Picked with #1 overall in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft, young Mr.Gibbs has been a mainstay in many Dream Teams over the last 4-5 years because of his DPP which made him one of the most picked players over that period. Last year he averaged 107 through the season which had him playing Halfback/Midfield, had some backline affected scores where he was playing a negative role which took his scores down. Averaged 112 from Rnd 13 last year, including his injury affected game in the 1st week of the finals.
Now listed as Mid only in 2012 many coaches have discounted from their considerations but personally I compare him to Jelwood, around the same average, the same age, probably the same amount of upside this year, but with Gibbs seemingly moving out of the backline & into the mids permanently his scores should consistently be +100, none of those 60-70 scores from last year.
Ratts has stated he is in amazing shape and predicted in a super footy article that he will elevate...
slightly unique bcos of those 60-70 scores u speak of bcos u will still get them, he was used as a stopper on guys like Goodes etc
that was because only Bryce Gibbs averaged 100+ points per game as a defender in 2011
no other defender averaged 100
Heath Scotland was next best at 99 ppg
I tip him for a 115 avg this year.
but you didn't hear it from me :P
I originally had J.Selwood, but the byes didn't work out, have Pendles & Barlow with the round 12 bye, & rate Gibbs & Jelwood at around the same so with the round 13 he's a good fit for my mids/team.
he is awesome no question and at 100+ or even 115 is he enough for a premium midfield spot alongside gaj,swan,pendles,thomo,rocky,boyd... then i put gibbs in there with the likes of redden and mitchel stanton murphy ect ect ect
there are so many options but i think gibbs is down the list enough to be a 6th mid (after upgrades when team is finished)
I wont be starting him.
mids Swan/Gaj/Thomo/Barlow - rooks
I think Thompson's being a bit hyped up this year, I doubt he'll raise his average above 110 & if he does it won't be to the lofty standards people are expecting of him.
just my opinion though
your right i don't expect him to lift either the only thing making me take him over rockliffe is his SUPER EASY draw.
I cant have pendles jelwood before the byes as i have swan barlow so who do you take........ mitchel or murphy... hmmmm
I think that playing gws + gc + PA twice each should raise his average a little. For instance, adding in the 150 pg for GWS, this year he would have averaged 112.
With his team giving him more support, and consisdering he only got a 70 against port for some reason, I think 115 isn't beyond him, great finish to the year as well.
can't see Mitchell or Smurph having much improvement in their scoring, might even have Smurph a bit below his 111.5 avg this year, Mitchell is running at his highest ever & IMO he's hit his peak, through the finals with some decent opposition he averaged 88, that's not something I'd want from someone I'm paying 554k for.
Thompson costs 10k more than Gibbs & I believe Gibbs will average more ppg than Thompson, & his bye work better for my bye structure.
Quote from: Marcz on January 09, 2012, 01:20:05 AM
Ratts has stated he is in amazing shape and predicted in a super footy article that he will elevate...
slightly unique bcos of those 60-70 scores u speak of bcos u will still get them, he was used as a stopper on guys like Goodes etc
I have a feeling that those days are behind him, with Robinson coming along & the Blues having a better forward structure with Kreuzer & Rowe filling the bigman spots with the 3 small forwards around I think Robinson will be the #1 tagger leaving Gibbs to use his elite skills to damage the opposition through the middle & off halfback as a loose man.
Quote from: Phasir on January 09, 2012, 02:06:19 AM
can't see Mitchell or Smurph having much improvement in their scoring, might even have Smurph a bit below his 111.5 avg this year, Mitchell is running at his highest ever & IMO he's hit his peak, through the finals with some decent opposition he averaged 88, that's not something I'd want from someone I'm paying 554k for.
+1
i think mitchel benefited DT wise by the absence form of hodge for part of the season?? not on my radar anyway
yeah, I'd tip Hodge to step above Mitchell again in DT terms this year, by how much I couldn't say
Mitchell will probably still average over 105, but not the 112 standards he set this year, I'd much rather have someone like Gibbs who's a premo with an upside over one who costs more & depreciates in value, might not pay off in the long run though :S
Funny how a guy that is almost always one of the 1st picked becomes someone you now have to think about. Enjoyed picking him each year in my backline more often than not good for a 100. Cant see me starting him in my midfield though to be honest.
Don't like loosing good backmen when the jobs hard enough already in that position.
