Is it worth upgrading D Beams to Rory knowing that he is probably the most expensive he will be? I am not sure if I should try and fix some other part of my team than D Beams. Rory has been killing it in a team of great form.
Quote from: doogz on May 01, 2017, 11:05:26 AM
Is it worth upgrading D Beams to Rory knowing that he is probably the most expensive he will be? I am not sure if I should try and fix some other part of my team than D Beams. Rory has been killing it in a team of great form.
As good as he has been surely you can make alot more points going say Parfitt to Lance Franklin or mid rookie to Dustin Martin then you can Beams to Sloane.
really at the end of the day if its Sloane + Parfitt v Beams + Buddy your going to need Sloane to beat Buddy by 35 points which is a very tough ask.
Would fix other lines if they are more of an issue. Richmond and Port are the only Top 8 sides he has played as well. He seems to each year have a period where he scores in the 80's and 90's. Hoping this continues and enbales to get him cheaper. Did that last year.
Does Sloane really not have his own massive thread somewhere? This was all I could find...
So, on the back of 177 last night, he topped his 143 BE, price will go up, and his BE will be pretty low. I was hoping he would go down again and be well priced to pick up after bye, but looks like he might be on the up again. With Titch, Pendles and Fyfe all out round 13, would you pick him up before bye? or hope he has a bad game in the next couple...
I'm leaning towards grabbing him now...
Quote from: GCSkiwi on May 28, 2017, 11:19:31 AM
Does Sloane really not have his own massive thread somewhere? This was all I could find...
So, on the back of 177 last night, he topped his 143 BE, price will go up, and his BE will be pretty low. I was hoping he would go down again and be well priced to pick up after bye, but looks like he might be on the up again. With Titch, Pendles and Fyfe all out round 13, would you pick him up before bye? or hope he has a bad game in the next couple...
I'm leaning towards grabbing him now...
Depends on the rest of your setup for the byes. I personally am not getting him until after the byes if trades permit and am looking at Hanners / JPK after round 11 to finish my midfield.
What a beautiful man :-* has turned my week around
Quote from: GCSkiwi on May 28, 2017, 11:19:31 AM
Does Sloane really not have his own massive thread somewhere? This was all I could find...
So, on the back of 177 last night, he topped his 143 BE, price will go up, and his BE will be pretty low. I was hoping he would go down again and be well priced to pick up after bye, but looks like he might be on the up again. With Titch, Pendles and Fyfe all out round 13, would you pick him up before bye? or hope he has a bad game in the next couple...
I'm leaning towards grabbing him now...
The only way you can get Sloane in this week is a by trading out Fyfe for him IMO.
Fyfe doesn't seem interested playing for Freo this year anyways and by doing this it also doesn't flower up your bye structure.
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 28, 2017, 01:35:07 PM
Quote from: GCSkiwi on May 28, 2017, 11:19:31 AM
Does Sloane really not have his own massive thread somewhere? This was all I could find...
So, on the back of 177 last night, he topped his 143 BE, price will go up, and his BE will be pretty low. I was hoping he would go down again and be well priced to pick up after bye, but looks like he might be on the up again. With Titch, Pendles and Fyfe all out round 13, would you pick him up before bye? or hope he has a bad game in the next couple...
I'm leaning towards grabbing him now...
The only way you can get Sloane in this week is a by trading out Fyfe for him IMO.
Fyfe doesn't seem interested playing for Freo this year anyways and by doing this it also doesn't flower up your bye structure.
Fyfe is a luxury trade in finals, yesterday was bad but he had 6 FA which isn't every game and still scored 78 in a 100 point loss. Not worth trading him now. I can probably trade out WHE and move one of my M/F bench fwd to afford Sloane, will have to see final price changes. Same bye... Thinking Eddy + WHE to Sloane and Greenwood if cash allows.
Got on this week for Sandi. Best trade of the year, got me 500 odd places up to the top ~100
Im mighty tempted to go fyfe to sloane.
looks super sideways.
however
108 117 113 107 126 62 99 99 98 78
v
77 146 168 124 139 140 80 70 119 177
doesnt look sideways at all.
I am going Balic to Sloane this week*
* Along with a couple of other trades that are not relevant to this thread
Mids complete!** Aaaaaahhhh.
** IMO as I have Treloar and Fyfe still
Quote from: Holz on May 29, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Im mighty tempted to go fyfe to sloane.
looks super sideways.
however
108 117 113 107 126 62 99 99 98 78
v
77 146 168 124 139 140 80 70 119 177
doesnt look sideways at all.
Better to go Fyfe to Rocky next week.
Quote from: Bully on May 29, 2017, 01:12:32 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 29, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Im mighty tempted to go fyfe to sloane.
looks super sideways.
however
108 117 113 107 126 62 99 99 98 78
v
77 146 168 124 139 140 80 70 119 177
doesnt look sideways at all.
Better to go Fyfe to Rocky next week.
If Rocky is selected that is. Not guaranteed at this stage AND still a risk IMO (and I have held onto him so I hope I am wrong)
Quote from: Holz on May 29, 2017, 12:57:28 PM
Im mighty tempted to go fyfe to sloane.
looks super sideways.
however
108 117 113 107 126 62 99 99 98 78
v
77 146 168 124 139 140 80 70 119 177
doesnt look sideways at all.
I mean if the rest of your mids/team is set, go for it. But I don't think most people are in that space.
It's the 130+ bracket that stands out, Fyfe 0, Sloane 5. But Fyfe's first 5 are fine, then of the next 5 he's got two 99s and a 98. Sloane has 3 under 90, Fyfe 2.
Sure Fyfe's not hitting it out of the park, but he's come back from a year of no footy into a team that's been spotty. And he had 6FA in his 78, how often will that happen?
I think you want to get Sloane in, I'm not convinced it's at the expense of Fyfe. But it's tricky around byes etc. I can trade Balic and WHE for Sloane and Greenwood, byes netral and all kinds of winning on the scoresheet. I'll be happy to keep Fyfe as M8 at worst.
Still torn about Rory, want but the round 13 bye is a worry. The big issue is this could be the last opportunity to get him at a cheap price. Will sleep on it.
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Will become cheaper, all players fluctuate enough to say that he will be below his current price in the next three months. Knowing when is the hard part and I often think it's better to just pay than crystal ball too much.
100% do not buy that he can't handle a tag. Vince smashed him - as he has done many, including danger - and no doubt he will be beaten many times more in his career, but he's a CB and tackling beast who has copped stacks of attention for years. Will be fine with the tag
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Wouldn't call Nick Robertson and expert at tagging though :P And Connor Blakely doesn't seem to listen to what Ross tells him and just goes and gets his own ball anyway. It wasn't anything like what Vince did (And maybe what Scooter will do this Friday??)
