Team Name: Pressure Point | Salary Remaining: $28,500
Defence:
Luke Ryan, Jeremy Howe, Zach Williams
Hunter Clark, Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Highmore
(Bench: Kieren Briggs, Will Gould)
Midfield:
Lachie Neale, Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Nathan Fyfe
Taylor Adams, Matt Rowell, Dyson Heppell, Tom Powell
(Bench: Finlay Macrae, Tyler Brockman, Errol Gulden)
Rucks:
Max Gawn, Matt Flynn
(Bench: Paul Hunter)
Forwards:
Patrick Dangerfield, Dustin Martin, Braeden Campbell
Ned Cahill, Chad Warner, James Rowe
(Bench: Miles Bergman, Alec Waterman)
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Very ballsy, I'm just trying to structure the team around cash-generation. Rookies in the Ruck and Forwards seem to be the best?
Quote from: Telescopic on March 11, 2021, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Very ballsy, I'm just trying to structure the team around cash-generation. Rookies in the Ruck and Forwards seem to be the best?
Agree with stacking the forward line with rookies but never a fan of playing a rookie at R2. If you do go down this route then use the cash to solidify your backline. Williams at D3 looks a little weak.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: Telescopic on March 11, 2021, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Very ballsy, I'm just trying to structure the team around cash-generation. Rookies in the Ruck and Forwards seem to be the best?
Agree with stacking the forward line with rookies but never a fan of playing a rookie at R2. If you do go down this route then use the cash to solidify your backline. Williams at D3 looks a little weak.
Although i have been considering this doing this myself. One of the key reasons im decided not to is the team announcements being only 1 day before.
For example, during the season Meek plays on the thursday night, Hunter is meant to play on the saturday afternoon but gets dropped (which is announced on the friday). On the Saturday night, when teams are announced Flynn is also dropped and you dont have anyone available for R2 and cant trade to anyone as all rookie rucks available had already played for the week.
One thing you could do is get either Fullarton or Treacy in the forward line. So if you need to trade one of those ruck rookies for whatever reason you'd have the flexibility to trade in a fwd or mid rookie.
Also Gould and macrae unlikely to play rd 1 based on preaseason match.
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: Telescopic on March 11, 2021, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Very ballsy, I'm just trying to structure the team around cash-generation. Rookies in the Ruck and Forwards seem to be the best?
Agree with stacking the forward line with rookies but never a fan of playing a rookie at R2. If you do go down this route then use the cash to solidify your backline. Williams at D3 looks a little weak.
I can see that, I was going to hold Williams despite suspension. However, I'd rather drop him than Clark.
Perhaps; Heppell --> Downie and Williams --> Lloyd. Then have Howe D3 and Clark D4?
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 11, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:34:53 PM
Quote from: Telescopic on March 11, 2021, 04:26:10 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 11, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
Ballsy in the ruck department, I like the boldness of this strategy but it is a high risk strategy.
Very ballsy, I'm just trying to structure the team around cash-generation. Rookies in the Ruck and Forwards seem to be the best?
Agree with stacking the forward line with rookies but never a fan of playing a rookie at R2. If you do go down this route then use the cash to solidify your backline. Williams at D3 looks a little weak.
Although i have been considering this doing this myself. One of the key reasons im decided not to is the team announcements being only 1 day before.
For example, during the season Meek plays on the thursday night, Hunter is meant to play on the saturday afternoon but gets dropped (which is announced on the friday). On the Saturday night, when teams are announced Flynn is also dropped and you dont have anyone available for R2 and cant trade to anyone as all rookie rucks available had already played for the week.
One thing you could do is get either Fullarton or Treacy in the forward line. So if you need to trade one of those ruck rookies for whatever reason you'd have the flexibility to trade in a fwd or mid rookie.
Also Gould and macrae unlikely to play rd 1 based on preaseason match.
Reasonable argument - something to consider, for sure. Ratten said something today that Hunter would definitely debut round 1.
