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Title: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Really tempted by the way Jack Henry played on the weekend, issue being JS????

Havent watched Crowden play but looks to have better JS at freo but worry about rookie small forwards and given they have GWS, dogs, WCE and Richmond coming up it looks to be a few tough weeks ahead,

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Really tempted by the way Jack Henry played on the weekend, issue being JS????

Havent watched Crowden play but looks to have better JS at freo but worry about rookie small forwards and given they have GWS, dogs, WCE and Richmond coming up it looks to be a few tough weeks ahead,

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

With Henderson and Taylor out for a while I think his job security is safe as and imo has undoubtedly greater scoring potential than crowden.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: jfitty on April 11, 2018, 10:24:29 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Really tempted by the way Jack Henry played on the weekend, issue being JS????

Havent watched Crowden play but looks to have better JS at freo but worry about rookie small forwards and given they have GWS, dogs, WCE and Richmond coming up it looks to be a few tough weeks ahead,

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

With Henderson and Taylor out for a while I think his job security is safe as and imo has undoubtedly greater scoring potential than crowden.

Henderson scheduled to be back in 1-2 weeks, but Taylor could be a while longer.

I'll personally get Crowden I think so I can link him with Garlett, but would like to read some more on Henry.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Holz on April 11, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Really tempted by the way Jack Henry played on the weekend, issue being JS????

Havent watched Crowden play but looks to have better JS at freo but worry about rookie small forwards and given they have GWS, dogs, WCE and Richmond coming up it looks to be a few tough weeks ahead,

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

With Henderson and Taylor out for a while I think his job security is safe as and imo has undoubtedly greater scoring potential than crowden.

How long are thry actually out for though?

I thought hendo was 1-2 weeks away last week.

Taylor seems like he might be out for abit

At this stage im henry just over crowden.

Tempted to skip both and pick up higgins
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 10:34:06 AM
Quote from: Holz on April 11, 2018, 10:31:42 AM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 10:12:53 AM
Quote from: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 09:36:57 AM
Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden

Really tempted by the way Jack Henry played on the weekend, issue being JS????

Havent watched Crowden play but looks to have better JS at freo but worry about rookie small forwards and given they have GWS, dogs, WCE and Richmond coming up it looks to be a few tough weeks ahead,

Look forward to hearing your thoughts!

With Henderson and Taylor out for a while I think his job security is safe as and imo has undoubtedly greater scoring potential than crowden.

How long are thry actually out for though?

I thought hendo was 1-2 weeks away last week.

Taylor seems like he might be out for abit

At this stage im henry just over crowden.

Tempted to skip both and pick up higgins

Henderson is back 1-2 but Taylor is TBC

I cant get the link with Crowden into the mids do tempted to go henry this week then if higgins goes well i trade brayshaw to higgins next week so i can have a mid/fwd in my mids
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: shaker on April 11, 2018, 10:40:07 AM
Don't like either if I had to pick for this week it would be Henry at home against Saints , Crowden away against GWS might not be that good , I'm grabbing Richards and moving Sicily FWD and passing on both
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: hawkers65 on April 11, 2018, 10:44:38 AM
No one rates Ratugolea ??
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Toga on April 11, 2018, 11:29:33 AM
vs Ratugolea?

Where the other Geelong rucks injured on the weekend or is this guy being picked as their #1 at the moment?
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: tommy10 on April 11, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on April 11, 2018, 10:44:38 AM
No one rates Ratugolea ??
Henry seems like a better pick imo. Scored 93 away in Perth which is decent. Elsava def worth considering but thinking Henry vs Crowden for Ryan. If Higgins does well next week, I can get him instead of Crowden to open up DPP. Crowden won’t score well this week against the Giants but his JS seems pretty good. At this stage I’m leaning towards Henry...just.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 11:58:24 AM
Quote from: tommy10 on April 11, 2018, 11:31:40 AM
Quote from: hawkers65 on April 11, 2018, 10:44:38 AM
No one rates Ratugolea ??
Henry seems like a better pick imo. Scored 93 away in Perth which is decent. Elsava def worth considering but thinking Henry vs Crowden for Ryan. If Higgins does well next week, I can get him instead of Crowden to open up DPP. Crowden won’t score well this week against the Giants but his JS seems pretty good. At this stage I’m leaning towards Henry...just.

Im in the same boat here, worry about ratugolea as smith and stanley arent listed as injured? i think he may keep his spot but on reduced ruck time and only play forward similar to his first game
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
If they aren't listed as injured then that also suggests Geelong are keen to get some games into him. Pretty athletic type so definitely a possibility!
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:13:56 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.

