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Poll
Question: Who to go with as my 3rd midfielder?
Option 1: Pendlebury votes: 13
Option 2: Rockliff votes: 4
Option 3: Boyd votes: 3
Option 4: Mitchell votes: 4
Option 5: Murphy votes: 4
Option 6: Selwood votes: 12
Option 7: Redden votes: 1
Option 8: Gibbs votes: 1
Option 9: Stanton votes: 0
Option 10: Priddis votes: 2
Option 11: Dal Santo votes: 0
Option 12: Montagna votes: 0
Option 13: Barlow votes: 2
Option 14: Someone else??? votes: 2
Title: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2012, 01:36:05 AM
Okay so here we are. My current midfield is...

Swan, Ablett, _____, Rocky or Thommo, Clifton, Shiel (Mitchell, Treloar)

I need to know who to make as third midfielder AND who to go with out of Thommo or Rocky.

Can you guys please whack a vote in the poll for my third mid and leave a comment for Rocky vs Thommo?

Thanking you!

P.S - I can afford ANYONE here. I am looking for the midfielder who will score the most points over the season.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: popedelio on February 06, 2012, 01:45:49 AM
rockliff over thommo because of his mighty ass crazy bonanza second half to the season :)
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2012, 01:50:52 AM
Quote from: popedelio on February 06, 2012, 01:45:49 AM
rockliff over thommo because of his mighty ass crazy bonanza second half to the season :)
Hahah thanks mate. I think his end of the season was incredulous but Thommo's draw is :o
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Tom_16 on February 06, 2012, 01:48:43 PM
In a similar situation my self as i'm tossing up for my 3rd mid. My current mid premos are ablett, rocky,________, barlow. Leaning towards selwood this stage as he will probably avg 110-115.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Justin Bieber on February 06, 2012, 02:50:05 PM
You have to go with Marc Murphy. Mr consistant and will dominate this year with Judd getting even more dominated than usual.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: popedelio on February 06, 2012, 04:55:20 PM
let me make you decision easy with a quick number crunch of the players i picked in this thread

Gibbs
rds 13-24 (11 games)
avg: 115.45 sd 19.2
About 3 articles on him that he is going to explode this season

Rockliff
rd 13-24 (11 games)
avg:120.63 sd: 13.55 (REALLY CONSISTENT!!)
didn't score below 100 in this 11 game spread

Both are undervalued for what they can do, finished 2011 with a bang, not much else I can say
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Flame on February 06, 2012, 05:12:08 PM
I've gone with Thommo LE..
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Kuruki on February 06, 2012, 05:19:27 PM
I really dont think it matters mate. They all have upsides. Aslong as you have 2 of Ablett Swan and Pendels. The rest will be very even imo. Go with the one you think will play the most games. Someone like Selwood may get a rest going into finals. Guys like Rocky Thomo should play every game. It's pretty much toss a coin between most of the premo's this year, everyone has a different opinion, none can prove they are right untill it's too late haha.
And im only talking the super premo's forget the risky one's like Watson Stanton and those blokes.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: The F.A.R.K. on February 06, 2012, 05:53:44 PM
Ok It has to be Thommo. He has stats to back him up for years and then a draw to make you water around the lips. He is also one of the leaders in a young improving side he will surely add a few points to his 2011 average

Rockliff is a no for me. (now i will be a victim of many hate crimes) People can rate him all they want but to be honest I dont want to be taking any risks with my premium midfielders. He is a young midfielder who has had one season of premium. He has one season over 100pts and then after that it is a high 80s. Im sorry but id much rather a midfielder who has years and years of premium years and is in a side that will actually improve. Rockliff will probably end up in my team in years to come but not after one premium season (anyone ever heard of Brian Lake, Ryan Hargrave, Sam Gilbert???) Just coz they have had one good year doesnt mean they are premium for the rest of their life