F.Macrae was a lock for the practice games but took time off for a death in his family. My info is that barring injuries he was a lock for round 1 before that, doubt it changes. Gould could easily become Jones!
Legends for the feedback!
Williams to Lloyd looks like a winner.
Would be awesome if Macrae gets named rd 1!
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 11, 2021, 05:39:19 PM
Would be awesome if Macrae gets named rd 1!
Don't think he will but there will be a few options.
Welcome mate first of all.
Couple of things, heppell and green probably not going to be top 10 mids so they're cash cows, will they make as much as fast as two of the best mid rooks available? I even wonder about rowell or cripps, but i have rowell.
The ruck, everyone thinks about it, can't say they don't be lying.... but I even dismissed joeys suggestion of sam draper at ruck 2 tonight within seconds. Those two ruck spots are worth so SO many points. I would look elsewhere to generate cash mid/fwd.
Williams to Lloyd or even another keeper stewart or daniels and get lloyd later.
Rooks look good if named. Team has huge upside but with that comes.... the risk. good luck whichever way you go.
Are you going for league or overall? If you're going for overall I would cull Williams.
I probably would avoid Taylor Adams as well coming off a soft tissue injury. I don't think he is going to rise in price significantly and he is someone that has struggled with his body in the past. If you downgraded him it might allow you to upgrade some other prems and rookies with the cash.
I find the forward line interesting since you're missing both Ziebell and Daniher. Both could be nice money making options and stepping stones. If you think you're going to get similar cash gen from the rookies I see the merit but I think both those guys will make it easier to bring in a Zorko/Sidebottom when they bottom out.
Welcome to the site,
Agree with the comments on Williams. Your decision but it may be difficult from reports getting 4 playing rookies round 1 as this where there appears a distinct lack given the practice matches and AAMI series.
Ballsy decision with Rucks especially if Fllynn does not play Rd 1 and Hunter may be gone early depending on how long Ryder absent so keep an eye on that.
Also agree with others on Zeibell and Daniher.
Your team but I would look at the following Heppell down to a rookie.ove Dusty/Danger to mids to replace Adams, Upgrade Williams to Lloyd, Daniel, Stewart and see if you can get both if not 1 of Zeibell and Daniher forwards.
have a look at structures being used by other teams in this thread and adapt to suit your needs,
Nice start and good luck.
Team Name: Pressure Point | Salary Remaining: $10,300
Defence:
Jake Lloyd, Luke Ryan, Caleb Daniel
Jeremy Howe, Jordan Clark, Jacob Koschitzke
(Bench: Tom Highmore, Will Gould)
Midfield:
Lachie Neale, Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Jackson Merrett
Dustin Martin (From FWD), Matt Rowell, Braeden Campbell (From FWD), Tom Powell
(Bench: Finlay Macrae, Tyler Brockman, Errol Gulden)
Rucks:
Max Gawn, Matt Flynn
(Bench: Paul Hunter)
Forwards:
Patrick Dangerfield, Jack Ziebell, Joe Daniher
Ned Cahill, Chad Warner, James Rowe
(Bench: Miles Bergman, Alec Waterman)
Appreciate the feedback! I've taken it all in to make the recommended changes to see how it looks.
I am wary on Daniher because he's really shown nothing aside from one good year. However, given he's in 40% of teams it is probably better to have him in. Perhaps its slightly stronger across the board.
Good job!
you won't find a lot of support for the ruck strategy, but putting that aside your selections and structure looking very good.
Danniher doesn't have to set the world on fire at his price, should be a great money maker.
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 12, 2021, 06:04:01 PM
Good job!
you won't find a lot of support for the ruck strategy, but putting that aside your selections and structure looking very good.
Danniher doesn't have to set the world on fire at his price, should be a great money maker.
Thanks Colliwobblers!
I figured as much. But if there's a year to do it - this has to be it doesn't it?
