in him for that 100+ ceiling either. I expect a 1-3 point average drop this year.
pfeiffer will outscore morris and probably has better JS, lids will outscore cloke by my estimate as well.
To start with Swan or to upgrade to him?
Thoughts on Dangerfield and Porps and Tom T. Lynch?
Thoughts on Luke Parker and starting with Goodes or looking to him as an upgrade?
Thanks mate.
Am i too light in my forward line with buddy,fyfe,martin and sidebottom with rest rooks?
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
To start with Swan or to upgrade to him?
Thoughts on Dangerfield and Porps and Tom T. Lynch?
Thoughts on Luke Parker and starting with Goodes or looking to him as an upgrade?
Thanks mate.
I'm going to say start with swan, unless you really need the cash and see some insane value in someone that you otherwise couldn't get. Fact is, he never performs in NAB cup, but is far ahead of all other people in DT points.
I like dangerfield, but I've never been burnt by him. He is scoring well in NAB cup and is entering break out age, he definitely needs consideration given his draw. Similar situation for porps, but he comes with such a hefty discount as well. As for lynch... he had a masssive half, and is discounted due to him being subbed. However, he was being subbed off, not subbed on last year, indicitive of underperforming and keep in mind he got 58 of his 70 points from scoring shots- unless you see him kicking 4-5 goals per match, probably be wary. Before today his points per 100 minutes was only 70. That being said, high draft picks (taken at 13 in 08) often bolt from nowhere. I would like to see a full game before I pick him.
Adelaide are shooting for the NAB finals right?
Parkers kind of similar to lynch, yeah he scored 84 today, but hasn't really been impressive in his other NAB cup outings. He could also be in there with a shot, but atm I'm still not seeing it.
I'm staunchly going for the upgrade to goodes option this year. I can't see him defying his history- against his first half opponents, or his slow starts.
Quote from: dicey7 on March 10, 2012, 12:53:56 AM
Am i too light in my forward line with buddy,fyfe,martin and sidebottom with rest rooks?
I don't think so. It would be pushing it though and you would want to be certain about your rooks. Personally I would prefer to balance it with another midpricer, even a cheap one like porps etc. but if you can't do it, and you think you have good scoring rooks with decent JS, then go for it.
This thread is back?
Zip what happened with goodes and swan. Do they look good? But shower?
Quote from: whatlez on March 10, 2012, 01:09:31 AM
This thread is back?
Zip what happened with goodes and swan. Do they look good? But shower?
Swan never fires pre-season, he just doesn't give a flying f, while goodes might be purposely holding back a bit- he is getting old, and there's no use risking it.
What about the Adelaide players, dangerfield and porps?
Zippy please just rate my team in general please and thank you sir.
Goddard, Deledio, Heppell, Gilbert, Grimes, Conca, Ellis - Bugg, Smedts
Pendals, Rock/redden, Sloane, Neale, C.Smith, Shiel - Magner, Gibson
Mumford, Jacobs - giles Pattinson
Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Goodes, Lewis, Dangermouse, D.Smith - Kennedy T.Couch
Quote from: dubizzy on March 10, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
Zippy please just rate my team in general please and thank you sir.
Goddard, Deledio, Heppell, Gilbert, Grimes, Conca, Ellis - Bugg, Smedts
Pendals, Rock/redden, Sloane, Neale, C.Smith, Shiel - Magner, Gibson
Mumford, Jacobs - giles Pattinson
Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Goodes, Lewis, Dangermouse, D.Smith - Kennedy T.Couch
in general, its solid enough.
Backs: I think you took too many risks with gilbert, grimes and conca. I really think 2 kind of midpricers/ undervalued premos should be the max. in any line.
Mids: I like it quite a lot. I'd prefer ablett to pendles- he's cheaper and will score more, rockliff I love the look of and think he'll breaj out more this year, sloane is looking the goods, and your rooks are solid
rucks: *maybe* mcevoy instead of mumford, but those 3 are the ones I would be looking for in rucks. I would prefer someone like jenkins to pattinson- he's more likely to get games.
fwds: franklin and martin are standard. I'm not a huge fan of fyfe, I doubt he'll have another big year, dangerfield could seriously break ut this year and is really tempting. Goodes I'd prefer as an upgrade target- despite his easy draw, he doesnt average much vs his early opponents. Lewis is a really interesting unique who could pay off- 90 is all but guarenteed, although I only rate him at an outside chance of 100.
all in all, I'm going with a 7.5 out of 10. You've taken too many risks in the backline, I don't think you've optimised your ruck cover, while you've missed out on ablett in the mids which is insane. And not a fan of goodes/ fyfe to start with :P
Quote from: whatlez on March 10, 2012, 01:59:31 AM
What about the Adelaide players, dangerfield and porps?