Quote from: PowerBug on May 29, 2017, 10:12:07 PM
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Wouldn't call Nick Robertson and expert at tagging though :P And Connor Blakely doesn't seem to listen to what Ross tells him and just goes and gets his own ball anyway. It wasn't anything like what Vince did (And maybe what Scooter will do this Friday??)
Ehh a tag is a tag :P
Both teams tried it and it failed, I'm confident Sloane knows how to handle a tag, and I don't think anyone can do what Vince does against us haha, done a job like that twice now, once against Danger and now Sloane.
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Ha! Ha! You're kidding right? ::)
Lions (without Robinson) and Freo (no Barlow anymore) = non existent taggers mate....
Sloane melts like butter when a decent tagger is on him all day.
Plays like a champion with no decent tag on him though.
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 30, 2017, 03:16:50 AM
Quote from: TomK on May 29, 2017, 09:43:52 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on May 29, 2017, 09:33:29 PM
Surely Sloane becomes cheap again at some other stage of the season.
He doesn't handle a tag very well at all and more teams will tag him before the season ends.
Was tagged the past two weeks but sure.
Ha! Ha! You're kidding right? ::)
Lions (without Robinson) and Freo (no Barlow anymore) = non existent taggers mate....
Sloane melts like butter when a decent tagger is on him all day.
Plays like a champion with no decent tag on him though.
Nick Robertson and Connor Blakely tried to tag him but sure.
Tag or no tag after 10 rounds he is the highest scoring mid
going to get the scott selwood tag this week are we worried at all?
Quote from: Holz on May 30, 2017, 10:42:15 AM
going to get the scott selwood tag this week are we worried at all?
BE 49 so you've basically got to pray he gets towelled up and scores 70-80, price still goes up a bit, same situation again next week, bye round 13, then big BE round 14 as the 177 leaves, try to pick him up round 15 - will he even be lower price than now??? is it worth it???
Quote from: shaker on May 30, 2017, 10:21:49 AM
Tag or no tag after 10 rounds he is the highest scoring mid
Scooter's tags are always light ones. Sloane will still have enough opportunities.
Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE. R13 bye hurting most people. If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.
Quote from: batt on May 30, 2017, 12:16:43 PM
Scooter's tags are always light ones. Sloane will still have enough opportunities.
Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE. R13 bye hurting most people. If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.
Yeah if it wasn't for the round 13 bye I would get him without hesitation. But have so many premos out that week :(
Quote from: tommy10 on May 30, 2017, 09:32:51 PM
Quote from: batt on May 30, 2017, 12:16:43 PM
Scooter's tags are always light ones. Sloane will still have enough opportunities.
Can't avoid the #1 scoring player in SC at sub $600k with a low BE. R13 bye hurting most people. If you have wiggle room in R13, he's a must IMO.
Yeah if it wasn't for the round 13 bye I would get him without hesitation. But have so many premos out that week :(
It's a maths argument. If you don't get Sloane now, how many points do you miss in the gap between now and when you get him, and how much money do you pay? Is that better or worse than possibly copping a donut round 13?
Work out who you'll be trading out to get Sloane in. Say it's a round bye player, it's bye neutral. But your plan might have been to wait until round 12/13 and trade to someone who has already had their bye. That could still work, but say you get 75 + 75 round 11 and 12 from that rook, then pick up someone like Jelwood/Bont for round 13, get 115 points. Sloane has gone say 125 + 125 + 0. So The Jelwood/Bont option gets you 75+75+115 = 165 points, Sloane with a side of donut gets you 125+125+0 = 250. Not a big difference.
Where it really matters is how long
after the byes until you get Sloane. If you get him round 14, you're paying top dollar for him, and his BE will probably come up because the 177 will drop out of his average. But ok, you're 15 points ahead. Round 15 his price drops a little, but you had your 115 prem against Sloane 125, so now you're only 5 points ahead. Round 16, his price might be back where it is now, and your 115 vs 125 means you're 5 points behind now.
His current projections predict his price to be at a low again in round 17/18, I think the projections are maybe optimistic but I think 16/17 is realistic, and I don't think he'll be cheaper than he is now. If you wait until then, the points you miss will likely be more than just getting him now and eating a donut.
Sloane versus Wines
105 + 105 + 105 = 315
vs
125 + 125 + 0 = 250
Then up to round 17 when Sloane bottoms out again, 105 x 3 = 315 versus 125 x 3 = 375
Net result = Wines +5
Well put. The only thing I would emphasis is his high SD, and the fact he's gone over 139 four times [edit: five times]. So while all of what you say sounds right, with Sloane, much like Danger, you take the further risk that he pulls out a 160 in rd. 14. This costs both points and prevents him from coming back down in price.
This thinking is basically why as I rule I think it's worth just paying for the Dangers, Pendles, Sloanes of the world. It's true that you could have saved ~125k by waiting for Danger or to come down but knowing when he's going to get two 90s in a row and when he's going to go 150 then 200 is too hard and is basically just looking into a crystal ball. Same goes for Sloane - if you it fits your structure I think you just have to get him now
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
Sloane versus Wines
105 + 105 + 105 = 315
vs
125 + 125 + 0 = 250
Then up to round 17 when Sloane bottoms out again, 105 x 3 = 315 versus 125 x 3 = 375
Net result = Wines +5
its simple dont trade in Sloane if he gets you a donut.
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
Sloane versus Wines
105 + 105 + 105 = 315
vs
125 + 125 + 0 = 250
Then up to round 17 when Sloane bottoms out again, 105 x 3 = 315 versus 125 x 3 = 375
Net result = Wines +5
its simple dont trade in Sloane if he gets you a donut.
Sorry but it's really not that simple Holz. It's easy for me, barring unforeseen restings (which I'll have 2 trades to deal with anyway, and nothing I can do about it now) I'm fine for the byes. But taking price, trades, and points over time into consideration, I reckon Sloane wins just about 99% of the time.
Wines is a good test case because they don't have the bye. That's a scenario where you could be better off. Still, for +5 you're a trade and money worse off in all likelihood, still worth those 5 points? And these are all assuming Sloane scores at his average, but as dc says,
Quote from: dylanclements on May 31, 2017, 10:13:19 AM
you take the further risk that he pulls out a 160 in rd. 14. This costs both points and prevents him from coming back down in price.
