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Title: Hibberd
Post by: walloo44 on March 31, 2018, 11:03:46 PM
Couldn’t find a topic for this so thought I’d start one.
Two pretty disappointing scores especially when he’s a decent amount more than the likes of Shaw savage Lloyd etc.
is it too early to call ancorrsction trade in him, personally I’m thinking
hibberd â€"> Simpson or savage
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on March 31, 2018, 11:06:17 PM
Thinking I might swap him out for Simpson, depending on what other correctional trades I need to do (no others planned).

Doesn't look to be quite the same as last year. Hasn't exactly had 2 shockers though so might be worth holding for now.

He was on about 70 at 3QT, just couldn't get amongst it in the last when points were up for grabs
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:13:20 PM
I'll be punting him, not against getting him back but looks like he'll be shedding some serious cash.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:23:00 PM
With Crouch out, I need to burnish a trade there.

So I’ll have to decide between bringing English in or getting rid of Hibberd in a correctional trade. Not a fan of getting rid of someone o consider a premium. I’m sure he will come good... just is dropping coin!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2018, 11:28:12 PM
I had Simpson and Shaw in my side for so damn long

This pretty much sums it up

@FantasyFreako
Loss of kick-ins will no doubt impact Hibberd's fantasy output. #SuperCoach #AFLFantasy

Hibberd to Simpson/Shaw is looking tempting. Goes against all the rules, but Hibberd will bleed heaps of cash at this rate
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:32:20 PM
Don't think it goes against the rules, sometimes it pays to be decisive and take advantage of BEs.

Watched Shaw today and he looks back to his best, think he will be a top 3 defender this year. This is a good opportunity to get a better player & put some cash in the bank.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.

Why not get both?
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on March 31, 2018, 11:36:41 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.

I feel like getting the rookies right is more important with correctional trades.. Get English then take a look at Hibberd.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.

Why not get both?

M. Crouch
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.

Why not get both?

M. Crouch

2 options, grab him now presuming you have trades this week. Or hold Crouch for a week.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:42:48 PM
ONly have 3K in bank so can’t get English now... plus using Cameron as the loophole.

Holding Crouch for a week sounds like the ideal solution... or English being omitted!!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Gigantor on March 31, 2018, 11:56:07 PM
Will have a BE of around 170.....
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on March 31, 2018, 11:59:35 PM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 31, 2018, 11:56:07 PM
Will have a BE of around 170.....

I knew I was paying top dollar when I started him

I wasn't expecting 100+ every week, but I was expecting 90+ and much better than what he has done

Not taking much kick ins too, so he needs to go I think

Hibberd to Shaw nets 85k too
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: billnats on April 01, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
Which defender do we go?
- Simpson
- Yeo
- Shaw
- Sicily
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Quote from: billnats on April 01, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
Which defender do we go?
- Simpson
- Yeo
- Shaw
- Sicily

Not Yeo
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on April 01, 2018, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: Gigantor on March 31, 2018, 11:56:07 PM
Will have a BE of around 170.....

Goneski, will be my first trade next week.

Quote from: billnats on April 01, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
Which defender do we go?
- Simpson
- Yeo
- Shaw
- Sicily

Shaw for me.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: PowerBug on April 01, 2018, 12:11:12 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:40:21 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:37:53 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 31, 2018, 11:36:14 PM
Quote from: billnats on March 31, 2018, 11:33:55 PM
Do I trade Hibberd knowing his losing $$$ or bring in English knowing he will make it. Anything over 80 points again tomorrow and English may make the decision for me.

Why not get both?

M. Crouch

2 options, grab him now presuming you have trades this week. Or hold Crouch for a week.
Or trade Crouch to English and cop the points hit for a week?
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: iZander on April 01, 2018, 12:12:35 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2018, 12:03:36 AM
Quote from: billnats on April 01, 2018, 12:02:57 AM
Which defender do we go?
- Simpson
- Yeo
- Shaw
- Sicily

Not Yeo

Simmo, no doubt
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: quinny88 on April 01, 2018, 01:12:56 AM
It's Simmo vs Shaw for me. Gonna be a hard call that I ponder all week
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tommy10 on April 01, 2018, 01:32:03 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on April 01, 2018, 01:12:56 AM
It's Simmo vs Shaw for me. Gonna be a hard call that I ponder all week
Shaw looking very tempting and save extra $$
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: sammy123 on April 01, 2018, 01:33:03 AM
Still going by my dont trade a premmo rule
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tkringle on April 01, 2018, 02:09:07 AM
Out for Shaw..
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on April 01, 2018, 02:39:06 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get

