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Title: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 03:55:18 AM
IT IS TIME....

Post your team here if you think you can handle the truth...  Can you? Nah probs not.

I dont brown nose, give off general opinions without evidence or MESS AROUND.

Disclaimer: If i point out 3 people in your team that you need to change, i will give you a send off! Don't be discouraged, come back with a better team and prove me wrong.

If you have less than 3 mistakes, i will acknowledge your DT side publicly.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Phasir on December 22, 2011, 04:50:20 AM
Titanz Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Phasir. Salary cap left: $52,400.

Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Grant Birchall, Jack Grimes, Phil Davis, Marty Clarke, Tim Mohr
Billie Smedts, Luke Brown

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, David Mundy, Michael Barlow, Kyal Horsely, Dylan Shiel
Adam Treloar, Tom Mitchell

Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Sam Rowe, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Dayne Beams, Nathan Fyfe, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Tommy Walsh
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko

(still working on 4th mid, not going to have both Mundy & Barlow)
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Holz on December 22, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Mundy, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Franklin, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton (Saad, Walsh)

Cap 49k
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:02:02 AM
Quote from: Phasir on December 22, 2011, 04:50:20 AM
Titanz Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Phasir. Salary cap left: $52,400.

Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Grant Birchall, Jack Grimes, Phil Davis, Marty Clarke, Tim Mohr
Billie Smedts, Luke Brown

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, David Mundy, Michael Barlow, Kyal Horsely, Dylan Shiel
Adam Treloar, Tom Mitchell

Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Sam Rowe, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Dayne Beams, Nathan Fyfe, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Tommy Walsh
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko

(still working on 4th mid, not going to have both Mundy & Barlow)

Grimes is built with the same muscles as higgins, soft tissue problems, last year grimes suprised me with his string of games but it was only a matter of time. He broke a bone that is very rare though, he wont ever do that again but i still put him next to higgins and cyril in my soft tissue box.

I would swap Mundy to either Rockliff or Ablett. I prefer Ablett because he can pull out 4-6 150+ big boys where as rocky hits more 120-130.

Your tryin to save coin i can see but u need to get someone who is more valuable than rowe he is dead wood as far as im concerned. If you had the coin you could get HMAC?

Stacked forward line. Am i the only one thinking of not picking buddy because he will struggle in the first 2 rounds this year? If he scores well he will have earnt it for sure. Plays Collingwood then Geelong first 2.

Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Grant Birchall, SCOTLAND, Phil Davis, Marty Clarke, Tim Mohr
Billie Smedts, Luke Brown

Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, ABLETT, Michael Barlow, Kyal Horsely, Dylan Shiel
Adam Treloar, Tom Mitchell

Shane Mumford, HMAC
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Dayne Beams, Nathan Fyfe, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Tommy Walsh, PANOS
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko

without changing too much of your side, thats the changes i would make. Im not saying you shouldnt pick franklin, im saying he will drop in price.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:08:08 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 22, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Mundy, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Franklin, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton (Saad, Walsh)

Cap 49k

Grimes is again in the soft tissue box with cyril and higgins.
Mundy isnt going to be an elite premium, but he might be servicable.
As said before i think you can pick up franklin cheaper but thats just my opinion who knows what he will produce in the first 2 weeks.

I would do this to your side.. but thats just mi y opinion

Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, SCOTLAND, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, SWAN, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton, PANOS (Saad, Walsh)

Downgrade 1 premium in your forward line to a rookie to free up coin, Panos isnt a bad option or maybe a GWS rook. Id personally wait a month on franklin because i see improvement in all the other forwards you have picked.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Phasir on December 22, 2011, 05:14:07 AM
cheers for the review mate
I thought about Scottland at first but had both Gibbs and Murphy in the team so it was too many blues

Also would like to keep Mundy over Barlow, my reasoning is that Barlow will get the bigger tag, he's coming back from a -lets face it- shower season because of that break he had in 2010.  Mundy was also scoring at the same rate as Barlow last year before Mundy had his injury run.. & with the Pav moving back down forward Mundy will be more in the guts of it.

Only moved Rowe in this arvo because I wanted to see how this new "cheap ruck" strategy could help the team.. wouldn't be relying on him to play more than 5-6 matches this season with Giles/Stephenson playing as my 2nd/3rd rucks with whichever player going the best as my 2nd to Mummy.

May well drop Buddy now that you've put it like that.. he does chew up a lot of the cap without much benefit...
might be able to upgrade Barlow & Grimes with the cash if there's another rookie who'll be getting lots of game time
(I don't actually know much about Panos so I'm not totally sure why you thought he'd be the best one)
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Holz on December 22, 2011, 05:59:23 AM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:08:08 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 22, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Mundy, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Franklin, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton (Saad, Walsh)

Cap 49k

Grimes is again in the soft tissue box with cyril and higgins.
Mundy isnt going to be an elite premium, but he might be servicable.
As said before i think you can pick up franklin cheaper but thats just my opinion who knows what he will produce in the first 2 weeks.

I would do this to your side.. but thats just mi y opinion

Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, SCOTLAND, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, SWAN, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton, PANOS (Saad, Walsh)

Downgrade 1 premium in your forward line to a rookie to free up coin, Panos isnt a bad option or maybe a GWS rook. Id personally wait a month on franklin because i see improvement in all the other forwards you have picked.

I can see your concerns about grimes but at 320k dont think its worth it considering he was averaging about 88 before his injury and as you said his injruy was not a soft tissue one. Chappy was in a imular postion but he has proved he is a valuable picks. With melbourne improving he could be set for a 90+ average, if he can string even 10 games together he could rise 100k or more and if he does go down you can straight swap to any premium.



Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Heppel, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Swan, Barlow, Hayes, Clifton, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
N.Riewoldt, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Zorko (Saad, Walsh)

What do you think of the new team
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: drewie11 on December 22, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
TEAM NAME: THE VERTICOLEEZ
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, G. Broughton, B. Lake, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (W. Sierakowski, B. Wilkes)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Reid, D. Shiel (K. Horsely, T. Mitchell)
RUC: D. Cox, A. Sandilands (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, J. Brown, J Winderlich, S. Clifton, A. Saad (D. Zorko, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $35,200

Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: fattony on December 22, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
Clissold's Cainers Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by fattony. Salary cap left: $182,600.

