Now that trading and drafting is over time to consider our best 22 for 2019. Will probably change a lot over the off season given the depth we now have.
based on the trades here is my first attempt.
B - Gardiner - Adams - Hodge
HB - Witherden - Andrews - Eagles
C - Berry - Neale - Rich
HF - Zorko - McStay - Cutler
F - Cameron - Hipwood - Mcarthy if fit
Fol - Martin - Rayner - Robinson
Int - Walker - McCluggage - Taylor - Matthieson
Eme - Big O - Bailey - Christensen - Robertson
I moved Andrews as I think he could be a McGovern type with his height and interceptions across half back. Walker a must on bench as he can cover both forward and back. Moved Rich up the ground as I believe when he realises he is under pressure to keep his spot rather than coasting he can be very damaging on the wing with his boot.
McCarthy comes straight in as in the games I have seen him play he exerts the forward pressure which we lacked when Cameron was injured so would be great to have 2 up there.
Other Players I expect to be considered during the season Starcevich. Skinner, Wooller, Cox, Payne
Playing for their futures would be Allison, Lyons, Keays, Hinge and Lester.
Expect Bastinac and Frost to be de-listed at end of their contracts.
Also with Stef out of contract next year and being 32 we should be working on which of McInerney or Archie to replace or do both play.
Lester re-signed for a year btw ringo
Will put my 22 up later today
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Cameron, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Taylor, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, Robinson
Int: Berry, Christensen, Walker, Mathieson
Emg: McInerney, Lester, Robertson/Eagles, Bastinac/Bailey
Quote from: SilverLion on October 19, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Cameron, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Taylor, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, Robinson
Int: Berry, Christensen, Walker, Mathieson
Emg: McInerney, Lester, Robertson/Eagles, Bastinac/Bailey
Close to what i was gonna post. On phone, but:
Walker out for Bailey (unless going taller in certan games)
Christensen to half back
Rich to wing
Clugg on ball
Robbo bench
And probably switch Squizz with Charlie, cause he will push up the ground more imo
Not a lot of difference in teams just positional changes, And nice position for club to be in.
Walker or McInerney have to be in as one of them will give Stef a chop out. Still concerned with need to develop our next ruck and the issue is how to do it. Obviously is Big O and Archie, Archie is by far the best tap ruck but lacks mobility around the ground whereas Big O gives the mobility. They worked well together in our NEAFL premiership year.
In my team would team Bundy with Eagles as a needs basis whether to go tall or not. Bundy in the later have of the season seemed to reinvent himself across half back.
Modern game needs a mobile ruck and the new ruck rules mean that rucks don't necessarily have to tap as much. I think Oscar McInerney is far and away a better option long term than Archie Smith all things considered, and he's not that bad as a forward either.
It would be nice to see Rich move up to a wing next year full time. With the new starting positions he could finally find himself having more of an impact on games and breaking free of a tag?
Surely McInerney gets a spot in the 22. He made a good forward presence this season and I'd say he is the future over Archie at this stage. Does he fit into the forward line? Is it too much to have McStay, Hipwood and the Big O running around in the 50 at once?
Couple those three with Cameron, Taylor and McCarthy, and we have a very exciting forward line shaping up.
Quote from: BB67th on October 22, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
It would be nice to see Rich move up to a wing next year full time. With the new starting positions he could finally find himself having more of an impact on games and breaking free of a tag?
Surely McInerney gets a spot in the 22. He made a good forward presence this season and I'd say he is the future over Archie at this stage. Does he fit into the forward line? Is it too much to have McStay, Hipwood and the Big O running around in the 50 at once?
Couple those three with Cameron, Taylor and McCarthy, and we have a very exciting forward line shaping up.
I reckon it's too tall personally. Hipwood is a lock in the team, and there was an interview (with Noble I think?) after we got Adams, and they spoke about the Adams inclusion meaning one of him or Andrews could go forward at times to help out Hipwood and McStay. Oscar will play games here and there, but I don't see it happening regularly if everyone is fit.
Here is the AFL writers best 22 fro Brisbane.
B: Darcy Gardiner, Harris Andrews, Luke Hodge
HB: Daniel Rich, Marcus Adams, Alex Witherden
C: Tom Cutler, Dayne Zorko, Hugh McCluggage
HF: Lewis Taylor, Eric Hipwood, Cameron Rayner
F: Charlie Cameron, Daniel McStay, Oscar McInerney
FOLL: Stefan Martin, Lachie Neale, Jarrod Berry
I/C: Lincoln McCarthy, Mitch Robinson, Allen Christensen, Nick Robertson
Unlucky to miss selection are Josh Walker, Zac Bailey, Rhys Mathieson and Ryan Lester,
Bring on the preseason and the competition for places. Eagles will be another who would be in the mix.
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 22, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
It would be nice to see Rich move up to a wing next year full time. With the new starting positions he could finally find himself having more of an impact on games and breaking free of a tag?
Surely McInerney gets a spot in the 22. He made a good forward presence this season and I'd say he is the future over Archie at this stage. Does he fit into the forward line? Is it too much to have McStay, Hipwood and the Big O running around in the 50 at once?