My thoughts exactly!
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: frenzy on April 11, 2018, 12:24:13 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.

Didn't Nic Nat give him a big rap after last weeks game ? I seem to remember seeing it somewhere.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: duffercoat on April 11, 2018, 12:27:25 PM
Quote from: Toga on April 11, 2018, 12:07:56 PM
If they aren't listed as injured then that also suggests Geelong are keen to get some games into him. Pretty athletic type so definitely a possibility!

Neither Stanley or Smith are injured. Smith was dropped for the hawks match and the Stanley was a late out for Scott Selwood for match up/strategic purposes apparently. Chris Scott mentioned it in the post match presser last week.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Ricochet on April 11, 2018, 12:38:42 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.
Hadn't really considered him tbh, but will have to look at him over Crowden/Henry
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: waldorfs wizards on April 11, 2018, 01:12:52 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 11, 2018, 12:12:49 PM
Smith is definitely not injured, he was dropped for the Hawks game. If they roll without Stanley again this week I'll pick the Rat because the man playing 1R is more likely to score better, thus making more cash.

Well that changes my thinking then! If hes getting a gig over them now thats a massive plus!
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 01:18:08 PM
I really rate the rat! I duno how he can be overlooked to be honest.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: batt on April 11, 2018, 01:42:42 PM
Sav looks the best of the 3 by eye.... but by the numbers he doesn't compare, particularly as a forward.  Risking him pumping out a 30 on field isn't worth it IMO.

I think in terms of scoring it goes:

Henry > Crowden > Sav

but in terms of JS it probably goes:

Henry < Crowden < Sav
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
Quote from: batt on April 11, 2018, 01:42:42 PM
Sav looks the best of the 3 by eye.... but by the numbers he doesn't compare, particularly as a forward.  Risking him pumping out a 30 on field isn't worth it IMO.

I think in terms of scoring it goes:

Henry > Crowden > Sav

but in terms of JS it probably goes:

Henry < Crowden < Sav
Is Ratugoleas JS that good tho?
One bad game and Smith could come straight back in? Or Crameri/Stanley?
Not really sure about any of those 3 tbh.

Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: batt on April 11, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
Is Ratugoleas JS that good tho?
One bad game and Smith could come straight back in? Or Crameri/Stanley?
Not really sure about any of those 3 tbh.
Cats fans really like him, and he structurally fits a whole lot better with their forwards.  He doesn't have the tank to play as a ruck and I don't think Scott will use him that way because of it.  As a leading tall, pinch hitting ruck is what most Cats fans seem to view as his role.  That's why his scoring potential is relatively low.

My confidence in his JS is based on how much Cats fans love him and the way he plays.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.

Yeah I’m with you, I think his scoring alone will make him a good cash cow and if can string even a few games together can make some quick cash. If Higgins scores well this week and is named for a game 3 I think it will force ppl to have to trade for him. There is the risk he gets dropped after 2 games but tigers will play him this year and I would use him as a loophole option
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Nige on April 11, 2018, 03:14:09 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week
Sam Lloyd wasn't bad, but he's unlucky one to make way for Caddy I would say. Unless they make a statement and drop Townsend, but I don't think that will happen because he plays that defensive forward role and doesn't need to get a heap of the ball in his role.

Dion for Conca might be the way Prestia gets in.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Bully on April 11, 2018, 03:20:40 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Higgins is playing the small forward role vacated by Rioli, Bolton got first dibs but didn't impact the game to a sufficient level. Hardwick will not alter the premiership template, the only threat to Higgins is another small forward forcing him out. I honestly can't see that happening over the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Bully on April 11, 2018, 03:26:32 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.

Yeah I’m with you, I think his scoring alone will make him a good cash cow and if can string even a few games together can make some quick cash. If Higgins scores well this week and is named for a game 3 I think it will force ppl to have to trade for him. There is the risk he gets dropped after 2 games but tigers will play him this year and I would use him as a loophole option

The flipside to that is if he plays he can take the E most weeks as Richmond play a lot of early games. Someone like Langdon can then be used to loop.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Can’t see short getting dropped ... he’s a gun for them defensively imo
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Bully on April 11, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Can’t see short getting dropped ... he’s a gun for them defensively imo

