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SC is open and I am having a look at a quick draft of my team. I am also going to go through the lines and make a list of potential options that I am considering

First draft

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I don't love it, but I don't hate it. I think a few guys won't be ready for round 1 like Coleman/Gibcus, I'll go through the reasoning for my picks when I start my line posts

Nice Structure. Good sitting team till we know rookies playing.

As a lions supporter I avoided Will Ashcroft mainly due to the fact of the number of mids ((Neale, Dunkley, McCluggage, Ashcroft, Fletcher and possibly Levi) that will be competing for points.

Backs

Sheezel - I have him locked in as my D1 right now, the one advantage he has over Flanders is he doesn't play in the Round 0 game or have the Round 2 bye. He is a ball magnet and should play pure mid while being able to pick him as a defender, it's a no brainer

Flanders - He had a monster finish to the season with 4 scores over 120 in his last 6 games. There are a couple question marks heading into the season, with Noble and Rioli coming into the team, where does he play? They also have a really early bye week which isn't ideal. I think he is a pass for now

Ryan - He casually averaged 130 up until his bye week with only 1 score under 105. Post bye he was nowhere near as dominant and averaged 102. Every time I've owned Ryan he has had some bad form slumps while also having a huge hot streak. Priced at 116 you don't want him to start the season cold, but he can also be an early difference maker with a fantastic bye. Right now, he is probably out of my side as I can only really afford one 600k+ defender and that's Sheezel

Whitfield - One of my fave and best picks last season, I traded him in Round 14 and he averaged a whopping 123 for the rest of the season with a low score of 97 (only one under the ton). He had a pretty good start to the season averaging 116 in the first 3 before his first, and then was a bit of a roller coaster leading up to his second bye. He is one I will target as an upgrade with GWS playing Round 0 and then the Round 2 bye. I think I learnt from last year that missing too many of those guys was a recipe for dropping down the rankings.

Zorko - He had an amazing season and outside of a couple clunkers (which he is prone to in past seasons) he was dominant and a league winner. The shift to half back allowed him to play freely and impact games, it sounds like he will stay there but another year older and with Coleman coming back I think I'll hold off. He is also another victim of the opening round fixture.

Gov - A career high 110 for Gov which came at the ripe old age of 32. Two reasons I won't be picking him. He tends to pick up injuries and missed games last year. He also hasn't had a season anywhere near this scoring in the past so it is an outlier.

Sinclair - He is an option I really like for D2. After missing round 1 and a slow start he was a monster. He had a nice mix of playing midfield some games and then also taking the kickins with Nas, so he has a nice floor each week with that role. I don't know if Nas eats into more of those defensive half duties and they look to keep him in the midfield, but he is pretty tempting at his price with a huge ceiling.

Houston - So I think he is due to play Round 1 and miss opening round with the suspension, but he also had a round 3 bye which is a slight killer. I think on that alone it is a pass and I'll look at him as a potential upgrade.

Martin - Not a fan of this pick at his price. He had a 'high floor' last year due to the amount of ball he was getting, although he is a butcher which stopped him having some monster scores in some of those games. He was also thrown around a bit in the second half of the season so it's a pass.

Clark - He is one I really liked last year and he was pretty damn consistent each week. He did have a couple of really poor scores, but more often than not he was hitting the ton and showed to be a good option next to Ryan. I don't mind him as a cheaper option with room to grow, but I like Sinclair a little bit more if I can find 30k or a couple of guys for a little less.

Ridley - He is one of the best kicks in the competition, but he has missed games the last couple of years or he has had his role screwed with resulting in some crap scores. He has a huge ceiling, but I don't think I would take the risk starting him.

Nas - Last year was his breakout season. He takes the majority of the kickins and is amazing by foot. He could take another step this year, but he may be capped by Sinclair taking some of the kickins from him. Maybe a nice upgrade option if he has a clunker or injury

Holmes - He was averaging a solid 105 around the bye before a poor few weeks at the back end of the season. They are planning to throw him around a bit, including time in the middle with Smith. He could average around that mark which would have him in that 8 to 10 range. There is scope for improvement with his age profile and potential to see impactful midfield minutes, however I think I prefer other options.

Sicily - I feel like he will play forward this year with Battle and Barrass coming over while also missing Dear and Lewis up forward. As a forward he is a definite no. Pass

Dale - When the sub score comes out, Dale averages a pretty healthy 102 on the year. He is the designated kick-in guy for the Dogs and is a key to their ball movement from defence to the forward line. 2022 he averaged around that 102 mark, so he is under priced for what he can give you each week. He is one I might consider, but there are others I'd probably pick ahead of him and hope to grab Dale at a cheaper price through the season

Blakey - A breakout season, he finished as D17 by average, but jumped up around 7 points per game from the previous season. He had a few clunkers with 4 sub 70 scores, including a 43. The key for Blakey is to avoid those real clunkers and he could jump into that tier above. He breaks lines and has the ability to turn a game which is great for SC. Personally I will hold off, I don't know if he can take that next step and I will probably look elsewhere to start he year.

Stewart - I currently have him in my starting team, but there are a few red flags with Stewart. He dominated for the majority of 2023, but last year he had a mix of issues including the tag, Guthrie eating into his kick-in dominance and an in game concussion. One way the Cats looked to beat the tag was to play him in the midfield where he attended over 80% of CBA's, on 3 separate occasions  post bye.  In that period he managed to average 109 when you take out the WC game where he injured his hamstring. The worry here is that Smith is expected to play as a permanent CB mid, that pushes Stewart back to his HB role which could see him susceptible to the tag again. Holmes is also running around back there while rotating through the midfield and Guthrie will still eat into those kick-ins killing that high floor. There is a lot of upside to the Stewart pick, you could get a top 5 defender for the price of D18, but he has burnt me in the past and do I want to get back on this ride? - EDIT: Just realised he has an awful bye due to opening round, probably a pass.

Rioli - New club, old coach, familiar role. Rioli averaged 92 last year and averaged 92 under Hardwick a couple seasons ago. With Flanders moving into a half forward/mid role there are 50 plus odd kick-ins available. You also had Sexton taking another 30 while Powell took the majority with 61. Rioli only took a total of 34 last year and if he can up that total to 60ish, thats maybe a 4 to 5 point per game boost. It gives him a nice floor, but I don't know if I would take the risk in him really breaking out and breaking the ton. He may still not average enough to be worth the move.

May - He is one I picked up on the cheap last year.  He loves an intercept mark and takes the majority of the kick-ins. It looked like a great pickup until he killed me in the Eagles game before getting injured later in the season. I wouldn't expect him to play 22 games which is a cross against his name, but he could have a Gov like season where he marks everything and with kick-in duties he gives himself a nice floor. He may be one to jump on after the inevitable injury as a D6/D7 option on the cheap.

Powell - When I looked at the kick-in numbers, you see Powell generally up there for the Suns with the opportunity to take more. He had a handful of clunkers after starting the season really well, maybe one to just wait and see since how the Suns backline situation plays out.

Vlastuin - He is always on my list with his ridiculous ceiling, but he can't seem to string it together through an entire season. Being in a crap Richmond team probably won't help him but he is one I'll keep an eye on through the season.

McKercher - If he was playing HBF he would be a lock. He was awesome from round 7 when he played averaging 106.5. Unfortunately he missed a bunch of games through that period and it looks like he is switching to the other end of the ground playing HFF and wing. I don't think he can keep up that insane average playing a different role, but it sounds like he was everywhere during the practice match and tempting.

Saad - No Newman opens up the kick-ins for Saad, maybe they go with Gov for most, but he could see an increase to his floor. Hollands is expected to slot into a small defender role next to Saad, he is pretty good defensively and may open up Saad to use his offensive game more. He averaged 103 in 2022 which shows he can score well, Newman has been the defender to own and with him out he may bounce back to a premium player.

Duggan - It sounds like he will be heavily involved in the midfield rotation for the Eagles this year. He may be slightly under-priced with an injury game in his average, but he did put up a couple of real clunkers outside of that game.  He averaged 90 in 2023 and even with a SC friendly role 95 may be his ceiling, he is still one to keep an eye on.

Rivers - Another player that played some midfield minutes last year and put up some huge scores once the move happened. With the Dees getting Trac back and Oliver having a full pre-season, I don't know how much run Rivers will actually get in that role even though it sounds like they're keen to keep him in the rotation. At his price he is one to consider, especially if he continues to be part of that CB rotation. He is one of the Dees more damaging ball users and that will help him score.

Short - I started him last year since I felt he could push to that 105 level. He has a huge game opening round and then was a disaster for me. I think something that hurts Short is that the Tigers used to retain possession from a lot of those bomb kicks forward with Lynch and Riewoldt. With both gone or barely there, these kicks are being marked as ineffective or turnovers when the opposition marks them. Richmond don't have those guys forward of centre that can win those contests consistently, so I feel like that will kill his style of game. He is popular because people are seeing the volume of kick-ins he will have with Rioli gone, but Rioli didn't really move the needle and had 34 for the season. That will be split between him and Vlaustin and if anything I think it helps Vlaustin more than Short.

Salem - I simply don't trust his body. He was a tempting starting price last year before he got injured and then I picked him up post injury before another couple of niggles. He has the ability to score well, but the best thing a player can have is durability and availability.

Roberts - He has been tipped to take the old Jake Lloyd role and be a seagull around half back. He was a great starting pick last year before he hit the wall and became a vest candidate, had an injury and then came home like a steam train. He is primed to have a potential breakout season and at his price could be too good to pass up. The two obvious issues, he starts opening round meaning an early bye and if you have Mills that's two guys on the same line missing early which could be a disaster. Right now it's a pass. - EDIT - IT feels like he just played himself into a lock. With no round 3 bye options currently in my team and at his price he should give me a good stepping stone at a discount.

Noble - 80 has been his career best, but a move to the Suns to play as an attacking HBF along with Rioli could see him increase that average, I think there are better picks around the price, but I am curious to see the role.

Perryman - He has come over to play predominantly midfield for a team that could use an in an under mid. It wasn't his forte at the Giants and he was normally a link up half back/wing guy, but with Mitchell at the end, Perryman could step into that role to help out Daicos, Pendles and co. Opening round is the killer once again - EDIT - 58% of CBA's and a 93 has him in as a stepping stone D5.

M. McGovern - I feel like he will be the kick-in vulture for the Blues. He will also be injured at some point and it may have already happened vs GWS in the practice game. Pass

Freijah - I'll be interested to see his role for the season. He has good size, speed and disposal. I think Dale limits his ceiling and he is just a young guy, but he may be one to keep an eye on if Dale misses time.

SDK - If he is the sole ruck for the Cats there is some potential there. He isn't a big ball winner or a great tap ruck, so I think it will limit his scoring potential.

Mills - injured, will early games and out of my team

Coleman - injured, will early games and out of my team

Doedee - injured, will early games and out of my team

Archie Roberts - A sample size of 4 games means he is a big risk. He is trying to lock down a wing role and seemed to score well when given an opportunity. The risk doesn't outweigh the reward with this pick.

Bowey - He had injury and form issues last year and is a bit of a yo-yo with his scoring. It sounds like McVee will miss early games with a TBC on the injury report. He may have an opportunity to score well early as a stepping stone but I'm not backing him. *Edit - He had a casual 27 touches and tied for the most kick-ins with May. He may be a sneaky mid price stepping stone but with his yo-yo scoring I probably won't pull the trigger.

Weller - Pretty cheap and expected to have a wing role for the Suns.  He is priced at a 55 average and could average 80. He presents value as a stepping stone in the cheap defender role and may be one to consider.

Milera - Between the injury risk and the sub risk I have cooled on Milera a bit. At his price he does provide great value, but there is no guarantee he is in the best 22 and that's what makes him tough to start.

Brain -  I am hearing he could get some early games, he hasn't shown much of a scoring history so far, but he may be one to keep an eye on if he plays opening round and kills it.

I won't get into the players that are Sinn and cheaper

Mids

Bont - Injured and out for a while, can't start

Butters - See Bont

Neale - I really wanted to start him last year and then he missed round 1 with an injury. He ended up having 4 scores in the 70's, an 87 and everything else was a ton including a couple of monsters. He ended up having off-season surgery on his foot which didn't even allow him to train last year. If he is fit and firing there is every chance he has an even better season which is insane to think. What kills the Neale pick is opening round and I have been trying to stay away from these guys (although it looks like I might end up with a bunch now)  *EDIT - Brisbane will move from opening round to round 3, lock and load

Daicos - He had a light pre-season but has looked dominant in all the practice matches with his ability to cover ground and win the ball in transition. He has an insane ceiling and he is susceptible to a team sending a tag his way, but the sheer amount of ball he wins means he has a very good floor for any other poor games. I had him as my M1 with Bont out, even with opening round being a hinderance.

Heeney - I haven't even considered Heeney through the off-season. He turned into a full time mid and had his first 115+ season. With the other options around and being another guy playing opening round, I am happy to look at him later in the year.

Treloar  - Calf injury, will miss the start of the season but was an interesting POD before that.

Serong - He started last season on fire before slowing down around the bye and back end of the season. He was accumulating a ton of possessions each week with good tackle numbers giving him that high floor. He is in on a shortlist of options to start the season with, but I like a couple of cheaper options ahead of him who feel under-priced in comparison.

Merrett - I had him in my starting team all summer as he has been ridiculously consistent for the last 5 years. He has had three averages of 115, one of 116 and one of 112. I was also completely oblivious that Essendon were playing in opening round and since I want to stay away from guys playing through that period he has worked his way out of my team. I probably should only start one of Daicos or Merrett and I'm leaning towards Daicos at the moment.

Dunkley - As a pure mid, Dunks will get you a 110 average by the end of the season. His style of play can lead to some monster scores, but he does have the odd clunker which drops the average. If I was to start one of him and Neale I'd lean towards Neale, but he is a pretty damn good option and one on my list to try and finish off my midfield.

Cripps - He returned to his 2022 form, had an amazing SC season and won his second Brownlow medal. Post bye he was a monster averaging 116 with back to back scores of 144. I don't know if he will ever get back to that 2018-2019 SC form, but 110 is a pretty good result. He may be one to get later in the year if he does put up a couple of those 70's in a row. I also see some value further down the pecking order and it is hard to start him.

Brayshaw - His post bye form last season really went under my radar. He averaged 116.5 including 3 straight scores of 137. If he can carry on that role and form he would be a shrewd pick at his price. Freo have a great bye so he will be on some shortlists, however I feel like I'd rather pay the extra for Serong or go with a cheaper 'value' pick.

LDU - He is one I feel is flying under the radar and maybe it's because people think they can get him at a cheaper price. There was a regression from the previous season where he averaged 113.6. Last season it was the lull after a great round 1, decent round 2 and then a 67 followed by an 88 and 87. He went on to average 113.4 after that point with a huge boom period in the middle of the season where he averaged 135.6 over a 5 week period showing off his ceiling. It might be trying to find those couple clunkers he puts up in a row, but he has the explosiveness to be the number 1 mid at the end of the season. There is also 0 reason that both he and Sheezel can't average big numbers. We have seen it before with Oliver and Petracca a couple seasons ago or even Neale and Dunks. What's probably keeping him out of my team right now is the lack of defensive rookies and the fact I can get Libba or Trac for less (and that cash seems to be pretty important with rookies right now).

