If so, go for it, I'm happy to give it a shot :P
Based on your advice in the other thread, thanks for that I made most changes, not sure if Tomlinson was the way to go from porps? your thoughts..... And also with $20000 left in mids to deal with Coniglio not sure who to go down to at around the $100k price and if I do what to do with the spare $100K, your thoguhts....
TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.
Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)
Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dane Swan ,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)
Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
Forwards
Lance Franklin,Travis Cloke,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen, A Tomlinson,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)
$35,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
Yeah, that team looks a lot better. Zorko may be worth consideration rather than Tomlinson, Zorko is a mature aged DPP at brisbane, who is a pretty good chance of remaining in their best 21. As for coniglio, someone like Mitchell (from sydney), could be the way to go- or, if you're fine with the GWS loading, down to miles, who had the highest DT NEAFL average of 103.
I wouldn't be too concerned atm about your rookies- it's still very early in the season, and we still don't have a really good indicator of scoring potential at this point in time. The main thing you really want to be nailing at this stage is your general structure and mid pricers.
OK Been doing a bit of reading and really think swan is expensive and makes a good upgrae target, I know your not a ZAKA fan but this is where my team is at now, tell me have I lost the plot = reset, or is it improved?
Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Beau Waters,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown (Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)
Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Jack Trengove,David Zaharakis,Michael Barlow,Dylan Shiel (James McDonald,Tom Mitchell)
Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh (Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
Forwards
Lance Franklin,Travis Cloke,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen,Jonathan Brown,Dayne Zorko,Adam Treloar (Jeremy Cameron,Sam Kerridge)
oh and $7500 left in the kitty
Yeah, I like that a fair amount. I was a bit worried before that your forward line was a bit thin, and downgrading swanny really fixed that up. You've heard my issue with Zaha already, so no point in repeating that. The most worrying thing is the absence of consistent captaincy material- when ablett misses games, you don't have much to fall back on...
sidebottom over zaka? and thompson into swan or pendles? may have to turn sandi into macevoy or jacobs to make it all happen?
I rate sidebottom over zaha. mmm, trouble is, thompson is a good pick. You could turn him into selwood- minus the concussed game, he averaged over 114.... thats good enough for captaincy backup...
and you could keep sandi that way.
TEAM NAME: tr0fjeihrwfudjkcdnxsbj
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, M. Clarke, S. Docherty, S. Morris (B. Smedts, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, S. Thompson, M. Barlow, J. McDonald, T. Mitchell (D. Shiel, D. Zorko)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, S. Mumford (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, T. Cloke, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, D. Zaharakis, D. Pfeiffer, A. Treloar (A. Saad, S. Kerridge)
CASH LEFT: $27,400
Please rate my team
Chanmanfu. Salary cap left: $18,000.
Brendon Goddard, Corey Enright, Brett Deledio, Chris Yarran, Luke Tapscott, Matthew Buntine, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Luke Brown
Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Elliott Kavanagh, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Adam Goodes, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jason Porplyzia, Stephen Clifton
Darren Pfeiffer, Ahmed Saad
wildwombarts Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by crumpetjac. Salary cap left: $47,900.
Brendon Goddard, Corey Enright, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Sam Docherty, Will Sierakowski
Billie Smedts, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Matthew Boyd, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Stephen Coniglio, Dom Tyson
James McDonald, Chad Wingard
Aaron Sandilands, Jonathan Giles
Tom Derickx, Orren Stephenson
Paul Chapman, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Mark LeCras, Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko, Tommy Walsh
Sam Kerridge, Sam Rowe
Backs: Adcock is a risky pick. Could work out if he stays fit, he was killing it last year before and after that hand injury. Enright, personally, I'd stay away from- it looks to me like his average has topped out, and that just screams of a slide to me. Shaw is an interesting unique pick, could really pay off as so many coaches will be missing him after being burnt.
Mids: Damn expensive. Ablett and Selwood are both great picks at their price, and you can;t go past Swanny if you have the cash. Boyd however, not a huge fan of. Is it just for structure that you've gone him over pendles/ rockliff? because I rate them both above him atm in scoring potential. Maybe a bit heavy with GWS rookies- I'd swap tyson for shiels as well if I was you.
Rucks: Premium and three rooks, somewhere had to take that hit for the mids. Sandi, Giles and Stephensen are pretty general picks. As a 4th ruck derickx is interesting- atm he has Maric and Graham ahead of him though right? He did\n't play last year due to injury, but personally I don't see him starting round one at this stage. A better 4th ruck, imo, is gorringe. Some people rate Jenkins as well, given the lack of depth in adelaides ruck.
