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Title: All Australian Squad
Post by: valkorum on September 06, 2011, 05:55:59 PM
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/122844/default.aspx

FYFEY made the squad
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: bomberboy0618 on September 06, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
No essendon players *rages*.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 06, 2011, 06:51:02 PM
So people don't need to load it, this is the squad of 40:


ALL-AUSTRALIAN SQUAD

Adelaide
Scott Thompson

Carlton
Eddie Betts
Chris Judd
Marc Murphy
Heath Scotland

Collingwood
Travis Cloke
Leon Davis
Scott Pendlebury
Ben Reid
Dane Swan
Dale Thomas

Fremantle
Nathan Fyfe
Luke McPharlin

Geelong
Corey Enright
Steve Johnson
James Kelly
Matthew Scarlett
Joel Selwood
Harry Taylor

Gold Coast
Gary Ablett

Hawthorn
Grant Birchall
Lance Franklin
Josh Gibson
Sam Mitchell

North Melbourne
Todd Goldstein
Drew Petrie
Andrew Swallow
Daniel Wells

Richmond
Brett Deledio

St Kilda
Nick Dal Santo
Sam Fisher
Stephen Milne

Sydney
Adam Goodes

West Coast
Dean Cox
Andrew Embley
Darren Glass
Josh Kennedy
Matt Priddis

Western Bulldogs
Matthew Boyd
Robert Murphy
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 06, 2011, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 06, 2011, 05:57:10 PM
No essendon players *rages*.
Watson surely had a case for AA top 40! Hurley was probably somewhere but agree wasn't in the top 40.

Shame Walker didn't make it for Carlton. Had a great year and I'd take him over Petrie. Can't really find alot of fault elsewhere as some reliable Guns didn't have as great years as they have previously.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Cookie Monster on September 06, 2011, 10:16:09 PM
there defiantly should have been a Fletcher, Watson or Zaharakis in there.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Maca24 on September 06, 2011, 10:27:17 PM
Can't believe Betts gets in over Walker.
And the Scarlett and Wells nominations are bizarre.  ???

My Squad.
B: Scotland, Glass, L.Davis
HB: Fisher, Taylor, Birchall
C: Thompson, Judd, Mitchell
HF: Fyfe, Franklin, S.Johnson
F: Milne, Cloke, Walker
R: Cox, Ablett, Pendlebury
INT: Goldstein, Swan, Deledio, Goodes
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: bomberboy0618 on September 06, 2011, 10:47:04 PM
Milne has had a great year. Still hate his guts though.
Has the Coleman medallist ever not been in the aa team?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 06, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Yes. Think a recent one was left out a few years ago in the same year winning it. Forgot who though....
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: pyronerd on September 06, 2011, 11:13:49 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 06, 2011, 10:50:17 PM
Yes. Think a recent one was left out a few years ago in the same year winning it. Forgot who though....
Fraser Gehrig was left out in '05 after winning the Coleman I think
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ossie85 on September 07, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 06, 2011, 10:16:09 PM
there defiantly should have been a Fletcher, Watson or Zaharakis in there.

Watson missed too many games soz. Fletcher is an outstanding player... but not this year. Zaharakis? For who?! Again not this year.

Reckon Luke Ball is a bit stiff
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 07, 2011, 04:48:17 AM
Macca why is wells suprising has porbably been the best guy down at the roos. J.P.Kennedy should feel a little ripped off along with cotchin both ahd great season (obviously hard to amke it in as a mid).
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: hawk_88 on September 07, 2011, 08:38:48 AM
In terms of Hawthorn that is the four I thought would make the squad.

Quote from: ossie85 on September 07, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
Watson missed too many games soz. Fletcher is an outstanding player... but not this year. Zaharakis? For who?! Again not this year.

Reckon Luke Ball is a bit stiff

Agree. Would have Ball before Harry O.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: MTTY on September 07, 2011, 11:31:07 AM
Nathan Bock very stiff not to make the 40.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: hawk_88 on September 07, 2011, 11:37:16 AM
The AA side I think they will pick, as opposed to the side I would pick. I would have Goldy in the side but I think they will go for one ruckman.