How did Dangerfield and Porps go to score 80's each?
Why are you telling people to pick Dangerfield? Let them figure it out themselves!
Quote from: whatlez on March 10, 2012, 01:24:19 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 10, 2012, 01:59:31 AM
What about the Adelaide players, dangerfield and porps?
How did Dangerfield and Porps go to score 80's each?
well I didn't see this game personally, but presumably they did pretty decent. They did deliver a flogging to a pies B side though.
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on March 10, 2012, 01:32:12 PM
Why are you telling people to pick Dangerfield? Let them figure it out themselves!
why not? it's the purpose of this topic after all :P
LOL BB,
I think Zip is giving genuine good advice, the day you see Zip write GET ON ZAKA you know not to trust him anymore :)
are you feeling like your criticism of Zaka is even more justified after last night Zip ?
1. Thoughts on Porps at $200k ish...
2. Thoughts on Thomo after last night?
3. Thoughts on sidebottom - for mine another serviceable solid outing for him, but is solid going to get premium?
4. Thoughts on Jacobs after last night - starting one of jacobs/mcevoy
5. Thoughts on my round 3 NAB cup changes (so far)
being
Thompson (out) Boyd (in) Thinking with sloane and danger lifting it wont be all up to thomo he wont score as much.
Zaharakis (out) Dangerfield (in) zaka looked like a muppett, danger looked like a gun.
Pfieffer (out) Porps (in) - this one is far from locked in thinking the rook still but have allocated money for porps.
Further reasoning for changes = crows draw isn't going to make it hard for them to perform and the new coach = BETTER....
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 10, 2012, 02:06:49 PM
LOL BB,
I think Zip is giving genuine good advice, the day you see Zip write GET ON ZAKA you know not to trust him anymore :)
are you feeling like your criticism of Zaka is even more justified after last night Zip ?
I called it early, and I'm maintaining my call.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 10, 2012, 02:12:08 PM
1. Thoughts on Porps at $200k ish...
2. Thoughts on Thomo after last night?
3. Thoughts on sidebottom - for mine another serviceable solid outing for him, but is solid going to get premium?
4. Thoughts on my round 3 NAB cup changes (so far)
being
Thompson (out) Boyd (in)
Zaharakis (out) Dangerfield (in)
1. porps should be considered. He's not really *that * much of a risk when it comes down to it at his price, and he's been looking very good.
2. I'm not actually taking much out of NAB cup for premiums- we know thompson can play, it's NAB cup, lets face it swanny hasn't been amazing either and he's still a beast.
3. He's been looking pretty good, definitely up there as a contender for my team.
4. What do you mean changes? like who's been dropped etc.? I would look into it a bit differently than others- for instance, some players who did very well last week aren't playing this week- if they're fringe players that makes me feel more confident abut it, it means they've been locked in for round 1, and they don't need to impress their clubs any more. If a rookie is getting their first game, that doesn't really tickle my pickle- lets face it, if they were in the mix for the team they would have debut already.
if you mean changes like score wise, there havent been that many tbh :P Ryder I find interesting , got about 100 points not counting his frees (due to the NAB ruck rule, not applicable in H/A). People judge me for it, but I've been saying for a while he could be a really sneaky ruck option.
Sorry I meant change to MY team (listed below).
Thompson (out) Boyd (in) Thinking with sloane and danger lifting it wont be all up to thomo he wont score as much.
Zaharakis (out) Dangerfield (in) zaka looked like a muppett, danger looked like a gun.
Pfieffer (out) Porps (in) - this one is far from locked in thinking the rook still but have allocated money for porps.
Still won't risk Ryder in my DT or SC rucks, but locked him in my sportbet squad with kruze (12 points a goal)
hey zip what are your thoughts on this. I've had sidebottom in and out of my side, and is out atm cos i just can't see him improving. he played pretty much all midfield last year, and this year will be no different. nothing in the collingwood midfield has changed and thus I'm wondering where the extra points will come from, so that he will lift his average by around 10 ppg. so i pretty much see him plateauing this season, unless of course there is a LTI to one of their mids as in swan, thomas, ball, pendles etc
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 10, 2012, 02:38:56 PM
Sorry I meant change to MY team (listed below).