Forwards: Chappy's a bit of a punt given his age. He appears to be over his injury concerns though (touch wood), I'd be a little concerned that his decreased scoring is due to a slide, but if he bounces back you'll be cheering. Fyfe, I'd be a little concerned about coming off the back of a break out year as a forward, statistically, they don't do crash hot after that... however, he *should* be able to maintain his average, although I doubt he'll increase it. I just see buddy as a safer pick at that price. Martin is a good pick, would be pushing for a midfield spot, but as a forward lock and load. I don't rate lecras this season- I'm sure you can find a better pick than him.
Here we go again zip. :P
Salary cap left: $26,300.
Heath Scotland, Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Tim Mohr, Sam Docherty, Steven Morris
Will Sierakowski, Brandon Ellis
Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Michael Barlow, Stephen Clifton, Dylan Shiel
James McDonald, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Ben McEvoy
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Travis Cloke, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jonathan Brown, Tommy Walsh, Billie Smedts
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko
Quote from: elephants on December 28, 2011, 02:18:02 AM
Here we go again zip. :P
Salary cap left: $26,300.
Heath Scotland, Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Tim Mohr, Sam Docherty, Steven Morris
Will Sierakowski, Brandon Ellis
Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Michael Barlow, Stephen Clifton, Dylan Shiel
James McDonald, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Ben McEvoy
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Travis Cloke, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jonathan Brown, Tommy Walsh, Billie Smedts
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko
It's looking pretty solid LE, I mean, I can't really find many faults in it. Scotland is over priced, considering he's coming off his best fantasy season in his career, at his age, I don't think I'd punt on him based on that. But I've probably already told you that :P Apart from that, it's looking pretty sharp.
I'd probably be inclined to go with jacobs over leuen, based on both teams respective ruck depth- we could see leuens scores take a bit of a dive with hudson.
those are all really the only flaws in your team, and the leuen thing is pushing it as well :P You've done a solid effort. Maybe a touch generic, but brownie, barlow and shaw should seperate you from the pack with mcevoy and leuen. I like it :P
Adcock, Boyd and Lecras I'm favouring as Rd 11 byes, easier to cover and they obviously help out 12 & 13.
Had Pendles and Rockliff from getgo last year so love em. Have chosen Selwood and Swan over Pendles this time and want to avoid donut. Rockliff Im a little uncomfortable with because I don't see him anywhere near the class of the others. Doesn't necessarily translate to DT, just feel more confident in other picks.
Dericx just there for now. Hard to find decent rookie without resorting two premos, which may have to.
Enright seems reliable 20games+ at 90ave. Not expecting improvement, just expecting him to do the job again. And in Defence rd 12 bye easier to cover, Rd 13 bye sucks
Chappy, well, I still think he's the best shot at ave 100+ by the fwds so I cant justify leaving him out.
I do want Buddy, till tinkering for best fit
They were my thoughts. Thanks for input mate.
Quote from: theflyinghawk on December 27, 2011, 10:05:26 PM
TEAM NAME: tr0fjeihrwfudjkcdnxsbj
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, M. Clarke, S. Docherty, S. Morris (B. Smedts, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, S. Thompson, M. Barlow, J. McDonald, T. Mitchell (D. Shiel, D. Zorko)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, S. Mumford (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, T. Cloke, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, D. Zaharakis, D. Pfeiffer, A. Treloar (A. Saad, S. Kerridge)
CASH LEFT: $27,400
Backs: honestly, looking pretty solid. Maybe review of your rookie choice, but apart from that, looks good.
Mids: Thompson is a good and interesting pick... given his easy draw, can probably push into super premium status this year. Good, standard rookies.
Rucks: I'm a little concerned about leuen with the recruitment of hudson, but apart from that, it's all good.
forward: I've mentioned my doubt about Zaha before... if it looks like he's not going to get more mid time, and he's staying forward, keep away from 2012.
really solid team though, good job.
Quote from: Chanmanfu on December 27, 2011, 10:06:27 PM
Please rate my team
Chanmanfu. Salary cap left: $18,000.