Steele - I wasn't really sold on him last year and he started the first 5 rounds on fire which really hurt not having him. He eventually fell back to the pack, was a 108 mid post bye which ended up being his season average. He does have a great ceiling with his contested work and tackling and Macrae coming in to provide an inside presence may help him out, but he doesn't move the needle for me as a starting pick.

Walsh - Injuries in pre-season has meant I haven't seen much of Walsh in action to work out where he sits in the rotation. He is the one guy that can go out to the wing and be an AA player (something that Carlton lack opposite Acres) but he is so valuable around the contest with his running and ability to spread from stoppage. Cerra back and healthy has me thinking the rotation will mainly be  Cripps, Cerra, Walsh and Hewett, but I think I am okay letting it play out early until there is a clear cut look in that midfield.

Gulden - Out multiple weeks with an ankle but was out of contention playing opening round anyway.

Anderson - I really think this is the year that both Rowell and Anderson take the next step to be those 115+ players. They have both been on the cusp with their huge ceilings, but like the Suns they just fall away completely in games. Opening round has me passing on that risk, but I wouldn't be shocked to see them start the year with a bang.

Green - Out multiple weeks, probably wasn't on the radar with opening round anyway.

Crouch - One I really liked last year and he did exactly what I thought he would and averaged 105. He unfortunately had an injury just as he really was hitting his straps. His pure ball winning ability sees him as a potential 110 average player, but with the Crows getting in some new blood I don't know if he fits into the rotation on a consistent basis. Both he and Laird were playing the same spot and it killed their TOG, Laird has gone back, but Draper comes in along with Peatling and ANB which could see Crouch play that 65 to 70% TOG as a ball magnet and kill his ceiling. Pass.

Yeo - Injured but probably wasn't in consideration as a mid only this year.

Libba - Concussions ruined his season, but prior to the first head knock he was averaging 112 after an average of 116 the year before. He actually averaged 120 that year when you take out the concussion game with three scores under the ton, 5 scored of 140+ and thrived in his role. The Bulldogs midfield is injury depleted right now and Libba has a monster ceiling and should be a 110+ player if he can avoid the injuries. Considering he is under-priced and is the main man inside, I can see him averaging 120 until Bont/Treloar get back. Even then, he should still be good for that 110 which has me really wanting to pick him.

Laird - Where the value comes with Laird is he will very quickly get defensive status. It's a position he has played in the past, was an absolute ball magnet and  a premium player at the position. He did look a little shot trying to run around and defend the Lions smalls, had 0 kick-ins but still worked his way up to play as an extra mid and had 24 touches. At that price range I think I'd rather spend the money on an actual defender rather than the DPP hope with Laird.

Warner - He is a great player, but I've never seen him as a top line SC option. He is an impact player, but he is in and out of games too much either delivering a monster or a crap score.  Another opening round mid, pass.

Trac - He has barely been spoken about and I figured that's because he had the rib injury and may have been touch and go for round 1. When I heard he lined up to play on the weekend and then he started in the guts with Viney, Oliver and Gawn and has gone straight back into my team. He had 4 straight 110+ seasons including a 117 and 119 and was on 64 playing basically a quarter before he got injured during the King's Bday game. Lock and load at his price

Miller - I started him last year hoping he would bounce back to his 2021/2022 form, but it was a fairly disappointing season after a strong start. He suffered an injury in round 17 that saw him miss 5 weeks, but was a rollercoaster prior to that. Rowell and Anderson are probably the guys to buy ahead of him this year for the Suns.

Dawson - After a breakout 2023, Dawson was a disappointment last year along with the rest of the Crows midfield. Nicks struggled to find a rotation that worked, they lacked leg pace and it lead to a lot of inconsistent performances. Dawson's first 5 weeks were abysmal with an average of 81 and after a nice 6 week window he was a rollercoaster. The Crows look to be throwing their midfield around again this season with a bunch of new names. I want to see how it plays out before I commit to any of these guys. Early pass

Rowell - An average of 130 over the first 7 weeks had Rowell as the breakout player of the season, an 86 average over the last 10 saw him become a complete disaster for anyone that traded him in thinking he would maintain the rage. Like the rest of the Suns, Rowell struggled in the back half of the season and hit a wall. His game is physically taxing and he hasn't been able to string it together for a full season. After another pre-season, it feels like this may be the one that he carries through the whole season and pushes to be a top line mid. He wasn't in my team due to round 0 and with uncertainty as to when the Suns will play their make up game and an early bye, he will stay out of my side for the time being.

J. Kelly - Injuries have always been the worry with Kelly and last year was a repeat. In the games he did play, he never really got going as a consistent top line guy.  With Green missing early games he may have that pop in his scoring before inevitably getting injured again. Add in opening round to the injury history and it's a pass.

Wines - I started him last year by dropping Butters out of my squad and it bit me in the ass. I made the trade when he missed a week to get Butters back in and then Wines hit a run of good form before an injury game and had a nice run home with an average of 115 in the last 5 games. With Butters out, I think Drew may be the earlier beneficiary, but Wines could also start the season quite well. At his price, he has to be a keeper and I don't think that will be the case, pass.

Richards - A breakout season after a midfield move, Richards had some huge scores when he moved into the midfield on a more permeant basis. The Dogs midfield bats pretty deep and I feel like he is further down the pecking order of top scoring options, as a defender he would be one I maybe consider, but as a mid I don't think he pushes into that upper echelon. Pass.

Newcombe - With an average of 98.3 in back to back seasons, Newcombe seems due to break out. He has an insane ceiling, but puts up too many clunkers like his start to last year. With six scores sub 70 (and 5 of those were before the bye and early in the season), it is hard to pick him until there is some consistency in his scoring.

Rozee - Hamstring injuries limited him through a number of games last year so he is probably underpriced for what he can do (107.6 the year before). When they have a fully fit midfield he can get shifted to the half forward flank to rest and it can result in him being a little out of the game, but with Butters injured he should see some big minutes right in the guts and can produce with a high ceiling. At 520k he is one of a number of guys that could be worth starting, he is behind a couple in my pecking order so probably out of contention right now.

McCluggage - His best season has been an average of 103 and I don't know if he can break into that 110 group with guys like Dunkley, Neale and even Ashcroft in the CBA rotation. He will have a nice run of games but with too many mouths to feed he is a pass.

T. Kelly - His best season was his second year at the Cats. He got close in 2023 averaging 102, but he hasn't been able to break into the 105 range, let alone the 110. The Eagles are bad and Kelly said he is disinterested in Footy through the off-season. I don't see him being any better than what he is priced at, even though his very best is excellent. Easy pass

Taranto - He finally had that breakout to average 106.7 in 2023 and a monster 119 before the bye. The second half of the season for Taranto was poor with only 1 score over the ton (117) and last year was killed by injuries. An average of 94.5 was not a bad result all things considered and has lead to him being under-priced this year. Unfortunately the Tigers aren't very good and this could result in some poor scores as he will get the most attention. He isn't one I will start the year with, but he is one I will look at down the stretch as a potential upgrade for my M8/M9 spot.

Hewett - At sub 500k, Hewett provides great value, his issue the last couple of years has been a combination of injuries and the vest. Carlton have had too many like for like mids, Kennedy has now left which should see Hewett be that 4th mid with Cripps, Walsh and Cerra. He has been one I have picked up at the back end of the last two seasons post vests that has been fantastic down the stretch. Last year he averaged 110 over the last 6 and cost a bargain price of 410k. The year before he averaged 104 in the last 6 and cost 260k. 2022 he averaged 111 on the season when he was allowed to play the role without random vests and being dropped to the VFL for odd team balance reasons. There are better options to start around his price, but he is definitely one to keep an eye on, especially if he ends up around the 400k mark half way through the season.

Day - Injured for the start of last season, he had a slow start when he returned before exploding to average 114.2 over the next 10. He then scored a 40 and 10 in the last two games he played due to injury, resulting in him being under-priced to start this year. The big red flag with Day is his body. He already had an injury concern after a monster first half and that's the biggest risk in starting him. On the plus side, he has banked 148 and should rocket in price. He is hard to pass up right now, but it will come down to structure.

Doc - At around 490k and mid only Doc isn't really one I'm considering. He has apparently looked pretty rusty through pre-season and he doesn't have a defined role in the team which makes it hard to pick him. On the wing he doesn't move the needle and with Newman getting injured they have looked at moving Hollands to half back. He may not be in the inside mid rotation and as a half forward he probably won't score enough to be an elite pick. He could also see the vest early in the season if he is trying to work back into games and form. Right now it's a pass.

Drew - He would be an extremely expensive stepping stone. With Butters out injured, Drew could have an excellent first 5 weeks to the season. Last year he averaged 110 over the first 5 before falling away, as a consistent inside presence I wouldn't be surprised if he had a similar start to the year, but it's hard to predict when the falloff will happen and it becomes a burnt trade.

J. Daicos - He has moved to a half back role to be the distributor along with Houston, if he does get defender status he may have been a sneaky starting pick that could get a bunch of touches and score in a pretty good range for his price. Maybe one to watch opening round, but there are better options that I prefer.

Parish - IF he was 30k cheaper it would have been hard to pass him up at that price. An absolute ball magnet, but he has really battled with injury the last few seasons and is injured again.

Viney - I was surprised that his career high average is only 100, otherwise he has mainly been a mid 90's guy through his career.  At 30, I don't see him breaking out, and while he may be 'under-priced' compared to his career high, even if he gets back to that form he isn't scoring enough to be a top end guy and he isn't cheap enough to be worth it as a stepping stone. Easy pass

Danger - He was a lock for close to a decade as one of the premium players at his position, however the last 3 years Danger has battled with his body and become a mid 80's guy. His points per minute isn't bad in a lot of the games he plays, he just plays far less as the Cats try to manage his body. If he can pick up forward status part way through the season he may be a decent pick if he comes cheap enough. It's easy to do worse than Danger as the F7 that can potentially cover 2 positions if the price is right. One I'll look at later in the season, but not a starting option.

Cerra - I have had him in and out of my side all pre-season. Ignoring the 'tearing up the track' cliches, Cerra was one I looked at last year as a potential starting pick. After a disappointing start to his Carlton career, Cerra had an amazing season 2023. The most impressive of these games was the one he injured his hamstring against the Pies and was sitting on 104 at HT. He had 5 scores above 130 along with another 2 just below at 129 and 127. His ceiling was amazing and he started to be consistent week in and week out. I personally didn't start him, as while that run was amazing, he hasn't really been in that ballpark before and was priced at 600k. The risk didn't outweigh the reward and it was a good call. The other issue has been his hamstrings. The sheer volume of hamstring injuries he has had is ridiculous. I believe it was over 5 in 12 months and soft tissue injuries don't necissarily get better when the intensity goes up. The Blues sent him to Doha for an intensive training block in hopes that it will do the trick, but I still see his body as a big red flag. Worst case, as long as his body holds up you're getting a 90 average player and he is priced at around 83. Best case he comes back to the 2023 form and averages 108+ and you end up with a potential keeper. The risk is definitely worth the reward, right now I can probably only afford one of Ashcroft or Cerra and I like the Ashcroft upside more. Although I may have just talked myself into a restructure to get him in

Soligo - He had a bit of a mini breakout last year and brought an X-Factor to a one dimensional Crows midfield. He had a great game vs the Dees and had a nice 6 week stretch. Another pre-season should see some natural growth, however the Crows midfield rotation looks a little muddy and I don't think I want to risk starting him. Pass

De Goey - Injured anyway so pass

Mids 2.0

Callaghan - I started him in 2023 and he had a fantastic opening game that season as well with his ability to cover the ground. He looks like he could become one of the best wings in the comp if his body could hold up with his running power. Wings tend to not score consistently enough in SC to start. However it looks like the Giants are playing him as a CBA mid which backs up the pre-season game and resulted in a monster Round 1 score. In this role with his body size, speed and agility he could be a SC gem, particularly at his price. Now the worry is how do the Giants change the midfield rotation when Tom Green returns after their bye? Callaghan had 22 (88%) CBA's for the game which was by far number 1 for the Giants, the next best was Kelly with 18 (72%). Last year Green number 1 and involved in 80% of the Giants CBA's. Cogs was completely left out of that rotation and was good for 63% last year missing 10 games and being injured in some others. It's a really tough situation to pick as his price rise won't come until post their round 3 game to make the quick cash and I don't know if he is going to be a keeper.

W. Ashcroft - After a Norm Smith Medal last year and priced at a modest 441k, Ashcroft is one I have had locked in my side for the majority of the pre-season. He was coming off an ACL injury and took some time to get going, but once he did, he averaged 107 over the last 7 including finals. Priced at an average of 82, there is a ton of upside with this pick. His highest CBA percantage last year was 50% and he ended up finishing 3rd out of the mids in the pre-season match, ahead of McCluggage. My only worry is that with Neale, Dunks and Zorko all feasting last year, there are only so many points to go around. It could be McCluggage that takes the hit and I am hoping at worst he could be a stepping stone, although I can see him breaking out to be a 110ish option. However maybe the right play is finding the cash for Day or starting Callaghan who already has the monster in his rotation.

Hopper - Between his own injury issues and how bad Richmond are I don't think I can start him. He doesn't look like he is anywhere near the player he was with the Giants when he was at his best and his knee is largely responsible for it. Pass

H. Reid - He very well could have that big second year breakout that Daicos/Oliver have had before him. He has all the tools to impact games and is perfectly built for SC. With the Eagles being so bad, I don't know if the risk outweighs the reward and he will be a bit of a yo-yo until he has the tank to run through the midfield more consistently and rip games apart on his own. Next year is more likely going to be the season that sees a spike in his scoring, pass for now.

T. Powell and Simpkin - 2 for 1 here. Powell had a bit of a resurgence last year, particularly early after a hot start. Simpkin's year was a disaster from the get go after he was laid out by Webster in a pre-season game and never really got going. Powell had a pretty strong pre-season game and was heavily in that midfield rotation, however the team lacked Parker, Simpkin and the injured Wardlaw who will also be in that rotation. Simpkin starred in the All-Stars game winning the BOG and looks to be back to some great form at a huge discount. He could probably make up 10 to 15 points if he is that third guy in the rotation while Wardlaw is out. It's tough to pick what that midfield is going to look like outside of LDU and Sheez being the mainstays, in a timeshare both may not be great picks. Right now, Parker is the one I may take the risk with since he has the ability to play as a marking forward and hit the scoreboard unlike the other two.

Cogs - An injury filled seasons saw Cogs average 79 after back to back seasons averaging 101. He is heavily involved in their midfield rotation and way under-priced at 427k. With a lot of value in the midfield along with playing opening round, he has fallen down the pecking order. If he has a monster round 1 I think a few of us may be scrambling to get him in as a stepping stone.  EDIT - Interestingly had 0 CBA's in the Pies game and looks to be playing more half forward

Prestia - Injured again, pass

Shiel - A role change to the HBF for Shiel could see him be a valuable pick for two reasons. 1. He is priced reasonably at 400k and 2. He could pick up defender status making him a DPP option. He has often been let down by his body but can score well when fit. I would have liked to see him play a real game before committing to him, but with the bye changes he is definitely out. Maybe a sneaky sideways for an underperforming player post their bye. 