It's not even just round 14, if Sloane has a big game pretty much any stage between now and round 17, you're most likely points and money worse off, regardless of who you bring in (even eg Wines). Sloane is 5/10 games over 130. Worth the risk?
Quote from: GCSkiwi on May 31, 2017, 10:31:40 AM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 10:14:29 AM
Quote from: Bully on May 31, 2017, 10:09:53 AM
Sloane versus Wines
105 + 105 + 105 = 315
vs
125 + 125 + 0 = 250
Then up to round 17 when Sloane bottoms out again, 105 x 3 = 315 versus 125 x 3 = 375
Net result = Wines +5
its simple dont trade in Sloane if he gets you a donut.
Sorry but it's really not that simple Holz. It's easy for me, barring unforeseen restings (which I'll have 2 trades to deal with anyway, and nothing I can do about it now) I'm fine for the byes. But taking price, trades, and points over time into consideration, I reckon Sloane wins just about 99% of the time.
Wines is a good test case because they don't have the bye. That's a scenario where you could be better off. Still, for +5 you're a trade and money worse off in all likelihood, still worth those 5 points? And these are all assuming Sloane scores at his average, but as dc says,
Quote from: dylanclements on May 31, 2017, 10:13:19 AM
you take the further risk that he pulls out a 160 in rd. 14. This costs both points and prevents him from coming back down in price.
It's not even just round 14, if Sloane has a big game pretty much any stage between now and round 17, you're most likely points and money worse off, regardless of who you bring in (even eg Wines). Sloane is 5/10 games over 130. Worth the risk?
I reckon it is though. Sloane is great but he is not that good (like danger last year) that there isnt any other options.
Joel Selwood is a good option at 547k if you have issues with Sloane round 13 bye
Tom Rockliff should be back next week and pretty much same average and price as Sloane
So essentially Sloane i rate as the number 1 premo pick up this week, bit if it causes a donut there are other options.
This is for Overall players, trying to win league is a whole other thing.
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 11:00:16 AM
I reckon it is though. Sloane is great but he is not that good (like danger last year) that there isnt any other options.
Joel Selwood is a good option at 547k if you have issues with Sloane round 13 bye
Tom Rockliff should be back next week and pretty much same average and price as Sloane
So essentially Sloane i rate as the number 1 premo pick up this week, bit if it causes a donut there are other options.
This is for Overall players, trying to win league is a whole other thing.
Yeah fair point on Rocky, but anyone else I dunno man. Depends heavily on who you're playing in the interim I guess, but if you get Joelwood now, he's out next week. Which, sure, you might be able to cover. But still, you pick up Sloane later for a higher price. But based on averages as it stands, I think there's a great chance Sloane can outscore other outcomes even with a donut. Basically, whatever rookie covers the week your non-Sloane premo is out, can Sloane make that many points extra compared to other prems over the weeks between now and when you get him? And if you get him earlier and pay a ton for him, what are you sacrificing to allow that? Even from an overall perspective the numbers make sense to me to get him this week, donut or not.
With that said, if you're in a position right now where you can't trade out a bye 13 player to get Sloane, or trading in Sloane means you have so many players not playing round 13 that you can't avoid a donut with 6 trades over the next 2 weeks, you aren't in the running for overall :P
Quote from: GCSkiwi on May 31, 2017, 10:31:40 AM
Wines is a good test case because they don't have the bye. That's a scenario where you could be better off. Still, for +5 you're a trade and money worse off in all likelihood, still worth those 5 points?
You save 120k from the initial outlay, Wines should also appreciate in a similar manner to Sloane as he's undervalue by 58k. The money saved will be used on a Fyfe to Rocky trade next week.
Is it bad of me sitting 41st to not go Sloane in an attempt to hope he crashes and burns?
Had him last year and while he was awesome he was never this good. Think he slows down at some point.
Danger Pendles Rocky Bont JPK Fyfe Merrett Murphy will be the finished mids.
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 10:14:29 AM
its simple dont trade in Sloane if he gets you a donut.
Holz spitting truth right here. It is ultra simple. It's at most a 5ppg loss if you can cover him. That doesn't account for the fact you get a legit VC/C option which can make up some of those points down the line.
Trades are worth points on their own too. At least 200.
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:13:34 PM
Is it bad of me sitting 41st to not go Sloane in an attempt to hope he crashes and burns?
Had him last year and while he was awesome he was never this good. Think he slows down at some point.
Danger Pendles Rocky Bont JPK Fyfe Merrett Murphy will be the finished mids.
Pretty strong mids. If you use trades and money well elsewhere you should be able to offset Sloane's extra points, but depends how the rest of the team will finish up.
Also just wanted to add to the argument.
do you all see him continuing to average 125? I sure as hell don't.
115 at best on the run home imo.
Quote from: js19 on May 31, 2017, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:13:34 PM
Is it bad of me sitting 41st to not go Sloane in an attempt to hope he crashes and burns?
Had him last year and while he was awesome he was never this good. Think he slows down at some point.
Danger Pendles Rocky Bont JPK Fyfe Merrett Murphy will be the finished mids.
Pretty strong mids. If you use trades and money well elsewhere you should be able to offset Sloane's extra points, but depends how the rest of the team will finish up.
Docherty Adams Laird Montagna Howe Lloyd
Goldy, (hopefully Gawn but Sandi atm)
Dahl Macrae Nank Buddy Lynch Higgins
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
Also just wanted to add to the argument.
do you all see him continuing to average 125? I sure as hell don't.
115 at best on the run home imo.
Everyone knew Adelaide had the dream run up until the byes. Well done to those who backed him from the start after coming off the eye socket fracture but I just can't justify it now, not with the Rd13 bye.
I would be surprised if the back half replicates the first but you never know.
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:58:05 PM
Quote from: js19 on May 31, 2017, 01:56:03 PM
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:13:34 PM
Is it bad of me sitting 41st to not go Sloane in an attempt to hope he crashes and burns?
Had him last year and while he was awesome he was never this good. Think he slows down at some point.
Danger Pendles Rocky Bont JPK Fyfe Merrett Murphy will be the finished mids.
Pretty strong mids. If you use trades and money well elsewhere you should be able to offset Sloane's extra points, but depends how the rest of the team will finish up.
Docherty Adams Laird Montagna Howe Lloyd
Goldy, (hopefully Gawn but Sandi atm)
Dahl Macrae Nank Buddy Lynch Higgins
Solid. Sandi, Fyfe and Howe probably the only question marks at this point in the he season, but should be able to make some inroads. Personally getting Sloane, but still have mids to fill, so not compromising other lines to get there.
