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I’ve narrowed it down to 3 of these 4 as my starting Forward Premos. Can’t seem to seperate them. Only standout I can really see is Heeney has had an interrupted preseason, but he did last year and still managed to avg almost 98.....

Heeney/Billings >>>>> McLean>Menegola

Lock in Heeney and Billings as they are the most rock solid chances of being a top 5 forward.

Menegola has shown a fair bit in his games but I don't like the idea paying 550k for someone who has played 30 games.

McLean killed the end of last season but again doesn't really have the run on the boards but he is a sneaky pod and a good chance of going 90+ and at 80k less I would be inclined to go with him.

(only voted for Heeney and Billings though as I can't really split the other two apart from price)

Heeney/Billings > McLean > Menagola

Last year:
- When Menagola, Dangerfield, J.Selwood, Duncan and S.Selwood played together (7 games total), Menagola averaged 90.7.
- When only one of them were missing, Menagola averaged 106.1 from 12 games.
- When it was either Dangerfield/J.Selwood missing, he averaged 119.2 from 5 games.

I reckon with the inclusion of Ablett, it's just to many points to go around and Menagloa will be the one who drops off. The rd14 bye is a killer and pushed him to the least favorite of the lot for me.

Agree with the above comments I also only voted for just Heeney and Billings. I would consider Greene, Gray and Walters over both McLean and Menegola. There is no doubting Greene's scoring its just his discipline but for me not gonna pass on a player based on the likelihood for suspension.

Interesting forward options this year, Dal is also interesting depending on role.

Only voted for Heeney and Billings who I see as top 5/10 forwards. Others may scarpe in but you have others that will probably be top 10 eg Franklin who is always up there but a rollercoaster ride. 
Forwards really a lottery this year.

Menegola probably has his scoring hurt with the addition of Ablett, but with the players to choose from this year, he could still end up in the top 10 forwards.

Probably not one to start with with that price tag, but maybe someone to look at as a POD upgrade target when his price comes down mid season.

Does anyone actually know what the go is with Heeney? Is he still injured?

I concede that Billings/Heeney combo is solid, but now becoming a bit vanilla for mine.   Am weighing up Boak/Lynch (Adel) vs Heeney/Barlow as my 6 premo mids mean I am taking Robbo as my F3. 

The thoughts on the former being on the back of both Port and Crows increasing their midfield attack and, in theory, these guys will get increased numbers. 

I'm not suggesting Swans are lacking the mids to provide the same production the forwards - although recent comments on Hannebury are worrying.  And I won't discuss the Suns mids given the bye headache that, in my mind, overrides the argument. But as PODs and potential I'm on the fence for each option.

Thoughts?

Quote from: djfloorboy on February 06, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
I concede that Billings/Heeney combo is solid, but now becoming a bit vanilla for mine.   Am weighing up Boak/Lynch (Adel) vs Heeney/Barlow as my 6 premo mids mean I am taking Robbo as my F3. 

The thoughts on the former being on the back of both Port and Crows increasing their midfield attack and, in theory, these guys will get increased numbers. 

I'm not suggesting Swans are lacking the mids to provide the same production the forwards - although recent comments on Hannebury are worrying.  And I won't discuss the Suns mids given the bye headache that, in my mind, overrides the argument. But as PODs and potential I'm on the fence for each option.

Thoughts?

I like Boak, don't like Barlow. I think Boak can hit 90 again with potential to hit 100. His form from round 15 last year was solid, only 1 score under 80 which is perfect for a forward.

Thanks for this Bully.

I should have also mentioned that while it's understood Boak has the same disgusting R9 bye as the Suns, it is their mids (IMO) who will struggle to feed their forwards adequate possession. Including some thoughts that Hall may go big in Ablett's absence.

Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2018, 09:10:17 PM

Quote from: djfloorboy on February 06, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
I concede that Billings/Heeney combo is solid, but now becoming a bit vanilla for mine.   Am weighing up Boak/Lynch (Adel) vs Heeney/Barlow as my 6 premo mids mean I am taking Robbo as my F3. 

The thoughts on the former being on the back of both Port and Crows increasing their midfield attack and, in theory, these guys will get increased numbers. 

I'm not suggesting Swans are lacking the mids to provide the same production the forwards - although recent comments on Hannebury are worrying.  And I won't discuss the Suns mids given the bye headache that, in my mind, overrides the argument. But as PODs and potential I'm on the fence for each option.

Thoughts?

I like Boak, don't like Barlow. I think Boak can hit 90 again with potential to hit 100. His form from round 15 last year was solid, only 1 score under 80 which is perfect for a forward.

