this is the reason companies should NOT send out dero diggers to do a project without supervision...
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in Orange is the boundary line between our block and the one next door
in White text is where the drain was...
in Black is the new addition to our yard???
u can bet we r happy that this was done on a Friday and wont even be talked about until Monday >_<
WTF? That's just ridiculous...
its a noodle scratcher to be sure...
we often joked nobody would buy that block next door with that drain in it :-[
definitely going to turn into a massive shower fight over the positioning of it now ::)
:(
blow it up. Like, deadset.
;D thought has crossed our minds :-X
the suckiest part is having to wait 60 odd hours to touch base with someone who can inform us/ take action :(
With a view of the bluff from the front like you've got mate I see no need to look down back
*temporarily avert the eyes*
Tough luck, she'll be right though ;)
I could give a Batman a call? Would that help? ;)
Quote from: McRooster on May 28, 2011, 07:25:55 PM
With a view of the bluff from the front like you've got mate I see no need to look down back
*temporarily avert the eyes*
Tough luck, she'll be right though ;)
:P its not a super view but certainly could be worst ;)
Quote from: Master Q on May 28, 2011, 08:43:23 PM
I could give a Batman a call? Would that help? ;)
yes plz Q :o ;)
is their a lawyer in the house... this is gonna get ugly >:(
Quote from: Marcz on May 30, 2011, 11:43:26 AM
is their a lawyer in the house... this is gonna get ugly >:(
man what a load of crap
sorry to hear marcz
kick there ass ;)
damn thats flowered :o
im an architect and have to deal with idiot contractors on a regular basis.
this seems odd but not out of the ordinary. Is part of your block on an easement? Where was the photo taken - near the road? These urban sprawl jobs are the worst... houses get built and then the infrastructure comes after.
Any other background info Marcz?
yep there is an easement there but it was a condition of us buying the block that drain was not on it, the photo is taken from the boundary lines dividing point of 3 blocks, i managed to contact the ppl next door and it seems they have also signed on a site plan that doesnt included that drain being on their block, i spoke to the site manager who was power poor one at that, i asked why this was moved and we wernt notified yet the ppl next door knew of it, he could not give me answer other than 'idk' i told him calmly that i believe it was moved bcos oakford have an agenda to sell that block and house as nobody has bought that block in over 5 years and who would want to with a small backyard and that massive concrete hazard in it. he abused me calling an idiot and that was absolute flowering bullshower then hung up on me, i called straight back and said why if u r a manager r u abusing me and hanging up on me? he said il flowering hang up again and did... what he didnt count on was im a persistent prick and i found his car and then waited for him (shifty eyes) amazingly enough he is a really apologetic bloke when he actually has to talk face to face with me and is threatened with a lawsuit. He still had his backup about my agenda statement tho even tho i had only mentioned it that once he wanted to reiterate that they would never do that... long story getting shorter, we r all going to sit down and nut it out ::) yeah now, now that weve torn up ur yard put that drain on it we will leave it there and talk about it >:( idk what planet they r from but in my circle we plan whats to be done with all it will effect and then we go forward once all parties r happy, not just send out a group to transform someones yard without any notice and then talk about it afterwards.
end maSSive maSSive rant, apologies to those this bothers :-X
It is amazing how much attitudes change over the phone as compared to face-to-face. You can really tell what kind of person they are! Best of luck Marcz.
It is also amazing that people simply don't own up to making mistakes, and try to rewrite history.
hope you get it sorted marcz but....
what is that massive hill in the background?? hahaa
thanks Ossie and Le :) just off the phone again and we r meeting with a bunch of engineers to workout a solution tomorrow...
ur absolutely right too Oss too many ppl want to handball blame and not be accountable, we all make mistakes thats a given but being ignorant to it is only gonna make things worst... this is a good example for them(oakford) to redevelop their procedures, like sending out a rep first and stating their intentions, hell of a lot cheaper than paying a company to do a job then comeback dig it all up and relocate it, i was always fairly certain the thing would be moved, but its the process that stings, the we wont even tell them bcos we know they wont like it so lets just go ahead with it and deal with the consequences later, perhaps in the past ppl have accepted this sort of thing and thats why it played out this way :-\
ps they really should be embarrassed my pizza place has better procedures than this:
if i cannot decipher ur order address or there is an issue with either i will ring u...
if i cannot contact u via phone i will send a driver straight to ur house to confirm the details...
i will not waste time and money sending u something u do not want that i will have to replace anyway :-X
Marcz,
New estate ? Looks fairly new.
Anyway storm water drainage easements ( as well as any other ) are not negotiable.
This easement should have been on the block plans when purchased.
The water board has that easement and all housing planning needs to factor it in. It cannot be moved without
approval from the relative water board which would not happen anyway due to the risk to the water authority.
If this is a developer of the estate telling you it can be moved i think he may find he is wrong as the estate
doesn't own the pipe infrastructure --- the water authority does. It could be an expensive mistake on his part.
This peanut civil contractor needs to put it back where he found it.
Our house ( on a 1990 estate ) has a storm water easement through the back of it and we cannot build over it
nor block access to it. If we do and it needs repairs then our entire fence line and anything in the way of access
can be pulled down ( mainly enforced through the courts ).
Easements are easements and have been paid for by the authority.
If he gives you strife i would contact the water authority in your area and make them aware.
If anyone else knows different can you let Marcz know
thanks very much CFC thats some great info :) 3 independent engineers r coming tomorrow to discuss it with us, im hoping this will help put oakford back in their box, what they dont know is i went to school with one of them and he is friends with my wife, which should help sway it our way aswell, il be printing this little bit of info off tho so i can keep it handy at the meeting 8)
once again thanks for the heads up il be sure to keep u all posted and i appreciate the support guys cheers ;)
no probs Marcz
hopefully it helps but it may pay to contact the water authority before the meeting and explain the situation.
They should be able to give you ammo to go into the meeting with
good luck
well well well pinning ppl down is the way to go... after '3 engineers" were supposed to come and nothing happened i tracked down the council member in charge of it, so the agenda driven whore mongers oakford only just notified the council of what they did yesterday via email, when oakford said the council wanted it moved to us... my advice to anyone is forget ur phone u will be treated like an insignificant statistic, find the ppl responsible and state ur case calmly, the council were also not notified of our opposition to the current position of where it is now and r disgusted with the process... compensation for this will be sort and today tonight aca warm up ur cameras >:(
Why is something so damn simple so complicated? I'd be fuming Marcz, absolutely fuming.
im seething ;) not exactly visible like fuming, il try and keep my head screwed on as im more likely to be heard...
it certainly explains why the maSSive backlash over me using the word agenda bcos it hit the nail on the head and now i have the council onboard im hoping it can be adjusted to suit everyones needs, the council member already guaranteed me that it will be mesh covered regardless of how it turns out so the potential hazardous side of things r locked away...
process and compensation however is another matter altogether...
Oakford told me today they were coming to back fill it, i lol'd and said u will be burying a live person as il be chained to it...
now all work has been stalled until atleast monday when the council member can come back and look at it with all the facts, so that was a small win for the little guy...
Keep on (Pardon the Pun) top of it Chief
Quote from: naste on June 03, 2011, 01:11:51 PM
Keep on (Pardon the Pun) top of it Chief
will do Jack ;)
:o Just read all that what a bunch of ***** feel for ya >:(
big companies have been squashing the less wealthy since :-X
the deepest pocket usually has their agenda satisfied regardless of rules or law...
unless u run into a really stubborn bloke that will not lay down and will leave no stone unturned ;)
HAHA go get em 8)