EnrightGlassScotland
DavisGibsonBirchall
PendleburyMitchallThomas
FyfeFranklinGoodes
JohnsonClokeMilne
CoxJuddAblett
ThompsonSwanKellyFisher

   
   



Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: PowerBug on September 07, 2011, 12:23:51 PM
I'm puzzled. Why aren't there any Port players?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 07, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
The only one I'm confused about is Eddie Betts   :o
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Fletch74 on September 07, 2011, 01:40:49 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 07, 2011, 02:20:25 AM
Quote from: Cookie Monster on September 06, 2011, 10:16:09 PM
there defiantly should have been a Fletcher, Watson or Zaharakis in there.

Watson missed too many games soz. Fletcher is an outstanding player... but not this year. Zaharakis? For who?! Again not this year.

Reckon Luke Ball is a bit stiff
Yeah, I agree as well. Essendon did not have any stand out players this year. I also think Luke Ball ahs had a good season and should have been nominated.

I wouldn't have thought Betts or Swallow would have made it.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: LF on September 07, 2011, 01:46:37 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 07, 2011, 01:03:36 PM
The only one I'm confused about is Eddie Betts   :o

same here plenty of other players that had more impact than Betts this year.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: supercoach addict on September 07, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
Yeah I don't think anyone from essendon has been outstanding this year..mabye Watson if he played more games. Luke Mcpharlin is a interesting choice.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Bluke on September 07, 2011, 04:28:50 PM
Walker definately deserved to make the cut.

Another example of the bullshower AFL commission making another bullshower decision.

Wells deserves to be there btw, betts does not.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 07, 2011, 05:23:45 PM
Quote from: supercoach addict on September 07, 2011, 02:11:32 PM
Yeah I don't think anyone from essendon has been outstanding this year..mabye Watson if he played more games. Luke Mcpharlin is a interesting choice.
It's been pointed out that Selwood only played 1 more game than Watson and got in :P. So wonder where they draw the line on how many games they must have played as Watson was certainly a standout when fully fit at the start. But agree, nobody else from the Bombers deserved to be considered.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: MTTY on September 13, 2011, 12:09:54 AM
http://www.afl.com.au/aflhq/awards/allaustralian/allaustralianteamofthe2000s/tabid/16550/default.aspx

Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 13, 2011, 05:33:35 PM
(http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8115/allaussieteam.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/706/allaussieteam.jpg/)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 13, 2011, 05:45:20 PM
No Reid? You sir, are an absolute nuff nuff.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 13, 2011, 06:03:57 PM
No, No I'm not.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 13, 2011, 06:08:41 PM
We'll see when its announced, then I will call you a nuff nuff once again for your utter stupidity.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 13, 2011, 06:26:55 PM
I just posted my team, why you getting so defensive and calling me names? Sad.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 11:39:58 AM
Because you are a nuff nuff.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 11:40:49 AM
I'd tell you not to take it to heart, but you're obviously to invested already.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 11:46:21 AM
(http://www.gpwa.org/forum/attachments/new-word-i-love-numpty-cant-resist-sorry-1637d1297215612-numpty.jpg)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: PowerBug on September 14, 2011, 11:58:46 AM
Nic pic ;)

I didn't have Reid either though. :(
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 12:06:47 PM
You also predicted Port to beat the Pies, so that is no surprise as that was the biggest numpty call of the season.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: PowerBug on September 14, 2011, 12:18:05 PM
I did. My backmen were Glass and Harry Taylor.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
My AA Squad would beat any Irish team by 300 points, make Scarlett goal keeper and replace Cox and Goldstein with Mumford to see how much arse he could kick when things got heated!
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
My AA Squad would beat any Irish team by 300 points, make Scarlett goal keeper and replace Cox and Goldstein with Mumford to see how much arse he could kick when things got heated!