T. Mitchell - Currently injured and looks to probably be out of the 22 anyway. Pass

Bruhn - Currently injured, skip

Ginbey - Another with a position change, Ginbey is moving to half back for the Eagles and could see a bit of easy ball in the process. He scored 71 off 15 touches in the practice game without seeing a CBA. He should pick up DPP as a defender, but I don't know if he is worth locking in, even at the pretty handy price of 373k.

Blicavs - Now a KPD again, I don't see it really helping his scoring out playing as that lock down defender. SDK looks to be the preferred option in the ruck, but if that changes part way through the season he may be worth a sneaky look at a discounted price.

Peatling - If he was a forward, I probably would have locked him into my side. As a mid pick, there is better value elsewhere and I can't justify the selection. He also doesn't have a defined role with so many new faces at the Crows, the upside is fantastic though with an average of 93 in his last 6 when the vest came off (with a 40 in that batch).

Sparrow - He will be in the midfield rotation for the Dees, most likely as the 4th or 5th option after Trac, Oliver and Viney, but I don't see him scoring enough to be worth considering. Pass.

Perkins - If he is going to break out, this year makes the most sense. Year 5 seems to be the season most guys take that huge step, although he seems to be without a defined role which is a pass. One to maybe keep an eye on if other mid price options bust. Maybe one to target after the Bombers bye if he does break out as a sideways trade.

O. Hollands - He would be picked due to the DPP he will receive in round 6. Newman out leaves that role open, Boyd isn't getting a gig and it looks like Saad and Hollands are the guys to rebound off half back. His disposal can be iffy at times and he is excellent defensively. I think this frees up Saad to be more attacking and he is the one I'd look at first. Pass for now.

Mackenzie - He is going to be a gun, it's just a matter of when not if. He moves through traffic so smoothly, really similar to LDU where he just looks like he is gliding and weaving through congestion. If he was a 15 to 20 CBA per game player he is a lock, he only had 9 the other night, yet still scored 97 off 16 touches. He probably can't be a starting pick, but he is one to keep an eye on if the opportunity comes this season.

T. Dow - Richmond mids that are not rookies and not named Taranto or Prestia are 100% a pass. Anyone with the last name Dow is also going to be a butcher, pass.

Windsor - He is supposed to play HBF and with his ability to break lines and cover the ground, he could be a sneaky pick up before he gets DPP. At 320k he would need to average 90 and I don't know if he has that ability in year 2. Pass right now

Ross - A better option than Dow but he also needs to average 90 and most likely won't even crack 80. Pass.

Cumming - 2021/2022 he was a mid 90's player taking the kick-ins for the Giants and playing off HB. Moving to the wing killed his scoring along with injuries. If he moves to the HBF for the Crows and gets kick-in duty, he could be an extremely handy DPP option that is also way under-priced. He was in my team for chunks of the off-season, but he is one I will have to cull to get a stronger backline.

Lord - Sneaky pick of the mid price mids, Lord looked great when he got game time last year, has looked great through pre-season and has earned himself a best 23 spot for round 1. He is a risk for the vest and could come out of the side when some more experienced players return, but he could continue to average 80 priced at a 49. JS is the obvious risk.

Rucks

Gawn - The clear cut number 1 when healthy, he has averaged over 120 in 5 of the last 7 seasons with lows of 113 in 2022 and 104.5 in 2023. He has still played a ton of games, playing 21, 20 and 20 the last 3 seasons, so the missed games is at 2-3 a year. The wheels are bound to fall off at some point, at 33 that is when some of the past top rucks fell off (Sandi, Goldy and Cox) so history says that his output will most likely not be in that 120 range. I'd expect some regression and with a couple of cheaper options that could jump into the top tier I'm thinking I pass. It very well could bite me in the ass and this is the one I'm most nervous about

Xerri - A breakout season going from an average of 72 to 119 is huge. He is the second most expensive ruck and one of 3 over 600k. Looking at some of the top rucks in previous years, this is how they have followed up their breakout season. Gawn 118.5 in 2016 and 91.6 in 2017. English 128 in 2023 and 108 in 2024. Marshall 110 in 2019 and 103.7 in 2020. Witts 109.9 in 2022 and 106 in 2023. Darcy 118 in 2021 and 102 in 2022. Briggs 108.9 in 2023 and 95.8 in 2024. Goldy 113 in 2011 and 93 in 2012. Grundy is the only one to really buck the trend with back to back 130 seasons. The stats say that he will crash back to the pack and picking him at that price tag is a really difficult thing to do. Currently it's a pass.

Marshall - The 600k option I felt best about, Marshall has played 23 games in 2023 and 2024 while averaging 114.3 and 112. He is pretty consistent, was cheaper than Gawn and Xerri with 0 competition for his spot. Unfortunately he has had some injuries through pre-season and there was talk of him playing more forward, especially with King out early. A rookie in Harry Boyd will then start with the ruck duties and Marshall would be the second ruck and in turn it would tank his scoring. Between the injuries and the forward talk it has seen him come out of my side. If he is named as a sole ruck for round 1, it will be tempting to slot him back in.

Nank - The quiet achiever and the POD to start. Nank ended up averaging 110 last year which was a career high after increasing his average 8 points the year before to average 104.3. He has a great ceiling and went on a run of games last year where he averaged 126 in that 8 game stretch. He is currently in 3% of teams and could be a great starting option with the intention to move to the flex. The issue is going to be if he can stay fit and not miss games.

English - A monster 2023 before he regressed back to numbers closer to his 2022 last year. He had a great first 8 weeks last year before he hit a form slump, some injuries and just looked off when watching him play. It could have been the contract weighing on him, but he was getting pushed around too easily by the bigger rucks and looked like the old English. It's very likely that 2023 was an outlier in his career, but I think with the uncertainty around the position an average of 108 with a potential 120+ ceiling is worth taking the punt on. Currently in as my R1 but I am a little worried about it.

Witts -  He will probably average around the 105 to 108 range, which is pretty good but feels like it will be a step below the top guys. I'd rather take the risk with English, pass.

Cameron - He had a monster opening round rucking against Keefe when Briggs went down. He broke out last year to average 105, however an 18 against the Lions in round 3 is an absolute season killing score. He otherwise would have averaged 110 on the season and with not much behind him at the Pies in the ruck stocks he makes for an interesting starting option. I'll currently pass

Grundy - He is underdone coming into the season and ended up scoring an 84 against Meek in opening round. He isn't near his 2021 level (which would be an instant lock) and he really struggled at the back end of last season. Unfortunately he looks like he is past it as an option for SC. Pass

Meek - He was on my radar the year he was traded to the Hawks. I felt he was a better ruck option than Reeves and I was planning to start him. The Hawks went with Reeves before Meek took over as the full time R1 for them last year. He looks like a solid play in that role and even performed pretty well in spot duty when Darcy was injured in his Freo days. The ceiling is excellent and he just came off a pretty good showing against Grundy. The downside is the early bye which is why he was out of contention, but I am warming to a Meek/TDK combo.

TDK - I've always said if he is the sole ruck I'm picking him. He has all the tools to be the number 1 ruck, the issue has been a combination of his body and the Blues persistence to play Pitto in the lead ruck role. Pitto is out at least 6 weeks and I don't think he should be getting a game unless there are mass injuries to the Blues talls forcing TDK forward.  We got a taste of what he could really do over a 5 week stretch last year as the lead ruck where he dominated with an average of 144. The ceiling is nuts and there is more of a risk in not starting him. Lock and load.

Darcy - Expected to miss early, pass.

McInerney - He's a pretty good player but never been fantasy relevant. I don't see him having a breakout this year and I don't think his style of play leads to big scores anyway. Pass

Briggs - Another that had a drop off after a breakout season, Briggs was huge for the Giants when he came in for them in 2023. An early concussion sees him out until after their bye, easy pass now.

ROB - Super safe JS with Strachan injured but hasn't been relevant in years. Pass.

Sweet - An under the radar pick, the job is his and he can score pretty well as the sole option. He could jump up a tier this year, but I think I'd rather a Meek/TDK combo than a Sweet/TDK combo if I can get the extra 80k. Pass.

Draper and Bryan- They are priced quite well and Draper looked amazing in the pre-season game. They are expected to split the ruck duties, both could be in play if the other gets injured and they come at a discount with DPP, but currently a pass.

Flynn - He played one of the worst quarters of football that I've seen against North in the practice match and still finished on a score of 98. At his price he makes the most sense as a flex option. Not only can he provide ruck cover, but you get a number 1 ruck for a team at 260k and can still field him while playing two other premium rucks. He is an easy switch to a good rookie at any position if he flops. Lock

Keefe - Briggs is out concussed but likely back after their bye and Keefe scored crap in the role anyway. Pass.

Reidy - Potential R3 option with Darcy out, he is expected to be the Freo lead ruck while Jackson plays a joker role. Could be a nice stash although Darcy is expected back early.

Forwards

JHF - I originally had him as my F1 but he is currently out of my side. He is heavily in the midfield rotation with a great ceiling and the forwards don't have any stand out scorers. With other lines being weak and the forward line having some value picks I figured I'd go much cheaper with my F1 and he is out.

Rankine - When in the midfield for the Crows last season he tore games apart. He then tore his hamstring. The injury risk and uncertain Crows midfield rotation has him out along with my structure.

Moore - One of my better pickups last season, he's probably a safe bet for a 95 average. He could have a couple of crap scores back to back but he covers so much ground and gets involved in scoring chains to have some monsters as well. Probably an upgrade target with more value in the middle of the pack.

Jackson - Will play forward, ruck and midfield for Freo, as a forward it keeps his ceiling a bit lower. As a number 1 ruck he is a lock, but it seems they want to play him forward early so a pass.

Daniels - Under the radar option, he averaged a career high 90 and scored 100 in opening round. He covers the ground in a similar way to Dylan Moore and has speed to burn. He may be one to keep an eye on as an upgrade.

McKay - Don't think I'll look at him for my team this year, key forwards are a rollercoaster and he has never cracked a 90 average. Pass

Cameron - The one key forward I'd consider starting, he gets up and plays like an extra mid at times, he would need to average 95 and I prefer the cheaper options.

ANB - If he is heavily involved as a mid for the Crows he could be a sneaky start. He has a good ceiling and can hit the scoreboard. Holding off until I get a better idea of their line-up.

Treacy - Key forward that will see a lot of supply, still a pass with how volatile they are. Maybe if he is super cheap after a couple poor games as an option for F6/F7

Waterman - Same as Treacy

Curnow - The most upside of all the key forwards, missing early so it's a pass. Keep an eye on him as an upgrade target.

Baker - He is expected to play off HB which could be pretty good for his scoring. One to keep an eye on but doesn't fit my structure

Miers - He is involved in a lot of scoring chains which is good for SC, although he has put up some season ending clunkers which keeps him at around that 80 average. Maybe worth grabbing after one of those as a potential F7 option down the track. Pass.

Keays - As a mid he is a great option, when he is in that half forward role that has him out of the rotation it's a miss.

Greene - Will miss games and doesn't seem to have the same consistency or ceiling as previous years. Pass

Rayner - He would need significant mid minutes to make a jump, it's a crowded rotation and I see Ashcroft getting more time in there ahead of him. Pass.

Bolton - He has burnt me in the past with his volatile scoring, if he is heavily involved as a mid he is worth the risk, but right now I'd rather go with other options. Pass

Kennedy -  Potentially will get a ton of early midfield minutes with the Dogs injuries. He can average 90 through that period, but he could also be out of the team just as quick when they return or pushed into that half forward role which kills his ceiling. Pass.

Lipinski -

Macrae -

B. Smith -

Harmes -

Bailey -

Graham -

Thilthorpe -

Lukosius -

Wilson -

Forwards 2.0

Hipwood -

Rachele -

Parker -

Sanders -

Finlayson -

Humphrey -

Daniel -

Silvagni -

H. Garcia -

Wicks -

Hutchinson -

McInnes -

Motlop -

So Darcy out indefinitely, does Reidy come into play as R3? They played him in the ruck late in the season and Jackson forward

I reckon he does come in. Might be handy cos I think they like Jackson better as a FWD

Quote from: arbel on February 17, 2025, 12:14:07 PMI reckon he does come in. Might be handy cos I think they like Jackson better as a FWD

I'm also reading that they don't want Treacy to be the second ruck if Jackson is the primary. It will open up the door, but I also saw Darcy is expected back by round 3 which would kill any potential price rise

I'm screwing around with a few structures and I like the look of the 'zero forward' line. In NFL Fantasy there is a strategy called 0 RB. Once all the top guys are off the board, the idea is to load up on as many guys that could provide upside and draft other positions instead to capitalise on total points.

Most teams are looking to have JHF as their F1 with Macrae at F2. I like the look of my team more when I take out JHF and maybe play a forward rookie in the place of a defensive rookie. Someone like Hewett or Stone could hold down that F6 spot and allow me to bring in a legit D3 premium. I was going light in the midfield instead, but with some of the top rookies in Lalor and Smith either missing the start or out for the entirety of the season, I currently have Daicos in as a placeholder and I really like the lineup.

I'll post the teams in my next post

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This is my team with Mills at D3 and JHF at F1

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This is my 0 Forward team. I still had the cash to bring Tsatas in as a placeholder, whereas I only had the cash for a pretty crap D7

Daicos has an early bye, it won't be a savage penalty but it's still a handicap.

Quote from: Bully on February 24, 2025, 09:48:28 PMDaicos has an early bye, it won't be a savage penalty but it's still a handicap.

That was originally why I never even considered him. I just had a look at the byes and if I do go with Daicos and Stewart they will both miss round 3 along with both Ashcrofts, Smith and Mills. That might have to be a swap around since it's way too many guys missing in one round

I also for some reason thought Merrett wasn't playing opening round

Quote from: Mat0369 on February 24, 2025, 10:24:38 PMI also for some reason thought Merrett wasn't playing opening round

I did too, the round zero does my head in, Merrett is actually a good pick this year, pity I can't afford him.

I like both options, might assist with that round 3 bye now Mills is out for the first month of the season.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 25, 2025, 05:44:40 PMI like both options, might assist with that round 3 bye now Mills is out for the first month of the season.

Back to the drawing board then, thought I was close to settled. Maybe Milera?

Quote from: Bully on February 25, 2025, 06:00:26 PM

Quote from: Colliwobblers on February 25, 2025, 05:44:40 PMI like both options, might assist with that round 3 bye now Mills is out for the first month of the season.

Back to the drawing board then, thought I was close to settled. Maybe Milera?

I "want" the mid priced mids, but I think I "need" the mid priced defenders. Talk Travaglia and Saad may not debut it's pretty slim pickings down there unless a couple of Richmond lads get up.

I'm not super keen on the Rivers, Sam, Milera, Schoe options and gone slightly cold on Roberts for the price. Backline is proving difficult.

I'm leaning towards a prem mid out again, 4 prem defenders and someone like Cerra to go with Oliver and Ashcroft

I had Butters in for Daicos and Serong for Merrett. Turns out Butters is now out to start the year so that plan is out the window.

Keep an eye on the Rd 3 bye though.  Stewart, Daicos and W Ashcroft all have that bye. Personally prefer only one prem for the early bye rounds 2 at a pinch.

