I don't usually do these team threads (I'm not really sure why) but thought it might be good to have a few to follow in DT this season.
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Had Butler at F6 yesterday but decided that was too weak so downgraded Nank to Sandi to bring in Taranto. Hasn't turned out very well so far :-\
I also had SPS at M8 but was worried he wouldn't be the best scorer in DT, so traded him out for now. Can't decide whether I'm too weak through M8-M11 and whether I should downgrade Steele/Rough to bring in a Swallow type? Or maybe even Laird to Thurlow to generate cash but don't really want to do that.
Other decision I need to make is whether to take Simmo's 126 as VC by trading Preuss to Cameron? Would be reasonably confident that Danger or Fyfe or even Beams could match 126, but it is points in the bank?
It's always tough when you have a 126 there ready to go as a captain score. If it were a round 5 or 6 clash then I would 100% take it, but in round one I'd be tempted to risk it and try and go even bigger with someone like Danger.
I'd do the downgrade or shift Steele into the mdfield if that's also an option. I don't think Turner is going to play so you might be short on two spots looking at the team right now. It kidn of depends on which forward rookies you like but one solution to your problem might be this.
Preuss>Cameron for Simmo's VC score and small amount of cash.
Houston onto the field and Parfitt to F7 for Turner.
Then you might have to downgrade Roughy/Steele to Hoskin-Elliott to bring in Swallow or you could play Steele at M8 and see the best available forward you can bring in.
What are peoples thoughts on Horlin-Smith? Scored 98 from 57% game time in JLT 2 however Danger only had 42% game time. Then 76 from 63% game time in JLT 3. I saw a bit of JLT3 and seemed to be in at a lot of centre bounces. Should get opportunities this year, is an injury risk but then so is Swallow. For some reason I just don't have as good a feeling about Swallow as others do.
Currently deciding between Horlin-Smith + Roughead vs Swallow + Hoskin-Elliott?
Pass on Horlin-Smith. I don't think he is very good. He will probably get tagging duties with Guthrie and Scott Selwood out as well.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 24, 2017, 06:05:57 PM
Pass on Horlin-Smith. I don't think he is very good. He will probably get tagging duties with Guthrie and Scott Selwood out as well.
Yeah, you're probably right. Was clutching at straws a bit haha.
If you were to lock in one of Steele or Roughy which would you go? I'm contemplating Steele because it seems like Richardson loves him and St Kilda play a high possession game in the midfield. Steven and Armo were huge a couple years back.
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 24, 2017, 07:33:06 PM
If you were to lock in one of Steele or Roughy which would you go? I'm contemplating Steele because it seems like Richardson loves him and St Kilda play a high possession game in the midfield. Steven and Armo were huge a couple years back.
I'm going Steele. I've cooled off on Roughy in the AF/DT formats.
Quote from: Rusty00 on March 24, 2017, 07:46:09 PM
I'm going Steele. I've cooled off on Roughy in the AF/DT formats.
The more I think about Roughy the more I think he is on the decline. He just seemed the best available player in that price range.
Here's how my final team ended up:
Simpson, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Treloar, T Mitchell, Steven, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Horlin-Smith, (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Picket)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Greene, Dahlhaus, Steele, Roughead, Taranto, Bowes, (Houston, Eddy)
Can't say I'm totally happy how it ended up, but scored 2142 so not too bad. I actually ended up with Kade Stewart in my team :o and then didn't realise he wasn't selected for the Hawks. Lucky it was a rolling lockout or I may have hit "delete team". When Swallow was a late out I had to mess around with my team a bit (whilst getting on the beers) so ended up with Rough back in and also Horlin-Smith, neither of which I'm that happy with. Taranto and Bowes as well didn't look the best.
Will need to pick between Adams or Treloar for VC this week.
Scored 2077 in Rd.2 to have me ranked 1974. Not too bad, but not that good either :-\
Out of all 3 comps this is the one I feel I have the most things I want to fix, which I guess is not surprising seeing as though I wasn't super happy with how my team ended up.