Brendon Goddard, Corey Enright, Brett Deledio, Chris Yarran, Luke Tapscott, Matthew Buntine, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Luke Brown
Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Elliott Kavanagh, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Adam Goodes, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jason Porplyzia, Stephen Clifton
Darren Pfeiffer, Ahmed Saad
backs: Enright, Yarran, Tapscott
Mids: good
rucks: pretty good, slight concerns about leuen with hudson
Forwards: goodes, zaha, porps
with your backs, enright is getting old, and has topped out in scoring- if there's no upside, then there's only downside. If his average slips even a little, he's no longer a premium back. Tapscott is just a no. Wasn't prolific enough of a scorer to warrant a second year selection. Yarran is an interesting unique- coming into his fourth season, off the back of a mini break-out. Could pay off for you, and if you think he has what he needs to lift his game stick with it.
forwards: goodes is more of an upgrade target, every year, year in, year out, he finishes the season far stronger than he starts it. Especially at his age, that should scream upgrade target. Only stay with zaha if it looks like he's going to be getting a lot more midfield time- other wise forwards generally have a scoring decrease the year following their break out. Porps is probably overpriced for his potential- I'd just go down to a rookie.
Zip, can you give me your thoughts on the two possible changes. mY side posted above.
1. ZAKA to SIDEBOTTOM - (DONE)
2. CLOKE to Mitch Robinson - cloke might be inconsistant as a key forward and may share marks and goals with dawes again. Is Mitch the best alternative or have you another.
3. SHAW to BROUGHTON - been reading good things about broughton and shaw is a fair chunk dearer, thoughts?
TEAM NAME: My Planned Dream Team
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, S. Fisher, P. Duffield, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (L. Spurr, B. Wilkes)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, J. McDonald)
RUC: A. Sandilands, J. Giles (S. Rowe, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, J. Brown, J. Winderlich, S. Clifton (T. Walsh, S. Kerridge)
CASH LEFT: $87,900
*Barlow vs Hayes?
*Duffield vs Grimes?
*Forward line a little weak?
*Where to spend my extra cash?
Thoughts would be appreciated :)
Quote from: Joshy11 on December 28, 2011, 03:43:32 PM
TEAM NAME: My Planned Dream Team
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, S. Fisher, P. Duffield, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (L. Spurr, B. Wilkes)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, J. McDonald)
RUC: A. Sandilands, J. Giles (S. Rowe, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, J. Brown, J. Winderlich, S. Clifton (T. Walsh, S. Kerridge)
CASH LEFT: $87,900
*Barlow vs Hayes?
*Duffield vs Grimes?
*Forward line a little weak?
*Where to spend my extra cash?
Thoughts would be appreciated :)
for the questions
Barlow, just
Grimes- duffield seems to have too much of a lockdown role.
your forward line seems fine to me. Mid price heavy, but probably the best of the bunch.
now, in general
Backs: I'm not a huge scotland fan, I think that considering he's over 30 and coming off his best fantasy season to date, he's over priced. Fisher will also be 30 next year, and has only averaged over 90 once, I'd pass on him too. Duffield I already gave my concerns.
with Hayes vs barlow, both are good picks. But based on youth, I'd put barlow in front of hayes- especially considering I rate freo higher than the saints next year.
rucks: you've gone very light on them. TBH, I'd prefer to downgrade winderlich and duffield and upgrade Rowe to Hmac, but your call. It could work out, and honestly if it wasnt for the byes I would just say kudos. That being said, I have at points been looking at even weaker rucks than that, so I see the value in it.
fwd: Goodes should be an upgrade target- he always starts the season slower than he finishes it, and given his age that makes him perfect for upgrades. I like the rest of the choice, but I'd watch winderlich pretty carefully in pre-season- I've heard someone say that he's been looking a bit proppy still.
Cheers for your ever-helpful advice Zippy! :)
Evil Weevils Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by stew42. Salary cap left: $137,500.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty, Brandon Ellis
Steven Morris, Lee Spurr
Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Anthony Miles, Dylan Shiel
Tom Mitchell, Dayne Zorko
Ben McEvoy, Shane Mumford
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Nick Riewoldt, Jonathan Brown, Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, P. Hanley, J. Grimes, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (L. Spurr, L. Brown)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Cotchin, R. Sloane, M. Barlow, J. Polec, C. Smith (D. Shiel, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, S. Jacobs (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, J. Lewis, J. Brown, S. Kerridge, D. Pfeiffer (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $140,400
be gentle
Chanmanfu. Salary cap left: $20,500.
Brendon Goddard, Jack Grimes, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Cameron Pedersen, Matthew Buntine, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Luke Brown
Gary Ablett jnr, Dane Swan, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Elliott Kavanagh, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Paul Chapman, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, Stephen Clifton
Darren Pfeiffer, Ahmed Saad
Quote from: Chanmanfu on December 28, 2011, 11:32:22 PM
Chanmanfu. Salary cap left: $20,500.