While I continue to go through my watchlist of players earlier in the thread, I figured I should post some of my drafts. I think I have 5 screenshotted on my PC and some are earlier in the thread, but I'll post my last couple with my train of thought

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Once it was announced Bont was out, I completely gutted my team, added my locks and built the squad from there. There was a complete disregard for the early byes, hence Roberts, Perryman, Smith and Daicos. My locks in this team were Sheez, Daicos, O'Driscoll, Tstatas, Ashcroft, Sheldrick, Knevitt, TDK, Boyd, Macrae, Smith, Parker, Daniel and Davidson. I then filled out the rest of the rookies and prems and tried to bat deep down back with the lack of rookies. I liked Libba with Bont out and played around with my cash to try and get the best combo on field.

With the announcement that Brisbane and Geelong will play in round 3, I have made a change to my team yet again.

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I really wanted to get Neale, Zorko and Will Ashcroft (who had been in pretty much every other draft) into my side. I needed to dump some players in and out and tried to free up the cash to upgrade Roberts and Perryman to Holmes and Stewart.

I lose Ryan who had been in my side for a while with his solid bye and low ownership. Libba goes down to Ashcroft to give me some cash to tweak the lineup. I have a few worries with this team, but I feel like it gets me out of the hole in a bunch of spots.

Concerns
* Holmes/Stewart don't bounce back or live up to the hype
*Clark after one good season regresses
*No Ryan - if he goes bonkers, does the moving around guys cost me?
* Ashcroft doesn't take the next step
*No Daicos - if he goes nuts, not having him could really hurt
*No Gawn - I started English instead of Gawn last year and it bit me in the ass, history repeats itself?
*A bit light at F5 with SPP and having Davidson on field.
*Lack of cash gen down back with 2 Essendon rookies and them losing a game until who knows when
*Round 16 bye I'll be missing 6 guys already

This will still probably change a few times, but I don't hate it

I worry about your rucks, I think you need one of Gawn or Xerri, much easier to sideways if things don't work out.

I've been flat out at work and didn't get much of a chance to look at my team. I think I managed to bring Lalor in last minute (thought he was already in) and it looks like I forgot to trade Lynch out. Nank I considered as a ruck option but he also didn't make the late move in. I didn't see the Ashcroft news and he is currently on my field. I need to play around with my side and hopefully get something locked in for tomorrow

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I thought I had the VC on TDK, so that sucks. I ended up swapping Ashcroft to Draper now that I can look at the teams. If Marshall is named as the lone ruck I am contemplating English to Marshall and I can use Boyd as my loop for this week. Other option is Reid or Reidy at R3 and maybe Hewett with his DPP if he isn't named.

Lynch may get suspended which sucks, I thought I had him out of my squad but turns out I didn't. It could have been worse, I could have had Motlop in there as a place holder so thank god for that.

I ended up grabbing Meek instead of English so that was a spectacular backfire. Of course chasing the points from last week was a fail. When I saw that both Marshall and Boyd were named I held off the Marshall trade. I should have stuck with English who was my R1 all pre-season and I got cold feet.

Lynch copped a week, that's also fun. It looks like it may get challenged, but being best 18 I'd hold.

Tsatas was a potato, Prior didn't score all that well either. Reid took some nice intercepts but looked like a deer in the headlights with the ball so I'm glad I avoided him so far. The other two on field isn't ideal.

I still have no idea what to do with my rookie situation and I'm also trying to work out my potential loop option. Meek in gave me some decent cash at least.

One thing I will add about Meek, his hits to advantage in this game were ridiculous. He went at almost 40% which is nuts. He just managed to do nothing around the ground. It's a nice floor though if he keeps dominating in the ruck like that

I'm wondering if Tsatas is a hold? TOG was very low and Langford is out so you'd expect he'll play next week.

Meek will be fine he's a beast. One week for Lynch is no worries, Davidson should score well enough to field, fingers crossed because I will be.

Not having NOD or any of the top end rooks other than O'Sullivan, I can't see me holding Tsatas.

50 is actually very good from 57% TOG but now JS comes into play. Have to wonder why he was on the bench so long, I feel like it was the entire start of the game.

One only defender rookie was 100% the play this season.

My initial worry with Tsatas, and the reason I thought he was a trap, Parish is a couple weeks away which pushes him further down that midfield rotation.

The one positive, you would think he is behind Merrett, Caldwell, Durham in that CBA rotation, he actually had 20 which is two more than Merrett and Durham in limited game time.

I was able to watch 0 games again and just catching up on scores now. What the f'ing F!

It looks like Roberts came back to save a potential disaster. Ryan had his worst round 1 since 2022 (the last time I had him and started him) and scored a 66. Paton was subbed on 43, Perryman had a whopping 62. Sheez was my captain and it looks like he also came back to score a 106.

Mids were worse. Lachie Neale.......what a disaster. Ashcroft and O'Sullivan were both bad, lucky I brought Levi in (hopefully he doesn't get subbed) and Knevitt was on my bench.

Parker a disappointing 69, Daniel okay with 81, Davidson awful with a 39 and SPP the worst of the lot with an 18!

I don't think I'm going to crack 2k, shower, I might not crack 1900

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 16, 2025, 01:50:07 AMI was able to watch 0 games again and just catching up on scores now. What the f'ing F!

It looks like Roberts came back to save a potential disaster. Ryan had his worst round 1 since 2022 (the last time I had him and started him) and scored a 66. Paton was subbed on 43, Perryman had a whopping 62. Sheez was my captain and it looks like he also came back to score a 106.

Mids were worse. Lachie Neale.......what a disaster. Ashcroft and O'Sullivan were both bad, lucky I brought Levi in (hopefully he doesn't get subbed) and Knevitt was on my bench.

Parker a disappointing 69, Daniel okay with 81, Davidson awful with a 39 and SPP the worst of the lot with an 18!

I don't think I'm going to crack 2k, shower, I might not crack 1900

Savage round, but fortunately everything is a fixable with some immediate action. I think in the case of Perryman it's time to move, any player from Sicily, Stewart or Dale would be a much better bet.

Powell-Pepper also needs to go, can't even sideways to Lynch with the suspension so need to get Kako to fill that spot.

Yep savage Round I have 6 players with less than 60.  SPP who I also have has to go or sit on bench,
I did not bring Levi back in as waiting to see whether he will be subbed in future strong mids to break into. Maybe a straight swap for Tsatas.

Round 1

Score: 2003
Rank: 83,752
Round Rank:  83,752
Cash: $73,900

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Good: Zorko, Roberts, O'Driscoll, L. Ashcroft, Lalor, Knevitt, TDK, Macrae, Smith, Flynn
Pass: Sheez, Boyd, Daniel
Bad: Prior, Trac, Oliver, Camporeale, Meek, Parker, Lynch, Stone
Ugly: Ryan, Perryman, Paton, W. Ashcroft, O'Sullivan, Tsatas, Davidson
Burn it all down: Leake, Neale, SPP

This was an absolute disaster round. Not a single mid cracked the ton, I'm the kiss of death on a couple of players I brought in like Luke Ryan where he has never performed well when in my side. Rookies were the shambles and I'm trying to work out which ones I'm missing. Right now I think I may make two moves, BE's pending.

Leake to Trainor and maybe Perryman to someone like Bowey, especially if May is out a while. He and Salem have a nice floor as the kick-in guys in the interim. The cash on a downgrade may allow me to upgrade Ashcroft the next week if I need to. It also gives me a second look at a lot of the rookies before I jump the gun, the scoring is volotile and it's not about chasing points after a week.

Given the Neale fiasco I reckon you did ok to hit 2000, many plonked the C on him so that was one landmine avoided. I would say hold Neale and focus on Perryman, either down to SDK or up to Sicily/Stewart/Dale.

I'm tempted to do the following

Leake > Trainor (think I do this regardless)
SPP > Warner
Perryman > Stewart/Dale

That means I have just Prior on field down back, Lindsay and Hall may be the only two rookies I'm really missing and I get some cash gen out of Warner right away

Otherwise Perryman down to Bowey is another option

Or just hold Perryman one more week

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 20, 2025, 01:38:23 AMI'm tempted to do the following

Leake > Trainor (think I do this regardless)
SPP > Warner
Perryman > Stewart/Dale

That means I have just Prior on field down back, Lindsay and Hall may be the only two rookies I'm really missing and I get some cash gen out of Warner right away

I think moving Perryman on is the right play. All those choices are good. I would hold Leake though for this week. The only other DEF rookie that'll change price this week is Paton, who you have. Basically gives you a free shot to look at all of them and see who could be best

Are you comfortable holding Lynch for the week.

In two minds on SPP whether to give another week to see if he can improve,  Plays Tigers so if he spuds then adjust next week.

Your choice though whether to trade.  This may be the one time the golden rule do not trade after 1 round may be broken.

Quote from: arbel on March 20, 2025, 11:40:02 AMI think moving Perryman on is the right play. All those choices are good. I would hold Leake though for this week. The only other DEF rookie that'll change price this week is Paton, who you have. Basically gives you a free shot to look at all of them and see who could be best

I would need to do Leake to Trainor to be able to afford Dale. I think I'm okay with backing in Trainor's JS for the time being as a slow burn at D8.

I feel like I may need all 3 trades next week as well with O'Sullivan, Tsatas, Neale, Ryan, Parker and W. Ashcroft all struggling round 1. I'm expecting most to bounce back, but it's handy having the extra trade up my sleeve if I need it.

Quote from: Ringo on March 20, 2025, 02:41:05 PMAre you comfortable holding Lynch for the week.

In two minds on SPP whether to give another week to see if he can improve,  Plays Tigers so if he spuds then adjust next week.

Your choice though whether to trade.  This may be the one time the golden rule do not trade after 1 round may be broken.

Lynch looked much better after QT against Carlton. I also have a full squad this week, so I'm not needing to trade donuts to get to 18.

It should be an easy matchup for SPP, but scoring 18 is a bit of a killer. I think I'd rather take the instant cash and back Lynch

So with Flynn out I have brought SPP back in. He hangs on for another week. This is what I was thinking for trades

Flynn > Warner
Leake > Trainor
Perryman > Stewart

I really should have gone Dale but that's how it fell. Now that I have traded out Flynn that has opened up another couple of options. I could go with Holmes, Clark or Sinclair instead. So my other options are

Sinclair + 18.8k
Clark + 47.3k
Holmes + 77.1k
Stewart + 90k

Stewart and the cash probably the right call given what else we might need to move on.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2025, 01:31:05 AMSo with Flynn out I have brought SPP back in. He hangs on for another week. This is what I was thinking for trades

Flynn > Warner
Leake > Trainor
Perryman > Stewart

I really should have gone Dale but that's how it fell. Now that I have traded out Flynn that has opened up another couple of options. I could go with Holmes, Clark or Sinclair instead. So my other options are

Sinclair + 18.8k
Clark + 47.3k
Holmes + 77.1k
Stewart + 90k

Sinclair is a notorious slow starter, I'm leaving him for later in the season when he usually hits top gear. I'd be grabbing Holmes, I think the DPP will give you some excellent coverage when we eventually get a DPP rookie nailing down a spot in the midfield.

Sinclair back in town by the looks of things, didn't need much of a rev up, might have to consider him, Horne-Francis to Sinclair, Roberts to Sinclair, these are potential moves.

Sinclair or Dale was the right play. I was pretty lucky, I swapped Stewart out real late to Holmes, although Holmes getting tagged worried me (and he copped a hard one). It could have been far worse in the end if I did bring in Stewart.

Trainor was a bit of a flop but I'm okay with him at D8 and I'll see how Warner goes tomorrow.

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 23, 2025, 12:55:28 AMSinclair or Dale was the right play. I was pretty lucky, I swapped Stewart out real late to Holmes, although Holmes getting tagged worried me (and he copped a hard one). It could have been far worse in the end if I did bring in Stewart.

Trainor was a bit of a flop but I'm okay with him at D8 and I'll see how Warner goes tomorrow.

So good you got Stewart out, 91 with a hard tag is a good sign for Holmes. It was a hard watch especially when the SC scoring froze with him on 8. It was believable for awhile that he was still on 8 points into the third quarter.

I was thinking NWM for Perryman until I saw what Sinclair scored.

The worst thing about Stewart is he's about to haemorrhage cash even if he gets up, could be dirt cheap in a couple of weeks.

Round 2

Score: 1975
Rank: 40,063
Round Rank:  11,663
Cash: $77,100

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Good: Zorko, Roberts, Neale, Oliver, NOD, L. Ashcroft, Tsatas, Macrae, Daniel, SPP, Davidson
Pass: Ryan, Holmes, W. Ashcroft, Meek, TDK
Bad: Sheezel, Prior, Trac, Campo, Parker, Warner, Knevitt
Ugly: Trainor, Lalor, O'Sullivan

A pretty solid week after a crap Round 1.

I had 1 bad trade and 2 okay trades this week. Leake to Trainor ended up a nothing move. Initially I needed the cash but with Flynn out I didn't need to make the move and should have held. Flynn to Holmes was okay, 3 of my other 4 options killed it (Clark, Sinclair and Dale), but I thankfully dodged the Stewart bullet.

Neale bounced back and holding Tsatas looks like it will pay off. I have question marks around a handful of picks that bounced back but didn't really wow. My trades for the week below

O'Sullivan > Lindsay

I'm contemplating some more moves on the underperforming players I do have. Ryan didn't look great again but somehow got to a 95, Trac was moved forward and hasn't had the output I would have hoped for  over two weeks. Ashcroft looked like a disaster but scored about 60 points really, really quickly to salvage a decent score. Parker was slow again but the CBA volume is a tick. Meek had a disastrous first quarter and was on about -5 for most of it. To finish on 90 was pretty good, but two below par weeks isn't great.

I still have my eye on Bowey, Sinclair and Libba are the other two. Rookie wise, with Lindsay, I think I hit most of them now. I need to look at scores but Dewar may be a sneaky.

Nice Trade proposed as Lindsay appears a must. Henderson another option if you need cash, Have you thought of O'Sullivan in defence with the Stewart injury,

Bowey looked good might drop a bit when May back, completely different role but May does distribute a bit back there.

Parker is like sanders not impressing but not going backwards either so definitely not a pressing issue and nice money to have sitting there, better than rookie scoring.

Petracca is a hard read in a game that bad. Believe he will get back to his best, Gawn being beaten makes life hard for him, I don't imagine that will happen again any time soon.

W Ashcroft similar to Parker, not doing any harm and if/when he hits his straps doubt you'll regret owning him.

O'Sullivan to Lindsay - tick.

Lalor a lot of money on the bench but I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

Quote from: Ringo on March 24, 2025, 09:14:54 AMNice Trade proposed as Lindsay appears a must. Henderson another option if you need cash, Have you thought of O'Sullivan in defence with the Stewart injury,

Stewart had been playing more in the midfield, with SDK going to the ruck and Jake Kolo injured it seems he has a spot as that third tall. I only have 3 rookie defenders and after bringing in Trainor I'm not burning a trade to get him out. Paton I had reserved for Bice last week and Prior would be the one I move on to get him in. I just don't know if it's worth burning the trade unless Prior is dropped.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 24, 2025, 03:38:04 PMBowey looked good might drop a bit when May back, completely different role but May does distribute a bit back there.

Parker is like sanders not impressing but not going backwards either so definitely not a pressing issue and nice money to have sitting there, better than rookie scoring.

