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This is the NBA All Time Draft.
Anyone is welcome to vote, please vote for the best team of all time in your opinion.

Team 1.
TEAM: FTW

PG: Micheal Jordan
SG: Kobe Bryant
SF: LeBron James
PF: Kevin Garnett
C: Dwight Howard

Bench: Steve Nash
Bench: Reggie Miller
Bench: Dominique Wilkins
Bench: Carmelo Anthony
Bench: Alonzo Mourning

TEAM 2.
PG: Jason Kidd
SG: Jerry West
C: Bill Russell
PF: Karl Malone
SF: Elgin Baylor

Bench: Patrick Ewing
Bench: Chauncey Billups
Bench: Ama're Stoudemire
Bench: Joe Dumars
Bench: Blake Griffin

TEAM 3
C - Kareem
PF - Tim Duncan
SF - Kevin Durant
SG - Dywane Wade
PG - John Stockton
6th - Chris Paul
7th - Pau Gasol
8th - Dikembe Mutombo
9th - James Worthy
10th George Mikan

TEAM 4
C - Hakeem Olajuwon
PF - Moses Malone
SF - Clyde Drexler
SG - Oscar Robertson
PG - Isiah Thomas
B. - Dennis Rodman (PF/SF)
B. Paul Pierce (SG)
B. Grant Hill (SF)
B. Bob Pettit (C)
B.  Walt Frazier (PG)

TEAM 5.
PG Magic Johnson
SG Allen Iverson
SF Julius Erving
PF Larry Bird
C David Robinson
Bench Dirk Nowitzki
Bench Vince Carter
Bench Tracy McGrady
Bench Gilbert Arenas
Bench Peja Stojakovic

TEAM 6.
PG: Gary 'The Glove' Payton
SG: Ray 'Jesus Shuttlesworth' Allen
SF: Scottie 'No Tippen Pippen
PF: Kevin '411' McHale
C: Shaquille 'Shaq' O'Neil

BENCH: Bob 'Mr. Bastketball' Cousy
BENCH: Mitch 'The Rock' Richmond
BENCH: John 'Hondo' Havlicek
BENCH: Charles 'Sir Charles' Barkley
BENCH: Wilt 'The Big Dipper' Chamberlain

Where is team 4?

Patience lol. its up now.

i went with team 4...

tough choice tho all teams r really good...

I would of voted for team 5 but Stojakovic and Arenas let it down :(
Team 6 gets my vote.

yeah i really like that teams starting 5...

Bird and Magic :o

6 and 3 were my next picks but i rekn 4 would beat them head to head with The Dream and Moses in the paint

Quote from: Marcz on March 18, 2011, 06:51:06 PM
yeah i really like that teams starting 5...

Bird and Magic :o

6 and 3 were my next picks but i rekn 4 would beat them head to head with The Dream and Moses in the paint

yea I have a pretty good defense 8)

Well I voted team 5. That starting 5 is amazing!

I went for team 5 as well. Not the best options for the bench as it somewhat died in the end I guess but the starters are beasts.



As for team 4 beating Team 6, would like to see that happen. :P No really, I would love to watch that game haha :p

no spud webb :'(

Keep voting niglettes.

QuoteThe Dream and Moses in the paint

Not going to hijack ze thread, but good luck beating TD and Kareem in the paint.

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 01:08:40 PM

QuoteThe Dream and Moses in the paint

Not going to hijack ze thread, but good luck beating TD and Kareem in the paint.

yeah its like splitting hairs really

It's really not though. But meh.

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 01:53:08 PM
It's really not though. But meh.

lol moses and hakeem would be a pretty even match for kareem and TD.
perhaps yours would have a slight advantage

I could show you the differences if you wish?

Number 1 Offensive big man in Kareem, Number 2 defensive big man in Duncan.

This is Kareem vs Hakeem. Obviously it would be these 2 one on one because Kareem vs Moses would be lol.

Peak seasons

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=abdulka01&y1=1972&p2=olajuha01&y2=1993


Overall

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=abdulka01&y1=1988&p2=olajuha01&y2=2002

Duncan vs Malone

Overall*

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=duncati01&y1=2011&p2=malonmo01&y2=1993

Peak Season(s)

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=duncati01&y1=2002&p2=malonmo01&y2=1982

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&p1=duncati01&y1=2003&p2=malonmo01&y2=1983

TD had 2 seasons where he was very very good, so did Malone.