Why not Barlow? His numbers as a mid are rock solid and you would think with Gaz gone he moves back there

Quote from: quinny88 on February 06, 2018, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2018, 09:10:17 PM

Quote from: djfloorboy on February 06, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
I concede that Billings/Heeney combo is solid, but now becoming a bit vanilla for mine.   Am weighing up Boak/Lynch (Adel) vs Heeney/Barlow as my 6 premo mids mean I am taking Robbo as my F3. 

The thoughts on the former being on the back of both Port and Crows increasing their midfield attack and, in theory, these guys will get increased numbers. 

I'm not suggesting Swans are lacking the mids to provide the same production the forwards - although recent comments on Hannebury are worrying.  And I won't discuss the Suns mids given the bye headache that, in my mind, overrides the argument. But as PODs and potential I'm on the fence for each option.

Thoughts?

I like Boak, don't like Barlow. I think Boak can hit 90 again with potential to hit 100. His form from round 15 last year was solid, only 1 score under 80 which is perfect for a forward.

Why not Barlow? His numbers as a mid are rock solid and you would think with Gaz gone he moves back there

No tons in his last 7 games indicates he's on the decline, Gaz out but guys like Hanley & Wigg to fill the void. Then there's Brodie who plays a similar game to Barlow, I suspect they'll be trying to get games into the young guns.

Quote from: Bully on February 07, 2018, 12:41:16 PM

Quote from: quinny88 on February 06, 2018, 10:10:03 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 06, 2018, 09:10:17 PM

Quote from: djfloorboy on February 06, 2018, 09:04:17 PM
I concede that Billings/Heeney combo is solid, but now becoming a bit vanilla for mine.   Am weighing up Boak/Lynch (Adel) vs Heeney/Barlow as my 6 premo mids mean I am taking Robbo as my F3. 

The thoughts on the former being on the back of both Port and Crows increasing their midfield attack and, in theory, these guys will get increased numbers. 

I'm not suggesting Swans are lacking the mids to provide the same production the forwards - although recent comments on Hannebury are worrying.  And I won't discuss the Suns mids given the bye headache that, in my mind, overrides the argument. But as PODs and potential I'm on the fence for each option.

Thoughts?

I like Boak, don't like Barlow. I think Boak can hit 90 again with potential to hit 100. His form from round 15 last year was solid, only 1 score under 80 which is perfect for a forward.

Why not Barlow? His numbers as a mid are rock solid and you would think with Gaz gone he moves back there

No tons in his last 7 games indicates he's on the decline, Gaz out but guys like Hanley & Wigg to fill the void. Then there's Brodie who plays a similar game to Barlow, I suspect they'll be trying to get games into the young guns.

You could be right but I would have thought they'd want an experienced guy in there too.
He's also having a great pre season and won time trials etc so I'm keeping a keen eye on him

menegola is the biggest trap in years with GAJ now there he will not anywhere near scoring well enough to what he is priced at.

Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Yeah not to many worried about Heeney's preseason on those figures

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Interestingly no McLean on that list, would be interested to know his ownership %.

Quote from: Woppa15 on February 19, 2018, 06:30:07 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Interestingly no McLean on that list, would be interested to know his ownership %.

Only 2%

Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Yeah not to many worried about Heeney's preseason on those figures

Back fully training now, I'm not worried. Exploded out of the blocks last year on the back of 0 pre-season.

Quote from: Huttabito on February 19, 2018, 06:47:37 PM

Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Yeah not to many worried about Heeney's preseason on those figures

Back fully training now, I'm not worried. Exploded out of the blocks last year on the back of 0 pre-season.

Odds on to be the premo FWD this year

Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 06:57:22 PM

Quote from: Huttabito on February 19, 2018, 06:47:37 PM

Quote from: shaker on February 19, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Yeah not to many worried about Heeney's preseason on those figures

Back fully training now, I'm not worried. Exploded out of the blocks last year on the back of 0 pre-season.

Odds on to be the premo FWD this year

He's the only forward I'm actually confident will be in the top 3. I have question marks on everyone else

Quote from: quinny88 on February 19, 2018, 06:37:24 PM

Quote from: Woppa15 on February 19, 2018, 06:30:07 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Interestingly no McLean on that list, would be interested to know his ownership %.

Only 2%

Cheers Quinny!
That surprises me given the way he finished last season.

Quote from: Woppa15 on February 19, 2018, 07:33:55 PM

Quote from: quinny88 on February 19, 2018, 06:37:24 PM

Quote from: Woppa15 on February 19, 2018, 06:30:07 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Interestingly no McLean on that list, would be interested to know his ownership %.

Only 2%

Cheers Quinny!
That surprises me given the way he finished last season.

He's definitely in my AF McLean, not so sure about SC though.