Short is one of Hardwick's fall-guys, one bad performance and he's back on the block. In any case, it's not relevant to Higgins who is playing a completely different role.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Gavdroid on April 11, 2018, 04:40:51 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 03:52:33 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on April 11, 2018, 03:47:58 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 11, 2018, 03:16:53 PM
Quote from: shaker on April 11, 2018, 03:08:05 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:57:33 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 11, 2018, 02:44:51 PM
Quote from: Mantis on April 11, 2018, 02:39:29 PM
Where does Higgins fit in this equation. I don’t really want to field venables with Langdon still out for a few weeks. I’m tempted to go a week early as don’t want tonsideways venables as of yet in the hope he can have a decent game and make more cash. Richmond have Brisbane this week and if caddy is named with Higgins will be tempted to bring him in over the other rookies on the bubble, seems to have he best scoring potential

Higgins won't get dropped on the back of a 2 goal debut, Bolton did ok in the ressies but still has a truckload of work to do with his defensive pressure. The only real threat is Rioli but he's weeks away. Given Higgins scored 29 tons in the 32 junior matches I'd be making him a priority.
Doesn't Prestia still have to come in? I knew he's not a fwd but that's another spot.
Yes and Caddy back Tiges have a heap of small FWD's I'd even be wary of getting Higgins even if he gets a third game but lets see how he goes this week

For someone like Higgins, I kind of look at how guys like Butler etc broke into the side

If you play well enough each, you hold your spot

If Higgins plays well this week, then he should hold his spot, even with Caddy and Prestia returning

Just looking at last weeks team, guys like Short and Lloyd would be just as much a chance to get dropped

It will come down to how well Higgins plays

Can’t see short getting dropped ... he’s a gun for them defensively imo

Short is one of Hardwick's fall-guys, one bad performance and he's back on the block. In any case, it's not relevant to Higgins who is playing a completely different role.

Short is under pressure from Broad. Lloyd and Conca for Prestia and Caddy, Higgins is holding Rioli's spot
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: DunnyBrush on April 11, 2018, 10:47:09 PM
Quote from: batt on April 11, 2018, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 11, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
Is Ratugoleas JS that good tho?
One bad game and Smith could come straight back in? Or Crameri/Stanley?
Not really sure about any of those 3 tbh.
Cats fans really like him, and he structurally fits a whole lot better with their forwards.  He doesn't have the tank to play as a ruck and I don't think Scott will use him that way because of it.  As a leading tall, pinch hitting ruck is what most Cats fans seem to view as his role.  That's why his scoring potential is relatively low.

My confidence in his JS is based on how much Cats fans love him and the way he plays.

Think you are spot on Batt, Rat brings something new and exciting to the club, Stanley was piss poor against the Hawks in the ruck, not sure why Smith is on the outer but Murdoch and Stanley haven't done themselves any favours recently.

The Rat will get games but his scoring might not be what you would want.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: tor01doc on April 12, 2018, 03:47:15 PM
So if Zac’s back we can choose between a Jack, a Zac and a Mitch.

Which one?

And to you older folk listening out there, what ever happened to

Henry (0 players)
Robert (0)
Peter (2 but 0 games between them)
Thomas (2 for 0)
Richard - only 1
John (0)?

Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: SilverLion on April 12, 2018, 03:50:09 PM
Quote from: tor01doc on April 12, 2018, 03:47:15 PM
So if Zac’s back we can choose between a Jack, a Zac and a Mitch.

Which one?

And to you older folk listening out there, what ever happened to

Henry (0 players)
Robert (0)
Peter (2 but 0 games between them)
Thomas (2 for 0)
Richard - only 1
John (0)?
Re: Langdon, he's confirmed to not play this week, but they've said he's highly likely for next week.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Rowdy26 on April 12, 2018, 04:41:07 PM
Been tossing up between these 2 all week. Leaning towards Henry at this stage given Geelong's injuries helping his JS
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 12, 2018, 04:44:53 PM
I hope it doesn't hurt me too much but not picking either of these guys

I've got 2 LTI's plus Lobb and Arma so I can't even consider these blokes

Blessing in disguise I hope  :-\
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 05:25:33 PM
Not sold on Crowden. Could be out when Hill returns.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: tommy10 on April 12, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
Hopefully Higgins plays welll again which would be easy decision to get him next week and not regret passing on Crowden.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Nige on April 12, 2018, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on April 12, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
Hopefully Higgins plays welll again which would be easy decision to get him next week and not regret passing on Crowden.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: PowerBug on April 12, 2018, 10:00:14 PM
Quote from: Nige on April 12, 2018, 06:26:46 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on April 12, 2018, 05:44:48 PM
Hopefully Higgins plays welll again which would be easy decision to get him next week and not regret passing on Crowden.
Team news ends that hope.


