Hey guys, new around here so please go easy :P
Hawksrule FC Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $22,600.
Bryce Gibbs, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown, Tim Mohr Steven Morris, Will Sierakowski
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Tom Mitchell, Stephen Clifton
Shane Mumford, Drew Petrie Trent West, Jonathan Giles
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Steele Sidebottom, Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Kreuzer, Shannon Byrnes, Anthony Morabito Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Like everyones, subject to many many changes before round 1 (:
Any advice ?
hartlett has had a long history of hamstring problems
hayes is coming off a knee reconstruction on the wrong side of 30
ballantyne has a problem with his running style and are you expecting fyfe to improve on last year's effort?
byrnes isnt guaranteed games at Geelong
7/10
Quote from: Cicjose on November 11, 2011, 11:55:36 PM
hartlett has had a long history of hamstring problems
hayes is coming off a knee reconstruction on the wrong side of 30
ballantyne has a problem with his running style and are you expecting fyfe to improve on last year's effort?
byrnes isnt guaranteed games at Geelong
7/10
Thankyou for the feedback. Hartlett I agree would be a risk but if he can get a decent pre season (which includes a good show in the NAB) then I think he might be able to improve on last year. Hayes I'm expecting to come with a discount, if he doesn't then no way would I bother. Ballantyne I guess I just like him, and in Ross Lyons first presser at freo he said he rated him and earmarked him for a midfield role, another to watch during preseason. Fyfe I guess I expect more of the same, can't see why he can't emulate last year, especially as he seemed to be injured for the whole bloody season. Byrnes again depends on preseason, I just think maybe there is an opening for him with the cats retired brigade and menzel LTI. If he can secure a spot he's cheap enough to be a bargain I feel.
As a quick bit of advice
Your team is good, Make absolute certainty that Hartlett will play throughout the season. He started well theis year and tapered off.
There are more options than Ballyntyne. Liking a player doesn't let him score more.
You'd have to be careful about Byrnes, Petrie, Sidebottom and Morabtio as none of them aside from Petrie have been scoring with massive potential. IMO the first to are too old and the second two aren't old enough
Quote from: Scrads on November 11, 2011, 10:57:11 PM
Hey guys, new around here so please go easy :P
Hawksrule FC Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $22,600.
Bryce Gibbs, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown, Tim Mohr Steven Morris, Will Sierakowski
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Tom Mitchell, Stephen Clifton
Shane Mumford, Drew Petrie Trent West, Jonathan Giles
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Steele Sidebottom, Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Kreuzer, Shannon Byrnes, Anthony Morabito Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Like everyones, subject to many many changes before round 1 (:
Any advice ?
Welcome to the FF board! I think you've got a pretty good launching pad here, but you need to make a couple of tweaks.
Backs: Great, except watch Hartlett and his unreliable body. Proceed with caution.
Mids: Very strong. Will score well from round 1.
Rucks: Seems like overkill to have West on the bench when you already have Mumford, Petrie/Kreuzer and Giles, who will play a lot of games. Downgrade West and save yourself $100k
Fwds: I think you need one more premium here. If you need to find extra cash, I'd downgrade Lenny Hayes to a rookie. Ballantyne might want to play midfield, but lets see if Ross Lyon actually lets him. I'd steer clear of him myself. Morabito won't score enough. Byrnes isn't guaranteed best 22 for Geelong.
Hey guys, thanks for the advice. So far I've made two changes, out go Ballantyne and Morabito, in come Porplyzia and Nick Riewoldt.
Id just like to clarify a few things with some of the other players.
Hayes- discount dependant, if he doesn't come cheap then I will be looking elsewhere.
Hartlett- fitness and form dependant, if he doesn't show very well in the NAB then I will find someone else.
Byrnes- NAB and round 1 selection dependant, its just a hunch that he might have been pushed into the 22 with some outs at the cattery.
West- I see him as a potential cash cow with ottens gone.