If you look at Adelaide's fixture, Sloane should do well against the teams scheduled to play
Quote from: batt on May 31, 2017, 01:53:24 PM
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 10:14:29 AM
its simple dont trade in Sloane if he gets you a donut.
Holz spitting truth right here. It is ultra simple. It's at most a 5ppg loss if you can cover him. That doesn't account for the fact you get a legit VC/C option which can make up some of those points down the line.
Trades are worth points on their own too. At least 200.
I feel like your comment is the exact counterargument to Holz' point :P
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
Also just wanted to add to the argument.
do you all see him continuing to average 125? I sure as hell don't.
115 at best on the run home imo.
I didn't see him averaging 125 for the first 10, but here we are. Valid point though, it's all crystal ball gazing really. I stack up numbers based on form, with 5/10 games over 130 he's hard to ignore.
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 01:56:57 PM
do you all see him continuing to average 125? I sure as hell don't.
Strong call! That's well within his scope to my mind. I would've thought 120-125 isn't that unlikely
Of course it's a big call but look at the Bont. Everyone mouth watering over his start to the year but he's slowly coming back to the group. Pendles slowly increasing his average, 6/10 over 120 but only averaging 114. Think Sloaney's big big games will slow down. He's an AO specialist, 77 168 124 140 70 177, outside of there he's 146 139 80 119 which is still great but not as impressive. After Rd 14 only 4 more games out of his last 9 vs 8/14 to start the year.
Last 2 at SS 83 and 82. Plays there tomorrow. Then has Saints and hawks both at home so expected 120+ returns.
Then Carlton who he has a highest of 114 against at the G, plays Dogs with a career avg of 95, then has Vince tag again before Geelong again and then Pies who he also has a career avg of 95 against also playing at the G, in which he only averages 90 at compared to 120 at Adelaide Oval. Then has PA, Dons, Sydney so expected 110+ returns and then eagles at Domain which is always tougher.
So could go 80, 125, 125, 110, 100, 100, 110, 100, 115, 115, 115, 105
There's a 110 average ^^ taking into account his record. Yeah maybe a few higher scores to inflate avg. Lower scores too with Vince, and other bad records. Also has the bye to come, so drops the avg further. 110-115 is totally conceivable in this case. I don't think he's a massive must. Rocky on the other hand well
I see your general thinking, and 115 is plausible enough, I admit it. Even on this analysis though, you point out he averages 122.5 away from home this season, and predict he won't go over 125 again for the whole season - home or away. Pretty massive and somewhat anomalous call. I think it's more natural to assume he gets that 120+ and hits 150 three or four more times, but at the end of the day it aint my job to be lecturing 41st overall :P
Quote from: dylanclements on May 31, 2017, 03:37:05 PM
I see your general thinking, and 115 is plausible enough, I admit it. Even on this analysis though, you point out he averages 122.5 away from home this season, and predict he won't go over 125 again for the whole season - home or away. Pretty massive and somewhat anomalous call. I think it's more natural to assume he gets that 120+ and hits 150 three or four more times, but at the end of the day it aint my job to be lecturing 41st overall :P
That is a fair call. He did play Hawks (titch only mid), Gold Coast (rabble), NM (career avg of 116), and Brisbane (no rocky, robbo) away from home though. Much easier teams to beat up compared to Geelong at SS, Dogs, Melb (Vince), Pies, Dons, WCE at Domain. My conservative numbers got him a 110 average, 2 150's increases the average by 5 to 115. Think he'll notch up 5/6 150's on the run home to get him to 120-125? Doubt it.
Couple of 150s and maybe three or four 140s sounds well likely to me. I don't really believe the top echelon mids tend to shred bad teams any more than they do good teams, as a rule. The Pendles, Selwoods, etc. of the world are near on just as likely to play their best footy when the heat is really turned up as when they're playing Brisbane. I'm thinking, e.g., of Bont towards the end of last season/finals. This is probably different to KPPs, especially forwards, who do make hay while the shines a bit more. I mean all this both as regards SC and impact generally.
Doubt I'm doing much to convince you at this point though mate, haha. Maybe we agree to disagree and the rest of the season shows up one of us right!
Quote from: dylanclements on May 31, 2017, 04:20:23 PM
Couple of 150s and maybe three or four 140s sounds well likely to me. I don't really believe the top echelon mids tend to shred bad teams any more than they do good teams, as a rule. The Pendles, Selwoods, etc. of the world are near on just as likely to play their best footy when the heat is really turned up as when they're playing Brisbane. I'm thinking, e.g., of Bont towards the end of last season/finals. This is probably different to KPPs, especially forwards, who do make hay while the shines a bit more. I mean all this both as regards SC and impact generally.
Doubt I'm doing much to convince you at this point though mate, haha. Maybe we agree to disagree and the rest of the season shows up one of us right!
I'd just rather Rocky. Freo next week (3 rd 145 avg against) then Port (terrible record) then draw opens up for him. Has Dons (113 career avg), Tigs (pumped a 176 against them this year, career avg of 121)en thn Blues (204, 159, 145, 97, 182) in his last 5 against them from rds 15-18. 7/12 games at the Gabba and he always smashes the second half of the year. Plus his bye is done.
Quote from: _wato on May 31, 2017, 04:31:29 PM
I'd just rather Rocky.
Can't argue with that. I'd take Sloane tbh - but I'm lucky enough to have one and getting the other. Hard to split em. Shoulder a slight concern but his ceiling is off the rails this year, and will probably win one or two games for me by himself
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Quote from: dylanclements on May 31, 2017, 04:20:23 PM
Couple of 150s and maybe three or four 140s sounds well likely to me. I don't really believe the top echelon mids tend to shred bad teams any more than they do good teams, as a rule. The Pendles, Selwoods, etc. of the world are near on just as likely to play their best footy when the heat is really turned up as when they're playing Brisbane. I'm thinking, e.g., of Bont towards the end of last season/finals. This is probably different to KPPs, especially forwards, who do make hay while the shines a bit more. I mean all this both as regards SC and impact generally.
Doubt I'm doing much to convince you at this point though mate, haha. Maybe we agree to disagree and the rest of the season shows up one of us right!
I'd just rather Rocky. Freo next week (3 rd 145 avg against) then Port (terrible record) then draw opens up for him. Has Dons (113 career avg), Tigs (pumped a 176 against them this year, career avg of 121)en thn Blues (204, 159, 145, 97, 182) in his last 5 against them from rds 15-18. 7/12 games at the Gabba and he always smashes the second half of the year. Plus his bye is done.
