In a similar vein to the D4 thread. Who is filling these places for u and why?
Finding along with D4 tough positions to fill.
There's LOBB with groin issues and limited stints in ruck,let alone a full season.
CURNOW a star in the making and good finish to 2017. Carlton will struggle without Doch and Gibbs can he get enough of it to go 90+?
BARLOW a proven ball magnet, having great preseason, but GC are wooden spoon contenders and lots of young mids plus Hanley to compete for points. Has early bye but that's not the thing that's throwing me off with lots of fwd rookies. Has DPP too.
SICILY another who finished well last year in defence,but where will he line up? DPP also handy.
SMITH I really rate as a player,should get more mid time, but lots of others will too McGrath,Parish,Stringer plus regulars Heppell,Goddard,Merrett,Zaha and Colyer. Injury a worry too.
PETRACCA I dont know enough about but I've seen in a few teams.
WALTERS smashes it as a mid who knows where Ross will play him. On my watchlist.
Interested to hear your thoughts guys.
Got BUNDY at F4 some have him F5.
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Will play backline with GUNston returning to his forward post.
Lobb/Bundy for me at this stage
Will upgrade Lobb if he doesn't look being sole ruck
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 06, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
Lobb/Bundy for me at this stage
Will upgrade Lobb if he doesn't look being sole ruck
Same and same plans for Lobb.
Barlow and bundy. Barlow becomes Lobb if/when I get clarity around his role
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 06, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
Lobb/Bundy for me at this stage
Will upgrade Lobb if he doesn't look being sole ruck
Was thinking if Lobb does play first ruck in JLT then Simpson might be a viable R3, sort of can't lose in that scenario.
As for the topic, have played around a bit with Bennell out (which looks likely) and have Dahlhaus, Cyril, Lobb & Bundy as my F1-F4.
Just on Barlow, prior to getting injured his last 7 matches failed to hit triple figures. Bit of a concern if you ask me
Quote from: Ringo on February 06, 2018, 07:35:59 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 06, 2018, 07:32:48 PM
Lobb/Bundy for me at this stage
Will upgrade Lobb if he doesn't look being sole ruck
Same and same plans for Lobb.
+2
Heeney Greene Billings (keen on those 3 premiums, depending how Greene and Heeney recover from their set backs). F4 Christensen for me atm with Rayner F5.
If the cheaper rookies look viable then will look to avoid the pricey rookies and turn Christensen into another premo (Dal/Gray)
Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2018, 09:01:43 PM
Was thinking if Lobb does play first ruck in JLT then Simpson might be a viable R3, sort of can't lose in that scenario.
What do you mean?
Simpson costs too much to just sit on the bench and if Lobb is first ruck what good is it having Simpson as R3?
Lobb and Christensen for me currently.
Currently Smith/Bundy. If Lobb gets up I suspect he will become F3.
Smith and Bundy but may turn out to be Gray/Dahl and Bundy.
im struggling to understand who bundy is? anyone wanna shed some light hahaha
Quote from: kosduras on February 07, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
im struggling to understand who bundy is? anyone wanna shed some light hahaha
Welcome to the forum. Bundy is the nickname for Allan Christensen from Brisbane Lions.
Mitch Robbo and Christo
Quote from: Ringo on February 07, 2018, 11:36:24 AM
Quote from: kosduras on February 07, 2018, 11:24:38 AM
im struggling to understand who bundy is? anyone wanna shed some light hahaha
Welcome to the forum. Bundy is the nickname for Allan Christensen from Brisbane Lions.
cheers ringo!
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 06, 2018, 11:21:28 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2018, 09:01:43 PM
Was thinking if Lobb does play first ruck in JLT then Simpson might be a viable R3, sort of can't lose in that scenario.
What do you mean?
Simpson costs too much to just sit on the bench and if Lobb is first ruck what good is it having Simpson as R3?
Thought he was cheaper actually, just checked and he's 290k, pretty expensive for a guy who played 2 games. Suppose Darcy Cameron is the man for R3.
But back on topic, for me I'm not taking any forward over 500k, this is the year to stack the other lines, Here's my analysis of all the candidates.
