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Title: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on December 24, 2019, 03:14:00 PM
just paid up my 19.95 to get access to team picker.

Defenders - stuck with my no exp def rule.   may look at alt to blakely
James Sicily $509,500
Sam Docherty $436,100
Connor Blakely $411,500
Tom Doedee $273,700
Jez McLennan $123,900
Will Gould $117,300

Hayden Young $180,300
Trent Rivers $117,300

Midfielders - happy with midfield, gone consistency over avg.
Lachie Neale $658,500
Patrick Cripps $635,900
Josh Dunkley $632,400
Clayton Oliver $593,900
Stephen Coniglio $549,500
Matthew Rowell $207,300
Marlion Pickett $123,900
Deven Robertson $117,300

Luke Valente $123,900
Harry Schoenberg $117,300
Mitchell Hibberd $114,400

Rucks
Brodie Grundy $705,900
Max Gawn $697,100

Darcy Cameron $123,900


Forwards - like to get whitfield/greenwood into fwds somehow.  may drop martin/downgrade smith
Dustin Martin $543,000
Isaac Heeney $510,700
Devon Smith $335,800
Jack Steven $361,700
Aiden Bonar $202,800
Izak Rankine $123,900

Ned Cahill $117,300
Jack Mahony $117,300
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on December 24, 2019, 03:28:44 PM
Out
Blakely, Valente
In
Byrne-Jones, Bianco
provides d/m link and dbj strong upside potential to mid 90 avg.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Ringo on December 24, 2019, 03:31:58 PM
Nice to see some different teams and structures getting around initially.  Nice team and structure, No interest in Hill at 190k with DPP as well.

The Gawn/Grundy combo locks up a fair bit of the cap making it difficult for other lines.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on December 24, 2019, 06:59:56 PM
Hi Ringo,  will have a crack at a team with only Grundy and see how it looks,  in theory we should be able to save cash on rucks and deploy it well elsewhere it just exposes your team at r3 though and uses at least one trade for the upgrade.   Did it last year with grundy and goldy, not sure it is worth the effort.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: LordSneeze on December 24, 2019, 07:28:47 PM
Interesting setup, love the idea with Greenwood and I feel he will walk straight into the Gold Coast lineup and sit in alongside Fiorini, Swallow, Miles, Hes proven he can score 100+ and given DPP I can see a 95 average with potential for 105.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on December 24, 2019, 09:17:33 PM
Quote from: LordSneeze on December 24, 2019, 07:28:47 PM
Interesting setup, love the idea with Greenwood and I feel he will walk straight into the Gold Coast lineup and sit in alongside Fiorini, Swallow, Miles, Hes proven he can score 100+ and given DPP I can see a 95 average with potential for 105.
Agree LS,  will be surprised if we dont see a lot of teams start Greenwood.   Will be main contested mid for them and is still improving.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on December 27, 2019, 06:53:00 PM
options/watchlist
def:
lloyd, laird, zwilliams, stewart, ryan, blakely
mid
macrea, fyfe, mitchell, kelly, bont, danger
ruc
rob, jacobs  goldy  if a repacement is needed,  grawndy really only viable option without a lot of risk and luck
fwd
whitfield, parish, greenwood, greene, tmac, acres
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: enzedder on December 31, 2019, 08:00:27 AM
Solid thinking mate.
Had Blakely last year and he spudded. Was a calculated risk that just didn't pay off. I'm not sure about DBJ but at least he's not Blakely haha.
Dev Smith will likely be in and out of my calculations, depending on pre season and if I don't quite have enough cash for that last premo.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on January 23, 2020, 09:19:42 PM
Latest team,   
quite like this team, have 216k cash,  link between def/fwds with dawson/hill. 
dropped dev smith due to risk over ability to maintain prev tackle and disposal counts to get to 90pt avg. 
(https://i.ibb.co/XyNpqB7/screenshot-supercoach-heraldsun-com-au-2020-01-23-20-01-23.png) (https://ibb.co/1shKkVr)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Ringo on January 24, 2020, 08:46:45 AM
Nice amount of cash to fix once we know rookies that play. Just a concern with Dawson at D3 rather than d4 but easily corrected if need be.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Money Shot on January 24, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
Leaving Dusty and Whitfield is obviously risky but it pretty much allows you to get another premium in compared to a mid pricer. Love the Greenwood pick as he could easily be GC's number 1 mid this season and I understand the Dawson pick as well. It is also a handy link to have Being able to switch him with Hill.