Petracca is a hard read in a game that bad. Believe he will get back to his best, Gawn being beaten makes life hard for him, I don't imagine that will happen again any time soon.

W Ashcroft similar to Parker, not doing any hard and if/when he hits his straps doubt you'll regret owning him.

O'Sullivan to Lindsay - tick.

Lalor a lot of money on the bench but I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 24, 2025, 03:38:04 PMBowey looked good might drop a bit when May back, completely different role but May does distribute a bit back there.

Parker is like sanders not impressing but not going backwards either so definitely not a pressing issue and nice money to have sitting there, better than rookie scoring.

Petracca is a hard read in a game that bad. Believe he will get back to his best, Gawn being beaten makes life hard for him, I don't imagine that will happen again any time soon.

W Ashcroft similar to Parker, not doing any hard and if/when he hits his straps doubt you'll regret owning him.

O'Sullivan to Lindsay - tick.

Lalor a lot of money on the bench but I'm not sure that's a bad thing.

It would be hard to get Bowey in with my current structure. It would require some rearranging with Tsatas and Trac down to Callaghan to potentially make it work. I don't think it's worth it and last week was the time to make the trade, May could be back in the next couple of weeks and he will take those kick-in points. Salem has also been a beneficiary and will be amazing until he gets injured again.

Parker had a great fantasy score and crap SC score in week 1. He was middle of the road this week, but it isn't pressing enough that I make a move right now, but he may be one I look to move quictkly to JHF in the coming weeks.

Trac had 48% CBA's down from 81% the week before. He also had a highly uncontested game style against the Roos which doesn't help when he is butchering it. I still feel the signs are positive with that pick, although a Callaghan move may be a great play to get the price rise and ride that wave for the next month or so. I think I'm more inclined to move Ashcroft if I make that trade as they are similarly priced.

Lalor I'm happy to rotate through M8 with the other rookies, turning him into Henderson for the quicker cash gen may be a good move, but I think long term Lalor is the better hold.

Looks like Tsatas has a broken finger. Will miss just the one week but then they have to bye so have to make a choice there

Quote from: arbel on March 24, 2025, 05:41:08 PMLooks like Tsatas has a broken finger. Will miss just the one week but then they have to bye so have to make a choice there

I need to go through my rookies and see who I bring in for him. O'Sullivan is an option, so is Henderson. Hewett may be the better choice to open up a DPP link. Dewar is another that intrigues me, did he end up playing mainly on the wing?

Rookies that are 210k and under based on average

Defenders

Bice - Def - 74
C. O'Sullivan - Def - 68
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55
Prior - Def - 53.5
Worner - Def - 45
Woewodin - 43
Z. Reid - Def - 40.5
Leake - Def - 38.5
Trainor - Def - 37
L. O'Connell - Def - 35
Mullin - Def - 29
Cleary - Def - 25
K Smith - Def - 19

Mids

O'Driscoll - Mid - 93
C. Hall - Mid - 88
T. Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 84
Lindsay - Mid - 82
Ashcroft - Mid - 78
Allan - Mid - 71
Knevitt - Mid - 70
Tsatas - Mid - 64
Henderson - Mid - 63.5
M. Reid - Mid - 62.5
Lalor - Mid - 56.5
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 55
Campo - Mid - 54
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 53.5
Hastie - Mid - 53
Moraes - Mid - 52
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 48
O'Sullivan - Mid - 46.5
Erasmus - Mid/Fwd - 41
Sharp - Mid - 40
Hanily - Mid - 37.3
Draper - Mid - 23.5
Sheldrick - Mid - 23
Langford - Mid - 18

Rucks

Fort - Ruck - 76
Keefe - Ruck - 65.5
Boyd - Ruck - 63
Reidy - Ruck - 34
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 26.5


Forwards

Read - Fwd - 100
Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 84
Rogers - Fwd - 79
Hamling - Fwd - 72.5
Pink - Fwd - 64
Hansen Jr. - Fwd - 63
McLachlan - 62
Lynch - Fwd - 61
Motlop - Fwd - 60.5
A Johnson - Fwd - 60
Warner - Fwd - 59.3
Dewar - Fwd - 55.5
Davidson - Fwd - 55.5
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 55
Kostanty - Fwd - 55
Curtain - Fwd - 54
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 53.5
Stone - Fwd - 53
SPP - Fwd - 50.5
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 62
T. Edwards - Fwd - 48
Berry - Fwd - 47
Armstrong - Fwd - 43.5
Erasmus - Fwd - 41
Keeler - Fwd - 41
Collard - Fwd - 39
McInnes - Fwd - 36 - ACL out for season
Spargo - Fwd - 33
Gruzewski - Fwd - 31
Green - Fwd - 30.5
Fawcett - Fwd - 30
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 26.5
Dolan - Fwd - 21.5
Jefferson - Fwd - 20.5
Jones - Fwd - 17
Menzie - Fwd - 4

Assessing based on averages over 2 rounds who the must have options are.

Defenders - Bice, O'Sullivan, Prior

Mids - O'Driscoll, Ashcroft, Lindsay, Knevitt, Henderson, Reid (Clohesy and Hall on bubble next week)

Rucks - Boyd or rolling donut

Forwards - Lucky dip? Most of the high scoring options are on the bubble next week. Hansen Jr. Motlop, Dewar, Davidson and Hewett? Curtain and SPP have good round 2 scores for cash gen purposes.

Next week will have potential options, I know many have already pencilled in Bice but there could be some forwards emerging.

I think I'm okay with my structure the more I look at it.

Down back I'm batting 5 deep with Prior at D6 which is avoiding the disaster rookie scores. Bice comes in and that line looks pretty strong.

I went light up forward with no JHF giving me Macrae at F1, the only downside is not having a DPP option currently out of Warner, Davidson, Stone, Lynch and SPP. That has one sitting in my flex which isn't ideal.  JHF has been poor to start the year and I feel like I'm not too far behind the Rankine crew when I account for my stronger back line and dodging the Trainor/Reid scores.

Midfield I'll have some cash on the bench with the inability to get one of those guys into the flex, although I should have all the main rookies. I just have the Ashcroft/Trac question mark which could make or break me in the coming weeks

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 24, 2025, 05:49:49 PM

Quote from: arbel on March 24, 2025, 05:41:08 PMLooks like Tsatas has a broken finger. Will miss just the one week but then they have to bye so have to make a choice there

I need to go through my rookies and see who I bring in for him. O'Sullivan is an option, so is Henderson. Hewett may be the better choice to open up a DPP link. Dewar is another that intrigues me, did he end up playing mainly on the wing?

He did play on the wing, took a few kick ins and also some goals. That wing role was Hutchinson who has sore hammy so he might hold that spot for a bit

Quote from: arbel on March 25, 2025, 01:03:46 PMHe did play on the wing, took a few kick ins and also some goals. That wing role was Hutchinson who has sore hammy so he might hold that spot for a bit

I saw that when Hutchinson injured himself that they expected Dewar to replace him. When he kicked a couple I wasn't sure if he was playing closer to goal, but hitting the scoreboard from the midfield is a nice way to hold the spot. Hutchinson is still 2-3 weeks away so Dewar presents value.

So just looking at my trades and BE's again. A few options to consider.

O'Sullivan/Tsatas to Lindsay is locked

I could also do the following

The other one of O'Sullivan/Tsatas to Henderson/Hewett (thinking Hewett and the DPP might be handy but scoring has been trash)

Paton to Bowey

It sets up Prior to Bice next week and my worst performing player to bubble rookie for cash


I'm slightly warming to the idea of holding O'Sullivan this week since he has a BE of 19. Unless he is sub, I'd expect he hits it and some cash is better than no cash.

My other problem players and their BE's

Ryan - 192
Meek - 140
Trac - 136
Ashcroft - 71

Even with the cooked BE, I think holding Ryan is the right choice.

I am thinking of biting the bullet and turning Meek into Xerri. Fixes something early and Meek could lose more cash after scoring 109 against the Giants last year. My gut said that Xerri will be a trap, but he has destroyed the 1st two weeks and resolving that seems like a move to make now.

The other potential moves would be to turn Trac into one of Libba, Rozee or Callaghan. Callaghan gives me some cash to play with which is huge, but Callaghan could be a two week wonder and bust as the Giants get more guys back. Rozee could see his scores drop when Butters returns, same goes for Libba when Bont comes back, but Libba is the one I feel has the safest floor barring another concussion and I originally had him in my side before bringing in a healthy Trac (back fired so far)

Last option is I dump Ashcroft even though he scored pretty well and then bring in Callaghan as that's the risky keeper/cash gen pick anyway and Callaghan has been better than Ashcroft on that front.

TLDNR

Option 1

Tsatas, O'Sullivan and Paton to Henderson/Hewett, Lindsay and Bowey

Option 2

Tsatas and O'Sullivan to Henderson and Lindsay plus one of Meek/Trac/Ashcroft to Xerri/Libba/Rozze/Callaghan (leaning on the Meek to Xerri move)

Option 3

O'Sullivan/Tsatas (probably Tsatas and give O'Sullivan one more week) to Lindsay and two of Meek/Trac/Ashcroft to Xerri/Libba/Rozee/Callaghan

One more I just realised I could do

Option 4

Tsatas to Lindsay
O'Sullivan to Henderson
Parker to Dale/Nas/Dawson/Rozee/Callaghan/Rankine or Bowey and a ton of cash (about 215k)

Hard to pick a best combo but I like the trades in this order.

1. Tsatas to Lindsay

2. O'Sullivan to Henderson (valuable cash)

3. Parker OR Paton to Bowey/Dale. I think the defender is the one you want fist. (this makes the fwd line look average, but if we get Levi and Henderson fwd in round 5 which is pretty certain I'm ok with it, and did it)

4. Meek to Xerri (luxury move though)

5. Trac to Callaghan/Rozee (Rozee scored fine with butters last half of last season) Libba good also just concussion worries me but it doesn't seem to be worrying him.

Trac probably better in the end than Will but I am not sure he gets to top 10 mids and if not probably cut him for more cash now and there is more potential for Will to make cash in time.

*Edit: And after going to all the effort to list them it's your Option 4 OR 1 :)

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 27, 2025, 08:03:27 AMHard to pick a best combo but I like the trades in this order.

1. Tsatas to Lindsay

2. O'Sullivan to Henderson (valuable cash)

3. Parker OR Paton to Bowey/Dale. I think the defender is the one you want fist. (this makes the fwd line look average, but if we get Levi and Henderson fwd in round 5 which is pretty certain I'm ok with it, and did it)

4. Meek to Xerri (luxury move though)

5. Trac to Callaghan/Rozee (Rozee scored fine with butters last half of last season) Libba good also just concussion worries me but it doesn't seem to be worrying him.

Trac probably better in the end than Will but I am not sure he gets to top 10 mids and if not probably cut him for more cash now and there is more potential for Will to make cash in time.

*Edit: And after going to all the effort to list them it's your Option 4 OR 1 :)

Rucks should be your priority, stitch Xerri up now before he becomes the 700k man.

Don't stress about Trac this week because he won't lose oodles of cash, next week both Neale & Daicos will be around 600k, easy fix and something I'm also planning.

Someone made a good point, if Trac plays the same role the next couple of weeks he will get forward status which is worth holding on for

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2025, 01:37:58 PMSomeone made a good point, if Trac plays the same role the next couple of weeks he will get forward status which is worth holding on for

That's a good point, but I've also heard this one before and it never happens.

Quote from: Bully on March 27, 2025, 02:49:41 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2025, 01:37:58 PMSomeone made a good point, if Trac plays the same role the next couple of weeks he will get forward status which is worth holding on for

That's a good point, but I've also heard this one before and it never happens.

Trac is currently 26.8% fwd , he needs to get to 35% average for all games FWD in two more games

Ended up going with the following

Tsatas to Lindsay
Meek to Xerri
Parker to Bowey

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2025, 07:42:33 PMEnded up going with the following

Tsatas to Lindsay
Meek to Xerri
Parker to Bowey

Those are good trades, there's also a cut price Stewart coming up so you have options in defence.

Exactly my thinking. Sideways Bowey to Stewart in 3 weeks and happy days

I'm thinking Bice and Moreas my two ins next week

Quote from: Bully on March 27, 2025, 08:40:05 PM

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 27, 2025, 07:42:33 PMEnded up going with the following

Tsatas to Lindsay
Meek to Xerri
Parker to Bowey

Those are good trades, there's also a cut price Stewart coming up so you have options in defence.

Yeah good trades.

Think they are good moves ... yeah Bice and Moraes have to be the 2 coming in next week

Quote from: arbel on March 27, 2025, 11:42:06 PMThink they are good moves ... yeah Bice and Moraes have to be the 2 coming in next week

Hall & Flynn also might be part of the conversation, some interesting decisions coming up.

Quote from: Bully on March 28, 2025, 08:59:09 AM

Quote from: arbel on March 27, 2025, 11:42:06 PMThink they are good moves ... yeah Bice and Moraes have to be the 2 coming in next week

Hall & Flynn also might be part of the conversation, some interesting decisions coming up.

Yep throw in El Hawli looked really good and Travaglia debuts this week...

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 28, 2025, 09:43:04 AM

Quote from: Bully on March 28, 2025, 08:59:09 AM

Quote from: arbel on March 27, 2025, 11:42:06 PMThink they are good moves ... yeah Bice and Moraes have to be the 2 coming in next week

Hall & Flynn also might be part of the conversation, some interesting decisions coming up.

Yep throw in El Hawli looked really good and Travaglia debuts this week...

Those will be in 2-3 weeks, but the BE's for Hall, Moraes, Flynn & Bice will all be in negative territory. I feel this week will be a make or break week, need to choose wisely.

So what happened to Lindsay?

Knee injury in 2nd minute. So he may be out for a while.

Damn! That's rough. Maybe Lindsay to Bice next week

Chris Scott destroying SC teams

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2025, 07:00:54 PMChris Scott destroying SC teams

The Knevitt sub has destroyed my week, wish I knew, could have been Ashcroft and not me stupidly trading Trainor. Feel gutted about that.

My team is cooked. Neale is cactus again

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2025, 09:54:41 PMMy team is cooked. Neale is cactus again

Should have got rid of him after the first pathetic outing, won't make the same mistake twice. Daicos the obvious choice, but a decent rookie will be a big upgrade on him.

Libba the other option. It all comes down to a tag right now. Windhager in round 7 looks like the next real heavy one

I broke Xerri. Meek scored 118, Xerri injured. Far out

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 30, 2025, 03:34:24 PMI broke Xerri. Meek scored 118, Xerri injured. Far out

Think Xerri is fine injury wise, and he scored pretty bad against the good rucks last year also. He just murders the average and bad ruckmen. Think it was the right call maybe just a week early, who knows. Everything you do in SC backfires.

News on Lindsay at least is positive. And F O'Sullivan was much better. Hewett and Knevitt being the sub very annoying.

