Put all your info you know, hear or see right here. It'd be nice to have one thread rather than 5+ threads about him. Source your info if you can.
Cheers.
Jack Grimes to have scans on his right foot on monday
http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/113343/default.aspx
Hopefully it's not too bad. Just upgraded to him this week and feeling really down after he went down :'(.
*Peace Out Pplz.
what's the minimum amount of weeks you'll hold him for?
I think I'm about the only person who doesn't have Grimes but I'm happy now because I'll be able to get him cheap :D
Ill be holding him as long as it takes aslong as its not season ending
according to bigfooty thread Bailey said they were working on him but decided he wouldn't be right for the game. Gives me some hope it's just a sprain or some such and he misses 1-2. Broken foot and it's going to be 6+ and out for me. He a knights just killed me in a close H2H...
Quote from: SubbedOff on May 08, 2011, 11:47:48 PM
Ill be holding him as long as it takes aslong as its not season ending
8 weeks or more and he's gone for me.
i had grimes and stanton..... :'(
add to that the difference between me and my h2h in mainleague is now Goddard and Curnow v 260pts and i would have been extremely close to remaining undefeated, also chose bartel as (c) over sandi..... not the best of weeks for me.
Quote from: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 08, 2011, 11:50:32 PM
Quote from: SubbedOff on May 08, 2011, 11:47:48 PM
Ill be holding him as long as it takes aslong as its not season ending
8 weeks or more and he's gone for me.
that's a long hold Murph. I generally go 4+ and your out for premiums especially ones that are going to crash in value as I can grab them later if I reeeeaaallly want to.
I feel for Grimey, this isn't even a hammy, was determined to pick him this year, fingers crossed
I will keep him for anything under 5 weeks. Wouldn't know who to get as a replacement.
3 or more weeks and he is out of my team, i have the cash so i can bring in anyone with just 1 trade. I hope its only 1-2 though so i can get in chappy and goodes over the next 3 weeks
Quote from: Sleeken on May 09, 2011, 12:08:50 AM
I will keep him for anything under 5 weeks. Wouldn't know who to get as a replacement.
Gram, Shaw, Enright, Rawlings, assuming you have Gibbs, Lids, Godd
im super tempted to pick up shaw.
same, can't believe it but I am too. Do I smell burning fingers. If he's out for a while I'm going Shaw or Gram - pies have a really tough run home and will be focussed on finals in the last 4 weeks so weary of resting etc.
I'm hoping Suckling makes a miraculous recovery or thats two core defenders riding my pine. awesome...
quite annoying.. A foot injury can be very disruptive. Especially during rehab, and when he enters the game format aswell! I may look to offload, and if he drops another 100k or something perhaps pick him up.
And I haven't thought that through, so its a big maybe at this point.
The big issue is that if we're forced to trade him out there are so few consistent back premiums (excluding the few I currently have). Injury plagued Adcock or Scotland (worrying bye during DT finals) are about the best at the moment from memory. Booourns
Quote from: Holzman on May 09, 2011, 12:12:53 AM
im super tempted to pick up shaw.
Defiantly thinking along the same lines....but with broughton also out i have 250 to spend on a defender???
...do i take puopolo cause no others really...i have 250kish to spend???
gram or hold - this also just reaffirms Heppells importance. I'm really starting to think the kid might be a keeper this year. Scoring well above 80 with very few other defenders scoring better than him, also had two LTI's so far (Suban and Waters) so another to Grimes would mean I've gotta go for someone durable.
Still - the early news is promising. Ill hold him for anything under 6 weeks.
I might go Grimes > K. Hunt
My team honestly couldn't get any worse so I don't think it'd really matter.
Quote from: Nails on May 09, 2011, 01:04:03 AM
I might go Grimes > K. Hunt
My team honestly couldn't get any worse so I don't think it'd really matter.
sounds a bit fatalist Nails...I'm looking at a 1-3 start despite being top of total points (by a way) in my main league and ranked top 1%. DT can be a fickle game but a run of good luck is only round the corner!
Waters, Grimes, Higgins, Stevie J...
Swan and Pendles out this week with the latter 3 combining for 6 points...
Plus I picked spud rookies in Irons, Buckley, Cam Richardson and Charlie Dixon.
I completely missed Curnow and Darling. No amount of luck can turn this season around. I might start writing a book though
"How to NOT DT"
What about Swan Nick Smith as a bit of a smoky. Relatively cheap on the up and the midfield Golden oldies may drop off such Goodes, ROK and Bolton also Jack injured.
Currently my backline is:
Gibbs, Goddard, Deledio, Enright,
Grimes, Heppell, Otten, (Stanley,
Duigan, Lower)
Depending on how bad Grimes’ injury is, I’ll either be trading out him or Duigan for one of the players below (I’m willing to hold Grimes if he’ll be returning within the next month or so as my focus is league not overall). There doesn’t appear to be a huge amount of high quality backmen to choose from this year, especially due to Broughton/Duffield underperforming, and now Grimes. I’ve narrowed down my options to 5 players and given my thoughts on them:
Shaw:
- Scoring history: 75 (PA), 65 (NM), 105 (CARL), 85 (RICH), 110 (ESS), 117 (WB)
- Was subbed off in the 3rd qtr of the North game, hence the poor score.