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 12, 2021, 06:04:01 PM
Good job!
you won't find a lot of support for the ruck strategy, but putting that aside your selections and structure looking very good.
Danniher doesn't have to set the world on fire at his price, should be a great money maker.
I actually like the ruck strategy (https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh.png). It's one was thinking of running myself until Briggs played the way he did. I wouldn't really want to run Meek/Hunter since both could get dropped but I feel Flynn/Hunter would be amazing for cash gen and could top up the rest of your lines. If we had teams named on the Friday night it is something I'd honestly consider but with teams being named well after the Pies play it's probably too risky if Flynn doesn't get the nod round 1.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2021, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 12, 2021, 06:04:01 PM
Good job!
you won't find a lot of support for the ruck strategy, but putting that aside your selections and structure looking very good.
Danniher doesn't have to set the world on fire at his price, should be a great money maker.
I actually like the ruck strategy (https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh.png). It's one was thinking of running myself until Briggs played the way he did. I wouldn't really want to run Meek/Hunter since both could get dropped but I feel Flynn/Hunter would be amazing for cash gen and could top up the rest of your lines. If we had teams named on the Friday night it is something I'd honestly consider but with teams being named well after the Pies play it's probably too risky if Flynn doesn't get the nod round 1.
Agree with Mat!
I like the idea in theory as Flynn/Hunter could average 80+ and be really good cash cows but if one doesn’t get named or they get dropped after one round then your season is over!
In regards to the rest of you team it’s really really good.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 13, 2021, 11:18:04 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 12, 2021, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: Colliwobblers on March 12, 2021, 06:04:01 PM
Good job!
you won't find a lot of support for the ruck strategy, but putting that aside your selections and structure looking very good.
Danniher doesn't have to set the world on fire at his price, should be a great money maker.
I actually like the ruck strategy (https://www.eaglesmessageboard.com/uploads/emoticons/default_laugh.png). It's one was thinking of running myself until Briggs played the way he did. I wouldn't really want to run Meek/Hunter since both could get dropped but I feel Flynn/Hunter would be amazing for cash gen and could top up the rest of your lines. If we had teams named on the Friday night it is something I'd honestly consider but with teams being named well after the Pies play it's probably too risky if Flynn doesn't get the nod round 1.
Agree with Mat!
I like the idea in theory as Flynn/Hunter could average 80+ and be really good cash cows but if one doesn’t get named or they get dropped after one round then your season is over!
In regards to the rest of you team it’s really really good.
I'm currently with the same set up. Yes it's a very high risk/reward strategy, but not season ending if it doesn't work out, as long as you have a back up plan. You'd have to trade out a premium for a rookie on another line and upgrade a rookie ruck to either one of the big 2/3 or look at a mid pricer like Nank or Draper with a view to trade them out again later. Yes it could cost 2-3 trades extra but that's the risk you take. If at least one of the two rookies makes it to round 4/5 then it would be get Marshall in with a view to move him forward later in the season.
I'm still deciding which way to go but my team feels good with just the 1 premium ruck, Short at d5 and Dusty at m6.
Agreed, not season ending at all. You just need to burn a couple of trades downgrading a premium on another line to bring in Grundy.
Or find an extra 100k for spud boy Hickey
When Witts had his breakout year those that went with this structure nailed it, there's hope albeit tinged with a fair degree of risk. Worst case scenario, Briggs displaces Flynn & Ryder returns after a week.
Few problems solved now! Hunter and Flynn confirmed to Debut R1 ;D LESSGOOOO
Quote from: Telescopic on March 15, 2021, 04:03:14 PM
Few problems solved now! Hunter and Flynn confirmed to Debut R1 ;D LESSGOOOO
To be honest I'm leaning this route as well. I could turn Sharp into Dusty and Briggs into Butts. We also have Meek as a nice sideways option if it goes pearshaped
Lloyd and Rowell
v
Laird and Dunkley
Fiddled around with rookies and stuff and am stuck on this.
