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Title: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2010, 09:35:30 PM
This team goes againstall the advice i have given to other teams, but i tried to create a team in the same mould as this years winner. (obvioulsy rookies would change but starting 22 looks very strong and there are no more than 1 person on each line from 1 team and each team has only 1 or 2 players represented in the 22.)

Goddard, Hodge, Deledio, Broughton , Adcock , Houli , Otten (Howard, Mzungu, Richardson)
Swan, Boyd, Montagna, Anthony, Swallow, Foley (gaff, Conca, krakouer)
Petrie, Tippet (Smith, Daw)
Franklin, Reiwoldt, Pavlich, Sylvia, Knights, Pettered, Vezpremi ( lamb, matera, darling)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: valkorum on October 26, 2010, 09:42:01 PM
Lack of MPP is what sticks out to me.  I also see you have Vezpremi :P (our convo)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 26, 2010, 10:00:48 PM
i was just trying to make a team that is the best 22 on papaer and not care about MPP, if i look through the draw and i believe that this team wont have any problems than im seriously considering no MPP. I just need to make sure there are no more than 2 per line out every week, because with the 3 bench players you should be able to cover it.  Just to make sure i might downgrade someone like Sylvia to darling and then load up the bench with all the top rookies
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Alphaman on October 26, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
MPP is such an over rated thing, if you have cover on your bench then you shouldnt need it in theory. and if u take a player from one position ur creating a hole in another
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: valkorum on October 27, 2010, 12:25:52 AM
Quote from: Alphaman on October 26, 2010, 11:17:04 PM
MPP is such an over rated thing, if you have cover on your bench then you shouldnt need it in theory. and if u take a player from one position ur creating a hole in another

By moving players around using MPP you can take advantage of a better scoring bench player

Example:

Midfield player A is out
Midfield bench ave 55
Forward bench ave 65

Forward player A MPP's to midfield
Midfield player A goes to bench
Forward bench player comes on and you get his of score 65 instead of just subbing Midfield players and scoring 55

= 10 extra points
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Alphaman on October 27, 2010, 12:41:34 AM
thats where people are going to lose points.

Instead of picking the better selections on the bench which will earn more points and money they are opting for more MPP. Is it really worth picking up a few MPP who wont do as good as a normally positioned players just to have the luxury of swapping for 10 extra points? IMO your better spending the time to research good benched players to cover and make more money cos lets face it people are picking average cash cows who are MPP over good cash cows for luxury.

MPP should be used as emergancy cover in the late rounds when trades are gone.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 27, 2010, 03:00:33 AM
i agree 100% i orgininally thought MPP was vital for this year but on firther analysis i dont think it is.

Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on October 27, 2010, 03:03:09 AM
Vezpremi n Pettard a no go fo me there Holz
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 27, 2010, 07:11:52 PM
im not sure on vezpremi but i really like petterd, melbourne are improving and i think he could average a mid 70s score. I would really like to fit in Fev instead of vezpremi, i think he could be a simular pick to barry this year but beter.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on October 27, 2010, 08:14:21 PM
yeah i think pettard should stay and may i join a league with you Alphaman?
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on October 28, 2010, 10:22:14 AM
oi are we fanfooty regulars starting a league next year??
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2010, 05:29:49 PM
i would love the create a superleague and push to become the top league. I think my league finished about 100, but we carried a few teams averaging under 2000
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 28, 2010, 05:40:47 PM
i really want to put brown and fev into the team if they have decent preseasons. I also really like the look of rioli in the team.  If brisbane pick a midfield rookie iwht their pick i will get him, however he is as he is assured to get gametime and possesions
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on October 28, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
well brisbane have pick 5, and west coast have pick 4 and its looking like either Gaff or Heppell are going to go to either of those clubs and they both rack it up for their clubs and under18s rep sides so they are deffinate talents
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Alphaman on October 29, 2010, 01:52:58 AM
im keen for a super league haha!
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 29, 2010, 04:10:51 PM
looking at the fixtures i dont think i will have a problem, in round 4 i will have montagna and boyd out but will have Gaff and Caddy as good cover. Hawthorn and Freo out round 6 hurts a bit with 2 down in the backs and the forward line but as long as i have 2 out of my 3 bench playing should be no problem. Im thinking of loading up a bit on the GC players Maybee trading Krokouer fo a GC guy and trying to get at least 1 GC fw and back.  The rest of the byes i have no more than 1 player out on each line.