Shaw enables other trades to be made before the price rises. A bit different to rage trading.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: enzedder on April 01, 2018, 05:49:36 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get
Possibly.
I’m considering this trade for next week based on Shaw scoring well in two games and Hibberd scoring low in two games.
Premo for Premo trades are usually a waste and solid advice is to conserve the trade and not go sideways.
However Shaw is doing well and looking like he is back to playing the role he used to with Wilson and co gone.
I haven’t seen Hibberd play but his scoring is a worry as is the reading that he is taking fewer kick ins.
I have what appears a solid team and Hibberd to Shaw could be the best trade I could make next week.
There’s a bit of cash to add to the coffers too.

Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Jalapeno on April 01, 2018, 06:12:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get

This ^^^

Hibberd, in my opinion will be a top 4 defender so you need to hold. You all picked him for a reason, so back your reason and hold
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: SilverLion on April 01, 2018, 07:26:20 AM
Quote from: Jalapeno on April 01, 2018, 06:12:58 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get

This ^^^

Hibberd, in my opinion will be a top 4 defender so you need to hold. You all picked him for a reason, so back your reason and hold
Agreed.

You guys are crazy for jumping off so quick. Sure he's been a bit underwhelming, but are you really going to burn a trade just because he's gunna lose some cash? Mind you, come mid-year, he'll probably have made the cash back up anyways.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tkringle on April 01, 2018, 08:24:31 AM
Will need another ~100K to get Danger in for Armitage in a couple of weeks. Hibberd to Shaw facilitates this
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: no eye deer on April 01, 2018, 08:29:38 AM
Quote from: tkringle on April 01, 2018, 08:24:31 AM
Will need another ~100K to get Danger in for Armitage in a couple of weeks. Hibberd to Shaw facilitates this

Exactly. Except I need the cash for Dusty. Not willing to wait for byes to get him. He’s a must have now, and if I have to sideways Hibberd to Shaw, so be it.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: iZander on April 01, 2018, 08:33:26 AM
losing $$$ doesont matter if hes a keeper, i think that trade could be more valuable down the track
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: justaverage on April 01, 2018, 08:35:31 AM
Would you be trading him if you only had 5 trades?

Its a long season.... just saying ::)
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: frenzy on April 01, 2018, 08:52:28 AM
Yet again another quality buy stock in a couple of weeks  8)
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: ubeaut on April 01, 2018, 09:59:12 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get
That's what people said about Shaw last year. He just never came good.
Hibberd is taking far less kick ins, Lever is taking the intercepts more now.
So it's a role change, small one but significant for SC.
I would argue it's chasing FUTURE points.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: petefisker on April 01, 2018, 10:05:46 AM
Has anyone got stats as to why Hibberd's had the drop off?
No kick outs? Efficiency? Lock down role change? I need some info over the 2 games if i'm gona make the move to Shaw/Sicily (pending tomorrow for Sicily).
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 01, 2018, 10:47:01 AM
Quote from: petefisker on April 01, 2018, 10:05:46 AM
Has anyone got stats as to why Hibberd's had the drop off?
No kick outs? Efficiency? Lock down role change? I need some info over the 2 games if i'm gona make the move to Shaw/Sicily (pending tomorrow for Sicily).

Read the previous posts lol

Not taking much kick ins now, and not being used as much as "the man" down back

Agree with ubeaut regarding the future points
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: enzedder on April 01, 2018, 10:49:02 AM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 01, 2018, 09:59:12 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on April 01, 2018, 02:33:04 AM
ppl trading him are chasing points they can't get
That's what people said about Shaw last year. He just never came good.
Hibberd is taking far less kick ins, Lever is taking the intercepts more now.
So it's a role change, small one but significant for SC.
I would argue it's chasing FUTURE points.
This ^^^^^^^^^^^
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on April 01, 2018, 11:33:51 AM
I've had some time to cool off and not quite ready to 'rage trade' Hibberd just yet.

Still had 20 touches in both games, and like I mentioned earlier in here, he was on 70 at 3QT, just wasn't amongst it in the last quarter.