Quote from: Phasir on January 09, 2012, 01:09:32 AM
Picked with #1 overall in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft, young Mr.Gibbs has been a mainstay in many Dream Teams over the last 4-5 years because of his DPP which made him one of the most picked players over that period. Last year he averaged 107 through the season which had him playing Halfback/Midfield, had some backline affected scores where he was playing a negative role which took his scores down. Averaged 112 from Rnd 13 last year, including his injury affected game in the 1st week of the finals.
Now listed as Mid only in 2012 many coaches have discounted from their considerations but personally I compare him to Jelwood, around the same average, the same age, probably the same amount of upside this year, but with Gibbs seemingly moving out of the backline & into the mids permanently his scores should consistently be +100, none of those 60-70 scores from last year.
Gibbs is a risk cause his not a top 10 premium midfielder so why would you pick him. Those he have the potential to be one possibly but you cant predict what role he will play. As for your comparison to jelwood i cant see it. His a ball magnet and his average is not a true reflection of his output. jelwood was knocked out early last season in the first quarter of a match. jelwood easy over gibbs for me!
Quote from: owenbond007 on January 09, 2012, 01:02:33 PM
Quote from: Phasir on January 09, 2012, 01:09:32 AM
Picked with #1 overall in the 2006 NAB AFL Draft, young Mr.Gibbs has been a mainstay in many Dream Teams over the last 4-5 years because of his DPP which made him one of the most picked players over that period. Last year he averaged 107 through the season which had him playing Halfback/Midfield, had some backline affected scores where he was playing a negative role which took his scores down. Averaged 112 from Rnd 13 last year, including his injury affected game in the 1st week of the finals.
Now listed as Mid only in 2012 many coaches have discounted from their considerations but personally I compare him to Jelwood, around the same average, the same age, probably the same amount of upside this year, but with Gibbs seemingly moving out of the backline & into the mids permanently his scores should consistently be +100, none of those 60-70 scores from last year.
Gibbs is a risk cause his not a top 10 premium midfielder so why would you pick him. Those he have the potential to be one possibly but you cant predict what role he will play. As for your comparison to jelwood i cant see it. His a ball magnet and his average is not a true reflection of his output. jelwood was knocked out early last season in the first quarter of a match. jelwood easy over gibbs for me!
he's the 11th highest averaging midfielder from 2011 when he was playing as a backman, lock him in for top 10 this year ::)
If i had balls i would be picking Gibbs. In my opinion he will be the highest scoring player for Carlton this season. But i cant trust the coach not to shaft me.
+1 LOL
there are 18 coaches now I can't trust not to shaft me !
For mine yeah I'd go selwood over gibbs, but the argument for gibbs is a strong one. He is no Spud ;)
straight up...he's a gun.
only thing that worries me about him is rattens likely to plug holes in the forward and backline with him when his team mates arent stepping up. this could see his weekly numbers lower a bit below what he could make when in the midfield.
but who knows...
you guys can have him i wont be. may have been 11th in 2011 for mid averages think he might slip down the pecking order guys like watson swallow barlow should out score him this year. Without dual role his a big no for me.
im seriously considering starting selwood and Gibbs
i have been playing around with a faily unique mid of
Selwood, Gibbs, Montagna, Hayes, Barlow, Kavanagh
Gibbs is a machine but after having him in my backline for so long i just cant bring myself to select him as a mid just doesn't look right. He could possibly push his average even higher this year but as stupid as it sounds i dont want to take the risk. No for me :'(
Quote from: Holzman on January 10, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
im seriously considering starting selwood and Gibbs
i have been playing around with a faily unique mid of
Selwood, Gibbs, Montagna, Hayes, Barlow, Kavanagh
I'm thinking if a NOOB like me posted that mid up i'd be getting laughed at but I'm willing to bet no one going to laugh at you :)
I actually rate it tho, just capt? i guess all those guys have thier days.
lol,
yeah Holz, I've played with all those players before (never hayes and tags at the same time though), I've considered going a similar strategy. I love the look of gibbs for a unique, I think he has to be considered :P
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 10, 2012, 09:41:55 PM
Quote from: Holzman on January 10, 2012, 08:13:45 PM
im seriously considering starting selwood and Gibbs
i have been playing around with a faily unique mid of
Selwood, Gibbs, Montagna, Hayes, Barlow, Kavanagh
I'm thinking if a NOOB like me posted that mid up i'd be getting laughed at but I'm willing to bet no one going to laugh at you :)
I actually rate it tho, just capt? i guess all those guys have thier days.
yeah captain im worred about to be safe will probably go ablett, selwood, gibbs, barlow, kavanagh, mitchell.
just because i post alot doesnt make me any good, i came 500th when i was a bootstudder and this year despite being a vet coach i was 9000 at some point
+1
i'm a noob but i love the game followed it over 20 years but last season was my first season of DT and SC just never bothered before, so i got a ton to learn which is why i like this site so much, that and because every day/night there are people on that share the love of the game.
