It seems to me that this year I am tempted to start with more rookies priced above 160k than ever before - Dow, A Brayshaw, LDU, Coffield, H Clark - just based on one JLT game I know. but throw in Brodie, Rayment and even Stephenson based on reputation and we could have some tough choices to make as it will almost certainly mess with your structure if you go with more than 2 or three of these guys. If named rd 1 how many will you be taking?
That is going to depend on how many of the cheaper type rookies get named R1 I have finished changing my team till that happens can't see any point doing it , it's just a waiting and watching game now
I think I agree, looks like the more expensive rookies will all be in good situations this year.
Brayshaw, Dow, Brodie and LDU will all get a good share of midfield time, with guys like Stephenson and Hunter Clark having plenty of opportunity too.
Will depend how many cheaper rookies get a game round 1, but at the moment I've got 4 of the above guys with Coffield in the backline
I don't plan on starting any of them
Just hope I'm not forced to due to lack of cheap rookies
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
I don't plan on starting any of them
Just hope I'm not forced to due to lack of cheap rookies
Same here, would rather spend the money on upgraded a 450k defender to a 500k defender etc.
Brodie is the only one I think I will start as he as already had a year in the system and could get huge midfield minutes.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 01, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
I don't plan on starting any of them
Just hope I'm not forced to due to lack of cheap rookies
Same here, would rather spend the money on upgraded a 450k defender to a 500k defender etc.
Brodie is the only one I think I will start as he as already had a year in the system and could get huge midfield minutes.
Despite GAJ leavind GC still have a deep midfield. Swallow,Hall,Lyons,Weller,Barlow,Hanley,Miller,Martin etc.
You'd think Dow and LDU would have much more opportunities in the mids given North and Carlton's lineup.
Brodie and Brayshaw look better players from the little I've seen and Brodie having a year in system already obviously helps.
The problem with starting 0 or 1 high priced rookies (as much as we'd love to use the cash elsewhere in team) is if u choose cheaper ones that flop or get dropped while a few LDU types do well how do u make rookie corrections trades without affecting the premiums and structure of your team?
Quote from: ubeaut on March 01, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 01, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
I don't plan on starting any of them
Just hope I'm not forced to due to lack of cheap rookies
Same here, would rather spend the money on upgraded a 450k defender to a 500k defender etc.
Brodie is the only one I think I will start as he as already had a year in the system and could get huge midfield minutes.
Despite GAJ leavind GC still have a deep midfield. Swallow,Hall,Lyons,Weller,Barlow,Hanley,Miller,Martin etc.
You'd think Dow and LDU would have much more opportunities in the mids given North and Carlton's lineup.
Brodie and Brayshaw look better players from the little I've seen and Brodie having a year in system already obviously helps.
The problem with starting 0 or 1 high priced rookies (as much as we'd love to use the cash elsewhere in team) is if u choose cheaper ones that flop or get dropped while a few LDU types do well how do u make rookie corrections trades without affecting the premiums and structure of your team?
Correcting down is definitely easier. If Dow or LDU dont work out its an easy swap to another rookie. Getting stuck with somrone like i did with Eddy last year I want to avoid.
I think it's harder to get the rookie selections right, than it is to select Premiums. The premiums have history on their side, the rookies are the great unknown.
Quote from: ubeaut on March 01, 2018, 11:52:10 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 01, 2018, 11:10:47 AM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2018, 10:55:19 AM
I don't plan on starting any of them
Just hope I'm not forced to due to lack of cheap rookies
Same here, would rather spend the money on upgraded a 450k defender to a 500k defender etc.
Brodie is the only one I think I will start as he as already had a year in the system and could get huge midfield minutes.
Despite GAJ leavind GC still have a deep midfield. Swallow,Hall,Lyons,Weller,Barlow,Hanley,Miller,Martin etc.
You'd think Dow and LDU would have much more opportunities in the mids given North and Carlton's lineup.