now for your third mid. If you are playing for byes it makes it difficult but if not cant go past Joel Selwood or even just having pendles and swan
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Kuruki on February 06, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
Leaving Rocky out gives you a couple of choices to upgrade to in round 12 if you haven't already, otherwise it's  basically just Boyd. Thomo is only worth getting from the start imo. So if you have Rocky in round 1 and Boyd is spudding it up who is left to upgrade to in round 12? Hmm.
Are you guys planning to have a full 6 premium mid's before the bye's or during?
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Torpedo10 on February 06, 2012, 06:07:05 PM
I think Rocky is my 2nd mid and Selwood is my 3rd cause I'll Captain Rocky more than I'll Captain Selwood. Simple.  :P
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: The F.A.R.K. on February 06, 2012, 06:09:47 PM
selwood is a freak

remember last year he had that 20 scoring game when he got knocked out and 4 games off for suspension and still blitzed it now he is captain he will be in top 3 dt mids
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2012, 08:44:13 PM
Okay thanks for the feedback guys.

Tossing up between Pendles and Marc.

I was sold on Rocky when I read popedelio's post then i read FARK and was swayed toward Thommo again.

Currently I have Rocky but that could easily change.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: yorgis on February 06, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
agree with you flame thommo's the one. your midfielders are your prized players who can make or break you. you need

mature, consistent players who have done the hard yards. i'm not saying your rocky's , reddens etc won't be any good,but

i will be goinfg for proven performers for my mids and will take a few risks in other position that might not hurt as much
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2012, 10:04:58 PM
Quote from: yorgis on February 06, 2012, 09:29:34 PM
agree with you flame thommo's the one. your midfielders are your prized players who can make or break you. you need

mature, consistent players who have done the hard yards. i'm not saying your rocky's , reddens etc won't be any good,but

i will be goinfg for proven performers for my mids and will take a few risks in other position that might not hurt as much

Yeah fair point mate. Thommo is 15k  cheaper too...
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: popedelio on February 06, 2012, 10:30:42 PM
Quote from: The F.A.R.K. on February 06, 2012, 05:53:44 PM
Ok It has to be Thommo. He has stats to back him up for years and then a draw to make you water around the lips. He is also one of the leaders in a young improving side he will surely add a few points to his 2011 average

Rockliff is a no for me. (now i will be a victim of many hate crimes) People can rate him all they want but to be honest I dont want to be taking any risks with my premium midfielders. He is a young midfielder who has had one season of premium. He has one season over 100pts and then after that it is a high 80s. Im sorry but id much rather a midfielder who has years and years of premium years and is in a side that will actually improve. Rockliff will probably end up in my team in years to come but not after one premium season (anyone ever heard of Brian Lake, Ryan Hargrave, Sam Gilbert???) Just coz they have had one good year doesnt mean they are premium for the rest of their life

now for your third mid. If you are playing for byes it makes it difficult but if not cant go past Joel Selwood or even just having pendles and swan

I totally agree with you, but rockys stats don't lie, he has continued to improve in every season. So again ill give you another cheeky number crunch

Season 2010
rds 1-11 (8 games)
avg: 76.25 sd: 25.27

rds 12-22 (11 games)
avg: 95 sd:13.4

Season 2011
rds 1-12 (8 games, removed subbed game where he got injured)
avg: 106.87 sd: 18.76

rd 13-24 (11 games)
avg:120.63 sd: 13.55

He has continued to improve throughout the year and is super consistent

http://www.lions.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/5085/newsid/128152/default.aspx
this article has rockliff saying that he wants to improve more and play finals

If this doesn't convince you, well i'm not sure what will hahahaha
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: elephants on February 06, 2012, 10:34:22 PM
Gaaaaaah I'm back on Rocky. I'm gonna have to flip a coin. It doesn't matter either way I guess. The one that doesn't make my team will be in there come round 12 I'd say.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: The F.A.R.K. on February 06, 2012, 10:35:23 PM
thommo and chat
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Memphistopheles on February 07, 2012, 01:25:22 PM
Selwood is the man for me. If he hadn't missed games with injury and suspension I think he would have been right up there last season as one of the top overall scorers.

Out of Thommo and Rocky I would go Rocky just because I like him more as a player, but as you say a coin flip - either one is good.

Although personally I don't think I'll go with either. Prefer Selwood, Ablett Swan or Pendles and Boyd/Murphy as my 4 prem picks.
Title: Re: Elite Midfielder Conundrum!!
Post by: Rocket Dons on February 07, 2012, 05:47:37 PM
Go with Thommo over Rocky.