TD vs Malone is closer then I thought. It would be a close match up, but TD is still the better overall player. Malone is just slightly better on offense, but TD smashes him in D. Malone on offense with TD on Defense, will be close, but I still feel TD will win this.

*Malone has played 4/5 more seasons then TD, so take into count the WS/48 rather then WS. For Hakeem vs Kareem, only one season serprates them, you can take into account WS alot more.

As you can see, it's closer then I thought, but there are 2 clear winners.

I realy cant be bothered clicking the links.
But yes thanks for your info  ;D

te he roflmao ;D

Quote from: CrowsFan on March 18, 2011, 07:46:32 PM
Well I voted team 5. That starting 5 is amazing!

Same here.

Team 5 gettig overrated itt.

IMO its better than yours andrew.

If you think so. Let me guess, that statement is based nothing other then judgemet, that's also based on nothing?

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 08:14:28 PM
If you think so. Let me guess, that statement is based nothing other then judgemet, that's also based on nothing?

Do u know the meaning of IMO?

Quote from: BOOMZ on March 19, 2011, 09:01:57 PM

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 08:14:28 PM
If you think so. Let me guess, that statement is based nothing other then judgemet, that's also based on nothing?

Do u know the meaning of IMO?

haha exactly. IMO its better than yours.
I will not be searching some random site for a page full of homo stats to try and prove myself.

What's it worth when  its wrong though. Don't get it brah

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 09:06:11 PM
What's it worth when  its wrong though. Don't get it brah

and that's your opinion ;) if u want people to listen to ur opinion listen to theres. knob.

his right. stats dont always make it right. its still an opinion really.  ;D

Well its my opinion cleveland is a better team the boston.

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 09:17:00 PM
Well its my opinion cleveland is a better team the boston.

if you reckon  ;D
you could explain to me why without using stats?

Stats rnt everything and its my opinion

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 09:24:42 PM
Stats rnt everything and its my opinion

you mustve misread what i asked.\
I said tell me why without using stats.

Its just my opinion

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 19, 2011, 09:32:36 PM
Its just my opinion

Ok dawg.

lakers own all.
Heat are overrated.
IMO

Quote from: bomberboy0618 on March 20, 2011, 10:06:30 AM
lakers own all.
Heat are overrated.
IMO

did u vote bb ;) :P :P :P

In typical Andrew fashion, he is losing thus cracks the showers.


I can tell you now, I'd take Team 5's starting 5 over any combination of your whole team any day of the week.


End of the day though, Team 6 wins this voting procedure I believe. :>

yeah looks that way... well done Shaggy ;)

And in typical fashion, you guys ignore everything that points in the other direction of whatever you are saying.


But as usual, I can show you why you're wrong and I'll get called an idiot. You guys are just arrogant and it really is quiet funny that you ignore all stats, everything that is against what you are saying, but still believe in what your "opinion" or whatever you want to call it, is.

but whatever.

i didnt even try and create the best team i deliberately created the most popular team i could...

Definitions of Opinion on the Web:

- A personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "I am not of your persuasion"



Snap.

Exactly, so when you have an "opinion" in basketball its bullshower because Basketball is a game of stats and facts. You can't go out and say Durant is better then LeBron or Cleveland is better then Boston or any other ridiculous claim. Everything in basketball is backed up by stats and facts so there is no differential of throughout

This is exactly what you guys do not get which is what I've been explaining to you, but constantly ignore. You can't say player X is better then player Y when everything says Y is better then X.

Quote from: 8-6 Suited on March 21, 2011, 12:04:41 AM
Definitions of Opinion on the Web:

- A personal belief or judgment that is not founded on proof or certainty; "my opinion differs from yours"; "I am not of your persuasion"



Snap.

There, I bolded the only part from that which matters. In case you are slow, I will explain it to you.

It means that it is their belief or judgment, their opinion, which isn't based on proof or certainty. They may be wrong but it's not the point. It's their prerogative to belief whatever they want and its not anyones place to force them to change it. Which you regularly try to do.

So how about you accept the fact you drafted based solely on facts that compare to modern time players which player a totally different style of game to what it was and lost.

Sure why not.

Since you like stats...


Team 3    0 (0%)



Great team mate... Great team.