Brodie and Brayshaw look better players from the little I've seen and Brodie having a year in system already obviously helps.
The problem with starting 0 or 1 high priced rookies (as much as we'd love to use the cash elsewhere in team) is if u choose cheaper ones that flop or get dropped while a few LDU types do well how do u make rookie corrections trades without affecting the premiums and structure of your team?
If those names equal a deep midfield then they are screwed lol.
Brodie will get stacks of opportunity as an in-and-under type mid. They desperately need a player in that roll
im looking to start alot of them.
Im prepared to drop a premo to pick up 4-5 high priced rookies over 3-4 cheap rookies and a premo.
Quote from: Holz on March 01, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
im looking to start alot of them.
Im prepared to drop a premo to pick up 4-5 high priced rookies over 3-4 cheap rookies and a premo.
Apart from Dow and Brodie, who do you like?
Have a crack at writing out Gold Coast's best 22, Brodie isn't an automatic lock.
Not a GC fan but I don't think he is a lock.
Quote from: Levi434 on March 01, 2018, 03:41:46 PM
Not a GC fan but I don't think he is a lock.
After GC's first JLT game he will be your captain.
I hate starting expensive rookies but I think this is the year we may have to due to the lack of quality cheap rookies or even having enough playing round 1 in respective positions.
I'm hoping not to start many though so as it stands I have an expensive D5 and M6 and none up forward but Bundy at F5.
Quote from: Colty on March 01, 2018, 02:26:23 PM
Quote from: Holz on March 01, 2018, 02:24:43 PM
im looking to start alot of them.
Im prepared to drop a premo to pick up 4-5 high priced rookies over 3-4 cheap rookies and a premo.
Apart from Dow and Brodie, who do you like?
Braysahw LDU Stephenson and then not really a rookie by basically rookie priced Byrne 220k. Im looking at the stkilda guys and Rayner too.
I actually dont have Brodie in my sqaud.
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
I ended up with way too many rookies that got dropped early on in the year and really did affect cash generation and I was forced to burn trades doing sideways trades between rookies. Happy to pay for the rookies that are going to play. Dow Brodie LDU Brayshaw all look good, I reckon I will pick 2 of those and Stephenson up forward and possibly Coffield down back if they are looking like getting a solid crack early on. I guess it will depend on everyone's structure to and how many rookies you are carrying in your side.
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
Yeah they seem to be the popular rookies at this stage. Just not confident even if a lot of those start that they hold their spots. Maybe I am still suffering from my rookie burns last season haha
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
As far as the cheapies that you have mentioned go;
Murray, Ahern and Worpel not named for JLT1 doesn't bode well for a round 1 debut.
Banfield, Finlayson, Mirra, Holman and Garlett will HOPEFULLY play round 1 but none are guaranteed.
Doedee, Kelly, Barry, Fritsch and Ryan are likely to play round 1.
Not looking great!
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 01, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
As far as the cheapies that you have mentioned go;
Murray, Ahern and Worpel not named for JLT1 doesn't bode well for a round 1 debut.
Banfield, Finlayson, Mirra, Holman and Garlett will HOPEFULLY play round 1 but none are guaranteed.
Doedee, Kelly, Barry, Fritsch and Ryan are likely to play round 1.
Not looking great!
Haha yeah as soon as I posted this the teams were announced with a couple missing. I can only assume Murray and Worpel are being managed as they both played really well in their respective intra club matches and have been talked up by their clubs all pre season.
It's just one of those things you can't really lock in until the Thursday of round 1. Confident there will be enough cheap options though with 2-3 more expensive rookies in my side
This is the important question this season.
Every year I fight like heck to run with a Guns-'n-Rookies set-up:
12-13 premiums
1-2 mid-pricers
8 Rookies (with a maximum of 3 160k+ Rookies)
This season my lack of faith in the 102K â€" 149K Rookies is forcing me to consider a mid-pricer approach (with more cash invested in top-tier Rookies). I feel very uncomfortable with the side I'm currently sitting on; but I think I have to trust my read.
