I know people like to keep their POD's close to their chest, but with still so much time to pass before now and Round 1, a lot can still happen and thoughts will change, so who are some of the POD's you're looking at?
Callan Ward is an interesting one. Shiel, Griff, Scully all gone and Ward is a proven 105 mid with a 112 season to his name too. Tough as nails and doesn't miss many games. Seriously looking at him as a true POD
I said somewhere recently that Titch and Sicily would be the only Hawks I'd consider, but Wingard having DPP and just 480k is also on my radar to start, especially if I stack my forward line (He'd be my F4). Proven he can go 90+, and entering his prime age wise. With Titch out, he could spend a lot of time in the guts, and as seen last year when he played more mid time for Port he was regularly tonning up. Might not be a huge POD, but I still expect his ownership to be under 10%
And thirdly, Connor Blakely/Luke Ryan. Ryan was very good last year and a great POD for me, but he finished the year off poorly which saw his average drop from 96+ to 90. With the departure of Neale it's sounding like Blakely will be moving to into the mids on more of a full time basis, which should result in an increase in points and he could have his first 90+ season
That's a few of the POD's I am looking at so far. What do you think? And who are you looking at and why?
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These new kick in rules are really gonna change scoring for backman that take the kick ins. Jayden Short and Alex Witherden could become serious scorers and I've considered both.
No pods in the midfield or ruck that I would seriously consider but there are plenty that could be top 10 scorers. Sloane always tempts me.
Forward there are a lot I'm considering. Kennedy, Lynch, Gresham, Billings. Going 4 deep in the forwards is gonna mean atleast one Pod player
PODs are the best thing about the planning IMO...I look at those that have had a full preseason as number 1 consideration. I don't get tooo caught up in the "will they be a keeper" mentality as teams change so much through form or injury.
My main goal is to increase PPG - the more the better...Im always reluctant to pay top dollar but for a captain and captain loophole you have to at least have 2 of the best top 5 performers from last year
Last year I started with Cogs, Acres, Taranto, Lambert, Duggan , Jacobs, Mills ....I even had Brodie Grundy in my side but chopped him the night before lockout which was the worst thing I did all year.
I don't have SC Gold so I don't know prices or positions yet but Im looking at Boak if he is a fwd. Not captain anymore, has had a full pre season, I also think he has a slight advantage over many others with the home ground factor
Witts is big, a prime age and a safe bet to score decently and possibly increase output.....to say he doesnt have the cattle to give it to could have also been said about 211 and Goldy a few years ago...I don't buy into that excuse.
Parker is a proven gun and is healthy...Hanners leaving, Heeney and Mills coming through for a chop out - potentially can increase his PPG this year
McGrath from the Dons...a smooth mover with a solid pre season....class is class and he has it....can be a safe bet for decent scores and improving output...I don't know if he is a back or not but if he is Im on
Parish is in no mans land, Ill be watching his pre season closely
Hibberd is a bit of a forgotten stalwart - I think he can get back to his best this year, has a clean pre season...will be playing in a team full of confidence, confidence = better performances
The Bont is A Grade, a little up and down last year and he would know that. I would assume he will be cheaper this year but has potential to be one of the best scorers in the game. I have no doubt he can get back to his best
Stringer will be more settled this year, and he doesnt have an onion hair cut anymore. Had trained with the mids all pre season so far apparently
Fogarty from the Crows. Punters rate him, I assume he will still be pretty cheap
Yep Fogarty looked the goods for a young guy but he is listed at $242700 bit of problem
My downfall is always paying for premo's in the backline, so apart from Laird, I'll be locking in Blakely and Newman next to him. Awkwardly priced, but think they can both be top 10 defenders.
Yeo. Been great the last 2 seasons, and just because he's mid only in SC doesn't mean that will change.
It's possibly a little too early to tell who will be the PODs this season, but one guy I'm really keen on is Dayne Beams.
If his head and body are right, I can easily see him going 115+
(but no one pick him please)
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Yeo. Been great the last 2 seasons, and just because he's mid only in SC doesn't mean that will change.
Thought about Yeo. People of don't pick players when they lose DPP, but as u say their output doesn't change due to it.
What is putting me off is I think he will get tagged more often than Shuey now, as he did in the GF. He is fast becoming their most damaging player.
Thinking about Jroo as a POD I know with Lynch arriving he won't kick as many goals but think he will be released up the ground a lot more , he is a great mark what do people think ? extra marks and possies up the ground will outweigh kicking less goals ?
Josh Smith seems to be chopping up at West Coast pre season, if he can lock a position down I think he has very good scoring potential.
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Josh Smith seems to be chopping up at West Coast pre season, if he can lock a position down I think he has very good scoring potential.
Going to need multiple injuries to get a game though
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Josh Smith seems to be chopping up at West Coast pre season, if he can lock a position down I think he has very good scoring potential.
Going to need multiple injuries to get a game though
Lecras' gone, Ryan seems to be struggling personally, Smith seems to be working his tail off which I'd prefer in our starting 22 than a player who thins they can coast.
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Josh Smith seems to be chopping up at West Coast pre season, if he can lock a position down I think he has very good scoring potential.
Going to need multiple injuries to get a game though
Lecras' gone, Ryan seems to be struggling personally, Smith seems to be working his tail off which I'd prefer in our starting 22 than a player who thins they can coast.
Cripps is also doubtful to be ready by Round 1 so who knows, Smith might actually get a chance
245k is too much though. Not even a consideration imo
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Josh Smith seems to be chopping up at West Coast pre season, if he can lock a position down I think he has very good scoring potential.
Going to need multiple injuries to get a game though
Lecras' gone, Ryan seems to be struggling personally, Smith seems to be working his tail off which I'd prefer in our starting 22 than a player who thins they can coast.
Cripps is also doubtful to be ready by Round 1 so who knows, Smith might actually get a chance
245k is too much though. Not even a consideration imo
Definitely hard to fit in and I prob won't there either, but if he starts round 1 I reckon he'll be very solid.
Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
With the confirmation that if a player kicking in leaves the goal square it is classed as a disposal do Shaw and Simpson who both like to run become a little more relevant despite their age.
Pretty keen on Lynch if Greene doesn't line up or is seriously under done round 1.
Will watch JLT to see if he's going to be roaming CHF and beyond with Jack out of the square or vice versa.
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Not much in the last 2 years though. Still good for a 95 average with a forward role though
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Not much in the last 2 years though. Still good for a 95 average with a forward role though
It's funny, every year we question certain players and try to justify our reasoning behind why they might all of a sudden decline to the point of not being good enough
Gray and Simmo are the two that come to mind. They should just be auto picked by everyone - two less positions to worry about
(They'll probably burn me for saying that now lol)
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Not much in the last 2 years though. Still good for a 95 average with a forward role though
It's funny, every year we question certain players and try to justify our reasoning behind why they might all of a sudden decline to the point of not being good enough
Gray and Simmo are the two that come to mind. They should just be auto picked by everyone - two less positions to worry about
(They'll probably burn me for saying that now lol)
Simmo especially! Has only missed 6 games in 13 years and hasn't gone below 92 for 10 years
Think with Simmo is he's almost boring, we know what he's going to do, we'll all upgrade to him at some stage. Most of us are looking for value early, Simmo is right on the money like Laird, but you can only go with one knowing defenders tend to throw in a stinker at some point which sees their value drop.
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Watching him last year he spent more time in the middle in the first half of the year, then more time fwd in the 2nd half of the year. Basically opposite to Wingard. And both their scores reflected that. Gray averaged 116 from RD1-8, but 91 from RD8 onwards (excluding his game he got knocked out for 37)
91 is still good going but if you're picking him over any of the top averaging fwds then you'd want him playing a little bit more midfield in Wingard's absence.
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Watching him last year he spent more time in the middle in the first half of the year, then more time fwd in the 2nd half of the year. Basically opposite to Wingard. And both their scores reflected that. Gray averaged 116 from RD1-8, but 91 from RD8 onwards (excluding his game he got knocked out for 37)
91 is still good going but if you're picking him over any of the top averaging fwds then you'd want him playing a little bit more midfield in Wingard's absence.
Don't forget Polec too
Port's midfield is now Wines, Rocky, Ebert, SPP
Guys like Hoff, Boak and Motlop etc will spend a bit of time in their, but their midfield is really lacking now so I'm confident Gray gets his fair share of opportunities in there
Anyway, change the topic because I want him to remain a POD!
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Blakely, Menegola and Gray are my 3 atm.
Although Menegola or Gray could become Wingard
I've got Gray as well but I don't get why he's such a POD? He's been a gun for years and still goes 90+ even sitting deep forward all year. If he goes through the midfield a bit more with Polec and Wingard gone then he goes back to 100+ easily
Yeh i haven't seen much of him at all. We need him in the middle tho
Problem is he's an AA quality forward. We need him to split his time more like Danger/Dusty to be a really good pick
He's been playing forward and mid for years now and still scores great. If anything he might actually increase his mid time. If not, I know what I'm getting anyway
Watching him last year he spent more time in the middle in the first half of the year, then more time fwd in the 2nd half of the year. Basically opposite to Wingard. And both their scores reflected that. Gray averaged 116 from RD1-8, but 91 from RD8 onwards (excluding his game he got knocked out for 37)
91 is still good going but if you're picking him over any of the top averaging fwds then you'd want him playing a little bit more midfield in Wingard's absence.
Don't forget Polec too
Port's midfield is now Wines, Rocky, Ebert, SPP
Guys like Hoff, Boak and Motlop etc will spend a bit of time in their, but their midfield is really lacking now so I'm confident Gray gets his fair share of opportunities in there
Anyway, change the topic because I want him to remain a POD!
Umm you're forgetting their best mid there RD...Willem Drew!
That's a pretty slow/one paced midfield.
Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
22 games last year, super high ceiling, and does his average go up with the new kick in rules?
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Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
600k for a defender with most going 5 mids, 2 rucks and danger fwd is a bit how ya garn. Particularly when theres so much value back there. The one POD i want back there is sicily (after being in everyones team last year) but cant justify picking him over Laird/Whitty and isnt worth the extra coin over Blakely IMO.
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Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
22 games last year, super high ceiling, and does his average go up with the new kick in rules?
Yeh he'll be worth every bit of his 600k
Guess we hope for an early dud game and his price drops...I'll prob consider him over Laird as a POD if I have any leftover cash.
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Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
22 games last year, super high ceiling, and does his average go up with the new kick in rules?
Yeh he'll be worth every bit of his 600k
Really wanted to start him, but as hawker65 said he just can't fit with everyone else unless I swapped out Laird or Whitfield for him, and I prefer having those 2 at this stage
Hopefully we get HEAPS of fwd rookies, so I can stack my backline and get Lloyd. Outside of Danger, I reckon the there are 5+ defenders that I would prefer over any forward
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Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
22 games last year, super high ceiling, and does his average go up with the new kick in rules?
Yeh he'll be worth every bit of his 600k
Really wanted to start him, but as hawker65 said he just can't fit with everyone else unless I swapped out Laird or Whitfield for him, and I prefer having those 2 at this stage
Hopefully we get HEAPS of fwd rookies, so I can stack my backline and get Lloyd. Outside of Danger, I reckon the there are 5+ defenders that I would prefer over any forward
Agree with everyone here - New rules will assist Lloyd as well but fitting him in at the price is the issue. For me probably a choice between Laird/Lloyd.
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Haven't heard Jake Lloyd's name mentioned once yet...
22 games last year, super high ceiling, and does his average go up with the new kick in rules?
Yeh he'll be worth every bit of his 600k
Maybe, Maybe not. It's hard for a non midfielder to back up a 112 average. Previous high of 87,so not a proven premium.
Starting teams are all about value, points per dollar spent and there are a lot of other options that have more upside relative to starting price.
I remember when Goddard was the most expensive player, available as a defender and it was the best move to not start him. And he was a proven premo.
Aaron Hall...discuss.
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
What's he priced at? He has had the ability to put up some monster possession numbers in the past but if he is mid only and mid 400's he probably isn't worth a second look. If I wanted to take a punt on a North mid possibly churning out premo numbers it's Cunnington, and even then I'm doubtful he cracks increases to more than 105 at best
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What's he priced at? He has had the ability to put up some monster possession numbers in the past but if he is mid only and mid 400's he probably isn't worth a second look. If I wanted to take a punt on a North mid possibly churning out premo numbers it's Cunnington, and even then I'm doubtful he cracks increases to more than 105 at best
389k mid only
The Roos do not score well in SC with their game plan. Until that changes....
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The Roos do not score well in SC with their game plan. Until that changes....
Yep there's only one Norf player I'll be picking.
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
If he was a FWD/MID I'd be pretty tempted but 400K MID not for me
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
If he was a FWD/MID I'd be pretty tempted but 400K MID not for me
Agree, especially when Libba is nearly 100k cheaper
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
If he was a FWD/MID I'd be pretty tempted but 400K MID not for me
Agree, especially when Libba is nearly 100k cheaper
Yep much better value , what do people think about Viney at 449K ?
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
If he was a FWD/MID I'd be pretty tempted but 400K MID not for me
Agree, especially when Libba is nearly 100k cheaper
Yep much better value , what do people think about Viney at 449K ?
Would rather go up to Brayshaw or Oliver, both who I think can be keepers.
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Aaron Hall...discuss.
Fantasy Freako @FantasyFreako
In the #2018AFLProspectus we identified that there was a sameness about the Kangaroos' midfield and they lacked line-breaking pace. Enter Aaron Hall. Hall averaged 113 points in wins in both #SuperCoach and #AFLFantasy between 2015-18 at the Suns.
We all know Hall is a massive downhill skier, but that's a pretty damn impressive stat, and tempting too
If he was a FWD/MID I'd be pretty tempted but 400K MID not for me
Agree, especially when Libba is nearly 100k cheaper
Yep much better value , what do people think about Viney at 449K ?
Would rather go up to Brayshaw or Oliver, both who I think can be keepers.
Fair enough have Oliver in ATM but just a gut feeling about Viney :D
Quote from: Spite on January 19, 2019, 03:41:31 PM
389k mid only
At that price it's a little more tempting. He could be a decent stepping stone and have a big first month and a bit. I don't know if he will be a keeper though and he can frustrate coaches with the fact he doesn't run defensively.
Don’t think you can take Viney as can be used as a ragged, like Jones. Difficulty with Demon mids is that they are getting like the Pies and it’s becoming hard to sort out which mid will score big this week, with so many of them. That’s why I am going to a mid with bigger ceiling and getting it 5-6 times
Yeah Viney is an easy pass for me, not even considering him
At 450k he needs to turn into a keeper, and I can't see him doing that. 95-100avg imo
Quote from: shaker on January 16, 2019, 11:43:55 AM
Thinking about Jroo as a POD I know with Lynch arriving he won't kick as many goals but think he will be released up the ground a lot more , he is a great mark what do people think ? extra marks and possies up the ground will outweigh kicking less goals ?
Worked for Richo a few years ago - he nearly won the Brownlow
There is no chance Lloyd or RGray will be PoD's come rd 1 lockout.