Thompson (out) Boyd (in) Thinking with sloane and danger lifting it wont be all up to thomo he wont score as much.
Zaharakis (out) Dangerfield (in) zaka looked like a muppett, danger looked like a gun.
Pfieffer (out) Porps (in) - this one is far from locked in thinking the rook still but have allocated money for porps.
Still won't risk Ryder in my DT or SC rucks, but locked him in my sportbet squad with kruze (12 points a goal)
yeah fair enough changed I guess. I mean the thompson call is a bit iffy, but tbh I see boyd outscoring him anyway.
we have the same sports bet ruck line :P
Quote from: azza707 on March 10, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
hey zip what are your thoughts on this. I've had sidebottom in and out of my side, and is out atm cos i just can't see him improving. he played pretty much all midfield last year, and this year will be no different. nothing in the collingwood midfield has changed and thus I'm wondering where the extra points will come from, so that he will lift his average by around 10 ppg. so i pretty much see him plateauing this season, unless of course there is a LTI to one of their mids as in swan, thomas, ball, pendles etc
he mustn't have played all midfield last year or he wouldn't have been awarded mpp status- VS/CD do position changes based on the % you played in each position. + Buckley has touted him for more midfield time, so he must have been spending time up front. He's another year older, and about ready to break out from past DT history- he only really needs to add a handful of kicks to become a worthwhile keeper in the forward line. Probably wouldn't touch him in the mids, but as a forward... definitely needs to be considered.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 10, 2012, 03:21:24 PM
Quote from: azza707 on March 10, 2012, 03:06:04 PM
hey zip what are your thoughts on this. I've had sidebottom in and out of my side, and is out atm cos i just can't see him improving. he played pretty much all midfield last year, and this year will be no different. nothing in the collingwood midfield has changed and thus I'm wondering where the extra points will come from, so that he will lift his average by around 10 ppg. so i pretty much see him plateauing this season, unless of course there is a LTI to one of their mids as in swan, thomas, ball, pendles etc
he mustn't have played all midfield last year or he wouldn't have been awarded mpp status- VS/CD do position changes based on the % you played in each position. + Buckley has touted him for more midfield time, so he must have been spending time up front. He's another year older, and about ready to break out from past DT history- he only really needs to add a handful of kicks to become a worthwhile keeper in the forward line. Probably wouldn't touch him in the mids, but as a forward... definitely needs to be considered.
mm true, he did go to the half forward flanks for a few stints in games, but mostly saw him running around on the wing. but i see where your coming. atm I'm trying to decide between him and jordan lewis. really cannot pick between the two.
also what are your thoughts on jed adcock. almost no talk about him around here. currently locked in as my 4th back. played last year with a broken hand towards the middle of the season and when merret went down it really hurt his scores. if the brisbane back line stays injury can see the lions wanting to get him into the midfield. reckon he could push for a 95 avg this year, if he doesn't have to do a broughton and go back to defence to help out due ti injuries.
yeeesh, he's definitely a possibility...
at the same time however the lions backline is riddled with injury prone players, and that actually includes adcock.
I admire him for playing for more than a month with a broken hand, but fully priced I can't really justify him.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 10, 2012, 01:04:33 AM
Quote from: elephants on March 10, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
To start with Swan or to upgrade to him?
Thoughts on Dangerfield and Porps and Tom T. Lynch?
Thoughts on Luke Parker and starting with Goodes or looking to him as an upgrade?
Thanks mate.
I'm going to say start with swan, unless you really need the cash and see some insane value in someone that you otherwise couldn't get. Fact is, he never performs in NAB cup, but is far ahead of all other people in DT points.
I like dangerfield, but I've never been burnt by him. He is scoring well in NAB cup and is entering break out age, he definitely needs consideration given his draw. Similar situation for porps, but he comes with such a hefty discount as well. As for lynch... he had a masssive half, and is discounted due to him being subbed. However, he was being subbed off, not subbed on last year, indicitive of underperforming and keep in mind he got 58 of his 70 points from scoring shots- unless you see him kicking 4-5 goals per match, probably be wary. Before today his points per 100 minutes was only 70. That being said, high draft picks (taken at 13 in 08) often bolt from nowhere. I would like to see a full game before I pick him.
Adelaide are shooting for the NAB finals right?
Parkers kind of similar to lynch, yeah he scored 84 today, but hasn't really been impressive in his other NAB cup outings. He could also be in there with a shot, but atm I'm still not seeing it.