11 Premiums
3 Mid-Pricers
8 Rookies (with 5 160K+ Rookies)
i.e. -1 prem/+1 mid-pricer to allow for two additional 160K+ Rookies.
I can't tell you how much I want to reverse this. But my gut-feel is to take the short-term pain for a guaranteed cash cow return. I'd rather over-invest and correct down, than end up with three Rookies who're struggling to put together five games.
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 01, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
As far as the cheapies that you have mentioned go;
Murray, Ahern and Worpel not named for JLT1 doesn't bode well for a round 1 debut.
Banfield, Finlayson, Mirra, Holman and Garlett will HOPEFULLY play round 1 but none are guaranteed.
Doedee, Kelly, Barry, Fritsch and Ryan are likely to play round 1.
Not looking great!
Haha yeah as soon as I posted this the teams were announced with a couple missing. I can only assume Murray and Worpel are being managed as they both played really well in their respective intra club matches and have been talked up by their clubs all pre season.
It's just one of those things you can't really lock in until the Thursday of round 1. Confident there will be enough cheap options though with 2-3 more expensive rookies in my side
Am I right in saying that forwards are prob were the least rookie gold is? excluding rucks of course.
Quote from: Colty on March 02, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 01, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
As far as the cheapies that you have mentioned go;
Murray, Ahern and Worpel not named for JLT1 doesn't bode well for a round 1 debut.
Banfield, Finlayson, Mirra, Holman and Garlett will HOPEFULLY play round 1 but none are guaranteed.
Doedee, Kelly, Barry, Fritsch and Ryan are likely to play round 1.
Not looking great!
Haha yeah as soon as I posted this the teams were announced with a couple missing. I can only assume Murray and Worpel are being managed as they both played really well in their respective intra club matches and have been talked up by their clubs all pre season.
It's just one of those things you can't really lock in until the Thursday of round 1. Confident there will be enough cheap options though with 2-3 more expensive rookies in my side
Am I right in saying that forwards are prob were the least rookie gold is? excluding rucks of course.
Yes, it's looking that way. I think we will need to go deeper in FWD than DEF or MID.
Currently have Christensen at F5 and Fritsch at F6. I think the cheap Eagles boys need to sit on the bench due to their low scoring potential.
Quote from: Colty on March 02, 2018, 09:23:34 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 05:58:39 PM
Quote from: ben_020285 on March 01, 2018, 04:57:50 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 01, 2018, 04:47:24 PM
The situation isn't that dire is it?
Fritsch and Banfield have already come out of left field to put their hand up for a round 1 debut. There will be others that perform over the JLT.
At the moment I have
D: Doedee, Murray, Finlayson, Mirra
M: Brodie, Kelly, Worpel, Barry, Holman, Ahern
F: Stephenson, Fritsch, Garlett, Ryan
So only 2 expensive rookies with 80k in the bank if I need to upgrade 1 or 2 but I'm confident there will be enough cheap options around. The main area I'd like them to pop up more is the backline. Pretty confident in the forward and mid options
As far as the cheapies that you have mentioned go;
Murray, Ahern and Worpel not named for JLT1 doesn't bode well for a round 1 debut.
Banfield, Finlayson, Mirra, Holman and Garlett will HOPEFULLY play round 1 but none are guaranteed.
Doedee, Kelly, Barry, Fritsch and Ryan are likely to play round 1.
Not looking great!
Haha yeah as soon as I posted this the teams were announced with a couple missing. I can only assume Murray and Worpel are being managed as they both played really well in their respective intra club matches and have been talked up by their clubs all pre season.
It's just one of those things you can't really lock in until the Thursday of round 1. Confident there will be enough cheap options though with 2-3 more expensive rookies in my side
Am I right in saying that forwards are prob were the least rookie gold is? excluding rucks of course.