Pretty good first team.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on January 24, 2020, 01:38:43 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on January 24, 2020, 12:56:56 PM
Leaving Dusty and Whitfield is obviously risky but it pretty much allows you to get another premium in compared to a mid pricer. Love the Greenwood pick as he could easily be GC's number 1 mid this season and I understand the Dawson pick as well. It is also a handy link to have Being able to switch him with Hill.

Pretty good first team.
Thanks MS and Ringo,  lot of movement around the high price options in Fwd and Def this year.  Good year to not over commit funds up front.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on January 25, 2020, 12:01:38 PM
latest version strengthend fwds to what I consider the best starting fwds, and brought back danger for dunkley( another. option I did and had not posted)  as i am in two minds about libba impact on dunkley.  took out doedee and added in young.   clearer picture for me as young is cashcow where doedee can easily end up generating same output and less cash.  plently of cash for options.
(https://i.ibb.co/9Gv80Cn/screenshot-supercoach-heraldsun-com-au-2020-01-25-10-38-09.png) (https://ibb.co/R7SvKV2)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: tommy10 on January 28, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Nice team Crowls. Watch closely on Heeney especially with Buddy injured...will likely play more forward than mid. Was frustrating to watch last season. Doedee an option for Young to spend the leftover cash potentially or perhaps get Bonar for Cahill/Berry..wait and see on the latter I suppose.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on January 29, 2020, 07:31:24 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on January 28, 2020, 04:47:06 PM
Nice team Crowls. Watch closely on Heeney especially with Buddy injured...will likely play more forward than mid. Was frustrating to watch last season. Doedee an option for Young to spend the leftover cash potentially or perhaps get Bonar for Cahill/Berry..wait and see on the latter I suppose.
tks tommy,  options are upgrade heeney to whitfield.  think young less risk than doedee and do like bonar as an option as well.  wait and see who gets a game now
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on February 06, 2020, 02:28:29 PM
An optional version to team above - spent the money and downgraded stephen to bonar and able to bring in Laird to D1.   


thoughts on which team works better are requested?



(https://i.imgur.com/22cIZit.png)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on February 12, 2020, 08:15:18 PM
So revised the team on the basis of strengening rookie options.
Moved Hill to Fwds, dropped
Sicily to DBJ,  this is probably the risk as I see sicily as top 10,  whereas DBJ is based on continued improvement and follow up to last year.
Brought in M Casey to Def rookies,  as I understand he looks like playing round 1.
Have brought in Xerri on  basis if goldy goes down he will play and still provides f/r ruck cover of 6k additionals.


(https://i.imgur.com/hRLMUot.png)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on March 03, 2020, 09:59:52 PM
So couple of round of Marsh and the SOO under the bridge.
Tossed around a number of scenarios and leaning to Naismith as R2,  opening up ability to strengthen FWD/DEF lines.
Rookies still up in the air.

(https://i.imgur.com/EB9DXEq.png)


DEF:  Laird I still expect to be top 6.  Even with change in Adel game plan,  Houston with Mids and additional year of improvement,  DOC, looked rusty last weekend, however guy knows how to play.  The issue will be how fast he gets back to standard.  May be paying overs but too good to overlook and on same page as majority of other coaches.  Dawson probably the fall back position.  I understand Roberton's health issue and will not stop him performing, if it rears up he is done as a player and trades out to a rookie.
MIDS: Going top of the range Superprems with proven consistency,  Went Bont over Danger as Danger generally drops by byes, Dunkley left out just in case Bev looks for him to play forward.   Like Treloar but hamstring tweak puts him out.  Rooks all unknown except Rowell.
RUC: Gawn out due to injury,  Naismith in as will make good money and frees up cash and options.   May need Ceglar in fwds.
FWD: Gone super deep here,  Whitfield has been silk so far, Taranto out, he will kill it.  Martin top 6 fwd without doubt, Greenwood will deliver on expectation as Mid Bull and contested and tackle beast,  Petracca is my big punt, if plays high mid time could be anything,  downside could be another Jake Stringer though if his tank doesn't hold up(may be dropped for Ceglar at F4).
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 04, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Like it crowls. Don't mind Naismith as an R2 option, if I wasn't going Gawn he'd probably be my pick. Can't fault any of the prem choices except maybe Petracca, but not a bad idea to have one prem in your side that you've taken a punt on.