Grant Birchall, Nathan Bock, Jack Grimes, Beau Waters, Nick Suban, Brian Lake, Matthew Buntine
Marty Clarke, Will Sierakowski

Gary Ablett jnr, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Daniel Rich, Andrew Gaff, Chad Wingard
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko

Aaron Sandilands, Matthew Kreuzer
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Nick Riewoldt, Chris Knights, Jonathan Brown, Alan Didak, Billie Smedts
Matthew Panos, Terry Milera

gone a very mid-priced team this year as there are so many improvers around.
by round 1, will have around 50-100k in the bank, gives me a bit of room to move between now and round 1 lockout
ruck and mid benches are pretty much set, back and fwd will be open to change

i want to see how much better your analysis is than R.Griffen ;)
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: rebird on December 22, 2011, 12:42:31 PM
TEAM NAME: RRRBird1
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, S. Burgoyne, B. Waters, L. Spurr, B. Smedts (T. Bugg, B. Wilkes)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, M. Barlow, L. Hayes, A. Miles (D. Shiel, T. Mitchell)
RUC: A. Sandilands, D. Gorringe (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: P. Chapman, D. Beams, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, J. Brown, R. Kerr, J. Cameron (D. Zorko, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $18,900

Reports out of Geelong have Chappy burning up the training track, much like Brown.
Rookies are subject to change, based on NAB performances.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Bruce Wayne on December 22, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
ImBatman Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by BruceWayne. Salary cap left: $113,000.

Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jack Grimes, Rhyce Shaw, Jake Carlisle, Tony Armstrong
Adam Tomlinson, Michael Talia

Dane Swan, Heath Scotland, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes, Chad Wingard, Clay Smith
Elliott Kavanagh, Sam Kerridge

Aaron Sandilands, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Travis Cloke, Nick Riewoldt, Jonathan Brown, Jason Winderlich, Jason Porplyzia, Tommy Walsh
Dayne Zorko, Matthew Panos
Had a bit of a crack at a team, tell me what you think.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Nails on December 22, 2011, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 20, 2011, 04:16:36 PM
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Told myself I wouldn't post a team this year, but I figured I put no real planning into this team and it'll change ~3,248 times between now and round 1. (That number, unfortunately, is not an exaggeration.)

I have done zero research on rookies, disregarded byes and not put much effort into this team

Let me know what you think and if any rookies I have there are absolute rubbish let me know. From what little attention I paid, they all appear pretty solid.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:17:30 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 22, 2011, 05:59:23 AM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:08:08 AM
Quote from: Holzman on December 22, 2011, 04:52:33 AM
Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Mundy, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Franklin, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton (Saad, Walsh)

Cap 49k

Grimes is again in the soft tissue box with cyril and higgins.
Mundy isnt going to be an elite premium, but he might be servicable.
As said before i think you can pick up franklin cheaper but thats just my opinion who knows what he will produce in the first 2 weeks.

I would do this to your side.. but thats just mi y opinion

Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Waters, SCOTLAND, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, SWAN, Barlow, Hayes, Wingard, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Clifton, PANOS (Saad, Walsh)

Downgrade 1 premium in your forward line to a rookie to free up coin, Panos isnt a bad option or maybe a GWS rook. Id personally wait a month on franklin because i see improvement in all the other forwards you have picked.

I can see your concerns about grimes but at 320k dont think its worth it considering he was averaging about 88 before his injury and as you said his injruy was not a soft tissue one. Chappy was in a imular postion but he has proved he is a valuable picks. With melbourne improving he could be set for a 90+ average, if he can string even 10 games together he could rise 100k or more and if he does go down you can straight swap to any premium.



Goddard, Shaw, Deledio, Heppel, Grimes, Clarke, Docherty ( Sierakowski, Brown)
Ablett, Swan, Barlow, Hayes, Clifton, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavanagh)
Mumford, Hmac ( Giles, Stephenson)
N.Riewoldt, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Sidebottom, Brown, Zorko (Saad, Walsh)

What do you think of the new team

Everyone has risks so Grimes is fine i guess haha
Team looks good mate
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.

Only worries i have is Hanley and I also think Shiels is over priced for his output.
Shiels will be a Premum and average 100 but i can't see him averaging more than the super premiums in Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, (Rockliff, Redden and Murphy are close too). So if you want a mid who is unique but averages 5-10 less then everyone elses mids then thats what you will get, cos he isnt a cow or a super premo.

Hanley is your roughy tho so thats alright aswell, just be prepared that both of those guys might not be scoring as much as other guys premiums. 
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:26:08 PM
Quote from: drewie11 on December 22, 2011, 08:52:01 AM
TEAM NAME: THE VERTICOLEEZ
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, B. Deledio, G. Broughton, B. Lake, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (W. Sierakowski, B. Wilkes)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Reid, D. Shiel (K. Horsely, T. Mitchell)
RUC: D. Cox, A. Sandilands (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, J. Brown, J Winderlich, S. Clifton, A. Saad (D. Zorko, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $35,200

Id wait on Broughton, is he plays Half back all season he is a steal, but if he plays back pocket he is going to annoy the crap out of ya and score 50s. And the only other thing is winderlich, watch his preseason to see if hes recovered and playing good footy again.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: fattony on December 22, 2011, 09:39:41 AM
Clissold's Cainers Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by fattony. Salary cap left: $182,600.

Grant Birchall, Nathan Bock, Jack Grimes, Beau Waters, Nick Suban, Brian Lake, Matthew Buntine
Marty Clarke, Will Sierakowski

Gary Ablett jnr, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Daniel Rich, Andrew Gaff, Chad Wingard
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko

Aaron Sandilands, Matthew Kreuzer
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Nick Riewoldt, Chris Knights, Jonathan Brown, Alan Didak, Billie Smedts
Matthew Panos, Terry Milera


Bock will miss the first 2 games of the season through gambling shower he did. He is a unique who i dont mind though, i mean we picked petrie last season and that worked out well.