Having huge issues with F6, really want to bring in another rookie but no-one has put there hand up. Will give Stephensen & Poholke more time but not looking good.
I've got 4 150k+ guys. Stephenson, LDU, Clark are very close. Not touching Rayner with a 50ft pole, be shocked if he gets midfield time!
Currently have 3 150K+ guys. Brayshaw, Dow and Naughton. I don't love my backline at all so it Naughton stinks it up in JLT I'll make changes.
We shall see. I like Brayshaw but am currently getting by with no exy rookies.
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Quote from: DunnyBrush on March 03, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Rather go more mid pricers to be honest.
Quote from: Sonnydark on March 01, 2018, 10:58:45 PM
This is the important question this season.
Every year I fight like heck to run with a Guns-'n-Rookies set-up:
12-13 premiums
1-2 mid-pricers
8 Rookies (with a maximum of 3 160k+ Rookies)
This season my lack of faith in the 102K â€" 149K Rookies is forcing me to consider a mid-pricer approach (with more cash invested in top-tier Rookies). I feel very uncomfortable with the side I'm currently sitting on; but I think I have to trust my read.
11 Premiums
3 Mid-Pricers
8 Rookies (with 5 160K+ Rookies)
i.e. -1 prem/+1 mid-pricer to allow for two additional 160K+ Rookies.
I can't tell you how much I want to reverse this. But my gut-feel is to take the short-term pain for a guaranteed cash cow return. I'd rather over-invest and correct down, than end up with three Rookies who're struggling to put together five games.
+1 This is exactly how I view selection each year.
Quote from: Bully on March 03, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: DunnyBrush on March 03, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Rather go more mid pricers to be honest.
Cos that always works out well ???
Quote from: DCAK on March 04, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 03, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: DunnyBrush on March 03, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Rather go more mid pricers to be honest.
Cos that always works out well ???
Sometimes is does mate, Oliver, Murphy & Kelly for example. Or in the forwards, Ryder, Nankervis & Higgins. Or Witts in the ruck.
Need to look beyond starting prices & attempt to estimate scoring potential & $$ generation. Reckon you should post a more current team and explain your selections.
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: DCAK on March 04, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Cos that always works out well ???
Sometimes is does mate, Oliver, Murphy & Kelly for example. Or in the forwards, Ryder, Nankervis & Higgins. Or Witts in the ruck.
Need to look beyond starting prices & attempt to estimate scoring potential & $$ generation. Reckon you should post a more current team and explain your selections.
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Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: DCAK on March 04, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 03, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: DunnyBrush on March 03, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Rather go more mid pricers to be honest.
Cos that always works out well ???
Sometimes is does mate, Oliver, Murphy & Kelly for example. Or in the forwards, Ryder, Nankervis & Higgins. Or Witts in the ruck.
Need to look beyond starting prices & attempt to estimate scoring potential & $$ generation. Reckon you should post a more current team and explain your selections.
I believe the answer lies somewhere between these two arguments.
I agree there aren't enough Rookies in the 102K - 149K range this season. Normally I take around two (no more than three!) 150K - 249K Rookies; but this year I'm sitting on six!
(By my definition a mid-pricer is 250K - 450K)
As much as I'd prefer to weight my team with mid-pricers, there isn't the same depth of quality as there was last year.
Witts was manner-from-heaven; but I think it's generally accepted this is a set-'n-forget Ruck season.
Ryder offered extreme value (low 400s I think) as an F3/R option; you could compare him to Sicily this season.
Oliver (380K I think) & Kelly (I forget) were freakish options (I didn't have the courage to start with either, even though both were brightly lit on my radar); and M. Murphy (NOT MID-PRICER!). Coniglio is the only low 400K option that comes close in potential, but I don't believe he'll finish anywhere near the top 8 mids come season's end.
O'Meara, Watson, and Beams, were the low 300K options last season. I started with Beams & Swallow (280K I think). This season we have O'Meara again, and Armitage. I'm not tempted by either. Neither of these will do what Beams did last season.
