I think Lids is almost a must have this year in defense, will average 100.
We have added depth in the backline with morris able to play the lockdown role lids was forced into at times last year and i would think we would be a good chance to pick docherty at pick 15. i think we will either be seeing lids push further up the ground or play a pure rebounding role, either way his points increase in my view, what do you guys think?
Sounds like a fair statement to me. Although i dont know much about morris. Whats he like? Any comparisons to current defenders?
Yep fair enough. First ten games are very tough for the tiges though.
I rate dids for an explosive year. May pick him instead of gibbs if I need to cash cut.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
I rate dids for an explosive year. May pick him instead of gibbs if I need to cash cut.
Nah mate have both ;)
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 12:51:33 AM
Sounds like a fair statement to me. Although i dont know much about morris. Whats he like? Any comparisons to current defenders?
small tough defender who can play a lockdown role on a small forward but also run off and rebound, similar to duigan
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
I rate dids for an explosive year. May pick him instead of gibbs if I need to cash cut.
Nah mate have both ;)
mmm, unfortunately at my price range, it's pretty much lids, goddard or gibbs that needs to be cut :P
actually, I could probably just squeeze him in. Damn, I want official prices :P
cheers "theflyinghawk", good to see he can rebound as well as lock down. makes him dt viable. by the sounds of it his job security seems pretty good? may have to get a gig on my bench come round 1.
Yeah, do you think m0nty will adjust the prices once the assistant coach owners get the real pricers in december.
*cough* no, that would be unethical ;D
Hah sure sure.
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 01:08:28 AM
cheers "theflyinghawk", good to see he can rebound as well as lock down. makes him dt viable. by the sounds of it his job security seems pretty good? may have to get a gig on my bench come round 1.
he played this year in south australia as a rebounding defender but i think he will be used more as a lockdown role but the ability to rebound is certainly there, i certainly thought he was a shoe-in, would have been a certainty last season but im second guessing myself a bit. the fullback line is pretty set with batchelor rance grimes, as is the halfback line with (hopefully) houli post/astbury newman so he would need to get a bench spot, but i still think hes a fairly good chance to play round one...who would have thought the tigz would ever have selection dilemas
Maybe Morris and Grimes could be vying for that same position in a back pocket. It does seem like a pretty tall full back line. Thinking they may need a smaller defender on the full back line with some speed? But then again they do have newman and houli on the half back line, who cover that role.. Hmm yes the dilemmas. Least thats one positive for Richmond ! Non the less Deledio will be a lock for me. With all these defenders hes bound to be more of a midfeilder/running half back!
i would almost say Gibbs, Lids and Goddard should all be locked if all backs
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 01:43:07 AM
Maybe Morris and Grimes could be vying for that same position in a back pocket. It does seem like a pretty tall full back line. Thinking they may need a smaller defender on the full back line with some speed? But then again they do have newman and houli on the half back line, who cover that role.. Hmm yes the dilemmas. Least thats one positive for Richmond ! Non the less Deledio will be a lock for me. With all these defenders hes bound to be more of a midfeilder/running half back!
grimes is a lock he was massive when he played last year, won us the dreamtime game when he got injured in he last few minutes. its not too tall, i think you need 3 talls down back, batchelor is a small-medium defender similar to morris in some ways, by no means able to play on a tall. but yes lock lids in regardless of all this :)
the tiger's fixture doesn't even factor IMO. lids a lock as too GOD and gibbs.
lids has missed 3 games since debut in round 1 of 2005. he is a gun athlete and a good SCer/DTer. locked and loaded!! 100 average pretty much a sure thing, depsite playing half back or on ball he'll be effective for SC and find the pill enough for DT
Quote from: Holzman on November 21, 2011, 02:18:36 AM
i would almost say Gibbs, Lids and Goddard should all be locked if all backs
I'm thinking those 3 and then rookies (or a mid-pricer) will be a very common backline combination. I'm looking at it.
Yeah currently I have four premium backmen but that could change.
The backline is pretty tough next year.
Im waiting on Lids for either rd 8 or 12 as a final piece to the backline puzzle.
Gibbs is injured slightly, maybe he hasnt been able to do the extra running without hinderance that elite footballers do in their spare time, its probably a non issue really, there was no operation.
Im just not sure what a new coach, or BJ coming out of contract at the end of 2012 may produce for his scoring.
Im really considering having no premiums in my backline...judging by Monty's Fanplanner, there will be a few possible changes in MPP....Burgoyne, Hartlett?
Being November its a just too little hard to call.
Salopek, Birchall, Yarran, Grundy or Hurn as potential alternatives? They all dont have a new coach?
Quote from: bowyanger on November 22, 2011, 07:20:47 PM
The backline is pretty tough next year.
Im waiting on Lids for either rd 8 or 12 as a final piece to the backline puzzle.
Gibbs is injured slightly, maybe he hasnt been able to do the extra running without hinderance that elite footballers do in their spare time, its probably a non issue really, there was no operation.
Im just not sure what a new coach, or BJ coming out of contract at the end of 2012 may produce for his scoring.
Im really considering having no premiums in my backline...judging by Monty's Fanplanner, there will be a few possible changes in MPP....Burgoyne, Hartlett?
Being November its a just too little hard to call.
Salopek, Birchall, Yarran, Grundy or Hurn as potential alternatives? They all dont have a new coach?
Gibbsy will be right. Still over 100 days till round 1. Rest him in the nab if need be.
Hurn is a gun Scer but cops a tag fpr dt. Birch yeah but he's at premo price. Yarray is inconsistent but a possibility not sure about Grundy or Salopek... Never really had great Dt years, what makes this year special?