Brendon Goddard, Jack Grimes, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Cameron Pedersen, Matthew Buntine, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Luke Brown
Gary Ablett jnr, Dane Swan, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Elliott Kavanagh, Tom Mitchell
Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Paul Chapman, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Adam Treloar, Stephen Clifton
Darren Pfeiffer, Ahmed Saad
Backs: Obviously grimes' injuries are concerns. No to Pedersen- he did well this season due to his mature body- he won't have the same advantage to lift his fantasy scoring next season.
Mids: all solid, good picks
rucks: leuen, I'm still worried about hudsons potential impact. Hmac is a good, solid, cheap pcik.
forwards: I'd be worried about Chapmans age + scoring potential- as he gets old, he'll probably be spending more time in the fwd line which'll sap his DT points. If he gets back to his 2010 average, you'll be cheering, but imo, large chance he'll slip a bit more this year. Zaha I'm sceptical about having a consecutive break out year, which is rare among forwards- only if he's going to get a lot more mid time.
the rest, all solid enough :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 06:26:50 PM
Based on your advice in the other thread, thanks for that I made most changes, not sure if Tomlinson was the way to go from porps? your thoughts..... And also with $20000 left in mids to deal with Coniglio not sure who to go down to at around the $100k price and if I do what to do with the spare $100K, your thoguhts....
TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.
Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)
Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dane Swan ,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)
Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
Forwards
Lance Franklin,Travis Cloke,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen, A Tomlinson,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)
$35,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
It is ever changing but want to make sure it is moving in the right direction. I know I'm still stuck on ZAKA, against your better judgement. Apart from that how is it looking overall, and compared to the previous team you rated.
Keep in mind the Ruckman ROUGHHEAD can obviously be downgraded to any better option that is cheaper if you suggest one? but there is currently no money to upgrade him.
TEAM: Colliwobblers
KITTY: $5200
DefendersBrendon Goddard,Brett Deledio,Greg Broughton,Dyson Heppell,Beau Waters,Marty Clarke,Sam Docherty (Lee Spurr,Steven Morris)
MidfieldersGary Ablett,Tom Rockliff,Scott Thompson,David Zaharakis,Michael Barlow,Dylan Shiel (James McDonald,Tom Mitchell)
RucksJarryd Roughead,Hamish McIntosh (Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
ForwardsLance Franklin,Dustin Martin,Steele Sidebottom,Allen Christensen,Jonathan Brown,Ahmed Saad,Dayne Zorko (Adam Treloar,Billie Smedts)
Quote from: dubizzy on December 28, 2011, 08:38:56 PM
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, P. Hanley, J. Grimes, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (L. Spurr, L. Brown)
MID: S. Pendlebury, T. Cotchin, R. Sloane, M. Barlow, J. Polec, C. Smith (D. Shiel, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, S. Jacobs (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, J. Lewis, J. Brown, S. Kerridge, D. Pfeiffer (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $140,400
be gentle
Backs: I would probably only go one of hanley and grimes- hanley is a bit of a punt at his pricing, while grimes has those injury concerns. At this point in time, would probably go Grimes over Hanley. The rest is solid.
Mids: You're taking a bit of a punt on Polec, considering he's only played 3 games, isn't in the 22 atm, and only scored mediocre. Personally, around that pricing I'd prefer Caddy, or even Mora. You're probably best downgrading to a rookie. Cotchin is a bit of a punt, as is Sloane- I do like the look of cotchin (had him last year, loved him), he's really quite consistent, only one score in the 60s... and he's demonstrated a decent ceiling, pulling out 120+ scores vs geelong and sydney. I rate him in an improving richmond side though, kudos. Sloane demonstrates a slightly higher ceiling, but with nowhere near cotchins consistency. He did finish the year stronger, but that was for the most part playing lower order teams. I think a true BOY might be in 2013. At his price, barlow or hayes are probably better picks.
Rucks: Both quite solid. I really rate Jacobs to improve his scoring. Leuen, not so much (as I've said before, hudsons impact is a little worrying). Standard ruck benchies.