- Playing for the best team in the competition â€" tends to bode well for DT scores (i.e. Geelong/St Kilda players of the past few seasons)
- Can pull out scores of 120+ or scores under 60 â€" fine for overall as the total points is all that matters, but inconsistency is terrible for league matches
- Usually susceptible to a heavy forward tag, however he has beaten all tags so far this year (has been tagged by Carrazzo, McVeigh, White, Ward)
- Usually misses 3 or 4 games throughout the year. Hasn’t played the full 22 games since 2007
- Faces St Kilda (82.9 average), Brisbane (76.8 ), Fremantle (55), and Geelong (86.1) during DT finals. Also there’s the high risk of the Pies resting players near the end of the year if they’ve secured top spot.
Gram:
- Scoring history: 106 (GEE), 82 (RICH), 116 (ESS), 84 (BL), 54 (ADE), __ (CARL)
- Would prefer to wait for him to bottom out before I bring him in once he has bottomed out (i.e. once that 54 is out of his 3 game running average)
- Prior to last year, he was very durable only missing 3 games in 4 years. Looks fit this year.
- St Kilda struggling means his scores are likely to be inconsistent
- Faces Collingwood (82.9), Sydney (52.8 ), North Melbourne (92.9), and Carlton (88.0) during DT finals. Sydney is a red flag but I should finish top 4 and I’ll back myself to win first week of finals giving me the bye during the second week.
Adcock:
- Scoring history: 53 (FRE), 112 (WB), 123 (MEL), 119 (STK), 95 (RICH), 91 (GC)
- Obviously missed the bandwagon (I was one of the sorry souls that kept faith in Broughton), but I have plenty of cash and not phased at bringing him in despite his price rise assuming he maintains his good form.
- Injury prone â€" played at total 24 games the past two seasons. No signs so far this year though (touch wood)
- Playing for one of the worst teams in the competition which could impact his scoring (to this point though it hasn’t impacted negatively though). Have only seen one Lions game (vs Melbourne, Rnd 3), but based on his DT scores I’m assuming he’s been one of the better Lions players this year. Anyone able to tell me whether he’s been very damaging or just a DT slut? (i.e. is he likely to get tagged?)
- Faces Gold Coast (91), Collingwood (83.8 ), West Coast (54.5), and Sydney (76.0) during DT finals.
Scotland:
- Scoring history: 79 (RICH), 86 (GC), 98 (CWD), 98 (ESS), 94 (ADE), 105 (SYD), __ (STK)
- Scoring hasn’t been outstanding, but very consistent. He is capable of massive scores.
- With a team of Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, etc, he shouldn’t get tagged to heavily.
- Faces Fremantle (81), Hawthorn (72.7), BYE, and St Kilda (87.3) during DT finals. Already have Gibbs in my team meaning I would have two guns out during week 3 of the finals. This pretty much rules him out for me only thing is if I have him to help me win week 1 of finals and then trade him out before the bye. Trades could be running low then though.
Rawlings:
- Scoring history: 104 (WCE), 76 (CWD), 54 (FRE), 86 (RICH), 105 (PA), 105 (GEE)
- Probably my least preferred option at this stage, but can’t ignore his scoring.
- Age â€" turns 30 in June. Not sure that this should be a huge concern as he’s looking strong.
- Incredible durability â€" only missed 2 games the past 5 seasons
- Tagging â€" can get stuck with tagging jobs, but from memory it doesn’t seem to affect his scoring too dramatically (similar to K. Cornes in that sense)
- Like Adcock, he’s playing for one of the worst teams in the competition which could impact his scoring (to this point though it hasn’t impacted negatively though).
- Faces BYE, Fremantle (68.7), St Kilda (68.3) and Richmond (56.8 ) during DT finals. Bye during week one of the finals immediately puts me off as I’d be viewing this match as a must win in order to get the second week bye.
I’m leaning towards Adcock or Shaw. What are people’s thoughts? Agree/disagree with any points? Anything to add? Anyone else I should be looking at?
I would probably go Shaw over Adcock. Now that Drummond is back I think we can expect to see a drop in Adcock's numbers. I know he did ok this week with Drummond but he got about 50 in the 4th quarter and you won't see that every week.
Quote from: someguy on May 09, 2011, 01:35:42 AM
Currently my backline is:
Gibbs, Goddard, Deledio, Enright, Grimes, Heppell, Otten, (Stanley, Duigan, Lower)
Depending on how bad Grimes’ injury is, I’ll either be trading out him or Duigan for one of the players below (I’m willing to hold Grimes if he’ll be returning within the next month or so as my focus is league not overall). There doesn’t appear to be a huge amount of high quality backmen to choose from this year, especially due to Broughton/Duffield underperforming, and now Grimes. I’ve narrowed down my options to 5 players and given my thoughts on them:
Shaw:
- Scoring history: 75 (PA), 65 (NM), 105 (CARL), 85 (RICH), 110 (ESS), 117 (WB)
- Was subbed off in the 3rd qtr of the North game, hence the poor score.