I'm staunchly going for the upgrade to goodes option this year. I can't see him defying his history- against his first half opponents, or his slow starts.
Awesome, cheers mate. Starting to agree with you on Goodes...
keep in mind, dont just judge him off NAB cup form- he's a premium and it's just stupid to do so, unless he's clearly had a positional change or appears injury hampered.
Yeah I had some issues picking him initially due to age, role and his scoring ability in the wet... I could save the 150k and get Dangermouse.
Not out of contention but no longer in my team.
priddis or murphy?
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 12, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
priddis or murphy?
murphy hands down. If you're strapped for cash though, I'd take A swallow over priddis.
Rioli? Sylvia? Thoughts?
I need to get rid of ROK and I am short of options :P
sylvia, no, not with his suspension... if he was a possible break out player like ziebell, maybe. But as already premium priced. Nup.
Rioli... damn... it all depends how long his hammies hold. Hawks have been working on fixing his running though haven't they? like what the cats did with chappy? This is, imo, one of his last years to break out, if it doesn't happen soon it never will.
I don't know what to do :-X
kerridge or Pfeiffer?
panos, horlin smith or couch?
pfeiffer and couch.
Thoughts on Shiel, Zorko and Treloar. Do we wait for them or of not named round 1 are not in our teams...?
maybe zorko. Shiel and treloar I would wait on.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 12, 2012, 08:18:30 PM
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 12, 2012, 08:14:20 PM
priddis or murphy?
murphy hands down. If you're strapped for cash though, I'd take A swallow over priddis.
Sorry n00bsauce, but Ziplock has forgotten that i also take part in this thread. He means to say Priddis all the way! :P
Pretty sure I know which one I'm going with, but I'll ask Zip just in case;
Masten + Birchall + Porplyzia
or
Swan + Clarke + Pfeiffer
if you have ablett and any other player averaging over 115 in your mids, go option one. Just more upside and more interesting :P
Yeah I got Ablett, Boyd, Rocky and Stanton in the mids and they will all imo average 115. Masten and Porp very risky but I can see enough upside to go with them.
What do you think of Docherty? And is Magner playing R1? Are there any good rookie DEF/FWD besides Smedts.
how is the JS for Koby stevens?
Will Jacob Brennan and Blayne Wilson from West Coast make it into the side?
Who of...
J. McCarthy, C. Masten, A. Gaff or B. Ebert would make the best sub 300k option in the midfield.
Is it worth picking ANY of these guys? Cheers.
Quote from: elephants on March 13, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Who of...
J. McCarthy, C. Masten, A. Gaff or B. Ebert would make the best sub 300k option in the midfield.
Is it worth picking ANY of these guys? Cheers.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine?
Quote from: Master Q on March 13, 2012, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 13, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Who of...
J. McCarthy, C. Masten, A. Gaff or B. Ebert would make the best sub 300k option in the midfield.
Is it worth picking ANY of these guys? Cheers.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine?
Bit hypocritical that you want noone to answer in your thread but you but its alright here :P
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on March 13, 2012, 11:12:27 PM
Quote from: Master Q on March 13, 2012, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 13, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Who of...
J. McCarthy, C. Masten, A. Gaff or B. Ebert would make the best sub 300k option in the midfield.
Is it worth picking ANY of these guys? Cheers.
I'll answer yours if you answer mine?
Bit hypocritical that you want noone to answer in your thread but you but its alright here :P
1. Zip is missing 2. In PM ;) 3. I need an answer ASAP! :P
Robert Murphy as a unique?
Quote from: Master Q on March 12, 2012, 10:27:19 PM
What do you think of Docherty? And is Magner playing R1? Are there any good rookie DEF/FWD besides Smedts.
Still injured as far as I know? And I dunno, I'm rating magner as 50/50 at this stage- I still think he'll be elevated ftr and slot into scully's spot. Tomlinson maybe? not many options out there.
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 13, 2012, 09:14:36 PM
how is the JS for Koby stevens?
Will Jacob Brennan and Blayne Wilson from West Coast make it into the side?
I can see stevens copping the vest a little this year (as in like 5+ games), I dont think he'll play over 15 either.
brennan and wilson probably wont even play 15 games combined.
Quote from: elephants on March 13, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Who of...