I will not be starting them but many coaches will
Quote from: bowyanger on January 20, 2019, 09:42:37 AM
There is no chance Lloyd or RGray will be PoD's come rd 1 lockout.
I will not be starting them but many coaches will
Agree on Lloyd.
I think in the fwds most will start a combination of Danger, Heeney, Wingard, Buddy (popular cos he's a big name), Greene, Smith. Westhoff could also be popular due to DPP and last year's avg. Gray will be semi unique at least
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
Any chance of him being moved to half back though? I have considered him but may stay away from the Pies mids to start the season...
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
Scoring improved when Treloar went down. He's back and so is Beams. Add Grundy, Pendles, Sidebum and that's a lot of point sharing.
Not a great ceiling.
I'd say Sidebum is your most important mid hence the tag in the GF.
Only one premo season in 2017. Where does the improvement come from?
I do agree he is unlikely to be played fwd.
I just find picking the Pies mid/s that will go 110+ is a tough ask.
I would prefer Treloar or Beams if I had to pick one.
Can't see Adams being anywhere near a Top 10-15 mid, and that's the aim of the game, especially for anyone we pick with a 500k+ price tag
Quote from: ubeaut on January 22, 2019, 09:21:02 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
Scoring improved when Treloar went down. He's back and so is Beams. Add Grundy, Pendles, Sidebum and that's a lot of point sharing.
Not a great ceiling.
I'd say Sidebum is your most important mid hence the tag in the GF.
Only one premo season in 2017. Where does the improvement come from?
I do agree he is unlikely to be played fwd.
I just find picking the Pies mid/s that will go 110+ is a tough ask.
I would prefer Treloar or Beams if I had to pick one.
The one thing he has in his favour is that he’s the superior inside player to all of those guys. Beams doesn’t really add to the inside grunt and if anything we lose some when Sier has to take a seat for beams. For me too, Adams’ improvement in scoring came more from the way Buckley nursed him back after his pre and early season injuries. I’d be pretty certain in saying Adams had the most CBA’s of any Collingwood player during the finals series. Scores during that time speak for themselves.
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
Was thinking about Adams when I saw his price. I then also saw they have Pendles, Treloar, Sidebottom, Beams and Grundy running though there. It's the deepest midfield in the comp and I'm not entirely sure how the points will divvy up. The Pies did have 3 guys over 120 (Swan, Pendles, Sidebottom) in 2012, so 5 guys go 110+ is probably going to happen. If I was going to pick a comp to grab Adams it would by AF/DT just because he is a bit of a butcher.
I thought Worp was gonna be a POD but in 20% of teammss
So many mids with a chance of being a POD though finding it hard early on to pick the right premos in the mid so outside of Cripps,Macrae etc its a mixed bag
Most teams I've been coming up with for myself generally have 13 keepers, with 1 or 2 mid price guys
Well, I decided to see what a POD team would look like
- All premium selections have current ownership of 10% or less
- Rookies are exempt from being POD (for obvious reasons)
15 keepers
(https://i.imgur.com/ueQCcRP.png)
Nothing wrong with that team! Except Gaff wont be in until rd 3 :(
Maybe i'm just very biased but is there anything wrong with starting Dylan Shiel at $487k?
Only 1 season of Shiel being 100+ average would be a concern but in a new environment hopefully getting his shoulders better currently in my side.
Quote from: Gigantor on January 23, 2019, 01:12:35 PM
Nothing wrong with that team! Except Gaff wont be in until rd 3 :(
Oh yeah lol. Ah well he can be replaced by Conigs, Duncan, Bont etc
It's a decent looking side for sure, but not having any of Macrae, Cripps, Fyfe, Grundy, Gawn, Danger, Lloyd, Laird is way too risky haha
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
Maybe i'm just very biased but is there anything wrong with starting Dylan Shiel at $487k?
Disposal efficiency has always been kinda bleh. Clanger numbers have gone up resulting in the drop off as well. He is a nice piece for the Bombers midfield, but I wouldn't think he is SC relevant. He may help Heppell/Merrett more if he does draw a tag but I wouldn't jump on board.
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
Maybe i'm just very biased but is there anything wrong with starting Dylan Shiel at $487k?
Disposal efficiency has always been kinda bleh. Clanger numbers have gone up resulting in the drop off as well. He is a nice piece for the Bombers midfield, but I wouldn't think he is SC relevant. He may help Heppell/Merrett more if he does draw a tag but I wouldn't jump on board.
Given the best kicking efficiency of the 3 gun mids is Zerrett and has shown an inability to cope with a tag I'd think he'd be the first tagged which IMO makes Shiel potentially an attractive option.
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
Maybe i'm just very biased but is there anything wrong with starting Dylan Shiel at $487k?
Disposal efficiency has always been kinda bleh. Clanger numbers have gone up resulting in the drop off as well. He is a nice piece for the Bombers midfield, but I wouldn't think he is SC relevant. He may help Heppell/Merrett more if he does draw a tag but I wouldn't jump on board.
Given the best kicking efficiency of the 3 gun mids is Zerrett and has shown an inability to cope with a tag I'd think he'd be the first tagged which IMO makes Shiel potentially an attractive option.
I'd prefer to go Zerrett, bounce back year, more help, and seemed to figure out how to break the tag in the 2nd half of last year.
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 23, 2019, 04:49:11 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on January 23, 2019, 01:50:24 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 01:15:02 PM
Maybe i'm just very biased but is there anything wrong with starting Dylan Shiel at $487k?
Disposal efficiency has always been kinda bleh. Clanger numbers have gone up resulting in the drop off as well. He is a nice piece for the Bombers midfield, but I wouldn't think he is SC relevant. He may help Heppell/Merrett more if he does draw a tag but I wouldn't jump on board.
Given the best kicking efficiency of the 3 gun mids is Zerrett and has shown an inability to cope with a tag I'd think he'd be the first tagged which IMO makes Shiel potentially an attractive option.
I'd prefer to go Zerrett, bounce back year, more help, and seemed to figure out how to break the tag in the 2nd half of last year.
+1 for Zerrett
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
This, Adams is a gun in a gun team. A few years ago Daisy, Pendles, Sidebum, Swan and Beams were all top tier SC scorers.
Only difference is this year Grundy is in the mix and Daisy is out.
Pendles potentially drops in output this year, I can see Adams being a good selection and am strongly considering Adams to get off the leash
A few years ago everyone had Enright, Ablett, Selwood, Bartel, Kelly & Chappy in their sights from the 1 team
Any thoughts on Jordan De Goey ?
Love watching him play and see building on last year
POD but the price??
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 23, 2019, 01:06:22 PM
Most teams I've been coming up with for myself generally have 13 keepers, with 1 or 2 mid price guys
Well, I decided to see what a POD team would look like
- All premium selections have current ownership of 10% or less
- Rookies are exempt from being POD (for obvious reasons)
15 keepers
(https://i.imgur.com/ueQCcRP.png)
Like Hurley … a few other players have had an interrupted pre season such as Franks, Zerrett & Treloar...players you have coughed up for
Im never going Franks again even if he scores 150+ for the first 5 rounds
You have to give yourself the best possible chance to pick the best
Those that have interrupted pre seasons are not going to be as fit and focussed as those that have been working hard since September to be someone
Its the little 1%ers that count not just for players , but supercoaches as well to give yourself the best possible chance at success
Ive played some footy back in the day and a full pre season going into rd 1 gives you a massive edge over those that havnt
Quote from: RoughRed on January 23, 2019, 09:08:47 PM
Any thoughts on Jordan De Goey ?
Love watching him play and see building on last year
POD but the price??
Modified programme
Will potentially score less due to relatively healthy list and addition of Beams...….
Expect him to slay fwd most of the year
If he had a full pre season Id be there, the fellah is all class and wouldnt surprise me to increase output but is a big gamble IMO
Quote from: RoughRed on January 23, 2019, 09:08:47 PM
Any thoughts on Jordan De Goey ?
Love watching him play and see building on last year
POD but the price??
Imo would stay away, will probably spend more time FWD this season.
Taranto or Hopper if ya like spice.
Did my 1st 5 min team selection from research ...I have a lot of other notes to consider but have included at this stage as potential mid priced breakouts:
Witherden, H.Clarke, AMcgrath, Ross, McCluggage, Dunkley, Boak, Billings & Himmelberg
Quote from: Nige on January 23, 2019, 09:23:31 PM
Taranto or Hopper if ya like spice.
Taranto, more consistent and has a higher ceiling.
Quote from: TommyC on January 23, 2019, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on January 23, 2019, 09:23:31 PM
Taranto or Hopper if ya like spice.
Taranto, more consistent and has a higher ceiling.
Taranto would probably be my choice for breakout contender this year
Don't have the balls to start him, but he'd be my pick to become a true prem mid this year
Quote from: bowyanger on January 23, 2019, 09:00:25 PM
Quote from: fasttrack13 on January 22, 2019, 09:04:38 PM
Taylor Adams 524k, right now my best POD...
- Finish to 2018 was clinical and would have him a top 10 mid with ease.
- Less likely to be moved from the midfield that all other Collingwood player mid with beams inclusion (lacks goal kicking power)
- Easily our most important midfielder.
- As far as I know full pre season thus far.
Thoughts?
This, Adams is a gun in a gun team. A few years ago Daisy, Pendles, Sidebum, Swan and Beams were all top tier SC scorers.
Only difference is this year Grundy is in the mix and Daisy is out.
Pendles potentially drops in output this year, I can see Adams being a good selection and am strongly considering Adams to get off the leash
A few years ago everyone had Enright, Ablett, Selwood, Bartel, Kelly & Chappy in their sights from the 1 team
Adams has had one premo year in 2017 and went backwards 12 points in 2018.
His high scoring end of season coincided with Treloar out and now Beams is back as well.
The difference with those Geelong guns is Bartel, Chapman, Enright were usually available as defs/fwds so 95-100 was OK. Whereas Sidey, Adams, Pendles, Beams, Treloar all mid only.
It's not like Adams is deprived of touches because he still racks up 27-28 per game. 4th in the league for clangers per match says it all really, not clean or damaging enough to be a supercoach premium.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 22, 2019, 09:32:31 PM
Can't see Adams being anywhere near a Top 10-15 mid, and that's the aim of the game, especially for anyone we pick with a 500k+ price tag
Quote from: AaronKirk on January 23, 2019, 04:46:27 PM
Given the best kicking efficiency of the 3 gun mids is Zerrett and has shown an inability to cope with a tag I'd think he'd be the first tagged which IMO makes Shiel potentially an attractive option.
This really hurts me to say it as much as I hate the Dons, Zach Merrett is quite possibly the best field kick in the AFL right now, especially anything in that short to intermediate range. Agreed you would probably send your best tagger to him, but I still don't think that makes Shiel a 105 guy.
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 23, 2019, 09:50:07 PM
Quote from: TommyC on January 23, 2019, 09:32:04 PM
Quote from: Nige on January 23, 2019, 09:23:31 PM
Taranto or Hopper if ya like spice.
Taranto, more consistent and has a higher ceiling.
Taranto would probably be my choice for breakout contender this year
Don't have the balls to start him, but he'd be my pick to become a true prem mid this year
Expecting these two to step up and fill the void left by Shiel don't think I'd pick Hopper but will be keeping a close eye on Taranto in JLT , I would have to agree he could be the player that goes the big breakout this year RD.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
I think Zerrett will cop the tag because he couldnt deal with it last season and opposition team know this.
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality
Quote from: frenzy on January 24, 2019, 10:27:51 AM
I think Zerrett will cop the tag because he couldnt deal with it last season and opposition team know this.
Late in the season he was tagged by:
Round 14 WC (Hutchings) - 112pts
Round 18 Freo (Banfield) - 123pts
Round 19 Syd (Hewett) - 114pts
So he got better as the year went on.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality
Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?
Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality
Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?
Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?
Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 11:37:15 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 10:37:31 AM
Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality
Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?
Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?
Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce
Maybe the numbers show that you get a better overall result tagging Shiel over Kelly
Its like teams tagging Jelwood not Danger
Quote from: jvalles69 on January 24, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: frenzy on January 24, 2019, 10:27:51 AM
I think Zerrett will cop the tag because he couldnt deal with it last season and opposition team know this.
Late in the season he was tagged by:
Round 14 WC (Hutchings) - 112pts
Round 18 Freo (Banfield) - 123pts
Round 19 Syd (Hewett) - 114pts
So he got better as the year went on.
yep, Quality player at a nice price, but I still reckon the tag will go to him not Shiel.
Quote from: Gigantor on January 24, 2019, 12:08:19 PM
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Quote from: GoLions on January 24, 2019, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 24, 2019, 08:21:04 AM
Shiel is probably one of the most overrated players in the game. I say that, in that he is a good player, but the media and commentators pump him up way too much and really overrate him, so I wouldn't be surprised if the tag goes to him and Zerrett only benefits
I don't think many teams will tag someone just because the media/commentators say so aha
LOL, it's not because the media/commentators say so - it's because years of talking him up has made him a much more rated player that what he actually is in reality
Are you saying that with all the data and footage available to teams to analyse the opposition, clubs are tagging Shiel based on hype?
Well why were they tagging him and not Kelly, who is clearly the better and more damaging player?
Shiel's a very good player, but I just think he is overrated. Overrated doesn't mean you're shower - it simply means you are rated higher than what you actually produce
Maybe the numbers show that you get a better overall result tagging Shiel over Kelly
Its like teams tagging Jelwood not Danger
It's more that Shiel has been around longer, and Kelly only broke out in 2017.
Teams started tagging Kelly instead last year. The 2 times that Shiel copped it were when Kelly wasn't playing(r8)or got injured(EF).
Kelly is good but he's not Dangerfield just yet.
Blakely has "severely torn his hamstring" RIP good pods.
May never eventuate but I really like Tim English. Going to be a star player and with Trengove settling down back, Campbell going to North and Roughead going to the Pies the stage is set for English (having had another pre-season under the belt) to really take that #1 mantle and make it his for the next decade. The Doggies would know that both Freo and WC (especially) would be hammering the door down to bring him home, so this is their big chance to load him up with games and tie him down long term.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 14, 2019, 11:06:18 PM
Callan Ward is an interesting one. Shiel, Griff, Scully all gone and Ward is a proven 105 mid with a 112 season to his name too. Tough as nails and doesn't miss many games. Seriously looking at him as a true POD
Love this RD. I had my eyes on him and bumped him up my draft ranks when Shiel left. I think he's capped around 105 these days, Kelly and Conigs have established themselves as genuine A-Graders that can play inside and outside while Taranto and Hopper are not going to be far behind imo. Whilst I think he's certainly a chance for a bump, I would not be shocked to see him drop into that 105-110 range and sit there. Is that enough to make it into your final midfield? Is he cheap enough to warrant selecting as a value pick and burning a trade on later in the season.
Good for your drafts but I probably wouldn't do it in salary cap. Great pickup though
Completely agree Ele, re Ward. You know what you'll get with him, but probably not cheap enough to start and probably won't finish high enough
As for English, you're right in that R1 is his for the taking, but geez it'd be ballsy starting him
If English and Fort both line up Round 1, who would be tempted to do English R2 Fort R3?