Fyfe to Rocky just about a done deal for me.
Sloane Rocky Pendles Danger you cant go wrong with these guys.
Titchell and Neale need to join the conversation aswell.
Sloane is 580k even if he goes 115 he is a great pick up. Almost certain top 8 mid.
Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Sloane Rocky Pendles Danger you cant go wrong with these guys.
Titchell and Neale need to join the conversation aswell.
Sloane is 580k even if he goes 115 he is a great pick up. Almost certain top 8 mid.
Agree. Sloane this week for me
Post bye midfield:
Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Rocky, Titch, Selwood, Neale, Murphy 8)
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Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Sloane Rocky Pendles Danger you cant go wrong with these guys.
Titchell and Neale need to join the conversation aswell.
Sloane is 580k even if he goes 115 he is a great pick up. Almost certain top 8 mid.
Agree. Sloane this week for me
Post bye midfield:
Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Rocky, Titch, Selwood, Neale, Murphy 8)
That is a top notch midfield!
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Quote from: Holz on May 31, 2017, 05:27:36 PM
Sloane Rocky Pendles Danger you cant go wrong with these guys.
Titchell and Neale need to join the conversation aswell.
Sloane is 580k even if he goes 115 he is a great pick up. Almost certain top 8 mid.
Agree. Sloane this week for me
Post bye midfield:
Danger, Pendles, Sloane, Rocky, Titch, Selwood, Neale, Murphy 8)
That is a top notch midfield!
Only Ferraris in the middle!
Unfortunately a few Ladas and Nissan Micras elsewhere... ;D
Nothing wrong with the hard working Commo
Quote from: Dudge on May 31, 2017, 08:41:31 PM
Nothing wrong with the hard working Commo
Have you seen Priddis this year though? Not quite the workhorse he use to be.
A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
Picking him up last week was one of my best trades. Currently averaging 177 in my team 8)
Quote from: GCSkiwi on June 01, 2017, 09:06:54 AM
A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
danger, pendles, murphy, dusty, fyfe, danger, pendles, jpk and Jack Steele, M9, choice of rocky, selwood, bont, titch for last spot. will depend on cash and bottoming out of relevant players. Might be able to afford Rocky now that Bolton looks like keeping his job.
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Quote from: GCSkiwi on June 01, 2017, 09:06:54 AM
A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
danger, pendles, murphy, dusty, fyfe, danger, pendles, jpk and Jack Steele, M9, choice of rocky, selwood, bont, titch for last spot. will depend on cash and bottoming out of relevant players. Might be able to afford Rocky now that Bolton looks like keeping his job.
Not fair mate you have Danger and Pendles twice
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Quote from: GCSkiwi on June 01, 2017, 09:06:54 AM
A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
danger, pendles, murphy, dusty, fyfe, danger, pendles, jpk and Jack Steele, M9, choice of rocky, selwood, bont, titch for last spot. will depend on cash and bottoming out of relevant players. Might be able to afford Rocky now that Bolton looks like keeping his job.
Not fair mate you have Danger and Pendles twice
Yeah I want them, Jelwood and Rocky twice too :P
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A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
danger, pendles, murphy, dusty, fyfe, danger, pendles, jpk and Jack Steele, M9, choice of rocky, selwood, bont, titch for last spot. will depend on cash and bottoming out of relevant players. Might be able to afford Rocky now that Bolton looks like keeping his job.
Not fair mate you have Danger and Pendles twice
Yeah I want them, Jelwood and Rocky twice too :P
Can't believe I've been doing Supercoach for this long and have never realised you could duplicate players
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A micra is a solidly reliable vehicle! Ladas however...
my post-bye mids should be Sloane, Pendles, Danger, Jelwood, Titch, Bont, Fyfe and Rocky. I have the first 7 after getting Sloane this week, Rocky the one to come in next week. Pretty happy with that.
danger, pendles, murphy, dusty, fyfe, danger, pendles, jpk and Jack Steele, M9, choice of rocky, selwood, bont, titch for last spot. will depend on cash and bottoming out of relevant players. Might be able to afford Rocky now that Bolton looks like keeping his job.
Not fair mate you have Danger and Pendles twice
Yeah I want them, Jelwood and Rocky twice too :P
Probably why I am 10k+ this year, a few too many typos and mistakes on trades. Should be Beams in and Danger/Pendles once each ;D ;D
Another under par score against Geelong at Skilled.
Will be interesting to see how close he does go to the 115 avg I called out. 89 to start so looking ok for my prediction.
Quote from: _wato on June 03, 2017, 12:56:20 AM
Another under par score against Geelong at Skilled.
Will be interesting to see how close he does go to the 115 avg I called out. 89 to start so looking ok for my prediction.
Was a great call mate. There's a reason why you are where you are. Just sit back and enjoy the Rocky show from next week onwards - I'm coming along with you!
Quote from: _wato on June 03, 2017, 12:56:20 AM
Another under par score against Geelong at Skilled.
Will be interesting to see how close he does go to the 115 avg I called out. 89 to start so looking ok for my prediction.
Basically every player, ever
Sloane is a fun but has never really stepped up in games he's been tagged by good opposition. Owners would be showerting themselves as, Geelong, Melbourne etc have shown, you stop Sloane you stop Adelaide
Quote from: King_Robbo on June 03, 2017, 11:28:06 AM
Sloane is a fun but has never really stepped up in games he's been tagged by good opposition. Owners would be showerting themselves as, Geelong, Melbourne etc have shown, you stop Sloane you stop Adelaide
Not exactly. Sloane has a big influence in the team but there's more to the team than just Sloane. Their fwd line is the best in the comp, you need to shut them down too like the Cats did last night. Plus Laird was tackled to the ground head first which affected his score. Basically Crows we're smashed in all parts of the ground and was pretty hard for anyone to have a real influence in the game.
Probably didn't help that he was standing on the boundary line for 8 mins in the first quarter :P
He had some players spend some time on him but really no one scored good for the Crows they were soundly beaten most of the night like a lot of teams will at SS and I have had Danger Selwood Kelly and Martin take up the slack this week so all good :P still rather have Sloane in my team than not because you know a big score is never to far away
I've traded in Rocky but my brain is telling me it should be Sloane.
I'm going to have this conflict all week I know it.
Quote from: Ingram on June 05, 2017, 02:16:06 AM
I've traded in Rocky but my brain is telling me it should be Sloane.
I'm going to have this conflict all week I know it.
