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Title: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
hacking it up atm
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 01, 2011, 07:34:12 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:33:28 PM
hacking it up atm

better than libba  :'(
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
little more expectation than libba
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:35:56 PM
Swan or pendles havent touched it since early in the quarter really frustrating me
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 01, 2011, 07:36:26 PM
swan will ton it up. higgins-like last quarter coming up for him.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
little more expectation than libba

LOL just a little :P Swan is punishing those who were greedy by not taking the Cox 121. Will probably still score a 100 but expecting heaps more than 121 from any player is over-optimism.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Holz on May 01, 2011, 07:39:18 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
little more expectation than libba

LOL just a little :P Swan is punishing those who were greedy by not taking the Cox 121. Will probably still score a 100 but expecting heaps more than 121 from any player is over-optimism.

i would say its punishing those who are either greedy or did there research. From all past stats this should have been swans highest score of the season. Last year he killed the dogs and his lowest score from his past 3 has been easily above the 121.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Sleeken on May 01, 2011, 07:40:30 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:37:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:35:03 PM
little more expectation than libba

LOL just a little :P Swan is punishing those who were greedy by not taking the Cox 121. Will probably still score a 100 but expecting heaps more than 121 from any player is over-optimism.

True. I should've stuck with cox.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: deekay on May 01, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
I rolled a dice with grimes, obvious reasons I kept the C on Swan.... :(
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Holz on May 01, 2011, 08:01:33 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...

i expected 135+ so it was worth the risk, didnt payy off today but the chance if him scoring 30 under cox is alot lower than the chance of him scoring 150+.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
I have a high ranking so if i wanna climb up even further I gotta take risks
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 01, 2011, 08:05:31 PM
Quote from: deekay on May 01, 2011, 07:45:38 PM
I rolled a dice with grimes, obvious reasons I kept the C on Swan.... :(

same boat here, heard grimes averaged 121 past 3 games so thought it was a no brainer!
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
I have a high ranking so if i wanna climb up even further I gotta take risks

It was the only scenario I was thinking it was worth the risk, but barely... risk/reward doesn't add up when you've got 121 locked in. If Swan averages 121 this season I'll be happy and he's usually my captain. You can bring up the scores v opponents in previous years all you like, football is such a rapidly changing game it's largely irrelevant in my book.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Holz on May 01, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
I have a high ranking so if i wanna climb up even further I gotta take risks

It was the only scenario I was thinking it was worth the risk, but barely... risk/reward doesn't add up when you've got 121 locked in. If Swan averages 121 this season I'll be happy and he's usually my captain. You can bring up the scores v opponents in previous years all you like, football is such a rapidly changing game it's largely irrelevant in my book.

andrew if swan came out and posted 160 you would be whinging that you didnt put him captain, going swan captain was the correct decision just unlucky for us that the samrt move didnt pay off.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 01, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
I have a high ranking so if i wanna climb up even further I gotta take risks

It was the only scenario I was thinking it was worth the risk, but barely... risk/reward doesn't add up when you've got 121 locked in. If Swan averages 121 this season I'll be happy and he's usually my captain. You can bring up the scores v opponents in previous years all you like, football is such a rapidly changing game it's largely irrelevant in my book.

andrew if swan came out and posted 160 you would be whinging that you didnt put him captain, going swan captain was the correct decision just unlucky for us that the samrt move didnt pay off.
well said
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:39:50 PM
If you're hoping for 160 from your captain every week, you're hoping for too much - would you had said the same thing not taking Gibbs' 140-odd in round 1? I don't know how the correct decision/smart move is the one that's 50 points worse off. But you seem to think I expected Swan to score 96, I didn't. I just didn't risk him scoring less than 121 which was a better chance of happening than him scoring more than 121, especially considering what Swan scored a week ago (a better indicator than seasons' past).
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Ago97 on May 01, 2011, 08:55:16 PM
gonna get swan in round 9 and he will be very cheap  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 01, 2011, 08:59:22 PM
Quote from: Ago97 on May 01, 2011, 08:55:16 PM
gonna get swan in round 9 and he will be very cheap  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

you are a very very lucky dt-mer!
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Footy God on May 01, 2011, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: Ago97 on May 01, 2011, 08:55:16 PM
gonna get swan in round 9 and he will be very cheap  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You paid for it in the first 6 rounds.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TMurphBROWNLOW on May 01, 2011, 10:43:58 PM
Quote from: Footy God on May 01, 2011, 09:23:41 PM
Quote from: Ago97 on May 01, 2011, 08:55:16 PM
gonna get swan in round 9 and he will be very cheap  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
You paid for it in the first 6 rounds.