Salopek has been injured.
Port have employed some good assistants.
There have been a few injuries to important players at port in the past.
Port have a good draw.
AFL has helped them out also.
A few things to give him confidence.
Grundy is the go to man from Swans backline, has a good DE...takes a lot of marks....good player
Yeah I agree with salopek. Really like him as a player. If he's a back I'll consider. Grundy is less likely but not completely discounting anyone yet.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
I rate dids for an explosive year. May pick him instead of gibbs if I need to cash cut.
Nah mate have both ;)
mmm, unfortunately at my price range, it's pretty much lids, goddard or gibbs that needs to be cut :P
actually, I could probably just squeeze him in. Damn, I want official prices :P
don't we all Zip, don't we all ;)
Quote from: Voldemort on November 23, 2011, 01:12:08 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:06:50 AM
Quote from: elephants on November 21, 2011, 01:02:42 AM
Quote from: Ziplock on November 21, 2011, 01:01:02 AM
I rate dids for an explosive year. May pick him instead of gibbs if I need to cash cut.
Nah mate have both ;)
mmm, unfortunately at my price range, it's pretty much lids, goddard or gibbs that needs to be cut :P
actually, I could probably just squeeze him in. Damn, I want official prices :P
don't we all Zip, don't we all ;)
Yes we most certainly do. I reckon I'll start being really nice to someone that's got assistant coach gold thingy so I can get prices in December. :P
Lids has been considered a "must have" for a few years now by many people simply due to his durability and potential. He is always in or around the best 10 scoring defenders in the comp, but he could be so much better. He has the potential to finally crack that 100 point average but needs to improve on his work rate.
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 01:43:07 AM
Non the less Deledio will be a lock for me. With all these defenders hes bound to be more of a midfeilder/running half back!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126822/default.aspx
You called it!
He's a definite lock for me.
Quote from: Herp Derp on December 03, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 01:43:07 AM
Non the less Deledio will be a lock for me. With all these defenders hes bound to be more of a midfeilder/running half back!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126822/default.aspx
You called it!
He's a definite lock for me.
im actually a bit dissapointed they published the article! hahahaha
The class of player at that price in the midfield and listed as a back you'd be crazy not to look seriously at him
Quote from: theflyinghawk on December 03, 2011, 11:27:33 AM
Quote from: Herp Derp on December 03, 2011, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: noto07 on November 21, 2011, 01:43:07 AM
Non the less Deledio will be a lock for me. With all these defenders hes bound to be more of a midfeilder/running half back!
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126822/default.aspx
You called it!
He's a definite lock for me.
im actually a bit dissapointed they published the article! hahahaha
its not like lids was ever going to be a smokie, if he is a back he will be in nearly every team regardless.
Still, it means that many more people are going to pick him with even the smallest amount of research! And anyone who was having doubts about him will definitely pick him now!
Houli's going to be a fairly good one, he'll be playing in Lid's previous role now I'd say!
Quote from: Herp Derp on December 03, 2011, 04:48:51 PM
Houli's going to be a fairly good one, he'll be playing in Lid's previous role now I'd say!
The Tiges have a tough opening draw so Houli would be one to look at picking up after a little while.
I don't think the draw would affect lids. Maybe Houli more so but when playing harder teams lids would drop from mids to the half backline.
Here is some more upside, Hardwick confirming that he is moving to the midfield.
Makes an appealing option a little more appealing.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126822/default.aspx
it sounds like good news but it could be terrible, a move back into the mid could mean he loses DPP this year or the next.
monty has him listed as a pure defender this year, so I doubt he'll be losing it for 2012. 2013... maybe :(
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2011, 08:08:16 PM
it sounds like good news but it could be terrible, a move back into the mid could mean he loses DPP this year or the next.
I don't think he will play purely as a mid, he will either go back to the back flank when needed or what id like to see play off a forward flank where he could quite easily kick 50 goals in a season playing 3rd fiddle behind jroo and vicks, hes the perfect medium forward.
Anyway i dont think he will lose DPP anytime soon!
Quote from: Cruiseon on December 05, 2011, 07:02:54 PM
Here is some more upside, Hardwick confirming that he is moving to the midfield.
Makes an appealing option a little more appealing.
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126822/default.aspx
haha I posted that a couple of days ago :P great minds think alike ;)
I'd be very surprised if he was named as a mid only.
Quote from: theflyinghawk on December 05, 2011, 09:03:24 PM
Quote from: Holzman on December 05, 2011, 08:08:16 PM
it sounds like good news but it could be terrible, a move back into the mid could mean he loses DPP this year or the next.
I don't think he will play purely as a mid, he will either go back to the back flank when needed or what id like to see play off a forward flank where he could quite easily kick 50 goals in a season playing 3rd fiddle behind jroo and vicks, hes the perfect medium forward.
Anyway i dont think he will lose DPP anytime soon!
Dusty is already the perfect player to go between the midfield and forward line. Although I do think it would be exciting to be able to swap those two around from mid to forward. It'd actually make the Richmond forward line somewhat scary... just need to win the clearances.
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Dusty is already the perfect player to go between the midfield and forward line. Although I do think it would be exciting to be able to swap those two around from mid to forward. It'd actually make the Richmond forward line somewhat scary... just need to win the clearances.
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+1 but dont think he will go forward because he is too good as a running half back
Quote from: Herp Derp on December 03, 2011, 04:48:51 PM
Still, it means that many more people are going to pick him with even the smallest amount of research! And anyone who was having doubts about him will definitely pick him now!
U really think these people who don't do any research will remember an article from early Dec regarding one players role in 2012??
Don't think it will make much difference