Starting a new thread for the next year,
I am happy to announce that GlennJamin is now co-coach of the Magic with Torp. (4 coaches still to vote though)
Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs give Nic Naitanui and Mitch Wallis
Hebden Bridge Hedgehogs receive Daniel Rich and Leigh Montagna
Grope Lane give: David Zaharakis + Mark Hutchings
Hebden Bridge give: David Swallow + Scott Selwood
Hedgies give: Connor Blakely + Sam Menegola
Steins give: Kieran Jack + Rhys Stanley + Kristian Jaksch
3 trades that will haunt this team until it is rebuilt. Had no say on two of them either.
Onto bigger and brighter things I guess. :)
Jukes gonna be co coaching with me next year not sure if needs to be voted on but yeah
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2017, 02:03:49 PM
Jukes gonna be co coaching with me next year not sure if needs to be voted on but yeah
As per our rules Co_coaches have to be voted in. Will send out in the next day or two.
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http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110393.0.html
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Quote from: Ringo on September 12, 2017, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2017, 02:03:49 PM
Jukes gonna be co coaching with me next year not sure if needs to be voted on but yeah
As per our rules Co_coaches have to be voted in. Will send out in the next day or two.
l didn't realise co-coaches needed to be voted in ???
Quote from: nostradamus on October 11, 2017, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: Ringo on September 12, 2017, 02:28:56 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on September 12, 2017, 02:03:49 PM
Jukes gonna be co coaching with me next year not sure if needs to be voted on but yeah
As per our rules Co_coaches have to be voted in. Will send out in the next day or two.
l didn't realise co-coaches needed to be voted in ???
Just to clarify a co coach has same standing as a stand alone coach and as such needs to be voted as per rules. Usually a formality though.
Assistant Coaches however are part of the coaching team and not needed to be voted on.
What about a rule change for next year that we can trade future picks?
Would have to be limits/restrictions like the AFL, but would add an extra dimension to the trade table?
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 31, 2017, 12:50:54 PM
What about a rule change for next year that we can trade future picks?
Would have to be limits/restrictions like the AFL, but would add an extra dimension to the trade table?
Also whilst at this, another that we voted on, allowing UF's mis seasons positional changes?
Also adds another factor during the season.
Quote from: nas on October 31, 2017, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 31, 2017, 12:50:54 PM
What about a rule change for next year that we can trade future picks?
Would have to be limits/restrictions like the AFL, but would add an extra dimension to the trade table?
Also whilst at this, another that we voted on, allowing UF's mis seasons positional changes?
Also adds another factor during the season.
Yeah no thanks
Positions should stay as is for the whole season
Don't like the trading of future draft picks either,extra work for admin to worry about
Quote from: LF on October 31, 2017, 02:06:16 PM
Quote from: nas on October 31, 2017, 01:03:10 PM
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 31, 2017, 12:50:54 PM
What about a rule change for next year that we can trade future picks?
Would have to be limits/restrictions like the AFL, but would add an extra dimension to the trade table?
Also whilst at this, another that we voted on, allowing UF's mis seasons positional changes?
Also adds another factor during the season.
Yeah no thanks
Positions should stay as is for the whole season
Don't like the trading of future draft picks either,extra work for admin to worry about
spoil sports - you know that just because a rule (like future picks) comes in, doesn't mean you have to use it!!
Quote from: SydneyRox on October 31, 2017, 04:30:21 PM
spoil sports - you know that just because a rule (like future picks) comes in, doesn't mean you have to use it!!
Calling people spoil sports probably isn’t the most effective method of getting them on side. :P
Just going through team list thread now to modify player movements, NAT and Rookie draft threads should be fine. Over the next few days though, if any coaches can check that with their own team list and possibly point out any mistakes, that'd be super :)
Are people happy with the current number of movements, or would a slight increase be better? (e.g. to 20)
Alternatively, do people want no restrictions on number of movements in the first (or both) trade period?
I know a few coaches have either used all movements already, or gotten bloody close, and we still have the 2nd trade period to come. Obviously this would have no impact on TP2 if people would like it changed though, would be for next season.
I might have missed the whole reasoning, but why is the National draft for BXV starting so late on the 9th Dec?
Quote from: Rids on November 25, 2017, 04:34:28 PM
I might have missed the whole reasoning, but why is the National draft for BXV starting so late on the 9th Dec?
I'll be away until the 6th with no internet, and Ringo decided to wait until I'm back to start the draft to make sure that everything goes smoothly from an admin perspective. Will look to start the draft on the 8th though, after delistings are processed.