If you ahve as many posts as you do then you've been around in the community long enough to have read,heard and learnt a lot more than i have so you have my respect and thats that
Quote from: FOOTBALL FACTORY on January 10, 2012, 08:28:36 PM
Gibbs is a machine but after having him in my backline for so long i just cant bring myself to select him as a mid just doesn't look right. He could possibly push his average even higher this year but as stupid as it sounds i dont want to take the risk. No for me :'(
Ditto, better premium mids available.
I don't think many people that are serious with their teams would pick Gibbs. Quality player, but no longer a lock seeing as he ain't a back anymore.
But I seriously don't think Martin is a FWD/Mid. I think that's a bit cheap........But I won't complain. ;D
In my mids atm, expecting big things from him in 2012 where (who would have thought) he is probably going to be fairly unique.
May not be a bad idea with team structure in mind to have Gibbs, just been doing a bit of reading and the Blues are suggesting he will play more mid/fwd this year and is flying on the track pre-season. With Judds shoulder issues and rumours of him possibly being out till May Gibbs could be the unique people are searching for with loads jumping off due to him loosing his Defender status.
I may have to start rethinking a few things.
Quote from: Windigo on January 20, 2012, 11:02:23 AM
I don't think many people that are serious with their teams would pick Gibbs. Quality player, but no longer a lock seeing as he ain't a back anymore.
But I seriously don't think Martin is a FWD/Mid. I think that's a bit cheap........But I won't complain. ;D
Its rare but i strongly disagree with you on this one Windigo but he did average 122 from his last 8 and all reports from Carlton say he is flying. If he can lift to a 115 average would be a great pick.
Im seriously considering going Ablett, Gibbs, Selwood, Barlow
Quote from: Holzman on January 20, 2012, 02:39:18 PM
Quote from: Windigo on January 20, 2012, 11:02:23 AM
I don't think many people that are serious with their teams would pick Gibbs. Quality player, but no longer a lock seeing as he ain't a back anymore.
But I seriously don't think Martin is a FWD/Mid. I think that's a bit cheap........But I won't complain. ;D
Its rare but i strongly disagree with you on this one Windigo but he did average 122 from his last 8 and all reports from Carlton say he is flying. If he can lift to a 115 average would be a great pick.
Im seriously considering going Ablett, Gibbs, Selwood, Barlow
But you won't know that for certain not until a few games into the season.
Then you'll be wishing you had Swan....Or maybe you'll be telling everyone that Gibbs was the way to go when he is pumping out the 110+ on a consistent basis.
But there are so many Midfielders that are already at that level. Rocky, Pendles etc.
But in the saying that....I'm getting Redden. ::)
Atleast this year we'll be back to starting in round 3 so we'll get a couple of games of the real stuff to have a look at him and see whats happening.
just because Gibbs has been listed as a MID in DT doesnt mean that Ratten will stop using him as a tagger in certain games or get him playing off the half backline, Dream Team has screwed us again and gotten rid of another star out of regualr teams, much like Hodgey from 2010 to last year
With more midfield opportunities to come this year along with his coming of age in the AFL (and DT) I truly believe he will come out and avg 110+
A lot of ppl won't pick him as there are so many amazing mids to choose from. I personally am a little biased and love Gibbsy so he will be lining up for team McRath in 2012 DPP or not
Quote from: browny_wce on January 20, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
just because Gibbs has been listed as a MID in DT doesnt mean that Ratten will stop using him as a tagger in certain games or get him playing off the half backline, Dream Team has screwed us again and gotten rid of another star out of regualr teams, much like Hodgey from 2010 to last year
Yeh i dont doubt that at some stages Ratten will use him that way during 2012, still racks up tons though doing it. With Laidler and Duigan coming on pretty well and Yarran hopefully this doesnt occur to often for those that are willing to take a punt.