Round 3

Score: 1933
Rank: 28,587
Round Rank:  25,203
Cash: $18,600

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Good: Zorko, Holmes, Bowey, Prior, Trainor, Ashcroft, NOD, TDK, Macrae, Daniel, Davidson
Pass: Smith
Bad: Ryan, Sheezel, Trac, Oliver, Xerri
Ugly: Neale, L. Ashcroft, O'Sullivan, Lindsay, Knevitt, Lalor, SPP, Lynch, Stone

This was a chaotic week, rookies injured or made the sub, premium players disappointing and between all the chaos I think I came out of it with an okay score. It feels like I have a mountain of problems, but it also feels like I'm not alone.

My trades were hit and miss. Parker scored okay again, but I backed Bowey to make more money at a quicker rate and I think I nailed it. Tsatas to Lindsay was a complete waste with the injury. Meek ended up outscoring Xerri and I should have just started Marshall in the end.

Not having Libba after being so high on him is really hurting when he scores 120 every week, but ah well.

Current worries in my side

Sheezel - playing forward and not impacting games enough has seen a bunch of worrying mediocre scores. He was moved behind the ball later and started racking it up.

Ryan - Every time I own him he is a disaster. I am having flashbacks, the one season I started him he averaged 80 odd until I traded him and then he went on to average 105 the rest of the season. I know as soon as I trade he'll bust out 150's every week, but not owning Sinclair is a killer right now.

Neale - Also having flashbacks to 2021 when I started him and he averaged 99 and was sandwiched between two 120+ seasons. The tag has destroyed him, I think the Tigers will send McIntosh to him and maybe he has another stinker.

Trac - 15 CBA's, 23 disposals at 65% with 5 clangers is not good. Melbourne look cooked, but at the same time, he is having bad games and scoring 80 which is a good sign. Again, not owning Libba hurts me right now.

Rookies are all volatile, but cash gen looks to have stalled for a lot of them. It would also be nice to see Lynch not try and belt someone

Trades

Bice and Moraes for ??? and ???

This will likely be based on how long Lindsay is out and the teams

Solid round. Not sure I'd worry about Bice given Prior and Trainor are on your bench. Moraes for any of the 6 rooks you have that are underwhelming in the midfield, could pretty much throw a dart...

I'd lean towards campo if still out or one of the expensive guys for a cash grab. Obviously Lindsay if out for a stretch, but if Lalor and O Sullivan are not making cash on your bench holding Lindsay may be the play.

That is a solid round. It's best 18 still this week so could wait on Lindsay if others fixes are needed

Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 31, 2025, 08:48:43 AMSolid round. Not sure I'd worry about Bice given Prior and Trainor are on your bench. Moraes for any of the 6 rooks you have that are underwhelming in the midfield, could pretty much throw a dart...

I'd lean towards campo if still out or one of the expensive guys for a cash grab. Obviously Lindsay if out for a stretch, but if Lalor and O Sullivan are not making cash on your bench holding Lindsay may be the play.

I have the option of playing Holmes in the midfield and I feel like right now Bice is the better scoring option than O'Sullivan/Lalor.

Quote from: arbel on March 31, 2025, 02:24:11 PMThat is a solid round. It's best 18 still this week so could wait on Lindsay if others fixes are needed

Exactly, happy to sit for a couple weeks because he has looked like the best rookie scoring and will kick start the cash gen again pretty quickly. If it is a 4 to 6 week injury, Langford is also one to consider. He played a lot in the middle and scored an 80 odd.

Rookie watch now that the injury list has come out. I'll try and attach BE after the average if they have played 2+ games. 255k and under players

Defenders

Travaglia - Def/Mid - 83
Bice - Def - 74 - -81
C. O'Sullivan - Def - 71 - -44
Prior - Def - 61.7 - -12
Z. Reid - Def - 56.3 - -27
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -31
Trainor - Def - 54.7 - -21
Worner - Def - 49.5 - 11
Logue - Def - 45
Mullin - Def - 45 - 29
Woewodin - Def - 43
Leake - Def - 38.5 - -6
Archer - Def - 35
Cordy - Def - 31
Cleary - Def - 25
L. O'Connell - Def - 24.3 - 27
K Smith - Def - 21 -
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 16

Sinn is just above these guys with an average of 73.7 and now priced at 267k with a BE of -4

Mids

C. Hall - Mid - 88
Travaglia - Def/Mid - 83
M. Reid - Mid - 77  - -63
Moraes - Mid - 73 - -79
Allan - Mid - 71
T. Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 71 - -71
Long - Mid - 66.7 - -28
Ashcroft - Mid - 64 - 24
Tsatas - Mid - 64 - -15
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 64 - -15
Erasmus - Mid/Fwd - 60.5 - -50
Lindsay - Mid - 57.7 - 28
Henderson - Mid - 56.7 - -27
Campo - Mid - 54 - -41
Knevitt - Mid - 53.3 - 30
Lalor - Mid - 52.7 - 47
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 52.7 - 11
Langford - Mid - 52.5 - 2
Sharp - Mid - 49.3 - 11
Gallagher - Mid - 47 - 56
O'Sullivan - Mid - 45.7 - 37
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 8
Clark - Mid - 41.3 - 31
Hanily - Mid - 37.3 - -2
Hastie - Mid - 37 - -3
Draper - Mid - 32 - 39
Sheldrick - Mid - 23 - 50
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 16
Cochrane - Mid - 9

O'Driscoll is priced at 274k and is averaging 96.7 (-36 BE) so he has priced himself out. Kamdyn McIntosh is another averaging 79.7 (-4 BE) and priced at 280k.

Rucks

Fort - Ruck - 71.5 - -30
Boyd - Ruck - 63
Keefe - Ruck - 59.3 - -6
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 46.3 - -6
Reidy - Ruck - 34

Forwards

Dudley - Fwd - 82
Davidson - Fwd - 80 - -88
Read - Fwd - 73.5 - -47
Hamling - Fwd - 72.5 - -50
Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 71 - -71
Curtain - Fwd - 66 - -51
Pink - Fwd - 65 - -6
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 64 - -15
McLachlan - 62
Motlop - Fwd - 61.7 - -13
Erasmus - Fwd - 60.5 - -50
Warner - Fwd - 59.3 - -15
Hutchinson - Fwd - 58
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -31
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 52.7 - 11
Dewar - Fwd - 52.3 - -16
Voss - Fwd - 52 - 29
Lynch - Fwd - 51.5 - 6
Stone - Fwd - 50.7 - 4
Kostanty - Fwd - 50.3 - 15
Wicks - Fwd - 50 - 79
Rogers - Fwd - 50 - 25
SPP - Fwd - 49.7 - -13
Hansen Jr. - Fwd - 48.3 - 37
Walter - Fwd - 47
Collard - Fwd - 47 - -23
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 46.3 - -6
A Johnson - Fwd - 45.5 - -24
Brockman - Fwd - 44.7 - 45
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 8
Cadman - Fwd - 43.7 - 36
Berry - Fwd - 42.7 - 5
Turner - Fwd - 42
Bauer - Fwd - 44 - 49
Keeler - Fwd - 40 - -9
Green - Fwd - 36.7 - 19
McInnes - Fwd - 36 - ACL out for season
Sonsie - Fwd - 34 - 58
Menzie - Fwd - 33.5 - 41
Spargo - Fwd - 33
Gruzewski - Fwd - 31 - 9
Fawcett - Fwd - 30
N. Long - Fwd - 29.7 - 53
F. Evans - Fwd - 29.5 - 79
T. Edwards - Fwd - 29 - ACL out for season
Armstrong - Fwd - 28 - 26
Dolan - Fwd - 21 - 29
Jefferson - Fwd - 20.5 - 30
Jones - Fwd - 17 - 56
Breust - Fwd - 5

Humphrey is averaging 107.5 (-55 BE) priced at 270k and Maric is priced at 265k with a 76 (-37 BE) average. They're the two just above the 250k threshold.

I know my two trades are going to be Moraes and Bice for my team, it's just a matter of who do I trade out. I think a lot will change once teams drop

Lynch I am holding for a week, although I think he will score crap and I'll piss him off next week.

I'm happy to be more patient with Lalor and wait at least one more week. I will also hold Lindsay.

I have no idea who I trade out at this point. Probably Paton and maybe Campo or O'Sullivan.

I probably won't boost to grab Maric/Humphrey although Erasmus is tempting to open up another DPP link. I'm also keeping my questionable premiums, although turning Ryan into Sinclair is tempting

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 03, 2025, 04:19:42 AMI probably won't boost to grab Maric/Humphrey although Erasmus is tempting to open up another DPP link. I'm also keeping my questionable premiums, although turning Ryan into Sinclair is tempting

I dropped Ryan for Zorko.. You may have already, but I'd go Sinclair, Zorko or Houston..

Quote from: Ashmore62 on April 03, 2025, 05:14:26 PMI dropped Ryan for Zorko.. You may have already, but I'd go Sinclair, Zorko or Houston..

I started Zorko and lucky I didn't grab Houston. I'd say he has 3+ weeks on the sidelines after the bump to the head (lucky he didn't knock Fogerty out).

I ended up making 2 sideways type trades.

Campo > Moraes
Paton > Bice

I have a lot of dead weight rookies but I'll make some moves next week. Unfortunately cleaning out 2 this week I only have 38k in the bank.

Knevitt and Lindsay are both out, Stone is on an extended bench and Paton was an emergency as well. I think I'm okay holding a bunch of the underperformers this week and look to make a move next week.

Oh, and Xerri is in doubt with the hamstring. Didn't train much all week which is also fun. I feel like I'm going in circles with a lot of my trades at the moment, so I'll grab the two money makers this week, hold off and assess next week

Think we are all 2 steps forward and one step back. Think we have sorted and injuries and team selections throw a spanner in the works.

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 03, 2025, 04:19:42 AMI know my two trades are going to be Moraes and Bice for my team, it's just a matter of who do I trade out. I think a lot will change once teams drop

Lynch I am holding for a week, although I think he will score crap and I'll piss him off next week.

I'm happy to be more patient with Lalor and wait at least one more week. I will also hold Lindsay.

I have no idea who I trade out at this point. Probably Paton and maybe Campo or O'Sullivan.

I probably won't boost to grab Maric/Humphrey although Erasmus is tempting to open up another DPP link. I'm also keeping my questionable premiums, although turning Ryan into Sinclair is tempting

Erasmus got dropped ... thought he might get more of a run at it

Yeah, that's not ideal. Better dropped than sub

Not that it changes much but F O'Sullivan is out with sickness also.

I still chose to trade Knevitt (managed), over him. Cats selections and late outs are a rollercoaster I'm more than happy to get off.

Probably as unsettled a line up of rooks there has ever been, in out dropped sub injured rested.... so many!

Quote from: Colliwobblers on April 04, 2025, 05:59:37 PMNot that it changes much but F O'Sullivan is out with sickness also.

I still chose to trade Knevitt (managed), over him. Cats selections and late outs are a rollercoaster I'm more than happy to get off.

Probably as unsettled a line up of rooks there has ever been, in out dropped sub injured rested.... so many!

Oh Really? That sucks

I'm holding both as options for Tsatas and Travaglia next week.

Blicavs a late out, Stanley in. Scott mentioned Stanley could play back

Yeah just saw that. Has Stanley lined up as first ruck at the moment. Doesn't bode well for SDK

I think I had some pretty good holds this week. I kept Neale, Sheezel and Lalor and they all went huge. I passed on Humphrey and brought in Bice and Moraes. Bice looks good, he could sit at D6 for a while.

My downside was I held Lynch even though I knew he would suck. It's going to be tricky to trade him out in the coming weeks because my DPP link is between midfield and the backs now. Not having O'Sullivan is the other one that hurts.

Warner also sucked pretty bad so my F6 is a little problematic. With no forward rookies on the horizon I'll need to find a prem quickly or just hold out for DPP players.

Oh, I am also pretty happy with Bowey, but Parker would have been great to have this week

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 06, 2025, 01:06:48 AMI think I had some pretty good holds this week. I kept Neale, Sheezel and Lalor and they all went huge. I passed on Humphrey and brought in Bice and Moraes. Bice looks good, he could sit at D6 for a while.

My downside was I held Lynch even though I knew he would suck. It's going to be tricky to trade him out in the coming weeks because my DPP link is between midfield and the backs now. Not having O'Sullivan is the other one that hurts.

Warner also sucked pretty bad so my F6 is a little problematic. With no forward rookies on the horizon I'll need to find a prem quickly or just hold out for DPP players.

Oh, I am also pretty happy with Bowey, but Parker would have been great to have this week

I dumped Sheezel and now I'm having a horrible week, but dumping Gawn wasn't the answer either. I have a plan however, not all is lost as Sheezel missed his BE and will be 100k difference on Roberts, might have to do a boomerang trade.

The DPP changes happen next week right?

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 07, 2025, 04:17:51 PMThe DPP changes happen next week right?

Yes, I think before round 6 commences.

Quote from: Bully on April 07, 2025, 04:42:10 PMYes, I think before round 6 commences.

Sweet, this will help me decide on some trades this week

Round 4

Score: 2002
Rank: 17,490
Round Rank: 18,478
Cash: $38,500

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Good: Sheezel, Ryan, Bice, Trainor, Neale, W. Ashcroft, L. Ashcroft, Lalor, Smith, Daniel, SPP
Pass: Zorko, Bowey, Oliver, Macrae
Bad: Roberts, Trac, Xerri, TDK, Davidson
Ugly: NOD, Moraes, Lynch, Warner, Stone, Holmes

It was an interesting week. I felt I scored okay, yet it seemed pretty mediocre when looking at my weekly overall. I think I held the right guys in Lalor, Neale, Ryan and Sheezel.

Trac was a hold with anticipation of him getting forward status, although it ended up being an okay but not spectacular week and a nice drop in price. He may have been one I should have moved on in hindsight.

Lynch I knew would struggle against the Lions but I held him anyway. He ended up turning a disaster into an ugly score, however he was the right play ahead of Warner and Stone who both managed to be worse.

I felt like I have made some poor early trades which is another reason I ended up sticking with those guys this week. I feel like I've just been shifting guys sideways, haven't banked anything and haven't significantly improved my team. A reset is needed with 32 trades, 3 boosts and maybe only 10 genuine keepers (maybe 11 if Trac gets forward status).

Just a recap on my trades so far and where I felt I've gone wrong

Round 2

Perryman > Holmes
Flynn > Trainor
Leake > Warner

I think I traded the right players out here (although Perryman had a good game on the weekend), but I should have gone with Sinclair and O'Sullivan who I tossed up but went chasing the first price rise from Warner.

Round 3

Meek > Xerri
Parker > Bowey
Tsatas > Lindsay

Bowey was a great pick, but Parker looks to have kicked off his cash gen this week. Maybe another option out instead like Trac would have been the better play. Meek to Xerri was a flop, Xerri injured himself last round and struggled this week. Meek had a great week before the bye and may have been better off holding to trade to someone else instead. Tsatas to Lindsay was unfortunate, one injured player for another

Round 4

Paton > Bice
Campo > Moraes

I think both trades were okay. Bice was a must have and paid off, Moraes had a bad week and could be on the fringe so I'm thinking that could have been a 50k price rise and then a sub risk to stall growth. Maybe Hamling was a better long term pick.

This week is a bit of wait and see. Hall looks to be the pick of the rookies but he has shaky JS. Travaglia has DPP which is handy but was sub his debut. Tsatas could be back. There is also Dudley for Freo who is bargain basement as a forward. The unfortunate thing is all the guys I feel need to go are in the forward line which also makes it tricky with a lack of DPP options

Holding Trac not such a terrible move, 42% forward time so it would seem a formality from here.

