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Title: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 21, 2020, 02:26:35 PM
Hello all!

Now that SC has opened and I've wasted the entire morning, here is my first draft!  :D

Gotta say, I know its a little cookie-cutter but I'm fairly happy with it. Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts.

(https://i.imgur.com/wH1TVMm.png)
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: crowls on January 21, 2020, 11:57:33 PM
not cookie cutter at all sven.  some nice pod's in there, well done off to a good start.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 22, 2020, 11:14:03 AM
Yeah I think this team has some really good pods.

Nic Nat could single Handley make or break your season. Haha :P

I’d swing Greene and Steven and turn Greene into Coniglio if you could also.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 22, 2020, 04:31:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 22, 2020, 11:14:03 AM
Yeah I think this team has some really good pods.

Nic Nat could single Handley make or break your season. Haha :P

I’d swing Greene and Steven and turn Greene into Coniglio if you could also.

Not a bad option, thanks for that tip. Had to make a few adjustments in order to fit him in....thoughts?

(https://i.imgur.com/Y5p5oBM.png)
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 22, 2020, 05:13:21 PM
Like the second team a lot more.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 22, 2020, 11:54:48 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 22, 2020, 05:13:21 PM
Like the second team a lot more.

I really want to get Greene into my side and I've found a way....

OUT: A. Bonar, S. Flanders, D. Smith
IN: T. Bianco, J. Mead, T. Greene

Hill moves to the forward line to replace Bonar, Gould moves onto the field to fill the void. Any rookie could slot in for Flanders in the midfield and Greene replaces Smith up forward.

Does this make it better or leave me weaker?  ???
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Ringo on January 23, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
Still prefer the second team though to sit. Consider those moves when we know what rookies are playing. Using Hill as aswing man beneficial.
With Greene be prepared for the ups and downs with suspensions or injuries. Definitely prefer Smith over him.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 23, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: Ringo on January 23, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
Still prefer the second team though to sit. Consider those moves when we know what rookies are playing. Using Hill as aswing man beneficial.
With Greene be prepared for the ups and downs with suspensions or injuries. Definitely prefer Smith over him.

It's just too hard to leave him out given his finish last year. Between Rds 17 - 23 he averaged 121.33! Yes, he's a gamble, but so is half of my side.  :P
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 12:02:33 PM
Quote from: Sven on January 23, 2020, 11:55:51 AM
Quote from: Ringo on January 23, 2020, 09:11:20 AM
Still prefer the second team though to sit. Consider those moves when we know what rookies are playing. Using Hill as aswing man beneficial.
With Greene be prepared for the ups and downs with suspensions or injuries. Definitely prefer Smith over him.

It's just too hard to leave him out given his finish last year. Between Rds 17 - 23 he averaged 121.33! Yes, he's a gamble, but so is half of my side.  :P
Coniglio got injured in round 16. Kelly missed a chunk of games in that period as well. Ward to also come back.
Think you’ll see him be pushed forward again and go back to a 90-95avg which is good but by no means a lock.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Hoggyz_a_legend on January 23, 2020, 12:57:04 PM
Greene's too much of an unknown for me to consider. I reckon he cam avg anywhere from 80-110 purely dependent on his role.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 23, 2020, 05:30:28 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 12:02:33 PM
Coniglio got injured in round 16. Kelly missed a chunk of games in that period as well. Ward to also come back.
Think you’ll see him be pushed forward again and go back to a 90-95avg which is good but by no means a lock.

Quote from: Hoggyz_a_legend on January 23, 2020, 12:57:04 PM
Greene's too much of an unknown for me to consider. I reckon he cam avg anywhere from 80-110 purely dependent on his role.

Both valid points. Perhaps I'll put him onto the wait and see pile for now.

Made a few tweaks, but still liking the current structure.

(https://i.imgur.com/PnCN85z.png)

Also made up a team with Gawn in as well, which looks better now?

(https://i.imgur.com/pjOJD9d.png)
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Definitely the second. Looks a lot safer.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 24, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Definitely the second. Looks a lot safer.

The only thing I dont like about the 2nd one is the two rookies on field down forward...  :-\
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 24, 2020, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: Sven on January 24, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Definitely the second. Looks a lot safer.

The only thing I dont like about the 2nd one is the two rookies on field down forward...  :-\
Bit hard to say at this point but Rankine/King both look like locks and there is always a handful of other forward rookies to pick from as well. I think it will end up being okay.

Just aim to upgrade your forward line first to get the rookies off the field.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Ringo on January 24, 2020, 02:00:32 PM
Also just work out which rookies will start in defence or forward as you have the option to move Hill forward if more defensive rookies start.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 24, 2020, 06:24:46 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 24, 2020, 12:58:45 PM
Quote from: Sven on January 24, 2020, 12:09:25 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 23, 2020, 09:05:37 PM
Definitely the second. Looks a lot safer.

The only thing I dont like about the 2nd one is the two rookies on field down forward...  :-\
Bit hard to say at this point but Rankine/King both look like locks and there is always a handful of other forward rookies to pick from as well. I think it will end up being okay.

Just aim to upgrade your forward line first to get the rookies off the field.

Quote from: Ringo on January 24, 2020, 02:00:32 PM
Also just work out which rookies will start in defence or forward as you have the option to move Hill forward if more defensive rookies start.

Yeah definitely too early to tell, fingers crossed its not like last year, huge lack of rookies!

I really appreciate all your comments and feedback so far, had a few play arounds, and I think I've finally found a middle ground to it all. Gone for a stricter GnR approach with two exceptions.

