Poll
Question:
WHERE?
Option 1: Backline
votes: 0
Option 2: Forward Line
votes: 13
Option 3: (Centre?)
votes: 1
Where will Hirdy place Hurley for the majority of the season? in what circumstances?
Forward or Back.
-Comments?
-Where will he got more SC Points also?
he has been awesome in the foward line this year, and seeing as we have Hooker, Fletcher, and Pears to come back i don't think there will be space for him in the backline.
I agree Hilly, he'll be assisting Gumby and the resting ruckmen down forward for mine.
Forward barring an injury down back...
Quote from: HillHero13 on March 12, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
he has been awesome in the foward line this year, and seeing as we have Hooker, Fletcher, and Pears to come back i don't think there will be space for him in the backline.
Basically as I see it. Only filled in down back last year when Pears was injured.
Pears and Hooker will fill FB and CHB and Hurley likely CHF if Gumby is used at FF.
tbh if we are going to play Ryder+Hille i don't see Gumby playing, there won't be a spot for him, especially with the 3 interchange isn't it?
but Hurley will be CHF, and the resting ruck ff, hille or ryder.
and since we value our small fowards, Davey, Jetta, Zaharakis, Williams and Monfries.
i just can't see Gumby playing, and if there is someone to blame for that it will be the AFL.
Fletcher now will be BP/HB because he now has the ability to play on anyone, similar to Harry O' Brien.
You really don't see Gumby playing? I think he'll be played at FF and the resting Ruckman there as a third tall (Gumby + Hurley + Ryder/Hille).
Jetta and Zaha have shown a bit and more than likely might be played more up the ground and those guys will rotate the bench as well. Williams will more than likely be the one to sit out the games as he's past his prime and is there for depth. If he plays ahead of Gumby on a regvular basis (not counting form, injury, etc) it's not that great as we are trying to work a spine for the next 5-6 years and Gumby will turn into a better player as long as he plays.
agree with hilly, im hoping gumby doesnt play. he is a useless kick and not going to get anywhere with a FF who cant kick.
Ryder and hille resting at FF, Hurley at CHF.
hurley was drafted as a backman ansd is more than capable, but our back line is solid.
Think hurley is going to be one of the best players in the league. ;)
i didn't say i don't want him to play, i would love him to play, but i just can't see it.
Quote from: HillHero13 on March 13, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
i didn't say i don't want him to play, i would love him to play, but i just can't see it.
never said you did. i said i dont. i honestly cant see him going anywhere..
Quote from: Maca24 on March 13, 2011, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: HillHero13 on March 13, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
i didn't say i don't want him to play, i would love him to play, but i just can't see it.
never said you did. i said i dont. i honestly cant see him going anywhere..
KPP always take 5-6 years to develop, he will be a gun next year maybe the one after.
Quote from: HillHero13 on March 13, 2011, 01:34:04 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on March 13, 2011, 01:30:15 PM
Quote from: HillHero13 on March 13, 2011, 01:01:27 PM
i didn't say i don't want him to play, i would love him to play, but i just can't see it.
never said you did. i said i dont. i honestly cant see him going anywhere..
KPP always take 5-6 years to develop, he will be a gun next year maybe the one after.
I disagree.. he has to battle with injuries aswell. wouldnt surprise me if he only plays 10 games this year.
Quote from: Maca24 on March 13, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
agree with hilly, im hoping gumby doesnt play. he is a useless kick and not going to get anywhere with a FF who cant kick.
Ryder and hille resting at FF, Hurley at CHF.
hurley was drafted as a backman ansd is more than capable, but our back line is solid.
Think hurley is going to be one of the best players in the league. ;)
His kicking action is horrible agreed, but he has age on Williams and has much more to learn about the game while Williams can be seen to be a shadow of his mid '00 form. Gumby did an alright job last season considering it was his first where he was mostly injury free. If he works on his kicking, he'll be more certain. But we wouldn't have persisted with him if we didn't think he had talent. I'd think he'd play ahead of Williams but that's what I would do. Not sure what Hirdy would do.....
so in order, essendon's best backmen and forward line in order????
i think..
BAC: Fletcher, Pears, Dempsey, Hooker, Heppell (c), Hibberd.
FWD: Ryder, Zaharakis, Hurley, Crameri, Jetta, Gumbleton, Williams.