I'll be getting Crowden I think, the extra 6k and DPP might come in handy. I don't see either of them having huge upside and I don't plan to start either so I'm not too worried if I get this call wrong.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
Yeah no Higgins flowers things up.
Are people with Ryan now thinking either Crowden or Henry have to come in now given no other fwd rookies on immediate horizon?
If so which one and why?
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Bully on April 12, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
Yeah no Higgins flowers things up.
Are people with Ryan now thinking either Crowden or Henry have to come in now given no other fwd rookies on immediate horizon?
If so which one and why?

Matt Guelfi is a good option so I'll just wait and see how he goes. No need to panic.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 11:02:46 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
Yeah no Higgins flowers things up.
Are people with Ryan now thinking either Crowden or Henry have to come in now given no other fwd rookies on immediate horizon?
If so which one and why?

Matt Guelfi is a good option so I'll just wait and see how he goes. No need to panic.
Haha hard not to panic when I've got Ryan(traded in for ZGL) Venaspud and Keefe F6-8.
Guess I could just trade ZGL back in but Venaspud will have to go too...
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: sammy123 on April 12, 2018, 11:04:00 PM
Got crowden his dP is too valuable
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: tor01doc on April 12, 2018, 11:24:45 PM
Fogarty?
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:10:22 AM
Found this thread really helpful :)

I'd love to see more dedicated "Player v Player" threads like this to encourage detailed discussion.

The "Player X v Player Y" megathread really isn't that helpful when you often get a 1 word answer from 1 person before everyone moves to the next comparison.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2018, 12:14:40 AM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2018, 10:47:55 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 12, 2018, 10:15:03 PM
Yeah no Higgins flowers things up.
Are people with Ryan now thinking either Crowden or Henry have to come in now given no other fwd rookies on immediate horizon?
If so which one and why?

Matt Guelfi is a good option so I'll just wait and see how he goes. No need to panic.
Yep, exactly.

And if what Leon Cameron said holds true, we could see ZGL back next week potentially which is great for those of us who still have him.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: SilverLion on April 13, 2018, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:10:22 AM
Found this thread really helpful :)

I'd love to see more dedicated "Player v Player" threads like this to encourage detailed discussion.

The "Player X v Player Y" megathread really isn't that helpful when you often get a 1 word answer from 1 person before everyone moves to the next comparison.
It has its niche I think. These threads are good for situations like this where a lot of people are going to be making a similar comparison.

For individual ones that are unique to a person's team I would say the megathread is better, just keeps the forum tidier.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:36:36 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 13, 2018, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:10:22 AM
Found this thread really helpful :)

I'd love to see more dedicated "Player v Player" threads like this to encourage detailed discussion.

The "Player X v Player Y" megathread really isn't that helpful when you often get a 1 word answer from 1 person before everyone moves to the next comparison.
It has its niche I think. These threads are good for situations like this where a lot of people are going to be making a similar comparison.

For individual ones that are unique to a person's team I would say the megathread is better, just keeps the forum tidier.

The reason I started coming here a few years ago was because it was relatively "un-moderated" and it excelled at having a heap of well-answered topics tailored to particular scenarios/comparisons. It was unique and provided a refreshing point of difference to "tidy" forums like BigFooty, Supercoach Coach, Supercoach Scores & Too Serious. Now it is pretty much the same as all these sites unfortunately.

I found the search function really helpful to find discussion before starting a thread too. Even if you started a thread and it got lost behind all the others, just bump it and you would always get a few responses at the very least. Fan Footy's glory days IMO :)
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Nige on April 13, 2018, 10:16:49 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:36:36 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on April 13, 2018, 12:19:33 AM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:10:22 AM
Found this thread really helpful :)

I'd love to see more dedicated "Player v Player" threads like this to encourage detailed discussion.

The "Player X v Player Y" megathread really isn't that helpful when you often get a 1 word answer from 1 person before everyone moves to the next comparison.
It has its niche I think. These threads are good for situations like this where a lot of people are going to be making a similar comparison.

For individual ones that are unique to a person's team I would say the megathread is better, just keeps the forum tidier.

The reason I started coming here a few years ago was because it was relatively "un-moderated" and it excelled at having a heap of well-answered topics tailored to particular scenarios/comparisons. It was unique and provided a refreshing point of difference to "tidy" forums like BigFooty, Supercoach Coach, Supercoach Scores & Too Serious. Now it is pretty much the same as all these sites unfortunately.

