He could be one of the most blacklisted players of all......but could he be good for your team????
If he puts in a solid pre-season and plays well in the NAB cup, do you think he might be worth a punt?
Cons: his age, injury concerns, lacks effort when things dont go his way
Pros: has that x-factor, price, MPP, is a better player than he demonstrated last season
This should get some good responses lol......go for it.....
IMO he will never be the same player again he is ageing and no longer guaranteed a spot in the best 22 and prone to b the sub...massive risk may have a bit of reward but I reckOn unlikely
No no and no again. Blacklisted for a reason, i won't be having him in my starting side for 2012. But if he comes back, might be an upgrade option.
I won't be taking the risk on him though.
It will all depend on the preseason. You guys are overreacting just because you got burned. He was injured the whole year, not much he can do. If he is in form, he won't be seeing the sub vest like he did this year. He got the sub vest when he was coming back from injury and when he was out of form (due to injuries).
I still think without injury and a good preseason, he will be on fire. It's harsh to judge a guy based on an injury riddled year.
That said, he is pretty expensive, i think ~360k, so he'd really have to have a killer pre-season to picked.
But the biggest worry for me is that he hasn't played a full season since '06.... For that reason, I'll pass unless he shows great signs next year.
Quote from: hawka26 on November 08, 2011, 07:53:09 PM
IMO he will never be the same player again he is ageing and no longer guaranteed a spot in the best 22 and prone to b the sub...massive risk may have a bit of reward but I reckOn unlikely
people said this about leon davis last year. I think that Dids could have last gasp season.
Didak- NEVER AGAIN!!!!!!
Past his use-by date i feel. Could still suprise me but i doubt it.
If he really turns it on I might consider him as an upgrade option, otherwise no thanks.
He's in my team at the moment, not surprised that so many are off afte picking him this year but if you paid attention you would have realised how underdone he was.
As with all guns coming off injury if he gets a full pre season in and looks good in the nab he is a great choice and if it dosnt come off easy downgrade to a rookie you may have missed.
Quote from: CuStArDaRm on November 09, 2011, 12:14:35 AM
He's in my team at the moment, not surprised that so many are off afte picking him this year but if you paid attention you would have realised how underdone he was.
As with all guns coming off injury if he gets a full pre season in and looks good in the nab he is a great choice and if it dosnt come off easy downgrade to a rookie you may have missed.
.....yeah he's on my radar, and l reckon your thinking is spot on
Didak could become the sub special. He is the x-factor, and when you bring him on half way through the 3rd qtr with fresh legs he could break a game wide open. From a DT point of veiw, AVOID.
HI guys :) (first post)
As much as i rate Dids as a player, obviously not on 2011 form, it is a NO for me. My reasoning is that i don't think we will see him back to his big scoring days, not as consistently anyway. He will no doubt punch out some big scores from time to time just don't think it will be regularly. Dids scored well when Cloke and Dawes were still finding their feet (he was their leading goal scorer at one point wasn't he?) but now with these two machines in the forward line Dids role has or will change. I see him playing more of a defensive/negating forward role. We saw him playing this role this season, that and being the sub on a regular basis. He will obviously come back fitter next season, just can't see the consistent big scores anymore. Not worth the awkward price tag in my opinion.
Quote from: DicingApple on November 09, 2011, 12:44:34 PM
HI guys :) (first post)
As much as i rate Dids as a player, obviously not on 2011 form, it is a NO for me. My reasoning is that i don't think we will see him back to his big scoring days, not as consistently anyway. He will no doubt punch out some big scores from time to time just don't think it will be regularly. Dids scored well when Cloke and Dawes were still finding their feet (he was their leading goal scorer at one point wasn't he?) but now with these two machines in the forward line Dids role has or will change. I see him playing more of a defensive/negating forward role. We saw him playing this role this season, that and being the sub on a regular basis. He will obviously come back fitter next season, just can't see the consistent big scores anymore. Not worth the awkward price tag in my opinion.
Welcome mate.
All good points but personally I think he will find his way back into the mid-field if healthy, clearly he plays best when he floats towards the middle. Its always a sign that he is crook when he plays closer to goals imo.
Im as skepical about his form as everyone, I was the same with Leon last year and didn't grab him!
I think he is worth the risk being healthy and the fact that he is at his absolute bottom in terms of price and average based on past seasons I think it will be a worthy punt.
All that said I wont pick him if still underdone, Ill only pick him if he looks like he will bolt out the gates, and I will pick a rookie over him if a shining light comes through during the nab.
Definitely not. Himself and Heath Shaw are blacklisted for a reason. Shaw can't have a normal off-field life and Didak can't seem to have much of an on-field life (in 2011 at least)
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
just to say, everyone said that about Davis this year- and dids is a far more proven DTer than him.
Alan Didak DT stats for since avging 90 or more (except for 2011)
2008 CO 18 1706 94.7
2009 CO 17 1746 102.7
2010 CO 20 1980 99
2011 CO 17 1250 73.5
He will most likely get back up, but is it a risk worth taking?
honestly, I think so. I don't know if I will, he doesn't seem to fit my structure, but, if you can slide him in, looks the goods if he shows any in NAB.
No. Already have...
Shaw
Swan
Pendles
Cloke
Plus maybe a rook as pies players.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
That's a big call, and short sighted IMO......he's been a proven player over a long period
Last season he started badly underdone and then was injured for an extended period
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
That's a big call, and short sighted IMO......he's been a proven player over a long period
Last season he started badly underdone and then was injured for an extended period
+1
pretty much sums it all up.