However i might decide to change one of Boyd or Montagna to a cat midfielder to avoid the situation in round 4. i also might look at deledio instead of broughton and maybee get someone else instead of franklin.
Any thoughts on these ideas?
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: valkorum on October 29, 2010, 08:24:09 PM
Isnt round 4 a round of only 5 games?  If so then there is no DT round that week.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 30, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
yeah but my friends go person with the highest rank wins
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: valkorum on October 30, 2010, 02:08:31 PM
Quote from: Holzman on October 30, 2010, 04:16:24 AM
yeah but my friends go person with the highest rank wins

If you are going for ranking then the "Bye" rounds still count but there wont be any head to head games.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on October 30, 2010, 10:21:50 PM
i just have to keep my score around 2000 in the bye rounds, as one bad week and my seaosn is gone. Last year i had a 1800 week and that meant i finshed outside the top 500
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: dale93 on November 01, 2010, 01:32:24 PM
Dont like your rucks of Petrie and a Tippet? What about Sandi i thought that would be a lock this year....
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 01, 2010, 04:51:59 PM
i went 2 cheap rucks so i could have money aswell, i plan on upgrading one of them probably tippet. I have spent more money elsewhere having boyd,swan and montagna is really costly and having 4 back and forward premiums cant be done without a cheap ruck division. I also plan to have a quite expensive bench with players like gaff and bennel sitting on the bench.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 03, 2010, 09:23:20 PM
mixed the team up againt to include ben jacobs in the starting 22. and got rid of tippet.

Goddard, Hodge, Kelly, Deledio, Adcock, Otten, Jacobs (Howard, Mzungu, Richardson)

Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Swallow, Gaff (Caddy, Wallis, Krakouer)

Sandilands, Petrie (Smith, Prato)

Franklin, Voldt, Pav, Brown, Knights, Petterd, Vezpremi (Cook, Lamb, Matera)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 03, 2010, 09:40:57 PM
whos benny jacobs?
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 04, 2010, 01:57:05 AM
rookie who averaged 29 touches in the under 18 championships, could potentially be a M/B
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: HTM on November 05, 2010, 05:11:15 PM
poor team
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Alphaman on November 05, 2010, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: HTM on November 05, 2010, 05:11:15 PM
poor team

Agreed
Tippet and petrie?
cmon dont be a tight arse youll lose 50-75 points a week there to sandi and someone else
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 05, 2010, 05:46:04 PM
i did change the team up to include sandilands this time ( a couple of posts up). HTM poor tema again, are you just trolling.

plus tag started with a weaker ruck division and no sandi and that didnt turn out too bad for him
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 05, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
if you say "poor team" HTM show us your superior dt knowledge and give us a hand??
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 05, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
if you say "poor team" HTM show us your superior dt knowledge and give us a hand??
yeh i love that advice coming from a "bootstudder"
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: HTM on November 05, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on November 05, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
if you say "poor team" HTM show us your superior dt knowledge and give us a hand??
yeh i love that advice coming from a "bootstudder"

I know a s**t load more than you m8, being a West Coast Eagles Fan just because i dont have 1000 posts means jack.. petrie and tippet ruck combo is yuck.. Vespremi is terrible  enough said
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 06, 2010, 12:15:09 AM
petrie and tippet looks alot simular to hille and leunberger to me and that won tag the car. Anyway i changed it so put in sandilands for tippet. HTM do you even play DT if yes, what did you finsh this year in the rankings. IF you beat me than i guess your adivce is valid

plus browny and elephants are pretty good dters, they have alot of knowledge
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: me on November 06, 2010, 11:01:12 AM
is anyone here actually thinking about picking up michael johnson?