Fwds: Zaha, I don't rate highly due to him being a fwd coming off a BOY, only lock if he looks like he's getting more mid time. I have similar concerns about fyfe. Lewis is an interesting pick, but there are honestly probably slightly better options around his price range. The rest are solid.
reasonable team, quite unique... could pay off, but probably needs a couple of tweaks :P
Quote from: stew42 on December 28, 2011, 07:29:03 PM
Cheers for your ever-helpful advice Zippy! :)
Evil Weevils Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by stew42. Salary cap left: $137,500.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty, Brandon Ellis
Steven Morris, Lee Spurr
Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Anthony Miles, Dylan Shiel
Tom Mitchell, Dayne Zorko
Ben McEvoy, Shane Mumford
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Nick Riewoldt, Jonathan Brown, Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
quite a beautiful team.
backs: no real faults in your non-rookie players.
mids: the same
rucks: pretty much the same :S
forwards: concerns over fyfe as a fwd riding off a break out year. And riewoldt as well as a mid pricer- he could be past his best as the game passes him by.
those are pretty minor points though, really good team.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 28, 2011, 03:42:33 PM
Zip, can you give me your thoughts on the two possible changes. mY side posted above.
1. ZAKA to SIDEBOTTOM - (DONE)
2. CLOKE to Mitch Robinson - cloke might be inconsistant as a key forward and may share marks and goals with dawes again. Is Mitch the best alternative or have you another.
3. SHAW to BROUGHTON - been reading good things about broughton and shaw is a fair chunk dearer, thoughts?
mmm,
1. goodo.
2. mmm....inconsistent, yes. High averaging? most probably. Still young, Cloke can certainly push his points up again if needed, I wouldn't discount him yet just because Robinson got given DPP. Out of the four most DT relevant new F/M dpp, I probably rate robinson the lowest.
3. Broughtons role is a little concerning- will he play mids, and dominate, rebounding defender and score well, or lock down and score shower? Shaw will possibly be more unique, and is more proven.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 29, 2011, 03:01:57 AM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 06:26:50 PM
Based on your advice in the other thread, thanks for that I made most changes, not sure if Tomlinson was the way to go from porps? your thoughts..... And also with $20000 left in mids to deal with Coniglio not sure who to go down to at around the $100k price and if I do what to do with the spare $100K, your thoguhts....
TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.
Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)
Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dane Swan ,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)
Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
Forwards
Lance Franklin,Travis Cloke,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen, A Tomlinson,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)
$35,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
It is ever changing but want to make sure it is moving in the right direction. I know I'm still stuck on ZAKA, against your better judgement. Apart from that how is it looking overall, and compared to the previous team you rated.
Keep in mind the Ruckman ROUGHHEAD can obviously be downgraded to any better option that is cheaper if you suggest one? but there is currently no money to upgrade him.
TEAM: Colliwobblers
KITTY: $5200
Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Brett Deledio,Greg Broughton,Dyson Heppell,Beau Waters,Marty Clarke,Sam Docherty (Lee Spurr,Steven Morris)
Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Tom Rockliff,Scott Thompson,David Zaharakis,Michael Barlow,Dylan Shiel (James McDonald,Tom Mitchell)
Rucks
Jarryd Roughead,Hamish McIntosh (Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)
Forwards
Lance Franklin,Dustin Martin,Steele Sidebottom,Allen Christensen,Jonathan Brown,Ahmed Saad,Dayne Zorko (Adam Treloar,Billie Smedts)
I prefer Ryder to Roughead. And Trengove > Zaha :P
I like it a lot though. it's quite a solid team now.
My Planned Dream Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by DannyM. Salary cap left: $30,700.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Marty Clarke, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Jack Ziebell, Darren Pfeiffer, Dylan Shiel
Tom Mitchell, James McDonald
Aaron Sandilands, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Steve Johnson, Lance Franklin, Matthew Pavlich, Dustin Martin, Jonathan Brown, Ahmed Saad, Tommy Walsh
Dayne Zorko, Brendon Ah Chee
teams seem to be getting strong :P
I don't see anything out of sorts with your backline
with your mids, I think Pfeiffer would serve you better as a forward, probably in place of ah chee- there's just so many decent midfield options, there's no need to slide him in there, even for a dpp link.
I think the choice of Ziebell as a mid pricer.
rucks are solid, value choices, sandilands will should improve on his value considerably, and hmac is chronically underpriced.
forwards: I don't rate stevie J highly- considering his rollercoaster tendencies, he's over priced, I'd prefer to pick him up later in the season after a poor patch. The rest I like- pavlich is, oddly enough, looking like a bit of a unique. Could really pay for you, especially if he slots back into forward, where he scores his most DT points. The rest are standard, solid pick.