Simpson, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Treloar, T Mitchell, Steven, Fyfe, Beams, O'Meara, Horlin-Smith, (Powell-Pepper, Barrett, Picket)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Greene, Dahlhaus, Steele, Roughead, Taranto, Bowes, (Houston, Eddy)
As I thought would happen, Rough isn't setting the world on fire but he'll have to stay for now. Barrett and Picket will be slow burners but seem to have decent JS so can stay as well. GHS, Taranto and Bowes you'd have to say were not good picks whilst I'm missing WHE and Butler.
Steven is the other one I'll need to deal with (as it seems a few of us on here need to). The obvious play seems to be Steven to Murphy and then GHS/Taranto/Bowes up to WHE. I'm worried I'm chasing points and wondering it would be better going Steven to another premo and GHS/Taranto/Bowes to Butler?
Murphy loves playing the Dons so I'd say he is a good pick for at least this week. Horlin-Smith is a super spud but GC are terrible and I can't see Bowes winning a heap of the footy.
Taranto looks like he is suited to SC but is worth holding at least this week. It gives you a second look at Hayward and then I would look at GHS out, Taranto to the mids and Hayward in.
It probably gives you enough cash in the bank to turn Roughy into a forward or mid premium the week after
Gee it's a good feeling when you're trades have a great result the following round :)
Went Steven > Murphy and GHS > WHE which helped me to a score of 2275 which moved me up to 877 overall.
Simpson, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Hampton, Otten, (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, O'Meara, Powell-Pepper, (Bowes, Barrett, Picket)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Greene, Dahlhaus, Steele, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliott, Taranto (Houston, Eddy)
Hibberd to Newman the obvious trade this week. Have to have a closer look whether I make another trade with Taranto and Bowes in the gun.
Looking good mate. I'd probably give Taranto and Bowes one more week to show something. Both had strong final quarters in their games this week which could mean a decent score is just around the corner to get their cash generation going.
There will also be quite a few bubble boys over the next couple of weeks whereas I can't think of anyone other than Hayward that would be worth bringing in this week?
Yeah apart from Newman the other bubble boys don't scream as must haves this week.
Swallow has me thinking though. To be honest I wasn't as positive about him pre-season as most as I just wasn't sure he could pump out much more than 80, but he has looked pretty good so far. It's probably the wrong move but it's tempting to bring him in for O'Meara for immediate cash and quicker cash generation, or Taranto or Bowes for a bump in points on field.
Congrats Rusty was one of my 3 losses for the week.
Hibberd to Newmann will be popular. (Already done that one)
Am also tempted to go O'Meara to Swallow but with him sitting out a fair portion of last quarter with tightness a little wary given his previous injuries.
Scored 2036 which was fairly solid seeing as I had no Rocky and Treloar as C. Small move up the rankings to 683.
Simpson, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Otten, Newman (Stewart, Hampton)
Danger, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Taranto, Powell-Pepper, (Barrett, Picket, Hibberd)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Greene, Dahlhaus, Steele, Roughead, Hoskin-Elliott, Houston (Bowes, Eddy)
Only made the one trade of O'Meara to Newman last week meaning I know have $300k+ in the kitty. Rough to a premo mid, meaning I can move Adams back to defence. Options are Rocky, Sloane and Z Merrett. Already have 3 Rd.13 bye players in the mids so Rocky seems the most logical choice even though I always feel it's risky bringing in a player after a massive score.
Stewart seems cooked from a cash generation point of view, so may trade him to Balic as well.
Scored 2285 which was around the mark and another gradual move up the rankings to 440.
Simpson, Adams, Laird, Marchbank, Otten, Newman (Stewart, Hampton)
Danger, Rockliff, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Powell-Pepper, (Barrett, Picket, Hibberd)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Greene, Dahlhaus, Steele, Hoskin-Elliott, Houston, Taranto (Bowes, Eddy)
Just made the one trade of Roughead to Rockliff last week (thought about Zorko as a POD but decided I needed Rocky). $3,600 in the bank, 26 trades remaining.
SPP and WHE look close to maxed out. If I bring in Fisher as my downgrade this week I can also get Buddy, who's actually scoring better in DT/AF than SC and has a few easier games coming up. Would leave me with bugger all money again though.