You, sir, are seriously the absolute definition of a nuff nuff. >.>
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 12:47:05 PM
Haha shut up, you're the definition of someone who gets around town in blue buses licking the windows.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: PowerBug on September 14, 2011, 02:28:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 12:33:39 PM
My AA Squad would beat any Irish team by 300 points, make Scarlett goal keeper and replace Cox and Goldstein with Mumford to see how much arse he could kick when things got heated!
Mummy all the way! Along with Brogan ;) And Barry.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: bomberboy0618 on September 14, 2011, 05:31:11 PM
Shaggy its your opinion. NMF has a different one. Doesnt mean either of you are right.
Anyone going to the international rules series? Looking to go to the one at etihad if I can.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Bluke on September 14, 2011, 05:54:34 PM
8-6 epitomises your typical Collingwood supporter; he is argumentative, ignorant and one eyed with little to no substantive evidence to back up his wild claims. So he resorts to name calling and other petty methods to attack someone who did nothing wrong but share their opinion.

STFU you smart arse little cow.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 07:33:44 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 12:47:05 PM
Haha shut up, you're the definition of someone who gets around town in blue buses licking the windows.

Nuff Nuff.

Quote from: Bluke on September 14, 2011, 05:54:34 PM
8-6 epitomises your typical Collingwood supporter; he is argumentative, ignorant and one eyed with little to no substantive evidence to back up his wild claims. So he resorts to name calling and other petty methods to attack someone who did nothing wrong but share their opinion.

STFU you smart arse little cow.


I was never asked to present reasoning? Clearly been the best CHB all season, and is left out? Yeah... I must be one-eyed and when the team is actually announced, I shall mock you as well.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 07:37:43 PM
Just that it irks you so much is quiet funny and I think you're taking it way to seriously.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: MTTY on September 14, 2011, 07:39:40 PM
Here's my team

(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5269/15416610.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/546/15416610.png/)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 14, 2011, 08:17:58 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 14, 2011, 07:37:43 PM
Just that it irks you so much is quiet funny and I think you're taking it way to seriously.

Clearly, it doesn't irk me. It is just laughable how much of a numpty you are. :)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: bomberboy0618 on September 14, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
Can I have a link to the site where you are making these teams?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Boomz on September 14, 2011, 08:35:38 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on September 14, 2011, 08:33:31 PM
Can I have a link to the site where you are making these teams?

http://www.heraldsunonline.com.au/afl_2011/all-aus-best-22/
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: MTTY on September 14, 2011, 08:38:04 PM
Its on the official AFL site BB, but there is a link on one of the pages of this thread.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: bomberboy0618 on September 14, 2011, 08:41:25 PM
http://www.heraldsunonline.com.au/afl_2011/all-aus-best-22/retrieve.php?sel=4bd750157f05913e9c432365c0d8b8b5
My team. Gone for players I like so not necessarily what the AA panel will pick.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: pyronerd on September 14, 2011, 08:41:48 PM
http://www.heraldsunonline.com.au/afl_2011/all-aus-best-22/retrieve.php?sel=4714bc5d815f9ceb4d684008117c2b34 (http://www.heraldsunonline.com.au/afl_2011/all-aus-best-22/retrieve.php?sel=4714bc5d815f9ceb4d684008117c2b34)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: MTTY on September 14, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
The herald sun one has players who didnt make the 40 i think. The one i used was http://www.afl.com.au/aflhq/awards/allaustralian/allaustralianteamofthe2000s/tabid/16550/default.aspx
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: pyronerd on September 14, 2011, 09:25:46 PM
Quote from: MTTY on September 14, 2011, 08:44:57 PM
The herald sun one has players who didnt make the 40 i think. The one i used was http://www.afl.com.au/aflhq/awards/allaustralian/allaustralianteamofthe2000s/tabid/16550/default.aspx
yeah ill repost my team onto this

(http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/6173/aateam.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/aateam.png/)

Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: BoredSaint on September 14, 2011, 10:16:12 PM
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Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 15, 2011, 03:05:26 PM
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Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: plugz19 on September 15, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Marcz on September 15, 2011, 03:05:26 PM
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yo marcz wheres marc (murphy)?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 15, 2011, 04:16:16 PM
Quote from: plugz19 on September 15, 2011, 03:13:47 PM
Quote from: Marcz on September 15, 2011, 03:05:26 PM
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yo marcz wheres marc (murphy)?
was trying my best to be unbiased...

could have possibly omitted Thompson on his behalf but these r the horses that carried their midfield...