Cool.

I mean, I can obviously show you why my team is 10x better then yours, but I why would I do that, for it just to be dismissed as nothing?

Yeah for sure you can. Modern Era players vs an All Time great team? Yeah I think I know which team is better Andrew, but thanks for participating in this draft and well done for not getting a single vote on your 10x better team.

You know I can show you brah. But of course, you will dismiss it as always.

I'm done. You live, breath basketball but don't even understand how the game is judged, good job brah.

but yeah BASKETBALL IS ABOUT OPINION. DONT HAVE A SINGLE ELITE DEFENDER IN THE PAINT ON MY TEAM BUT ITS BETTER THEN YOURS.

Whatever, I'm done. Keep living your fantasy world where in basketball, stats aren't right and its not a game purely based on stats.

The tribe has spoken, it's time for you to get over it.

shaggy just coz u stopped fighting with cookie... :P
andrew if i went around trying to change peoples opinion then its not their opinion anymore but one u have moulded to reflect ur own personal interests.

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 21, 2011, 01:28:07 AM
Cool.

I mean, I can obviously show you why my team is 10x better then yours, but I why would I do that, for it just to be dismissed as nothing?

obviously its not if you got 0 votes lol

Quote from: 8-6 Suited on March 21, 2011, 01:25:28 AM
Since you like stats...


Team 3    0 (0%)



Great team mate... Great team.

Snap! ;D

As I said, I'm over it. But if you wanted "true" results, you would find an external NBA forum to post this in, not a sub-forum based on a different sport, where NBA isn't everyones la chose.

screw other forums. Fanfooty is the place to be.
also, if you want "true results" then why are you here?  ???

ok go post it in another forum andrew. Or are u all talk?

As most of you would know, I am not all talk. If you actually want me to, I can. I'm a member of the biggest NBA thread on the net, but I'd rather it be a neutral one if you want, but I don't mind.

just put 3 in a random generator and pick it that way.

There were 3 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

TZ
Inside Hoops
NBA dimensions
Timestamp: 2011-03-21 08:48:51 UTC

which one are u a part of?
go tz.

I am apart of TZ and NBA dimensions.

PM'ing a mod now.

Will post the thread here if it gets accepted.

Btw, I think team 1 wins this.

Actually, I will do it for the draft that we are currently doing. Seeming we have already started this here.

So ur not posting this one?
If so then thats a major copout.

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 21, 2011, 09:47:45 PM
Actually, I will do it for the draft that we are currently doing. Seeming we have already started this here.

Sounds alright. I'm unbiased so I've stayed out of these wars as the point of these drafts were for fun.....

Don't forget to not tell them your team as not for them to be biased ;). But it'll be interesting seeing fanatics discuss the teams and how they decide.

Well I know basically next to nothing about basketball so just voted for the team that I actually knew that the players were really good ;)

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/all-time-nba-team-poll-1003275/index4.html

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 22, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/all-time-nba-team-poll-1003275/index4.html

cheers for doing that, its good to read some others opinions... voting seems a little more lopsided than the comments but worthwhile doing it so thanks for putting the time in to knock that out Andrew :)

Team 1 is just way too good.

Winner winner me thinks

Gratz

Wow team 1 killed that vote! :o :o
Interesting to read how they value the teams though :)

Quote from: CrowsFan on March 22, 2011, 12:50:54 PM
Wow team 1 killed that vote! :o :o

It was. They looked into how the team would actually go well together..... Guess not having Wilt+Shaq starting hurt Shaggy a bit!

It would a bit though seemig he won't have a post defender. Wilt b shaq I guess r fie but they rnt elite won't be able to stop some of the elite bigs.

still good discussion going on in the thread u created on the other site...

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 22, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/all-time-nba-team-poll-1003275/index4.html

Looks like Team 1 is the bomb! :o

Team 6 for me :ninja
Team 1 is also good.

Quote from: Marcz on March 22, 2011, 11:57:15 AM

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 22, 2011, 11:00:38 AM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/46/sporting-events/all-time-nba-team-poll-1003275/index4.html

cheers for doing that, its good to read some others opinions... voting seems a little more lopsided than the comments but worthwhile doing it so thanks for putting the time in to knock that out Andrew :)

at least my team got one vote on that forum compared to none here ...   :'(    ;)