Other option would be to double downgrade (if Balic is named) to load up for next week, however I feel that would have me going backwards from a points point of view with more rookies on the field.
All this may have to change if Murphy doesn't come up though :-\
If you were to go the double downgrade this week, would that give you enough cash to bring in Zerrett next week instead? because then you would be choosing between (in an on-field sense) Buddy, Buddy or rookie, Zerrett over the next two weeks which could be pretty similar points wise.
Or would you still prefer to bring in a forward given you are trading WHE?
I'd do the upgrade and downgrade this week. I think next week is probably the one to do a double downgrade. I'm looking at doing something similar trading out SPP and WHE for Fisher and a keeper. I'm just short of Dusty so I'm looking at a forward premium as well.
Quote from: Adamant on April 26, 2017, 09:39:24 PM
because then you would be choosing between (in an on-field sense) Buddy, Buddy or rookie, Zerrett over the next two weeks which could be pretty similar points wise.
Or would you still prefer to bring in a forward given you are trading WHE?
Yeah it's a good point to consider and I probably have to accept that I can only bring in one premo over the next 2 weeks. I probably should focus on getting the best (Merrett) as opposed to "making do with Buddy" this week and not being able to do anything next week. I always find it hard to double downgrade though as the want is to increase on field points immediately ;)
If I go this way, I'll probably trade Taranto in lieu of SPP as I think the latter might go ok against the Lions with Boak out this week. If Balic doesn't get picked it might change things though :-\
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 26, 2017, 09:56:11 PM
I'd do the upgrade and downgrade this week. I think next week is probably the one to do a double downgrade. I'm looking at doing something similar trading out SPP and WHE for Fisher and a keeper. I'm just short of Dusty so I'm looking at a forward premium as well.
If I was going to go this way, I think I'm now leaning towards Taranto > Fisher and WHE > Yeo. Lets me keep SPP over Taranto for the field this week and Yeo doesn't have any more games at the MCG ;)
Screw the burn man Yeo. You could also grab a defensive premium or there is one I am looking at out of left field that seems to be winning a lot of the pill with a favorable bye as a midfield option.
Quote from: Mat0369 on April 26, 2017, 10:24:31 PM
Screw the burn man Yeo. You could also grab a defensive premium or there is one I am looking at out of left field that seems to be winning a lot of the pill with a favorable bye as a midfield option.
Not sure who you mean but if I use SPP > Fisher and WHE > ?? I only have $537,400 to spend :-\
Quote from: Rusty00 on April 26, 2017, 10:38:29 PM
Not sure who you mean but if I use SPP > Fisher and WHE > ?? I only have $537,400 to spend :-\
Well you can't afford my mid POD I'm looking at. You could do a DPP trade to move Adams into the midfield and grab Roberton.
Scored a solid 2209 for another good move up the rankings to 136.
Went WHE to Balic and SPP to Roberton. Although the guys traded out both scored well, happy with Roberton and at this stage Balic seems to have been the better pick over Fisher. Taranto and Bowes both put up decent scores last week just in time to keep some cash generation going which was good.
So Toby "anger management" Greene will be riding the pine with Brett "bench clogger" Eddy this week meaning I'll be fielding quite a few rookies in the forward line. Probably not too bad though this week given many will be dealing with Toby and/or Nank. At this stage thinking Marchbank to Parsons/Black and Houston to Macrae. Would give me the following team with $7,300 in the bank and 22 trades remaining.
Simpson, Laird, Roberton, Otten, Newman, Hampton (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Rockliff, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Beams, Adams, (Bowes, Barrett, Picket)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Steele, Taranto, Balic, Parsons (Greene, Eddy)
Adams at M8 for now so I can play Hampton in lieu of Bowes and gives me an emergency in the mids.
One thing to keep in mind is the available rookies over the next fortnight to push up the rankings. Macrae is a good get so I can't fault that. Unfortunately you probably can't hold Marchbank. I have a good feeling about the Carlton defenders after seeing how Tom Lonergan, Mackie, Taylor and Tuohy all scored while in the back half this past week vs the Pies.