Fast forward to R14. Are you taking Rocky+60 points or Sloane? Rocky every day. He doesn't even need the head start :)
I got burnt last year by Rocky but he does look dangerous​ in my team. High risk high reward. My team as of Rnd13 will be:
Adams, Laird, Robbo
Shaw, Harbrow, Doch
TMitch, Fyfe, Trelor,
Hanner, Rocky, Danger,
Selwood, Martin
Nank, Witts
Macrae, Dhal, Frank
Greene, Yeo, Ryder.
Shaw, Fyfe, Harbrow looking vulnerable tbh. Witts hopefully to Gawn once he bottoms out.
My prediction now looking very solid in a game where I expected him to go large.
89 + 66 = 175 / 2 = 77.5 avg since I began tracking his scores.
Currently 55 points behind my apparent 'conservative' prediction of a 115 avg.
Feel for those that paid 600k+ for him. Should be very cheap in a couple of weeks.
Quote from: quinny88 on June 10, 2017, 12:45:38 AM
Feel for those that paid 600k+ for him. Should be very cheap in a couple of weeks.
Don't feel sorry at all, smile and wave at their sorry a$$e$
Since the Melbourne game when I foolishly bought him in, he has cost me 3 league games as all 3 of my opponents havnt had him.
Ironically the game he went 170 I played someone who had him VC!
It's a cruel game! He is becoming a liability now when he gets tagged and opposition coaches will now go to any lengths to put on a hard tag!
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Quote from: quinny88 on June 10, 2017, 12:45:38 AM
Feel for those that paid 600k+ for him. Should be very cheap in a couple of weeks.
Don't feel sorry at all, smile and wave at their sorry a$$e$
Every sane coach tried their best to talk them out of it. 20% of Sloane's owners paid $675k for him and have had an average of 100.1 since. Don't buy premiums at their top price.
Sloane was going to be my last midfield upgrade (s.selwood m8 atm). With the lack of his ability to break tags lately I think I'm going to look elsewhere, even thou he is going to be cheap.
Quote from: Dolan on June 10, 2017, 01:33:13 AM
Sloane was going to be my last midfield upgrade (s.selwood m8 atm). With the lack of his ability to break tags lately I think I'm going to look elsewhere, even thou he is going to be cheap.
nah the break will do him good too and still easily top 8 mid even if has the occasional poor score
Sloane was never going to maintain 120ish and his history shows that
I think 110-115 is his sweet spot which is still great, but he was always going to come down and anyone who paid over 600k paid overs, but we all do it from time to time
I never really considered him personally, but that was mostly due to his price either being too high, or his bye no good when price was decent. Have faith if you have him, but geez his team mates need to give him a hand because he clearly struggles with the attention
I'm more than happy to go up against Sloane this year. I think most bought him in at a high price and after he had big scores so on points and dollars they're far behind.
I'll back teams to continue to lock down on him as it clearly shows when he has a poor game, Adelaide tend to struggle.
Quote from: King_Robbo on June 10, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
I'm more than happy to go up against Sloane this year. I think most bought him in at a high price and after he had big scores so on points and dollars they're far behind.
I'll back teams to continue to lock down on him as it clearly shows when he has a poor game, Adelaide tend to struggle.
Did not struggle last night. So jury probably still out on that one,
Quote from: Ringo on June 10, 2017, 10:27:31 AM
Quote from: King_Robbo on June 10, 2017, 08:56:32 AM
I'm more than happy to go up against Sloane this year. I think most bought him in at a high price and after he had big scores so on points and dollars they're far behind.
I'll back teams to continue to lock down on him as it clearly shows when he has a poor game, Adelaide tend to struggle.
Did not struggle last night. So jury probably still out on that one,
No just needed, enough sample size. When he's been tagged out of a game they don't look the same team. Eg Melbourne, Geelong, North
St Kilda shut him out of the game but they just weren't good enough across the ground to take advantage.
The blueprint to beating the crows is set and I can't see why teams would stop tagging him
He's averaged 117.2 since being in my side, but it looks like he'll drop below the $591k I paid for him in Round 3. Hopefully the bye freshens him up and he comes up and smashes the next 3 against Hawthorn, Carlton and WB.
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I'm more than happy to go up against Sloane this year. I think most bought him in at a high price and after he had big scores so on points and dollars they're far behind.
I'll back teams to continue to lock down on him as it clearly shows when he has a poor game, Adelaide tend to struggle.
Did not struggle last night. So jury probably still out on that one,
No just needed, enough sample size. When he's been tagged out of a game they don't look the same team. Eg Melbourne, Geelong, North
St Kilda shut him out of the game but they just weren't good enough across the ground to take advantage.
The blueprint to beating the crows is set and I can't see why teams would stop tagging him
He struggled against the Giants in round one and I don't think that mattered too much tbh. Obviously shutting him out goes a long way to beating us but we are not a one man team, I thought that was pretty clear.
Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
Quote from: _wato on June 10, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
My prediction now looking very solid
Evidence slowly mounting against me...
But still gonna keep my neck out and get it here for the record - I'm still expecting Sloane to shred the rest of the year and believe still in 120+, including those two scores you mentioned. Use this against me later if it's wrong, haha ;D
Quote from: shaker on June 10, 2017, 03:57:10 PM
Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
Quote from: dylanclements on June 10, 2017, 04:02:40 PM
Quote from: _wato on June 10, 2017, 12:35:47 AM
My prediction now looking very solid
Evidence slowly mounting against me...
But still gonna keep my neck out and get it here for the record - I'm still expecting Sloane to shred the rest of the year and believe still in 120+, including those two scores you mentioned. Use this against me later if it's wrong, haha ;D
The problem you face, is that for every 66 he scores, you need him to smash out a 174 to keep a 120 average
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
I have him and love it when he punches out monster scores but honestly I think that is a fair description of someone who can't break a tag and only has an impact when left alone , like I said it is up to him because his team mates don't help him what would be your description of him or players like that ?
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
I have him and love it when he punches out monster scores but honestly I think that is a fair description of someone who can't break a tag and only has an impact when left alone , like I said it is up to him because his team mates don't help him what would be your description of him or players like that ?
I agree with the term but would qualify it with 'good'
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
I have him and love it when he punches out monster scores but honestly I think that is a fair description of someone who can't break a tag and only has an impact when left alone , like I said it is up to him because his team mates don't help him what would be your description of him or players like that ?
A downhill skier is someone who only plays well when the team is playing well.
The team played well on Friday, the team played well round one and both times Sloane didn't score well. The games against North Melbourne and Geelong were the two worse team performances this year, the whole team played like trash except maybe one or two players, not just Sloane. Even the great Patrick Dangerfield got shut out of the game by Bernie Vince a few years back, and the team played like shower against Melbourne as well.