Menegola - Trap, unproven over the long haul. Gaz back will hurt.
Heeney - No preseason is a worry, it's an age old rule in SC to avoid these players and I'm not going to start now.
Billings - Really tempting, fine end to the year but still only breaking out. Won't go up too much in any case.
Franklin - KP prospect, will come down as Buddy does every year.
JJK - See Franklin
Gray - Scores like a KPP prospect, could spend more time in the middle with Rocky in the team but a wait and see.
Wingard - Has the Houli hot & cold pattern. One year 90+, the next 80, sticking to the trend as he's due for a downer.
Greene - Burnman with his hot head, 100% certain to be suspended.
Plenty of value to be had with some of the midpricers
C.Rioli - Lock for me, he's a proven 90+ scorer and should be hungry after a tumultuous year with personal issues.
Lobb - First ruck duties and he's in the Nankervis category. Played there in the finals so probably first in line.
Boak - Technically not a mid pricer but is the cheapest he's ever been. Can easily hit 90 and potentially 100. Finished the year strong in 2017.
Christensen - probably a lock for most teams given his price.
Deledio - Has had a decent preseason, has struggled at GWS but is cheap as chips.
Bennell - Worth at shot at 250k, 50/50 to play round 1.
Petracca - Really tempting but I will bring him in as a correction trade only. 4 tons in 2017 isn't sufficient evidence.
Greene and Bundy for me at the moment.
Lobb will come in if he is the solo for round one. Should average 90 and at 390k he is worth the risk.
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
Quote from: frenzy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
Yeah my logic is to load up on the mid-pricers like Dids and Cyril, both proven 90+ scorers who should quickly get back to good form, and wait for the top candidates to emerge. Heeney, for example, could be a great pick up after a couple of rounds.
The best part about this is if you pick your mid pricers right and get guys in that 90 range, you aren't even losing that many points to premiums.
Quote from: Southstorm on February 07, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
Yeah my logic is to load up on the mid-pricers like Dids and Cyril, both proven 90+ scorers who should quickly get back to good form, and wait for the top candidates to emerge. Heeney, for example, could be a great pick up after a couple of rounds.
The best part about this is if you pick your mid pricers right and get guys in that 90 range, you aren't even losing that many points to premiums.
just a gut feel atm, but i feel the expensive rookies in the MIDS are most likely to line up round 1 at this stage. Some people say the DEF rookies are'nt much this year, so I went stronger down back and only need the two rooks on the bench. Pretty much set and forget back six. Think also, there's more value to be had up FWD, so here I'll grab some cheapies and back them in to make cash. Obviously I'm waiting for teams round one, just like everybody else.
Quote from: Southstorm on February 07, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
Yeah my logic is to load up on the mid-pricers like Dids and Cyril, both proven 90+ scorers who should quickly get back to good form, and wait for the top candidates to emerge. Heeney, for example, could be a great pick up after a couple of rounds.
The best part about this is if you pick your mid pricers right and get guys in that 90 range, you aren't even losing that many points to premiums.
With Mid price selection you need them to have several things to make it work
1 - They make enough cash to cover the loss of cash from 1 less rookie. OR the points are enough to offset the loss of cash Generation.
2 - They Become premium and can be a Final position on field or Bench cover.
3 - They don't miss games. This is huge as for every missed game you have to field a rookie vs opponent premium.
This is why most Mid pricers don't work, people only look at points, not what thye are losing out on or how it will impact longer term.
Quote from: LordSneeze on February 08, 2018, 11:11:01 AM
Quote from: Southstorm on February 07, 2018, 08:04:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
Yeah my logic is to load up on the mid-pricers like Dids and Cyril, both proven 90+ scorers who should quickly get back to good form, and wait for the top candidates to emerge. Heeney, for example, could be a great pick up after a couple of rounds.
The best part about this is if you pick your mid pricers right and get guys in that 90 range, you aren't even losing that many points to premiums.
With Mid price selection you need them to have several things to make it work
1 - They make enough cash to cover the loss of cash from 1 less rookie. OR the points are enough to offset the loss of cash Generation.
2 - They Become premium and can be a Final position on field or Bench cover.