The side is setup to play aswell not just names, Petrie can play forward and dbl as 2nd ruck, GOD mid or back Yaz fwd or back...
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 15, 2011, 04:38:09 PM
I'm not afraid to say it, take our Petrie and add in Murphy. Whilst Petries season has been under rated, it's not been AA worthy and Murphy is a gun.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ossie85 on September 18, 2011, 02:50:15 AM

Brendon Goddard?!? Don't think so!

All 6 pies nominated will make the team. All-Australian selectors love the top team to dominate.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: pyronerd on September 18, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2011, 02:50:15 AM

Brendon Goddard?!? Don't think so!

All 6 pies nominated will make the team. All-Australian selectors love the top team to dominate.
if Daisy Thomas makes it I give up :P
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ossie85 on September 19, 2011, 12:47:29 AM

Name 1 player that was better off the wing and through the midfield than Daisy this year!
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 19, 2011, 01:04:45 AM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 19, 2011, 12:47:29 AM

Name 1 player that was better off the wing and through the midfield than Daisy this year!
Fyfe
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
Is the All Australian team announcement going to be on Foxtel or anything tonight?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: valkorum on September 19, 2011, 02:13:06 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 19, 2011, 12:47:29 AM

Name 1 player that was better off the wing and through the midfield than Daisy this year!

FYFEY!!!
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 19, 2011, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
Is the All Australian team announcement going to be on Foxtel or anything tonight?
It is (On Foxsports 1 for anybody interested at 9:30).

Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2011, 02:50:15 AM
Brendon Goddard?!? Don't think so!

All 6 pies nominated will make the team. All-Australian selectors love the top team to dominate.
I don't think Goddard had a great year either but don't think Daisy should get in with the midfield talent. Could be wrong as he had an awesome start to the season but I wouldn't put him in my squad :-X.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ossie85 on September 19, 2011, 04:05:10 PM

Daisy was a bit more quiet in the later half, probably because of Swan's return to form, but I think Daisy had a better year than Swan.

For me, it would be Pendles, Daisy, Judd, Murphy, Mitchell and Ablett
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 05:17:14 PM
Quote from: Hellopplz on September 19, 2011, 02:47:16 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 09:27:36 AM
Is the All Australian team announcement going to be on Foxtel or anything tonight?
It is (On Foxsports 1 for anybody interested at 9:30).

Quote from: ossie85 on September 18, 2011, 02:50:15 AM
Brendon Goddard?!? Don't think so!

All 6 pies nominated will make the team. All-Australian selectors love the top team to dominate.
I don't think Goddard had a great year either but don't think Daisy should get in with the midfield talent. Could be wrong as he had an awesome start to the season but I wouldn't put him in my squad :-X.
Damn I don't have foxtel, might have to go to a mates to watch it.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 19, 2011, 05:22:04 PM
Quote from: ossie85 on September 19, 2011, 04:05:10 PM

Daisy was a bit more quiet in the later half, probably because of Swan's return to form, but I think Daisy had a better year than Swan.

For me, it would be Pendles, Daisy, Judd, Murphy, Mitchell and Ablett
For me, Thompson makes it over Daisy. I wouldn't mind if Priddis or Boyd make it over him either :P. But it'll be hard to decide that last spot or two in the midfield.

Unlucky NMF :(. I have to choose between a few shows.... All on at 9:30 tonight ::).
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
What's your choices?
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 19, 2011, 07:22:57 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 05:43:08 PM
What's your choices?
AA, Castle, Ultimate Fighter 7 Finale and Good News World. Can catch the AA at 11:30 so may do that :-\.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 10:50:43 PM
B: Matthew Scarlett, Darren Glass, Corey Enright
HB: Robert Murphy, Ben Reid, Leon Davis
C: Dale Thomas, Sam Mitchell, Scott Pendlebury
Ruck: Dean Cox, Chris Judd, Gary Ablett
HF: Marc Murphy (Carlton), Travis Cloke (Collingwood), Dane Swan (Collingwood)
F: Stephen Milne (St Kilda), Lance Franklin (Hawthorn), Adam Goodes (Sydney Swans)
Ruck: Dean Cox (West Coast), Chris Judd (Carlton), Gary Ablett (Gold Coast)
I/C: Matthew Boyd (Western Bulldogs), Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda), James Kelly (Geelong), Drew Petrie (North Melbourne)



Official squad.