I'd hate not to have Lloyd but this knee that's been bothering him concerns me.
I get 2 Keepers v 1 and a maybe which would mean 1-2 less trades probably.
Prefer Laird and Dunkley
Had similar concerns with Lloyd and he is now out of my team and gives me a very strong mid prem 5.
Quote from: Ringo on March 16, 2021, 01:36:51 PM
Prefer Laird and Dunkley
Had similar concerns with Lloyd and he is now out of my team and gives me a very strong mid prem 5.
I had the same thoughts and also went Laird - Dunkley. Both will finish as top scorers in back-forward respectively
Cheers for all your help in this last week everyone. I have now landed on this before final teams are released!
Changes boldened.
Team Name: Pressure Point | Salary Remaining: $26,100
Defence:
Luke Ryan, Rory Laird, Jordan Ridley
Jeremy Howe, Jordan Clark, Jordan Butts
(Bench: Jacob Koschitzke, Nicholas Murray)
Midfield:
Lachie Neale, Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Patrick Dangerfield (From FWD)
Taylor Adams, Dustin Martin, Braeden Campbell, Tom Powell
(Bench: Tyler Brockman, Errol Gulden, Anthony Scott)
Rucks:
Max Gawn, Matt Flynn
(Bench: Paul Hunter)
Forwards:
Josh Dunkley, Jack Ziebell, Joe Daniher
Ned Cahill, Chad Warner, James Rowe
(Bench: Tom Fullarton, Miles Bergman)
I can't really fault it. A couple of different picks but they could all pay off.
Have you much cash to adjust rookies if required. Think you have nailed most but until teams announced can not be certain.
You have 12 keepers like most teams so can not fault, Different structure to some though so hope it pays off for you.
Team Name: Pressure Point | Salary Remaining: $22,800 | R1 Score: 2073 | Overall Rank: 9,061
Defence:
Luke Ryan, Rory Laird, Jordan Ridley
Jeremy Howe, Jordan Clark, Jordan Butts
(Bench: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Highmore)
Midfield:
Lachie Neale, Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Patrick Dangerfield
Taylor Adams, Dustin Martin, Braeden Campbell, Errol Gulden
(Bench: Tom, Powell, Tyler Brockman, Sam Berry)
Rucks:
Max Gawn, Matt Flynn
(Bench: Paul Hunter)
Forwards:
Josh Dunkley, Jack Ziebell, Joe Daniher
Ned Cahill, Chad Warner, Anthony Scott
(Bench: James Rowe, Miles Bergman)
R2 Potential Changes
Danger probably has to go. I have a few swing sets and many options. My main goal at this stage would for me to have enough cash to get Cahill to McDonald or Daniher to Young next round. Brockman will probably become Jordon as well.
Option A) Danger --> Short/Steward (Via Clark)
Option B) Danger --> Boak/Walsh or another midfielder
Option C) Danger --> Zorko (Via Scott)
Thoughts?
I would honestly turn Danger into an out and out mid premo if you can. No speculative picks. So a Merrett, Mitchell, Fyfe is probably youd best bet. By having Taylor Adams in that midfield you don't want to grab someone that could be a one game wonder but still sot around the rung below. Fyfe there is no questions on his scoring, just his body. Mitchell and Merrett will rack up the pill so I feel they're both safer options
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 01:52:55 PM
I would honestly turn Danger into an out and out mid premo if you can. No speculative picks. So a Merrett, Mitchell, Fyfe is probably youd best bet. By having Taylor Adams in that midfield you don't want to grab someone that could be a one game wonder but still sot around the rung below. Fyfe there is no questions on his scoring, just his body. Mitchell and Merrett will rack up the pill so I feel they're both safer options
Seems like a better call tbh. I'd go with Mitchell probably. He was in my December/January teams.
Doing that would still allow me to assess Cahill and Daniher next week and turn them into Young and Jordon as corrective trades - if need be.