3 - They don't miss games. This is huge as for every missed game you have to field a rookie vs opponent premium.
This is why most Mid pricers don't work, people only look at points, not what thye are losing out on or how it will impact longer term.
Agree with this^, GnR's is what everybody should be striving for, but in reality the quality and quantity of the rooks is what will determine whether you need mid pricers/ stepping stones to make cash. It's no good having rank rooks that don't make cash, you'll go nowhere fast. Most teams are looking at starting 6-7 rooks onfield, so what happens when six or seven are'nt named or are garbage?.
I don't even bother with midpricers unless I believe they can become keepers. Learnt that very early on because you always get stuck with them longer than you plan (sometimes all year)
When rookies start to fatten and injuries start to strike your priority isn't going to be to trade the mid pricer that's 'going ok'
Before you know it, it's round 18, you've got 2 trades left and some spud averaging 80 at F6
Quote from: quinny88 on February 08, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
I don't even bother with midpricers unless I believe they can become keepers. Learnt that very early on because you always get stuck with them longer than you plan (sometimes all year)
When rookies start to fatten and injuries start to strike your priority isn't going to be to trade the mid pricer that's 'going ok'
Before you know it, it's round 18, you've got 2 trades left and some spud averaging 80 at F6
There have been a few over the years that have done well, Marchbank went ok, Higgins a few years back, WHE last year. Sometimes there aren't decent rookies and this year will be one of those years (in defence).
Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 08, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
I don't even bother with midpricers unless I believe they can become keepers. Learnt that very early on because you always get stuck with them longer than you plan (sometimes all year)
When rookies start to fatten and injuries start to strike your priority isn't going to be to trade the mid pricer that's 'going ok'
Before you know it, it's round 18, you've got 2 trades left and some spud averaging 80 at F6
There have been a few over the years that have done well, Marchbank went ok, Higgins a few years back, WHE last year. Sometimes there aren't decent rookies and this year will be one of those years (in defence).
Wells 2 (or was it 3?) years ago. Steele, Witts, Nank and Oliver last year to add to that list.
Quote from: SilverLion on February 08, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 08, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
I don't even bother with midpricers unless I believe they can become keepers. Learnt that very early on because you always get stuck with them longer than you plan (sometimes all year)
When rookies start to fatten and injuries start to strike your priority isn't going to be to trade the mid pricer that's 'going ok'
Before you know it, it's round 18, you've got 2 trades left and some spud averaging 80 at F6
There have been a few over the years that have done well, Marchbank went ok, Higgins a few years back, WHE last year. Sometimes there aren't decent rookies and this year will be one of those years (in defence).
Wells 2 (or was it 3?) years ago. Steele, Witts, Nank and Oliver last year to add to that list.
Yep, there's some more names, reckon there will be some gems in the forward basket this year.
Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2018, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 08, 2018, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: Bully on February 08, 2018, 08:18:11 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 08, 2018, 05:15:42 PM
I don't even bother with midpricers unless I believe they can become keepers. Learnt that very early on because you always get stuck with them longer than you plan (sometimes all year)
When rookies start to fatten and injuries start to strike your priority isn't going to be to trade the mid pricer that's 'going ok'
Before you know it, it's round 18, you've got 2 trades left and some spud averaging 80 at F6
There have been a few over the years that have done well, Marchbank went ok, Higgins a few years back, WHE last year. Sometimes there aren't decent rookies and this year will be one of those years (in defence).
Wells 2 (or was it 3?) years ago. Steele, Witts, Nank and Oliver last year to add to that list.
Yep, there's some more names, reckon there will be some gems in the forward basket this year.
Yes like I said, only if I think they can become keepers. I don't bother if I'm only using them as a cash cow.
And I consider mid priced to be anywhere from 250k-450k or there abouts. Anything under (WHE last year) I just consider as an expensive rookie and anything over is a fallen prem or just an average SC scorer
last season five rookies in total out 77 drafted made $200k or more for the season. And two (Witherden & Darcy) didn't start playing til rnd 14.
S P-S
Berry
Stewart
Witherden
Darcy.... and that is all folks.
