Poll
Question:
Who wins?
Option 1: Swans
votes: 5
Option 2: Bulldogs
votes: 1
Option 3: Draw
votes: 1
Last 5:
R2, 2017 Western Bulldogs 16.14 (110) def Sydney Swans13.9 (87) ES
R27, 2016 Sydney Swans 10.7 (67) def by Western Bulldogs13.11 (89) MCG
R15, 2016 Sydney Swans 11.13 (79) def by Western Bulldogs13.5 (83) SCG
R5, 2015 Sydney Swans 10.13 (73) def by Western Bulldogs11.11 (77) SCG
R22, 2014 Western Bulldogs 9.13 (67) def by Sydney Swans20.10 (130) ES
Gary Rohan replaced by Harry Marsh
No late changes for the Dogs
Think the Swans might justtt get over the line, but will be really close.
So I threw the VC on Heeney in DT. It's paying off early. I also tipped the Swans for some unknown reason.
I remember when someone tried to tell me that CD rates disposal efficiency and not turning the ball over.
Bontempelli put in one of the worst quarters you'll see. 10 DT - 3 clangers, 3 disposals at 33%.... 17 SC. LOL.
Love this game.
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
I remember when someone tried to tell me that CD rates disposal efficiency and not turning the ball over.
Bontempelli put in one of the worst quarters you'll see. 10 DT - 3 clangers, 3 disposals at 33%.... 17 SC. LOL.
Love this game.
2 of the clangers were for FA's.
Heeney on track for 250
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 08, 2017, 09:03:51 PM
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 08:51:56 PM
I remember when someone tried to tell me that CD rates disposal efficiency and not turning the ball over.
Bontempelli put in one of the worst quarters you'll see. 10 DT - 3 clangers, 3 disposals at 33%.... 17 SC. LOL.
Love this game.
2 of the clangers were for FA's.
Regardless they're clangers. Free kicks against also are negative points.
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 09:11:27 PM
Regardless they're clangers. Free kicks against also are negative points.
The contested possession prior to the holding the ball negates the minus points since I think it's like 3 points for a contested possession and -4 for a FA
When does Cloke's contract expire?
Quote from: Mat0369 on June 08, 2017, 09:23:08 PM
When does Cloke's contract expire?
You would hope it's a year by year.
Classic Bont tonight
15 touches at 40% DE, 5 clangers and 4 Free's Against. Does have 8 tackles though, but that's 72SC at 3/4 time and on track for 100
Classic
I keep hearing there's 4 contenders this year.
Dogs, Adelaide, Cats, and GWS. For the life of me based on what we've seen this year and looking at some of the names getting a gig week by week don't know why Dogs are considered contenders. A team that finished 7th last year and had a good month of football.
Guys like Cloke, English, Jong, Dickson, Dale, Stringer, Mclean, and Suckling to name a few. Are all duds.
Gosh Sinclair is close to useless... beginning to rethink whether we did get the better deal from his Jetta trade... :p
Compare the pair.
37 disposals, 1 goal, 17 CP's, 6 clearances, 7 clangers, 3 tackles, 48% efficiency - 99 SC
vs
18 disposals, 0 goals, 7 CP's, 2 clearances, 6 clangers, 11 tackles, 38% efficiency - 92 SC
Supercoach blows.
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Compare the pair.
37 disposals, 1 goal, 17 CP's, 6 clearances, 7 clangers, 3 tackles, 48% efficiency - 99 SC
vs
18 disposals, 0 goals, 7 CP's, 2 clearances, 6 clangers, 11 tackles, 38% efficiency - 92 SC
Supercoach blows.
Yep Joey was BOG tonight easy and that 99 SC doesn't equate to the influence he had on the game
Marcus Adams in a moon-boot with crutches in the rooms, anyone know what the incident was?
Quote from: Gandalf123 on June 08, 2017, 10:53:33 PM
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Compare the pair.