- Playing for the best team in the competition â€" tends to bode well for DT scores (i.e. Geelong/St Kilda players of the past few seasons)
- Can pull out scores of 120+ or scores under 60 â€" fine for overall as the total points is all that matters, but inconsistency is terrible for league matches
- Usually susceptible to a heavy forward tag, however he has beaten all tags so far this year (has been tagged by Carrazzo, McVeigh, White, Ward)
- Usually misses 3 or 4 games throughout the year. Hasn’t played the full 22 games since 2007
- Faces St Kilda (82.9 average), Brisbane (76.8 ), Fremantle (55), and Geelong (86.1) during DT finals. Also there’s the high risk of the Pies resting players near the end of the year if they’ve secured top spot.
Gram:
- Scoring history: 106 (GEE), 82 (RICH), 116 (ESS), 84 (BL), 54 (ADE), __ (CARL)
- Would prefer to wait for him to bottom out before I bring him in once he has bottomed out (i.e. once that 54 is out of his 3 game running average)
- Prior to last year, he was very durable only missing 3 games in 4 years. Looks fit this year.
- St Kilda struggling means his scores are likely to be inconsistent
- Faces Collingwood (82.9), Sydney (52.8 ), North Melbourne (92.9), and Carlton (88.0) during DT finals. Sydney is a red flag but I should finish top 4 and I’ll back myself to win first week of finals giving me the bye during the second week.
Adcock:
- Scoring history: 53 (FRE), 112 (WB), 123 (MEL), 119 (STK), 95 (RICH), 91 (GC)
- Obviously missed the bandwagon (I was one of the sorry souls that kept faith in Broughton), but I have plenty of cash and not phased at bringing him in despite his price rise assuming he maintains his good form.
- Injury prone â€" played at total 24 games the past two seasons. No signs so far this year though (touch wood)
- Playing for one of the worst teams in the competition which could impact his scoring (to this point though it hasn’t impacted negatively though). Have only seen one Lions game (vs Melbourne, Rnd 3), but based on his DT scores I’m assuming he’s been one of the better Lions players this year. Anyone able to tell me whether he’s been very damaging or just a DT slut? (i.e. is he likely to get tagged?)
- Faces Gold Coast (91), Collingwood (83.8 ), West Coast (54.5), and Sydney (76.0) during DT finals.
Scotland:
- Scoring history: 79 (RICH), 86 (GC), 98 (CWD), 98 (ESS), 94 (ADE), 105 (SYD), __ (STK)
- Scoring hasn’t been outstanding, but very consistent. He is capable of massive scores.
- With a team of Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, etc, he shouldn’t get tagged to heavily.
- Faces Fremantle (81), Hawthorn (72.7), BYE, and St Kilda (87.3) during DT finals. Already have Gibbs in my team meaning I would have two guns out during week 3 of the finals. This pretty much rules him out for me only thing is if I have him to help me win week 1 of finals and then trade him out before the bye. Trades could be running low then though.
Rawlings:
- Scoring history: 104 (WCE), 76 (CWD), 54 (FRE), 86 (RICH), 105 (PA), 105 (GEE)
- Probably my least preferred option at this stage, but can’t ignore his scoring.
- Age â€" turns 30 in June. Not sure that this should be a huge concern as he’s looking strong.
- Incredible durability â€" only missed 2 games the past 5 seasons
- Tagging â€" can get stuck with tagging jobs, but from memory it doesn’t seem to affect his scoring too dramatically (similar to K. Cornes in that sense)
- Like Adcock, he’s playing for one of the worst teams in the competition which could impact his scoring (to this point though it hasn’t impacted negatively though).
- Faces BYE, Fremantle (68.7), St Kilda (68.3) and Richmond (56.8 ) during DT finals. Bye during week one of the finals immediately puts me off as I’d be viewing this match as a must win in order to get the second week bye.
I’m leaning towards Adcock or Shaw. What are people’s thoughts? Agree/disagree with any points? Anything to add? Anyone else I should be looking at?
dudeeee....
i love dt as much as the next person but that had to have taken you an hour to write up. outrageous, sorry i couldnt be bothered reading something that long lol
good write-up, very impressed :)
I'm liking Gram a lot, have him in my long term best team so that's where I'd go.
Good work someguy
Quote from: lukedogg17 on May 09, 2011, 02:37:50 AM
dudeeee....
i love dt as much as the next person but that had to have taken you an hour to write up. outrageous, sorry i couldnt be bothered reading something that long lol
took about half an hour lol. When there's no clear option I like to be able to lay out all factors in front of me and work out what is most likely the best option. Don't expect everyone to read it, but I don't know why you felt the need to comment that you couldn't be bothered ???