yeah can't believe the hype on gibbs this preseason from ratts, judd and now their mid coach
i really can't see him being a bad pick at all this year like some people seem to be saying... he is the epitome of a dream team slut and if he does get the mid/fwd role that everyone is saying (and he was played like that in the back half of last season), he could blitz a mammoth average this year
he was in my first couple fanplanners, slipped out in favor of shiels, but could definitely slip back in by seasons start
i think virtual sports took him out of the defense postion because they knew he could average 115+ this year
He will still tag , the rest of the time he will be good, plenty of premium mids take your pick they all should average 110 or more if your lucky
Honestly I really can't split the top ten mids by too much and Gibbs is in the top ten , it's good he's not a back because he won't be in everyone's side ,
Quote from: egosbar on January 21, 2012, 12:08:10 AM
He will still tag , the rest of the time he will be good, plenty of premium mids take your pick they all should average 110 or more if your lucky
Honestly I really can't split the top ten mids by too much and Gibbs is in the top ten , it's good he's not a back because he won't be in everyone's side ,
goddard and lids will be in basically every good side, i guess its good not all 3 are i guess. Not sure why the pumped the foroward line with soo many F/M though, gibbs should have got F/M status over half of them.
yeah i agree too many f/m options this year for my liking, just means most sides will be very similar again
Quote from: Holzman on January 21, 2012, 12:16:22 AM
Quote from: egosbar on January 21, 2012, 12:08:10 AM
He will still tag , the rest of the time he will be good, plenty of premium mids take your pick they all should average 110 or more if your lucky
Honestly I really can't split the top ten mids by too much and Gibbs is in the top ten , it's good he's not a back because he won't be in everyone's side ,
goddard and lids will be in basically every good side, i guess its good not all 3 are i guess. Not sure why the pumped the foroward line with soo many F/M though, gibbs should have got F/M status over half of them.
This is what Warnie from DT Talk said about the multiple F/M options this year....
"Champion Data put players into position for their official stats of the game. VS replicate these, with no changes. CD don’t make positions with DT in mind.
They base them on stats and % of stats where they get them."
I have recently made the call to drop Barlow and use my cash to get in an elite. After a bit of deliberation, I decided to go unique: Gibbs. Not only is he named after one of the most badass characters on tv, but he is expected to be a pure midfielder in 2012.
This is from a footy tragic article (www.footytragic.com a great site!), albeit from a Carlton fanboy...
BRYCE GIBBS
In my opinion, Bryce is one player you need to lock in this season. I think he’s going to explode in a big way, possibly averaged upwards of 115 in Dream Team (big call, I know).
All the talk has been about how good he is looking, and a move to the midfield permanently is just what he needs.
He averaged 122 Dream Team points in the final eight games of the year in 2011, when he was freed up and used through the midfield and as a half forward where he is really dangerous and knows how to kick a goal or two.
Gibbs isn’t backline eligible anymore, but don’t let that deter you. Get…..him…..in!
Just to point out the facts from the bias:
He did average 122 in the last 8, enough to be in the top three point scorers in the AFL.
He is being hyped up by the midfield group, including the midfield coach and Juddy (who could mistrust Juddy?)
He is awesome! He broke the ton 13 times in 2011, including Six scores 120+, with a high score of 139, where he kicked four goals.
His low scores where he gets the tagging role (lowest score of 74), should be highly reduced or eliminated in a midfield role.
Gibbs is unique both in terms of DT and AFL. Once his DPP eligibility, which saw him as a back line lock, was eliminated, many coaches said no chance and never gave him and second look.
In terms of AFL, Gibbs is young (23-24) and a proven gun, something we dont see too much of.
Do what you will... for me, he's locked in. I expect an average between 115-125...
A bit of food for thought there mate cheers
i think he's been rumored to play more in the midfield every season and then he drifts back into a defensive role later in the season, dejavu.
So in saying this, with no more DPP tag, I'll pass.
I'll take Marc Murphy instead thanks.
i think gibbs will improve his avg. and will be slightly more unique then judd or murphy.
hes a good pick, i wont be taking him, but you cant have everyone
murf instead, gibbs will have a defensive role every so often
he will still play roles in defence for sure , not sure if he will improve his average too much but he should maintain 100+ , hes a gun but is he in the best 6 midfielders , probably not
100% agree. Gibbs likely to make my final side
Running with Stanton right now. But Gibbs will get a big chance to prove himself in NAB Cup.
To justify picking Gibbs in the midfield you'll be hoping for an average of 110+.
I can see gibbs for a 115+ average. But atm... no for me, doesn't fit my structure.