Only Sicily entices me as someone who can become a keeper.
(Although Coniglio could be suitable for M8, I already have Cripps; and I don't want Cripps & Coniglio occupying M7 & M8 in my completed team: it's strong now, but will be weak in the end).
For me, if I'm reading it correctly, this season's value lies with the low-end mid-pricers & high-end Rookies:
Sicily + Dunkley & Christensen + SIX $150K - 250K Rookies (including C. Ellis & A. Brayshaw @ Freo).
This allows me to run with my preferred Guns-'n-Rookies set-up:
12 Premiums (8 ultra-prems + Simpson; Cripps; Goldstein; Walters/McLean)
3 Mid-Prices (one top-end / two low-end)
7 Rookies (4 top-end starting Rookies / 2 top-end bench Rookies)
(I'm happy to post my current team, but don't feel like this is the space to do so)
In thirteen years of Supercoach I've only run with a Mid-Pricer strategyy twice (i.e. 4 plus players in the 250K - 450K band): 2009, when I finished 53rd overall; and 2010, when I finished 30,000+ overall. Conclusion: mid-pricers will deliver you to heaven very, very rarely; and to hell very, very, regularly.
Quote from: Sonnydark on March 04, 2018, 05:13:43 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2018, 04:10:29 PM
Quote from: DCAK on March 04, 2018, 02:09:57 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 03, 2018, 02:57:50 PM
Quote from: DunnyBrush on March 03, 2018, 11:12:47 AM
Those who try to skim this year on rookies are going to get destroyed.
Money making is the number one priority.
Rather go more mid pricers to be honest.
Cos that always works out well ???
Sometimes is does mate, Oliver, Murphy & Kelly for example. Or in the forwards, Ryder, Nankervis & Higgins. Or Witts in the ruck.
Need to look beyond starting prices & attempt to estimate scoring potential & $$ generation. Reckon you should post a more current team and explain your selections.
I believe the answer lies somewhere between these two arguments.
I agree that there aren't enough Rookies in the 102K - 149K range this season. Normally I take around two (no more than three!) 150K - 249K Rookies; but this year I'm sitting on six!
As much as I'd prefer to weight my team with mid-pricers, there isn't the same depth of quality as there was last year.
Witts was manner from heaven; but I think it's generally accepted that this is a set-'n-forget Ruck season.
Ryder offered extreme value (low 400s I think) as an F3/R option; you could compare him to Sicily this season.
Oliver (380K I think) and Kelly (I forget) were freakish options (I didn't have the courage to start with either, even though they were both brightly lit on my radar). Coniglio is the only low 400K option that comes close in potential, but I don't believe he'll finish anywhere near the top 8 mids come season's end.
O'Meara; Watson; Beams were the low 300K options last season. I started with Beams & Swallow (280K I think). This season we have O'Meara again, and Armitage. I'm not tempted by either. Neither of these will do what Beams did last season.
Only Sicily entices me as someone who can become a keeper.
(Although Coniglio could be a suitable candidate for M8, I already have Cripps; and I don't want Cripps and Coniglio occupying M7 & M8: it's strong now, but will be weak at the end).
For me, if I'm reading it correctly, this season's value lies with the low-end mid-pricers and the high-end Rookies:
Sicily + Dunkley & Christensen + six $150K - 250K Rookies (including C. Ellis & A. Brayshaw @ Freo).
This allows me to run with my preferred Guns-'n-Rookies set-up:
12 Premiums (8 ultra-premiums)
3 Mid-Prices (one top-end / two low-end)
7 Rookies (4 top-end starting Rookies / 2 top-end Rookies on the bench)
(I'm happy to post my current team, but don't feel like this is the space to do so)
Like this kid, just thought I'd bring him to a few more people's attention as he is a
FWD
I look at my team and I realised I now have all of
Coffield
Naughton
Dow
Uniacke
Brodie
Stephenson
In my side.