Might see if any rookies need to go, if not, I'll look to swap him out. Still feel like he'll be top 10 (it's only round 2), but the Shaw from last year comparison really hits home!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Woppa15 on April 01, 2018, 12:47:02 PM
If I traded him it would be for either Simmo or Shaw. Simmo seems to be the man at Carlton this year and Shaw seems to be back to his best and cheap!

However, I had the same situation with Hanners last year. Traded him early due to a few poor games and it bit me on the arse.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: SilverLion on April 01, 2018, 12:48:19 PM
Quote from: Woppa15 on April 01, 2018, 12:47:02 PM
If I traded him it would be for either Simmo or Shaw. Simmo seems to be the man at Carlton this year and Shaw seems to be back to his best and cheap!

However, I had the same situation with Hanners last year. Traded him early due to a few poor games and it bit me on the arse.

I had Hanners last year, traded him after Rd. 2 to Higgins via DPP. Didn't regret it in the slightest.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: quinny88 on April 01, 2018, 02:03:23 PM
Weather Hibbo stays or goes largely depends on what happens in today and tomorrow's games.
I have Venables, Ryan, Barry, Naughton all on the chopping block and I'm eying off English, Fogarty and Bonner so the performances of those players will be the ultimate factor
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RoughRed on April 01, 2018, 02:35:50 PM
For me the decision on Hibberd will depend on M crouch outlook
If hammy =2 weeks I will hold both
If more than two weeks
Hibberd =>Shaw
Crouch => Danger/Dusty
All my rooks to date are playing and performing to expectations so no changes there
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Mat0369 on April 01, 2018, 03:32:18 PM
One thing to look at with Hibberd is his previous scoring history. Last year was one out of the box, it was always going to be hard to replicate this year. Looking at stats, the kick to handball ratio is way down compared to his 90+ seasons. It's at 1.2 which is tied with his year at the Dons where he averaged low 80's. He needs to get that up to a 1.5 to average 90ish.

They don't seem to be getting a big contribution from any of their defenders at the moment FF wise. It looks like it's a fairly even spread and everyone is scoring quite poorly. I probably wouldn't be trading him yet, but it's a matter of bleeding cash which could be the issue. Simmo, Laird, Lloyd and a fit Yeo are about the only defenders I trust to be true premiums. I think the rest will be a bit of a crapshoot so you might be better waiting until round 5 before making a call. Maybe there is a way you can help turn a mid rookie into Danger at that point.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Nige on April 01, 2018, 08:45:35 PM
This is one I'm thinking about quite hard.

I didn't have Hibberd originally but then got encouraged to get him but was never overly sold. Figured I'd be paying the price for a reason. No doubt that he can score in the right role but doesn't appear to be doing it at the moment.

Simmo vs Heater is a tough call. Got them both in a draft team so I've been able to monitor with intent and it's hard to split them. I think I'll go Heater simply to pocket the cash because that's the only real reason I can see that separates the two.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Torpedo10 on April 01, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
I don't know why everybody is jumping onto a Hibberd->Shaw deal so quickly.

I've watched both Blues/Giants games, and Simpson is playing a much more active role in his team structure than Heater, and hence more likely for Heater to throw a stinker. I started with Heater, but am personally worried about how long he can keep up this form without playing overly well.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: MontyJnr on April 01, 2018, 09:24:03 PM
Quote from: Torpedo10 on April 01, 2018, 09:18:56 PM
I don't know why everybody is jumping onto a Hibberd->Shaw deal so quickly.

I've watched both Blues/Giants games, and Simpson is playing a much more active role in his team structure than Heater, and hence more likely for Heater to throw a stinker. I started with Heater, but am personally worried about how long he can keep up this form without playing overly well.

Both Simmo & Heater are likely Top 6 defenders, but the cash gained from the Heater downgrade is too good to resist.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: WhatsSC??? on April 06, 2018, 09:40:45 AM
With Jayden Hunt being dropped, do you think Hibberd will score more??

but long term is it better to bring in Simpson or hold Hibberd and ride the rollercoaster!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2018, 11:07:26 AM
I'm torn with what to do with this bloke, but my gut says trade

Not because I don't think he can go 90+ and be a keeper because you'd be silly to come to that conclusion off two games, but because the cash I save by trading him now can be used to really improve my overall side

I'll bring him back in if he warrants it, but I'm just treating this like a correctional trade, and not as much as trading out a prem, if that makes sense

I've come to the conclusion that I probably should have started with a slightly different team structure, and with the addition of Bonner I can drop Hibberd as we have good def rookies and I can get my other lines right

Once he shows that he is back to getting 25+ touches a game and 90+ he can come back in, but until then he is out for me and I'll be using the funds to better my team overall
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on April 06, 2018, 11:30:04 AM
I've been pondering it way too much as well RD!