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
Yup, 100 averaging forward seems like a no brainer. 3 years of basically 100, probably not a big name so he won't draw the attention of someone like Buddy at the same price. I was hesitant at first starting Danger and thinking about bye weeks down the track. He does have the same bye as Heeney as well and I think a lot of teams are sold on having those two guys in their side from the get go.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol
Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol
Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc
I've got third degree burns the last four seasons in a row trying to pick value, I'd kill for someone that's just going to score what I need them too haha
Quote from: elephants on January 28, 2019, 06:26:31 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 28, 2019, 06:15:11 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on January 28, 2019, 06:08:36 PM
Anyone else considering starting Menegola, only in 1% of teams at the moment. His last three seasons have been:
2016 6 99.3
2017 19 100.4
2018 22 100.0
You'd think he'd be a much more popular choice, but there's just something about him that's boring lol
Theres zero value in him. You'll pay for a 100 avg and that's what he will do. I like him as a sneaky 105 chance with Ablett spending more time fwd but hes probably a lock for 95-102 and that's why he's not an exciting selection vs Danger, Smith, Heeney etc
The value in Menegola is that he's a POD. He's in my team because he's a reliable forward who will score 100 avg and be a POD. Pretty incredible offer if you ask me.
Agree with both of you fellas, I'll struggle to not pick him this year. Just constantly delivers and will be in the top handful of forwards again.
Looking over his numbers, Menegola might just be the Kade Simpson of the forward line
We know he'll be in the Top group, yet most of us won't pick them
Sounds crazy doesn't it?
Flower it, I'm going to try and fit this bloke in!
Thing with Menegola is that he’s so frustrating to own, goes 60 then 130 then 55 then 80 then 3 straights tons ahahah
Menegola's definitely an odd one. As others as said, he's just a straight up vanilla pick but you know what you're getting and that's actually gold, especially when you consider he's more than likely a POD.
Not sure I'll be picking him though.
For me, the one I'm seriously looking at is TJ Lynch. Probably a bit of Tiger bias, but I genuinely think he's an extremely good chance to average 90.
2014 22 83.2
2015 20 88.3
2016 22 93.2
2017 19 85.1
He's done that in the past and is now in a better team, I think he needs to be considered.
Lynch hasn't had a preseason & is unlikely to play round 1.
Quote from: Bully on January 28, 2019, 10:11:26 PM
Lynch hasn't had a preseason & is unlikely to play round 1.
Yeah, I'm aware of this, it's more of a hopeful, best case scenario kind of thing.
I still think he's one to monitor regardless.
Quote from: Nige on January 28, 2019, 10:13:44 PM
Quote from: Bully on January 28, 2019, 10:11:26 PM
Lynch hasn't had a preseason & is unlikely to play round 1.
Yeah, I'm aware of this, it's more of a hopeful, best case scenario kind of thing.
I still think he's one to monitor regardless.
Can't pick him based off this preseason. If anything, maybe look to bring him in as an upgrade target if he warrants it
I had a look at Menegola, but he's just too boring haha. Also, I think he is priced at max value, where as there are some guys priced 5-10ppg cheaper who I think can push 100 this year too, so that's probably the main reason he has low ownership
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Geez. That is enticing.
Danger and Heeney are locked for me but Smith could easily turn into Mengola.
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Can't just pick the stat that looks best to sell your point
He also had 8 scores under 80 last year
If he didn't finish the year as strong as he did - from Round 1 - 17 his average was 93.75
There's other guys I'd rather who should match his 100 avg, without putting in so many sub 80 scores and being the rollercoaster he is
Gus Brayshaw and Jack Billings fit in here.
Also Hugh McCluggage is the big one which I'm still working up the courage to pick.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Can't just pick the stat that looks best to sell your point
He also had 8 scores under 80 last year
If he didn't finish the year as strong as he did - from Round 1 - 17 his average was 93.75
There's other guys I'd rather who should match his 100 avg, without putting in so many sub 80 scores and being the rollercoaster he is
Which means he'll be 100k cheaper at some stage in the year.
Quote from: Bully on January 29, 2019, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Can't just pick the stat that looks best to sell your point
He also had 8 scores under 80 last year
If he didn't finish the year as strong as he did - from Round 1 - 17 his average was 93.75
There's other guys I'd rather who should match his 100 avg, without putting in so many sub 80 scores and being the rollercoaster he is
Which means he'll be 100k cheaper at some stage in the year.
Depends when they happen. If he goes 120/80/120/80 etc then he wont drop much :p
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2019, 12:24:06 PM
Quote from: Bully on January 29, 2019, 12:19:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on January 29, 2019, 10:19:01 AM
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
Can't just pick the stat that looks best to sell your point
He also had 8 scores under 80 last year
If he didn't finish the year as strong as he did - from Round 1 - 17 his average was 93.75
There's other guys I'd rather who should match his 100 avg, without putting in so many sub 80 scores and being the rollercoaster he is
Which means he'll be 100k cheaper at some stage in the year.
Depends when they happen. If he goes 120/80/120/80 etc then he wont drop much :p
Yeah, depends obviously
Last year he started at 551k. It took until Round 10 for him to drop to 498k, and then he spent the next 10 weeks floating between 498-440k, so you can certainly get him cheaper, but it's the when that is unknown
Either way, I see no need to start him
Quote from: Nige on January 29, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Gus Brayshaw and Jack Billings fit in here.
Also Hugh McCluggage is the big one which I'm still working up the courage to pick.
;D Ed Langdon when I grow some pills.
Quote from: frenzy on January 29, 2019, 01:04:03 PM
Quote from: Nige on January 29, 2019, 12:00:03 PM
Gus Brayshaw and Jack Billings fit in here.
Also Hugh McCluggage is the big one which I'm still working up the courage to pick.
;D Ed Langdon when I grow some pills.
Good shout, I rate him.
Quote from: _wato on January 29, 2019, 08:40:48 AM
117 average in the last 6 weeks for Menegola.
Could say he’s underpriced. I’m locking him in again. Find me a forward who went 110+ 11/22 games.
I keep wanting to say there is more midfield time up for grabs next season but there simply isn't. Gaz probably spending 20% time more fwd but Danger has trimmed down to play more midfield and Parfitt and Cockatoo have been touted as getting more time on ball to add a new dimension to the Cats one-paced midfield. Still can't see much else from Menegola other than that flat 100 he's so well known for these days. Premo fwd for sure but probably see him limited to that
Dunkley and TKelly are a couple of interesting ones up forward I think. Both should be playing predominantly midfield.
Quote from: SilverLion on January 30, 2019, 09:48:37 AM
Dunkley and TKelly are a couple of interesting ones up forward I think. Both should be playing predominantly midfield.
If we get confirmation that Dunkley is now a midfielder he is a must-have imo. Could go 105+ for sure. All depends on their midfield mix with Libba back and McLean fit again
Dunkley's second half of last year was better than Libba has been since 2014 and better than McLean has ever been. Would be seriously surprised if he's sent back to the forward line for those two.
One from left field, far left field.....
The tomahawk....?
Anyone think the new zone rule will be a huge help to the big marking forwards? Less chance of being double teamed and the third man coming over top with the spoil. Potentially quicker and cleaner exits from centre bounces.
Tonnes up 10 times last year, six of which were 120+.
90’s 3 times.
Would take a big set of cohunas!
How does everyone feel about Jordan De Goey this season?
Quote from: IntegralX on January 30, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
How does everyone feel about Jordan De Goey this season?
He will do good when he kicks a few goals but with all there mids can't see him getting much of a look in downfield.
Quote from: shaker on January 30, 2019, 04:56:04 PM
Quote from: IntegralX on January 30, 2019, 04:09:11 PM
How does everyone feel about Jordan De Goey this season?
He will do good when he kicks a few goals but with all there mids can't see him getting much of a look in downfield.
Yep. Reckon he will need 3 or 4 goals to ton up.
125+ replies about different POD's and all sorts of names being thrown up, but who is committed to picking their POD's?
Let's say a POD is anyone with an ownership of 10% or less
Who are going with for sure, that fits that?
Quote from: Southstorm on January 30, 2019, 10:29:59 AM
Dunkley's second half of last year was better than Libba has been since 2014 and better than McLean has ever been. Would be seriously surprised if he's sent back to the forward line for those two.
Dunkley might be better there but Libba can't play anywhere else so it's about team structure and balance as well.
Same reason Collingwood are going to have to find different positions and roles for their mids. Pendles is still in their top 3 mids but he's suited to other positions more than the other guys so he might have to play across half back or half forward
I thought Libba was a wingman and not midfield, but I could be wrong.
Buddy only 4%? Averaged 100 and didn't even train for most of the year did he?
Quote from: Big Mac on January 31, 2019, 09:47:51 PM
Buddy only 4%? Averaged 100 and didn't even train for most of the year did he?
Can get him cheaper during the year.
Quote from: frenzy on January 31, 2019, 09:41:18 PM
I thought Libba was a wingman and not midfield, but I could be wrong.
???
100% inside mid
Quote from: Big Mac on January 31, 2019, 09:47:51 PM
Buddy only 4%? Averaged 100 and didn't even train for most of the year did he?
Racing the clock to be ready by Round 1 - never a good sign, and as SL said will drop in value at some point
Dew on Jack Martin
"He's got really fit, so we'd love to play him in the midfield a fair bit. We know he can play forward and hit the scoreboard, but I think Jack is hungry for a bit more responsibility."
This kid was touted as being one of the greatest players ever when he was a junior. Could he completely break out as a mid this year?
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2019, 10:05:00 AM
Dew on Jack Martin
"He's got really fit, so we'd love to play him in the midfield a fair bit. We know he can play forward and hit the scoreboard, but I think Jack is hungry for a bit more responsibility."
This kid was touted as being one of the greatest players ever when he was a junior. Could he completely break out as a mid this year?
Finally. It's a shame GC will probably only win 2 games this season, probably limits his output. Could definitely push to 90s range which is handy for a fwd!
I hope i finally stick with my head this year and pick the best POD of all.
Not having any PODs
Quote from: Holz on February 01, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
I hope i finally stick with my head this year and pick the best POD of all.
Not having any PODs
You realise a POD is just based on ownership %? We're not talking breakout contenders
Menegola as a forward is a POD
Yeo/Gaff as mids are POD's
Simpson as a defender is a POD
Nothing wrong with picking them as POD's
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2019, 11:09:32 AM
Quote from: Holz on February 01, 2019, 11:05:35 AM
I hope i finally stick with my head this year and pick the best POD of all.
Not having any PODs
You realise a POD is just based on ownership %? We're not talking breakout contenders
Menegola as a forward is a POD
Yeo/Gaff as mids are POD's
Simpson as a defender is a POD
Nothing wrong with picking them as POD's
I do realise that.
I cant see any benefit of those guys over
Heeney
Crouch
LLoyd
just picking guys from the non POD list i think picks a pretty solid team.
Laird Whitfield Lloyd Williams Collins Quaynor
Cripps Fyfe Dmart Kelly Walsh Bewley Hind Valentene
Grundy Gawn
Danger Heeney Smith Greene Setterfield Cavara
every guy on that list is 20% or greater.
Menegola over Heeney is a POD. If Menegola beats Heeney by alot then you lose ground on the 3% of players that have Menegola.
If you have Menegola and Heeney smashes him then you lose ground on 37% of the comp.
I tend to think a good ranking is not done by making unique POD moves like picking the break out. Its more about timing of trades and making money, wasting trades on injuries and underpeformers is much more costly on PODs then it is on common players.
If Dangerfield gets injured on 5 and i need to trade him out i dont really care as basically the whole comp gets hit. If Menegola gets injured on 5 you will fall behind.
You realise Crouch is in fact a POD right? ;D
But yes, it's all about how you trade and the luck you get that decides your result
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 01, 2019, 12:33:05 PM
You realise Crouch is in fact a POD right? ;D
But yes, it's all about how you trade and the luck you get that decides your result
yeah Crouch had abit lower ownership then i expected.
I think he would be not too rare amongst top coaches though.
Kelly would have been a better example.
my point of a POD going down being more of an issue still stands
it really comes down to this are you trying to win or trying not to lose.
I generally think being successful in fantasy is more avoiding injuries and under performing players then making great picks.
just looked at the ownership numbers from last year at about this time and where named round 1.
Laird, Yeo, Hibberd, Hurley, Lloyd, Simpson - besides Hurley you did really well with these guys
Fyfe, Dmart, Titch, Cripps Kelly, Congilio - fyfe kelly got injured but scored well, Dusty a let down but started well
Gawn, NN - Gawn was amazing and NN was reasonable before injury
Heeney Petracca Gray Dahl - this line there was only 4 guys over 15% 2 of which where good, 2 failed hard
if you started with the right 13 very common premos and filled it with rookies you probably would have ranked extremely high.
Laird Yeo Lloyd Simpson
Titch Fyfe Cripps Kelly Conigs
Gawn NN
Heeney Gray
thats 13 out of 18 players that fit into the category of top 6 popular premos over 15% owenrship.
So for this year its
Laird Whitfield Lloyd Williams Sicily Witherden
Cripps Fyfe Dmart Kelly Macrae Oliver
Grundy Gawn
Danger Heeney Smith Wingard
Salary c(r)ap is all about cookie cutter imo. PODs generally lead to you losing more than you win when a popular player goes awf.
If you are all about PODs play draft where every player is a POD
Quote from: elephants on February 01, 2019, 02:55:45 PM
Salary c(r)ap is all about cookie cutter imo. PODs generally lead to you losing more than you win when a popular player goes awf.
If you are all about PODs play draft where every player is a POD
Man after my own heart.
There is a guy at around 470k in 3% of teams mid/fwd who if you take out the game he got injured in last year averaged 92.
One i am watching closely to see how his coach uses him in the practice matches. If more midfield time looms this season he will probably be in my starting forward line.
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 02, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
There is a guy at around 470k in 3% of teams mid/fwd who if you take out the game he got injured in last year averaged 92.
One i am watching closely to see how his coach uses him in the practice matches. If more midfield time looms this season he will probably be in my starting forward line.
Walters? Surely he's a candidate for midfield minutes like he was last year, maybe more so. No Neale no Blakely. I started him last year and was averaging 100 before injury.
Thought he'd be more popular but no one's mentioned him till now. Probably the injury risk, brain fades and Ross factors.
Quote from: ubeaut on February 02, 2019, 09:41:46 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 02, 2019, 09:27:25 PM
There is a guy at around 470k in 3% of teams mid/fwd who if you take out the game he got injured in last year averaged 92.
One i am watching closely to see how his coach uses him in the practice matches. If more midfield time looms this season he will probably be in my starting forward line.
Walters? Surely he's a candidate for midfield minutes like he was last year, maybe more so. No Neale no Blakely. I started him last year and was averaging 100 before injury.
Thought he'd be more popular but no one's mentioned him till now. Probably the injury risk, brain fades and Ross factors.