Quote from: Bully on February 19, 2018, 05:37:17 PM
Some interesting selections in the forward line this year, shocked to see who is at the top based on ownership.

40% - Heeney
22% - Petracca
20% - Stringer
18% - Christensen
16% - Gray
15% - Dahlhaus
14% - Billings
13% - Greene
11% - Franklin
10% - Walters
10% - C.Rioli
9% - Menegola
9% - D.Smith
8% - Deledio
8% - Sicily

Most shocked about Stringer & Petracca, I realise they're cheap but they will be hard to shift if they bomb in the first few rounds. A lot with Gray too so problems in round 10 looming. Reckon this line will be a weakness for may.

Just goes to show what a lottery forwards will be this year.  Think a lot of us have gone down the cheaper forward line route till we see which forwards will rise to the top. All my forwards with exception of Bundy are 10% or lower. Surprised that Bundys ownership not higher as well given his price, He seems to be in nearly every SC team posted on FF.

This is why I'm going a little light in the forwards

Heeney, Billings and Dahl are the only 3 I have full confidence in, so those 3 with Christo at F4 will do the trick for me

Then I can have time to see who else is emerging

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 19, 2018, 10:40:02 PM
This is why I'm going a little light in the forwards

Heeney, Billings and Dahl are the only 3 I have full confidence in, so those 3 with Christo at F4 will do the trick for me

Then I can have time to see who else is emerging

Going even lighter with Walters, McLean Petracca and Bundy at F4

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 19, 2018, 10:40:02 PM
This is why I'm going a little light in the forwards

Heeney, Billings and Dahl are the only 3 I have full confidence in, so those 3 with Christo at F4 will do the trick for me

Then I can have time to see who else is emerging

How confident are you on Dahl RD? Bit worried he'll spend time forward again this year..

Heeney & Bundy are the only 2  I have from that list. Considering Stringer, but FWD line is where I am taking all my risk. Other premiums are all my top picks.

Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Will drop below 450k in all likelihood, Buddy always finds himself in my team at some stage but never at the beginning.

Quote from: Bully on February 20, 2018, 12:32:06 PM

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Will drop below 450k in all likelihood, Buddy always finds himself in my team at some stage but never at the beginning.

Swans have the dreaded Rd 14 bye so only one should be picked given the mids that have the same bye. Franklin will give you a roller coaster with huge deviations. 42 t0 183 with an average of 96 to confirm.

Anyone looked at the numbers of McLean and Dahl when Stringer is out of the lineup?

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 20, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Anyone looked at the numbers of McLean and Dahl when Stringer is out of the lineup?

Dahl
With Stringer      93.6
Without Stringer 83

McLean
With Stringer     84.2
Without Stringer 89.2

Don't think you can read much into these as Stringer missed 4 of the last 6 and Dahl had already started dropping and McLean had already started improving by then

Quote from: Gigantor on February 20, 2018, 12:59:33 PM

Quote from: jvalles69 on February 20, 2018, 12:47:14 PM
Anyone looked at the numbers of McLean and Dahl when Stringer is out of the lineup?

Dahl
With Stringer      93.6
Without Stringer 83

McLean
With Stringer     84.2
Without Stringer 89.2

Don't think you can read much into these as Stringer missed 4 of the last 6 and Dahl had already started dropping and McLean had already started improving by then

Yeah cool, thanks for that...knew it would be a small sample size.

Quote from: Bully on February 20, 2018, 12:32:06 PM

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Will drop below 450k in all likelihood, Buddy always finds himself in my team at some stage but never at the beginning.

possibly true but who do you have who is better and wont dip in price?

he could equally have a monster game early and jump in price. Round 7 v north id back him in to go huge in that game.

So unless your punting on bringing him in after round 6 after he plays GWS Dogs Crows Cats, i cant see a better pick up.

Billings, Greene, Lobb, Christensen are my 4.
Looks like there's going to be some variety in the fwds which is good.

Quote from: enzedder on February 20, 2018, 05:44:24 PM
Billings, Greene, Lobb, Christensen are my 4.
Looks like there's going to be some variety in the fwds which is good.

Yeah lots of variety,
I only have Bundy from those and I currently have 3 that are in less than 2% of sides. (Not including Rookies)

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 05:38:27 PM

Quote from: Bully on February 20, 2018, 12:32:06 PM

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Will drop below 450k in all likelihood, Buddy always finds himself in my team at some stage but never at the beginning.

possibly true but who do you have who is better and wont dip in price?

he could equally have a monster game early and jump in price. Round 7 v north id back him in to go huge in that game.

So unless your punting on bringing him in after round 6 after he plays GWS Dogs Crows Cats, i cant see a better pick up.