Your backline needs some work, Grimes has soft tissue problems and is injury prone, Suban has no certain role at the club yet so your gonna have to wait until pre season on that one. Lake and Buntine are fine.

Your midfield is gonna let you down unfortunately. You only have 1 proven premium. I would piss off rich down to a rookie because thats where your coin is made, either that or find some money to upgrade him to a super premium.

Kreuzer i think is not going to score that well.hes playing mostly forward and not getting minutes on the ball. HMAC is a better option because he is a lot cheaper and he will score around 10ppg more than kreuzer.

Your forward line has Chris knights. He is more injury prone than Cyril rioil and Grimes! So soft and will miss games i can garuntee you that! Didak to bounce back is a good guess, bad year but can he do it, who knows?

Grant Birchall, Nathan Bock, Jack Grimes, Beau Waters, S.MORRIS, Brian Lake, Matthew Buntine
Marty Clarke, Will Sierakowski

Gary Ablett jnr, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, SUPER PREMIUM , Andrew Gaff, Chad Wingard
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko

Aaron Sandilands, HMAC
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Nick Riewoldt, PREMIUM, Jonathan Brown, Alan Didak, Billie Smedts
Matthew Panos, Terry Milera

This is what i would do..
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Scrads on December 22, 2011, 01:42:34 PM
I think you have dropped your game a little DT Gun, you are being remarkably soft with some of these teams ;)
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: MTTY on December 22, 2011, 01:42:55 PM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, B. Waters, J. Grimes, B. Ellis, L. Spurr (S. Morris, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Docherty, D. Pfeiffer (D. Shiel, J. McDonald)
RUC: D. Cox, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, D. Beams, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, S. Clifton, A. Saad, B. Smedts (D. Zorko, T. Couch)
CASH LEFT: $114,700

I have looked into strategizing for the byes partially also. Rate away DT Gun
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.

Only worries i have is Hanley and I also think Shiels is over priced for his output.
Shiels will be a Premum and average 100 but i can't see him averaging more than the super premiums in Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, (Rockliff, Redden and Murphy are close too). So if you want a mid who is unique but averages 5-10 less then everyone elses mids then thats what you will get, cos he isnt a cow or a super premo.

Hanley is your roughy tho so thats alright aswell, just be prepared that both of those guys might not be scoring as much as other guys premiums.

I don't see any reason why Shiels can't improve again...
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:43:43 PM
Quote from: rebird on December 22, 2011, 12:42:31 PM
TEAM NAME: RRRBird1
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, S. Burgoyne, B. Waters, L. Spurr, B. Smedts (T. Bugg, B. Wilkes)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, M. Barlow, L. Hayes, A. Miles (D. Shiel, T. Mitchell)
RUC: A. Sandilands, D. Gorringe (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: P. Chapman, D. Beams, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, J. Brown, R. Kerr, J. Cameron (D. Zorko, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $18,900

Reports out of Geelong have Chappy burning up the training track, much like Brown.
Rookies are subject to change, based on NAB performances.

Burgoyne is a disgusting pick, you need to get rid of him. He is not a premium nor a cash cow so he is dead wood.
Gorringe may get a few games but its unlikely he will do much at all. Just wait on pre season to see what young rookie rucks are gonna get a gig.

Pretty decent side bar burgoyne
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.

Only worries i have is Hanley and I also think Shiels is over priced for his output.
Shiels will be a Premum and average 100 but i can't see him averaging more than the super premiums in Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, (Rockliff, Redden and Murphy are close too). So if you want a mid who is unique but averages 5-10 less then everyone elses mids then thats what you will get, cos he isnt a cow or a super premo.

Hanley is your roughy tho so thats alright aswell, just be prepared that both of those guys might not be scoring as much as other guys premiums.

I don't see any reason why Shiels can't improve again...

He might improve, but he isnt going to be in your top 10 scoring mids, nor is he going to make you money, so if your happy with a premo that scores 5-10 ppg less then everyone elses finished mids, knock yourself out
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.

Only worries i have is Hanley and I also think Shiels is over priced for his output.
Shiels will be a Premum and average 100 but i can't see him averaging more than the super premiums in Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, (Rockliff, Redden and Murphy are close too). So if you want a mid who is unique but averages 5-10 less then everyone elses mids then thats what you will get, cos he isnt a cow or a super premo.

Hanley is your roughy tho so thats alright aswell, just be prepared that both of those guys might not be scoring as much as other guys premiums.

I don't see any reason why Shiels can't improve again...

He might improve, but he isnt going to be in your top 10 scoring mids, nor is he going to make you money, so if your happy with a premo that scores 5-10 ppg less then everyone elses finished mids, knock yourself out

What is stopping him apart from your word?
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Hawka on December 22, 2011, 01:50:18 PM
AC/DT


DEF:Corey Enright, Brendon Goddard, Grant Birchall, Beau Waters, Ryan Hargrave, Phil Davis, Marty Clarke
Beau Wilkes, Will Sierakowski

MID:Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Tom Rockliff, Liam Shiels, Anthony Morobito, Chad Wingard
Hayden Crozier, Dylan Shiel

RUC:Dean Cox, Jonathan Giles
Josh Jenkins, Orren Stephenson

FWD:Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Jonathan Brown, Jack Gunston, Mitch Morton, Stephen Clifton
Jason Porplyzia, Tommy Walsh
[/quote]
50k left
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: Bruce Wayne on December 22, 2011, 01:01:02 PM
ImBatman Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by BruceWayne. Salary cap left: $113,000.

Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jack Grimes, Rhyce Shaw, Jake Carlisle, Tony Armstrong
Adam Tomlinson, Michael Talia

Dane Swan, Heath Scotland, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes, Chad Wingard, Clay Smith
Elliott Kavanagh, Sam Kerridge

Aaron Sandilands, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Travis Cloke, Nick Riewoldt, Jonathan Brown, Jason Winderlich, Jason Porplyzia, Tommy Walsh
Dayne Zorko, Matthew Panos
Had a bit of a crack at a team, tell me what you think.