And that NMF, is why you are a Numpty nuff nuff.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 19, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Petrie doesnt deserve to make the team, Goldy should have been picked ahead of him. I would rate Petries season 4th after Swallow, Goldy and Wells
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 11:23:14 PM
Not sure how you come to that conclusion as he was in the top 5-6 as a forward plus pinch hit perfectly in the ruck when needed. He definitely deserved the spot.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: CrowsFan on September 19, 2011, 11:25:28 PM
Thompson didn't make it :(
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: CrowsFan on September 19, 2011, 11:26:26 PM
Here is the team in a much nicer looking way than what shaggy posted :P
(http://mm.afl.com.au/Portals/0/2011/finals/AA-final-2011.jpg)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 11:38:19 PM
The awkward moment when Robert Murphy makes the starting squad, when he shouldn't of even made the bench, and Josh Gibson doesn't make it, what a flowered up system. Oh yeah and Swan spends 90% of his time on ground in the middle yet gets named on a half forward line, and in turn gets Steve Johnson burned.

Wow the selections bitterly disappointed me.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: LF on September 19, 2011, 11:44:36 PM
Milne seriously?????
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
2011 Statistical Rankings

      Ranked 3rd in Total Inside 50s    
Ranked 8th in Total Goal Assists   
   Ranked 19th in Total Goals Contributed      
Ranked 1st in Total Kicks
   Ranked 16th in Total Handballs      
Ranked 1st in Total Disposals
   Ranked 4th in Inside 50s Per Game      
Ranked 13th in Goal Assists Per Game
   Ranked 1st in Kicks Per Game      
Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game

31 goals with 22 behinds makes him a valid half forward flank selections, Numpty.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: LF on September 20, 2011, 12:13:24 AM
Fyfe should have made it before Milne and Swan and Murphy are bloody midfielders.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 12:13:35 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 11:23:14 PM
Not sure how you come to that conclusion as he was in the top 5-6 as a forward plus pinch hit perfectly in the ruck when needed. He definitely deserved the spot.

not saying he didn't have a good year but there are easily 22 better players than him. His rucking wasn't that great and there were better forwards who didn't make it. Goldy had a much better year than him 741 hitouts puts him on the second most hitouts ever in a home and away season.

If you look at his stats i would argue that he deserves the number 1 ruck spot.

               Goldy v Cox
Hitouts   35.3 v 29.3     6 more hitouts is a decent amount more
Disposals 18.1 v 13.7     obviously cox big area of advantage over goldy
Clearacnes  4 v 3.7        goldy small win
tackles     4.4 v 1.8       for me this is the big difference that knowone looks at cox gets alot of touches but goldy does more                    defensively, it sounds stupid to say but cox plays like and outside mid where goldy is an in and under player.
Goals        0.6 v 0.8       indifferent
CM          0.8 v 1.8        another big win for cox.

I would argue like i always do that Gioldy is the better ruck and Cox is the better player. The AA squad seems to be just fitting in as many mids as possible so positions dont mean anthying e.g Swan.

Petire didnt do much ruck work he got less than 5 hitouts a game
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 12:14:37 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on September 20, 2011, 12:13:24 AM
Fyfe should have made it before Milne and Swan and Murphy are bloody midfielders.

I wish Dream team followed suit, i wouldn't mind selecting Murphy and swan in my forward line.

They should have a more rigid stucture where they are forced to nomiate a player for Ruck, Forward, Mid or Back.

So Swan, Murphy, Ablett..... are nomiated as mids and than the selection pannel picks out of them to fill the mid spots and as soon as the spots are filled those players can either get put on the bench or not selected.