EDITED..
Dempsey can't defend though so how he rates higher than Pears is :o. I rate Pears as our number 1 (for the future), Fletch and then Hooker.
Crameri can't be rated ahead of Hurley :o. Hurley is our best option going forward with Ryder/Hille (resting ruckman) next in line. Jetta next followed by Zaha. Then probably Gumby/Williams (depending on how you see it).
Crameri, Heppell and Hibberd haven't been given a go in an actual AFL game (season) so hard to judge them and other rookies.
cheers HP. didnt notice some of that.
made a few changes and realised i forgot Gumby
Will play fwd but as soon as one of your key defenders go down bang straight back to the backlines. IMO
Quote from: naste on March 13, 2011, 04:40:41 PM
Will play fwd but as soon as one of your key defenders go down bang straight back to the backlines. IMO
More than likely right Naste... As for Gumby, he will develop into a very good player for up this year. There is nothing wrong with having 3 talls in the forward line. Gone are the days of true positions like FF etc.
Quote from: Hellopplz on March 13, 2011, 03:47:35 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on March 13, 2011, 12:16:34 PM
agree with hilly, im hoping gumby doesnt play. he is a useless kick and not going to get anywhere with a FF who cant kick.
Ryder and hille resting at FF, Hurley at CHF.
hurley was drafted as a backman ansd is more than capable, but our back line is solid.
Think hurley is going to be one of the best players in the league. ;)
His kicking action is horrible agreed, but he has age on Williams and has much more to learn about the game while Williams can be seen to be a shadow of his mid '00 form. Gumby did an alright job last season considering it was his first where he was mostly injury free. If he works on his kicking, he'll be more certain. But we wouldn't have persisted with him if we didn't think he had talent. I'd think he'd play ahead of Williams but that's what I would do. Not sure what Hirdy would do.....
I agree, williams is terrible and goes missing far to much. gumby must have something if we drafted him at pick 2. he might prove me wrong and learn to kick but IMO he needs a major overhaul in kicking action.
Haha, at least we agree on that! I'm just happy if it doesn't go out on the full! But he proves me wrong time after time, 90% of the time ;D.
i love davey and monfries. I have monfries signature :D
He'll play him forward. Hird has resisted the temptation all pre-season to send him back, so you would think forward is where he'll stay.
its a tough choice he played pretty good in pre-season. Maybe centre and occasionally push forward
Quote from: cookie311993 on March 20, 2011, 05:52:27 PM
Maybe centre and occasionally push forward
Mixed them up Cookie? I'd like him at CHF and play a similar role to Roo in the future.
Gumby dominated juniors, completely dominated. Nobody could stop him, those who saw him at his best will tell you that. If Williams plays over Gumby...Well it is mistake #1 for Jimmy IMO.
Hurley will play forward in our best 22.
williams wont get games unless he finds form in VFL or one of our forwards gets an injury.
Current Forward line:
Monfries, Hurley, Jetta
Crameri, Ryder, Davey
Gumby and Williams waiting in the wings...
At least we have alright players waiting in the wings... Gumby on his day is a good player as is Williams but don't think they will be doing a lot to show they should be in the side.
Quote from: BOOMZ on March 27, 2011, 05:56:57 PM
At least we have alright players waiting in the wings... Gumby on his day is a good player as is Williams but don't think they will be doing a lot to show they should be in the side.
yea I agree. think our forward line has good synergy, with a group who can all affect the scoreboard.
I would rather see Jetta out on a wing and then Gumby on the flank. The guy will be awesome.
Quote from: Alex7089 on March 27, 2011, 07:00:03 PM
I would rather see Jetta out on a wing and then Gumby on the flank. The guy will be awesome.
Im of the complete opposite lol.
You would like gumby on a flank shanking it in to full forward. :P
I mean Jetta on the wing not in the wings. Gumby is not as bad as you all think the guy was basically a KPP rookie in his first season last year.
Quote from: Alex7089 on March 27, 2011, 08:23:39 PM
I mean Jetta on the wing not in the wings. Gumby is not as bad as you all think the guy was basically a KPP rookie in his first season last year.
I still dont think his good enough for the 22 yet. Essendon have a good chance of making the 8, and I think gumby isn't worth developing in the side. Its harsh i know but yea just my opinion.