We also don't think time should be an issue, finished both drafts within 3 days last year iirc
That is frustrating. I will have next to no access then. Luckily Grope Lane only has 3 picks in the national draft so we won't hold the draft up too much but there is every chance we will be using the 24 hours each time.
If the rookie draft starts too close to Christmas then that will cause further issues with me. I will be on holidays for approx 10 days with no internet acces.
Quote from: Rids on November 25, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
That is frustrating. I will have next to no access then. Luckily Grope Lane only has 3 picks in the national draft so we won't hold the draft up too much but there is every chance we will be using the 24 hours each time.
If the rookie draft starts too close to Christmas then that will cause further issues with me. I will be on holidays for approx 10 days with no internet acces.
I'm just checking with Ringo, may be able to start on the 5th or 6th (and I'd pick when I get back). We were going to start after the AFL PSD and Rookie drafts regardless, so would only be delayed by ~6 days if that is the case.
When exactly will you be away?
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2017, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 25, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
That is frustrating. I will have next to no access then. Luckily Grope Lane only has 3 picks in the national draft so we won't hold the draft up too much but there is every chance we will be using the 24 hours each time.
If the rookie draft starts too close to Christmas then that will cause further issues with me. I will be on holidays for approx 10 days with no internet acces.
I'm just checking with Ringo, may be able to start on the 5th or 6th (and I'd pick when I get back). We were going to start after the AFL PSD and Rookie drafts regardless, so would only be delayed by ~6 days if that is the case.
When exactly will you be away?
I can't confirm the exact days as it will be Christmas shut down for my new client. There will be next to no internet access in the new role through the day. Nostra is also working multiple jobs currently with no home internet hence why I have been carrying the workload. It is what it is I spose.
Quote from: Rids on November 25, 2017, 05:04:28 PM
Quote from: GoLions on November 25, 2017, 05:01:36 PM
Quote from: Rids on November 25, 2017, 04:59:44 PM
That is frustrating. I will have next to no access then. Luckily Grope Lane only has 3 picks in the national draft so we won't hold the draft up too much but there is every chance we will be using the 24 hours each time.
If the rookie draft starts too close to Christmas then that will cause further issues with me. I will be on holidays for approx 10 days with no internet acces.
I'm just checking with Ringo, may be able to start on the 5th or 6th (and I'd pick when I get back). We were going to start after the AFL PSD and Rookie drafts regardless, so would only be delayed by ~6 days if that is the case.
When exactly will you be away?
I can't confirm the exact days as it will be Christmas shut down for my new client. There will be next to no internet access in the new role through the day. Nostra is also working multiple jobs currently with no home internet hence why I have been carrying the workload. It is what it is I spose.
Ah ok. Well, it looks like we may be doing the 5th now, if that helps at all :P
It can't be helped.
Anything to move the deadline further away from Christmas will be a great idea imo. The last thing I want to be doing is trying to find internet cafes to log on to fanfooty :)
Ringo and I have decided to change the final date for delistings to Friday December 1st. Some leniency may be given, as it is slightly earlier than originally stated.
The NAT draft will now begin on Tuesday December 5th, once everything is hopefully all sorted out by Ringo (delistings, list spots, etc).
Will send everyone a PM as well.
As the season nears and I have draft draw prepared so just to discuss a couple of rule changes to counter draw.
Existing Rule for Round Starting on Thursday - (5 this year)
When we have Thursday Night game - Captain and VC locked and players in game locked at Bounce Thursday with balance of team locked at Bounce Friday Night game.
Although not a rule think we applied this for teams with Monday night Games (Only Rd 2 applies)
C and VC Locked and Players in teams to Sunday locked at Bounce of Friday night game.
Rd 5 is the Round we have to make a decision on with games on Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Tuesday and Wednesday.
Options as I see them
1. Have a full rolling lockout for the Round with C and VC locked at Bounce of Friday Game.
2. Captains and VC's and players up to Sunday locked at Bounce of Friday night game with Melbourne, Richmond, Collingwood and Essendon players locked on the morning following announcements of teams for their matches. Not sure when that will be but possibly Monday. (Maybe 2 lockouts if teams not announced on same day)
So discussion welcome.
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Have them recorded but not priority for season start. just went through the list to see those which effect us frrom or prior to Rd 1.
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Have them recorded but not priority for season start. just went through the list to see those which effect us frrom or prior to Rd 1.