J. McCarthy, C. Masten, A. Gaff or B. Ebert would make the best sub 300k option in the midfield.
Is it worth picking ANY of these guys? Cheers.
yeeesh, I'd be worried about most of them. If I had to order them... Gaff>Masten> Ebert > McCarthy
but if you could afford it I would be putting palmer before masten :P
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 14, 2012, 08:09:28 PM
Robert Murphy as a unique?
not a fan, has only avgd near premium level once, nearly a half decade ago
pass.
what do ya reckon about leigh adams?
Quote from: fattony on March 14, 2012, 08:39:14 PM
what do ya reckon about leigh adams?
he's a possibility, and would be a sneaky unique, but at the same time at that price he's *almost* premium, and you're fielding him over your martins, sidebottoms etc, that, while being more generic, are looking like better picks. I don't feel like he has the ceiling for a premo fwd.
Couch. Will he play?
2nd elevation for melbourne.
horlin-smith?
been looking at Geelongs small forwards and it looks like he might get the opportunity-
Stevie J
Chapman (runs through the midfield)
Stokes (plays midfield sometimes aswell)
Varcoe (Injuried) thanks whatlez
Christensen (midfield)
Menzel (Injured)
Byrnes (form hasn't been great)
Motlop (does he get select?)
Don't know if this has been covered or not, but will you be having Magner even though a) he's injured and b) he's rookie listed
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 14, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
horlin-smith?
been looking at Geelongs small forwards and it looks like he might get the opportunity-
Stevie J
Chapman (runs through the midfield)
Stokes (plays midfield sometimes aswell)
Varcoe (Injured*)
Christensen (midfield)
Menzel (Injured)
Byrnes (form hasn't been great)
Motlop (does he get select?)
Your opinion on Sandilands? Is he as good as he was since the accursed Turf Toe...?
Is Cox worth his 530k price tag over someone like Jacobs for 430k?
Quote from: n00bsauce on March 14, 2012, 11:04:10 PM
horlin-smith?
been looking at Geelongs small forwards and it looks like he might get the opportunity-
Stevie J
Chapman (runs through the midfield)
Stokes (plays midfield sometimes aswell)
Varcoe (Injuried) thanks whatlez
Christensen (midfield)
Menzel (Injured)
Byrnes (form hasn't been great)
Motlop (does he get select?)
I'm sick atm so my brain isn't working that well. But honestly, I don't know on this one. I would think there are better options out there though.
Quote from: Jackina on March 15, 2012, 09:31:23 PM
Your opinion on Sandilands? Is he as good as he was since the accursed Turf Toe...?
I think he'll be as good as always, but injuries are always a concern with him. Other options mean that I would personally overlook him, esp. since he picked up a pre-season injury.
Quote from: Doyle on March 15, 2012, 08:57:20 PM
Don't know if this has been covered or not, but will you be having Magner even though a) he's injured and b) he's rookie listed
all comes down to if he's promoted. His isn't a very long injury, so if melbourne have him promoted before round one, then he'll probably be playing early, even if not named round 1. Then, jump on :P
Quote from: elephants on March 16, 2012, 02:06:55 AM
Is Cox worth his 530k price tag over someone like Jacobs for 430k?
Personally, I don't think so :P
I can still see cox's average slipping 5 points, and I think jacobs, with natural progression and an easy draw, will increase his average substantially.
I'm not a fan of top tier premos :P
Starting T.campbell as 4th ruck regardless of whether his elevated with cox redden giles combo?
Do you rate McEvoy? The boy on DT Talk are crazy about him, and I actually have him on my team and I think he's going to flourish this year.
Quote from: owenbond007 on March 16, 2012, 05:38:13 PM
Starting T.campbell as 4th ruck regardless of whether his elevated with cox redden giles combo?
not a massive fan. He has 3 rucks ahead of him, and it's not like he has any characteristics that dominate over them.
find the money to fork out for someone like jenkins, who mighten't be in weekly but should get more than a handful of games unlike campbell. Cheapskate :P
Quote from: Doyle on March 16, 2012, 06:43:51 PM
Do you rate McEvoy? The boy on DT Talk are crazy about him, and I actually have him on my team and I think he's going to flourish this year.