Quote from: glynman90 on May 09, 2011, 01:48:53 AM
I would probably go Shaw over Adcock. Now that Drummond is back I think we can expect to see a drop in Adcock's numbers. I know he did ok this week with Drummond but he got about 50 in the 4th quarter and you won't see that every week.
Good point. I think I may bring in Shaw this week and wait a few more weeks to see if Adcock can keep his form up with Drummond in. If he maintains his form, I'll bring him in, but if not it'll probably be Gram (assuming he maintains his form).
Thanks for the write up!! Rawlings is definetely on my radar now...
nice write up mate... will sure be re reading this when/if it comes to trading out grimes.... arghhhh Grimes you ruin my trades..
great job mate appreciate all the research u put into this and the fact u shared it too 8)
I had Grimes and Stevie J, killed me. Lost both H2H by about 100.
grimes,stevie.j,rioli,higgins,pendles and krak all this week.still going to get a decent score as my other players did quite well but bascially 4 premiums out aaarrrgghhhh.
I have him too like most, if it's 6+ weeks then will upgrade him or can put N.Lower in as cover..... :-\
Quote from: Nails on May 09, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
Waters, Grimes, Higgins, Stevie J...
Swan and Pendles out this week with the latter 3 combining for 6 points...
Plus I picked spud rookies in Irons, Buckley, Cam Richardson and Charlie Dixon.
I completely missed Curnow and Darling. No amount of luck can turn this season around. I might start writing a book though
"How to NOT DT"
Ouch Nails :(. I missed Curnow so you're not alone there :D. I also picked Richardson and Dixon :P. Traded in Grimes this round -_-.
Great write up someguy, alot of research done! More than I would be bothered doing though :P. Adcock and Shaw look like sideways for me with Grimes in out for 5+ weeks (already have Scotland). Anything within a month will likely keep him in with playing benchies :D.
*Peace Out Pplz.
Quote from: thanme on May 09, 2011, 12:20:28 PM
Thanks for the write up!! Rawlings is definetely on my radar now...
Has a bye rnd 21 this is bad
but not terrible as hopefully by then someone like Heppell is you perma-cover (possibly for back and mids) so the differential on the day might only be a few points.
Loves having to oust both Bruce & maybe Grimes. :'(
If it happens are there any 250-280 K players?
Mackie.... :-\
SO I can upgrade Bruce to Rawlings etc.
I love how this topic has flourished. My baby has done me proud. Thanks for everyone contributing to this post and not making amillion Grimes threads!
yeah, for long term injury, upgrading grimes to someone like enright, scotland, rawlings, shaw, seems like the best option.
:( Just heard on ten news the Grimes is out for the season!
Quote:( Just heard on ten news the Grimes is out for the season!
Just turned it on. Must have missed it.....You better not be joking.
twitter going crazy that grimes' season may be over
100% Sure the news reader said something along the lines of " Devastating news for Melbourne with defender Jack Grimes out for the season with foot injury"
Can't remember what he said word for word, but I know he said he was out for the season... :( Damn :(
Quotetwitter going crazy that grimes' season may be over
BUGGER. :( Looks like I'm ousting Bruce & Grimes this week.
I'll have to out Grimes too... Was doing so well too :(
He has a navicular stress fracture in his foot.
Season=DONE.
poor bloke... let's hope he makes a full recovery and can actually play footy again =[
on the dt front, what to do with him!? i'm thinking shaw or gram - hopefully gram stinks it up big time tonight with that massive b/e to fall near grimesys price
yerhh i've grown to have a man crush on him :( poor fella, hope he recovers well and soon and be fighting fit for next year!
Well Grimes will be about $ 300,000 now after his 6.
Looks like a Grimes>Jacobs is what I will be doing, since I have no cash. Then upgrade Bruce with cash in hand.
OR
Get Mackie and then try and get Symes.
That's too dodgy. ???
I'm thinking either Gram or Lids... Was planning on finishing off my back line this week with either one of the guys I mentioned. Now I have to get them in to fill the void for Grimes :(
lets look on the birght side
he should be a nice pick up next year :)
Heard on SEN
YEP :'( ......on melbourne fc website http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/7415/newsid/113432/default.aspx
Yeah, he is gone.
was hoping he would be able to put in a whole season hopefully i have enough cover to hold him for a couple more weeks whilst my cow finish building and wait for next batch to hit the bubble
:'( horrible for dt but spare a thought for him.
he has had such a horrible run with injuries and he is so very young :(
Great :'(
Well this is good for me since I don't have Grimes so I'll be a trade up on everyone. Unfortunately I had Broughton at the start so it's pretty much evened out now.
at least you didnt have both!
Also, 1400+ views at this topic. Thats getting pretty high, almost high enough to get the 'IMPORTANT, Please read before posting' topic's respect (4000 odd views)..
Im happy with that :)
geez that throws my trade plans out the window for this week :(
Quote from: luvfooty on May 09, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
geez that throws my trade plans out the window for this week :(
same here, i had everything set for the next 2 weeks :(
Quote from: elephants on May 09, 2011, 07:06:32 PM
:'( horrible for dt but spare a thought for him.
he has had such a horrible run with injuries and he is so very young :(
Yeah! Got to feel for him. Over his other injuries and just his luck, another one appears :(. Unfortunate as he has so much talent.