Na priority picks is something that needs to be added now otherwise we will vote when we know where we sit on the ladder ect
Quote from: iZander on January 29, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Have them recorded but not priority for season start. just went through the list to see those which effect us frrom or prior to Rd 1.
Na priority picks is something that needs to be added now otherwise we will vote when we know where we sit on the ladder ect
Yep, these are rules that need to be voted on before people know what picks and stuff they're expecting to get
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on January 29, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Have them recorded but not priority for season start. just went through the list to see those which effect us frrom or prior to Rd 1.
Na priority picks is something that needs to be added now otherwise we will vote when we know where we sit on the ladder ect
Yep, these are rules that need to be voted on before people know what picks and stuff they're expecting to get
Fair comments then guys so will vote on all 4 that I have in the Rule changes thread.
Your thoughts on the Anzac day Round would be appreciated though.
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:40:39 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:37:59 PM
Quote from: iZander on January 29, 2018, 06:32:07 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:26:34 PM
Quote from: GoLions on January 29, 2018, 06:24:24 PM
Quote from: Ringo on January 29, 2018, 06:17:31 PM
Will send out votes for any rules that involve changes for this season in the next week or two.
The 2 I have currently listed are trades committee do we continue or alternative and do we follow UF with change of position or lock at start of season.
Feel free to discuss these as well.
Priority picks, and trading future picks were others that were brought up iirc
Would also bring up trade movements as well I guess. Keep the same, make unlimited, increase to something like 20 (with other restrictions currently in place remaining the same), or decreasing the number (which I doubt anyone would go for :P).
Have them recorded but not priority for season start. just went through the list to see those which effect us frrom or prior to Rd 1.
Na priority picks is something that needs to be added now otherwise we will vote when we know where we sit on the ladder ect
Yep, these are rules that need to be voted on before people know what picks and stuff they're expecting to get
Fair comments then guys so will vote on all 4 that I have in the Rule changes thread.
Your thoughts on the Anzac day Round would be appreciated though.
I think option 2 is more consistent with the rest of the season
WXVW Vacant Coaching Position!
We only need one more coach! The sooner someone signs up the better the comp will be! The season is very short and will be done by the time AFL kicks off so it's fun!
The team list is as follows:1. Emma King (R)
2. Sabrina Frederick-Traub (F/R)
3. Ebony Marinoff (M)
4. Bianca Jakobsson (F)
5. Nicole Hildebrand (B)
6. Caitlyn Edwards (B)
7. Tiah Haynes (M)
8. Bree White (M/F)
9. Hannah Scott (M)
10. Melissa Caulfield (F/M)
11. Jasmine Garner (F)
12. Penny Cula-Reid (B)13. Britt Tully (M)
14. Sarah Last (B)
15. Demi Okley (M/F)16. Katherine Smith (M)
17. Tayla Bresland (B)
18. Jess Gardner (F/B)19. Katie Loynes (M)
20. Selina Goodman (M)21. Ruby Schleicher (R)
22. Melissa Kuys (M)
23. Nat Exon (M)
24. Kendra Heil (M/F)25. Caitlin Collins (B)26. Sophie Casey (F)
27. Rebecca Neaves (M)National Picks:3, 11, 19, 27, 35, 43, 51, 59, 7th rounder*, 8th rounder*
PM Levi ASAP if interested!
AFL UTG open for participants ahead of Season 3
http://forum.fanfooty.com.au/index.php/topic,110802.msg1913252.html#msg1913252
Join BXV coaches GoLions, Koop, Hawka and Nige who are all involved with the competition.
Looking to fill 2 or 3 placements before the commencement of the JLT Series so that a pre-season competition can be run.
Any compo or anything for Naismith tearing his ACL? That gives me 0 playing ruckman, unless Hayes or Coleman somehow get a gig... Lost Tippett + Naismith in a span of a couple of months.
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 07, 2018, 04:50:21 PM
Any compo or anything for Naismith tearing his ACL? That gives me 0 playing ruckman, unless Hayes or Coleman somehow get a gig... Lost Tippett + Naismith in a span of a couple of months.
Isn't not having to play Naismith compo in itself?
Quote from: GoLions on March 09, 2018, 02:06:50 PM
Quote from: Pkbaldy on March 07, 2018, 04:50:21 PM
Any compo or anything for Naismith tearing his ACL? That gives me 0 playing ruckman, unless Hayes or Coleman somehow get a gig... Lost Tippett + Naismith in a span of a couple of months.
Isn't not having to play Naismith compo in itself?