Quote from: Bully on April 07, 2025, 07:31:45 PMHolding Trac not such a terrible move, 42% forward time so it would seem a formality from here.

Yup, seems like it's pretty much a guarantee. The downside is the lost dollars, but I would back him being a top 6 forward come the end of the season.

Trades get tricky as you say with little DPP.  What is your intention with FOS not named ;ast week B/E of 38 so limited cash generation. As a suggestion move Holmes back to mids and then trade into Flex.

If O'Sullivan and Knevitt are out again I'm thinking Hall and Tsatas if both are named. It also looks like Lindsay is a chance this week which is a bonus

NOD now throwing  spanner in the works.

"Ryan Daniels (@FootyRhino) on X
Nathan O'Driscoll will miss this week's clash with Richmond.

@freodockers still working through the extent of the ankle injury but is expected to miss multiple weeks."

Do not like the last multiple weeks.

So maybe O'Sullivan to Hall and then NOD to anyone you can afford. Alternately if you have boosts could go Stone to Dudley and if Maths correct you should have $500ktrading NOD.

This has definitely been an unfavourable year in Supercoach. Feel all rookies have had ups and down with the exception of a couple and 'premos' have had issues. I'd wait on teams before pulling triggers. If Tsatas can get straight back in think he is a good pick. Hall I think should get games, he is a good type. Heard rumours that waterman, ryan and hutchinson could be back so don't know if that means he gets dropped

Quote from: arbel on April 08, 2025, 03:20:23 PMThis has definitely been an unfavourable year in Supercoach. Feel all rookies have had ups and down with the exception of a couple and 'premos' have had issues. I'd wait on teams before pulling triggers. If Tsatas can get straight back in think he is a good pick. Hall I think should get games, he is a good type. Heard rumours that waterman, ryan and hutchinson could be back so don't know if that means he gets dropped

Hall needs 3 price rises, that's doable I think.

Quote from: Ringo on April 08, 2025, 01:50:59 PMNOD now throwing  spanner in the works.

"Ryan Daniels (@FootyRhino) on X
Nathan O'Driscoll will miss this week's clash with Richmond.

@freodockers still working through the extent of the ankle injury but is expected to miss multiple weeks."

Do not like the last multiple weeks.

So maybe O'Sullivan to Hall and then NOD to anyone you can afford. Alternately if you have boosts could go Stone to Dudley and if Maths correct you should have $500ktrading NOD.

Can't say I'm surprised, he looked pretty propoy. It's a 4-6 week injury, he has to go. Day has also injured his navicular, so I'm lucky to dodge that bullet.  Rankine is also expected to miss a week with the calf, so that's another issue people will have this week. Tsatas is due back and Caldwell is out 4 weeks, he is now a lock trade in.

Quote from: arbel on April 08, 2025, 03:20:23 PMThis has definitely been an unfavourable year in Supercoach. Feel all rookies have had ups and down with the exception of a couple and 'premos' have had issues. I'd wait on teams before pulling triggers. If Tsatas can get straight back in think he is a good pick. Hall I think should get games, he is a good type. Heard rumours that waterman, ryan and hutchinson could be back so don't know if that means he gets dropped

I'd say you're on the money that he will get dropped. He seems one of the first to make his way out of the side. That fringe is always a worry.

Rookie watch, 255k and under players with position, average and BE for guys that have played 2+ games

Defenders

Bice - Def - 90.7 - -98
Brock - Def - 80
Travaglia - Def/Mid - 67.5 - -32
Prior - Def - 61.7 - -11
Trainor - Def - 61.5 - -51
Logue - Def - 60 -  27
Z. Reid - Def - 56.3 - -26
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -30
Mullin - Def - 51 - -6
Woewodin - Def - 43
Worner - Def - 42.3 - 33
Leake - Def - 38.5 - -5
Archer - Def - 35
Cordy - Def - 31
Whitlock - Def/Fwd - 29
Hardeman - Def - 26
Cleary - Def - 25
L. O'Connell - Def - 24.3 - 27
K Smith - Def - 21.3 - 25
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 16

O'Sullivan is priced at 268k now and averaging 79 with a BE of -19

Mids

C. Hall - Mid - 78 - -78
Allan - Mid - 71
Ashcroft - Mid - 69.8 - 26
Lalor - Mid - 67.5 - -8
Travaglia - Def/Mid - 67.5 - -32
Tsatas - Mid - 64 - -13
T. Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 63 - -2
Moraes - Mid - 63 - -37
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 62 - -19
Erasmus - Mid/Fwd - 60.5 - -49
Lindsay - Mid - 57.7 - 29
Campo - Mid - 54 - -40
Knevitt - Mid - 53.3 - 31
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 52.7 - 12
Gross - Mid - 51
Henderson - Mid - 50.5 - 29
Langford - Mid - 48 - -8
Lord - Mid - 46 - 66
O'Sullivan - Mid - 45.7 - 38
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 9
Baker - Mid - 43.3 - 42
Gallagher - Mid - 43 - 74
Sharp - Mid - 42.5 - 35
Hanily - Mid - 42.3 - 4
Clark - Mid - 41.3 - 33
Draper - Mid - 38 - 9
Hastie - Mid - 37.3 - 23
Stephens - Mid - 37 - 46
O'Halloran - Mid/Fwd - 36.5 - 90
Sheldrick - Mid - 22.3 - 54
Davis - Mid/Fwd - 22
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 16
Cochrane - Mid - 9

Murphy Reid has moved out of this list now priced at 258k with a 76 average and a -24 BE

Rucks

Fort - Ruck - 71.5 - -29
Boyd - Ruck - 63
Keefe - Ruck - 59.3 - -4
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 50 - -40
Reidy - Ruck - 34

Forwards

Lord - Fwd - 85
Davidson - Fwd - 73.5 - -32
Hamling - Fwd - 66.3 - 0
Cleary - Fwd - 66
Curtain - Fwd - 65.8 - -2
Pink - Fwd - 65 - -5
Dudley - Fwd - 64 - -69
Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 63 - -2
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 62 - -19
Erasmus - Fwd - 60.5 - - -49
Read - Fwd - 59 - 44
Walter - Fwd - 59 - -4
Collard - Fwd - 58.3 - -37
Hutchinson - Fwd - 58
Turner - Fwd - 57 - 27
SPP - Fwd - 55.8 - 20
Motlop - Fwd - 55.5 - 45
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -30
Wicks - Fwd - 53.5 - 38
Warner - Fwd - 53.3 - 36
Voss - Fwd - 53 - 23
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 52.7 - 12
Kostanty - Fwd - 52 - 6
Dewar - Fwd - 51.8 - 36
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 50 - -40
Lynch - Fwd - 46.7 - 39
Cadman - Fwd - 46.5 - 47
A Johnson - Fwd - 45.5 - -23
Stone - Fwd - 45.3 - 24
Green - Fwd - 44 - 7
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 9
Brockman - Fwd - 42.2 - 55
Allen - Fwd - 42 - 69
Berry - Fwd - 40.5 - 35
Rogers - Fwd - 40.3 - 83
Hansen Jr. - Fwd - 40.3 - 71
O'Halloran - Mid/Fwd - 36.5 - 90
McInnes - Fwd - 36 - ACL out for season
McLachlan - Fwd - 35 - 2
Menzie - Fwd - 33.5 - 43
Keeler - Fwd - 32.7 - 22
Bauer - Fwd - 31.5 - 69
Gruzewski - Fwd - 31 - 10
Armstrong - Fwd - 30.5 - 40
Fawcett - Fwd - 30
Sonsie - Fwd - 29.7 - 59
F. Evans - Fwd - 29.5 - 81
Whitlock - Def/Fwd - 29
T. Edwards - Fwd - 29 - ACL out for season
W. White - Fwd - 29
N. Long - Fwd - 23.8 - 79
Dolan - Fwd - 22.3 - 20
Davis - Mid/Fwd - 22
Jefferson - Fwd - 20.5 - 31
Jones - Fwd - 17 - 56
Spargo - Fwd - 15.5 - 50
Breust - Fwd - 5
Moir - Fwd - 1

Knevitt in but named on the bench. Maybe he is a sub risk

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 09, 2025, 07:32:30 PMKnevitt in but named on the bench. Maybe he is a sub risk

Can't think of a better sub in a big game like this will be. Still good he's back could go big if he gets a quarter maybe more with game on the line. You wouldn't start him as sub but could get decent cash gen.

I'm not sure if anyone still plays RDT, my team is actually doing pretty well and I posted it over on that board. I'm trying to decide my trades for the week

Sunday teams are a bit of a cluster F. Some of the guys named on the extended bench have swung on field (Travaglia for one) and it looks like Boyd is now an emergency for the Saints as well.

I don't know if Travaglia is worth jumping on at his price tag. First game he played he scored 83 and had a 52 of 9 touches last week which is quite high for not many possessions. However he is a sub risk and almost 180k.

Dudley is also a vest risk with Switkowski back. Archer Reid has already had a couple of price rises and I don't like the chances of him scoring well this weekend. There isn't much else in the rookie stakes.

If I do a Warner to Dudley trade, it will give me the cash to turn Lynch into JHF. Otherwise I can hold off, just do the one trade so far and assess on Stone to Dudley if Dudley isn't named the sub. That gives me some cash to attack next week with the new DPP release

Dot point version

1. NOD, Warner and Lynch to Hall, Dudley and JHF
2. NOD to Hall
3. NOD and Stone to Hall and Dudley pending subs

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 11, 2025, 06:24:29 PMDot point version

1. NOD, Warner and Lynch to Hall, Dudley and JHF
2. NOD to Hall
3. NOD and Stone to Hall and Dudley pending subs

I like version 1, really good time to jump on JHF, I'm considering next week.

I feel like it's the best version on paper as well. Gets a crap score off field from Lynch/Warner/Stone and gives me a keeper. A productive use of my trades for once

I should have kept Warner

Round 5

Score: 2141
Rank: 19,188
Round Rank: 42,253
Cash: $33,200

Trades

NOD > Hall
Warner > Dudley
Lynch > JHF

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Good: Bice, Trainor, Holmes, W. Ashcroft, L. Ashcroft, TDK, JHF, Smith, Daniel, SPP
Pass: Sheezel, Bowey, O'Sullivan
Bad: Zorko, Roberts, Prior, Neale, Trac, Oliver, Knevitt, Hall, Xerri, Macrae, Lindsay
Ugly: Ryan, Moraes, Stone, Dudley

What an awful week, I have a few major problems and I don't know if I try and fix them or just ride them out. The two obvious issues are Ryan and Neale. Ryan compounded the issue by being subbed off in the 3rd quarter.

Xerri has been a disaster since I traded him in, I was better off sticking with Meek but I panicked after his 2 early great scores and bit the bullet.

Dudley was a bit of a flop since he was the sub. My gut said he would be, but to get JHF using the 3 'rookies' I had to make that move. Lynch ended up getting subbed anyway so it was a solid trade in the end.

I'm going to have a look at BE's before I look at trades, but Luke Ryan is one I think I have to move out. Gross and Cleary are the two standout rookies this round as well. I am thinking I use my 2nd last boost to get it done

Well, that's three in a row for Trainor so he's fairly safe to field. I'm looking to get on Ryan at some point, didn't realize he was subbed, he might be carrying something?

Hopefully there is an injury and at least then the decision is taken out of your hands. Xerri is definitely carrying an injury.

Probably Ryan to Nick with a rookie downgrade.

Lindasy 64, Davidson 60, Knevitt 43, the highest BE's you have

I'm just glad to be getting the Trainor cash gen, even if I haven't had him on the field through any of these scores haha.

So I have a bad history owning both Ryan and Neale. I traded Ryan into my team in 2021 after he was averaging 106 for him to average 87. I then started him in 2022 and he averaged a whopping 89. He averaged 100 the rest of the way and 115 over the last 8 including the two finals. He was then a beast in 2023 and 2024 and awful again now that I own him.

Last time I remember owning Neale was 2021 when he also had a problem with the tag and averaged 99.8 for the season. He averaged 122.8, 110.4 and 119.9 the next three seasons before averaging 93 this year.

You want a reliable player broken, just get me to own them.

My rookie watch for the week

Rookie watch, 255k and under players with position, average and BE for guys that have played 2+ games

Defenders

Z. Reid - Def - 68.3 - -60
Hamling - Def/Fwd - 60 - 38
Carroll - Def - 60
Prior - Def - 59.8 - 9
Brock - Def - 59.5 - -60
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -30
Travaglia - Def/Mid - 52 - 44
Wicks - Def/Fwd - 51.8 - 37
F. O'Sullivan - Def/Mid - 51.5 - 19
Worner - Def - 51.5 - 20
Draper - Def - 50.6 - 39
Mullin - Def - 46 - 53
Stone - Def/Fwd - 44 - 35
Baker - Def/Mid - 43.4 - 41
Gallagher - Def/Mid - 43 - 74
Cleary - Def - 43 - 17
Woewodin - Def - 43 - 20
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 41.5 - -11
Leake - Def - 38.5 - -5
Archer - Def - 35
Hastie - Def/Mid - 32 - 26
Cordy - Def - 31
Whitlock - Def/Fwd - 29
L. O'Connell - Def - 24.3 - 27
K Smith - Def - 21.3 - 25
Hardeman - Def - 21 - 58

Trainor is priced just out of my 255k threshold with a -7 BE

Mids

C. Hall - Mid - 69.3 - -8
Lalor - Mid/Fwd - 67.5 - -9
Gross - Mid - 66.5 - -65
Tsatas - Mid - 64 - -14
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 62 - 25
Erasmus - Mid/Fwd - 60.5 - -49
Moraes - Mid - 57.8 - 36
C. Warner - Mid/Fwd - 55.6 - 35
Lindsay - Mid - 55.3 - 64
Campo - Mid - 54 - -40
Langford - Mid - 52.8 - 31
T. Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 52.8 - 40
Knevitt - Mid - 52.5 - 43
Travaglia - Def/Mid - 52 - 44
O'Sullivan - Def/Mid - 51.5 - 19
Z. Taylor - Mid/Fwd - 50
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 49 - 15
Dewar - Mid/Fwd - 48.2 - 47
Hanily - Mid/Fwd - 47.8 - -11
Lord - Mid/Fwd - 47 - 20
Stephens - Mid - 46 - 5
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 9
Baker - Def/Mid - 43.3 - 41
Gallagher - Def/Mid - 43 - 74
Henderson - Mid/Fwd - 43 - 55
El-Hawli - Def/Mid - 41.5 - -11
Clark - Mid - 41.3 - 32
Sharp - Mid/Fwd - 40.6 - 70
Hansen Jr. - Mid/Fwd - 40.3 - 71
Draper - Mid/Fwd - 38.6 - 25
Allan - Mid - 38 - 40
Reville - Mid - 37.5 - 75
O'Halloran - Mid/Fwd - 36.5 - 89
Sonsie - Mid/Fwd - 34 - 46
Cochrane - Mid - 32.5 - -6
Hastie - Def/Mid - 32 - 26
Sheldrick - Mid - 31.3 - 11
Davis - Mid/Fwd - 17 - 34
Hynes - Mid - 16

Long is now 280k and while he has had the vest it looks like he will end up a premium cash cow with how good he was last week.