On my DT, I have to spend 2 trades from Duigan to somebody else with Grimes out for the Season :'(.
*Peace Out Pplz.
I feel so bad for him. I finally got luck though, considering I didn't have him. Still managed to have everyone else...
Good luck to all you Grimes owners. Personally, I'd go Heath Shaw.
Quote from: luvfooty on May 09, 2011, 07:47:33 PM
geez that throws my trade plans out the window for this week :(
me 2. Sandi was gonna be in this week but not now. Big McEvoy has done me proud so its not so bad
With Grimes gone for the season, I think I might let him sit the pine for a week or so (probably with Bruce), before I trade either of them out. I have enough bench cover for the next one or two weeks, and their prices won't change, whereas Duffield can only go further south, and Sylvia will be out of my reach sooner rather than later. Anyone else considering letting Grimes/multiple weekers ride the pine with no price drop?
I'm not - welcome H. Shaw to my side
I'm going to wait the week before deciding on Puopolo, but I've got cash cows to sell coming up so my next two weeks will probably be:
WEEK 1: Grimes -> Heath Shaw
WEEK 2: McKernan -> Puopolo or Hibberd/Jacobs, D. Swallow -> I. Smith
I've got Delideo, Goddard, Adcock, Gibbs, and Enright already so I think Heath Shaw is the best pick at this point in time (don't want two Carlton by getting Scotland/Carrazzo). But we'll see what selection night throws up...
Im not going to fall into the heath shaw trap again this year like I do every year. The guy starts the year off well every year and then once everyone has jumped on he decided he is done scoring any good for the year and racks up scores of 60.
He started the year with scores of 75 and 65? He's looking to me like an MCG specialist - and the Pies play ALOT of games at the MCG...
Quote from: Fenno on May 10, 2011, 12:28:15 PM
Im not going to fall into the heath shaw trap again this year like I do every year. The guy starts the year off well every year and then once everyone has jumped on he decided he is done scoring any good for the year and racks up scores of 60.
If you know that he's going to start well each year and then struggle, why not get him round 1 and use him as a high-scoring cash cow?
He looks different this year though. Looks like he's playing at an all new level. Really considering him.
I'm waiting for a week or 2 and try to pick up enright for a straight swap.
Quote from: popedelio on May 10, 2011, 01:08:16 PM
I'm waiting for a week or 2 and try to pick up enright for a straight swap.
If I didn't get Enright for Duigan last week I'd so be doing this. He'll be a juicy price in a week or two.
Would Brady Rawlings be a better bet than Heath Shaw? With the finals bye I'm tending to stay away from him. But he's the only other alternative I see as I'm not keen on Gram or any St. Kilda players really.
Need some help, I can downgrade Grimes, to someone like Puopolo (will he play?) Or I can wait a week and straight swap him for Gram.
Atm my backline stands:
B.Goddard, B.Gibbs, B.Deledio, C.Enright, D.Heppell, J.Grimes and N.Lower.. Will it be too weak if I downgrade Grimes?
Cheers
There are already a few threads about Grimes. Go looking in there. People aren't keen to respond to the same question 10 times.
I was clearly asking about my team and how it would affect mine, not everyone elses.
Quote from: LaHug on May 10, 2011, 02:07:13 PM
There are already a few threads about Grimes. Go looking in there. People aren't keen to respond to the same question 10 times.
+1
but for the sake of it, wait a week and if puopolo does well put him in, if he doesn't then put in gram.
Exactly like mine
Mine is:
Goddard, Gibbs,Rawlings,Broughton,Grimes,Heppell,Lower or Dauigen
So i am thinking going Grimes to Enright this week and downgrade Dauigen to Puopolo?
So it will be Goddard,Gibbs,Rawlings,Enright,Broughton,Heppell and Lower then in the next few weeks upgrade Lower to Delidio when he drops in price?
People seem keen on Rawlings? Is he the go to man if your getting rid of Grimes?
i went with Newman dude,
you make money on him and he has a better average.
Him and deleido are the generals in Richmond's back line
Quote from: kevin07 on May 10, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
I was clearly asking about my team and how it would affect mine, not everyone elses.
You really look like a douche now. Your asking about your team but your team is exactly the same as everyone else's. Stop being a tool and have a look at the grimes thread that everyone else on here seems to be able use. There is some very useful info over there. We get very sick of people asking the same question a hundred times a week.
^ Pretty much, your backs are identical to nearly everyone elses, the only difference between your backline and my own is that I have adcock not enright. The answer, ftr, is yes, your badckline will be too weak if you downgrade grimes.
Quote from: kevin07 on May 10, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
I was clearly asking about my team and how it would affect mine, not everyone elses.
Except that everyone else's teams are similar. And even if they're not, you can always post your particular team in the other threads AFTER reading through and seeing if your question has already been answered.