37 disposals, 1 goal, 17 CP's, 6 clearances, 7 clangers, 3 tackles, 48% efficiency - 99 SC
vs
18 disposals, 0 goals, 7 CP's, 2 clearances, 6 clangers, 11 tackles, 38% efficiency - 92 SC
Supercoach blows.
Yep Joey was BOG tonight easy and that 99 SC doesn't equate to the influence he had on the game
I'm sure the disposal efficiency can be forgiven when the possessions are that contested. Apparently not.
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 08, 2017, 10:54:42 PM
Marcus Adams in a moon-boot with crutches in the rooms, anyone know what the incident was?
If Jude Bolton actually realised a boundary rider's job is to find out about injured players instead of saying "I haven't seen him" every time he was asked, then we might know ::)
Quote from: Rusty00 on June 08, 2017, 11:06:47 PM
Quote from: fanTCfool on June 08, 2017, 10:54:42 PM
Marcus Adams in a moon-boot with crutches in the rooms, anyone know what the incident was?
If Jude Bolton actually realised a boundary rider's job is to find out about injured players instead of saying "I haven't seen him" every time he was asked, then we might know ::)
Hahaha yeah, too busy enjoying the front row seat to his boys in action.
The commentators only knew that he 'mysteriously disappeared' and didn't emerge from the rooms after about half time.
Quote from: miamis_finest on June 08, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Compare the pair.
37 disposals, 1 goal, 17 CP's, 6 clearances, 7 clangers, 3 tackles, 48% efficiency - 99 SC
vs
18 disposals, 0 goals, 7 CP's, 2 clearances, 6 clangers, 11 tackles, 38% efficiency - 92 SC
Supercoach blows.
Well....
JPKon DE... 51.4% of 37 is 19 effective disposals. JPK is the best handballer in the universe so lets assume more handballs would be effective than kicks. Lets say 18 of his 22 were effective, meaning only 1 kick was effective...
18 handballs = 27 pts
1 kicks = 4
1 goal = 8
17 contested possessions = 76.5
clearances don't count for points in SC
7 clangers = -28
3 tackles =12
2 marks (uncontested) = 4
2 FF = 8
1 1%er (if a shepherd) = 1.5
Total = 113
*Note* Also factor in scaling during the game
So 99SC could be achievable
BONTon DE... 38.9% of 18 is 7 effective disposals. Bont is the best kick in the universe, and more kicks hit targets than his handballs. Sol lets say 2 of his 6 were effective, meaning only 5 kicks were effective...
2 handballs = 3
5 kicks = 20
1 behind = 1
8 contested possessions = 36
clearances don't count for points in SC
6 clangers = -24
11 tackles =44
6 marks (uncontested) = 12
4 1%er (if a shepherd) = 6
1 Hitout (if to advantage) = 5
Total = 103
*Note* Also factor in scaling during the game
So 92SC could be achievable
Why must you ruin a good whinge with your cold hard logic! :)
Sounds like CD had a lot of questions on that last night. Their latest tweet explains the breakdown of scoring for Bont and JPK
Quote from: PowerBug on June 09, 2017, 11:17:02 AM
Sounds like CD had a lot of questions on that last night. Their latest tweet explains the breakdown of scoring for Bont and JPK
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB1ojqcUIAEHaLQ.jpg)
I've hit up CD for an unscaled breakdown. Don't think we'll get it but would provide heaaaps more clarity on some scoring i don't have
One thing I learned from that data is F/a are not the standard -4.
Quote from: Ringo on June 09, 2017, 03:43:25 PM
One thing I learned from that data is F/a are not the standard -4.
I had noticed that it rarely is worth negative anything. I'll be watching the live tracker and a player will have a FA but their score won't move. In a way I think -4 is too hard of a punishment considering umpires can make the incorrect call.
It's also why I think 50's are really noticeable because that's 99% of the time out of pure stupidity.