The fact that he is struggling with the tag, doesn't make him a 'downhill skier', it just means he is struggling with a tag.
I hope you started him and didn't bring him when he was averaging 120 because he was never going to keep that up, if you did trade him in, that's your fault then.
Sloane is not a downhill skier, period
Yes he struggles with a tag, but that is nowhere near the definition of downhill skier
Mark LeCras is a downhill skier
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 11, 2017, 02:12:33 PM
Sloane is not a downhill skier, period
Yes he struggles with a tag, but that is nowhere near the definition of downhill skier
Mark LeCras is a downhill skier
Yeah, silly comment. Worked his backside off despite the attention. Might not be SC relevant under these circumstances but always puts in.
Expect Crows to start putting some attention into his taggers. Look what happened to Swans when they were accused of not protecting so maybe Crows will follow suit,
Quote from: TomK on June 11, 2017, 02:29:17 AM
Quote from: shaker on June 10, 2017, 03:57:10 PM
Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
I have him and love it when he punches out monster scores but honestly I think that is a fair description of someone who can't break a tag and only has an impact when left alone , like I said it is up to him because his team mates don't help him what would be your description of him or players like that ?
A downhill skier is someone who only plays well when the team is playing well.
The team played well on Friday, the team played well round one and both times Sloane didn't score well. The games against North Melbourne and Geelong were the two worse team performances this year, the whole team played like trash except maybe one or two players, not just Sloane. Even the great Patrick Dangerfield got shut out of the game by Bernie Vince a few years back, and the team played like shower against Melbourne as well.
The fact that he is struggling with the tag, doesn't make him a 'downhill skier', it just means he is struggling with a tag.
I hope you started him and didn't bring him when he was averaging 120 because he was never going to keep that up, if you did trade him in, that's your fault then.
Quote from: Bully on June 11, 2017, 02:18:30 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on June 11, 2017, 02:12:33 PM
Sloane is not a downhill skier, period
Yes he struggles with a tag, but that is nowhere near the definition of downhill skier
Mark LeCras is a downhill skier
Yeah, silly comment. Worked his backside off despite the attention. Might not be SC relevant under these circumstances but always puts in.
Agree with all of these. Was still busting his ass the other night, that smother he made late in the game was a perfect example.
No way is he a downhill skier but people (his owners mainly) are in denial if they think he will score 115-120 for the rest of the year. He folds under a heavy tag and as I've mentioned before, this is now the blueprint to beating the Crows. I can't see why teams wouldn't put heavy attention on Sloane for the rest of the year and hence, his SC scores will suffer. He could only go 100-105 from here
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Crows don't really try to help him out much it is up to him to sort it out otherwise he will get a reputation of being a downhill skier and I don't think he would like that
lol
Which bit do you find funny the fact his team mates don't help him out or that he is looking like being another Zaharakis ?
The downhill skier comment.
I have him and love it when he punches out monster scores but honestly I think that is a fair description of someone who can't break a tag and only has an impact when left alone , like I said it is up to him because his team mates don't help him what would be your description of him or players like that ?
A downhill skier is someone who only plays well when the team is playing well.
The team played well on Friday, the team played well round one and both times Sloane didn't score well. The games against North Melbourne and Geelong were the two worse team performances this year, the whole team played like trash except maybe one or two players, not just Sloane. Even the great Patrick Dangerfield got shut out of the game by Bernie Vince a few years back, and the team played like shower against Melbourne as well.
The fact that he is struggling with the tag, doesn't make him a 'downhill skier', it just means he is struggling with a tag.
I hope you started him and didn't bring him when he was averaging 120 because he was never going to keep that up, if you did trade him in, that's your fault then.
Fair enough but he needs to learn somehow to break a tag for his own career and I have had him since Gawn went down so I have enjoyed all his good scores bar one I think guess I'm just pissed a bit because I seem to get one player each year that this happens to ;)
89 + 66 + 80 = 235 / 3 78.3 avg since I began tracking his scores. Not one ton and well over 100 points below expectation.
Quote from: _wato on June 26, 2017, 09:25:52 PM
89 + 66 + 80 = 235 / 3 78.3 avg since I began tracking his scores. Not one ton and well over 100 points below expectation.
Looks to have a date with Curnow, Vince and Greenwood over the next 5 weeks so I think you definitely made the right call.
Quote from: Huttabito on June 26, 2017, 09:50:17 PM
Looks to have a date with Curnow, Vince and Greenwood over the next 5 weeks so I think you definitely made the right call.
Hence why I traded him out in RDT. Ended up grabbing Joel Selwood so F me I was better off holding Rory 'can't take a tag' Sloane.
Cut between wanting good SC scores and knowing that the Crows are a one man team.(Cue TomK)
Quote from: PowerBug on June 26, 2017, 10:43:23 PM
Cut between wanting good SC scores and knowing that the Crows are a one man team.(Cue TomK)
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/184/949/2a3.jpg)
So glad that I never brought Sloane in.
Like I've said before the guy just melts like butter when a half decent tagger is playing on him.
Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 02:01:06 AM
So glad that I never brought Sloane in.
Like I've said before the guy just melts like butter when a half decent tagger is playing on him.
Get Treloar instead?
The flowerer dropped $50k on the weekend and now has a BE of 173. With his upcoming line of taggers in coming weeks, is it silly to trade him out?
I'm thinking of grabbing Lloyd to finish my defence, and then can grab a Jelwood when he bottoms out in a few weeks to re-finish mids.
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Quote from: Judd Magic on June 27, 2017, 02:01:06 AM
So glad that I never brought Sloane in.
Like I've said before the guy just melts like butter when a half decent tagger is playing on him.
Get Treloar instead?
:o
Quote from: Blues Blues Blues on June 27, 2017, 06:29:39 AM
The flowerer dropped $50k on the weekend and now has a BE of 173. With his upcoming line of taggers in coming weeks, is it silly to trade him out?
I'm thinking of grabbing Lloyd to finish my defence, and then can grab a Jelwood when he bottoms out in a few weeks to re-finish mids.
I'd do that without hesitation.
Jelwood better option than Sloane for sure.
I'm temporarily floating Adams on my mid bench to get Roberton in this week for Scooter, I'm thinking if Cousins isn't named I might even bench Sloane and have Adams on field as a possible loophole option. Is that crazy? Also have Jelwood who might not play so they could both be on field anyway...
Need I go on?
I've nailed this call atm
Quote from: _wato on July 04, 2017, 09:31:33 PM
Need I go on?