Hey Zip,
Thoughts on Bluesters. Trying to get a balance towards the byes. $157800 splash cash in the kitty.
Goddard, Deledio, Adcock, Heppell, Armstrong, Docherty, Mohr (Morris, Spur)
Ablett, Selwood, Thompson, Barlow, Shiel, Zorko (Mitchell, Kerridge)
Luenberger, McEvoy (Giles, Stephenson)
Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, Gray, Christensen, Saad, Smedts (Treloar, Walsh)
Am considering swapping Luenberger for Jacobs.
Hi Ziplock,
Your knowledgeable analysis is always well received, thanks for your efforts.
Here's some early work I've been doing on the Prixat Beetis side for 2012.
Slection Notes:
Have taken the byes into careful consideration
Rookies are watchlist only and will have to perform in the NAB to ensure selection.
Never been able to turn down an underpriced premium (Barlow,Hayes,Brown,Roo)
Def: Goddard, B (D/M) rd13, Deledio, B (D/M) rd13, Shaw, H Rd12, Heppell, D rd12, Buntine, M rd11, Brown, L (D/M) rd11, Morris, S rd13, Wilkes, B rd13, Clarke, M rd12
Mids: Swan, D rd12, Ablett, G rd13, Martin, D (M/F) rd 13, Barlow, M rd12, Christensen, A (M/F) rd12, Hayes, L rd13, Miles, A rd11, Zorko, D (M/F) rd11
Rucks: Cox, D rd11, McEvoy, B rd13, Giles, J rd11, Stephensen, O rd12
Fwds: Cloke, T (F/M) rd12, Sidebottom, S (F/M) rd12, Riewoldt, N rd13, Brown, J rd11, Walsh, T rd12, Saad, A rd12, Treloar, A (M/F) rd11, Smedts, B (F/D)rd12, Rowe, S (F/R) rd13
Rem. Salary Cap $55,200
Cheers
Quote from: Yoshi on December 29, 2011, 04:18:19 PM
Hey Zip,
Thoughts on Bluesters. Trying to get a balance towards the byes. $157800 splash cash in the kitty.
Goddard, Deledio, Adcock, Heppell, Armstrong, Docherty, Mohr (Morris, Spur)
Ablett, Selwood, Thompson, Barlow, Shiel, Zorko (Mitchell, Kerridge)
Luenberger, McEvoy (Giles, Stephenson)
Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, Gray, Christensen, Saad, Smedts (Treloar, Walsh)
Am considering swapping Luenberger for Jacobs.
Backs: Adcock is a pretty ballsy pick- but I can see why you would go for him, if he can stay uninjured, he's demonstrated he can average close to 100 (early 2011 season), and with the lack of premium backs, fair call. Armstrong is also pretty gutsy- personally, I wish I could slide him in, but atm my structure doesn't allow it. I don't think I would be going both these guys though tbh.
Mids: Don't even need to talk about, all solid picks.
Rucks: leuen seems to be the most popular ruck going around- honestly, if hudson hadn't been picked up, he would have been my first pick in the team. Hudson is a little worrying though with the potential to sap his DT points.
Fwds: your fwds had probably suffered a bit. I'd be cautious of fyfe, for various reasons, his slight body, coming off a BOY. I'd be really hesitant about picking a port adelaide player, let alone an injury prone forward... I'd be monitoring gray very carefully. He did finish the year strongly, and his average is underpriced due to his roudn 8 injury. Then again, he went missing in roudn 5 vs gc... that's just concerning.
mostly a solid team- you haven't taken too many risks, and are running with some unique options, it could work out, but I'd keep a close eye on the ones I've highlighted.
Quote from: Shirtfront on December 29, 2011, 05:49:21 PM
Hi Ziplock,
Your knowledgeable analysis is always well received, thanks for your efforts.
Here's some early work I've been doing on the Prixat Beetis side for 2012.
Slection Notes:
Have taken the byes into careful consideration
Rookies are watchlist only and will have to perform in the NAB to ensure selection.