Best of luck for 2020 :)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: coglan13 on March 05, 2020, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 04, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Like it crowls. Don't mind Naismith as an R2 option, if I wasn't going Gawn he'd probably be my pick. Can't fault any of the prem choices except maybe Petracca, but not a bad idea to have one prem in your side that you've taken a punt on.

Best of luck for 2020 :)
Port now with a round 11 bye so Houston will have to sit on the bench that week. I've had him in my team from day 1 but now he becomes an upgrade target after round 11.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on March 05, 2020, 10:13:42 PM
Quote from: coglan13 on March 05, 2020, 11:10:55 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 04, 2020, 12:21:22 AM
Like it crowls. Don't mind Naismith as an R2 option, if I wasn't going Gawn he'd probably be my pick. Can't fault any of the prem choices except maybe Petracca, but not a bad idea to have one prem in your side that you've taken a punt on.

Best of luck for 2020 :)
Port now with a round 11 bye so Houston will have to sit on the bench that week. I've had him in my team from day 1 but now he becomes an upgrade target after round 11.
Round 11 is not a problem for team as structured.  Can be swapped for Dawson, Sicily or someone else if really necessary
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on March 06, 2020, 10:06:06 PM
Ok, looks like Naismith option off the table.  Max looking great.  So back to GG option
(https://i.imgur.com/JLJ7rVI.png)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Colley Dogs on March 07, 2020, 12:15:58 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 06, 2020, 10:06:06 PM
Ok, looks like Naismith option off the table.  Max looking great.  So back to GG option
(https://i.imgur.com/JLJ7rVI.png)

There's a lot to love about this.

Funny... all night I'm trying to work that Martin - Dawson - MacPherson - Ceglar set-up into my team.

Why I can't is I have Hill at F5, and Noble, Ash, & Zerk-Thatcher at D4 - D5 - D6. I too have Rowell - Green - Picket... but I also have Serong.

Wish I had the confidence in the mid and low-priced Rookies as you do.

Consequently:

I have Docherty at D2;

Martin - Dawson - Ceglar - Dev Smith on the forward line.

If your Rookies come off you're going to kill it!

Good luck for the season :)
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: SilverLion on March 07, 2020, 01:00:44 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 06, 2020, 10:06:06 PM
Ok, looks like Naismith option off the table.  Max looking great.  So back to GG option
(https://i.imgur.com/JLJ7rVI.png)
I'm a simple man. I see a team with MacPherson in, I approve.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Ringo on March 07, 2020, 12:57:08 PM
May need some tweaking when we see what rookies are available.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on March 12, 2020, 07:29:34 PM
Quote from: Ringo on March 07, 2020, 12:57:08 PM
May need some tweaking when we see what rookies are available.
Absolutely Ringo
Doing lots of options at the moment to get a feel for what is possible.
Have versions with English at R2 and 5 deep FWDs and others,   Hanging out for the round 1 teams to be announced.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on July 02, 2020, 06:38:55 PM
Draft - come back later to finish


Needed to screen shot my Round 1 team: 

Starting Team Rnd 1.  Scored 2169

Sicily, Docherty, Clark, Roberton, Cumming, BZT [Brander, Starcevich]
Macrea, Neale, Cripps, Mitchell, Sloane,Rowell, T Green, M Pickett [Brown,Budarick, McInerney]
Grundy, English [Xerri]
Whitfield, Martin, Brayshaw, D Smith, B Cavarra, Sturt [Rankine, Davis ]