If they keep going next year the forward line will look like this

Swan, Cloke, Murphy
Pendlebury, Franklin, Ablett
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 2 large cokes on September 20, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
absolute joke how Josh Gibson doesn't get in that team. barely any help at all in a depleted defense and dominated more of the year. only glass and reid deserve spots before him. if no equally as good as them. Robert Murphy or Corey Enright very lucky selections. most unlucky player though would have to go the Nathan Fyfe. unreal breakout year and not even a look in for a bench spot. ahead of atleast half a dozen players in that team. besides those two pretty much spot on. maybe you could throw in Scott Thompson but to be honest don't know who I'd take out so he probably misses just.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: LF on September 20, 2011, 12:17:13 AM
Quote from: Holzman on September 20, 2011, 12:14:37 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on September 20, 2011, 12:13:24 AM
Fyfe should have made it before Milne and Swan and Murphy are bloody midfielders.

I wish Dream team followed suit, i wouldn't mind selecting Murphy and swan in my forward line.

wouldn`t that just be lovely if we could do that Holz.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Swan is a MPP Fwd/Mid next season.


But Fyfe should definitely have made it and was extremely stiff. Milney would have made it for his first goals all season. -_-
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: LF on September 20, 2011, 12:21:03 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Swan is a MPP Fwd/Mid next season.


But Fyfe should definitely have made it and was extremely stiff. Milney would have made it for his first goals all season. -_-

Swan as an MPP he`d definately be in every team then.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:23:43 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on September 20, 2011, 12:21:03 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Swan is a MPP Fwd/Mid next season.


But Fyfe should definitely have made it and was extremely stiff. Milney would have made it for his first goals all season. -_-

Swan as an MPP he`d definately be in every team then.

He is pretty much in every team as it as, considering he is the #1 DreamTeam total points per game the last 2 seasons.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 12:25:19 AM
Quote from: luvfooty on September 20, 2011, 12:21:03 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:19:00 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Swan is a MPP Fwd/Mid next season.


But Fyfe should definitely have made it and was extremely stiff. Milney would have made it for his first goals all season. -_-

Swan as an MPP he`d definately be in every team then.

With 31 goals he really should be, if he wasnt such a dominatant Dter he probably would be a shoe in. I dont think they will do it though. Will be the most selected player of all time and probably the highest ever averaging forward. I would love to lock a forward in for a 120 average next year.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:29:57 AM
No difference from Cox/Sandi though. there is always at least one in pretty much every team in both forms of the fantasy game.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 12:38:04 AM
I think Josh.P>Kennedy should have made the squad and he didnt even get nominated.

#1 in Clearances and Contested Possessions (thats they type of stats of a brownlow medal winner)

I think they went to heavy on players who rack up touches as opposed to earning it i think kennedy is a better player than swan.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:40:54 AM
Just when I thought I might have had you a bit wrong Holz, you pop back up with a NMF sort of call. Not as bad as your Travis Cloke isn't the best CHF this season call, but only millimeters behind it.

I shall now pronounce you, Numpty snr.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 12:45:16 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 12:40:54 AM
Just when I thought I might have had you a bit wrong Holz, you pop back up with a NMF sort of call. Not as bad as your Travis Cloke isn't the best CHF this season call, but only millimeters behind it.

I shall now pronounce you, Numpty snr.

was it the swan call or the fact i think he should have made the AA bench.  On the spur of the moment i made the swan call i think i might take that back but definitely deserves a nomination at least. I will change it to i dont think Kennedy is that much behind swan. ( I forogt about all Swans goals, that have made him a much more rounded player).
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 01:04:11 AM
no, it was the Kennedy being a better player than Swan call. That is Numpty snr worthy. :P
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 20, 2011, 01:20:23 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
2011 Statistical Rankings

      Ranked 3rd in Total Inside 50s    
Ranked 8th in Total Goal Assists   
   Ranked 19th in Total Goals Contributed      
Ranked 1st in Total Kicks
   Ranked 16th in Total Handballs      
Ranked 1st in Total Disposals
   Ranked 4th in Inside 50s Per Game      
Ranked 13th in Goal Assists Per Game
   Ranked 1st in Kicks Per Game      
Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game