Never been able to turn down an underpriced premium (Barlow,Hayes,Brown,Roo)
Def: Goddard, B (D/M) rd13, Deledio, B (D/M) rd13, Shaw, H Rd12, Heppell, D rd12, Buntine, M rd11, Brown, L (D/M) rd11, Morris, S rd13, Wilkes, B rd13, Clarke, M rd12
Mids: Swan, D rd12, Ablett, G rd13, Martin, D (M/F) rd 13, Barlow, M rd12, Christensen, A (M/F) rd12, Hayes, L rd13, Miles, A rd11, Zorko, D (M/F) rd11
Rucks: Cox, D rd11, McEvoy, B rd13, Giles, J rd11, Stephensen, O rd12
Fwds: Cloke, T (F/M) rd12, Sidebottom, S (F/M) rd12, Riewoldt, N rd13, Brown, J rd11, Walsh, T rd12, Saad, A rd12, Treloar, A (M/F) rd11, Smedts, B (F/D)rd12, Rowe, S (F/R) rd13
Rem. Salary Cap $55,200
Cheers
Can't fault the backline at all, as you said, rookies are nowhere near locked in.
Mids: the only thing that I find concerning is that you're playing so many mid pricers- not in itself a bad thing, but considering you can slide christensen and martin into the forward line, and still maintain a dpp link through zorko, I think it's a bit of over kill. You'll be missing out on the best rookies, sacrificing them for sub-par fwd ones.
Rucks: I'd be slightly concerned of Cox's over pricing- if you're his age, and are coming off a fantasy best season, I'd be hesitant to start him. I have similar concerns with scotland/ goodes as well
Fwd: Riewoldt and brown are both relatively risky picks. However, a fit brown cant be ignored, and if riewoldt recaptures form he'd be an amazing pick, so good luck with that :)
Basically, my only real criticism is that you're losing valuable midfield rookies like mitchell etc. by playing midpricers who could feature in your forward line.
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, G. Broughton, D. Heppell, M. Clarke, L. Spurr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: D. Swan, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, B. Gibbs, K. Stevens, D. Shiel (S. Gibson, K. Horsely)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, J. Giles (S. Rowe, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, D. Beams, D. Martin, J. Lewis, J. Brown, S. Clifton, T. Couch (D. Zorko, T. Dickson)
Clifton's a mid
Thought Clifton was a mid/fwd?
Quote from: starz on December 30, 2011, 10:41:49 AM
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, G. Broughton, D. Heppell, M. Clarke, L. Spurr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: D. Swan, S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, B. Gibbs, K. Stevens, D. Shiel (S. Gibson, K. Horsely)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, J. Giles (S. Rowe, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, D. Beams, D. Martin, J. Lewis, J. Brown, S. Clifton, T. Couch (D. Zorko, T. Dickson)
interesting team.
Backs: Very strong. I'd be wary of scotland- had a career best season at his age means he's going to be over priced, I'd prefer not to punt on him. I'd watch broughts pre-season, if someone like spurr is promoted off the rookie list, jump on.
Mid: Your first three are no brainers if you have the cash. Gibbs is a great unique- he can seriously pump his average up this year (to premium mid imo), and since he lost his DPP he'll be ultra unique... I hope it pays off for you. Keep an eye on stevens, but from all accounts he's having a ripper pre-season.
Rucks: leuen... is a bit worrying with hudson. It's a big punt fielding giles, but could certainly pay off if he gets a decent enough avg (80 isn't beyond him), you've saved a ton of cash :)
Fwd: Beams is another player I feel is over priced. At the around 100 mark for forwards, I would be ranking him lowest. Couch can't play this year can he? You're the second person I've seen slide Lewis into their team.. it's a ballsy pick, but personally I don't think I'd have the guts to go him- he's just been hovering around that quasi premium stage long enough to be concerning...could be a good pick though, he did monster the end of 2011, and just had lower scores at the start dragging his average down.
Hopefullyat at the start o the season I will be able to aford the mac. Yeh Lewis is a definite risk an I could change him to zaha but as you said he had a poor start to the season which was due to his forward tagging role. But I temember watching his last game of the year against the pies and he carved in a normal midfield role. I reckon he could be a good unique to get me a car
^ yeah, he definitely could be.
geez I know its early dayz but can ya critique this zip.
advice was good last year. cheers.
TEAM NAME: hugebbq1
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, M. Suckling, G. Broughton, B. Waters, M. Buntine (M. Clarke, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, M. Barlow, S. Coniglio, C. Wingard, D. Shiel (J. McDonald, T. Mitchell)
RUC: S. Jacobs, J. Giles (J. Jenkins, O. Stephenson)
FWD: P. Chapman, L. Franklin, N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Martin, A. Saad, A. Treloar (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $5,800
Salary cap left: $35,100.