Depends who avgs more, Jy Simpkin /2 or Naismith.
deciding who to field out of Hall, WHE, Phillips, Henderson does my head in can pick 2
Just a small fyi to everyone, had a heap of shower go on in my personal life over the last couple weeks, which, combined with me actually working full time now, is why I've been fairly inactive since basically the end of round 1. Hopefully all is good now, and I'll be able to contribute a bit more to fixture write-ups and all that which I know everyone absolutely LOVES. Obviously.
Did not put this in the rules sections as I think it requires more discussion.
Was thinking not for this year but going forward the winner of the plate competition also gets draft pick no 1 as a reward and to keep interest in the lower comp. Can see pros and cons both ways but just an idea to further reward the tem that wins the lower tier.
Alternately do we use the lower tier comp to determine finishing positions as well.
just a few thoughts and all welcome to contribute on how we can make this competition a little better. maybe better Admin.
Quote from: Ringo on July 25, 2018, 09:40:43 PM
Did not put this in the rules sections as I think it requires more discussion.
Was thinking not for this year but going forward the winner of the plate competition also gets draft pick no 1 as a reward and to keep interest in the lower comp. Can see pros and cons both ways but just an idea to further reward the tem that wins the lower tier.
Alternately do we use the lower tier comp to determine finishing positions as well.
just a few thoughts and all welcome to contribute on how we can make this competition a little better. maybe better Admin.
Wouldn't do pick 1, think its an unfair advantage to the sides that just missed finals vs. the sides that finish bottom four.
Possibly an end of first round bonus pick? (Pick 19)
And I think our admins are doing a great job ;)
Please no :P
I'd prefer to leave it as is.
Agree with the sentiments of others, you can be pretty lucky/unlucky over a period of, at most, 4 weeks. I think the #1 pick should be reserved for the team that has struggled most over the entire season, rather than put a strong month together to take out the minor finals.
Any thoughts on Silver Lions suggestion that winner gets their 2nd round pick at conclusion of Rd 1 and after any priority picks.
Rationale is trying to keep interest till the end for lower teams. Happy to be completely over ruled though.
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
Then dont do it, surly its only there to keep interest for those teams who didnt make finals, if those guys arent finding it interesting then why bother
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
It is not actually a bonus pick just moving their 2nd rd pick up the order dependent on who wins,
Quote from: iZander on July 26, 2018, 06:01:31 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
Then dont do it, surly its only there to keep interest for those teams who didnt make finals, if those guys arent finding it interesting then why bother
Yeah that's true. But I'm too competitive to do that ;D
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
;)
Quote from: Ringo on July 26, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
It is not actually a bonus pick just moving their 2nd rd pick up the order dependent on who wins,
So whoever finishes last can't win anything then.
There does not need to be any kind of reward for an extremely pointless bottom 8 finals comp.
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
See how the Steins have helped you? :P :-X
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 26, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
It is not actually a bonus pick just moving their 2nd rd pick up the order dependent on who wins,
So whoever finishes last can't win anything then.
Depending on previous performances still get priority picks. So Magic and Breakers will have a priority pick after First Rd picks. No team qualifies for earlier picks.
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
See how the Steins have helped you? :P :-X
Sticks and steins may break my bones, but you will never win the premiership
At last we have some banter. haha
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
See how the Steins have helped you? :P :-X
Sticks and steins may break my bones, but you will never win the premiership
1 in 8 chance vs 0!
Quote from: Ringo on July 26, 2018, 06:13:53 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:06:46 PM
Quote from: Ringo on July 26, 2018, 06:03:59 PM
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 05:27:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
It is not actually a bonus pick just moving their 2nd rd pick up the order dependent on who wins,
So whoever finishes last can't win anything then.
Depending on previous performances still get priority picks. So Magic and Breakers will have a priority pick after First Rd picks. No team qualifies for earlier picks.
...which they would get regardless
Let's say we enforced this rule. The 'prize' would be pick 19 after priority picks are added. So let's say the Magic win. Without this rule, they already have pick 19. So with the rule, they get nothing. Of amy other team wins, Magic get a worse pick than they otherwise would.
Then look at a team like the Badgers. Probably should have finished top 8 but lost a few on HGA. We can move up like 6 or 7 places in the draft, and with hga for at least 2 finals, we would be hard to beat. Worst case we drop 1 place in the draft order. Basically heaps to gain and nothing to lose.