Trades Round 2  - Scored 2139
Cripps 635>Simpkin 383
Brayshaw 382>Taylor 124
Roberton 260>Viney 439
Cavarra 124>Rivers 117
Davis 124 >Noble 215


Team:
Doc, Sicily, H Clark, Noble, Cumming, Starcevich, [BZT, Brander]
Neale, Macrea, Mitchell, Sloane, Viney, Rowell, Pickett McInerney [Rivers, T Green,
Grundy English [Xerri}
Whitfield, Martin, Simpkin, D Smith, Budarick, Taylor [



Rd3 Trades - Scored 1909
English 431>Pittonet 236
Green 167> Ridley 354

Trading English was easy given his poor start and Pittonet looking like a Witts repeat.  Ridley looks like a breakout and has SC  friendly role.  Hope he continues on with it.   Gutted ESS/MEL game postponed.

Ess/Mel debacle - 18 scorers including Whitfield 8.


Team:
Doc, Sicily, H Clark, Noble, Ridley, Cumming, Starcevich, [BZT, Rivers]
Neale, Macrea, Mitchell, Sloane, Viney, Rowell, Pickett McInerney [Rivers, T Green,
Grundy Pittonet [Xerri}
Whitfield, Martin, Simpkin, D Smith, Budarick, Taylor [Brander,



Rd4 Trades - Scored 2344  Grundy VC 135 taken  Neale C
Whitfield 537.5>Petracca 470
Cumming 250>Oliver 594

Felt like I lacked depth and trading Whitfield gave me the cash to get to Prems and get Whitfield back 100k cheaper.  Able to move on poor scorer in Cumming.

Team
Sicily,



Rd 5 Trades - Scored
Viney 523.6>Hill 190
Pickett 201.5> Bennell 124 -


considering Serong option though Bennell will be must have if he stays sound compared to  ?? over Serong JS and performance.   Viney will start going backwards in cash, time to move on him.  Do not really want to move on Pickett but see he as least bad choice.   Hill is goods points and 200K money increase if he stays on the park.   Trouble if you dont have him and he stays sound.   


Teams announced - Brander [injured] Noble Omitted -   pickett, serong, sturt, rivers on extended bench.      Got to move on Brander/Noble or BZT.  No trades tonight and see what comes when teams finalised tomorrow night.

Line-Up Changes Reversed
Trent Rivers will be moved from MID on the FIELD to DEF on the BENCH
Jack Viney will be put back ON the FIELD as MID
Marlion Pickett will be put back ON the FIELD as MID
Jarrod Brander will be moved from DEF on the BENCH to FWD on the BENCH set as one of your EMERGENCIES
Your Trades
Traded back Out
Traded back In
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: Mat0369 on July 02, 2020, 08:03:30 PM
Noble to Hill makes sense. I'd make that trade. I'd also dump BZT if you can, maybe turn him into Serong using Rivers. It feels  like two solid moves that will generate cash.
Title: Re: Bombers Rule 2020
Post by: crowls on July 03, 2020, 10:13:11 AM
Quote from: Mat0369 on July 02, 2020, 08:03:30 PM
Noble to Hill makes sense. I'd make that trade. I'd also dump BZT if you can, maybe turn him into Serong using Rivers. It feels  like two solid moves that will generate cash.
Thanks Mat,  went close to doing viney>williamson last night just before the game.  Need to see what turns up when teams are finalised today.   I am  hanging on these non playing rookies because I have burnt in past years trading them out too soon.    Rankine and BZT making emergencies but not cracking a game.   Hoping like hell Sturt gets a gig this week.   Noble was going to be an upgrade to Daniel/Hurn at some stage so he can still go.   


Plan is Hill/Serong this week now that Bennell not playing and hoping I have enough to get Ceglar/Hurn/Daniel next week and Whitfield the week after.   Means missing out on Bennell.   Read article last night where Goodwin says he needs to do more work on his offensive and defensive pressure.    Suppose I can defer an upgrade an grab Bennell when he gets selected.