If it makes the situation with these players look better, I found likely replacements for the 3 of them if things look like they won't work:
Hartlett- Houli/Grimes
Hayes- Montagna/Robinson
Byrnes- rookie (Walsh, Patton etc)
I would like to see a premium rookie in the backline, just in case. A Buntine
Liking the looks of the mids, quite similar to mine
Drew Petrie? A good chance that he wont get ruck/fwd + there are a few better options as he can gave quiet games (but very big games too mind you)
Sidebottom .... Brynes ... yeah you could do better there but a decent draft ;)
6.5/10
seems like we are all stacking the mids this year , ive personally gone that way too , id give it a 7 of ten , no gibbs is a gamble , hes a gun back and a must have i believe
Quote from: egosbar on November 14, 2011, 05:08:02 PM
seems like we are all stacking the mids this year , ive personally gone that way too , id give it a 7 of ten , no gibbs is a gamble , hes a gun back and a must have i believe
Thankyou, I'd just like to point out that Gibbs is in my side ;)
Bryce Gibbs, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown, Tim Mohr Steven Morris, Will Sierakowski
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Tom Mitchell, Stephen Clifton
Shane Mumford, Drew Petrie Trent West, Jonathan Giles
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Steele Sidebottom, Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Kreuzer, Shannon Byrnes, Anthony Morabito Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Hartlett is injury prone, Broughton has no set role, Petrie will average 80 and everyone else will have a ruck averaging 95-100, Kruezer is finding his feet and will never average 90, Morabito averaged 60 before he did his acl, why pick him
Quote from: Scrads on November 14, 2011, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: egosbar on November 14, 2011, 05:08:02 PM
seems like we are all stacking the mids this year , ive personally gone that way too , id give it a 7 of ten , no gibbs is a gamble , hes a gun back and a must have i believe
Thankyou, I'd just like to point out that Gibbs is in my side ;)
my bad mate lol 8/10 then , rating too many lol
Quote from: DT Gun on November 15, 2011, 03:33:31 AM
Bryce Gibbs, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown, Tim Mohr Steven Morris, Will Sierakowski
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Tom Mitchell, Stephen Clifton
Shane Mumford, Drew Petrie Trent West, Jonathan Giles
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Steele Sidebottom, Hayden Ballantyne, Matthew Kreuzer, Shannon Byrnes, Anthony Morabito Matthew Panos, Ahmed Saad
Hartlett is injury prone, Broughton has no set role, Petrie will average 80 and everyone else will have a ruck averaging 95-100, Kruezer is finding his feet and will never average 90, Morabito averaged 60 before he did his acl, why pick him
hey gun, just calm down ;)
Take out some positives out of each team as well, not just rubbish everything ::)
its constructive criticism
not really, it's just criticism. It's incredibly definite as well, which always pisses me off
'Hartlett is injury prone'- yeah, but that doesn't make him a bad pick. Waters is also injury prone, but I saw him in your starting team.
'Petrie will average 80'- possibly, but people said this year 80 was about his max, and he ended up closer to 90.
'Kreuzer... will never average 90'- really big call to make on a number 1 draft pick. Go check the draft history- very few (if any) draft picks don't end up averaging at a premium level.
Why pick Mora? As a said before he's a known quantity, with a full pre-season and in freo's best 22... more than you can say about many rooks, even high draft picks.
for the record, constructive criticism is where you don't just tear them to shreds, you point out flaws, as well as strong points, how they can further emphasise the strong points while eliminating the flaws.
Ziplock deserves a round of applause
good point does he makes
Quote from: Ziplock on November 15, 2011, 08:44:19 PM
for the record, constructive criticism is where you don't just tear them to shreds, you point out flaws, as well as strong points, how they can further emphasise the strong points while eliminating the flaws.
In TheMailman's words, 'Give this man a medal.'
Like the quotation Voldemort :D
Have made a few tweaks, here is the updated version:
Hawksrule FC Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $13,000.
Bryce Gibbs, Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown Tim Mohr, Steven Morris
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Anthony Miles, Dylan Shiel
Shane Mumford, Trent West Jonathan Giles, Josh Jenkins
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Steele Sidebottom, Nick Riewoldt, Matthew Kreuzer, Shannon Byrnes, Matthew Panos Jason Porplyzia, Ahmed Saad
I'm surprised you can afford that :o
backs are stacked
mids are stacked
rucks are solid
fwd line is by far the weakest, and I would prefer cloke over fyfe, but still... wow... I actually really like it lol.
I dont consider waters injury prone.
Elbow injuries are unlucky, compared to continuous soft tissue injuries...
Hartlett and Rioli are both injury prone, because they have reoccuring soft tissue problems. Even when hartlett played college football he was injury prone. I know this for a fact, and 3 years later he is still having injury problems. Now you are a smart bunch of lads, you and i both know hartlett is not a good, reliable selection.