Couple those three with Cameron, Taylor and McCarthy, and we have a very exciting forward line shaping up.
I reckon it's too tall personally. Hipwood is a lock in the team, and there was an interview (with Noble I think?) after we got Adams, and they spoke about the Adams inclusion meaning one of him or Andrews could go forward at times to help out Hipwood and McStay. Oscar will play games here and there, but I don't see it happening regularly if everyone is fit.
There is this team that won the flag this season with a tall forward line comprising of resting ruck, Kennedy, Darling...
Quote from: elephants on October 23, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Quote from: GoLions on October 22, 2018, 09:53:37 PM
Quote from: BB67th on October 22, 2018, 09:48:19 PM
It would be nice to see Rich move up to a wing next year full time. With the new starting positions he could finally find himself having more of an impact on games and breaking free of a tag?
Surely McInerney gets a spot in the 22. He made a good forward presence this season and I'd say he is the future over Archie at this stage. Does he fit into the forward line? Is it too much to have McStay, Hipwood and the Big O running around in the 50 at once?
Couple those three with Cameron, Taylor and McCarthy, and we have a very exciting forward line shaping up.
I reckon it's too tall personally. Hipwood is a lock in the team, and there was an interview (with Noble I think?) after we got Adams, and they spoke about the Adams inclusion meaning one of him or Andrews could go forward at times to help out Hipwood and McStay. Oscar will play games here and there, but I don't see it happening regularly if everyone is fit.
There is this team that won the flag this season with a tall forward line comprising of resting ruck, Kennedy, Darling...
Hipwood and McStay are not Kennedy and Darling though haha
Quote from: Ringo on October 23, 2018, 07:34:41 AM
Here is the AFL writers best 22 fro Brisbane.
B: Darcy Gardiner, Harris Andrews, Luke Hodge
HB: Daniel Rich, Marcus Adams, Alex Witherden
C: Tom Cutler, Dayne Zorko, Hugh McCluggage
HF: Lewis Taylor, Eric Hipwood, Cameron Rayner
F: Charlie Cameron, Daniel McStay, Oscar McInerney
FOLL: Stefan Martin, Lachie Neale, Jarrod Berry
I/C: Lincoln McCarthy, Mitch Robinson, Allen Christensen, Nick Robertson
Unlucky to miss selection are Josh Walker, Zac Bailey, Rhys Mathieson and Ryan Lester,
Bring on the preseason and the competition for places. Eagles will be another who would be in the mix.
strong backline, your forwards and on ballers need to step up next year
Quote from: SilverLion on October 19, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Taylor, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Cameron, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, J Lyons
Int: Berry, Christensen, Robinson, Walker
Emg: McInerney, Lester/Robertson, Mathieson, Bailey
In: J Lyons
Out: Mathieson
Updated.
Probably agree with GL about Squizz playing more up the ground. Any of those emergencies could easily start too, so theres definitely competition for spots.
Lyons guaranteed best 22, so Mathieson probably goes out.
Quote from: SilverLion on November 01, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 19, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Taylor, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Cameron, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, J Lyons
Int: Berry, Christensen, Robinson, Walker
Emg: McInerney, Lester/Robertson, Mathieson, Bailey
In: J Lyons
Out: Mathieson
Updated.
Probably agree with GL about Squizz playing more up the ground. Any of those emergencies could easily start too, so theres definitely competition for spots.
Lyons guaranteed best 22, so Mathieson probably goes out.
Time will tell with Lyons certainly has some deficiencies in his game , getting let go by the struggling Suns says it all this will be his last chance.
Quote from: shaker on November 02, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on November 01, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 19, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Taylor, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Cameron, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, J Lyons
Int: Berry, Christensen, Robinson, Walker
Emg: McInerney, Lester/Robertson, Mathieson, Bailey
In: J Lyons
Out: Mathieson
Updated.
Probably agree with GL about Squizz playing more up the ground. Any of those emergencies could easily start too, so theres definitely competition for spots.
Lyons guaranteed best 22, so Mathieson probably goes out.
Time will tell with Lyons certainly has some deficiencies in his game , getting let go by the struggling Suns says it all this will be his last chance.
Haha laughable, he had clearly offended someone at the Suns. He's a walk up start in most if not all 22s, especially the absolute rabble that is GC.
Quote from: elephants on November 02, 2018, 12:32:06 PM
Quote from: shaker on November 02, 2018, 12:21:55 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on November 01, 2018, 02:58:59 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on October 19, 2018, 10:20:28 AM
FB: Hodge, Adams, Gardiner
HB: Rich, Andrews, Witherden
C: Cutler, Neale, McCluggage
HF: Taylor, Hipwood, Rayner
FF: Cameron, McStay, McCarthy
FOLL: Martin, Zorko, J Lyons
Int: Berry, Christensen, Robinson, Walker
Emg: McInerney, Lester/Robertson, Mathieson, Bailey
In: J Lyons
Out: Mathieson
Updated.
Probably agree with GL about Squizz playing more up the ground. Any of those emergencies could easily start too, so theres definitely competition for spots.