Shh... He is one to keep an eye on.
LOL AK, if you're going to be that specific you might as well just name him straight up :P
Never had Walters, never will. Just can't trust him to stay on the park and there isn't enough upside to risk it
Walters in my team again, like he always is and it has been to my detriment mainly. Such a good player though
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
LOL AK, if you're going to be that specific you might as well just name him straight up :P
Never had Walters, never will. Just can't trust him to stay on the park and there isn't enough upside to risk it
Brain power not working the best given i've had a sinus infection for over 2 weeks and am on antibiotics.
Freo need some experienced players to take up the slack in the midfield given Neale has left and Blakely is injured. A fit Walters could fill that gap. Could he improve from a 92 average (take out his injured game from last year) to 95 or more? Very possible.
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 03, 2019, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
LOL AK, if you're going to be that specific you might as well just name him straight up :P
Never had Walters, never will. Just can't trust him to stay on the park and there isn't enough upside to risk it
Brain power not working the best given i've had a sinus infection for over 2 weeks and am on antibiotics.
Freo need some experienced players to take up the slack in the midfield given Neale has left and Blakely is injured. A fit Walters could fill that gap. Could he improve from a 92 average (take out his injured game from last year) to 95 or more? Very possible.
Yeah, I don't have any real concerns over his ability to score and the current situation that should see him in the mids, it's just his ability to stay on the park week in week out that I don't trust yet
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 03, 2019, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
LOL AK, if you're going to be that specific you might as well just name him straight up :P
Never had Walters, never will. Just can't trust him to stay on the park and there isn't enough upside to risk it
Brain power not working the best given i've had a sinus infection for over 2 weeks and am on antibiotics.
Freo need some experienced players to take up the slack in the midfield given Neale has left and Blakely is injured. A fit Walters could fill that gap. Could he improve from a 92 average (take out his injured game from last year) to 95 or more? Very possible.
I've always had 2 issues with Walters.
Injury history. Has missed 9 game across the past 2 seasons with a couple of stinking low scores due to injury/carrying niggles.
Role. Should be playing midfield a lot more than he does imo but without him in the forward line Freo can really struggle to make things happen and kick a score.
I'm thinking with Hogan and Lobb coming in and Switkowski having a good preseason to date, there's definite scope for him to move into a bigger midfield role to support the kids coming through.
If he plays full time midfield he averages 100. Hot take but thats what we're all about 8)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 03, 2019, 08:28:34 PM
Quote from: AaronKirk on February 03, 2019, 08:20:05 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 02, 2019, 11:37:53 PM
LOL AK, if you're going to be that specific you might as well just name him straight up :P
Never had Walters, never will. Just can't trust him to stay on the park and there isn't enough upside to risk it
Brain power not working the best given i've had a sinus infection for over 2 weeks and am on antibiotics.
Freo need some experienced players to take up the slack in the midfield given Neale has left and Blakely is injured. A fit Walters could fill that gap. Could he improve from a 92 average (take out his injured game from last year) to 95 or more? Very possible.
Yeah, I don't have any real concerns over his ability to score and the current situation that should see him in the mids, it's just his ability to stay on the park week in week out that I don't trust yet
Basically this. Had him in my team for a bit but took him out pretty soon after cause I can't trust him to stay on the park all year. Maybe wait for that inevitable injury and pick him up on the cheap eh
I have changed my side a little because my "premos" was looking too much like other sides.
So at this early stage I have changed Witherden to Salem and Gray to Billings
Quote from: Fid on February 03, 2019, 09:25:11 PM
I have changed my side a little because my "premos" was looking too much like other sides.
So at this early stage I have changed Witherden to Salem and Gray to Billings
:o
Quote from: Fid on February 03, 2019, 09:25:11 PM
I have changed my side a little because my "premos" was looking too much like other sides.
So at this early stage I have changed Witherden to Salem and Gray to Billings
I assume you did something else as well after dropping 2 premos from your team?
Jack Martin, Jack Billings and Jade Gresham all tempting me. I Feel like 1 is going to break out and my money is on Martin after hearing Dew speak about his pre season and fact he will be playing in the midfield this year
Quote from: quinny88 on February 03, 2019, 11:57:05 PM
Jack Martin, Jack Billings and Jade Gresham all tempting me. I Feel like 1 is going to break out and my money is on Martin after hearing Dew speak about his pre season and fact he will be playing in the midfield this year
thats probably correct, 1 of the 3 will likely turn out to be a good pick and the other 2 disappoint. Is it worth taking a punt on a 33% chance though.
I am also tossing up between Martin and Dahlhaus at F4 if I need to strengthen other lines. Dahlhaus at Geelomg is really tempting if he can back to pre 2018 form.
Quote from: Ringo on February 04, 2019, 10:45:00 AM
I am also tossing up between Martin and Dahlhaus at F4 if I need to strengthen other lines. Dahlhaus at Geelomg is really tempting if he can back to pre 2018 form.
I'm very sure Dahl has been recruited to play fwd at Geelong mate. I'd be going Jmart over him every day of the week
I feel like taking these shots (to save cash) are better off done in the mids, or even def
Eg/ You could start Billings/Martin/Lynch over Dunkley/Gray/Heeney etc and save 80-100k or you could start Sloane/Merrett/Crouch etc over Oliver/Kelly/Neale for a similar saving, however I'd think the cheaper mids are much better chances of getting close to the higher priced ones, than the cheaper forwards are to the higher forwards
Even down back, you could start Ryan/Witherden/Williams etc over Whitfield/Simmo/Lloyd etc and they should probaby go closer
Point being, forward line is a line I wouldn't be looking for breakout contenders in. A fit Greene was the only one I'd consider - other than that it's all the 480k+ guys
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
I feel like taking these shots (to save cash) are better off done in the mids, or even def
Eg/ You could start Billings/Martin/Lynch over Dunkley/Gray/Heeney etc and save 80-100k or you could start Sloane/Merrett/Crouch etc over Oliver/Kelly/Neale for a similar saving, however I'd think the cheaper mids are much better chances of getting close to the higher priced ones, than the cheaper forwards are to the higher forwards
Even down back, you could start Ryan/Witherden/Williams etc over Whitfield/Simmo/Lloyd etc and they should probaby go closer
Point being, forward line is a line I wouldn't be looking for breakout contenders in. A fit Greene was the only one I'd consider - other than that it's all the 480k+ guys
You’re not necessarily looking for breakouts though. Billings averaged low 90s after coming back into the team last year. He was used more in the mids then, and not as much in that useless fwd role - not bad for $430k. If he maintained that output, he’d be worth a F6 or swing benchman in your final team I reckon, as he has a high ceiling.
Quote from: js19 on February 04, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
You’re not necessarily looking for breakouts though. Billings averaged low 90s after coming back into the team last year. He was used more in the mids then, and not as much in that useless fwd role - not bad for $430k. If he maintained that output, he’d be worth a F6 or swing benchman in your final team I reckon, as he has a high ceiling.
Fair point. The Saints are probably the hardest team for me to figure out who'll be their best SC scorers though, so that probably plays a big part in me not wanting to start any of them.
You might save 50-80k by starting them, but is that enough? They could easily end up as 80ish averaging forwards who won't be good enough, but you'll have so many other things to deal with you'll be stuck with them. They really need to pay off and smash 90+
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: js19 on February 04, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
You’re not necessarily looking for breakouts though. Billings averaged low 90s after coming back into the team last year. He was used more in the mids then, and not as much in that useless fwd role - not bad for $430k. If he maintained that output, he’d be worth a F6 or swing benchman in your final team I reckon, as he has a high ceiling.
Fair point. The Saints are probably the hardest team for me to figure out who'll be their best SC scorers though, so that probably plays a big part in me not wanting to start any of them.
You might save 50-80k by starting them, but is that enough? They could easily end up as 80ish averaging forwards who won't be good enough, but you'll have so many other things to deal with you'll be stuck with them. They really need to pay off and smash 90+
Acres is the only Saint FWD I'm looking at he was going at an avg. of 106 after 5 rounds then things went pear shaped , scored 76 Rd 6 missed R7 back R8 for 84 then that was it till R19 so I'm guessing his injury problems started R6 , reckon he has what it takes to have a breakout year and will be interested to see his role JLT.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: js19 on February 04, 2019, 11:15:35 AM
You’re not necessarily looking for breakouts though. Billings averaged low 90s after coming back into the team last year. He was used more in the mids then, and not as much in that useless fwd role - not bad for $430k. If he maintained that output, he’d be worth a F6 or swing benchman in your final team I reckon, as he has a high ceiling.
Fair point. The Saints are probably the hardest team for me to figure out who'll be their best SC scorers though, so that probably plays a big part in me not wanting to start any of them.
You might save 50-80k by starting them, but is that enough? They could easily end up as 80ish averaging forwards who won't be good enough, but you'll have so many other things to deal with you'll be stuck with them. They really need to pay off and smash 90+
Yeah, that’s the risk. I guess it comes down to rookies in the end for me. If the savings allow you to pick a Rozee etc, as cheepos don’t get a game it’s a risk/reward scenario. A Gray/117k combo vs Billings/Rozee? The money has to come from somewhere.
For me, it makes it a bit more fun if there are more options that can be successful than the cookie cutters, and there are a lot of potential value picks this year.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
I feel like taking these shots (to save cash) are better off done in the mids, or even def
Eg/ You could start Billings/Martin/Lynch over Dunkley/Gray/Heeney etc and save 80-100k or you could start Sloane/Merrett/Crouch etc over Oliver/Kelly/Neale for a similar saving, however I'd think the cheaper mids are much better chances of getting close to the higher priced ones, than the cheaper forwards are to the higher forwards
Even down back, you could start Ryan/Witherden/Williams etc over Whitfield/Simmo/Lloyd etc and they should probaby go closer
Point being, forward line is a line I wouldn't be looking for breakout contenders in. A fit Greene was the only one I'd consider - other than that it's all the 480k+ guys
I'm not so sure about that. The forward line has become the worst scoring line so even if they don't star and only average 85 you're still only 10 points off the promo forwards. If you get a defender wrong they could be 15-20 points off the pace
Quote from: quinny88 on February 04, 2019, 02:41:13 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 04, 2019, 11:10:57 AM
I feel like taking these shots (to save cash) are better off done in the mids, or even def
Eg/ You could start Billings/Martin/Lynch over Dunkley/Gray/Heeney etc and save 80-100k or you could start Sloane/Merrett/Crouch etc over Oliver/Kelly/Neale for a similar saving, however I'd think the cheaper mids are much better chances of getting close to the higher priced ones, than the cheaper forwards are to the higher forwards
Even down back, you could start Ryan/Witherden/Williams etc over Whitfield/Simmo/Lloyd etc and they should probaby go closer
Point being, forward line is a line I wouldn't be looking for breakout contenders in. A fit Greene was the only one I'd consider - other than that it's all the 480k+ guys
I'm not so sure about that. The forward line has become the worst scoring line so even if they don't star and only average 85 you're still only 10 points off the promo forwards. If you get a defender wrong they could be 15-20 points off the pace
Yeah that's a good point actually
Still, I'd hate to be stuck with a forward averaging 85 though, which is why I guess I prefer to play it safe and pay up for the guys I have more faith in
Don’t know whether he’s been discussed already but I’m liking Angus Brayshaw as a POD.
Reckon he can take the next step in SC this season and become a premium MID.
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 01:12:28 AM
Don’t know whether he’s been discussed already but I’m liking Angus Brayshaw as a POD.
Reckon he can take the next step in SC this season and become a premium MID.
Unless you think he's set to explode I just don't see any value there at all.
He's not discounted, has a horrible injury history and is only 20-30k cheaper than proven guns like Merrett and Matt Crouch and costs more than other proven premos like Zorko and Sloane
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Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 01:12:28 AM
Don’t know whether he’s been discussed already but I’m liking Angus Brayshaw as a POD.
Reckon he can take the next step in SC this season and become a premium MID.
Unless you think he's set to explode I just don't see any value there at all.
He's not discounted, has a horrible injury history and is only 20-30k cheaper than proven guns like Merrett and Matt Crouch and costs more than other proven premos like Zorko and Sloane
I think he’s set to explode and will average more than Merrett, Crouch, Zorko and Sloane.
The injury history is almost all due to concussions, he has the helmet now and has learnt how to protect his head in the contest.
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 05, 2019, 03:28:51 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 01:12:28 AM
Don’t know whether he’s been discussed already but I’m liking Angus Brayshaw as a POD.
Reckon he can take the next step in SC this season and become a premium MID.
Unless you think he's set to explode I just don't see any value there at all.
He's not discounted, has a horrible injury history and is only 20-30k cheaper than proven guns like Merrett and Matt Crouch and costs more than other proven premos like Zorko and Sloane
I think he’s set to explode and will average more than Merrett, Crouch, Zorko and Sloane.
The injury history is almost all due to concussions, he has the helmet now and has learnt how to protect his head in the contest.
One more freak concussion and he's out of the game for a month and his future will be in question. I admire your nurries mate, I wouldn't do it personally but good on you for having a crack!
Re Brayshaw
For all his dominance end of last year he had a high score of 126. 5 scores of 115 and 116.
Not good enough for me.
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 08:03:49 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 05, 2019, 03:28:51 AM
Quote from: ben_020285 on February 05, 2019, 01:12:28 AM
Don’t know whether he’s been discussed already but I’m liking Angus Brayshaw as a POD.
Reckon he can take the next step in SC this season and become a premium MID.
Unless you think he's set to explode I just don't see any value there at all.
He's not discounted, has a horrible injury history and is only 20-30k cheaper than proven guns like Merrett and Matt Crouch and costs more than other proven premos like Zorko and Sloane
I think he’s set to explode and will average more than Merrett, Crouch, Zorko and Sloane.
The injury history is almost all due to concussions, he has the helmet now and has learnt how to protect his head in the contest.
Then go for it! I'm not as confident though
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Re Brayshaw
For all his dominance end of last year he had a high score of 126. 5 scores of 115 and 116.
Not good enough for me.
If only the helmet got extra SC points like it does Brownlow votes
Yeah imo last year was his 'explosion', very much doubt he's going to improve again this year
I'd expect a similar output
Loving the Aaron Hall chats. Agreed he is a downhill skier.
But with the move to North i feel there is an argument of enough tough nits for Aaron Hall to exceed. Hes a great kick with speed. Him and Polec will be tearimg it up. At 389k he has potential to ave 100 to 120. Does that sway anyone opinion?
Quote from: TableKing on February 05, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
Loving the Aaron Hall chats. Agreed he is a downhill skier.
But with the move to North i feel there is an argument of enough tough nits for Aaron Hall to exceed. Hes a great kick with speed. Him and Polec will be tearimg it up. At 389k he has potential to ave 100 to 120. Does that sway anyone opinion?
I'd love to create a bogus team and just have a midfield of Cripps, Hall, Miles, Libba, Hanners, rookies
Would love to see how that ends up in hindsight
So tempted to just go crazy and do something like that this year. Why play it seriously and the same way every single year? Not going to come 1st like that
Probably not going to come 1st like that either haha, but at least it'll be fun and different!