I've nailed this call atm
I think even you gave him overs on your prediction haha. So glad I did that sucked in on this guy.
Will be a lock if Adelaide can pick up another star in their midfield next year. Would have to be someone that teams tag before him though
Sloanes always been a spud when a half decent tag has been applied to him.
Case closed! 8)
Well it's time for Rory to go I have stuck with him hoping he could learn to break a tag but it's not to be then KO'ed on top of it , the Crows are going fine there other mids are doing the job while teams single mindedly attack Sloane can't keep him he is hurting my team big time and goes on top of the never again list :'(
Greenwood to Sloane anyone?
Anyone got both Sloane and Rocky?
Rocky just as bad >:(
Quote from: Bully on July 16, 2017, 02:38:36 PM
Greenwood to Sloane anyone?
Not sure it's worth it, as crazy as that sounds
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
Anyone got both Sloane and Rocky?
Rocky just as bad >:(
Quote from: Bully on July 16, 2017, 02:38:36 PM
Greenwood to Sloane anyone?
Not sure it's worth it, as crazy as that sounds
I may even go Rocky to Beams this week. Can't see him picking up the pace, 0 tackles, looks to be coasting.
It's like Sloane just gives up when he's tagged. No hard running and no aggression to break the tag. Just decides to let the Crouch brothers and whoever else is rotating through the midfield do the heavy lifting while he and the tagger just jog around the ground. Really frustrating.
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
Anyone got both Sloane and Rocky?
i have Sloane, Pendles, Daulhaus, T Lynch
Oh and I forgot went Cripps - Zorko this week
Is that bad enough? >:(
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on July 16, 2017, 03:03:47 PM
Anyone got both Sloane and Rocky?
Rocky just as bad >:(
Yeah mate, same boat, throw in taking Gawn over Stef and they're easily my three worst calls this year. Lost a cash league game this week with only those 3 as PODs: Rocky, Sloane, and Gawn against Greenwood, Witherden (he had Adams in mids) and Kreuz... 130-something point loss. Never would have picked that at the start of the year...
4800+ people traded him in after last weeks score for a 36 , it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling after trading him out last week he just can't score when tagged and he is finished as a fantasy player for ever for me
Quote from: shaker on July 30, 2017, 09:04:51 PM
4800+ people traded him in after last weeks score for a 36 , it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling after trading him out last week he just can't score when tagged and he is finished as a fantasy player for ever for me
And our forum favourite formerly ranked 36th overall (As he likes to tell us) not just traded him in but made him captain!! ;D ;D
He's my M9, but it's the Showdown next week and we will just put Ebert H2H with Sloane so he'll score well next week and I'll field him ::)
Quote from: PowerBug on July 30, 2017, 09:06:35 PM
Quote from: shaker on July 30, 2017, 09:04:51 PM
4800+ people traded him in after last weeks score for a 36 , it gave me a warm fuzzy feeling after trading him out last week he just can't score when tagged and he is finished as a fantasy player for ever for me
And our forum favourite formerly ranked 36th overall (As he likes to tell us) not just traded him in but made him captain!! ;D ;D
He's my M9, but it's the Showdown next week and we will just put Ebert H2H with Sloane so he'll score well next week and I'll field him ::)
He should be handled with caution and only used as E loophole from now on :P
Had him as captain for a cool 36x2
Cost me my main league where i finished 9th in the end
Quote from: sammy123 on July 31, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
Had him as captain for a cool 36x2
Cost me my main league where i finished 9th in the end
Maaaaate. That sucks, but why on earth did you captain him???? :o
Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 31, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on July 31, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
Had him as captain for a cool 36x2
Cost me my main league where i finished 9th in the end
Maaaaate. That sucks, but why on earth did you captain him???? :o
^^^
Quote from: GCSkiwi on July 31, 2017, 09:37:48 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on July 31, 2017, 09:14:20 AM
Had him as captain for a cool 36x2
Cost me my main league where i finished 9th in the end
Maaaaate. That sucks, but why on earth did you captain him???? :o
Just thought he might score well but disnt tske into factor greenwood tag
He ended up averaging a very solid 116 for me post-bye (After 118 pre-bye, bought before Rd 3)! I say for me because I had his 50, 36 and today's 130 benched.
6th highest scoring mid for the year, 9th on average, 22 games. I'd have to say that's a very solid season for the Crow :)
Matt Crouch pipped him by 10 points overall though :P
Quote from: PowerBug on August 27, 2017, 11:45:25 PM
He ended up averaging a very solid 116 for me post-bye (After 118 pre-bye, bought before Rd 3)! I say for me because I had his 50, 36 and today's 130 benched.
6th highest scoring mid for the year, 9th on average, 22 games. I'd have to say that's a very solid season for the Crow :)
Matt Crouch pipped him by 10 points overall though :P
I got him in for the last few rounds for Selwood only because I couldn't afford anyone else and he has been awesome.
I know a lot of people have him on their never again list but if Adelaide can land a mid that teams tag before him (eg Gibbs) then he could have a monster year
Had him from when Gawn went down early and he was very good till the tags started then he help kill my team so dumped him then he scored well again because tagging tactics were highlighted and the umpires as usual over reacted and in the Sydney game and he got 8 frees and the opposition could not even fart in his direction without giving away a free , this will all be forgotten about next year so he will pump out some very good scores then he will be tagged and drop off , so will not be starting him but will be keeping an eye on when the umpires do there stuff then look at getting him .
Many stars in contract years have gone bananas recently.
I must admit I'm tempted. I think I'll wait and see if he's first tagged again though. Bit of a worry when as recently as grand final day he had a 19 year old put on him in the 2nd half and barely went near it. Hopefully Gibbs attracts the tag
Quote from: quinny88 on December 13, 2017, 08:19:53 PM
Bit of a worry when as recently as grand final day he had a 19 year old put on him in the 2nd half and barely went near it.
Just couldn't resist, could you? :P
I'd be shocked if teams didn't continue to tag Sloane though.
Quote from: TomK on December 13, 2017, 09:22:53 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on December 13, 2017, 08:19:53 PM
Bit of a worry when as recently as grand final day he had a 19 year old put on him in the 2nd half and barely went near it.
Just couldn't resist, could you? :P
I'd be shocked if teams didn't continue to tag Sloane though.
Haha sorry Tommy, I was just watching the replay for the 100th time and couldn't help but notice ;D
But yeah sadly I think you're right. He's still the most important player at Adelaide to try and shut down
You would think Adelaide would work on protecting him