If you want to be specific to YOUR team, post it in Rate My Dream Team: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/board,11.0.html
I don't have Grimes and don't want to see 10000000 Grimes threads and not be able to find answers about my own problems. Please consider others.
Quote from: 4820 on May 10, 2011, 12:09:40 PM
I'm not - welcome H. Shaw to my side
Exactly my thinking. I'll be downgrading Curnow to Smith/Jacobs to free up a ton of cash then boosting Grimes to H. Shaw. He is the perfect candidate; although i hate his guts, opposition teams can't tag him every week (too many pies players to focus on), racks it up basically from full back to centre field and plays in the best team by a long margin. Done and done...
I too have the problem of these guys, am thinking of going to Newman for Grimes given I dont have any cash to upgrade him unless I trade Duigan to someone like Hibberd or Puopolo? What is everyones thoughts on this?
Will Hibberd/Puopolo get much of a run this year? I prefer Hibberd for the DPP.
Everyone seems to be going Newman. This means it's relatively safe, but not at all unique.
Quote from: LaHug on May 10, 2011, 02:26:59 PM
Quote from: kevin07 on May 10, 2011, 02:08:47 PM
I was clearly asking about my team and how it would affect mine, not everyone elses.
Except that everyone else's teams are similar. And even if they're not, you can always post your particular team in the other threads AFTER reading through and seeing if your question has already been answered.
If you want to be specific to YOUR team, post it in Rate My Dream Team: http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/board,11.0.html
I don't have Grimes and don't want to see 10000000 Grimes threads and not be able to find answers about my own problems. Please consider others.
+1
if you need help on grimes here's the big link:
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,34392.0.html
well seeing as i didnt get Gibbs from the start, ill be able to pick him up now for Grimes for 40k less. BANG.
Quote from: BillMurray on May 10, 2011, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: 4820 on May 10, 2011, 12:09:40 PM
I'm not - welcome H. Shaw to my side
Exactly my thinking. I'll be downgrading Curnow to Smith/Jacobs to free up a ton of cash then boosting Grimes to H. Shaw. He is the perfect candidate; although i hate his guts, opposition teams can't tag him every week (too many pies players to focus on), racks it up basically from full back to centre field and plays in the best team by a long margin. Done and done...
Welcome Heath Shaw to my team this week and Enright round 9 :)
Quote from: lnugawela on May 10, 2011, 02:40:41 PM
I too have the problem of these guys, am thinking of going to Newman for Grimes given I dont have any cash to upgrade him unless I trade Duigan to someone like Hibberd or Puopolo? What is everyones thoughts on this?
Will Hibberd/Puopolo get much of a run this year? I prefer Hibberd for the DPP.
I'd even go someone like Ben Jacobs, he'll surely be considered this week, and will have much better JS than Puopolo & Hibberd.
Thoughts on Pratt for Grimes?
Quote from: BillMurray on May 10, 2011, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: 4820 on May 10, 2011, 12:09:40 PM
I'm not - welcome H. Shaw to my side
Exactly my thinking. I'll be downgrading Curnow to Smith/Jacobs to free up a ton of cash then boosting Grimes to H. Shaw. He is the perfect candidate; although i hate his guts, opposition teams can't tag him every week (too many pies players to focus on), racks it up basically from full back to centre field and plays in the best team by a long margin. Done and done...
Im doing the reverse, grimes to jacobs and curnow to selwood, than im picking up enright for stanley the week after.
everyone jumping on jacobs ?? and hasn't played yet...??
I too would get Jacobs....But it would leave my defense to weak. I have had Bruce on the pine and it's time to move him along.
Looking at getting a couple of semi-guns (Kennelly & Murphy or something like that)
Not to keen, I might just trade Grimes and sit for a week for a fallen premium to snaffle up.
Wait till Jacobs plays 2, the cows will fatten up and it would be a perfect trade in.
Quote from: PowerMan on May 10, 2011, 04:03:12 PM
Quote from: lnugawela on May 10, 2011, 02:40:41 PM
I too have the problem of these guys, am thinking of going to Newman for Grimes given I dont have any cash to upgrade him unless I trade Duigan to someone like Hibberd or Puopolo? What is everyones thoughts on this?
Will Hibberd/Puopolo get much of a run this year? I prefer Hibberd for the DPP.
I'd even go someone like Ben Jacobs, he'll surely be considered this week, and will have much better JS than Puopolo & Hibberd.
Been hearing that for the last three weeks. There are no
surely's in football.
So glad I don't have Grimes :)
Jacobs carved again in SANFL.
He will play. 8)
:P
Quote from: Master Q on May 10, 2011, 05:16:54 PM
So glad I don't have Grimes :)
Thanks for the helpfull input you idiot
Quote from: bundyboy on May 10, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
everyone jumping on jacobs ?? and hasn't played yet...??
doesnt matter he will be playing soon, plays for a bottom 4 team and from indications should scroe very well. Heppel didnt score that much in the NAB yet from past stats many still took him and he has proved to be a great pick. Jacobs looks like he is in a simular postion to that, no real scores to back up his game but with the potential and the fact he is DPP and we have 3 bench players than why not. Probably better than a guy like puopolo.