Quote from: TableKing on February 05, 2019, 08:32:06 PM
Loving the Aaron Hall chats. Agreed he is a downhill skier.
But with the move to North i feel there is an argument of enough tough nits for Aaron Hall to exceed. Hes a great kick with speed. Him and Polec will be tearimg it up. At 389k he has potential to ave 100 to 120. Does that sway anyone opinion?
Gotta consider as well the brand of footy North play and the defensive expectations on him. We know he isn't a great 2 way runner but will North play a brand that allows him to attack 100% of the time?
On top of that, North aren't a high possession/high statistic team (pre sure their highest avg last season was 92). We know Hall can score, but does the North model allow him to freewheel into triple figures let alone 120?
I have him going very high 90s, I think North targeted him for a reason. A stepping stone for me but not a keeper especially with his tendency to miss games
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Re Brayshaw
For all his dominance end of last year he had a high score of 126. 5 scores of 115 and 116.
Not good enough for me.
He had some monsters in AF/DT from memory. Probably one to consider in those comps, probably a pass for my SC team.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 05, 2019, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 05, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Re Brayshaw
For all his dominance end of last year he had a high score of 126. 5 scores of 115 and 116.
Not good enough for me.
He had some monsters in AF/DT from memory. Probably one to consider in those comps, probably a pass for my SC team.
Yeah he did. 166, 143, 142, 133, 128, 123, 116, 113, 113 with a few more over 100. 105 dt for 97 SC.
Would probably need to see him go 120dt to be any relevance.
I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.
Quote from: dmac07 on February 12, 2019, 12:17:12 AM
I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.
Yeah very limited preseason has me steering clear
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 01:31:30 AM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 12, 2019, 12:17:12 AM
I wanted Crisp as a POD but question marks over whether he will even be fit rnd 1 is a worry. A full pre-season I'd have locked him.
Yeah very limited preseason has me steering clear
Can't pick him based off his preseason, but honestly I'd think he is at max price already too. Can't see him going 100+ especially with Grundy and all the Pies mids etc
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately
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Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately
Well there you go, thanks mate!!
Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately
Well there you go, thanks mate!!
Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them
Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately
Well there you go, thanks mate!!
Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them
Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.
I think the problem with Tay Adams isn't his outside game being poorer than the others, but he is our biggest bull and his field kicking is showere at the best of time. Inside is where he belongs because he isn't really one to break open lines.
Wouldn't surprise me to see Adams have a super year imo, as well as Sier. Wouldn't surprise me to see those two and Beams start in the guts for us Round 1. Treloar and Sidey wings, with Pendles roaming across half back and the usual JDG/JT etc running through the guts.
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 11:09:17 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:36:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 10:10:05 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 12, 2019, 10:03:18 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
He'd be in my team, but has been rehabbing from toe surgery. Will be right for the start of the season but has only been in full training for about a week. Goes against my full preseason rule unfortunately
Well there you go, thanks mate!!
Also word of warning for anyone considering the pies mids.. Think you'll find only Adams will have a consistent mid only role this year. Treloar and Sidey penned for more wing time, Beams to play up forward to be more versatile and Pendles of course just to play wherever. Would wait and see to UG to all of them
Yeah great insight, gonna be such a tough one this year. Think you're right about Adams though, to me he seems the least versatile with the worst outside game of the lot (not to say he's bad, but boy the others are amazing). Hopefully he gets parked on ball and stays there for the duration of the year, like he did in 2017 and the second half of 2018.
I think the problem with Tay Adams isn't his outside game being poorer than the others, but he is our biggest bull and his field kicking is showere at the best of time. Inside is where he belongs because he isn't really one to break open lines.
Wouldn't surprise me to see Adams have a super year imo, as well as Sier. Wouldn't surprise me to see those two and Beams start in the guts for us Round 1. Treloar and Sidey wings, with Pendles roaming across half back and the usual JDG/JT etc running through the guts.
Yeah thats what I was getting at. By not having the outside game I meant not having the footskills/flair to make anything good happen when on the outside
Pendles halfback *drools*
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
I'm very big on him, and is overlooked by some because he lost DPP.
Quote from: TommyC on February 13, 2019, 12:03:51 PM
Quote from: _wato on February 12, 2019, 09:57:12 PM
I am really warming on Elliot Yeo. Love watching him play!!
Think he could go 110+ this year. Think the days of inconsistency is over.
I'm very big on him, and is overlooked by some because he lost DPP.
Mmm I'm wondering if the toe thing is really gonna phase me. Read he's running upwards of 9-10km a session now and should be right Round 1.
Scores post bye - 144, 113, 94, 142, 94, 128, 128, 125, 88, 120, 91 at a 115 average. 6/11 above 120, including two 140+. Scored a 140 in the qualifying final too. Is a deadset gun... between him MCrouch and Zerrett.
With regard to Crisp, if he was healthy he'd be a total lock to me.
Averaged 91 with sam Murray in the team last year.
Averaged 101 without sam Murray in the team last year.
Sam Murray is out for the year.
Quote from: duffercoat on February 14, 2019, 12:27:59 PM
With regard to Crisp, if he was healthy he'd be a total lock to me.
Averaged 91 with sam Murray in the team last year.
Averaged 101 without sam Murray in the team last year.
Sam Murray is out for the year.
Murray is out, but Beams, Wells, Elliott etc are all in. Moore now kicking out, intercepting etc too
I'm very confident in that what he averaged last year is his ceiling
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.
Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.
Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.
Quote from: Huttabito on February 18, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.
Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.
Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.
Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too
Sloane and Yeo are two im looking very closely at, 6% and 7%. Ive locked in Cripps, Dusty and Merrett, then need to split Kelly/Fyfe and Sloane/Yeo as the POD 5th.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on February 18, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.
Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.
Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.
Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on February 18, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 14, 2019, 12:41:52 PM
I just can't see how he improves (goes 100+) in that Collingwood side with all their SC pigs
I went back through the history of SuperCoach averages and only ever has 6 players on a team averaged 100+ in the same season, 3 times. This was back in the early days Geelong (2007/2009) and Brisbane (2007). Since 2010, 5 players in a single team have averaged over 100 just the 8 times.
Means that between Grundy, Beams, Treloar, Adams, Sidebottom and Pendles, history suggests one of them doesn't average triple figures. Let alone taking into account expected improvements from Crisp/De Goey the like.
Other than Grundy, I don't possibly want to even try and guess where they all end up by the end of the year to start one as a POD.
Couldn't agree more, and that's why Grundy is the only Pie I'd start too
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Sic him rex, Lol... all that matters, is he'll be number 1.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
Any ruck that can get 20+ CP's in a game is in my team no matter how much he costs but all this discussion is in a thread about POD's and that is one thing he won't be ;)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
My only concern with Grundy is now we adding in beams to the mix and treloar missed a lot of time last year. Obviously play different positions but there are only so many points to go around. It’s a a big premium to pay for someone I expect to drop in value considerably but still be the number 1 ruck.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.
Hmmm, interesting
I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring
You don't go from 97 to 131 without improving in several key areas
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.
Hmmm, interesting
I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring
Contested up from 10 to 12
Clangers slightly down, contested marking way up, 1%'ers way up
Quote from: GoLions on February 18, 2019, 07:20:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 07:15:17 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:56:29 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 18, 2019, 06:46:36 PM
Quote from: FonFatty on February 18, 2019, 06:37:09 PM
This actually concerns me more with Grundy. Prior to last year he was playing similar footy and he averaged 97.
IMO I reckon he drops of considerably, where he ave 105-112 sort of thing.
You'd be happy with that, but forking out $700k for that is a lot of money.
Was it really similar footy though?
Just glancing over his 2017 and 2018 stats, it appears he had a lot more possessions and hit outs last year, and that doesn't factor in his HOTA
Backing up 130 is close to impossible, but I think he can go 115+ and still be the best ruck, so he's still a lock for me
He went under 100 only 3 times for the year, and his lowest score was 95 LOL that's insane
2017 ave 18 posis 2018 ave 20 posis
2017 ave 35 hit outs 2018 ave 39 hit outs
2017 ave 4 clearances 2018 ave 5 clearances.
2017 ave 4 tackles 2018 ave 5 tackles.
Little bit of improvement on his numbers from year to year. Was very similar.
Hmmm, interesting
I guess we can't see CP, HOTA, etc and that makes a huge difference to scoring
Contested up from 10 to 12
Clangers slightly down, contested marking way up, 1%'ers way up
Score involvement up as well, metres gained very similar. My point is, maybe with the slight hiccup pre season he might be one that comes out of the blocks slow and you're splashing $700k for him. With the initial comment re: multiple players from same team ave 100+ he could be one that will probably miss. Big call I know but yeah, new rucking rule, Roughead/Cox chopping out, hiccup pre season, maybe...
I think I've posted this before but who do start if not Grundy?
English?
Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!
Quote from: dmac07 on February 18, 2019, 08:05:26 PM
Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!
I like it! Haven't seen him in a single team
Quote from: dmac07 on February 18, 2019, 08:05:26 PM
Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!
Got them both... and VERY VERY tempted to drop Lloyd for someone else like simmo (another POD)
Quote from: Keeper27 on February 18, 2019, 11:24:48 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on February 18, 2019, 08:05:26 PM
Currently put Hurn in my side as a POD instead of Witherdan and liking the look of it!
Got them both... and VERY VERY tempted to drop Lloyd for someone else like simmo (another POD)
No Lloyd for me ... upgrade later ... maybe
Hurn is in with Laird and Whitfield
Yeo vs Kelly is another decision
As WCE supporter I am very aware of picking with my heart not head. Yeo had another yo-yo year in 2018 but his big days won me matches ...
Quote from: RoughRed on February 19, 2019, 05:04:01 AM
As WCE supporter I am very aware of picking with my heart not head. Yeo had another yo-yo year in 2018 but his big days won me matches ...
I'd pick Yeo in a heartbeat, has such a beast inside game and can finish it off on the scoreboard (remember that time in the 2018 Grand Final when he slotted that goal from 55 :')
Only concern is his limited preseason due to toe surgery
Quote from: elephants on February 19, 2019, 09:26:58 PM
Quote from: RoughRed on February 19, 2019, 05:04:01 AM
As WCE supporter I am very aware of picking with my heart not head. Yeo had another yo-yo year in 2018 but his big days won me matches ...
I'd pick Yeo in a heartbeat, has such a beast inside game and can finish it off on the scoreboard (remember that time in the 2018 Grand Final when he slotted that goal from 55 :')
Only concern is his limited preseason due to toe surgery
Has a tough opening round as well even if he does play
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As WCE supporter I am very aware of picking with my heart not head. Yeo had another yo-yo year in 2018 but his big days won me matches ...
I'd pick Yeo in a heartbeat, has such a beast inside game and can finish it off on the scoreboard (remember that time in the 2018 Grand Final when he slotted that goal from 55 :')
Only concern is his limited preseason due to toe surgery
Has a tough opening round as well even if he does play
Lol ;D
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Sloane and Yeo are two im looking very closely at, 6% and 7%. Ive locked in Cripps, Dusty and Merrett, then need to split Kelly/Fyfe and Sloane/Yeo as the POD 5th.
fyfe and yeo would be my preference.
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Sloane and Yeo are two im looking very closely at, 6% and 7%. Ive locked in Cripps, Dusty and Merrett, then need to split Kelly/Fyfe and Sloane/Yeo as the POD 5th.
fyfe and yeo would be my preference.
Yeo in doubt for round 1
Not sure on his % ownership, but am liking Tim Kelly as a bit of a PoD. If there's one thing we know in SC, it's that the best forwards are usually predominant midfielders, which Kelly almost exclusively is.
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Forward eligible is huge and he is expected to play big midfield minutes.
He struggled to get going in what was a disappointing season last year. He flashed some legit skill and scoring potential his first season. That game against the Pies saw him go north of 130 and get him brownlow votes. Thing is I think he has only broken the ton 4 times in 40 odd games.
Might not be bad for a big jump to 90 odd this year which could make him a passable F6.
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 22, 2019, 01:16:05 AM
Sam Petrevski-Seton
Forward eligible is huge and he is expected to play big midfield minutes.
He struggled to get going in what was a disappointing season last year. He flashed some legit skill and scoring potential his first season. That game against the Pies saw him go north of 130 and get him brownlow votes. Thing is I think he has only broken the ton 4 times in 40 odd games.
Might not be bad for a big jump to 90 odd this year which could make him a passable F6.
Love SPS, whats his preseason been like? And how many mid minutes are we talking? His tackle numbers are pretty elite for someone his size, could definitely be in line for a Devon Smith type season of 85-90 imo (not at 105 level just yet)
Apparently it's been outstanding, however you don't hear blah blah has had a crap preseason very often so take that with a grain of salt
I can say he was so displeased with his own season last year that he started back early and worked on getting his tank up to scratch. I believe he was working with Doc and they were running mates until Doc tore his ACL. He missed a chunk of preseason last year and getting him fitter should see him be able to handle those mid minutes.
And to answer the mid minutes question, he just did the heavy lifting in the practice match and played as a full blown mid in match sim. Cripps and Fisher didn't play but Murphy is expected to play on the wing with Ed Curnow playing some pressure forward.
Quote from: SilverLion on February 22, 2019, 12:28:11 AM
Not sure on his % ownership, but am liking Tim Kelly as a bit of a PoD. If there's one thing we know in SC, it's that the best forwards are usually predominant midfielders, which Kelly almost exclusively is.
Hi SL, I got him when he was 6%, he is currently on 9%
Quote from: Mat0369 on February 22, 2019, 01:42:44 AM
Apparently it's been outstanding, however you don't hear blah blah has had a crap preseason very often so take that with a grain of salt
I can say he was so displeased with his own season last year that he started back early and worked on getting his tank up to scratch. I believe he was working with Doc and they were running mates until Doc tore his ACL. He missed a chunk of preseason last year and getting him fitter should see him be able to handle those mid minutes.
And to answer the mid minutes question, he just did the heavy lifting in the practice match and played as a full blown mid in match sim. Cripps and Fisher didn't play but Murphy is expected to play on the wing with Ed Curnow playing some pressure forward.
Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
Not even sure how much of POD he is, but based on what I saw today from him in the praccy match, Taranto is a lock for me.
Wines out of the mids for a bit, Boak and my main man Hamish will pick up the slack and the score.
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Not even sure how much of POD he is, but based on what I saw today from him in the praccy match, Taranto is a lock for me.
Only in 3% so definitely a big POD.
If he was a mid/fwd he'd be locked in my team but as a mid only I'm struggling to have the courage
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Wines out of the mids for a bit, Boak and my main man Hamish will pick up the slack and the score.
Port said the Boak fwd experiment failed so he goes back to mids, making him value
Not sure on Hammer off an ACL
Quote from: elephants on February 22, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/19db30a1603622a2c7b9c8afffb2aac2?width=650)
Dow also attended the second most centre bounces behind Cripps as a first year guy. Fisher was third at one point.