Well, he is the number one ruck, with no real competition. Kosi can pinch hit, but shouldn't be stealing too many point. I'd actually prefer jacobs in that price range, but if you're going for value premos, then it's really him, jacobs or mumford who should be on your radar.
combo question for you
Grimes/Malceski (have both at the moment) + Fyfe + Porplyzia + Gibson (roos) + 40k
or
luke brown + Gray + Couch + Pendles
already have a strong midfield with ablett, boyd, swan, selwood but pendles is looking like a gun
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
combo question for you
Grimes/Malceski (have both at the moment) + Fyfe + Porplyzia + Gibson (roos) + 40k
or
luke brown + Gray + Couch + Pendles
already have a strong midfield with ablett, boyd, swan, selwood but pendles is looking like a gun
tbh, dislike both of them. Option one is ridiculously risky, with grimes/ malceski both with injury concerns, fyfe with some as well, and porps...
option 2- does brown even look like being in adelaides best yet? Couch is solid enough, should get games, pendles is a fine pick, and gray could go either way (but more likely to fail playing for port).
Honestly... I'm going for two, but I really dislike both options.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
combo question for you
Grimes/Malceski (have both at the moment) + Fyfe + Porplyzia + Gibson (roos) + 40k
or
luke brown + Gray + Couch + Pendles
already have a strong midfield with ablett, boyd, swan, selwood but pendles is looking like a gun
tbh, dislike both of them. Option one is ridiculously risky, with grimes/ malceski both with injury concerns, fyfe with some as well, and porps...
option 2- does brown even look like being in adelaides best yet? Couch is solid enough, should get games, pendles is a fine pick, and gray could go either way (but more likely to fail playing for port).
Honestly... I'm going for two, but I really dislike both options.
i actually agree im keeping grimes and malceski but dropped porplyzia for crouch, fyfe for gray and turned hmac into cox
my queston with already Pav, franklin, martin and sidebottom who would you pick as your 5th forward (no goodes) and who do you trsut as your back premiums i have lids goddard and sahw and have no confidence in any others so that why im getting eski and grimes
Malceski isn't even in the Swans 22
Bad choice IMO. Nothing like what he was in 2010
Quote from: TheMailman on March 16, 2012, 07:38:42 PM
Malceski isn't even in the Swans 22
Bad choice IMO. Nothing like what he was in 2010
what makes you say that is named this week and has been very solid in the nab
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
combo question for you
Grimes/Malceski (have both at the moment) + Fyfe + Porplyzia + Gibson (roos) + 40k
or
luke brown + Gray + Couch + Pendles
already have a strong midfield with ablett, boyd, swan, selwood but pendles is looking like a gun
tbh, dislike both of them. Option one is ridiculously risky, with grimes/ malceski both with injury concerns, fyfe with some as well, and porps...
option 2- does brown even look like being in adelaides best yet? Couch is solid enough, should get games, pendles is a fine pick, and gray could go either way (but more likely to fail playing for port).
Honestly... I'm going for two, but I really dislike both options.
i actually agree im keeping grimes and malceski but dropped porplyzia for crouch, fyfe for gray and turned hmac into cox
my queston with already Pav, franklin, martin and sidebottom who would you pick as your 5th forward (no goodes) and who do you trsut as your back premiums i have lids goddard and sahw and have no confidence in any others so that why im getting eski and grimes
so someone cheaper than sidebottom or anyone? If anyone, chapman :P If cheaper than sidebottom... green could be a sneaky unique?
keep in mind, either of there could be great POD players or failures :P
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:41:36 PM
Quote from: TheMailman on March 16, 2012, 07:38:42 PM
Malceski isn't even in the Swans 22
Bad choice IMO. Nothing like what he was in 2010
what makes you say that is named this week and has been very solid in the nab
Honestly, Swans have better backline without him.
He isn't really in any sort of form. Being named against GC isn't any special feat. A bench player at best
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 07:42:50 PM
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:35:11 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 07:24:59 PM
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 07:07:10 PM
combo question for you
Grimes/Malceski (have both at the moment) + Fyfe + Porplyzia + Gibson (roos) + 40k
or
luke brown + Gray + Couch + Pendles
already have a strong midfield with ablett, boyd, swan, selwood but pendles is looking like a gun
tbh, dislike both of them. Option one is ridiculously risky, with grimes/ malceski both with injury concerns, fyfe with some as well, and porps...
option 2- does brown even look like being in adelaides best yet? Couch is solid enough, should get games, pendles is a fine pick, and gray could go either way (but more likely to fail playing for port).