Quote from: Andrew on May 10, 2011, 12:43:51 PM
He started the year with scores of 75 and 65? He's looking to me like an MCG specialist - and the Pies play ALOT of games at the MCG...
He seems to get a fair bit of game time with the crappy sub rule. Hello Shaw. Goodbye Grimes
Im keeping Grimes for at least this weekend. Gram on the way down so should be able to straight swap him this week or next. Otherwise ill get shaw - he wont score to well this weekend IMO so should halt his rise a little and drop in value a bit hopefully.
yes another useless comment from Q
Quote from: bundyboy on May 10, 2011, 05:10:29 PM
everyone jumping on jacobs ?? and hasn't played yet...??
I think the DPP is very handy for coaches and it's only a matter of when not if he'll play. Highly rated and should have plenty of opportunities soon enough.
Quoteyes another useless comment from Q
There is a lot of useless comments from him aren't there....Just like this one.
Just an example^^^^^^^^ 8)
Quote from: Windigo on May 10, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
Quoteyes another useless comment from Q
There is a lot of useless comments from him aren't there....Just like this one.
Just an example^^^^^^^^ 8)
Nice useless comment.
Don't see what's wrong with saying I don't have Grimes? Really relieved that's all ;)
QuoteNice useless comment.
Don't see what's wrong with saying I don't have Grimes? Really relieved that's all ;)
Haha, but a lot of people have Grimes and you are just lucky. >:(
Dream team is all about getting the guy in just before he starts to score well so i just want to get you thougths on these guys as a nice replacement for grimes??
NewmanAverage this year 77.7 BE 80 Price $301,000
Past four games 86, 72, 56, 114
Average past 3 years
2010 - 82
2009 - 79
2008 - 82
Already got Lids in my backs
- Compared to other backs not doing too bad also take into consideration that Richmond have found some form this might mean he might find some footy
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Gilbee
Average this year 69.25 BE 123 Price $306,000
Past four games 74, 45, 80, 78
Average past 3 years
2010 - 82.1
2009 - 84.7
2008 - 78.6
- He has the potential to score like he has done in previous seasons but then he was playing in a better bulldogs side
- He has M/B link
- Can push up to midfield
- Had an injury earlier this year
[li]Already had one bye
Not asking too much from these guys if they can average 87 same as grimes from now on will be happy nothing spectacular what you reckon???
Please leave a replay with your thoughts and any other suggestion to anyone else around the 320k range for backs to get in im not looking to upgrade to Rawlings/Shaw/Scottland simply because i dont have the cash and have already used up too many trades
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I would not touch Gilbee. Newman can be up and down....
Personally I'm looking at Tadgh.
Not lucky. Legen... Wait for it... Dary
You're looking at defenders averaging 60-80 and I can't really see either of them averaging 80+ ... 81 or 82 maybe but I doubt they'll get over 79.
I'd nearly prefer to get Benny Jacobs in for Grimes and play him for a while and use the cash to go to a real premo later down the track. I think B. Jacobs is a rookie who could average 70-80 himself...
I don't like spending a trade on Newman or Gilbee, they could be toxic to your team this year IMO.
Quotethey could be toxic to your team this year IMO.
(Whispers) Tadgh?
Quote from: Windigo on May 10, 2011, 06:12:27 PM
Quotethey could be toxic to your team this year IMO.
(Whispers) Tadgh?
Tadhg burnt a lot of teams this year.
I traded him out then that round I traded him out he scored a 0 if you remember :D I was trololol. Poor Tadhg.
Likes his injuries a bit too much, but could be somewhat reasonable... If you take out his 0 from last year he still only averaged 74-75... I'd be afraid, if I'm getting rid of Grimes I'd want to be getting a definite premium or a definite downgrade.
i.e. Heater Shaw or Ben Jacobs.
There'd be nothing worse for those (including myself) with Grimes to trade him to Newman/Gilbee/Kennelly only to have them averaging 75 and needing another trade wasted for another upgrade
Jacobs has a good chance Windigo.
Heath Shaw has been up and down in the past, so it's hard to say he's any better than the other options. At the moment, he looks the good though.
And all the people saying that these "average" guys aren't good enough need to realise that there aren't really any backs this year that are good enough.
I say that people should just go with their guts, take a punt and have fun!
QuoteJacobs has a good chance Windigo.
I KNOW, only I have to get rid Bruce & Grimes.
Worth going Grimes>Jacobs then Bruce>any back men?
Or going Grimes>Ben Jacobs, then make some cash and upgrade Harris>Jobe or Mundy???
If I do that my backs would be so sh*t....
Goddard, Gibbs, Adcock, Lower, Stanley, Jacobs & Puopolo. Then I'm about set every where else I would work on my backs, but I haven't got the guts to do it.
Windigo: Same dilemma as you. It would be very tempting to downgrade Grimes and get more midfield firepower, but that'd kill my backs. Then again, your points have to come from somewhere right?? Might be beneficial anyway. I think you'd be better off with a premo mid than a back at the moment.