I could not be any more against this hahaha
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 06:16:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:14:20 PM
Quote from: nas on July 26, 2018, 06:11:36 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 06:03:13 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on July 26, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
See how the Steins have helped you? :P :-X
Sticks and steins may break my bones, but you will never win the premiership
1 in 8 chance vs 0!
I'd say you have as good a chance as i do
There is literally no point, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Quote from: Nige on July 26, 2018, 06:07:16 PM
There does not need to be any kind of reward for an extremely pointless bottom 8 finals comp.
Quote from: Koop on July 26, 2018, 06:24:43 PM
There is literally no point, if it ain't broke, don't fix break it.
ftfy
On the other hand, people love the argument "lets be more like the AFL" so bringing in showerty rules like this would be very consistent with the AFL :P
Quote from: iZander on July 26, 2018, 06:28:23 PM
On the other hand, people love the argument "lets be more like the AFL" so bringing in showerty rules like this would be very consistent with the AFL :P
I'm sorry, i didn't realize this was wxvs, mb
Thank You all and basically this suggestion for improving the competition will be consigned to the circular filing cabinet beside my office desk.
However if any one has got any suggestions to improve please feel free to contribute. I was going to suggest that badgers as the most improved team this year start with -4 points for next year. ;D
Also unlike the AFL if the consensus of coaches is no we do not proceed,
Quote from: Ringo on July 26, 2018, 06:42:47 PM
Thank You all and basically this suggestion for improving the competition will be consigned to the circular filing cabinet beside my office desk.
I was going to suggest that badgers as the most improved team this year start with -4 points for next year. ;D
i can certainly get behind this rule change :P
I'll approve if i get to be the only admin allowed to rule on trades
Just wondering, do the players not currently on anyone's list get chucked into the draft, or is there another way they can get picked up?
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
Just wondering, do the players not currently on anyone's list get chucked into the draft, or is there another way they can get picked up?
In the rookie draft :)
Quote from: iZander on July 26, 2018, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
Just wondering, do the players not currently on anyone's list get chucked into the draft, or is there another way they can get picked up?
In the rookie draft :)
Cheers iZander, and can we trade rookie draft picks?
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 26, 2018, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
Just wondering, do the players not currently on anyone's list get chucked into the draft, or is there another way they can get picked up?
In the rookie draft :)
Cheers iZander, and can we trade rookie draft picks?
yep sure can
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Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:30:26 PM
Quote from: iZander on July 26, 2018, 10:28:57 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 26, 2018, 10:26:37 PM
Just wondering, do the players not currently on anyone's list get chucked into the draft, or is there another way they can get picked up?
In the rookie draft :)
Cheers iZander, and can we trade rookie draft picks?
yep sure can
Sweet, thanks again :)
Still looking at further ways - Would not be an Admin if ideas not flagged.
Just thinking that as AF clubs have a minimum of 47 players on their roster should we increase our lists to 47. To achieve this proposing a mini draft of the left over players based on finishing positions for 16 - 1. Discussion on whether to snake for second Rd or redo the 16 - 1. We have some 83 players left over from last year so would take 32 in this mini draft.
Bottom Teams would get a chance to improve lists from these players as well.
If consensus achieved would do prior to opening trade period and start asap after consensus.
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2018, 11:00:18 AM
Still looking at further ways - Would not be an Admin if ideas not flagged.
Just thinking that as AF clubs have a minimum of 47 players on their roster should we increase our lists to 47. To achieve this proposing a mini draft of the left over players based on finishing positions for 16 - 1. Discussion on whether to snake for second Rd or redo the 16 - 1. We have some 83 players left over from last year so would take 32 in this mini draft.
Bottom Teams would get a chance to improve lists from these players as well.
If consensus achieved would do prior to opening trade period and start asap after consensus.
Yeah i dont mind either way in this tbh
But if it were to be done shouldnt we just add it on from the end of the rookie draft? This would allow the team to be able to use those spots to trade in players or trade in nat picks or whatever. instead of having a 3rd different draft? or did i misunderstand?
I assume it would be like a top up draft which we’ve had before when the teams in the comp were reduced
Basically a top up mini draft over 2 rounds to bring lists to 47 before trading and give the bottom teams a chance to get some quality left over players as a priority. There are some players left that were overlooked in draft that have become reasonable depth players,
I'd argue this could hurt the bottom teams. Less likely of picking up a good player in the rookie draft the following year.
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
I'd argue this could hurt the bottom teams. Less likely of picking up a good player in the rookie draft the following year.