I think the kruezer call is fair. Yes a lot of number 1 draft picks do very well, but how many number 1 key position players who have done their acl's have. You can complain about my comments, but im telling you right now kruezer is a waste of time and im not saying it to piss someone off, im telling you guys to help you. Sugar coat kruezer for everyone here then, ill come back here end of next year when hes averaged 75.
You boys operate on here in the method of the shower sandwich. You say a good thing (bread) , then a bad thing (shower), then another good thing (bread). I am just straight to the point and say whats wrong, cos people wanna know how to get better.
If you really wanna know whats wrong with your side and how to help, ask me cos i am brutally honest. How ever many fancy stats you throw, my assessment of his team was spot on.
And your assessment of my team Ziplock was rubbish.
1) a 100% fit sandilands and Cox ruck combo no good? are you serious they will be top 3 ruckman this year with out a doubt.
2) Fyfe wont improve his scores this year? Based on what (garuntee you can't answer)? He is only going to get better, there is constant articles on how good he is in WA papers.
3) Goodes isnt good to select at the start? He has a pretty easy run in the first 2 months in an improving sydney.
4) Last but not least, you slag my selection of Goodes and Scotland because they are too old? How the hell do you know what age footballers drop off at? Both come off of a brilliant year! how on earth do you put a number on each individual person? Maybe you should have told St Kilda to delist Robert Harvey in like ohh 2004 cos apparently all footballers have the similar expiry dates?
I think you'll find there isn't any right or wrong opinion on these players when it is as early as November 2011.
I think the problem lies with the fact that instead of suggesting different players and reasons for/against them you disreagard them. Not a smart move
Quote from: DT Gun on November 16, 2011, 04:44:31 AM
I dont consider waters injury prone.
Elbow injuries are unlucky, compared to continuous soft tissue injuries...
Hartlett and Rioli are both injury prone, because they have reoccuring soft tissue problems. Even when hartlett played college football he was injury prone. I know this for a fact, and 3 years later he is still having injury problems. Now you are a smart bunch of lads, you and i both know hartlett is not a good, reliable selection.
I think the kruezer call is fair. Yes a lot of number 1 draft picks do very well, but how many number 1 key position players who have done their acl's have. You can complain about my comments, but im telling you right now kruezer is a waste of time and im not saying it to piss someone off, im telling you guys to help you. Sugar coat kruezer for everyone here then, ill come back here end of next year when hes averaged 75.
You boys operate on here in the method of the shower sandwich. You say a good thing (bread) , then a bad thing (shower), then another good thing (bread). I am just straight to the point and say whats wrong, cos people wanna know how to get better.
If you really wanna know whats wrong with your side and how to help, ask me cos i am brutally honest. How ever many fancy stats you throw, my assessment of his team was spot on.
And your assessment of my team Ziplock was rubbish.
1) a 100% fit sandilands and Cox ruck combo no good? are you serious they will be top 3 ruckman this year with out a doubt.
2) Fyfe wont improve his scores this year? Based on what (garuntee you can't answer)? He is only going to get better, there is constant articles on how good he is in WA papers.
3) Goodes isnt good to select at the start? He has a pretty easy run in the first 2 months in an improving sydney.
4) Last but not least, you slag my selection of Goodes and Scotland because they are too old? How the hell do you know what age footballers drop off at? Both come off of a brilliant year! how on earth do you put a number on each individual person? Maybe you should have told St Kilda to delist Robert Harvey in like ohh 2004 cos apparently all footballers have the similar expiry dates?
1) I'm saying that there's better value lying around in the rucks. Sandilands always get injured, and injuries just become more common with age. Sandi+ cox was set and forget last year, for a huge price, and Sandi ended up burning everyone when he missed 8 round with turf toe.
2) look onto prior stats. I've used this for Zaha before, but it applies to Fyfe as well
these are basically the 6 highest averaging fwds (when it isn't their first break out year (BOY= brea kout year) )
name boy/boyavg next year/average
Goodes 03/90 04/61
Stevie J 07/95 08/92
Okeefe 06/90 07/83
Chapman 06/101 07/102
Buddy 08/96 08/81
Pavlich 05/91.1 06/90.8
do you see a flowering pattern? because I sure as hell do.
for the record, doing an elbow injury is unlucky. Doing multiple elbow injuries screams some type of structural weakness. That being said, I still think waters is a solid pick up.
as bad as doing your ACL is, it isn't the be all end all, especially at Kreuzers age. In fact, his second game back from injury he pulled out a massive 133 DT points against sydney, playing on grundy, while still gettign 13 hit outs against mumford.