Lyons guaranteed best 22, so Mathieson probably goes out.
Time will tell with Lyons certainly has some deficiencies in his game , getting let go by the struggling Suns says it all this will be his last chance.
Haha laughable, he had clearly offended someone at the Suns. He's a walk up start in most if not all 22s, especially the absolute rabble that is GC.
Tend to agree with Elephants here, his stats this year were comparable to Cripps/Mitchell in some regards, regardless of any small deficiencies he's definitely a best 22 player at pretty much any club. Had to be a clash with the coach (possibly same for Barlow).
Also, Carlton let go of Mitch Robbo and he's turned out alright for us ;)
Saw a stat that said of the 85 pure mids in the comp Lyons was 76th in terms of disposal by foot or something
Certainly good enough for AFL though and a very nice get for Brisbane - clearly a personal issue with GC I reckon
GC just prefer Miles over Lyons and don't want to many of the same type of player on their list. Sure his stats look good so he'll be praised by people, especially on a website about fantasy football but he really doesn't have much influence on games. He's a one trick pony who is alright at his one trick but not very good at anything else. I'd prefer a midfielder who wins a few less clearances if they can get involved in more general play and maybe even kick a goal a match. He's no Dayne (either one)
You guys try and have a kicking efficiency above 20% when you're the only person that wins the ball from a GC stoppage then has to kick into their fkn fwd line ::)
Quote from: SilverLion on November 02, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
Tend to agree with Elephants here, his stats this year were comparable to Cripps/Mitchell in some regards, regardless of any small deficiencies he's definitely a best 22 player at pretty much any club. Had to be a clash with the coach (possibly same for Barlow).
Also, Carlton let go of Mitch Robbo and he's turned out alright for us ;)
Not even the same ballpark. Carlton had just come off winning a final and we had Robbo and Garlett let go for disciplinary reasons giving both away for nothing. Apparently it was a 'leadership group decision' to get both out of the club.
Lyons was dropped twice due to form/kpi's and cut with a year remaining on his contract.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on November 02, 2018, 12:56:45 PM
Saw a stat that said of the 85 pure mids in the comp Lyons was 76th in terms of disposal by foot or something
Certainly good enough for AFL though and a very nice get for Brisbane - clearly a personal issue with GC I reckon
Same article also said he doesn't have a tank/can't cover the ground well enough and is a defensive liability. The Suns also want to go with Brodie and just brought in Miles.
Lyons asked the Suns to delist him because we tabled him an offer that he preferred.
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 03, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on November 02, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
Tend to agree with Elephants here, his stats this year were comparable to Cripps/Mitchell in some regards, regardless of any small deficiencies he's definitely a best 22 player at pretty much any club. Had to be a clash with the coach (possibly same for Barlow).
Also, Carlton let go of Mitch Robbo and he's turned out alright for us ;)
Not even the same ballpark. Carlton had just come off winning a final and we had Robbo and Garlett let go for disciplinary reasons giving both away for nothing. Apparently it was a 'leadership group decision' to get both out of the club.
Lyons was dropped twice due to form/kpi's and cut with a year remaining on his contract.
They were both de-listed and we picked them both up for nothing. I'm aware they were delisted for different reasons, but the point I was making is that their flaws didn't justify their de-listings and Robbo has proven an asset to us which I believe Lyons could as well.
Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2018, 01:38:50 PM
Lyons asked the Suns to delist him because we tabled him an offer that he preferred.
Heard this too.
Quote from: SilverLion on November 03, 2018, 04:43:04 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on November 03, 2018, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on November 02, 2018, 12:54:23 PM
Tend to agree with Elephants here, his stats this year were comparable to Cripps/Mitchell in some regards, regardless of any small deficiencies he's definitely a best 22 player at pretty much any club. Had to be a clash with the coach (possibly same for Barlow).
Also, Carlton let go of Mitch Robbo and he's turned out alright for us ;)
Not even the same ballpark. Carlton had just come off winning a final and we had Robbo and Garlett let go for disciplinary reasons giving both away for nothing. Apparently it was a 'leadership group decision' to get both out of the club.
Lyons was dropped twice due to form/kpi's and cut with a year remaining on his contract.
They were both de-listed and we picked them both up for nothing. I'm aware they were delisted for different reasons, but the point I was making is that their flaws didn't justify their de-listings and Robbo has proven an asset to us which I believe Lyons could as well.
Quote from: GoLions on November 03, 2018, 01:38:50 PM
Lyons asked the Suns to delist him because we tabled him an offer that he preferred.
Heard this too.
Was in the Courier Mail Thursday confirming approach made to him by Lions and he requested the de-listing.
I reckon Matho has all but locked in a spot in the 22 for Rd1
Quote from: GoLions on March 12, 2019, 01:22:56 PM
I reckon Matho has all but locked in a spot in the 22 for Rd1
Would say so. Think it will depend a lot on where we play Rich. If Rich plays up the ground then that increases the competition but we need some pace of HB which Bailey or Cox will provide. Rich may still play HB though given Adams injury.