I think you're right, with Bonner and 3 defensive rookies scoring decently you can definitely get away with dropping him and picking up a premium elsewhere. This is what I'm leaning towards doing.

The frustrating part is his price. At 550k you don't want doubts, you want good scores. Guys around that price range include Laird, Parker, Buddy, Heppell, Wines, Cripps who are all averaging 100+, and so they should be for that price.

The thing for me is working out what I would be happy with as a score this week. If he goes 110+, all is almost forgiven, but anything below about 85 and you'd be looking at a huge price drop, and potentially a guy you're stuck with for a while. Not sure I want to take that risk just to have him go 70 again.

I really want to use his price tag and some money in the bank to bring in Oliver, it's just hard trading premos!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Holz on April 06, 2018, 12:19:37 PM
id give him 1 more week.

1. As a north fan i know all too well that defenders in particular HBFers can have big days against us.

2. Jayden Hunt is out and that could help him also.

3. If he pumps out another 70 then he drops about 40k which isnt devastating and you can make alot more cash bringing in other guys this week.

4. If he fails you also get to see Ed Richards for another week and Coeffield for the first time. If he fails could always go down to 1 of these guys and use alot of cash elsewhere.


Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Nige on April 06, 2018, 01:10:52 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth
Bingo.

One of the reasons I decided to keep him.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: _wato on April 06, 2018, 01:11:04 PM
You’d be mad to drop this week imo
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on April 06, 2018, 01:27:17 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth

Hmm okay that's brought back a little bit of faith. It makes more sense that Tom McDonald being out has forced him to play third tall, rather than old men like Vince and Lewis taking points.

Might survive this week after all.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Gigantor on April 06, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
Dammit I was set to trade him now I'm not sure haha
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on April 06, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
I mean to be fair last season he did score two 60's and a 50, maybe we've just seen his basement scores for the season?

Trying to figure out what to do.. :P
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:46:53 PM
Quote from: jfitty on April 06, 2018, 01:41:49 PM
I mean to be fair last season he did score two 60's and a 50, maybe we've just seen his basement scores for the season?

Trying to figure out what to do.. :P
The only scenario I would be mad about is if Hibberd scores 120 and Simpson an 80. Both go 80 or 120, I'm not too fussed (would prefer both go 80 tbh, that way I know I'm happy I jumped off before the price drop and have more faith in Simpson from here on out). If I trade, 3 of 4 possible scenarios are a "win" for me - which makes the trade still seem tempting.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2018, 02:28:29 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 01:09:20 PM
Michael Hibberd: "With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it's probably my biggest strength." #AFLDeesNorth

Like I said above, I think he will still be a keeper and should be able to hit 90+, but I think I am still going to trade him for the reasons I mentioned, although I'll admit I wish I didn't hear him say that  ;D
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Brikett on April 06, 2018, 02:40:55 PM
Not taking kickouts anymore, not floating across half back as the spare taking intercept marks because that's Lever's job.

He may still go 90+ but I'd have more confidence in someone like Simpson or Shaw and you can bank a bit of cash in the process.

"Don't trade out your underperforming premiums" they'll say.

I disagree, sticking with an underperforming premo is just as risky as trading them out. (See Hanners, Shaw etc)

Majority of us here have got the rookies pretty well.

I always budget for two correctional trades in round two anyway, so the loss of a trade here doesn't bother me.

Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tommy10 on April 06, 2018, 03:19:04 PM
Yep he’s gone for me as it’s a correctional trade to improve my side. Shaw provides plenty of cash to go Naughton to Bonner and still have a little left over.

It could be mind games, but if his role does change and be back to where it was last year, and if he starts to string of a couple of decent games together, then I can always get him back for a rookie who’s maxed. So it’s a wait and see and need to be convinced before bringing him back.
Im sure people would have expected for Lever to take a lot of their intercept marks and perhaps Hibberd can still take a couple, but what we didn’t expect from him is why he isn’t taking the kick ins etc. which has hurt his scoring and really made the decision for me now to part with him.

Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Hogan17 on April 06, 2018, 03:34:45 PM
The not taking kickouts in itself is a major concern. Too many concerns for Hibberd for mine so he is out for Bonner and Rayner upgraded to Bundy or Taranto.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Adamant on April 06, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Not sure why anyone would spend 540k on a defender coming off a season yielding numbers that are ridiculously hard to maintain for a rebounder, only to lose the faith after two scores in the 70s.

The argument that he's not taking the kickouts anymore is also a bit ironic considering people are going to Shaw. Wasn't Finlayson taking the kickouts the reason why people didn't pick him in the first place?
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Southstorm on April 06, 2018, 03:52:57 PM
I'd probably swap him this week if I didn't have bigger problems, but he gets a week's reprieve from me at the moment. Even if he loses $40k, can still swap him for Simmo next week
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on April 06, 2018, 03:54:41 PM
Quote from: Adamant on April 06, 2018, 03:50:46 PM
Not sure why anyone would spend 540k on a defender coming off a season yielding numbers that are ridiculously hard to maintain for a rebounder, only to lose the faith after two scores in the 70s.

The argument that he's not taking the kickouts anymore is also a bit ironic considering people are going to Shaw. Wasn't Finlayson taking the kickouts the reason why people didn't pick him in the first place?

The only reason I picked Hibberd was because it was between him and Simpson (who I had for ages)

Laird, Hibberd and Simpson were the only 3 prems I liked, but now that I have Sicily and Bonner who can do the job behind Laird that's why I'm personally moving him on

It's basically a structural thing for me. I can now get another forward prem (getting those rookies off field) or upgrade Arma if he doesn't improve.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
Melbourne have posted a full article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-04-06/frosts-return-to-freeup-hibberd

“With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it’s probably my biggest strength,” he said.

“I don’t think I’ve been horrible so far this year, but I don’t think I’ve been shooting the lights down either.

“Hopefully I can just keep building and the more match fitness I get, the better form I’ll get into. The more matches I play, the better I’ll be.”

Still, Hibberd said he didn’t mind playing a deeper, one-on-one role, if the team needed it.

“It’s a little bit of an adjustment, but it’s nothing I haven’t done before,” he said.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: enzedder on April 06, 2018, 06:15:38 PM
That article changes everything for me. Was set to trade but if he plays the high rebounding role the points will come.
The reason Roberton was a good pick last year was because Carlisle and Brown freed him up to be the +1. If Frosts inclusion does that for Hibberd he will increase his possession count and the 70s will become 90s or 100s. He's only had 20 possies in both of the 2 games so far....not good for his SC scoring.
If by chance Hibberd goes 70 odd again and Shaw scores 110 again I can still do that trade next week. Might nett me only 30k for the coffers as opposed to 87k if I do it this week. All things considered I will try and save the trade. Will reassess next week, but I'm determined not carry him if he keeps failing to deliver.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Samsturmfels on April 06, 2018, 06:49:50 PM
are we sure frost wont be playing in the fwd line though? considering hes named there and hogan only tall forward
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Ringo on April 06, 2018, 07:16:35 PM
Quote from: Samsturmfels on April 06, 2018, 06:49:50 PM
are we sure frost wont be playing in the fwd line though? considering hes named there and hogan only tall forward
Since when do players play where they are named?   ;)
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: StuL on April 07, 2018, 12:08:22 AM
I bet he gets 120 tomorrow but I bit the bullet and flicked him. Only one ton in his career v North. Should pump out another 70 something which would def have been terminal but wouldn't be surprised if he raises the bat too.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: MontyJnr on April 07, 2018, 12:17:38 AM
I'm still trading him, but it's more about how well Shaw is doing.

The cash gained from a downgrade to a potential (likely even) top 6 defender sets up another attractive upgrade for me.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: ubeaut on April 07, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
Melbourne have posted a full article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-04-06/frosts-return-to-freeup-hibberd

“With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it’s probably my biggest strength,” he said.

“I don’t think I’ve been horrible so far this year, but I don’t think I’ve been shooting the lights down either.

“Hopefully I can just keep building and the more match fitness I get, the better form I’ll get into. The more matches I play, the better I’ll be.”

Still, Hibberd said he didn’t mind playing a deeper, one-on-one role, if the team needed it.