I found the search function really helpful to find discussion before starting a thread too. Even if you started a thread and it got lost behind all the others, just bump it and you would always get a few responses at the very least. Fan Footy's glory days IMO :)
The latter is still very much the case.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: PowerBug on April 13, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Quote from: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 12:36:36 AM
The reason I started coming here a few years ago was because it was relatively "un-moderated" and it excelled at having a heap of well-answered topics tailored to particular scenarios/comparisons. It was unique and provided a refreshing point of difference to "tidy" forums like BigFooty, Supercoach Coach, Supercoach Scores & Too Serious. Now it is pretty much the same as all these sites unfortunately.

I found the search function really helpful to find discussion before starting a thread too. Even if you started a thread and it got lost behind all the others, just bump it and you would always get a few responses at the very least. Fan Footy's glory days IMO :)
Hey mate, what parts makes you think that we're now the same as the other sites? What is it that we (as mods) should look at doing/not doing moving forward in your opinion?

Search function is still there, not sure how good it is from the few times I've used it. Also those glory days were fantasy footballs glory days too, when the numbers were twice as big as we have now.


Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.
Aaaaaaand now I'm back to thinking Henry is better... :-\
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.

massive rookie POD, only 400 teams last I checked.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.

massive rookie POD, only 400 teams last I checked.

12,097 teams (and counting) have brought him in this week mate, hardly a POD.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.

massive rookie POD, only 400 teams last I checked.

12,097 teams (and counting) have brought him in this week mate, hardly a POD.

Lol, mine still says 0.2% 297 teams, dunno whats going on there.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.

massive rookie POD, only 400 teams last I checked.

12,097 teams (and counting) have brought him in this week mate, hardly a POD.

Lol, mine still says 0.2% 297 teams, dunno whats going on there.

The ownership percentages are not live during the week, they don't update continually, only at the conclusion of a round.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 04:34:51 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:12:43 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on April 13, 2018, 04:02:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on April 13, 2018, 03:59:11 PM
Quote from: Hogan17 on April 13, 2018, 02:16:01 PM
Henry only 39% game time first game then pumps out a score in the 90's. JS probably better than Crowden. I'm picking the better JS and better scoring player over DPP personally.

massive rookie POD, only 400 teams last I checked.

12,097 teams (and counting) have brought him in this week mate, hardly a POD.

Lol, mine still says 0.2% 297 teams, dunno whats going on there.

The ownership percentages are not live during the week, they don't update continually, only at the conclusion of a round.

thank you, knew it must of been something like that. I should subscribe obviously, one day.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: MontyJnr on April 13, 2018, 06:51:23 PM
Quote from: PowerBug on April 13, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Hey mate, what parts makes you think that we're now the same as the other sites? What is it that we (as mods) should look at doing/not doing moving forward in your opinion?

Search function is still there, not sure how good it is from the few times I've used it. Also those glory days were fantasy footballs glory days too, when the numbers were twice as big as we have now.

I think merging everything into "Player X v Player Y" & "Round X Trades" threads makes it similar to other sites. I liked that Fan Footy was different in that respect.

The search function isn't as effective as it used to be because there just isn't much detailed discussion anymore. This could be a result of fantasy football's drop in popularity like you say, but I wouldn't rule out the change in forum dynamics being a factor to why people have left.
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: GoSaints3 on April 13, 2018, 11:20:15 PM
Tossing up between these two or ed Richards. His scoring looks decent but thoughts on Richards job security? Or do I sit tight and wait for Mirra?
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: essendon2 on April 14, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Crowden DPP handy, JS looks a bit better.

Henry certainly higher scoring potential though

So who knows :o ???
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: tkringle on April 14, 2018, 01:35:33 PM
Quote from: essendon2 on April 14, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Crowden DPP handy, JS looks a bit better.

Henry certainly higher scoring potential though

So who knows :o ???

Going with Henry as i already have a MID/FWD DPP link.

Crowden scored 29 points in 80 minutes game time in round 2 which is a worry
Title: Re: Jack Henry VS Mitch Crowden
Post by: ubeaut on April 14, 2018, 01:38:04 PM
Quote from: essendon2 on April 14, 2018, 01:13:15 PM
Crowden DPP handy, JS looks a bit better.

Henry certainly higher scoring potential though

So who knows :o ???
Is Crowdens JS really any better than Henry's tho?