Honestly... I'm going for two, but I really dislike both options.
i actually agree im keeping grimes and malceski but dropped porplyzia for crouch, fyfe for gray and turned hmac into cox
my queston with already Pav, franklin, martin and sidebottom who would you pick as your 5th forward (no goodes) and who do you trsut as your back premiums i have lids goddard and sahw and have no confidence in any others so that why im getting eski and grimes
so someone cheaper than sidebottom or anyone? If anyone, chapman :P If cheaper than sidebottom... green could be a sneaky unique?
keep in mind, either of there could be great POD players or failures :P
well im open to picking anyone if i can see ture premiums to upgrade too i will downgrade cox to hmac and spend the 265k upgrading gray, malceski and grimes. I just cant see a solid player i know will pump out premium likes socres.
If i gave you 265k and said upgrade those 3 what would you do
no lids, goddard,shaw, franklin, pav, martin, sidebottom
malc to waters, grimes to heppell/ broughton/ hanley, gray to chapman
I think that fits?
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
malc to waters, grimes to heppell/ broughton/ hanley, gray to chapman
I think that fits?
it does but eski to scotland and gray to chapman also fits
The thread continues!!
So Zip Heath Shaw, worth the cash? Or is Broughton a better option.
Quote from: Holzman on March 16, 2012, 08:07:55 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 08:03:20 PM
malc to waters, grimes to heppell/ broughton/ hanley, gray to chapman
I think that fits?
it does but eski to scotland and gray to chapman also fits
well then do that :P
Quote from: whatlez on March 16, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
The thread continues!!
So Zip Heath Shaw, worth the cash? Or is Broughton a better option.
yeah, I think he's worth it.
that all you need? clear cut for me. Shaw is less risk if you brought Shaw over Broughton.
ha.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 16, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
The thread continues!!
So Zip Heath Shaw, worth the cash? Or is Broughton a better option.
yeah, I think he's worth it.
that all you need? clear cut for me. Shaw is less risk if you brought Shaw over Broughton.
ha.
Well I got Shaw at the moment, just not that happy with his first half today. Only 21.
Ok another, Marty Clarke, he looks alright, worth it?
What was up with McEvoy? I know it's only pre-season, but wtf?
Quote from: whatlez on March 16, 2012, 08:43:18 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 08:40:09 PM
Quote from: whatlez on March 16, 2012, 08:16:56 PM
The thread continues!!
So Zip Heath Shaw, worth the cash? Or is Broughton a better option.
yeah, I think he's worth it.
that all you need? clear cut for me. Shaw is less risk if you brought Shaw over Broughton.
ha.
Well I got Shaw at the moment, just not that happy with his first half today. Only 21.
Ok another, Marty Clarke, he looks alright, worth it?
I think what you should focus on is his second half :P
I think clarkes still worthy of consideration- personally I still think he'll float into the pies 22. However, it looks like his scoring isn't going to be amazing. Despite what people might say, I think he's worth the shot for decent JS.
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 16, 2012, 08:50:01 PM
What was up with McEvoy? I know it's only pre-season, but wtf?
god knows, I obviously didn't see the game either. If I had to guess, he spent a lot of time on the bench. That combined with the NAB rules deflating tap ruck scores means his scoring would have been ridiculously low, especially if he was off form.
Quote from: Ziplock on March 16, 2012, 08:52:04 PM
Quote from: Chelskiman on March 16, 2012, 08:50:01 PM
What was up with McEvoy? I know it's only pre-season, but wtf?
god knows, I obviously didn't see the game either. If I had to guess, he spent a lot of time on the bench. That combined with the NAB rules deflating tap ruck scores means his scoring would have been ridiculously low, especially if he was off form.
He was on 26 before half time, so he must of been injured. Surely a ruckman had to get a hitout in more than half a game of footy.
maybe had a tweak and was being rested since NAB means squat?
still not keen on gray after his 112 and counting tonight
yep
you see how pathetic melbourne was?
Quote from: Ziplock on March 17, 2012, 12:16:49 AM
yep
you see how pathetic melbourne was?
not looking good for grimes than
he plays defence... just means there'll be more opportunity for him to get it :P
Deledio + J. Cameron vs Hargrave + Dangerfield.
Quote from: elephants on March 17, 2012, 04:12:04 AM
Deledio + J. Cameron vs Hargrave + Dangerfield.
i will step in for this one danger and hargreave by a mile. I can see hargreave going within 20 points of lids i cant see cameron doing the same. Also with the second option you almost have 100% job security.
Cheers Holz.
Really want to see how Lids plays and if we can possibly look an a very early upgrade from a rookie bolter... say round 5-6 would be nice...
Quote from: elephants on March 17, 2012, 04:27:41 AM
Cheers Holz.