“It’s a little bit of an adjustment, but it’s nothing I haven’t done before,” he said.
I so wish I hadn't read this. Or at least ignored it. I decided to give him another chance based off this instead of my planned rage trade to Simmo.
It's total bull. Lever is being freed up and Hibberd is doing SFA.
2 handballs in a quarter of footy? Flower me.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tkringle on April 07, 2018, 03:42:21 PM
Lift Hibberd, LIFT!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Southstorm on April 07, 2018, 03:42:47 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on April 07, 2018, 03:38:35 PM
Quote from: Huttabito on April 06, 2018, 03:58:31 PM
Melbourne have posted a full article: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2018-04-06/frosts-return-to-freeup-hibberd

“With Frosty back this week, it might free me up a bit, which will allow me to use my run and carry, as it’s probably my biggest strength,” he said.

“I don’t think I’ve been horrible so far this year, but I don’t think I’ve been shooting the lights down either.

“Hopefully I can just keep building and the more match fitness I get, the better form I’ll get into. The more matches I play, the better I’ll be.”

Still, Hibberd said he didn’t mind playing a deeper, one-on-one role, if the team needed it.

“It’s a little bit of an adjustment, but it’s nothing I haven’t done before,” he said.
I so wish I hadn't read this. Or at least ignored it. I decided to give him another chance based off this instead of my planned rage trade to Simmo.
It's total bull. Lever is being freed up and Hibberd is doing SFA.
2 handballs in a quarter of footy? Flower me.
Lever is trying his hand at butchery as well today by the looks. About as accurate as a drunk pissing behind a dumpster.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: GoLions on April 07, 2018, 04:12:13 PM
Gun
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: walloo44 on April 07, 2018, 04:14:50 PM
Just not finding enough footy for mine. Was better than this at half time last week and lack of footy cost him again. Not sold unless he can find more ball
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Huttabito on April 07, 2018, 04:23:46 PM
8 point first quarter before a 41 point second - very questionable how that was worth 41 point but such is SC scoring.

Still not taking kick ins and don't mind passing him on, think in the long run (regardless a 90+ score this week) will be the right call.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: bkimm32 on April 07, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
18 possessions 7 contested, 1 tackle and 6 marks for 92 points?
flowerin bullshower. Should be lucky to have 70.

Hibberd owners got lucky.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: TomK on April 07, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 07, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
18 possessions 7 contested, 1 tackle and 6 marks for 92 points?
flowerin bullshower. Should be lucky to have 70.

Hibberd owners got lucky.
10 intercept possessions is what got him there.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: bkimm32 on April 07, 2018, 07:02:55 PM
Quote from: TomK on April 07, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 07, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
18 possessions 7 contested, 1 tackle and 6 marks for 92 points?
flowerin bullshower. Should be lucky to have 70.

Hibberd owners got lucky.
10 intercept possessions is what got him there.
Still very, very generous scoring imo!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tkringle on April 07, 2018, 07:16:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on April 07, 2018, 07:01:04 PM
Quote from: bkimm32 on April 07, 2018, 06:58:42 PM
18 possessions 7 contested, 1 tackle and 6 marks for 92 points?
flowerin bullshower. Should be lucky to have 70.

Hibberd owners got lucky.
10 intercept possessions is what got him there.

This.. I held but still a bit of a worry
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: sammy123 on April 08, 2018, 12:35:25 AM
Still probably gunna hold
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on April 08, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
Think in the long run I'll be happy to hold Hibberd.

Yesterday's game was more what I would expect. Doesn't need to get a heap of touches, but uses it effectively and gets a number of intercepts.

Simpson only just outscored him, and Shaw stunk it up (the 2 I was considering). I guess with defenders you have to get used to a few down games throughout the year, so hopefully he's already had his 2 lower scoring games.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Nige on April 08, 2018, 05:32:56 PM
Quote from: jfitty on April 08, 2018, 02:05:08 PM
Think in the long run I'll be happy to hold Hibberd.

Yesterday's game was more what I would expect. Doesn't need to get a heap of touches, but uses it effectively and gets a number of intercepts.

Simpson only just outscored him, and Shaw stunk it up (the 2 I was considering). I guess with defenders you have to get used to a few down games throughout the year, so hopefully he's already had his 2 lower scoring games.
Yep, this pretty much nails my line of thinking as well. Might have been a slow start but I think he's building into things, plays a friendly game and is consistent when he's up and about.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 07, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Last 2 weeks Hibberd has scored 99 and 96

437k

What do we think?