3) Firstly, an improving sydney? really? Sydney have the second oldest team in the competition (only behind St Kilda), and are probably the most likely to slide this season. I like Sydney, I do, but you can hardly call it an improving team. With goodes, I'm literally just giving you the stats of how he rolls. His draw in the first half of the season, I wouldn't say was easy. Freo and Hawthorn should both make the 8 comfortably. While the remaining team (except for GWS and Port), will all be vying for the 8 as well. The middle of the ladder is going to be close that year, and that's where sydney will probably find themselves... teams like NM could really explode.
Once again, look at his stats. Goodes averaged from round 13 onwards averaged 107, and from round 1-13 averaged averaged 84. That's not just one year either, year in year out, regardless of the draw, goodes starts slow and comes strong. For instance, I started him last year, and everyone told me this, pulling out his 2010 and 2009 stats, and I passed it off as an anomaly. But he's been doing this for a decade man. Don't doubt him.
4) if you can say what I said was slagging. My general response to your team was actually quite positive. However, oddly enough, sportsmen do eventually get too old to score well in fantasy terms, or will 'drop off', maybe drop an average from 100 to 80, or 90 to 70 with little warning. I'm just saying to minimise this risk by not starting players when they're getting too far on in years. By doing this you minimise your chance of picking the 2012 Green, Kane Cornes, Lake, Rawlings, Didak.
5) Don't be a flowering tool to people who are just trying to help you improve your team. In a nice manner, might I add, rather than your douchebag manner. Whether I'm right or not on a lot of counts will be shown later in the season, but what I can say confidently is that I give some of the most indepth and statistically supported advice on this site, different opinions and statistics are always good, so don't be a dick about it.
6) why are we discussing your team on scards post?
great side if it comes in under salary cap , i just hate shaw lol and will never pick him , we all have one or two of them players
HAHAHA absolutely lost it at #6 zippy ;)
Yeah Shaw has burned everyone at some stage I think, I was lucky enough to have some spare trades during his fiasco last year. Will be happy for sure if it all fits under the cap.
yeh ziebell broke both his legs so he must have a 'structural weakness' and not just be plain unlucky. Good logic mr physio, statistically support your arguement against that.
really. out of that entire post, that's the only thing you have to say.
Maybe Ziebell has weak bones? or, maybe he was just unlucky. To be fair though, Ziebell broke his leg in two different places, while water's injuries have been in the same place (I could be wrong).
also, waters has now played 6 seasons
10
19
19
8
21
8
games in each of his seasons. Yeah, that doesn't look injury prone.
im a fan of waters but HE IS INJURY PRONE AND WONT BE IN MY SIDE had him when he played 21 ;) and from the get go
waters did both elbows, ziebell did both legs.
Waters first season he played 10 as a first year thats normal, he has had 2 injuries... haha apart from when he has had these unlucky injuries he has played a min 19 which is not too shabby
I actually think waters will average 90+ this year
how do you do an elbow by the way? it's not a bone, is it like ligament damage or something?
Zip, agree with everything you said, but one thing. Fyfe is a becoming more of a midfielder. Whilst Johnson, Franklin and Goodes (04), Pavlich (06) are just forward line players.
I believe Fyfe will improve in 2012, whether it be just by 1 or 2 points or 5 higher. I still believe there will be some form of improvement.
Getting back onto the topic of my team :P
I've swapped Riewoldt and Byrnes for Cloke and Zorko, meaning i have 48k remaining instead of 13k, so hopefully is easier to fit in the salary cap :)
good from you noto!
Hawksrule FC Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $42,500.
Bryce Gibbs, Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Hamish Hartlett, Greg Broughton, Luke Brown Tim Mohr, Steven Morris
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow, Will Hoskin-Elliott Anthony Miles, Dylan Shiel
Shane Mumford, Trent West Jonathan Giles, Josh Jenkins
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Travis Cloke, Steele Sidebottom, Matthew Kreuzer, Matthew Panos, Jason Porplyzia Ahmed Saad, Dayne Zorko
(updated version)
What do you think DT Gun ?