scored better and better as the year went on, and could be a good alternative to tippet if you want a premium ruck, petrie and another ruckman/forward for flexibility
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 06, 2010, 06:44:18 PM
nah me (hahha that sounds funny) i think there are better options out there :)

thanks holzman ;)

and HTM are you having a crack at west coast supporters? you cant say that as the 'real' west coast supporters will be determined in the next 4 or 5 years :)

soo everyone just chill out and 'stay premium' ;) (yes i got to say it :D )
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 07, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
Quote from: HTM on November 05, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on November 05, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
if you say "poor team" HTM show us your superior dt knowledge and give us a hand??
yeh i love that advice coming from a "bootstudder"

I know a s**t load more than you m8, being a West Coast Eagles Fan just because i dont have 1000 posts means jack.. petrie and tippet ruck combo is yuck.. Vespremi is terrible  enough said
Are u seriously gonna have a go against the team we support??? Least we've won a flag this century mate! And yes it's got everything on how much we've posted as Holzman said he's updated his team n LE n myself have taken notice of this n updated our posts accordingly, u just say ur own bullsh!t
The ruck combo has been altered n Vezpremi needs to be tested with slot of others, see how he goes in nab cup
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 07, 2010, 02:13:08 PM
Goddard, Hodge, Kelly, Deledio, Adcock, Otten, Jacobs (Howard, Mzungu, Richardson)

Swan, Boyd, Bartel, Anthony, Swallow, Gaff (Caddy, Wallis, Krakouer)

Sandilands, Fraser (Smith, Daw)

Franklin, Voldt, Pav, Brown, Knights, Petterd, Petrie (Cook, Lamb, Matera)

my last change untill the draft, i got rid of vezpremi and put in fraser, he is someone who i dont think anyone has looked at, he did average nearly 90 the season before and if gets back into some fitness could be a great pick, GC pciked him up to be the number 1 ruck so should play most games
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 07, 2010, 05:00:04 PM
hahahaha triple domination stuff guys ;)

solid holzman,

not sure about bartel and how he will cope with the lack of gablett?!
fraser, yes i have seen your post in players in dt and i think he could be a decnt unique pick matey well done :)
very solid forward line :). got any info on lamd? cheers holz strong team :)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: bomberboy0618 on November 07, 2010, 05:17:38 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on November 07, 2010, 04:06:50 AM
Quote from: HTM on November 05, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
Quote from: browny_wce on November 05, 2010, 08:30:14 PM
Quote from: elephants on November 05, 2010, 08:02:46 PM
if you say "poor team" HTM show us your superior dt knowledge and give us a hand??
yeh i love that advice coming from a "bootstudder"

I know a s**t load more than you m8, being a West Coast Eagles Fan just because i dont have 1000 posts means jack.. petrie and tippet ruck combo is yuck.. Vespremi is terrible  enough said
Are u seriously gonna have a go against the team we support??? Least we've won a flag this century mate! And yes it's got everything on how much we've posted as Holzman said he's updated his team n LE n myself have taken notice of this n updated our posts accordingly, u just say ur own bullsh!t
The ruck combo has been altered n Vezpremi needs to be tested with slot of others, see how he goes in nab cup
u cant really judge anyone by their rank man. But shut up htm, this owning business is becoming a regular thing
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 07, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
yes bomber i do agree with you, not just because you support wolverhamton :)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: bomberboy0618 on November 07, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
WOLVERHAMPTON!!!
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 07, 2010, 05:34:08 PM
Quote from: bomberboy0618 on November 07, 2010, 05:20:59 PM
WOLVERHAMPTON!!!
;D +1
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 07, 2010, 10:47:47 PM
not sure about bartel and how he will cope with the lack of gablett?!
fraser, yes i have seen your post in players in dt and i think he could be a decnt unique pick matey well done :)
very solid forward line :). got any info on lamd? cheers holz strong team :)
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bartel is probably in the position most likely to change really the 3rd mid could be anyone, looking at pendles,selwood,motagna,hayes etc..