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Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/19db30a1603622a2c7b9c8afffb2aac2?width=650)
Dow also attended the second most centre bounces behind Cripps as a first year guy. Fisher was third at one point.
Very interesting, Dow gun even if its yet to transfer to fantasy ay this stage
Sidenote: get Ablett out of that fkn midfield!
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Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/19db30a1603622a2c7b9c8afffb2aac2?width=650)
Dow also attended the second most centre bounces behind Cripps as a first year guy. Fisher was third at one point.
Very interesting, Dow gun even if its yet to transfer to fantasy ay this stage
Sidenote: get Ablett out of that fkn midfield!
Bodes well for Carltons midfield future! Yep, think both Dow and SPS will be draft relevant only but will be popular in the next couple of years. SPS could push his average to 90 this year with Dow to follow the next year. Fisher is the one I am looking at in the JLT. Kid will be a star if he isn't already.
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Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/19db30a1603622a2c7b9c8afffb2aac2?width=650)
Dow also attended the second most centre bounces behind Cripps as a first year guy. Fisher was third at one point.
Very nice of Cripps to let Curnow & Dow take some of the credit for his hard work
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Quote from: Mat0369 on February 22, 2019, 10:49:52 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 22, 2019, 10:14:17 AM
Yeah love it, Carlton are clearly pumping games into the kids. Dow started in the center square for 3 of the 4 opening quarter bounces in the Hawks inter-club. SPS only got 2, but played off a wing and provided great impact apparently. Really like both as sleeper forwards late in drafts ;)
(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/19db30a1603622a2c7b9c8afffb2aac2?width=650)
Dow also attended the second most centre bounces behind Cripps as a first year guy. Fisher was third at one point.
Very nice of Cripps to let Curnow & Dow take some of the credit for his hard work
good call ;) 73,33 and 19
I may well be grasping at straws here, but any chance Jaeger O'Meara can step it up enough to become relevant?
Priced at $503K around the same as T.Kelly, Murphy, Lyons, Shuey, Shiel and Swallow, I think he has a lot more upside and growth in him not just on a personal level but with the absence of Titch as well. People are asking who will be the one to step up and fill the void, with names like Worpel, Cousins and Wingard being mentioned, but seem to overlook him. After what I saw in the half he played on Thursday (granted it was against Carlton) where he was arguably best on the ground, I can see him averaging 105-110! An average of 93 last year from 21 games, with an average of 100 after the bye could be the stepping stone he needs to become supercoach relevant or is that wishful thinking?
Quote from: igotworms on February 25, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
I may well be grasping at straws here, but any chance Jaeger O'Meara can step it up enough to become relevant?
Priced at $503K around the same as T.Kelly, Murphy, Lyons, Shuey, Shiel and Swallow, I think he has a lot more upside and growth in him not just on a personal level but with the absence of Titch as well. People are asking who will be the one to step up and fill the void, with names like Worpel, Cousins and Wingard being mentioned, but seem to overlook him. After what I saw in the half he played on Thursday (granted it was against Carlton) where he was arguably best on the ground, I can see him averaging 105-110! An average of 93 last year from 21 games, with an average of 100 after the bye could be the stepping stone he needs to become supercoach relevant or is that wishful thinking?
Not wishful but I don't think its worth the risk. With the way the price increases work in SC if he does manage to ave 110 he might go up 60-70k max.
If doesn't improve he will slowly bleed cash while you are madly trading out rookies haha
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Quote from: igotworms on February 25, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
I may well be grasping at straws here, but any chance Jaeger O'Meara can step it up enough to become relevant?
Priced at $503K around the same as T.Kelly, Murphy, Lyons, Shuey, Shiel and Swallow, I think he has a lot more upside and growth in him not just on a personal level but with the absence of Titch as well. People are asking who will be the one to step up and fill the void, with names like Worpel, Cousins and Wingard being mentioned, but seem to overlook him. After what I saw in the half he played on Thursday (granted it was against Carlton) where he was arguably best on the ground, I can see him averaging 105-110! An average of 93 last year from 21 games, with an average of 100 after the bye could be the stepping stone he needs to become supercoach relevant or is that wishful thinking?
Not wishful but I don't think its worth the risk. With the way the price increases work in SC if he does manage to ave 110 he might go up 60-70k max.
If doesn't improve he will slowly bleed cash while you are madly trading out rookies haha
If he averages 110 I don’t think you care about the $, as you’ll be keeping him.
I guess the main question that was asked is whether starting Jaeger and a fwd rook is better than T Kelly and a mid rook. I see the upside in Jaeger, but the likelihood of him being a top 10 mid, compared to someone like Kelly being a top fwd is slim at best, so a pass for me.
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Quote from: Gigantor on February 25, 2019, 04:04:58 PM
Quote from: igotworms on February 25, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
I may well be grasping at straws here, but any chance Jaeger O'Meara can step it up enough to become relevant?
Priced at $503K around the same as T.Kelly, Murphy, Lyons, Shuey, Shiel and Swallow, I think he has a lot more upside and growth in him not just on a personal level but with the absence of Titch as well. People are asking who will be the one to step up and fill the void, with names like Worpel, Cousins and Wingard being mentioned, but seem to overlook him. After what I saw in the half he played on Thursday (granted it was against Carlton) where he was arguably best on the ground, I can see him averaging 105-110! An average of 93 last year from 21 games, with an average of 100 after the bye could be the stepping stone he needs to become supercoach relevant or is that wishful thinking?
Not wishful but I don't think its worth the risk. With the way the price increases work in SC if he does manage to ave 110 he might go up 60-70k max.
If doesn't improve he will slowly bleed cash while you are madly trading out rookies haha
If he averages 110 I don’t think you care about the $, as you’ll be keeping him.
I guess the main question that was asked is whether starting Jaeger and a fwd rook is better than T Kelly and a mid rook. I see the upside in Jaeger, but the likelihood of him being a top 10 mid, compared to someone like Kelly being a top fwd is slim at best, so a pass for me.
Lol I total missed another line there, was meant to add that if you don't start him he won't go up much.
It's down what you think is more likely, him improving or staying the same.
Quote from: Gigantor on February 25, 2019, 07:37:54 PMIt's down what you think is more likely, him improving or staying the same.
Pretty much the same as any player/POD.
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Quote from: Gigantor on February 25, 2019, 07:37:54 PMIt's down what you think is more likely, him improving or staying the same.
Pretty much the same as any player/POD.
Yeah but in this case I would rather go someone like Sloane or Zorko for 20k more, both have proven premo years under their belts
Quote from: igotworms on February 25, 2019, 03:49:28 PM
I may well be grasping at straws here, but any chance Jaeger O'Meara can step it up enough to become relevant?
Priced at $503K around the same as T.Kelly, Murphy, Lyons, Shuey, Shiel and Swallow, I think he has a lot more upside and growth in him not just on a personal level but with the absence of Titch as well. People are asking who will be the one to step up and fill the void, with names like Worpel, Cousins and Wingard being mentioned, but seem to overlook him. After what I saw in the half he played on Thursday (granted it was against Carlton) where he was arguably best on the ground, I can see him averaging 105-110! An average of 93 last year from 21 games, with an average of 100 after the bye could be the stepping stone he needs to become supercoach relevant or is that wishful thinking?
JoM is definitely a viable option IMO.
Class is class and he has it - 503K is a steal for someone that is more than capable of leading the Hawks midfield
As you said he started slow last year but got going as the season wore on.
With another full pre season and greater confidence in not only himself, but the team playstyle..... and then Sam Mitchell giving him a few pointers, TMitch going down, the new rules that work in favour for a good ruckman like Big Boy dropping it on his head at centre bounces… its almost a given that his PPG will increase
Dominated the intra club as well
I would not be surprised at all if he was in the top 10 scoring mids at the end of the year
JOM will go one of two ways, struggle with the tag and drop to 90-95s or explode and thrive and go 110+. Not sure which one it will be at this stage. Think Liam Shiels is also a chance for a bump
All eyes on jack steele
Okay Sloane, time to put the que in the rack thanks. Lets keep you in 7%....
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JOM will go one of two ways, struggle with the tag and drop to 90-95s or explode and thrive and go 110+. Not sure which one it will be at this stage. Think Liam Shiels is also a chance for a bump
All the attention goes to JOM now, think the uncertainty is enough to put him in the wait & see basket.
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All eyes on jack steele
No. 1% ownership. Certainly not relevant.
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All eyes on jack steele
been in my side ever since Steven is taking time off, reckon he can go 105, sits @ M4 or M5 right now
Jeremy Cameron having a good game in the JLT for the Giants. Playing more as a half forward and getting up the ground with Himmelberg generally the deepest forward. 19 touches and a goal at 3/4 time.
441k in 1% or teams. One to ponder if he continues to play a similar role.
One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
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One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
He is ridiculously underpriced cause of his 14 and -1 from injuries... But i also brought him in last year for the 14 so a big burn man for me
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Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2019, 11:27:08 AM
One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
He is ridiculously underpriced cause of his 14 and -1 from injuries... But i also brought him in last year for the 14 so a big burn man for me
470k though still is pretty expensive compared to
Billings + 30k
Greene + 120k
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 04, 2019, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2019, 11:27:08 AM
One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
He is ridiculously underpriced cause of his 14 and -1 from injuries... But i also brought him in last year for the 14 so a big burn man for me
470k though still is pretty expensive compared to
Billings + 30k
Greene + 120k
I think he outscores billings and Greene no worries. It’s the value of Greene that evens it up a little bit.
As it stands right now. Darling is in my side
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Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2019, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 04, 2019, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2019, 11:27:08 AM
One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
He is ridiculously underpriced cause of his 14 and -1 from injuries... But i also brought him in last year for the 14 so a big burn man for me
470k though still is pretty expensive compared to
Billings + 30k
Greene + 120k
I think he outscores billings and Greene no worries. It’s the value of Greene that evens it up a little bit.
As it stands right now. Darling is in my side
It's Darling vs Cameron as a POD @ F3 for mine, have Cameron due to $ and looks to have a license to roam. Both in for huge years with the rule changes I believe
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Quote from: Holz on March 04, 2019, 11:46:29 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 04, 2019, 11:39:52 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2019, 11:27:08 AM
One player i have put in and out of my team is jack darling.
His start to last year was Wayne Carey like before that injury struck and he took a little to get over it.
I think these new rules will suit him down to the ground.
If I can get him to f3 somehow he is a definite chance for my side
He is ridiculously underpriced cause of his 14 and -1 from injuries... But i also brought him in last year for the 14 so a big burn man for me
470k though still is pretty expensive compared to
Billings + 30k
Greene + 120k
I think he outscores billings and Greene no worries. It’s the value of Greene that evens it up a little bit.
As it stands right now. Darling is in my side
It's Darling vs Cameron as a POD @ F3 for mine, have Cameron due to $ and looks to have a license to roam. Both in for huge years with the rule changes I believe
Haha I also like Cameron but eagles bias got him the gig.
Fuark didn't realise his scores. The 30's and 40's are big red flags though.
Was averaging 108 upto Round 10 though before injury.
Darling being so strong in 1-on-1s is definitely one of his best attributes and certainly will help him with the new rule if the Eagles can get quick clearances and deliver it to him. Certainly has value as a POD I think.
I'm seriously giving thought to running one of Papley, Higgins or Fisher at F3 (Danger F1, Billings F2, Worpel F4). It's probably too risky, but I think they've all certainly got what it takes (particularly Higgins and Fisher) to make the next step up and go at least 90, if not more.
Again, it's probably way too risky given they're priced similarly to Worpel and having two of them in that kinda awkward price bracket is likely asking for trouble haha.
Just remember Darling has the horror bye with Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Kelly etc
JJK wasn't anywhere near his best last year either
At 470k, with his bye and JJK etc, I just don't think there is enough upside in starting him. I hope he proves me wrong though ;)
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 04, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Just remember Darling has the horror bye with Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Kelly etc
JJK wasn't anywhere near his best last year either
At 470k, with his bye and JJK etc, I just don't think there is enough upside in starting him. I hope he proves me wrong though ;)
Can probably get him cheaper after his Rd1 score drags him down
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 04, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Just remember Darling has the horror bye with Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Kelly etc
JJK wasn't anywhere near his best last year either
At 470k, with his bye and JJK etc, I just don't think there is enough upside in starting him. I hope he proves me wrong though ;)
Bloody hell ... the bye strikes again
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 04, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Just remember Darling has the horror bye with Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Kelly etc
JJK wasn't anywhere near his best last year either
At 470k, with his bye and JJK etc, I just don't think there is enough upside in starting him. I hope he proves me wrong though ;)
Darling averaged 97 sc points a game excluding his 2 injury affected games and priced at 87. He also averaged 105.4 in the 9 games he played with JJK during the season. However it is a good point that if JJK plays back to his best will this negatively impact Darlings output?
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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 04, 2019, 01:18:14 PM
Just remember Darling has the horror bye with Danger, Heeney, Menegola, Kelly etc
JJK wasn't anywhere near his best last year either
At 470k, with his bye and JJK etc, I just don't think there is enough upside in starting him. I hope he proves me wrong though ;)
Darling averaged 97 sc points a game excluding his 2 injury affected games and priced at 87. He also averaged 105.4 in the 9 games he played with JJK during the season. However it is a good point that if JJK plays back to his best will this negatively impact Darlings output?
Jacks contested marking is one of his great assets. If JJK returns early it will allow Jack to get up to the wings and expose defenders and then roll back on them and get them one-out with the 6-6-6 rule opening up space. I honestly see him going 90 this season, he will be inconsistent but his big games will be large
JL is in. 8)
Lyons is good POD but reckon he will b top 10?
A 0% POD that is in considerations for me based on a single article:
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-02-21/midfield-focus-for-williams
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Lyons is good POD but reckon he will b top 10?
Top 1
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Lyons is good POD but reckon he will b top 10?
Top 1
Jeez if he outscores cripps and the others im impressed
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A 0% POD that is in considerations for me based on a single article:
http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/news/2019-02-21/midfield-focus-for-williams
Meow said he'd been training mids all summer a couple of weeks ago IIRC.
Harris Andrews anyone?
Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
Harris Andrews anyone?
Yes, impressed me a lot more than Witherden did yesterday. He averaged 92 last year (excluding the game he was knocked out in), and there's no reason why he can't add to that with a rising Brissie team.
His intercept marking and spoils are also very SC friendly.
Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
Harris Andrews anyone?
Came into my team yesterday.
Feels Rancey circa 2016. Which would put his ceiling at 100ish.
Don't think he'll be top 4 but a good chance of being in the next 4.
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Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
Harris Andrews anyone?
Yes, impressed me a lot more than Witherden did yesterday. He averaged 92 last year (excluding the game he was knocked out in), and there's no reason why he can't add to that with a rising Brissie team.
His intercept marking and spoils are also very SC friendly.
His first 2 games back from the concussion he scored 60s as well. Went 96ish otherwise.
I like him. I had him last year and I had him for a while this year. But this push to maybe turn him into a forward scares me too much, makes him a risk.