Number 1 dream team rule for me, if you have a B/C or a F/C always play them back or forward.
Rhys shaw a smokey im not sold on him, he is very hit and miss... and wont average 90 so yeh its gonna be hard.
Grimes im iffy about soft tissues.
Rucks perfect.
Im not sure why you would pick cloke when he is a KPP and you can pick Sidebottom or Beams. Cloke might average 90 again but i can see those 2 pushing 100.
See how fit winderlich is.

I would do these things..
Rhys Shaw Out    Scotland Moved Back

Switch things around because scotland needs to be back and you need another premo mid
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:53:40 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:47:28 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:45:19 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 01:43:06 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:24:09 PM
Quote from: Boomz on December 22, 2011, 06:11:53 AM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, P. Hanley, B. Waters, M. Clarke, S. Morris(T. Golds, M. Baguley)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, L. Shiels, M. Barlow, S. Docherty, D. Shiel (D. Zorko, A. Treloar)
RUC: S. Mumford, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: N. Fyfe, M. Robinson, D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, A. Christensen, T. Dickson, T. Walsh (A. Kennedy, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $10,700

I hope you like it Mr. Gun.

Only worries i have is Hanley and I also think Shiels is over priced for his output.
Shiels will be a Premum and average 100 but i can't see him averaging more than the super premiums in Ablett, Swan, Pendles, Selwood, (Rockliff, Redden and Murphy are close too). So if you want a mid who is unique but averages 5-10 less then everyone elses mids then thats what you will get, cos he isnt a cow or a super premo.

Hanley is your roughy tho so thats alright aswell, just be prepared that both of those guys might not be scoring as much as other guys premiums.

I don't see any reason why Shiels can't improve again...

He might improve, but he isnt going to be in your top 10 scoring mids, nor is he going to make you money, so if your happy with a premo that scores 5-10 ppg less then everyone elses finished mids, knock yourself out

What is stopping him apart from your word?

He already had a break out year, now you think he is going to push from 102 to what? 112?

You Pick shiels i dont give a crap, ill pit your shiels V my Joel Selwood and lets see how much he improves.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 01:59:05 PM
@ Nails


Grimes is a risk due to soft tissues.
Are you sure you cant upgrade Redden to either Ablett or Swan? Redden is great, but ablett and swan are DT Gods.
Dont pick Longer he is a Project Player. Pick Stephenson he is a mature ager who just has to play.
Johnson will drop in price i garuntee you that.
Other thing is be careful you have a 3 gws rooks in mids and forwards. Look for at least 1 other team there are good ones you just need to look.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 02:02:31 PM
Quote from: MTTY on December 22, 2011, 01:42:55 PM
DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, B. Waters, J. Grimes, B. Ellis, L. Spurr (S. Morris, L. Brown)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, L. Hayes, S. Docherty, D. Pfeiffer (D. Shiel, J. McDonald)
RUC: D. Cox, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)
FWD: L. Franklin, D. Beams, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, S. Clifton, A. Saad, B. Smedts (D. Zorko, T. Couch)
CASH LEFT: $114,700

I have looked into strategizing for the byes partially also. Rate away DT Gun

Not sure on grimes soft tissues.
good mids n rucks

in your forwards,  franklin is gonna be crap for the first 2 weeks with geelong and collingwood so you van save coin there. Maybe look to another premium instead of franklin and pick up buddy after the first 2 months cos he has a really hard run up front.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Fyfe_gun on December 22, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
Brendon Goddard, Corey Enright, Brett Deledio, Greg Broughton, Courtenay Dempsey, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Marty Clarke, Luke Brown

Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Michael Barlow, Dom Tyson, Adam Treloar
Dylan Shiel, Darren Pfeiffer (depending on rookie promotion)

Sam Jacobs, Jonathan Giles
Josh Jenkins, Orren Stephenson

Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Steele Sidebottom, Jason Porplyzia, Dayne Zorko
Matthew Panos, Stephen Clifton

There are a few that I am hoping will get promoted off rookie lists i.e "michelle" and Lee Spurr. Also players like Jenkins and Brown are only there to fill the spot. Jenkins Ruck bench will be out of Redden, Cordy ect. and Brown I am hoping will turn into Lee Spur
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 22, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
My Planned Dream Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Torpedo10. Salary cap left: $19,400.

Chris Newman, Brendon Goddard, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Grant Birchall, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Michael Talia, Joshua Bootsma

Gary Ablett jnr(C), Tom Rockliff(VC), Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Allen Christensen, Tom Mitchell
Dayne Zorko, Elliott Kavanagh

Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Jason Winderlich, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Porplyzia, Daniel Markworth
Tommy Walsh, Shane Kersten
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: theflyinghawk on December 22, 2011, 03:54:59 PM

#1 Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by nickhors. Salary cap left: $900.

Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Marty Clarke, Sam Docherty
David Astbury, Steven Morris

Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes, James McDonald
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko

Matthew Leuenberger, Jonathan Giles
Sam Rowe, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jonathan Brown, Stephen Clifton, Adam Treloar
Ahmed Saad, Sam Kerridge
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Jukes on December 22, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
Team Name: The Glasgow Goodfellas
DEF: Scotland, Goddard, Shaw, Heppell, Waters, Buntine, Mohr (Morris, Spurr)
MID: Swan, Ablett, Rockliff, Beams, Docherty, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavagnah)
RUC: Leuenberger, Giles (Stephenson, Jenkins)
FOR: Johnson, Chapman, Zaharakis, Martin, Brown, Saad, Zorko (Treloar, Crozier)
CASH LEFT: $17,800
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:04:23 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on December 22, 2011, 01:50:18 PM
AC/DT


DEF:Corey Enright, Brendon Goddard, Grant Birchall, Beau Waters, Ryan Hargrave, Phil Davis, Marty Clarke
Beau Wilkes, Will Sierakowski

MID:Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Tom Rockliff, Liam Shiels, Anthony Morobito, Chad Wingard
Hayden Crozier, Dylan Shiel

RUC:Dean Cox, Jonathan Giles
Josh Jenkins, Orren Stephenson

FWD:Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Jonathan Brown, Jack Gunston, Mitch Morton, Stephen Clifton
Jason Porplyzia, Tommy Walsh
50k left
[/quote]

Hargrave has been riddled with injuries for a while now and i dont think he is worth the risk.
I think shiels will still be solid but  he is gonna be a step behind the likes of J Selwood, Redden, Swan so id probably get rid of him for either swan or selwood.
Some think Jenkins is next in line to play but who knows.. Gunston and Morton are both going to be crumbing forwards o there isnt a huge upside to them. Id downgrade 1 and Upgrade the other.