31 goals with 22 behinds makes him a valid half forward flank selections, Numpty.
Aside from goals, thanks for providing all stats that would indicates he predominately plays midfield, idiot.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 01:33:00 AM
Not the point I was making. The first part is justifying his selection, the later comment was why he should be a Flank, Numpty jnr.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Holz on September 20, 2011, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 20, 2011, 01:20:23 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 19, 2011, 11:52:15 PM
2011 Statistical Rankings

      Ranked 3rd in Total Inside 50s    
Ranked 8th in Total Goal Assists   
   Ranked 19th in Total Goals Contributed      
Ranked 1st in Total Kicks
   Ranked 16th in Total Handballs      
Ranked 1st in Total Disposals
   Ranked 4th in Inside 50s Per Game      
Ranked 13th in Goal Assists Per Game
   Ranked 1st in Kicks Per Game      
Ranked 1st in Disposals Per Game

31 goals with 22 behinds makes him a valid half forward flank selections, Numpty.
Aside from goals, thanks for providing all stats that would indicates he predominately plays midfield, idiot.

to be fair inside 50s and goal assits could be taken as somewhat forward stats. i do agree he is more of a mid than a forward, but unlike last time when he was listed as a forward you could mount a case for him.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: PowerBug on September 20, 2011, 10:12:31 AM
B: Matthew Scarlett (Geelong), Darren Glass (West Coast), Corey Enright (Geelong)
HB: Robert Murphy (Western Bulldogs), Ben Reid (Collingwood), Leon Davis (Collingwood)
C: Dale Thomas (Collingwood), Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn), Scott Pendlebury (Collingwood)
HF: Marc Murphy (Carlton), Travis Cloke (Collingwood), Dane Swan (Collingwood)
F: Stephen Milne (St Kilda), Lance Franklin (Hawthorn), Adam Goodes (Sydney Swans)
Ruck: Dean Cox (West Coast), Chris Judd (vc) (Carlton), Gary Ablett (c) (Gold Coast)
I/C: Matthew Boyd (Western Bulldogs), Nick Dal Santo (St Kilda), James Kelly (Geelong), Drew Petrie (North Melbourne)

Six Pies, Ablett as skip, Judd only vice, Cloke gets CHF, Buddy at FF.

Surprise inclusions: Robert Murphy, James Kelly.
Surprise exclusions: Scott Thompson, Todd Goldstein (As there isn't another ruckman), Fyfey.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: North Melbournes Finest on September 20, 2011, 11:38:07 AM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 01:33:00 AM
Not the point I was making. The first part is justifying his selection, the later comment was why he should be a Flank, Numpty jnr.
His selection is fine, in fact he should of made the wing, but if he's not making the wing or mids, surely he has to be on the bench because he's 90% in the midfield and he's taking someones spot who plays 90% in the forwardline. It's call the All Australian team, not the best 22 players in the league.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: RiOtChEsS on September 20, 2011, 12:11:38 PM
wont happen, Ablett kicked 44 the year before and wasnt MPP
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 2 large cokes on September 20, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
the question you have to ask to figure out the swan debate is who would u rather in your forward line? dane swan or steve johnson (probably lost his spot to swan) for me swan is a better player. but stevie is a better forward by a mile.

basically stevie j in for swanny. move swanny to the bench for one of boyd or dal.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ajjewell on September 20, 2011, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 01:33:00 AM
Not the point I was making. The first part is justifying his selection, the later comment was why he should be a Flank, Numpty jnr.
Would you be making the same point if he wasn't a pies player? There is no way he should've been named in the forward line, he deserved to get named but it should've been in a position he played in or at least on the bench
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 04:24:44 PM
Quote from: ajjewell on September 20, 2011, 04:18:16 PM
Quote from: 8-6 Suited on September 20, 2011, 01:33:00 AM
Not the point I was making. The first part is justifying his selection, the later comment was why he should be a Flank, Numpty jnr.
Would you be making the same point if he wasn't a pies player? There is no way he should've been named in the forward line, he deserved to get named but it should've been in a position he played in or at least on the bench

No, I am clearly biased. Of course I would have.

Quote from: 2 large cokes on September 20, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
the question you have to ask to figure out the swan debate is who would u rather in your forward line? dane swan or steve johnson (probably lost his spot to swan) for me swan is a better player. but stevie is a better forward by a mile.

basically stevie j in for swanny. move swanny to the bench for one of boyd or dal.