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Quote from: SilverLion on March 10, 2019, 12:37:21 PM
Harris Andrews anyone?
Yes, impressed me a lot more than Witherden did yesterday. He averaged 92 last year (excluding the game he was knocked out in), and there's no reason why he can't add to that with a rising Brissie team.
His intercept marking and spoils are also very SC friendly.
His first 2 games back from the concussion he scored 60s as well. Went 96ish otherwise.
I had Mills this morning, then he played back line, then i went to Roberton but he has decided to break down. So welcome to the club Harris. That 96.2 average if you take away the game he got poleaxed and his 2 recovery games looks so good. Some great scores in there.
Touk Miller, 126 today, 0% of sides priced at $482k mid only. Anyone interested? Could be ready to take the next step and develop into a consistent elite ball winning mid for the Suns...
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Touk Miller, 126 today, 0% of sides priced at $482k mid only. Anyone interested? Could be ready to take the next step and develop into a consistent elite ball winning mid for the Suns...
Not a chance, won't be within cooee of the top 8 mids.
Quote from: reesbr on March 10, 2019, 08:52:35 PM
Touk Miller, 126 today, 0% of sides priced at $482k mid only. Anyone interested? Could be ready to take the next step and develop into a consistent elite ball winning mid for the Suns...
Good one for the draft leagues. I don't see why he can't go mid 90s, much better than Miles imo and has all the opportunity in the world.
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Touk Miller, 126 today, 0% of sides priced at $482k mid only. Anyone interested? Could be ready to take the next step and develop into a consistent elite ball winning mid for the Suns...
Good one for the draft leagues. I don't see why he can't go mid 90s, much better than Miles imo and has all the opportunity in the world.
Will avg 110 ez
not much talk on yeo?
he should play midfield all year, and we know the numbers he can rack up when hes not forced to play forward.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2019, 09:13:00 AM
not much talk on yeo?
he should play midfield all year, and we know the numbers he can rack up when hes not forced to play forward.
Love the pick but dunno where to squeeze him in. Maybe if i need a bit of cash can downgrade Fyfe. Although i think there's a lot of picks in that sort of 2nd tier that you can't really go wrong with.
yeah i have the cash to go from steele > yeo.
steele hasn't left my team all pre-season and i think hes due for a massive year, close to 110, but i'm starting to get cold feet as the season draws on.
i have 100k in the bank that i plan on taking into round 1. i think i hold onto steele and if he starts poorly then i can take the the L and use that cash to go to Yeo or someone else.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2019, 10:33:18 AM
yeah i have the cash to go from steele > yeo.
steele hasn't left my team all pre-season and i think hes due for a massive year, close to 110, but i'm starting to get cold feet as the season draws on.
i have 100k in the bank that i plan on taking into round 1. i think i hold onto steele and if he starts poorly then i can take the the L and use that cash to go to Yeo or someone else.
speaking of feet, you do know Yeo had a toe operation over the pre-season?
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Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2019, 10:33:18 AM
yeah i have the cash to go from steele > yeo.
steele hasn't left my team all pre-season and i think hes due for a massive year, close to 110, but i'm starting to get cold feet as the season draws on.
i have 100k in the bank that i plan on taking into round 1. i think i hold onto steele and if he starts poorly then i can take the the L and use that cash to go to Yeo or someone else.
speaking of feet, you do know Yeo had a toe operation over the pre-season?
And looked great in the jlt
Using 10% as cut off my premiums pods and surprised at a couple of the %
Witherden 9.4%
Simpson 6.8%
Ryan 2.2%
So have a fully POD Back line - Ryans % does surprise though
Steele 1.6%
Mundy 1.8%
So 5 of my 13 keepers PODs
Does anyone else think this year everyones teams are the most closely related its ever been? Like i get theres usually "cookie cutter" sides but this year there are an obviously lack of options. Even the people who dont know SuperCoach have similar sides. There is a severe lack of rookies meaning basically everyone is running the same ones and therefore the same structure. Then not to mention a few 50/50 picks like Robo/Smith are going down to force everyone into one choice, as well as so many standout premiums for each line meaning you just have to pick them. I just dont remember a year where so many players are above 25% of teams, its nuts. Theres genuinely 38 players in over 25% of teams. Thats not a very big selection to chose from for diversity.
Quote from: Ringo on March 18, 2019, 11:54:37 AM
Using 10% as cut off my premiums pods and surprised at a couple of the %
Witherden 9.4%
Simpson 6.8%
Ryan 2.2%
So have a fully POD Back line - Ryans % does surprise though
Steele 1.6%
Mundy 1.8%
So 5 of my 13 keepers PODs
Just Withergoat and Zorko for me, not gonna go out of my way to bring in more PODs though. Couple on the radar that I'm keen on though, such as Crisp, Harris, Boak, Treloar, and Yeo.
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 18, 2019, 01:10:45 PM
Does anyone else think this year everyones teams are the most closely related its ever been? Like i get theres usually "cookie cutter" sides but this year there are an obviously lack of options. Even the people who dont know SuperCoach have similar sides. There is a severe lack of rookies meaning basically everyone is running the same ones and therefore the same structure. Then not to mention a few 50/50 picks like Robo/Smith are going down to force everyone into one choice, as well as so many standout premiums for each line meaning you just have to pick them. I just dont remember a year where so many players are above 25% of teams, its nuts. Theres genuinely 38 players in over 25% of teams. Thats not a very big selection to chose from for diversity.
Eh, overall yes, but in terms of coming up against a team each week, the combinations will almost always be different still.
E.g. look at the mids, Crippa, Oliver, Fyfe, Dusty, Macrae, BCrouch, Libba are all over 20%. Neale, Brayshaw, and Coniglio are not far behind. Obviously nobody can have all of these players, so whilst none of these guys are PODs, the combination of players you choose is just about guaranteed to have about 2-3 different in your starting 5 against whoever you play. So it's not much of an issue to me.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 18, 2019, 01:10:45 PM
Does anyone else think this year everyones teams are the most closely related its ever been? Like i get theres usually "cookie cutter" sides but this year there are an obviously lack of options. Even the people who dont know SuperCoach have similar sides. There is a severe lack of rookies meaning basically everyone is running the same ones and therefore the same structure. Then not to mention a few 50/50 picks like Robo/Smith are going down to force everyone into one choice, as well as so many standout premiums for each line meaning you just have to pick them. I just dont remember a year where so many players are above 25% of teams, its nuts. Theres genuinely 38 players in over 25% of teams. Thats not a very big selection to chose from for diversity.
Eh, overall yes, but in terms of coming up against a team each week, the combinations will almost always be different still.
E.g. look at the mids, Crippa, Oliver, Fyfe, Dusty, Macrae, BCrouch, Libba are all over 20%. Neale, Brayshaw, and Coniglio are not far behind. Obviously nobody can have all of these players, so whilst none of these guys are PODs, the combination of players you choose is just about guaranteed to have about 2-3 different in your starting 5 against whoever you play. So it's not much of an issue to me.
I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment stated above.
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 18, 2019, 01:10:45 PM
Does anyone else think this year everyones teams are the most closely related its ever been? Like i get theres usually "cookie cutter" sides but this year there are an obviously lack of options. Even the people who dont know SuperCoach have similar sides. There is a severe lack of rookies meaning basically everyone is running the same ones and therefore the same structure. Then not to mention a few 50/50 picks like Robo/Smith are going down to force everyone into one choice, as well as so many standout premiums for each line meaning you just have to pick them. I just dont remember a year where so many players are above 25% of teams, its nuts. Theres genuinely 38 players in over 25% of teams. Thats not a very big selection to chose from for diversity.
Eh, overall yes, but in terms of coming up against a team each week, the combinations will almost always be different still.
E.g. look at the mids, Crippa, Oliver, Fyfe, Dusty, Macrae, BCrouch, Libba are all over 20%. Neale, Brayshaw, and Coniglio are not far behind. Obviously nobody can have all of these players, so whilst none of these guys are PODs, the combination of players you choose is just about guaranteed to have about 2-3 different in your starting 5 against whoever you play. So it's not much of an issue to me.
I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment stated above.
Agree that a lot of teams similar - going on teams posted most have only 3/4 different. For the first time in a number of years even the rookies being selected are the same hence I agree with the comments on rookies as well.
I think "point of difference" this season will be more towards leaving out a high percentage player. For example, Fyfe being left out is a POD if you don't want to burn your trade on him later down the track. Not starting Dusty is a POD if you believe he won't get back to a top tier mid. Lloyd and Laird being left out if you think they will lose money. Not starting Libba/B.Crouch and opting to go closer to guns & rooks will be that persons "point of difference". And so on...
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 18, 2019, 01:10:45 PM
Does anyone else think this year everyones teams are the most closely related its ever been? Like i get theres usually "cookie cutter" sides but this year there are an obviously lack of options. Even the people who dont know SuperCoach have similar sides. There is a severe lack of rookies meaning basically everyone is running the same ones and therefore the same structure. Then not to mention a few 50/50 picks like Robo/Smith are going down to force everyone into one choice, as well as so many standout premiums for each line meaning you just have to pick them. I just dont remember a year where so many players are above 25% of teams, its nuts. Theres genuinely 38 players in over 25% of teams. Thats not a very big selection to chose from for diversity.
Maybe. But starting side is only a small part of it. Smart trades and good captain choices is what separates the wolf from the sheep
There is a very loose idea of what is a POD. Personally I think it is Premiums that provide a Point Of Difference. anything below top 20 IMO is more midprice, breakout option that IMO isn't really a POD, but more so a risk pick. So below I have put any of the Approx top 20 players from last year in the position who are currently under 5% ownership (Rucks top 10)
From this there is really only a couple from each line that I look at and go they have potential. Rucks and Forwards light, but some possible value in the Mids and Defence.
Defence PODs ($470k approx. top 20)
Jeremy McGovern 5%
Heath Shaw 3%
Harris Andrews 2%
L Ryan 2%
M Hurley 2%
J Howe 2%
S Savage 1%
M Suckling 0%
J McVeigh 0%
J Webster 0%
T Jonas 0%
Midfield PODs ($560k approx. top 20)
E Yeo 5%
M Bont 3%
S Pendles 3%
J Selwood 3%
S Higgins 1%
L Parker 1%
G Ablett 1%
M Duncan 1%
A Gaff 1%
Ruck PODs ($520k approx. top 10)
T Nank 3%
C Sinclair 1%
B Mcevoy 1%
N Naitanui 1%
A Sandi 1%
Fwds PODs ($490k approx. top 20)
J Riewoldt 4%
T Mclean 4%
S Menegola 4%
L Franklin 3%
M Wallis 2%
T Mcdonald 2%
D Mundy 2%
T Hawkins 2%
J Hogan 2%
L Breust 1%
M Robinson 1%
J Gunston 1%
Outside this the POD is about leaving a high % player out of the team
Almost tempted to leave Grundy out as a pod.
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 18, 2019, 02:39:01 PM
Almost tempted to leave Grundy out as a pod.
AF winner left out Tom Mitchell last year, brought him in for Coniglio when Coniglio had his biggest score and Mitchell had his lowest, plus captained him...
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Almost tempted to leave Grundy out as a pod.
AF winner left out Tom Mitchell last year, brought him in for Coniglio when Coniglio had his biggest score and Mitchell had his lowest, plus captained him...
Was planning on doing the same thing with goldy (as many are)
Big risk / big reward
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Almost tempted to leave Grundy out as a pod.
AF winner left out Tom Mitchell last year, brought him in for Coniglio when Coniglio had his biggest score and Mitchell had his lowest, plus captained him...
Was planning on doing the same thing with goldy (as many are)
Big risk / big reward
Makes sense in AF where you have 2 trades a week but would be crazy to burn a trade like that in SC
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Almost tempted to leave Grundy out as a pod.
AF winner left out Tom Mitchell last year, brought him in for Coniglio when Coniglio had his biggest score and Mitchell had his lowest, plus captained him...
Was planning on doing the same thing with goldy (as many are)
Big risk / big reward
Makes sense in AF where you have 2 trades a week but would be crazy to burn a trade like that in SC
Yep, you'd have to get some luck on your side to pull it off.
Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
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Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
Don't know why I haven't strongly considered this guy. His scoring history is superb and should return to premium numbers this year
Jack Steele is still my man but his ownership has sadly doubled recently. Now at 2%
Quote from: quinny88 on March 19, 2019, 01:38:30 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 19, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
Don't know why I haven't strongly considered this guy. His scoring history is superb and should return to premium numbers this year
bugger you wato, stats like this have me 2nd guessing myself. "no last minute changes" is my mantra this year so not doing it.
Quote from: crowls on March 19, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 19, 2019, 01:38:30 AM
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Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
Don't know why I haven't strongly considered this guy. His scoring history is superb and should return to premium numbers this year
bugger you wato, stats like this have me 2nd guessing myself. "no last minute changes" is my mantra this year so not doing it.
I'm too afraid of getting burnt by the tag again. Plus, can't really have Sloane and both Crouches in the same midfield. Tempting though...
Sloane, Steele, Ryan, Andrews, Boak, Darling are my sub 10% picks so if you could all not pick them that would be fab.
I feel like I have one too many with Ryan but I don't like any of the options at all in the backline.
Quote from: batt on March 19, 2019, 08:26:20 AM
Sloane, Steele, Ryan, Andrews, Boak, Darling are my sub 10% picks so if you could all not pick them that would be fab.
I feel like I have one too many with Ryan but I don't like any of the options at all in the backline.
Don't worry. I'm not picking any of them and I'll wipe the floor with you anyway :P
Piss off would you wato lol Sloane has been in my side for ages and I'd like him to remain a POD :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2019, 09:12:13 AM
Piss off would you wato lol Sloane has been in my side for ages and I'd like him to remain a POD :P
Quote from: LaHug on March 19, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 19, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 19, 2019, 01:38:30 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 19, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
Don't know why I haven't strongly considered this guy. His scoring history is superb and should return to premium numbers this year
bugger you wato, stats like this have me 2nd guessing myself. "no last minute changes" is my mantra this year so not doing it.
I'm too afraid of getting burnt by the tag again. Plus, can't really have Sloane and both Crouches in the same midfield. Tempting though...
Remember Pendlebury, Swan, Beams, Having the three would be POD as well.
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Quote from: LaHug on March 19, 2019, 08:21:44 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 19, 2019, 07:42:55 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 19, 2019, 01:38:30 AM
Quote from: _wato on March 19, 2019, 12:37:12 AM
Rory Sloane
Adelaide’s early fixture - Hawks (home) Swans (away), Geelong (home), Norf (away) GC (home), Freo (Home), PA (home)
Sloane's past 2 years scores against those opposition
146 & 80 v Hawks, 140 & 137 v Swans, 169 & 127 v Geelong, 110 & 80 (career avg of 115) v North, 139 v GC, 177 v Freo, 151 & 111 & 168 v PA
Not to mention tonning up 37/50 home games, with 24 of them over 120, 18 over 130.