Hartlett will score well until he gets injured, but i guess you can take that risk because u have a pretty stacked backline, not for me personally i like to lock in premiums and have 1 smokie. Broughton is a gun, but we all have to wait to see what role he plays under a new coach. If he is playing thru the midfield and half forward i would jump all over, so thats a wait and see.
Nothing wrong with ya mids.
Rucks are fine, make sure ya upgrade west when ya can cash in on him though.
Not a fan of Kreuzer though.
If that was my team i would drop hartlett to waters or a rookie depending on how much cash u need, pocket the cash and turn kreuzer into a premium, either goodes, Pavlich, whoever takes ya fancy who averages 90.
Have made a fair few tweaks, and have come up with this for now, thoughts ?
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $49,400.
Bryce Gibbs, Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Sam Docherty, Brandon Ellis
Tim Mohr, Steven Morris
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow
Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Matthew Leuenberger, Shane Mumford
Jonathan Giles, Orren Stephenson
Lance Franklin, Nathan Fyfe, Travis Cloke, David Zaharakis, Israel Folau, Matthew Panos, Jason Porplyzia
Ahmed Saad, Tommy Walsh
Obviosuly stacked the midfield, basically 17 premiums there if players like Heppell and Zaharakis improve to premium standard.
EDIT: also worth noting, with 50k in the bank and Hayes yet to recieve a discount (fingers crossed :P) there could be room for a speculative mid-pricer forward or back.
heaps good now.
Only thing is i wouldnt take hayes at 390, id take him at under 300 for sure but we have to just wait and see on that one
Just a sugestion scrads but most of the quality rookies are mids if it were me i would weaken that line and maybee go for another forward, as im sure there are plenty of mids who will outscore your forward rookies.
For example if you downgraded say selwood/hayes to mitchell from the swans or a guy like wingard and went folau to beams/sidebottom/robinson you dont really lose a mid as these 3 will likely be mids and instead of a forward rookie you have a much better mid rookie.
IM personalyy a big fan of hartlett it is a risk but you need to take some risks to do well. I always say its better risking on a player you know who will score well but the risk is injury rather than a player who the risk is his scoring. We all know if hartlett stays fit he could be one of the best backs if not the best. I know its a big if but hopefully he can string at least 10 games together and he will still be worth picking if he can average 95 over that.
I like the team its solid but to me its playing it too safe. Out of the premiums i dont see many players who can lift there game 10+ points based on prcie, besides hayes,barlow and maybee one of the rucks.
Thanks for the advice Holz, might aswell show you the updated version that includes the info from the prospectus leak.
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $-41,700.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Dyson Heppell, Beau Waters, Sam Docherty, Tim Mohr Beau Wilkes, Steven Morris
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Lenny Hayes, Michael Barlow Dylan Shiel, Dayne Zorko
Matthew Leuenberger, Shane Mumford Rhys Stanley, Jonathan Giles
Lance Franklin, Mitch Robinson, David Zaharakis, Steele Sidebottom, Matthew Kreuzer, Matthew Panos, Jason Porplyzia Tommy Walsh, Ahmed Saad
I keep bringing Hartlett in and out of my side, I just can't settle on him. I've still stacked the Mids, but I've also improved the forward line some.
That's weird, I didn't go over the salary cap when I made the team :o
Now I have to fix that, although hopefully Hayes can get a discount big enough to cover it :P
That team looks extremely strong. I reckon fanplanner is a bit out because how can you start that many premiums and still fit it in.
only 11 of those are premium priced...
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $77,600.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Sam Docherty, Billie Smedts
Steven Morris, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Bryce Gibbs, Dylan Shiel
Dayne Zorko, Koby Stevens
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Jarrod Witts, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Ahmed Saad, Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
Adam Treloar, Tory Dickson
Nah ceebs. :P
With your benchies you will need them to play and im not expecting Witts, Cameron or Dickson to play early
Jordan Lewis seems odd (can he average 110+)
the rest look okay
Quote from: Cicjose on January 18, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
With your benchies you will need them to play and im not expecting Witts, Cameron or Dickson to play early
Jordan Lewis seems odd (can he average 110+)
the rest look okay
cameron plays like BJ swings forward and back, a cult hero and sheeds said if he hadnt been taken as a 17 year old then patton mightnt of been the no.1 this year, so hes highly rated and should play
Quote from: Cicjose on January 18, 2012, 11:58:14 PM
With your benchies you will need them to play and im not expecting Witts, Cameron or Dickson to play early
Jordan Lewis seems odd (can he average 110+)
the rest look okay
Yeah a bit puzzled by your doubt of Cameron, he is probably a shoe-in to play almost every game at least until Patton is back.