PS roumer has it Porps is a bit more expensive than you think
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:07:18 PM
Quote from: Fyfe_gun on December 22, 2011, 03:20:58 PM
Brendon Goddard, Corey Enright, Brett Deledio, Greg Broughton, Courtenay Dempsey, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Marty Clarke, Luke Brown

Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury, Joel Selwood, Michael Barlow, Dom Tyson, Adam Treloar
Dylan Shiel, Darren Pfeiffer (depending on rookie promotion)

Sam Jacobs, Jonathan Giles
Josh Jenkins, Orren Stephenson

Nathan Fyfe, Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, David Zaharakis, Steele Sidebottom, Jason Porplyzia, Dayne Zorko
Matthew Panos, Stephen Clifton

There are a few that I am hoping will get promoted off rookie lists i.e "michelle" and Lee Spurr. Also players like Jenkins and Brown are only there to fill the spot. Jenkins Ruck bench will be out of Redden, Cordy ect. and Brown I am hoping will turn into Lee Spur

Only thing i would do here is watch broughtons pre season closely, see where he lines up. Youd think with dawson he should play HBF but you never know, there is 2 back pockets.
Last thing is i would swap dempsey for lake. Lake is fully fit and we know he can average 90, where as dempsey is coming off a knee job and he has never been close to 90 average.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 22, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
My Planned Dream Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Torpedo10. Salary cap left: $19,400.

Chris Newman, Brendon Goddard, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Grant Birchall, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Michael Talia, Joshua Bootsma

Gary Ablett jnr(C), Tom Rockliff(VC), Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Allen Christensen, Tom Mitchell
Dayne Zorko, Elliott Kavanagh

Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Jason Winderlich, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Porplyzia, Daniel Markworth
Tommy Walsh, Shane Kersten

Would get rid of Newman straight away, will average you about 80 and is very hot and cold. Love Watson in the mids was considering him myself, still undecided on him. Only downside to him is when he is injured he is a hero and tries to play through his injuries, so he can serve you up crap and drop in price.
Rucks good
Winderlich you gotta wait and see, Riewoldt if fully fit should improve his average is he plays a bit further up the ground. Improving richmond. He just needs to kick big bags to score thats the only issue. Porps is apparently pretty expensive so just check that when prices come out.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:12:37 PM
Quote from: theflyinghawk on December 22, 2011, 03:54:59 PM

#1 Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by nickhors. Salary cap left: $900.

Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Marty Clarke, Sam Docherty
David Astbury, Steven Morris

Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Lenny Hayes, James McDonald
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko

Matthew Leuenberger, Jonathan Giles
Sam Rowe, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Steele Sidebottom, Jonathan Brown, Stephen Clifton, Adam Treloar
Ahmed Saad, Sam Kerridge

Best one ive read so far.
Just watch Franklin he has a hard first 2 months. Maybe him and stevie J upgrade targets this year
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:14:29 PM
Quote from: Jukes on December 22, 2011, 04:08:03 PM
Team Name: The Glasgow Goodfellas
DEF: Scotland, Goddard, Shaw, Heppell, Waters, Buntine, Mohr (Morris, Spurr)
MID: Swan, Ablett, Rockliff, Beams, Docherty, Shiel (Mitchell, Kavagnah)
RUC: Leuenberger, Giles (Stephenson, Jenkins)
FOR: Johnson, Chapman, Zaharakis, Martin, Brown, Saad, Zorko (Treloar, Crozier)
CASH LEFT: $17,800

I would personally drop Stevie J because you can pick him up cheaper later because he is inconsistant.
All i would do is drop Stevie J, move beams from your mids to your forwards and you can pick who ever for your mids. 
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Torpedo10 on December 22, 2011, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on December 22, 2011, 03:38:36 PM
My Planned Dream Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Torpedo10. Salary cap left: $19,400.

Chris Newman, Brendon Goddard, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Grant Birchall, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Michael Talia, Joshua Bootsma

Gary Ablett jnr(C), Tom Rockliff(VC), Joel Selwood, Jobe Watson, Allen Christensen, Tom Mitchell
Dayne Zorko, Elliott Kavanagh

Matthew Leuenberger, Hamish McIntosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Jason Winderlich, David Zaharakis, Dustin Martin, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Porplyzia, Daniel Markworth
Tommy Walsh, Shane Kersten

Would get rid of Newman straight away, will average you about 80 and is very hot and cold. Love Watson in the mids was considering him myself, still undecided on him. Only downside to him is when he is injured he is a hero and tries to play through his injuries, so he can serve you up crap and drop in price.
Rucks good
Winderlich you gotta wait and see, Riewoldt if fully fit should improve his average is he plays a bit further up the ground. Improving richmond. He just needs to kick big bags to score thats the only issue. Porps is apparently pretty expensive so just check that when prices come out.
Have heard his around 200k, Not that bad for me. Will put up "latest team" soon.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: boschie12 on December 22, 2011, 05:58:04 PM

TEAM NAME: Boschie Team
DEF: B. Goddard, C. Enright, B. Deledio, N. Malceski, B. Lake, M. Buntine, S. Docherty (T. Mohr, S. Morris)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, M. Barlow, C. Wingard, S. Clifton (A. Miles, D. Shiel)
RUC: A. Sandilands, H. McIntosh (O. Stephenson, J. Giles)
FWD: P. Chapman, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, N. Riewoldt, J. Brown, A. Treloar, A. Saad (J. Cameron, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $126,100











Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: DT Gun on December 22, 2011, 06:53:52 PM
Quote from: boschie12 on December 22, 2011, 05:58:04 PM

TEAM NAME: Boschie Team
DEF: B. Goddard, C. Enright, B. Deledio, N. Malceski, B. Lake, M. Buntine, S. Docherty (T. Mohr, S. Morris)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, J. Selwood, M. Barlow, C. Wingard, S. Clifton (A. Miles, D. Shiel)
RUC: A. Sandilands, H. McIntosh (O. Stephenson, J. Giles)
FWD: P. Chapman, N. Fyfe, D. Martin, N. Riewoldt, J. Brown, A. Treloar, A. Saad (J. Cameron, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $126,100

Only thing you have to look at is malceski. you have 125k so maybe you could upgrade him, why not do it?
Thats an option you can consider anyway but not a hell of a lot wrong with this side
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: thefuzz on December 22, 2011, 08:40:46 PM
TheFuzz Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by TheFuzz. Salary cap left: $6,600.

Heath Scotland, Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Jack Grimes, Beau Waters, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Brandon Ellis, Luke Brown

Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Dylan Shiel, Tom Mitchell
Alex Sexton, Clay Smith

Dean Cox, Jonathan Giles
Sam Rowe, Orren Stephenson

Travis Cloke, Lance Franklin, Dustin Martin, Nathan Fyfe, Jonathan Brown, Adam Treloar, Tommy Walsh
Billie Smedts, Dayne Zorko
Opinions? No rookies are locked in yet (obviously) and i think it is too early to plan for the byes
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: PowerBug on December 22, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
I should've done one of these. What an easy way to get your posts up withour being called a junk poster ;D ;D
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: oc16 on December 22, 2011, 10:01:08 PM
Backs
Godd, Deledio, Birchall Heppell, Armstrong, Spurr, Clarke (Sierakowski, Frost)
Mids
Swan, Pendlebury, Ablett, McCarthy, Morabito, Tyson, (Shiel, Docherty)
Rucks-
Sandilands, Leuenberger (Giles, Stephensen)
Forwards
Franklin, Fyfe, Zaharakis, Martin, Porplyzia, Zorko, Walsh, (Smedts, Saad)
Cash Left- $23,600

thanks mate
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 10:04:18 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on December 22, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
I should've done one of these. What an easy way to get your posts up withour being called a junk poster ;D ;D

how do you think I got my count so high :P
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Doyle on December 22, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
Lopsided Losers

Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Matt Suckling, Beau Waters, Adam Tomlinson, Sam Docherty, Brandon Ellis
Will Sierakowski, Luke Brown

Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Michael Barlow, Stephen Coniglio, Chad Wingard
Dylan Shiel, Tom Mitchell

Aaron Sandilands, Sam Jacobs
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Dayne Beams, Nathan Fyfe, David Zaharakis, Alan Didak, Dayne Zorko, Todd Elton
Shane Kersten, Matthew Panos

Salary cap left: $1,300.

All rookies (and anyone else) will be subject to change before season begins

Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Holz on December 23, 2011, 12:51:02 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on December 22, 2011, 10:04:18 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on December 22, 2011, 09:42:25 PM
I should've done one of these. What an easy way to get your posts up withour being called a junk poster ;D ;D

how do you think I got my count so high :P

yeah this is why zip is nearly inside the top 10, its his ask zip sections that do it.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Zombie2.5 on December 23, 2011, 04:04:15 PM
TEAM NAME: Frozencoke
DEF: B. Goddard, D. Heppell, B. Deledio, B. Waters, H. Scotland, M. Buntine, L. Spurr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: D. Swan, G. Ablett jnr, B. Gibbs, J. Selwood, S. Coniglio, S. Docherty (D. Zorko, T. Mitchell)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, J. Giles (O. Stephenson, J. Jenkins)
FWD: D. Beams, N. Fyfe, D. Zaharakis, J. Brown, N. Riewoldt, A. Saad, A. Treloar (H. Crozier, M. Panos)
CASH LEFT: $19,400

Heres my team using fanplanner
im not quite sure with my rucks
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Nails on December 24, 2011, 01:09:47 AM
(http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/3439/carwinner.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/213/carwinner.png/)

Crazy team, byes not considered yet... Rookies aren't set in stone, largely depends on pre-season, therefore I just threw mostly random rooks in.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Doyle on December 24, 2011, 03:36:46 AM
Nails, the only problem I see with your team is that it's stacked with Lions. When their bye is up you're going to miss Rockliff, Redden and Zorko in the middle. Leunberger will need to be replaced with a trusted player (if Stephenson manages to get game then it's all good). But otherwise it's a strong team  ;)
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Nails on December 24, 2011, 10:12:10 AM
Quote from: Doyle on December 24, 2011, 03:36:46 AM
Nails, the only problem I see with your team is that it's stacked with Lions. When their bye is up you're going to miss Rockliff, Redden and Zorko in the middle. Leunberger will need to be replaced with a trusted player (if Stephenson manages to get game then it's all good). But otherwise it's a strong team  ;)

8 midfield spots, 3 bye rounds... going to be missing on average 2.66 (11-13 are the only rounds with byes yes?) so doesn't really matter which team they're from...

I'd be looking at getting out Zorko before rd 11 anyway, if not during round 11.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: RoosFTW123 on December 25, 2011, 07:45:07 PM
Heath Scotland, Brendon Goddard, Brett Deledio, Tony Armstrong, Daniel Connors, Matthew Buntine, Sam Docherty
Brandon Ellis, Billie Smedts

Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, David Mundy, Dom Tyson, Chad Wingard
Anthony Miles, James McDonald

Leuenberger Macintosh
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson

Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Dustin Martin, Jonathan Brown, Jason Winderlich,Byrnes   Stephen Clifton
Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 05:24:29 PM
*The harsher the better, went ok last year in my first yeat of DT, this year I want to get it right love some reality checks :)

TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.

Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)

Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dayne Beams,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)

Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)

Forwards
Lance Franklin,David Zaharakis,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen,Jason Porplyzia,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)

$102,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Ziplock on December 27, 2011, 06:01:14 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 05:24:29 PM
*The harsher the better, went ok last year in my first yeat of DT, this year I want to get it right love some reality checks :)

TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.

Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)

Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dayne Beams,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)

Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)

Forwards
Lance Franklin,David Zaharakis,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen,Jason Porplyzia,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)

$102,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
I'll skip rookie comments since we still don't have a huge idea on them.

your backline looks pretty solid, obviously keep an eye on Lake in pre-season, but that's about it.
I like the mids quite a lot- you've gone a bit GWS heavy there, especially considering the bye, and coniglio mighten't be worth the cash, given there are other, cheaper players with the same/ higher scoring potential ;)
Ablett is a good choice as always, as is Thompson with his bye. Trengove is the most likely candidate for a 3rd year break out, while Barlow is seriously underpriced. My only beef with it is beams- you have a huge amount of cash left over, and he's very expensive for a player that only did 14 games last year. IMO, with the left over cash, upgrade him as high as possible- swan if you can, if not rockliff or selwood.

Rucks are solid.

forwards: porps is too expensive- at rookie price I would have been all over him like a fat kid on a cupcake, but at 200k... pass. I have a personal dislike of Zaha breaking out next year- nobody else seems to agree with me, but statistically, after a forward has a break out year, the following year there's a general trend of decrease in scores rather than increase. Of the highest averaging forwards last year, only chapman bucked the trend, shifting his average up less than a point from memory (which isn't good enough for zaha). Unless he's looking like getting substantial midfield time, pass.

Basically, I would be trading beams to a premium, as mentioned above. Downgrading porps, then either sideways trading zaha to another midpricer if you want left over cash, or upgrading to a premium.

normally I wouldn't jump in someone elses thread like this, but DTGun seems to have been away for a bit :P
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 06:16:05 PM
solid advice by the sounds of it and thanks very much for taking the time, I will make the changes, only reason for beams in MID was DPP. I am confused as to how to get a DPP FWD and DPP DEF into my mids, and or if I should even be bothering
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Colliwobblers on December 27, 2011, 06:24:48 PM
Based on the advice given, I still have Coniglio in the Mids, after the other changes I had $200K approx not sure who to go down to from him, and no one around the $200k i see worth going up to??

TEAM: COLLIWOBBLERS.

Defenders
Brendon Goddard,Heath Shaw,Brett Deledio,Dyson Heppell,Brian Lake,Sam Docherty,Nathan J. Brown,(Brandon Ellis,Billie Smedts)

Midfielders
Gary Ablett,Scott Thompson,Dane Swan ,Jack Trengove,Michael Barlow,Stephen Coniglio,(Dylan Shiel,James McDonald)

Rucks
Aaron Sandilands,Hamish McIntosh,(Jonathan Giles,Orren Stephensen)

Forwards
Lance Franklin,Travis Cloke,Dustin Martin,Allen Christensen, A Tomlinson,Ahmed Saad,Jeremy Cameron,(Adam Treloar,Sam Kerridge)

$35,000 CASH REMAINING = please rate all comments welcome.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: fattony on February 05, 2012, 04:48:05 PM
hit me up DT gun

TEAM NAME: Clissold's Cainers
DEF: B. Deledio, B. Goddard, P. Hanley, P. Duffield, J. Grimes, R. Conca, S. Morris (M. Clarke, S. Docherty)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, S. Thompson, M. Barlow, L. Hayes, J. Caddy, S. Clifton (D. Shiel, D. Zorko)
RUC: A. Sandilands, J. Giles (S. Rowe, O. Stephenson)
FWD: D. Zaharakis, D. Martin, N. Riewoldt, S. Sidebottom, A. Christensen, J. Brown, D. Pfeiffer (T. Milera, B. Smedts)
CASH LEFT: $125,900
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: essendon2 on February 05, 2012, 04:58:56 PM
DEF: Goddard, Birchall, Broughton, Hanley, Buntine, Clarke, Darley (Morris, Brown)

MID: Pendlebury, Ablett, Thompson, Barlow, Shuey, Shiel (Miles, Mitchell)

RUC: Mumford, McIntosh

FWD: Franklin, Goodes, Fyfe, Riewoldt, Brown, Treloar, Zorko (Walsh, Rowe)


Could go Brown<LeCras and Shuey<Gaff?
or Broughton<Heppell?
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Matticus on February 05, 2012, 06:48:50 PM
TEAM NAME: Kingston Kommandos

DEF: B. Goddard, H. Shaw, B. Deledio, D. Heppell, J. Grimes, M. Clarke, B. Ellis (T. Mohr, B. Smedts)

MID: D. Swan, T. Rockliff, J. Selwood, M. Barlow, D. Shiel, K. Stevens (B. McKenzie, J. McDonald)

RUC: D. Cox, B. McEvoy (J. Giles, O. Stephenson)

FWD: L. Franklin, M. Pavlich, D. Martin, J. Brown, J. Porplyzia, A. Treloar, T. Walsh (D. Zorko, B. Ah Chee)

CASH LEFT: $95,100

;D
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: washemj21 on February 05, 2012, 07:13:55 PM
DEF: scotland, birchall, enright, heppell. lake, aylett, morris (wilkes, l.brown)

MID: pendles, ablett, selwood, goddard, zorko, stevens (mcdonald, mitchell)

RUCK: cox, sandilands (giles, stephenson)

FWD: chapman, franklin, o'keefe, robinson, porps, treloar, walsh (rowe, couch)

$20k left in the kitty
feedback would be appreciated
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Doyle on February 06, 2012, 06:56:48 PM
Good ol' DT Gun hasn't been on since a while...
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: jayknows on February 07, 2012, 01:46:55 AM
Here's JayKnows first team for 2012..