There are alot of old premiums in the forward line depends on how much risk you want. Guys like Dids, Brown and Voldt you know all have the game, if they all go through a good pre-season and nab i will pick them all up. At this stage Dids is behind Brown, Jroo, Cloke and about even with Nroo i only really want 4 of those guys.
... our forward line sounds a bit similar holz :P
Quote from: Ziplock on November 13, 2011, 12:42:47 AM
... our forward line sounds a bit similar holz :P
thats because we are both pro :)
yeah, the good news is, either we'll both beast it, or both completely fail :P
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
That's a big call, and short sighted IMO......he's been a proven player over a long period
Last season he started badly underdone and then was injured for an extended period
+ 1
very nicely said, can't rule out anyone, not even Shaun Higgins ;)
Quote from: Voldemort on November 13, 2011, 12:02:52 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
That's a big call, and short sighted IMO......he's been a proven player over a long period
Last season he started badly underdone and then was injured for an extended period
+ 1
very nicely said, can't rule out anyone, not even Shaun Higgins ;)
Tom Riddlle has a sense of humour lol
.....that'll open up a whole new can of worms if we start discussing "missy"
I know it's a big call but it's what I think.I'm not going to pick him this year and if he does awesome and you guys picked him up then you guys made the better choice. I just don't think Alan Didak will perform this year.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 12, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Quote from: nostradamus on November 12, 2011, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
That's a big call, and short sighted IMO......he's been a proven player over a long period
Last season he started badly underdone and then was injured for an extended period
+1
pretty much sums it all up.
Yep, can't agree more. Didak's terrible 2011 was entirely caused by his lack of a preseason and injury, which will hopefully not be a problem in 2012. If he stays fit and firing, Didak will be as good as ever in 2012. Plenty of players have made impressive comebacks from bad injury plagued seasons, some of whom have been older than Didak.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 12, 2011, 02:59:33 PM
Alan Didak will never be a good DT player or a good player on the field ever again.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 13, 2011, 02:07:54 PM
I know it's a big call but it's what I think.I'm not going to pick him this year and if he does awesome and you guys picked him up then you guys made the better choice. I just don't think Alan Didak will perform this year.
i was dumbfounded by this statement, what makes you think this ?? if he wasn't injured last year i would agree, not having a go by the way just want to see what makes you think this? different opinions are good for my preaseason DTing
Injuries may become a problem in 2012 and beyond. Buckley should look at some younger players so Collingwoods future can develop. He has had one bad season so he really needs to prove himself to make Collingwoods 22. With all Collingwoods forwards he needs to be awesome in the games he gets.
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 13, 2011, 04:18:46 PM
Injuries may become a problem in 2012 and beyond. Buckley should look at some younger players so Collingwoods future can develop. He has had one bad season so he really needs to prove himself to make Collingwoods 22. With all Collingwoods forwards he needs to be awesome in the games he gets.
all assumptions, where are the facts? :o
Quote from: Voldemort on November 13, 2011, 06:45:19 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on November 13, 2011, 04:18:46 PM
Injuries may become a problem in 2012 and beyond. Buckley should look at some younger players so Collingwoods future can develop. He has had one bad season so he really needs to prove himself to make Collingwoods 22. With all Collingwoods forwards he needs to be awesome in the games he gets.
all assumptions, where are the facts? :o
+1 ......seems to be trying to justify his previous opinions that he somehow believed to be facts
to be fair, there are no real facts supporting that he will bounce back, and his points are valid
1. He's on the wrong side of 30
2. His role appears to be slowly turned over to younger players
3. Injuries often reoccur.
like, legit enough arguments.
Quote from: Ziplock link=topic=44757.msg 591123#msg 591123 date=1321275362
to be fair, there are no real facts supporting that he will bounce back, and his points are valid
1. He's on the wrong side of 30
2. His role appears to be slowly turned over to younger players
3. Injuries often reoccur.
like, legit enough arguments.
+1 All we are doing here at this point in time is making assumptions based on what we've seen and experienced before. Nobody really knows what is going to happen with anyone we just assume that the norm will occur. By asking for facts all we will do is alienate people from the conversation. It's only an opinion and we are all entitled to our own just as you/me are entitled to disagree.
I personally think he will bounce back ftr.
I'll be waiting until round 22 before I make a judgement on whether didak is back. Watching his preseason.
I hope he does bounce back, he's been good to me but my gut says his body just may be passed it. This is one of the rare times where i'd like to be wrong. If he has a big pre-season and decent Nab cup i will happily choke on my comment.
Quote from: Ziplock on November 14, 2011, 11:56:02 PM
to be fair, there are no real facts supporting that he will bounce back, and his points are valid
1. He's on the wrong side of 30
Oh, so 29 is the wrong side of 30? (He's actually 28 until Feb 15)
Hahahah. Good pick-up!
Makes the decision a bit easier...
Alan Didak to miss month after tearing adductor muscle
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/alan-didak-to-miss-month-after-tearing-adductor-muscle/story-e6frf9jf-1226264321153
Bit of a shame it didn't happen later when a bunch of people had been suckered into playing him. Oh well.
That just about puts him in the DT coffin for me. It sounds like he's crocked, too many soft-tissue problems in the past 12 months.
What this does to is slightly increase the tempting to pick Sidebottom...
Quote from: Andrew on February 07, 2012, 06:04:48 PM
That just about puts him in the DT coffin for me. It sounds like he's crocked, too many soft-tissue problems in the past 12 months.
What this does to is slightly increase the tempting to pick Sidebottom...
Already have Sidebutt, so hopefully it means more points for him!