Crows have 8 home games in their first 12. It is seriously so tempting and 6 6 6 rules possibly make it harder for taggers. Priced at 525k and a full preseason with no outside noise. Great scoring history too.
Don't know why I haven't strongly considered this guy. His scoring history is superb and should return to premium numbers this year
bugger you wato, stats like this have me 2nd guessing myself. "no last minute changes" is my mantra this year so not doing it.
I'm too afraid of getting burnt by the tag again. Plus, can't really have Sloane and both Crouches in the same midfield. Tempting though...
Remember Pendlebury, Swan, Beams, Having the three would be POD as well.
But the Pendles, Swan, Beams days were before byes became a problem...
So with the Sloane thing, I could drop Cogs to Sloane and have three Adelaide mids. Gives me enough cash to go Atkins up to Cousins too. But is that insanity?
If you think Sloane & the Crouch bros are anywhere near 2012 Swan, Pendles & Beams you have truly fallen into pre-season madness.
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 19, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
If you think Sloane & the Crouch bros are anywhere near 2012 Swan, Pendles & Beams you have truly fallen into pre-season madness.
Preseason madness is so much fun though. Then, on Thursday, you quickly change everything back into something more reasonable and wonder what you were thinking.
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 19, 2019, 12:48:53 PM
If you think Sloane & the Crouch bros are anywhere near 2012 Swan, Pendles & Beams you have truly fallen into pre-season madness.
They put up something like 360+ combined
Really you just need a 315+ combined from the Crow combo which is totally achievable.
They did 317 in 2017
Anyone looking at Jack Higgins? Everything I'm hearing from Richmond circles is that he's going to play majority mid. In that case, I can see him averaging 85ish but that's probably too low for a keeper and maybe not high enough to make enough money? In that awkward spot but I'm a little tempted. I might go him if Greene's out so I don't have to change my structure.
Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Anyone looking at Jack Higgins? Everything I'm hearing from Richmond circles is that he's going to play majority mid. In that case, I can see him averaging 85ish but that's probably too low for a keeper and maybe not high enough to make enough money? In that awkward spot but I'm a little tempted. I might go him if Greene's out so I don't have to change my structure.
Taking the risk on him in fantasy but think he’s to awkwardly priced as he probably won’t do enough to become a keeper.
Anyone able the help out with a few ownership percentages?
Rance
Mills
Lyons
Thank you
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 20, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Anyone able the help out with a few ownership percentages?
Rance 4.9
Mills 8.3
Lyons 1.6
Thank you
As above
Quote from: Jalapeno on March 20, 2019, 10:34:05 AM
Anyone able the help out with a few ownership percentages?
Rance
Mills
Lyons
Thank you
Anyone can view these at this time of the year
Lmao I've talked myself into Sloane > Crouch now after my research the other day. I figure he's a guy who can get you a massive leap in the rankings to start the year, 8/12 games at home before the bye and a 75% history of tonning up in home games, so pretty sure I can bank on 6/8 tons for those games alone, and a 50% chance of those 6 will be 130+ based on scoring history so fair chance he jumps out of the blocks.
Never seen Sloane this keen to pull on a jersey and play football. Looks like this year he wants to prove a lot.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2019, 09:12:13 AM
Piss off would you wato lol Sloane has been in my side for ages and I'd like him to remain a POD :P
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 20, 2019, 10:58:43 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 19, 2019, 09:12:13 AM
Piss off would you wato lol Sloane has been in my side for ages and I'd like him to remain a POD :P
Hahahah yeah, still only in 6% of teams though so crazy low. Only thing that worries me is the Crouch brothers chewing up a lot of the ball between them. They’re probably gonna have 30+ each week as they’re just magnets, just gotta hope Sloane wants to shoulder the load as much as the other 2 pigs.
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Quote from: LaHug on March 20, 2019, 07:53:25 AM
Anyone looking at Jack Higgins? Everything I'm hearing from Richmond circles is that he's going to play majority mid. In that case, I can see him averaging 85ish but that's probably too low for a keeper and maybe not high enough to make enough money? In that awkward spot but I'm a little tempted. I might go him if Greene's out so I don't have to change my structure.
Taking the risk on him in fantasy but think he’s to awkwardly priced as he probably won’t do enough to become a keeper.
You're right. The price is very awkward...
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Piss off would you wato lol Sloane has been in my side for ages and I'd like him to remain a POD :P
Hahahah yeah, still only in 6% of teams though so crazy low. Only thing that worries me is the Crouch brothers chewing up a lot of the ball between them. They’re probably gonna have 30+ each week as they’re just magnets, just gotta hope Sloane wants to shoulder the load as much as the other 2 pigs.
Which is why I think I'll pass on Sloane and keep the Crouch boys. Having all three is tempting though. And then I also want to bring Dusty in but the byes get really ugly with Cogs and Cripps too!
Huggy I'd be dropping Cogs if i was to choose between him and Crouch. Guy is a flowering gun though, this could be the year he goes 115, has all the attributes. The extra 35k is the winner tho
Quote from: _wato on March 20, 2019, 11:05:56 AM
Huggy I'd be dropping Cogs if i was to choose between him and Crouch. Guy is a flowering gun though, this could be the year he goes 115, has all the attributes. The extra 35k is the winner tho
Don't think I can get Dusty or Sloane realistically. Definitely not dropping Cripps. Don't want to drop Cogs or MCrouch and don't think it's worth upgrading BCrouch. Damn byes :( Oliver is my starting mid I'd most happily move tbh...
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Huggy I'd be dropping Cogs if i was to choose between him and Crouch. Guy is a flowering gun though, this could be the year he goes 115, has all the attributes. The extra 35k is the winner tho
Don't think I can get Dusty or Sloane realistically. Definitely not dropping Cripps. Don't want to drop Cogs or MCrouch and don't think it's worth upgrading BCrouch. Damn byes :( Oliver is my starting mid I'd most happily move tbh...
Wouldn't be dropping Oliver. Stick with the guys you've got. Oliver has a perfect bye too in terms of MID premos. Realistically you can only pick 3 of Sloane Crouch Dusty Cogs Cripps as Rd 14 bye will kill you in the mids + Laird Williams Greene across other lines. Rd 13 bye kills rucks and forwards, Rd 14 kills your mids and Rd 12 does SFA.
I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
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Anyone able the help out with a few ownership percentages?
Rance 4.9
Mills 8.3
Lyons 1.6
Thank you
As above
Thank you mate. Much appreciated
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 20, 2019, 12:08:07 PM
I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
Haha! What's your reasoning for adding the worpedo?
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I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
Haha! What's your reasoning for adding the worpedo?
He is just a jet. Contested/Clearance bull, he'll have to step up with Titch out. I usually avoid 2nd year players but theres something about contested rookies thriving in their 2nd year. Also Billings to him gives me the cash to go Sloane to Dusty or Atkins to Hately which is a bonus.
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I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
Haha! What's your reasoning for adding the worpedo?
He is just a jet. Contested/Clearance bull, he'll have to step up with Titch out. I usually avoid 2nd year players but theres something about contested rookies thriving in their 2nd year. Also Billings to him gives me the cash to go Sloane to Dusty or Atkins to Hately which is a bonus.
I like it. Would be a great PoD and I think he will lift alot as you said
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I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
Haha! What's your reasoning for adding the worpedo?
He is just a jet. Contested/Clearance bull, he'll have to step up with Titch out. I usually avoid 2nd year players but theres something about contested rookies thriving in their 2nd year. Also Billings to him gives me the cash to go Sloane to Dusty or Atkins to Hately which is a bonus.
I like it. Would be a great PoD and I think he will lift alot as you said
He’s actually not a massive PoD think he is in 13% of teams or something.
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Quote from: Jalapeno on March 20, 2019, 01:08:22 PM
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Quote from: hawkers65 on March 20, 2019, 12:08:07 PM
I'm doing the old day before lockout panic. My man crush Worpel just entered my team. Help.
Haha! What's your reasoning for adding the worpedo?
He is just a jet. Contested/Clearance bull, he'll have to step up with Titch out. I usually avoid 2nd year players but theres something about contested rookies thriving in their 2nd year. Also Billings to him gives me the cash to go Sloane to Dusty or Atkins to Hately which is a bonus.
I like it. Would be a great PoD and I think he will lift alot as you said
He’s actually not a massive PoD think he is in 13% of teams or something.
Yeah Billings is more of a POD, 6% and 11%
Jack Steele
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh tell no one
Looking over my team, I don't have many POD's at all! Which is weird for me.
Simpson and Crisp are my D1 and D2 (each around 7% ownership), but otherwise by next 'biggest' POD is Greene at 20%! :o
I have a huge POD
no Baillie Smith
loving the look of that
I have a 7% defender, a 2% fwd, and a bunch of standard picks.
Quote from: jfitty on March 20, 2019, 04:29:11 PM
Looking over my team, I don't have many POD's at all! Which is weird for me.
Simpson and Crisp are my D1 and D2 (each around 7% ownership), but otherwise by next 'biggest' POD is Greene at 20%! :o
Yeah i've just realised that besides Sloane at 6%, my next least popular player is Greene at 20.9%...
::)
Just C Mills and D Mundy. But I think it's really going to come down to the best and luckiest trader this year and, on previous form, that definitely won't be me.
Quote from: Sabretooth Tigers on March 20, 2019, 09:22:33 PM
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Just C Mills and D Mundy. But I think it's really going to come down to the best and luckiest trader this year and, on previous form, that definitely won't be me.
I have gone Mills and Mundy as well. I have a good feeling about Mills and can see Mundy being Mr consistent.
1 I was considering but was likely to never grab is Cuningham. I'm surprised how much time he has had rotating through the guts. He has been our best forward through the preseason but I was worried he would get stuck there often. Could be a nice sideways option it Ridley spuds up
I have Hurn, a 3% fwd, Mills, Cousins for my PODs. And no Grundy. I’ll be excited to see if I’m punished for that tonight!
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 21, 2019, 08:39:17 PM
1 I was considering but was likely to never grab is Cuningham. I'm surprised how much time he has had rotating through the guts. He has been our best forward through the preseason but I was worried he would get stuck there often. Could be a nice sideways option it Ridley spuds up
Cunningham looked good in JLT. I was looking at him but couldn't get around to doing it. He has to play mid to be a viable option, and if he does, he will rack them up.
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 12:44:26 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 21, 2019, 08:39:17 PM
1 I was considering but was likely to never grab is Cuningham. I'm surprised how much time he has had rotating through the guts. He has been our best forward through the preseason but I was worried he would get stuck there often. Could be a nice sideways option it Ridley spuds up
Cunningham looked good in JLT. I was looking at him but couldn't get around to doing it. He has to play mid to be a viable option, and if he does, he will rack them up.
I was bullish on Fisher too all pre season and couldn't pull the trigger.
Quote from: Wanderer on March 22, 2019, 12:44:26 PM
Cunningham looked good in JLT. I was looking at him but couldn't get around to doing it. He has to play mid to be a viable option, and if he does, he will rack them up.
He slowed down after HT but he looked really good out there. He is so awkwardly priced though at 250k.
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 22, 2019, 03:15:14 PM
I was bullish on Fisher too all pre season and couldn't pull the trigger.
I wouldn't be shocked to see 1 or 2 of Dow, Fish and Samo average 90 this year. All will get a good run through the midfield and can impact games. Fish is the pick of the bunch, Samo is next and I don't think Dow has the tank yet to probably pull it off.
Andrews 2.3%
Hanley 3.1%
My only ones under 10%
Loving JOM and Worp rn
Sloane 8)
Boak 8)
Crisp ???
Hurn ?
Quote from: Gigantor on March 23, 2019, 07:13:59 PM
Sloane 8)
Boak 8)
Crisp ???
Hurn ?
I have Boak and Crisp and I was pretty happy with both of them.
Collingwood want the ball in Crisp's hands as much as possible, it's just that his disposal efficiency was horrendous in the 1st half. I was impressed in the 4th QTR though when he started to shake the rust off.
Andrews 8)
So glad I posted in here and sold myself on Sloane.
His epic form in Adelaide continues.
I took a chance and went for the Sloane, Crouch brothers triple. (SloaneVC loop)
Paid off hansomely and they lost too.
Hope its a sign of things to come.
Not sure if Sheed is a POD, but I'm damn happy with his start
Still flying after that GF performance
Took both Crouch brothers and Hurn. Couldn’t be happier.
Oliver my only real let down so far (not counting rucks :( :()
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
You were warned he'd struggle in rd1 tbf, scoring should pick up against the weaker teams now.
Jack Steele with a big final 10 minutes to lift his score to 35 at h/t. Was on 9 points there for a while during the 2nd. All over the ground just can't get a touch. Kill me.
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 24, 2019, 02:21:46 PM
Jack Steele with a big final 10 minutes to lift his score to 35 at h/t. Was on 9 points there for a while during the 2nd. All over the ground just can't get a touch. Kill me.
I have him too. Don't worry the points will come. He's too good of an inside player not to score well. He will get his 9-10 tackles
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Jack Steele with a big final 10 minutes to lift his score to 35 at h/t. Was on 9 points there for a while during the 2nd. All over the ground just can't get a touch. Kill me.
I have him too. Don't worry the points will come. He's too good of an inside player not to score well. He will get his 9-10 tackles
Gonna top score in the game now
Edit: He was close ::)
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Jack Steele with a big final 10 minutes to lift his score to 35 at h/t. Was on 9 points there for a while during the 2nd. All over the ground just can't get a touch. Kill me.
I have him too. Don't worry the points will come. He's too good of an inside player not to score well. He will get his 9-10 tackles
Gonna top score in the game now
Edit: He was close ::)
A 115 from a game where he had sub par disposals... take that and run!
Quote from: GoLions on March 24, 2019, 12:46:21 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
You were warned he'd struggle in rd1 tbf, scoring should pick up against the weaker teams now.
;D
Just the 2 true unique prems for me
Sloane 155
Ryan 91
So far so good
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Wouldn't be concerned. That shower QLD weather did nothing for anybody
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Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Wouldn't be concerned. That shower QLD weather did nothing for anybody
Was on the 2019 AA full back as well
Quote from: GoLions on March 25, 2019, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 25, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Wouldn't be concerned. That shower QLD weather did nothing for anybody
Was on the 2019 AA full back as well
Quote from: SilverLion on March 25, 2019, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 25, 2019, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 25, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Wouldn't be concerned. That shower QLD weather did nothing for anybody
Was on the 2019 AA full back as well
I dunno Rance still played a full half the might still slip him in there
Quote from: Gigantor on March 25, 2019, 08:23:53 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 25, 2019, 08:13:09 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 25, 2019, 08:10:48 PM
Quote from: elephants on March 25, 2019, 08:09:28 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on March 24, 2019, 12:19:14 PM
my main pod is Darling which hasnt worked out this week. At least its a good sign that he managed to get 75 sc points from only 10 touches
Wouldn't be concerned. That shower QLD weather did nothing for anybody
Was on the 2019 AA full back as well
I dunno Rance still played a full half the might still slip him in there
As close and Rance will get, Andrews will just get AA. ???