Witts is actually holding a place in the team for any of him/Lowden/Redden/Jenkins/Rowe/Derickx etc who are playing round 1. Basically I have nfi who between Leuy, Sandi, Cox, Jacobs, McEvoy will be the best (im willing to risk Mummy will be in top 4) so will play the waiting game and upgrade midseason.
Dickson obviously hinges on NAB and round 1 selection.
Lewis, I can definitely see becoming a 95-98 type player.
Quote from: Scrads on January 18, 2012, 11:40:25 PM
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $77,600.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Sam Docherty, Billie Smedts
Steven Morris, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Bryce Gibbs, Dylan Shiel
Dayne Zorko, Koby Stevens
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Jarrod Witts, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Ahmed Saad, Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
Adam Treloar, Tory Dickson
DEF: very solid and deep. Make sure docherty is healthy enough to play early otherwise good rooks.
MID: very solid and deep again. Good rooks as long as stevens plays good wraps on him imo.
RUCK: weak. Obviously somewhere ha to be to allow that DEF & MID. still not uniques many are trying the 1+3 ruck. change witts to rowe?
FWD: I like it and I like Lewis too (as a FWD) cameron is a dead set gun but make sure he isnt getting the role of being glued to the goal square as a KPP or he is not going to be a good pick. (would be a waster to use him that way imo) other rooks good i like dickson too but make sure he is going to get a run round 1 or get a replacement.
I reckon Mohr is a must have rook in the def also but nab cup will sort your rooks out for you.
Overall risky approach with the ruck, solid FWD line Super MID and Super DEF, great side and just quietly i'm surprised you are under the salary cap much less have $70K in the bank.
If you changed anything it would be to get rid of grimes and use his money and whats in teh bank to get a second premium ruck. But thats obviously not your strategy so good team good luck.
your ruck and forward lines a little weak, backs are good, i'm guess ur hoping that hayes + giles , will score more than say sandliands or lue + mcdonald. need a couple more guns in the forward line.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 19, 2012, 12:49:02 AM
Quote from: Scrads on January 18, 2012, 11:40:25 PM
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $77,600.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Sam Docherty, Billie Smedts
Steven Morris, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Bryce Gibbs, Dylan Shiel
Dayne Zorko, Koby Stevens
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Jarrod Witts, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Ahmed Saad, Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
Adam Treloar, Tory Dickson
DEF: very solid and deep. Make sure docherty is healthy enough to play early otherwise good rooks.
MID: very solid and deep again. Good rooks as long as stevens plays good wraps on him imo.
RUCK: weak. Obviously somewhere ha to be to allow that DEF & MID. still not uniques many are trying the 1+3 ruck. change witts to rowe?
FWD: I like it and I like Lewis too (as a FWD) cameron is a dead set gun but make sure he isnt getting the role of being glued to the goal square as a KPP or he is not going to be a good pick. (would be a waster to use him that way imo) other rooks good i like dickson too but make sure he is going to get a run round 1 or get a replacement.
I reckon Mohr is a must have rook in the def also but nab cup will sort your rooks out for you.
Overall risky approach with the ruck, solid FWD line Super MID and Super DEF, great side and just quietly i'm surprised you are under the salary cap much less have $70K in the bank.
If you changed anything it would be to get rid of grimes and use his money and whats in teh bank to get a second premium ruck. But thats obviously not your strategy so good team good luck.
Thanks for the helpful advice :) yeah the rooks obviously depend largely on roles, form and selection in NAB/R1 but yeah, I am definitely keen on the 1 + 3 ruck strategy, as I mentioned earlier Witts is currently in the team representing any of him/Lowden/Redden/Jenkins/Rowe/Derickx etc who are playing round 1.
Quote from: boschie12 on January 19, 2012, 12:57:24 AM
your ruck and forward lines a little weak, backs are good, i'm guess ur hoping that hayes + giles , will score more than say sandliands or lue + mcdonald. need a couple more guns in the forward line.