The other option is Zac Williams. We were all hot on him in Round 1, then he got suspended. I feel he could be a premium defender but I don't know how advantageous pocketing the cash is.
I'm not too stressed on Danhier. They were spanked. He has a high ceiling and you just need a couple of those huge games for cash gen
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 22, 2021, 07:31:48 PM
The other option is Zac Williams. We were all hot on him in Round 1, then he got suspended. I feel he could be a premium defender but I don't know how advantageous pocketing the cash is.
I'm not too stressed on Danhier. They were spanked. He has a high ceiling and you just need a couple of those huge games for cash gen
Probably can't justify the cash gen? That 200k or so sitting there when I'd probably be losing 10-20ppg from him v a prem midfielder. Think you're right - Titch is probably the best option!
What sort of points differential would justify Daniher to Young? They're priced about 8 points apart...
It may be 8 points but it's also 50k. That is a decent chunk of change. A lot of teams went heavy down back with one of Clark or Young at D5. It's probably a bit too much to have one at D5 and one at D6 although you can probably swing Clark into the midfield in your case.
I'm not sure how accurate the Tooserious price calculator is anymore, but it may be worth playing around with their scores to see who will generate cash quicker. If Daniher has a couple of 5 goal 120+ point games mixed in with those 50's, he may generate cash quicker than Young who will score more in the 80/90 range each week.
Good start. Danger unfortunate.
I'd tun him into merrett , tich otherwise.
wouldn't do anything else.
Daniher is a rook onfield at worst but that's all he's priced at. BE is 33, when the lions get into gear he will score a lot better.
think most of us without him will get jordon in, for the first rook dropped or the one who scores worst over the first two rounds.
Danger to zorko if scott gets dropped isnt a bad move either. 6 clangers and 5 frees against, his 114 could have been significantly higher.
Agree with others Danger to Mitchell, Merrett or Fyfe. As Matt says with Adams in your team do not want another speculative pick.
Sit back and assess Rookies again this week for correction trades next week. Any of us without Jordan will be looking at getting him in.
Nice start and as I advise most when considering go with gut as it is seldom wrong.
Cheers everyone!
Danger to Titch will be the play, by the looks of it.
Team Name: Pressure Point | Salary Remaining: $22,800 | R2 Score: 2316 | Overall Rank: 2,634
Trades Completed:
IN: Tom Mitchell, OUT: Patrick Dangerfield
Defence:
Luke Ryan, Rory Laird, Jordan Ridley
Jeremy Howe, Jordan Clark, Jordan Butts
(Bench: Jacob Koschitzke, Tom Highmore)
Midfield:
Lachie Neale, Jackson Macrae, Marcus Bontempelli, Tom Mitchell
Taylor Adams, Dustin Martin, Braeden Campbell, Errol Gulden
(Bench: Tom, Powell, Sam Berry, Anthony Scott)
Rucks:
Max Gawn, Matt Flynn
(Bench: Paul Hunter)
Forwards:
Josh Dunkley, Jack Ziebell, Joe Daniher
Chad Warner, Miles Bergman, James Rowe
(Bench: Ned Cahill, Tyler Brockman)
Very happy with where I'm sitting at the moment. James Jordon is the one I need in, Ned Cahill is the guy who has to go. Pretty simple trade which will then move Campbell on field up forward. Butts is the other rookie who looks like he needs to go. However, his teammate Murray is on the bubble next week and could be the trade depending on what they both score.
Proposed Trade:
IN: James Jordon, OUT: Ned Cahill (Via Braeden Campbell).
Excellent trade. It pushes one of the crappy forward rookies to the bench as well.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 29, 2021, 01:09:43 AM
Excellent trade. It pushes one of the crappy forward rookies to the bench as well.
Exactly, was also 2.9k from Daniher to Tex for a massive cash grab. :(
Most likely will be my only move.
I was originally thinking Dow to Jordan and Daniher to Tex before Neale/Cripps stunk it up. It sucks you're just short because that's also a move I'm a fan of.