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, T. Armstrong, S. Docherty, B. Ellis (M. Clarke, L. Spurr)
MID: G. Ablett, D. Swan, T. Rockliff, M. Barlow, S. Coniglio, C. Wingard (D. Zorko, J. McDonald)
RUC: S. Jacobs, A. Sandilands (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, T. Cloke, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, B. Smedts, T. Walsh, J. Cameron (M. Panos, A. Saad)
Thanks in advance :P
Quote from: hugebbq on December 31, 2011, 05:51:55 PM
geez I know its early dayz but can ya critique this zip.
advice was good last year. cheers.
TEAM NAME: hugebbq1
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, M. Suckling, G. Broughton, B. Waters, M. Buntine (M. Clarke, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, M. Barlow, S. Coniglio, C. Wingard, D. Shiel (J. McDonald, T. Mitchell)
RUC: S. Jacobs, J. Giles (J. Jenkins, O. Stephenson)
FWD: P. Chapman, L. Franklin, N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Martin, A. Saad, A. Treloar (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $5,800
Backs: Your first three are solid. God and lids will be two of the most picked backs, while shaw could be a bit unique. Your next three are... interesting... Suckling is a bit of a punt- he's at premium price, but he really tapered off at the end of the year, only averaging 80 from his last 8 H/A games. But including finals, only averaging 68 from his last 11. I'd just be a bit careful :P Broughton, obviously monitor his role- he has the potential to score well, but if he's being used as a lock down defender... pass. Waters could be a great pick if he has an injury free pre-season, I tip him to finally hit a 90+ avg tbh.
Mids: Swan and Ablett will be the no.1 and 2 highest avging mids in most likelyhood. Barlow is definitely up there to potentially be in the top 5 as well. Your rookie choices are solid- maybe a little GWS heavy, but really good nonetheless.
Rucks: Jacobs should continue to dominate as pretty much the only adelaide ruckman, another yearo lder/mature, could pump his scores to 90+. You've then gone Giles as no.2 ruck, and jenkins since he'll probably get games as a precaution for Jacobs, and stephenson is a no brainer 4th ruck. Good enough, maybe a bit risky, but if you can use the cash elsewhere, go for it :)
Fwds: Pretty expensive, if chappy bounces back you'll look like a genius but I would be careful. Buddy is another no brainer. I'd be careful around fyfe coming off a breakout year- honestly Pav is a better starting option in my opinion, especially if he gets to play more fwd where he scores best. Martin looks great as a potential break out player, and people would have to be stupid not to consider him, Robinson could be a good pick- after round 10 last year he only dropped below 90 twice in H/A games, and also racked up a 126 in carltons loss to WCE in the finals. His consistency was really noticeable in rounds 15-20, where his scores only fluctuated between 90 and 96. Considering he's still (relatively young), and shouldn't have peaked, that consistency is something you really want- especially when he's demonstrated a pretty solid ceiling already (141 vs PA), so if he can lift his game a bit, he could really beast it.
Overall, a pretty solid team, just needs a little tweaking- your backline is probably the biggest worry atm :P
Quote from: footy4life on January 01, 2012, 01:19:03 AM
Salary cap left: $35,100.
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, T. Armstrong, S. Docherty, B. Ellis (M. Clarke, L. Spurr)
MID: G. Ablett, D. Swan, T. Rockliff, M. Barlow, S. Coniglio, C. Wingard (D. Zorko, J. McDonald)
RUC: S. Jacobs, A. Sandilands (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, T. Cloke, D. Martin, S. Sidebottom, B. Smedts, T. Walsh, J. Cameron (M. Panos, A. Saad)
Thanks in advance :P
Backs: First 4 I really rate. I also love the look of armstrong this year- if named round one could be a really great pick (I wish I could fit him into my team). Killer backline basically :P
Mids: Your first 2 have the potential for a 120+ average, and imo rocky could really push his average up to 115-120 as well (although a slip is a possible too, it's a bit of a coin flip). Barlow has a shot to finish with a top 6 average, which is amazing for his price. Good rookie choices.
Rucks: Nothing to really doubt he- Jacobs is the only decent ruck at the crows, and should be able to carve up, pushing his scores higher, while sandi is underpriced for someone who'll end up 1 or 2 for the highest average. Standard benchies.
fwds: well, franklin and cloke are both beasts (their inconsistency may drive you up the wall some days though), martin and sidebottom are two of the best choices of BOY's as well, so solid forward line. It feels a little light, but if you can pick the perfect rookies, it'll be solid enough. IMO, I'd be playing Zorko on the field, in the fwds rather than benches in the mids.
good team, not really any major faults at all.
and now, I think I'm finished rating teams for now- I'll lock this topic :P