I started him and punted him after R1/2 but at that price he might be worth bringing back in now

Bonner to Hibberd for 125k does sound attractive compared to 220k for Simmo/Yeo etc
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Bully on May 07, 2018, 08:05:50 PM
Hasn't hit the ton once this year, reckon the days of big scores is over. Yeo is the man you need & isn't unreasonably priced.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: ubeaut on May 07, 2018, 08:06:16 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 07, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Last 2 weeks Hibberd has scored 99 and 96

437k

What do we think?

I started him and punted him after R1/2 but at that price he might be worth bringing back in now

Bonner to Hibberd for 125k does sound attractive compared to 220k for Simmo/Yeo etc
Don't do it to yourself. I hate watching Hurley and Simpson dominate week in week out while Hibberd limps to 90 odd points max. Last two games vs Bombers and Saints, won't do it against top teams. No kick ins. Lever taking intercept role. He relies on big disposal numbers due to uncontested game.
Booting him along with Billings and Goldy was the right move and I kept all of them.
Hurley,Simpson,Yeo,Laird,Sicily get em all before Hibberd.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: jfitty on May 07, 2018, 09:34:01 PM
Keep an eye on him, but don't do it to yourself just yet.

Seems to be playing better with TMac back, but wouldn't trust him until we see some tons.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Big Mac on May 07, 2018, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: jfitty on May 07, 2018, 09:34:01 PM
Keep an eye on him, but don't do it to yourself just yet.

Seems to be playing better with TMac back, but wouldn't trust him until we see some tons.

Yeah the backline is definitely functioning a lot better and no doubt hibberd's improvement is related to that. But at the end of the day with Lewis/Vince/Salem/Hunt all spending a lot of time in the backline, Hibberd being the best defender of all of them has to take a much more accountable role at times.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: sammy123 on May 07, 2018, 09:57:16 PM
I noticed yesterday he handballed alot in the first half. But in the second half he did some nice rebounding kicks
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: waldorfs wizards on May 08, 2018, 08:49:58 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 07, 2018, 07:41:33 PM
Last 2 weeks Hibberd has scored 99 and 96

437k

What do we think?

I started him and punted him after R1/2 but at that price he might be worth bringing back in now

Bonner to Hibberd for 125k does sound attractive compared to 220k for Simmo/Yeo etc

Think you would want to see at least one ton before bringing him in IMO
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Big Mac on May 21, 2018, 03:46:25 PM
WC have the bye R12, Dees R13

will strongly consider going Hibberd to Yeo after west coast's bye
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: BomberSam on May 21, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Traded this spud out four weeks ago. Winning!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: RaisyDaisy on May 21, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on May 21, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Traded this spud out four weeks ago. Winning!

4 weeks ago? I traded him out after R2 - that's winning!
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Wanderer on May 21, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 21, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on May 21, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Traded this spud out four weeks ago. Winning!

4 weeks ago? I traded him out after R2 - that's winning!
Winning is not having him from the start  :P
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Judd Magic on May 22, 2018, 12:13:59 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on May 21, 2018, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on May 21, 2018, 10:28:40 PM
Quote from: BomberSam on May 21, 2018, 08:21:41 PM
Traded this spud out four weeks ago. Winning!

4 weeks ago? I traded him out after R2 - that's winning!
Winning is not having him from the start  :P
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: Eric the Eel on May 23, 2018, 10:49:53 AM
After i trade Kelly to Dusty, I'm left with 75k to upgrade Hibberd.
Thinking either Hurn or Kade, is it worth trading even with their bye around the corner?
Had enough of hibberd and want to get rid of him before he goes <400k

Def: Laird Sicily Yeo Witherden Hibberd Doedee (Mirra, Murphy)
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: bonebones on May 23, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
Let's not forget that in a genius move by Bendan Bolton last week he tagged Hibberd effectively, I can't imagine any coach with any sense is likely to repeat that. I'm expecting him to bounce back.
Title: Re: Hibberd
Post by: tor01doc on May 23, 2018, 11:16:36 AM
Quote from: bonebones on May 23, 2018, 11:09:15 AM
Let's not forget that in a genius move by Bendan Bolton last week he tagged Hibberd effectively, I can't imagine any coach with any sense is likely to repeat that. I'm expecting him to bounce back.

Bounce back?

To his crappy high 70's / low 80's average.

Glad to be rid of him..and Billings for that matter.

BE 129 - jump off now if you can.