Feel happy with the structure.
*just realised I forgot to put in
Barry And fritsch into my lineup so will have to make room.
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
If there's a heap of rookies (e.g. Kelly, Barry, Banfield etc) pushing for one spot is it worth forgetting Armitage?
Armitage probably likely to score a few more ppg early than those blokes but the coin you save could potentially be the difference between an upgrade elsewhere on the field
Quote from: Toga on March 04, 2018, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
If there's a heap of rookies (e.g. Kelly, Barry, Banfield etc) pushing for one spot is it worth forgetting Armitage?
Armitage probably likely to score a few more ppg early than those blokes but the coin you save could potentially be the difference between an upgrade elsewhere on the field
Also consider the cash generation from a rookie
Quote from: Dudge on March 04, 2018, 11:27:55 PM
Quote from: Toga on March 04, 2018, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
If there's a heap of rookies (e.g. Kelly, Barry, Banfield etc) pushing for one spot is it worth forgetting Armitage?
Armitage probably likely to score a few more ppg early than those blokes but the coin you save could potentially be the difference between an upgrade elsewhere on the field
Also consider the cash generation from a rookie
Exactly, the cash benefits could be twofold: savings and cash generation. Just something worth thinking about!
Quote from: Toga on March 04, 2018, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
If there's a heap of rookies (e.g. Kelly, Barry, Banfield etc) pushing for one spot is it worth forgetting Armitage?
Armitage probably likely to score a few more ppg early than those blokes but the coin you save could potentially be the difference between an upgrade elsewhere on the field
The other factor is that you don't want mid rookies going 70+ on your bench, while fwd and def rookies are on field scoring lower
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
Why not two mid pricers or more?
Conigs is currently M5 for me, but I don't see the difference myself. I must be the minority, because I don't pick mid pricers with the intentions of them having to be a keeper. If they turn out keepers, bonus. Mid pricers are so much easier to turn into ultra premo, go sideways and or even chip down to a rookie that you may of missed. If Conigs can get a modest gain $, I'll probably turn him into Dusty/Jelwood. That's if he's not killen it, then I'll keep him.
Quote from: Toga on March 04, 2018, 11:22:53 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
If there's a heap of rookies (e.g. Kelly, Barry, Banfield etc) pushing for one spot is it worth forgetting Armitage?
Armitage probably likely to score a few more ppg early than those blokes but the coin you save could potentially be the difference between an upgrade elsewhere on the field
I know what you’re saying and again this is only JLT 1, will wait and see how they go game 2 which will give us all a better indication which way to go. I still think Armitage will be a pretty good return imo. He probably won’t have the year he had in 2015 where he averaged almost 110, but if he’s averaging at least 95-100 or more, he could generate some good coin and upgrade someone to a fallen premo or if you have the cash to a super premo. I like Conglio and would prefer him as he could be a keeper at worst at M8 depending on my situation or sit nicely at M9 but it’s trying to find that extra cash and sacrifice other lines.
Quote from: frenzy on March 04, 2018, 11:54:06 PM
Quote from: tommy10 on March 04, 2018, 10:58:25 PM
Will wait till JLT 2 but atm it’s a toss up between Brodie/Dow/Brayshaw for M7. Am leaving 1 spot for either Kelly/Barry/Banfield/Holman. Have Arma at M6 as my mid pricer as I think there’s value there. Although I like Conigs, I can’t fit him at M6, and picking him at M5 will be too light. Let’s see, might find a way to still fit Conigs at M6 ;)
Why not two mid pricers or more?
Conigs is currently M5 for me, but I don't see the difference myself. I must be the minority, because I don't pick mid pricers with the intentions of them having to be a keeper. If they turn out keepers, bonus. Mid pricers are so much easier to turn into ultra premo, go sideways and or even chip down to a rookie that you may of missed. If Conigs can get a modest gain $, I'll probably turn him into Dusty/Jelwood. That's if he's not killen it, then I'll keep him.
