just wondering what peoples thoughts are about beams chances as being listed as forward/ centre
also does anyone know the chances of sidebottom going into a full time midfield role
Both locked IF also listed as a fwd. Harvs has said he wants to work with both of them to develop them as midfielders. It will be tough for both of them to crack into the mid though. There are better options for the midfield i think, but if they get the FWD DPP then its a lock for sure.
Yeh thanks mate I'm with you will only consider if named in fwds. But do you think they will take the next step. I know I have heard beams saying that he wants to play more midfield. Don't know about side bot, thoughts???
Steele would love to play in the mid, no doubt, but I think beams will spend more time in there next year. I think both will step up, but with beams having a bit of an injury interrupted season and still averaging 100, he could achieve premium mid status of 110+ whereas I don't think sidebottom can push past 100 next year unless he is getting loads of time through the middle
What do you think as a rough estimate the chance of both being named fwds
I doubt Beams will be a Fwd. I think Sidebottom will be named as a Mid/Fwd. The chance of Beams being a Fwd is around 20%.
No and no.
Nuff said
Beams is a much more attractive option for mine, but sidey is definitely on the radar, however as others have said only if they are forwards
Beams isn't in the top 5 mid fielders at the Pies (Swan, Pendlebury, Thomas, Ball, Johnson). If he's an MPP, then there is time for consideration but otherwise, it is unfortunately a no. Sidebottom was never an option (for me) anyway.
Neither are fantasy relavant at there price. If they came into a season after being injured at a bottom price I would pick them but only then.
mmm, I see them as relevant, as said, if named as fwds/ dpps, but as pure mids... I think there are better options, and for cheaper as well in some cases.
Both are on my radar if named as forward/mids.
Yeh that's what I think elephants. I think beams could be a bit unique by the fct that he is so pricey.
I'm thinking sidebottom is a lot more chance in being named as a forward then beams though. I won't consider beams if not named as a forward.
Also I have a funny feeling bartel might be named as a fwd
both very fantasy relevant. up and coming kids on the block and sidebottom will been given more midfield time in 2012. so he averaged 86 plus more midfield time, if forward he is an absolute steal. Beams is the same
Quote from: DT Gun on December 05, 2011, 08:48:27 PM
both very fantasy relevant. up and coming kids on the block and sidebottom will been given more midfield time in 2012. so he averaged 86 plus more midfield time, if forward he is an absolute steal. Beams is the same
'sidebottom will been given more midfield time in 2012'
Are you the coach of the Pies or something ::)
Where's the proof behind this statement?
Quote from: Doyle on December 05, 2011, 11:09:56 PM
Quote from: DT Gun on December 05, 2011, 08:48:27 PM
both very fantasy relevant. up and coming kids on the block and sidebottom will been given more midfield time in 2012. so he averaged 86 plus more midfield time, if forward he is an absolute steal. Beams is the same
'sidebottom will been given more midfield time in 2012'
Are you the coach of the Pies or something ::)
Where's the proof behind this statement?
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/newsfeatures/news/newsarticle/tabid/5586/newsid/125504/default.aspx
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sidebottom or beams :P
so one of the two... 50/50 it :P
lol dude, it's hardly a burn, he just asked for some evidence, and you gave it. Kudos.
Ziplock don't be such a hero.
Harvey, who signed with the club as the midfield assistant coach on Tuesday, has already laid eyes on two players he thinks will play a key role in assisting established stars Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury and Dale Thomas.
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He got smart about me being the coach of the pies or something so i put him back in his box.
If i keep burning people, they will rename this the Fan Footy Burn Ward.
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'Steele Sidebottom or Dayne Beams can look to push more into the midfield and become regular fixtures there.'
he's laid his eyes on the two of them to monitor them and decide which one to push more into the mids... or at least that's how I'm reading it...
I think your Burn cream is making you delusional.
Harvey, who signed with the club as the midfield assistant coach on Tuesday, has already laid eyes on two players he thinks will play a key role in assisting established stars Dane Swan, Scott Pendlebury and Dale Thomas.
2 players to assist the stars, it aint rocket science!
Beams = 1
Sidebottom = 2
Picture of beams and sidebottom together!
Maybe you are blind and need to print it in braille to read it.
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that quote there is speculation from the writer. The quote from harvey is
' a Steele Sidebottom or Dayne Beams can look to push more into the midfield and become regular fixtures there.â€
that's from Harvey's mouth. That's what you should be looking at, not just the authors ramblings. Without direct reference from the coaches the information provided is equal at best, to the opinions voiced on forums such as these
stop being a stubborn idiot.
At WCE Natanui or Cox will be rucking and one will be forward.
At Freo Pavlich or Fyfe will push into the mids from the forward line.
Not just one of these guys is going to do it, refers to both.
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This is a good read. Ziplock makes an extremely valid point about only reading what's in the quotation marks though.
So you guys are trying to tell me that the reporter who had a 1 on 1 conversation with Robert Harvey about Sidebottom and Beams playing in the midfield has misinterpreted the conversation and published false info...?
It is interesting how bias some people are around here. I bet if someone in the 'DT LEGENDS' fan footy club posted that, it would be breaking news and everyone would have to consider both...
I think you're misinterpreting what I'm trying to say. It looks like one of the two will push for more midfield time, so it makes sense to keep an eye on those two players (like Harvey), but to just lock one, or both of them now wouldn't be a good idea, as, said before, from the quotation it looks like only one will be getting substantially more midfield time.
obviously they arent locks until after nab cup.
And we dont even know if they are forward yet or not.
Im not misinterpreting what our saying i get it, but your not right, and you need to let it go. It does say 'A sidebottom or a beams' but it means that he is going to groom the pair of them to be more versatile, spend more time in the mids and give the stars a chop out. There is no 'one or the other' scenario.
I'm just going to leave it here. One of us is right, and the other is wrong. (or hypothetically, we could both be wrong). But we're not going to have any inkling until at least NAB, and nothing serious until round one, so there's no point in arguing it any longer.
Both deserve to be looked at, based on that article, and it can really be left at that.
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i think if i were to pick one of the two, it'd be beams. but i don't really like either of these two. everything is speculation til we some evidence in the NAB. i've been burnt b4 by the whole ''player A will be spending more time within the midfield next season" ...?? really? lets wait n see then! they are expensive options even as forwards. its a punt picking a magpie after swan,pendles,daisy,cloke. and i personally think i'd punt on marty clarke!
by the way this sledging is great reading! lol!
Quote from: DT Gun on December 06, 2011, 03:31:00 AM
stop being a stubborn idiot.
At WCE Natanui or Cox will be rucking and one will be forward.
At Freo Pavlich or Fyfe will push into the mids from the forward line.
Not just one of these guys is going to do it, refers to both.
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sorry DT gun not trying to point U out in particular but i don't think PAV will be spending as much time in midfield from now on. fyfe will rotate for sure. but i think freo have enough midfield options for pav to stay forward - its been said by freo and pav somewhere! mundy,barlow,broughton, hill, creepy crowley, maybe even mayne or ballantyne.
yeh they said they want him to play 80% forward 20% mid
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look like both got dpp...
both bargains
Will get on at least 1 of them. Probably Sidebottom but still early stages...
Beams comes at a hefty price, I may leave him out of my starting line up and use him as an upgrade target, just to make sure he is going to average at least a bit over 90.
maybe robinson as a C/F would be handy too
Currently have Sidey and Robbo. Beams is pricey but the main reason is I'd be screwed for round 13. Jelwood, swan, pendles, Steve J, cloke all missing.