(https://i.imgur.com/rrQGLRp.png)

Really like my defence, forward, ruck line. Conigs is a loss to the mid, but I think I can get away with it given the strength of the rookies available here.

Always been a fan of the 3/1/4 structure in defence and forward, worked well for me in previous years. Would have liked a 5th premo in the mids, but something has to give to allow Gawn/Grundy combo in.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 25, 2020, 12:15:59 AM
It’s amazing what Rowell at M5 does in terms of strengthening your other lines. I like it a lot more than I thought I would.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Peter on January 25, 2020, 09:34:54 AM
The question becomes have you got enough players who will earn you over 100 points per game
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 25, 2020, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 25, 2020, 12:15:59 AM
It’s amazing what Rowell at M5 does in terms of strengthening your other lines. I like it a lot more than I thought I would.

Yeah, that was my first thought too! Not to mention it also allows me to have rookies like Stephens and Serong.  :D
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 25, 2020, 03:37:28 PM
Quote from: Peter on January 25, 2020, 09:34:54 AM
The question becomes have you got enough players who will earn you over 100 points per game

Got at least 12 in my current side. Swapping Gawn for NicNat would give me 13 though.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: HappyDEZ on January 28, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
No Nakia again. Maybe I am the one off base here. He is extremely injury prone.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: coglan13 on January 28, 2020, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on January 28, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
No Nakia again. Maybe I am the one off base here. He is extremely injury prone.
Cockatoo needs to average 55.2 to make 150K as a rookie. If you think he can do this then he could be a good pick. Only in 2016 however did if average more, 63.2 that year from 11 games. Rowell needs to average 66.2 which will also be challenging but not impossible. People should not expect another Walsh like performance. A 102,400 priced rookie only needs to average 46.7 to make 150K.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 28, 2020, 07:33:23 PM
Quote from: coglan13 on January 28, 2020, 04:37:33 PM
Quote from: HappyDEZ on January 28, 2020, 03:25:30 PM
No Nakia again. Maybe I am the one off base here. He is extremely injury prone.
Cockatoo needs to average 55.2 to make 150K as a rookie. If you think he can do this then he could be a good pick. Only in 2016 however did if average more, 63.2 that year from 11 games. Rowell needs to average 66.2 which will also be challenging but not impossible. People should not expect another Walsh like performance. A 102,400 priced rookie only needs to average 46.7 to make 150K.

Nakia Cockatoo hasn't been in any of my sides...  ???
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 29, 2020, 10:35:12 AM
Just heard Jack Steven has injured his calf....

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1222046830050992128?s=19

Hmm, might have to shuffle some things around, or just swap Steven for Smith.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on January 29, 2020, 06:17:20 PM
Quote from: Sven on January 29, 2020, 10:35:12 AM
Just heard Jack Steven has injured his calf....

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1222046830050992128?s=19

Hmm, might have to shuffle some things around, or just swap Steven for Smith.

And now Isaac Heeney...  :(

https://www.afl.com.au/news/368109/star-swan-set-for-surgery-after-awkward-landing-at-training

Well....back to the drawing board. Here I thought this was going to be the year when I didnt make over 1000 changes before pre-season matches kicked off....  ::)
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on January 30, 2020, 12:00:14 PM
I believe this structure will become more common as the pre-season goes on:

i.e.

Rowell @ M5

This allows for Docherty at D3 & Heeney (or similar) at F3.

It's the rookies behind Rowell that makes this structure appealing. With a premium M5, and Rowell at M6, you're omitting Stephens/Serong/McHenry etc. But I have more confidence in these Rookies than all of Doedee/Robertson/Stephen Hill, and Steven/Devon Smith.

Going with Rowell at M5 / Docherty at M3 / Heeney (or similar) F3/... allows me to choose only one of Doedee/Robertson + Stephen Hill (who can easily become Young or Zerk-Thatcher), and on the Forward line (Steven or Smith, or neither).

Rowell at M6 (assuming you have five ultra premium mids + Grundy/Gawn + Whitfield/Martin) means you're starting with most of these speculative mid-pricers... and I think there's zero chance they're ALL going to come off.

I have two reservations about this structure of Rowell at M5:

1. It means only 12 keepers (most of which are ultra premiums)
You'd normally want at least 13 keepers, with 19-20 trades to complete your team.

2. Four rookie mids:
Assuming you upgrade to an ultra-premium, you normally need 3 trades to complete one rookie mid upgrade... that's 12 trades just to complete your midfield

However, everyone running a structure of 13 or 14 keepers is more than likely counting Steven & Smith and Roberton & Doedee as keepers. I don't believe ALL these players will develop into keepers. You need to minimise your risk by limiting yourself to two of them (to allow for sideways movement).

Running with Rowell at M5 essentially means you're betting against ALL those mid-pricers coming off; and managers will need to expend correction trades on players they counted as keepers at the start.

As it stands, I have Rowell at M5.
Title: Re: Team Sven 2020
Post by: Sven on February 02, 2020, 10:20:50 PM
Well, I knew it was always too good to be true to have a side practically locked this early on.

Injury (setbacks) to a number of players have forced me to have a rethink, and I've kinda done a full 360.

I'm still going to keep an eye on the likes of Heeney, Buddy, Steven and Gawn, but for now they are all out in favour of others.

With Gawn out and Nic Nat in, it allows for the return of Rowell at M6 and Coniglio at M5.

(https://i.imgur.com/uXgwk5h.png)