Backline: B Goddard, B Deledio, D Heppell, J Grimes, M Clarke, B Ellis, B Smedts (T Mohr, L Brown)

Midfielders: D Swan, G Ablett, J Watson, M Barlow, L Hayes, D Shiel (D Tyson, T Mitchell)

Rucks: A Sandilands, H McIntosh (J Giles, O Stephensen)

Forwards: L Franklin, M Robinson, D Martin, A, Christensen, J Brown, J Winderlich, A Saad (D Zorko, A Treloar)

CASH LEFT: $102,700

be as harsh as possible, cheers DTGUN!
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Ratty on February 07, 2012, 02:41:03 AM

Backs: Goddard Broughton Grimes Suckling Hargrave Clarke Wilkes (Ellis Mohr)

Mids: Ablett Gibbs Bartel Hayes Barlow Coniglio (Horsley Mcdonald)

Rucks: Sandilands Giles (Longer Stephenson)

Forwards: Franklin Fyfe Martin Christensen Sidebottom Winderlich Zorko (Treloar Rowe)

Cheers mate
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Unknown42 on February 07, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
Backs- SCOTLAND, GODDARD, HEPPELL, DUFFIELD, M. CLARKE, DOCHERTY, SMEDTS  (L. BROWN, WILKES)

Mids- SWAN, ABLETT, GIBBS, JUDD, DIDAK, HORSLEY (SHIEL, T. MITCHELL)

Ruck- COX, SANDILANDS (ROWE, STEPHENSEN)

Fwds- GOODES, FYFE, ZAHARAKIS, MARTIN, SAAD, ZORKO, WALSH ( DICKSON, PANOS)

Cheers Buddy!
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Andrew on February 07, 2012, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: Unknown42 on February 07, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
Backs- SCOTLAND, GODDARD, HEPPELL, DUFFIELD, M. CLARKE, DOCHERTY, SMEDTS  (L. BROWN, WILKES)

Mids- SWAN, ABLETT, GIBBS, JUDD, DIDAK, HORSLEY (SHIEL, T. MITCHELL)

Ruck- COX, SANDILANDS (ROWE, STEPHENSEN)

Fwds- GOODES, FYFE, ZAHARAKIS, MARTIN, SAAD, ZORKO, WALSH ( DICKSON, PANOS)

Cheers Buddy!

Didak tore a muscle in his leg today, so you can start looking for a replacement for him already :P

Good team otherwise.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Just Clancy on February 07, 2012, 08:53:10 PM
DEFS: Goddard, Deledio, Suckling, Heppell, Grimes, Clarke, Ellis (Smedts, Morris)
MIDS: Swan, Ablett, J. Selwood, Barlow, Miles, Shiel (Zorko, L. Brown)
RUCKS: Sandi, Leuenberger (Giles, Stephensen)
FWDS: Franklin, Pavlich, Zaharakis, Martin, Saad, Treloar, Walsh (Cameron, Hampton)

$130, 200 left.
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: MercsPower on February 07, 2012, 09:58:11 PM
Tell me what you think and where i could improve 

Backs: Goddard, Deledio, Shaw, Suckling, Marty Clarke, Docherty, S. Morris BENCH: sierakowski, l.spurr

Mids: Swan, Ablett, Murphy, J. Selwood, J. McDonald, D.Shiel BENCH: brown, zorko

Ruck: Sandi, Berger BENCH: Giles, Stephensen

Forwards: Franklin, Fyfe, Martin, Sidebottom, Winderlich, Pfeffier, Treloar BENCH: Saad, Panos

Salary: $23,000
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Paulie on February 07, 2012, 11:39:28 PM
DEF: H. Scotland, B. Goddard, M.Clarke, B Deledio, P.Puopolo, T.Mohr,B.Ellis,(S. Morris, B. Wilkes)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, B.Gibbs,K. Stevens, M.Boyd, D. Shiel (T.Mitchell, J.Mcdonald)
RUC: D.Cox, H.Mcintosh(O. Stephenson, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A.Goodes, M,Robinson, D.Martin, A.Christensen, K.Reimers,D.Zorko,(J.Cameron,M.Panos)

Defence ..im getting rid of puopolo when i find a suitable replacement

any suggestions would be great
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Haddy1.0 on February 07, 2012, 11:44:47 PM
Rem. Salary Cap
$57,500

defender
Goddard, Deledio, Birchall, Heppell, Clarke, Ellis, Smedts (Mohr, Talia)

midfield
Swan, Ablett, Rockliff, Barlow, Zorko, Shiel (Brown, Mitchell)
 
ruck
Cox, Sandilands (Giles, Stephensen)
 
forward
Johnson, Franklin, Beams, Martin, Porplyzia, Treloar, Walsh (Saad, Panos)

Thinking about maybe downgrading Beams to Pav or Goodes and upgrading Porps to Brown and maybe Heppell to either Enright, Shaw or even Grimes... I haven't taken byes into consideration really so any help there ould be nice, cheers.

This is only my second year in the comp but finished in the top 5000 last year. Hoping to do close to the same this year if not better.

Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Unknown42 on February 08, 2012, 12:11:59 AM
Quote from: Andrew on February 07, 2012, 06:52:53 PM
Quote from: Unknown42 on February 07, 2012, 05:34:12 PM
Backs- SCOTLAND, GODDARD, HEPPELL, DUFFIELD, M. CLARKE, DOCHERTY, SMEDTS  (L. BROWN, WILKES)

Mids- SWAN, ABLETT, GIBBS, JUDD, DIDAK, HORSLEY (SHIEL, T. MITCHELL)

Ruck- COX, SANDILANDS (ROWE, STEPHENSEN)

Fwds- GOODES, FYFE, ZAHARAKIS, MARTIN, SAAD, ZORKO, WALSH ( DICKSON, PANOS)

Cheers Buddy!

Didak tore a muscle in his leg today, so you can start looking for a replacement for him already :P

Good team otherwise.

Cheers for that mate!

is there anyone you could recommend to replace him ?
Title: Re: DT GUNS PROPER HARSH BUT TRUE ANALYSIS!!
Post by: Andrew on February 08, 2012, 04:37:59 PM
Christensen for a DPP in the midfield. Also turn Gibbs or Judd into Barlow to save cash you could spend on maybe upgrading/changing Saad. I'm considering Saad also, but being realistic he's a small forward... I think he'll be Brandon Matera-material, which means not really worthwhile at $115k.