Really want to see how Lids plays and if we can possibly look an a very early upgrade from a rookie bolter... say round 5-6 would be nice...
im actually second guessing danger after looking at last year scores but i really like Hargreaves. Saying that i have lids and Hargreaves and just dropped danger and cameron
Difference between this year and last year for Danger is a new coach who will actually play him in his preferred position... In the guts. That along with natural improvement should see a big year!
Quote from: Holzman on March 17, 2012, 04:25:35 AM
Quote from: elephants on March 17, 2012, 04:12:04 AM
Deledio + J. Cameron vs Hargrave + Dangerfield.
i will step in for this one danger and hargreave by a mile. I can see hargreave going within 20 points of lids i cant see cameron doing the same. Also with the second option you almost have 100% job security.
I pretty much agree :P
Hey Zip! got a few things :D
1. your thoughts on Birchall vs Broughton vs Adcock :) strengths, weaknesses and a ranking in order!
2. Thoughts on GWS boys Adam Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliot, Cameron and Clifton?
3. Best 4 premium midfielders to start with from Pendles, Boyd, GAJ, Murphy, Mitchell, Thompson :) (preferably in order)
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on March 18, 2012, 12:11:31 AM
Hey Zip! got a few things :D
1. your thoughts on Birchall vs Broughton vs Adcock :) strengths, weaknesses and a ranking in order!
2. Thoughts on GWS boys Adam Tomlinson, Hoskin-Elliot, Cameron and Clifton?
3. Best 4 premium midfielders to start with from Pendles, Boyd, GAJ, Murphy, Mitchell, Thompson :) (preferably in order)
uuurrrg a huge one. :P
1.to start with I'm eliminating birchall- he only got near quasi premium status after playing for quite some time, purely because of a game plan change. Pass based on that, not a fan.
Broughton- can potentially average 100+ if released as a midfielder, but as a defender will only hit around the 70s. Considering he's been training with the mid group, and playing mid mostly in NAB, I think that's ok for now. That being said, he's been playing in a team without mundy or barlow. Your call on that :P
Adcock- Injury prone, will play with injury (which is if anything worse), and can be given negating shut down roles. Basically, similar to Broughton for pros/ cons, except brisbane have a far fuller + fitter midfield, and adcock is injury prone.
in order, broughts > adcock > birchall
2. Tomlinson- could score well, but will probs be subjected to the vest- dunno if he's quite in the 21
HE-man is overpriced
Cameron- he'll go completely missing sometimes playing as a key forward
clifton- honestly, I think he's over priced as well. He'll do ok, and has reasonable JS, but won't set the world on fire imo.
3. not counting structure? GAJ, boyd, pendles, thompson.
I would rate gibbs and rockliff on par, if not above thompson (even taking into account his soft draw)
Are you going with a 1-3 premo-rookie combo in the ruck, the 2-2, with two premos and two rookies or the mid-pricer and the premo?
hey zip my question is can you please answer my pm i just sent you asap???
Hey Zip, thoughts on Watson and Gray vs. Selwood/Thompson and Dangerfield? Thanks.
Thoughts on Bernie Vince as a severely under-priced midfield option??
Quote from: elephants on March 18, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
Thoughts on Bernie Vince as a severely under-priced midfield option??
Played well. He really needed to bounce back after his embarrassing off field issues.
Yeah I rate him. Good player, shouldn't be tagged with Thompson and Van Berlo running around?
thanks heaps zip! :D really informative, very much appreciated!
Quote from: Doyle on March 18, 2012, 12:50:46 AM
Are you going with a 1-3 premo-rookie combo in the ruck, the 2-2, with two premos and two rookies or the mid-pricer and the premo?
nope :P
none of them :P
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on March 18, 2012, 12:52:13 AM
hey zip my question is can you please answer my pm i just sent you asap???
nuppp! need more thinking time :P
Quote from: elephants on March 18, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
Thoughts on Bernie Vince as a severely under-priced midfield option??
certainly a viable option, he doesn't fit into my structure, but he's averaged over 100 before from memory. Had his hands in a lot last night.
Quote from: lollipop man on March 18, 2012, 01:10:16 AM
Hey Zip, thoughts on Watson and Gray vs. Selwood/Thompson and Dangerfield? Thanks.
I'd prefer thompson and danger. You really maximise the draw with those two, while everyone else has question marks- selwood plays a concussion friendly football, watson and gray just can't stay fit, and gray plays for port on top of that :P