he's scored two below the ton this year though.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Fenno on May 01, 2011, 10:53:47 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:22:27 PM
Quote from: Holzman on May 01, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:13:00 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 08:03:25 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 07:56:44 PM
Quote from: MarkPlow on May 01, 2011, 07:39:36 PM
hmmm. I am one of those that didn't take cox 121. Swan's average is 130...

So for the sake of 18 points (9 doubled) you took the risk? It has gotta be greedy. Don't get me wrong I was expecting Swan to score 110-130 today. But I already had someone to skipper who had 121 locked in...
I have a high ranking so if i wanna climb up even further I gotta take risks

It was the only scenario I was thinking it was worth the risk, but barely... risk/reward doesn't add up when you've got 121 locked in. If Swan averages 121 this season I'll be happy and he's usually my captain. You can bring up the scores v opponents in previous years all you like, football is such a rapidly changing game it's largely irrelevant in my book.

andrew if swan came out and posted 160 you would be whinging that you didnt put him captain, going swan captain was the correct decision just unlucky for us that the samrt move didnt pay off.
well said
+1 also Mark plow it would have only been for an extra 9 points not an extra 18
cox captain=121+121+130(if swan got his ave)=372
Swan captain if he got his average=130+130+121=381

Lahug wrote a good captain vs captain post you might want to read regarding this.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: TheHanger on May 01, 2011, 10:58:34 PM
i had Jobe as captain, ill take the 115 happy i took it off swan :)
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Holz on May 01, 2011, 11:00:23 PM
Quote from: Andrew on May 01, 2011, 08:39:50 PM
If you're hoping for 160 from your captain every week, you're hoping for too much - would you had said the same thing not taking Gibbs' 140-odd in round 1? I don't know how the correct decision/smart move is the one that's 50 points worse off. But you seem to think I expected Swan to score 96, I didn't. I just didn't risk him scoring less than 121 which was a better chance of happening than him scoring more than 121, especially considering what Swan scored a week ago (a better indicator than seasons' past).

most people were expecting something big as he was playing the dogs. you cant compare 121 with cox against 140 especially in round 1 when we didnt know how swan was traveling. But when a player is averaging 130 and playing arguably his best team that would mean an assumption of 130+ is more than likely. Also last week is not the best indicator of from if that was true i would have put pendles or boyd captain.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: ShaynoB on May 02, 2011, 12:14:01 PM
Quote from: TheHanger on May 01, 2011, 10:58:34 PM
i had Jobe as captain, ill take the 115 happy i took it off swan :)

+1. Did it last min so pretty happy with that
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: PowerMan on May 02, 2011, 02:24:43 PM
Does anyone else think Swan is carrying an injury, to me it seems he's struggling to jump for a mark and to turn quickly, maybe he's got a dodgy groin?

Hopefully the week off will sort him out! me and 50% of the other Dt'ers are hoping anyway!
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Ziplock on May 02, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
maybe he's just getting lazy. I mean, haven't collingwood been curb stomping every opponent ?
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Holz on May 02, 2011, 03:35:46 PM
Quote from: Ziplock on May 02, 2011, 03:27:52 PM
maybe he's just getting lazy. I mean, haven't collingwood been curb stomping every opponent ?

if collingwood go into the cats game that way they are going to get killed. The bye and the fact their next opponent is the cats should fire them up.
Title: Re: Dammit Swan
Post by: Ziplock on May 02, 2011, 03:38:42 PM
we should see a pretty interesting display there. But, then again, the cats only beat the saints by one point in rd 1 :P