Billings dominated after round 6, 10 tons and a handful of games which yielded 30 touches. Underpriced.

Walters averaged 111 playing in the midfield, then got injured. has been training with the mids, coach has stated he will be playing there this year.

Dahlhaus had a down year but is apparently looking sharp in the preseason, pretty cheap for what he can produce.

I have two spots left and one will be for Buddy & the other probably for a breakout mid.

Heeney, Billings, Greene and Walters (Too a lesser extent Dahl) are the ones I am considering. Heeney/Billings are my two clear favourites and that leaves Greene who has had an interupted preseason and Walters who has the same bye as both Heeney/Billings and other guns across my team.

Heenet, Billings and then Greene with Bundy is my current forward line.

Going speculative with Billings, D. Smith and Petracca from F1 to F3. Will look to trade Heeney in later.

I have Heeney Billings and D Smith atm

Quote from: Fid on February 21, 2018, 09:23:00 PM
I have Heeney Billings and D Smith atm

Same for me. Just have a feeling Smith is in for a good year

I like Walters a lot this year, the only problem is how much time exactly he'll play in the midfeld. He has a tendency to throw up some absolute stinkers when playing deep forward.

With Fyfe, Neale, Mundy, Blakely, Hill(s), etc all running through there, plus some of the rookies, not sure what the mid/forward split will be.

The addition of Brandon Matera would definitely help though...

Quote from: jfitty on February 22, 2018, 09:54:00 AM
I like Walters a lot this year, the only problem is how much time exactly he'll play in the midfeld. He has a tendency to throw up some absolute stinkers when playing deep forward.

With Fyfe, Neale, Mundy, Blakely, Hill(s), etc all running through there, plus some of the rookies, not sure what the mid/forward split will be.

The addition of Brandon Matera would definitely help though...

I'm thinking if Bennell gets back, Blakely plays more half back as has been touted, Matera forward and Fyfe as well there's plenty of opportunity for mid minutes for a Walters.

I'm going with 2 premos atm. So don't trust fwds this year. Depending on rookies selected for R1 of course. Most that are 500 plus now should be cheaper at some point.

Quote from: Bully on February 20, 2018, 12:32:06 PM

Quote from: Holz on February 20, 2018, 10:44:22 AM
Swan combo for me with Heeney Buddy

Buddy has gone

91 107 88 107 111 116 90 100 87 95 98

and played 22 games the last 2 years.

I think you can pretty much guess 90-100 average which is brilliant considering the forwards we have this year. Even that 87 a few years back he was playing sore in the last few games so was traveling at 90+

regardless basically 90 or better in the last 11 seasons.

Will drop below 450k in all likelihood, Buddy always finds himself in my team at some stage but never at the beginning.

Yeh i'll wait for Buddy too

Dahl seems like an obvious pick but I have been struggling to fit him in.

Contract year.  Wasn't even in the top 10 B&F and still managed 90.  25 years old.  Point to prove.

Quote from: batt on February 25, 2018, 12:54:16 PM
Dahl seems like an obvious pick but I have been struggling to fit him in.

Contract year.  Wasn't even in the top 10 B&F and still managed 90.  25 years old.  Point to prove.

It all depends whether they start to give him midfield time again. When he plays exclusive forward, he can put up average numbers..

Similar scenario to R Gray.

Quote from: batt on February 25, 2018, 12:54:16 PM
Dahl seems like an obvious pick but I have been struggling to fit him in.

Contract year.  Wasn't even in the top 10 B&F and still managed 90.  25 years old.  Point to prove.

The 90 average doesn't sound so bad but it's the fact that he only averaged 83 after the bye and barely went near the midfield.
If he goes back to gettin more mid time I'm confident he'll return to 95+

Quote from: ubeaut on February 22, 2018, 11:13:43 AM

Quote from: jfitty on February 22, 2018, 09:54:00 AM
I like Walters a lot this year, the only problem is how much time exactly he'll play in the midfeld. He has a tendency to throw up some absolute stinkers when playing deep forward.

With Fyfe, Neale, Mundy, Blakely, Hill(s), etc all running through there, plus some of the rookies, not sure what the mid/forward split will be.

The addition of Brandon Matera would definitely help though...

I'm thinking if Bennell gets back, Blakely plays more half back as has been touted, Matera forward and Fyfe as well there's plenty of opportunity for mid minutes for a Walters.

Agree with above - it is highly unlikely (from what I have heard) that bennell will get up before R3. Matera as small forward, fyfe n mundy big at the ball, Neale in/under/outside and Walters one of the outside link ups... Should score well!
Great setup IMO
But then RL is the coach so....