Stevie J would have lost his spot to Milney, not Swanny. That in itself is a terrible decision as Stevie J had eery right to be in the squad. But he played a hell of a lot of midfield time this season. ;)
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Justin Bieber on September 20, 2011, 06:17:19 PM
Quote from: 2 large cokes on September 20, 2011, 12:15:47 AM
absolute joke how Josh Gibson doesn't get in that team. barely any help at all in a depleted defense and dominated more of the year. only glass and reid deserve spots before him. if no equally as good as them. Robert Murphy or Corey Enright very lucky selections.
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on September 19, 2011, 11:38:19 PM
The awkward moment when Robert Murphy makes the starting squad, when he shouldn't of even made the bench, and Josh Gibson doesn't make it, what a flowered up system.
I would take Gibson over Murphy/Scarlett but guess they wanted more runners in their team ::). Would have much preferred Gibbo but Murphy was kinda a shock selection for me.

Quote from: luvfooty on September 19, 2011, 11:44:36 PM
Milne seriously?????
Milne is the perfect small forward, can sneak in goals whenever you need him to. He's had a great year and had him in mine. I can understand why he was chosen due to this season as they can't have a team without a proper small forward. But Stevie J was certainly stiff to miss out altogether! Would have had him in the other Pocket (Goodes on HF Flank and Swan benched). But even moreso, Fyfe is a big ommission :o. How does he not make the forward flank after his stellar season? Sure his team didn't finish top 8 but can't rob the man of what he deserves.

Quote from: CrowsFan on September 19, 2011, 11:25:28 PM
Thompson didn't make it :(
As above with Fyfe. I would have him over Kelly in the team easily after his consistent season. The lean on the top 4 teams seems a bit too much that it robs out players who performed extremely well in fairly average teams this season. Didn't have Boyd making it despite my obvious biasness towards him :-*.

Quote from: Holzman on September 19, 2011, 11:15:20 PM
Petrie doesnt deserve to make the team, Goldy should have been picked ahead of him. I would rate Petries season 4th after Swallow, Goldy and Wells
The other shock for me :o. I would much prefer Goldy who was in the top tier of Ruckmen this season. But where to fit him in unless it's for Cox :-\.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ossie85 on September 21, 2011, 03:52:46 AM

I love this team! Didn't predict it, but with the exception of Ben Reid (who had an outstanding season), the other 21 have been consistent contributors for quite some time.

Well done AA selectors.
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: fever on September 21, 2011, 03:17:36 PM
rob murphy did not have an all australian year
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: ajjewell on September 21, 2011, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: fever on September 21, 2011, 03:17:36 PM
rob murphy did not have an all australian year
He had a pretty good year was easily in their top couple of players, his numbers would stack up very well with players he was in competition for spots with
Title: Re: All Australian Squad
Post by: Memphistopheles on September 21, 2011, 07:24:44 PM
A bit hit and miss from the All-Australian selectors in my opinion.
On one hand they have tried to pick and actual team by including some run off half-back (Murphy) and a player who dominate up forward and pinch hit well in the ruck (Petrie).
This is per the norm in the AFL this season â€" if this team was to play it would need run off halfback and wouldn’t want two proper ruckmen.
However, they have also failed to pick enough forwards. Franklin, Cloke, Milne and Petrie are proper forwards. I guess you could argue that Goodes is also a forward, but with Franklin, Cloke and Petrie there is no room for a fourth tall forward (although arguably Goodes is could be better at Petrie’s ruck/forward role)
They picked six proper defenders so they should have done the same in the forward line.
Alternatively why did they not start some of the extra midfielders on a half-back flank instead of picking them in the forward line?
Steve Johnson in the other forward pocket and Nat Fyfe on the half-forward line should have been included.
My team
B: Scarlett, Glass, Enright
HB: Gibson, Reid, Davis
C: Boyd, Mitchell, Pendlebury
HF: Fyfe, Cloke, Goodes
F: Milne, Franklin, Johnson
R: Cox, Ablett (c), Judd.
I/C: Petrie, Swan, M Murphy, Thomas (sub).