Yeah true. It would leave me with 18 trades, basically for my backs.
My dodgy mids (If I do this trade)
Swan, Boyd, Watson/Mundy, A.Swallow, Boak & Redden.
I think my mid scores will fluctuate because of the last 3.......Hm, but 18 trades for my backs and for injuries
FWDS (Right Now) Looking at A Darling Upgrade:
N.Reiwoldt, Franklin, Sylvia, Stevie J, Higgins, Petrie & DARLING.
If you're tossing up between Watson and Mundy, I'd go Mundy.
QuoteIf you're tossing up between Watson and Mundy, I'd go Mundy.
No love for Jobe? :P
Quote from: Windigo on May 10, 2011, 08:00:13 PM
QuoteIf you're tossing up between Watson and Mundy, I'd go Mundy.
No love for Jobe? :P
Nah, just more love for Mundy...
Thinking of Grimes>Jacobs then Bruce>Rawlings/Enright?
Then next week......With my $ 180,400 upgrade Harris $ 234,200 B/E of 13. It would give me $ 414,600 for a mid.....For next week. Jimmy Bartel springs to mind
Quote from: Windigo on May 10, 2011, 07:40:47 PM
QuoteJacobs has a good chance Windigo.
I KNOW, only I have to get rid Bruce & Grimes.
Worth going Grimes>Jacobs then Bruce>any back men?
Or going Grimes>Ben Jacobs, then make some cash and upgrade Harris>Jobe or Mundy???
If I do that my backs would be so sh*t....
Goddard, Gibbs, Adcock, Lower, Stanley, Jacobs & Puopolo. Then I'm about set every where else I would work on my backs, but I haven't got the guts to do it.
do that. get in lids or enright and you have spare cash for next week when midfielders drop again to take your pick. Harris will rise anyway why waste the money he will make?
Quote from: Windigo on May 10, 2011, 08:12:09 PM
Thinking of Grimes>Jacobs then Bruce>Rawlings/Enright?
Then next week......With my $ 180,400 upgrade Harris $ 234,200 B/E of 13. It would give me $ 414,600 for a mid.....For next week. Jimmy Bartel springs to mind
Very Good Idea.
Master Q, I have 16 trades and $196k left. What do you think of:
Grimes -> Heath Shaw
Curnow -> Rischitelli
Or should I just do Curnow -> Pendlebury this week (leaves me with $10k) and wait on Grimes to see how Puopolo, Hibberd, and Jacobs go at the selection table the next two weeks? (like most I need Hibberd/Jacobs dual position)
I know I'm not Q, but getting Pendlebury before the second bye should really depend on whether or not you have Swan. Also, Pendles is almost sure to drop because of his B/E.
I would go the first trade and get Pendlebury after the bye.
Quote from: LaHug on May 10, 2011, 09:06:50 PM
I know I'm not Q, but getting Pendlebury before the second bye should really depend on whether or not you have Swan. Also, Pendles is almost sure to drop because of his B/E.
I would go the first trade and get Pendlebury after the bye.
Two stars is twice as many as me mate :P Yeah I do have Swan and I'm thinking getting someone of Pendlebury's elite value is better after the bye. I'm keen on Rischitelli (top 10 easy) and it fits in with my strategy of selling Swallow for a MID/FOR anyway.
Sure Curnow is good to sell? Wish Carlton would tell us how long he's out for...
Consider his B/E of 93 and his pre-injury average of 97. Even if he doesn't miss any weeks, there's the bye this week and then two more weeks before he has any price rise of any significant value. That's three weeks before a price rise. Then another week for every week he misses with injury. Considering the come back from injury, he may well score poorly and go down in price. There's no way you'd be keeping him when you want six 105+ average players in your mids. You got him to be a step up to a premium. Although it's disheartening, we'll have to use him as this step up earlier than intended. It's his time.
QuoteThinking of Grimes>Jacobs then Bruce>Rawlings/Enright?
Then next week......With my $ 180,400 upgrade Harris $ 234,200 B/E of 13. It would give me $ 414,600 for a mid.....For next week. Jimmy Bartel springs to mind
Very Good Idea.
Yeah, I though so to. Just hope Bartel doesn't carve past his B/E of 110 and Harris needs to smash a 70+ to earn me at least $ 3,000. ;)
obviously needa get rid of grimes. backline premiums already have are god,gibbs,deledio,adcock... thought on grimes' replacement?
Quote from: Vrett7 on May 10, 2011, 11:06:11 PM
obviously needa get rid of grimes. backline premiums already have are god,gibbs,deledio,adcock... thought on grimes' replacement?
enright?
enright ! no question mark....
or
shaw - always a question mark ??
Thinking of getting one in for Grimes for DPP. Deledio has had some really bad games this year, but some good ones, yet Scotland is averaging higher. I already have a couple of Carlton players and no Richmond players.
If I got Scotland I'd get him next week after the bye but it would stretch my defence thin
deledio for a balanced team, plus MPP
Rawlings for the unique :)