Rucks

Fort - Ruck - 71.5 - -29
Boyd - Ruck - 63
Keefe - Ruck - 59.3 - -5
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 50.2 - 19
Reidy - Ruck - 34

Forwards

Durdin - Fwd - 91
Cleary - Fwd - 73.5 - -73
Lalor - Mid/Fwd - 67.5 - -9
Lord - Fwd -67.5 - -13
Pink - Fwd - 65 - -5
Read - Fwd - 62.8 - 25
Hall - Mid/Fwd - 62 - 25
Erasmus - Fwd - 60.5 - - -49
Hamling - Def/Fwd - 60 - 38
Motlop - Fwd - 57.8 - 48
Walter - Fwd - 57.7 - 3
Turner - Fwd - 57 - 26
Hutchinson - Fwd - 57 - 25
Warner - Mid/Fwd - 55.6 - 35
Paton - Def/Fwd - 55 - -30
Voss - Fwd - 53.5 - 39
Menzie - Fwd - 53 - -33
Clohesy - Mid/Fwd - 52.8 - 40
Wicks - Def/Fwd - 51.8 - 37
Kostanty - Fwd - 51.4 - 9
A. Reid - Fwd/Ruck - 50.2 - 19
Z. Taylor - Mid/Fwd - 50
Kako - Mid/Fwd - 49 - 15
Owies - Fwd - 48.6 - 66
Dudley - Fwd - 48.3 - 19
Dewar - Mid/Fwd - 48.2 - 47
Hanily - Mid/Fwd - 47.8 - -11
Rogers - Fwd - 47.3 - 31
Lord - Mid/Fwd - 47 - 20
Collard - Fwd - 46.8 - 19
A Johnson - Fwd - 45.5 - -23
Green - Fwd - 44.6 - 19
Allen - Fwd - 44.4 - 36
Duursam - Fwd - 44
Stone - Def/Fwd - 44 - 35
Hewett - Mid/Fwd - 44 - 9
Lynch - Fwd - 43.5 - 45
Henderson - Mid/Fwd - 43 - 55
Brockman - Fwd - 42.3 - 54
W. White - Fwd - 41 - -23
Sharp - Mid/Fwd - 40.6 - 70
Hansen Jr. - Mid/Fwd - 40.3 - 71
Draper - Mid/Fwd - 38.6 - 25
O'Halloran - Mid/Fwd - 36.5 - 89
Sonsie - Mid/Fwd - 34 - 46
Berry - Fwd - 33.2 - 57
Keeler - Fwd - 32.7 - 21
Gruzewski - Fwd - 31 - 10
Armstrong - Fwd - 30.5 - 40
Fawcett - Fwd - 30
F. Evans - Fwd - 29.5 - 80
Whitlock - Def/Fwd - 29
Dolan - Fwd - 26.6 - 2
Spargo - Fwd - 25.7 - 36
Bauer - Fwd - 25.4 - 94
McLachlan - Fwd - 25 - 60
Breust - Fwd - 84
N. Long - Fwd - 23.8 - 78
Jefferson - Fwd - 20.5 - 31
Jones - Fwd - 17 - 56
Davis - Mid/Fwd - 17 - 34
McMullin - Fwd - 12
Faull - Fwd - 11
Moir - Fwd - 1

Other random BE's for my side

Ryan - 129
Roberts - 125
Bowey - 90
Bice - -42

L. Ashcroft - -11
Neale - 111

Xerri - 159

Davidson - 60
SPP - -12

Round 6

Score: 2082
Rank: 23,000
Round Rank: 53,654
Cash: $203,700

Trades

Prior > Cleary
Stone > Gross

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Good: Roberts, Bowey, Bice, Neale, L. Ashcroft, Lalor, Xerri, SPP, Davidson
Pass: Trac, JHF, Macrae, Daniel
Bad: Sheezel, Holmes, Oliver, TDK (C),  Smith, Lindsay
Ugly: Zorko, Ryan, Trainor, O'Sullivan, W. Ashcroft, Moraes, Knevitt, Gross, Cleary, Dudley

A crap week compounded by bad trades saw me drop in the rankings. I should have held Prior and not bothered with either of the rookies after what they scored. It's weird how someone can look like a can't miss prospect and then they get hit with a vest or just disappear entirely. These rookies are driving me a little bit nuts and I am just going in circles with no cash gen. I also 100% should have done the Ryan to Butters trade but held off thinking Ryan would 'come good'.

Trades for this week

Trainor > Carroll is on the cards. I am also thinking one of Knevitt/Moraes > Flynn as my flex. I could also do both Knevitt and Moraes and hold Trainor since he seems to be scoring well and it was a vest decision that killed him.

I could also use my second last boost and finally give Ryan the flick to bring in one of Butters/Bont which is also tempting.

I keep looking at my team with a severe lack of cash gen and I'm thinking how in the hell am I going to 1. complete this team and 2. get guys like Butters/Bont/Whitfield in down the track. After using another two trades I have 25 left and my team doesn't look any better. Of my players this is how I'd rank them on current form

Keepers

Sheezel (barely)
Zorko (barely)
Neale (barely)
Holmes
TDK
Xerri
JHF
Trac
Smith
Macrae
Daniel

Not quite premiums

Ashcroft
Roberts
Bowey
Ryan
Oliver

So out of 23 spots I have 11 keepers, 5 not quite keepers and 7 spots to fill.

Some popular rookie BE's

Trainor - 74
Z. Reid - 14
Prior - 15
O'Sullivan (Cats)- 85
O'Sullivan (North) - 36
Stone - 25
Bice - 33
Moraes - 46
Hewett - -8
M. Hall - 38
C. Hall -  -9
Lindsay - 14
Gross - -6
Ashcroft - 12
Lalor - -14
Knevitt - 22
Cleary (Syd) - -11
Kako - 31
Dudley - 41
SPP - -14
Warner - 44
Davidson - 37
El-Hawli - 4

So Knevitt is out and I originally planned on trading Moraes with his 46 BE this week. I'm wondering if it's worth switching him to Knevitt to give myslef some bench coverage? It doesn't help that Gross and Hall are also out

Quote from: Mat0369 on April 26, 2025, 01:35:26 AMSo Knevitt is out and I originally planned on trading Moraes with his 46 BE this week. I'm wondering if it's worth switching him to Knevitt to give myslef some bench coverage? It doesn't help that Gross and Hall are also out

Absolutely, keep anyone who is a warm body. Big cleanout required next week, Moraes is also named onfield so job security looks solid for the time being.

Seemed like the no brainer and this is the second time Knevitt has been a post teams out with an injury

Round 7

Score: 2421
Rank: 20,778
Round Rank: 24,423
Cash: $295,800

Trades

Trainor > Carroll
Knevitt > Flynn

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Good: Sheezel, Zorko, Robert, Bowey, Bice, Neale, Trac, Lindsay, Xerri, TDK, JHF, Smith, SPP, Flynn
Pass: L. Ashcroft
Bad: Carroll, O'Sullivan, W. Ashcroft, Oliver, Moraes, Macrae, Daniel, Davidson
Ugly: Ryan, Holmes, Lalor, Dudley

It was a decent week, but it feels like a decent week doesn't really get me much higher up in the rankings. I have a little bit of cash in the bank to target an upgrade or two. Davidson and Lalor look like the two potential options. I was playing around with something like Warner and Callaghan

Solid week. Warner is a bargain if he's back, if. Sinclair and Merrett have ridiculously high break evens so might be worth having an eye on the next two rounds to grab one.

Ryan must be killing you... but I've traded out three or four mid price/premiums and every single time they have gone huge the week after. Horne, Callaghan, Soligo, Humphry....

Finn levi and Sam and Sam are all about ripe. I'd be inclined to downgrade one and upgrade one to a genuine premium and still have cash in the bank to do the same again next week. If Warner is genuine that's a lot of cash in the bank for next week.

Nice week - I may consider Warner as well but Swans have some biggies to bring back in,

Key rookie BE's

Bice - 38
Z. Reid - 48
Trainor - 86
Carroll - -28
Travaglia - 42
Paton - 17
O'Sullivan (Cats) - 34
O'Sullivan (North) - 59
Prior - 33
Hamling - 45
Stone - -1
Hardeman - 25
Knevitt - 21
Ashcroft - 48
Davidson - 50
Henderson - 53
Langford - 10
Dewar - 70
M. Reid - 64
Kako - 25
Warner - 56
Draper - 87
H. Davis - -8
Lalor - 67
Lindsay - 1
Moraes - 35
Tsatas - -15
Hewett - -32
SPP - 17
L. Cleary - 11
C. Cleary - 7
M. Hall - 29
A. Reid - 42
Dudley - 21
W. White - -15
Lord - 75
Durdin - 8
Lynch - -13

Some other key BE's as well

O. McDonald - -64
Flynn - -45

Chad Warner - 79
LDU - 104
Cripps - 103

Quote from: Ringo on April 28, 2025, 09:26:16 AMNice week - I may consider Warner as well but Swans have some biggies to bring back in,

Here's why I'm cold on Warner, despite averaging 103 last year, his ability to convert scores into hundreds has been lacking, his last 13 games in 2024 (from round 14 onwards) yielded only two hundreds, 114 & 116, the rest were in the 70-99 bracket apart from an outlier 38 against the Bulldogs. He's definitely playing more midfield the past 2 games but there are no guarantees he will stay there. I suppose most of the forwards are timesharing to some degree but I don't expect Warner to be more effective than say Parker who also seems to be mired in the 70-99 bracket.

So with teams trickling out and so many names dropping as late outs, I locked in Tsatas which I instantly regret. I will hold Oliver and I'm looking like I should be able to field a full squad this week

If anyone gets a minute, can they have a look at my RDT side. I'm tossing up a couple of trades this week to try and make up ground.

Round 8

Score: 2288
Rank: 24,900
Round Rank: 52,529
Cash: $158,400

Trades

Lalor > Tsatas
Moraes > Warner

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Good: Sheezel, Ryan, Neale, Trac, W. Ashcroft, L. Ashcroft, Warner, Xerri, Macrae, Smith, Dudley
Pass: Zorko, O'Sullivan, Holmes, JHF, Daniel
Bad: Roberts, Lindsay, TDK, SPP, Cleary
Ugly: Bowey, Bice, Carroll, Tsatas, Davidson, Flynn

A pretty crap week overall with a nice panic trade of bringing in Tsatas. Without being able to see the teams and knowing which players would be named, I threw Tsatas in once I knew he wasn't sub. He is likely to be dropped this week to make matters worse.

Some trades I am tossing up this week

Davidson > Hustwaite
Bice > Merrett
Flynn > Cripps

Hustwaite seems like a goer as a rookie, Merrett looks to have bottomed out and so has Cripps (who has also started to hit form). I am also considering LDU instead of Cripps, although he may be an option next week if I can make the funds work. I am a little undecided, but I feel Flynn is on the verge of being dropped again and the others may be ripe to trade out this week

Tick tick on the first two trades. Cripps a solid choice at the price. I was looking at LDU also given the move back with Sheezel wondering if that opened the door for him to start going big. Last year he did the same real slow start then went on a rampage.

I forgot to do my teams and have to go to work, I'll update tonight when I get home. I think I am in a tough spot but I have some options

Round 9

Score: 2260
Rank: 29,755
Round Rank: 60,597
Cash: $125,700

Trades

Davidson > Hustwaite
Bice > Merrett

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Good: Zorko, Holmes, Ryan, Bowey, L. Ashcroft, Lindsay, Xerri, Smith, JHF
Pass: Sheezel, TDK, Trac, Warner, Flynn
Bad: Roberts, Merrett, W. Ashcroft, Gross, Macrae
Ugly: O'Sullivan, Neale (C), Oliver, Daniel, Hustwaite, SPP, Cleary, Dudley

Really bad week compounded by an awful captain choice (tossed up Neale and Xerri, went Neale). My team looks like a bit of a disaster right now and I'm trying to work out a way to salvage it. The lack of rookies is the hardest thing to manage right now. I also have a handful of guys in the not good enough category that seem to have hit the skids. Oliver is now a tagger and looks like a bad hold on my end.

Trades this week I was looking at O'Sullivan to El-Hawli and SPP to Steele. I still have a bit of cash left and could have turned Flynn into someone like Sicily, but I thought hold Flynn in case TDK is out. I could use my boost to turn Tsatas into someone like Boxshall if named, or Boyd into the Richmond rookie to open up the DPP and get me some TDK coverage this week. Cleary would survive for the week but it's a bit of a wait and see.

Yeah I'm in same boat rookies aren't going to crash hot at the moment. TDK is out as well so have to make a choice there what to do. Likely a one week injury but still hard to cover

Think wait and see is the common theme this week.  See what later today brings.

Round 10

Score: 2173
Rank: 33,323
Round Rank: 61,933
Cash: $99,200

Trades

SPP > Steele
O'Sullivan > El-Hawli

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Good: Bowey, Neale, W. Ashcroft, Xerri, Smith, Warner, Daniel, Flynn
Pass: Zorko, Ryan, Oliver, Lindsay, Trac
Bad: Roberts, L. Ashcroft, Steele, Cleary
Ugly: Sheezel, Holmes, Carroll, El-Hawli, Merrett, Gross, Macrae, JHF, Dudley

Another disaster week compounded by the two major injuries to JHF and Macrae. El-Hawli was a monster flop rookie to bring in. He scored well for the half he actually played before he was subbed at HT. I should have known better but oh well. I think I might hold the two injured guys in Macrae and JHF to just try and win my league finals, although I think JHF is the trade of the two with the Macrae score not tanking his price. Simpson is an in, just need to work out what to do with the rest of my trades

Simpson is definitely the pick of the rookies, I'm severing Hustwaite, I think he's played his annual 2-3 games.

Tsatas to Simpson for cash gain via one of JHF or Macrae. Then if you decide JHF to a prem mid

or a more risky trade
Cleary to Simpson
Tsatas to Bolton.
Move Lashcroft to forwards vis JHF or Macrae with Gross still at M9 and Simpson/Dudley at F8 allowing you to keep both JHF and Macrae

Quote from: Ringo on May 22, 2025, 01:16:08 PMTsatas to Simpson for cash gain via one of JHF or Macrae. Then if you decide JHF to a prem mid

or a more risky trade
Cleary to Simpson
Tsatas to Bolton.
Move Lashcroft to forwards vis JHF or Macrae with Gross still at M9 and Simpson/Dudley at F8 allowing you to keep both JHF and Macrae

Depth is the best strategy, I think the extra premo could prove to be decisive over the bye period.

The only mid I would bend over backwards for would be Bont but even that can wait with a bye coming up.

I'm contemplating Boyd to Sims to open up some DPP, Dudley to Simpson and Levi Ashcroft to LDU

Quote from: Mat0369 on May 22, 2025, 06:49:50 PMI'm contemplating Boyd to Sims to open up some DPP, Dudley to Simpson and Levi Ashcroft to LDU

If you still have boosts I would be using those, Sims won't be a great scorer but does provide some excellent flexibility. Tossed up between him and a mid/forward and went the latter but Sims is still a good pick.

LDU is a solid POD but is as inconsistent as Rowell, these two I tend to avoid but he's also the type who might get you a win in a tight head to head.