to be honest the forward line rookies i have no real idea about, im hoping a couple of guys like conca get put in the FWD as i have no real idea who to pick will have to wait to see who is named round 1
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 08, 2010, 02:00:42 AM
yeh i know this bomberboy cheers mate, just stirring the pot, but does show some experience on posting on here. easy to judge HTM with average comments tho

Holz/LE - Jed Lamb is a jet, super kick on him (27/30 in Combine test), would have 100 set shots after training every night with Gippsland, mid-sized, leading forward who is quick and springy. played high and thru the mids with Vic Country and trived! will probly goto the Hawks, GC or maybe Roos
Conca finished the season as a midfielder, but has a slight chance as a mid/fwd MPP, tho he also played across half back for WA
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: bomberboy0618 on November 08, 2010, 03:37:46 PM
i reckon day is a lock as he is gonna play the 22 barring injury :D
And browny, stir all u want, i dont mind
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Barlow 21 on November 08, 2010, 04:42:03 PM
Quote from: Alphaman on November 05, 2010, 05:28:35 PM
Quote from: HTM on November 05, 2010, 05:11:15 PM
poor team

Shut Up
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 08, 2010, 10:40:51 PM
i think that any of those other options would be good other than jimmy although i love him :)
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 09, 2010, 10:20:09 AM
U gottta think the young guys like pendles n selwood can only get better n better in DT. Jimmy is still gonna be good I think!
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: HTM on November 09, 2010, 04:11:10 PM
got 2 agree bout jimmy.. i believe there is better options
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 09, 2010, 04:27:26 PM
my original plan was to avoid gellong players till the gary effect has been worked out and get collingwood,stkilda and dogs mids, however the 2 early collingwood byes and the double bye of stkilda and dogs means im only going to start either a stkilda or dogs midfielder and swan.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 16, 2010, 10:42:41 AM
yeh a swan and montagna or swan and boyd combo is the way to go
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 19, 2010, 07:35:41 PM
i have made my final team before the real dream team starts, going over thw draft i have made a few changes. 60k left.

Goddard (C), Hodge (C), Kelly (C), Deledio (B), Broughton, Otten, Jacobs
(Richardson, Mzungu, Talia (F))
Swan, Boyd, Anthony, Swallow, Foley, Gaff (Heppel (B), Wallis, Green (F))
Sandilands, Fraser (Smith. Daw (F))
Slyvia (C), Vodlt, Brown, Pav (C), Knights, Petterd (C), Petrie (R) (LAmb, Darling, Tapscott)

i have put green and heppel on the mid bench for there MPP and i also believe they could play alot of games, especially heppel.
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 19, 2010, 09:54:28 PM
heppel is locked for me :) and i think green will be good if mpp
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 20, 2010, 04:22:00 AM
after i saw he averaged over 100 dt points in the under 18s he is a lock in the middle if he is mpp
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 21, 2010, 12:50:16 PM
AGREED!

Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 21, 2010, 04:32:42 PM
Quote from: Holzman on November 20, 2010, 04:22:00 AM
after i saw he averaged over 100 dt points in the under 18s he is a lock in the middle if he is mpp
who Josh Green?
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: elephants on November 21, 2010, 04:47:42 PM
picks 32 for brissy, expected to go higher but slipped down the list :)

http://www.contestedfooty.com/2010/06/josh-green-%E2%80%93-2010-afl-draft-prospect/
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 22, 2010, 02:00:06 PM
yeh i know who he is just didnt know he was averaging 100 DT points
whered u find that?
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2010, 08:38:31 PM
http://www.fanfooty.com.au/blog/2010/11/19/2010-tac-cup/
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 22, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Green is tasmanian and not on that list
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: bomberboy0618 on November 22, 2010, 09:08:55 PM
m0nty might have missed some  :-\
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: Holz on November 22, 2010, 09:48:48 PM
i was talking about heppel averaging 100, no idea about green, he did get 20+ touches in some comp i read
Title: Re: Tags starting line up 2011?
Post by: browny_wce on November 22, 2010, 10:32:51 PM
that was only TAC, is there a tassie team in that?