I just don’t like too many mid pricers but will wait and see..will be a bonus if that’s the case especially with the shower FWD rookies this year.
My midfield setup is currently:
M1-4: Danger, Dusty, Titch, Fyfe who i see as the true 120+ candidates.
M5: Cripps who is heading into his prime and has already scored extremely well in the past (110 avg)
M6: Coniglio who I see scoring around 105 for the season and being my M8 (Murphy last season) but could change to Libba or even Redden
M7: O'meara who could go close too 100 for the season but should go 90+ meaning he will have good cash generation and also out score rookies comfortably will be a late upgrade too a super premium me thinks. Armitage in the same boat but just like O'meara that little bit more at this stage.
M8-M11: Barry, Kelly, Banfield and Holman who all look good for a 65 average at basement price. If Worpel looks best 22 he is also in the same boat.
D5 and F5 look secured by Doedee and Fritsch leaving only D6 and F6 who could be occupied by a Coffield/Stephenson type or a Finlayson/Garlett type. I am confident in rookies this season so don't think going expensive is the way to go at this stage.
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 09:59:58 AM
My midfield setup is currently:
M1-4: Danger, Dusty, Titch, Fyfe who i see as the true 120+ candidates.
M5: Cripps who is heading into his prime and has already scored extremely well in the past (110 avg)
M6: Coniglio who I see scoring around 105 for the season and being my M8 (Murphy last season) but could change to Libba or even Redden
M7: O'meara who could go close too 100 for the season but should go 90+ meaning he will have good cash generation and also out score rookies comfortably will be a late upgrade too a super premium me thinks. Armitage in the same boat but just like O'meara that little bit more at this stage.
M8-M11: Barry, Kelly, Banfield and Holman who all look good for a 65 average at basement price. If Worpel looks best 22 he is also in the same boat.
D5 and F5 look secured by Doedee and Fritsch leaving only D6 and F6 who could be occupied by a Coffield/Stephenson type or a Finlayson/Garlett type. I am confident in rookies this season so don't think going expensive is the way to go at this stage.
How are you affording all that? I practically have the same set up but it can only fit in the salary cap if you have gone mid price in either forwardf4 ruckr2 or defensed4
Smith, Petracca, Sicily is my current F1-F3
^ Ew
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:13:53 PM
Smith, Petracca, Sicily is my current F1-F3
Who's at F4?
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:13:53 PM
Smith, Petracca, Sicily is my current F1-F3
Who's at F4?
Bundy
Too weak, you need to stack the forward line otherwise the Sicily link will be largely redundant. No way could you expose 3 forward rookies. I'm reluctant to play even 2.
Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 01:48:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:13:53 PM
Smith, Petracca, Sicily is my current F1-F3
Who's at F4?
Bundy
Too weak, you need to stack the forward line otherwise the Sicily link will be largely redundant. No way could you expose 3 forward rookies. I'm reluctant to play even 2.
I dunno, having Bundy at F4 with 2 rookies, or maybe Stephenson and a 123k isn't that weak.
Though if starting Sicily and Smith, the 3rd prem would have to be someone proven IMO.
Quote from: SilverLion on March 05, 2018, 01:53:09 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 01:48:18 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:39:59 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 05, 2018, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2018, 01:13:53 PM
Smith, Petracca, Sicily is my current F1-F3
Who's at F4?
Bundy
Too weak, you need to stack the forward line otherwise the Sicily link will be largely redundant. No way could you expose 3 forward rookies. I'm reluctant to play even 2.
I dunno, having Bundy at F4 with 2 rookies, or maybe Stephenson and a 123k isn't that weak.
Though if starting Sicily and Smith, the 3rd prem would have to be someone proven IMO.
Small forwards versus rebounders, I'd be backing the defence rookies every day of the week. Stephenson offers a little more but he comes with a price tag.
have got enough money in the bank to make Petracca Heeney but I really think Smith and Petracca are in for big years.