Maybe but remember de-listed players go into the rookie draft each year as well and teams have to de-list to get draft picks. They also get first choice of players from the rookie draft,
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2018, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
I'd argue this could hurt the bottom teams. Less likely of picking up a good player in the rookie draft the following year.
Maybe but remember de-listed players go into the rookie draft each year as well and teams have to de-list to get draft picks. They also get first choice of players from the rookie draft,
My point is that it weakens the rookie draft, which kinda goes against what you're trying to achieve to help the bottom teams :p
I do like drafting though so I'm not gonna complain too much about extra picks haha. If we do this, I'd just extend the nat and/or rookie drafts by an extra round or two. Don't need an extra draft.
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2018, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
I'd argue this could hurt the bottom teams. Less likely of picking up a good player in the rookie draft the following year.
Maybe but remember de-listed players go into the rookie draft each year as well and teams have to de-list to get draft picks. They also get first choice of players from the rookie draft,
I do like drafting though so I'm not gonna complain too much about extra picks haha. If we do this, I'd just extend the nat and/or rookie drafts by an extra round or two. Don't need an extra draft.
Yep this is what i was trying to say lol
Quote from: iZander on July 27, 2018, 11:58:29 AM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:51:04 AM
Quote from: Ringo on July 27, 2018, 11:44:47 AM
Quote from: GoLions on July 27, 2018, 11:22:39 AM
I'd argue this could hurt the bottom teams. Less likely of picking up a good player in the rookie draft the following year.
Maybe but remember de-listed players go into the rookie draft each year as well and teams have to de-list to get draft picks. They also get first choice of players from the rookie draft,
I do like drafting though so I'm not gonna complain too much about extra picks haha. If we do this, I'd just extend the nat and/or rookie drafts by an extra round or two. Don't need an extra draft.
Yep this is what i was trying to say lol
Fair enough so maybe we add an additional rounds to this years rookie draft as that is where players will be added to bring team lists to 47. Need to get agreement on lifting to 47 though,
I'd be happy to lift to 47, if that's what the AFL uses with 18 sides, then it makes sense that we could do the same.
Would the 47 include players currently on our lists that have officially retired? (Such as K. Stevens, C. Rioli, C. Hanley, K. Tippett etc.)
It'd make sense to do this by adding an additional two rounds to the end of either the NAT draft or rookie draft, whichever seems more appropriate (I'm not sure which myself).
Quote from: SilverLion on July 27, 2018, 12:50:58 PM
Would the 47 include players currently on our lists that have officially retired? (Such as K. Stevens, C. Rioli, C. Hanley, K. Tippett etc.)
these players are forced delistings and you get infinite amount of picks at the end of the rookie draft until you fill you list fully
Quote from: iZander on July 27, 2018, 12:54:08 PM
Quote from: SilverLion on July 27, 2018, 12:50:58 PM
Would the 47 include players currently on our lists that have officially retired? (Such as K. Stevens, C. Rioli, C. Hanley, K. Tippett etc.)
these players are forced delistings and you get infinite amount of picks at the end of the rookie draft until you fill you list fully
Righto, I can get behind this idea then :)
Yeah, would think just adding rounds to the rookie draft is the way to resolve this one.
there is always a gem or two leftover from previous years, but in general the guys taken in the rookie draft past rnd2 are list cloggers anyway, so wouldnt be a massive impact to poorer teams.
Adding rounds to the rookie draft to fill up the list is fine.
Worlds does it and it works well.
So basically for drafting this year we will have 4 rounds of the National Draft following the National Draft and then sufficient picks to take lists to 47.
Quote from: Ringo on August 13, 2018, 06:37:25 PM
So basically for drafting this year we will have 4 rounds of the National Draft following the National Draft and then sufficient picks to take lists to 47.
4 rounds of rookie you mean? Could also go 5 rounds of NAT pending how many get taken in AFL draft.
Quote from: GoLions on August 13, 2018, 06:49:12 PM
Quote from: Ringo on August 13, 2018, 06:37:25 PM
So basically for drafting this year we will have 4 rounds of the National Draft following the National Draft and then sufficient picks to take lists to 47.
4 rounds of rookie you mean? Could also go 5 rounds of NAT pending how many get taken in AFL draft.
Rules at the moment are 4 national draft rounds and 3 rookie round drafts with supplementary picks to take lists to required number and I think we should keep to that if increasing lists to 47.
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Nobody should be getting any extra picks for winning the bottom 8 finals comp
Yeah that's probably fair.
Though there isn't really much to play for in the 'consolation' finals though.
We can get trades done while the others focus finals
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