Well my team doesnt actually have Hayes in it :P I guess Gibbs is where he would be though. My logic on the 1 + 3 ruck is explained in one of my earlier posts, but i respect that its not everybodys cup of tea.
Quote from: Scrads on January 19, 2012, 01:15:56 AM
Thanks for the helpful advice :) yeah the rooks obviously depend largely on roles, form and selection in NAB/R1 but yeah, I am definitely keen on the 1 + 3 ruck strategy, as I mentioned earlier Witts is currently in the team representing any of him/Lowden/Redden/Jenkins/Rowe/Derickx etc who are playing round 1.
My bad sorry I had not read the above posts, the strategy is sound as the money is spent elsewhere in the team where a gain in points over opposition teams will be made to offset the loss of points in the ruck, so it makes no difference really just take nads to go the way you have :)
Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 19, 2012, 01:25:11 AM
Quote from: Scrads on January 19, 2012, 01:15:56 AM
Thanks for the helpful advice :) yeah the rooks obviously depend largely on roles, form and selection in NAB/R1 but yeah, I am definitely keen on the 1 + 3 ruck strategy, as I mentioned earlier Witts is currently in the team representing any of him/Lowden/Redden/Jenkins/Rowe/Derickx etc who are playing round 1.
My bad sorry I had not read the above posts, the strategy is sound as the money is spent elsewhere in the team where a gain in points over opposition teams will be made to offset the loss of points in the ruck, so it makes no difference really just take nads to go the way you have :)
And if worst comes to worst and there is no other ruck rookies playing round 1, I can just downgrade Grimes and upgrade to Hmac ;) or use the 70k i have left over and get Gorringe/Cordy/Lycett if they are playing too.
Quote from: Scrads on January 18, 2012, 11:40:25 PM
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $77,600.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Sam Docherty, Billie Smedts
Steven Morris, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Bryce Gibbs, Dylan Shiel
Dayne Zorko, Koby Stevens
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Jarrod Witts, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Ahmed Saad, Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
Adam Treloar, Tory Dickson
Backs: Very Solid well done
Mids: Once again solid
Rucks: I'm also liking the 1/3 idea. Could you downgrade Grimes to a rook and use the money to upgrade mumford.
Forwards: Jordan Lewis could make or break your season. And keep an eye on Ahmed Saad. I have read a couple of negative articles about him now saying he isn't much of a ball magnet but does kick the odd sneaky goal.
Otherwise solid team well done :)
Quote from: Scrads on January 18, 2012, 11:40:25 PM
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $77,600.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Sam Docherty, Billie Smedts
Steven Morris, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Scott Thompson, Bryce Gibbs, Dylan Shiel
Dayne Zorko, Koby Stevens
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Jarrod Witts, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Ahmed Saad, Jeremy Cameron, Tommy Walsh
Adam Treloar, Tory Dickson
Backs: Very good, worried about docherty a little but assuming we'll see in NAB cup what hes like so no problem there
MIDS: Awesomely strong cant fault it
RUCKS: Very risky, (riskier than mine) although the cheap strategy may work and then who'll be laughing. i dont like it personally, mumford wouldnt be my first choice. hopefully giles can do a zac smith!
Fwds: lewis to me not worth the cash, id go for others. agree with others about saad, not sure about him, doesnt get many touches apparently. i cant see robinson improving that much though, but it could work out for ya
good team though
Experimental Team Fanplanner squad in the Dream Team competition coached by Scrads. Salary cap left: $200.
Brendon Goddard, Heath Shaw, Brett Deledio, Jed Adcock, Jack Grimes, Brandon Ellis, Billie Smedts
Luke Brown, Beau Wilkes
Dane Swan, Gary Ablett jnr, Joel Selwood, Bryce Gibbs, Michael Barlow, Dylan Shiel
Elliott Kavanagh, Tom Mitchell
Shane Mumford, Jonathan Giles
Tom Derickx, Orren Stephenson
Mitch Robinson, Dustin Martin, Jordan Lewis, Steele Sidebottom, Jonathan Brown, Jeremy Cameron, Dayne Zorko
Tommy Walsh, Sam Rowe
Downside: fits into cap by $200.
Also assumes Sidey, Brown and Grimes are premiums, but I could upgrade them if i have spare trades after upgrading the remaining 6 spots on the field.