Quote from: frenzy on February 08, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
last season five rookies in total out 77 drafted made $200k or more for the season. And two (Witherden & Darcy) didn't start playing til rnd 14.
S P-S
Berry
Stewart
Witherden
Darcy.... and that is all folks.
Newman?
Quote from: SilverLion on February 09, 2018, 09:18:34 AM
Quote from: frenzy on February 08, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
last season five rookies in total out 77 drafted made $200k or more for the season. And two (Witherden & Darcy) didn't start playing til rnd 14.
S P-S
Berry
Stewart
Witherden
Darcy.... and that is all folks.
Newman?
He wasn't drafted last year
Quote from: Menzel Washington on February 09, 2018, 09:57:15 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on February 09, 2018, 09:18:34 AM
Quote from: frenzy on February 08, 2018, 10:56:52 PM
last season five rookies in total out 77 drafted made $200k or more for the season. And two (Witherden & Darcy) didn't start playing til rnd 14.
S P-S
Berry
Stewart
Witherden
Darcy.... and that is all folks.
Newman?
He wasn't drafted last year
I suppose, bit technical though, he was 123k.
The more i look at it the more im liking F3/F4 to be cheap for me and sit and wait to see who the top 6 forwards are this year cause its gonna be a tough one
Anyone have any info on Brandon AhChee? Made the move to west coast, spots up for grabs in the eagles midfield this year. Don’t know a lot about him myself, just seems to be plenty of opportunity there....
Read back a bit he was training well , he should slot into the team you would think don't think he is going to be an instant mid gun but when we all realize that there is not enough rookies to fill our spots we will all be scrambling to get players like him in our teams ;)
Quote from: shaker on February 11, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
Read back a bit he was training well , he should slot into the team you would think don't think he is going to be an instant mid gun but when we all realize that there is not enough rookies to fill our spots we will all be scrambling to get players like him in our teams ;)
With Bundy almost the same price it's hard to fit Ah Chee in as well - there should be enough fwd rookies (Rioli,Venables,Ahern,Garlett,Ryan etc.)
- unless they line up at F3+4 which would be a little thin and risky.
Quote from: ubeaut on February 11, 2018, 11:29:14 AM
Quote from: shaker on February 11, 2018, 10:19:32 AM
Read back a bit he was training well , he should slot into the team you would think don't think he is going to be an instant mid gun but when we all realize that there is not enough rookies to fill our spots we will all be scrambling to get players like him in our teams ;)
With Bundy almost the same price it's hard to fit Ah Chee in as well - there should be enough fwd rookies (Rioli,Venables,Ahern,Garlett,Ryan etc.)
- unless they line up at F3+4 which would be a little thin and risky.
Ahern did not take part in intra club so he is a wait and see and to think all of Rioli ,Venables and Ryan will all line up for the Eagles R1 might be a tad optimistic and all the talk of few back rookies I can see both Christensen and AhChee being used at F4 and 5 in the Fwds
D Smith and Petracca.
Music to my ears....!!
Part of the report from Doggies practice match this morning.
“Toby McLean looks set for midfield time in 2018, with the former forward impressing with his energy around the contest and ball use when on the spread.“ - Courtesy of AFL App.
Libba apprently looking back to his best also - but meh, I dislike him too much to put him in my side!
Quote from: Woppa15 on February 24, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
Libba apprently looking back to his best also - but meh, I dislike him too much to put him in my side!
Would also be a risk of missing round 1 if he is flown up to SA after his ashes hundred i would've thought
Quote from: Woppa15 on February 24, 2018, 04:01:57 PM
Music to my ears....!!
Part of the report from Doggies practice match this morning.
“Toby McLean looks set for midfield time in 2018, with the former forward impressing with his energy around the contest and ball use when on the spread.“ - Courtesy of AFL App.
Libba apprently looking back to his best also - but meh, I dislike him too much to put him in my side!
Love it. Locked. Surprised how quickly my team is solidifying with a month to go!
McLean & Ah-Chee are currently filling my F3/F4
Quote from: frenzy on February 07, 2018, 03:42:26 PM
Deledio and Cyril at this point of time.
I feel dirty just reading this post... :o
Jarrad Waite and Daniel LLoyd.