I think Myers is in either this week or next so you could go early on him next week but it''s too risky with his injury history. If you're willing to go early on him or sit next week then make the trades.
Yeah, I think I'm happy to make the upgrade why I can and hold next week if I need to. Yeah Marchbank might score well this week (just like WHE and SPP last week) but the other defenders have lower BEs so he's first on the list at this stage.
Into the Top 100 with another solid score of 2162.
Last weeks trades were Beams > Macrae and Houston > Parsons.
Simpson, Laird, Roberton, Marchbank Otten, Hampton (Stewart, Newman)
Danger, Rockliff, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Adams, Barrett (Bowes, Pickett, Hibberd)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Dahlhaus, Macrae, Steele, Taranto, Balic, Parsons (Greene, Eddy)
Bench cloggers really starting to pile up now though as had no emergencies last week. Real problem is in the forward line though as I'm expecting Parsons to get dropped meaning I'll have 3 non-playing, forward only players. May have to bite the bullet and trade out Eddy this week. Do have some cash saved up but if I trade out Eddy I won't be able to afford a mid upgrade from Hampton. Might consider bringing in Nank this week as a Rd.12 forward.
I think everyone is in the same boat with bench clogging rookies. Byes are going to be a mess this year.
A lot in same boat and will depend on teams named as it may force our hands with trades to avoid donuts.
Poor round of 2095 this week drops me out of the Top 100 to 198 :(
Trades were Hampton > Yeo and Pickett > Myers (needed the second trade to afford Yeo). Looked pretty bad at half time of the Eagles game but Yeo turned it around. The other player I was deciding between was Tuohy so made the right choice.
Simpson, Laird, Roberton, Marchbank Otten, Newman (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Rockliff, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Adams, Myers (Barrett, Bowes, Balic)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Steele, Greene, Taranto (Parsons, Eddy)
Felt hard to trade Pickett for little cash gain but I needed to clear a bench clogger. Trouble with going early on Myers is downgrade options this week aren't flash. If Rocky is gone for a while I could get some cash from trading him down to a cheaper Premo but I think it's more likely he's going to miss 1-2 weeks. Ideally I'd upgrade Otten this week but not sure I'm going to be able to.
At least you got Yeo in. Not sure what the go is with Rocky. Your team is looking quite strong. Taranto is holding up ok. If you're looking alright in R11 you could look at guys like Zorko/Cripps etc as an option. Maybe even Oliver who is probably cheaper then all those guys.
Scored 2368 last week for a slight move up to 162nd in the rankings.
Just the one trade last week, Rocky to Merrett.
Simpson, Laird, Roberton, Marchbank Otten, Newman (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, Murphy, Adams, Myers (Barrett, Bowes, Balic)
Martin, Sandilands, (Cameron)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Steele, Greene, Taranto (Parsons, Eddy)
Initially was looking at Balic > Greenwood and Marchbank > Pittard this week but Sandi out changes things. First thoughts were to just bring in Ryder instead of Pittard but then I'd have to play Parsnip on the ground this week. After some thought I'm thinking of just going Sandi to Ryder (which I can just afford to do tonight as my first trade) even though it's a bit sideways with a view of bringing in Grundy after his bye. My second trade will probably still be Balic > Greenwood, subject to teams.
They seem like excellent trades and should maximise points. They reckon Sandi is out for one but we will see in the end. They could essentially rest him for a month with the bye coming up.
Wasn't following the scores too closely on the weekend and felt like I was going ok until I realised I ended up with 2070 which was pretty disappointing :( Back down to 191 in the rankings.
Sandi > Ryder and Balic > Greenwood last week. Ryder was disappointing, but scored the same as Nank and more than Pittard who was my original trade in so a bit meh all round.
Thinking of going Marchbank > Scooter, moving Adams back to defence, which would give me the below team.
Laird, Adams, Otten, Stewart, Hibberd, Newman (Simpson, Roberton)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Fyfe, SSelwood, Myers, Bowes (Murphy, Steele, Barrett)
Martin, Ryder, (Cameron)
Yeo, Greene, Taranto, Greenwood, Parsons, Eddy (Dahlhaus, Macrae)
Have a spot for Barrett on the mid bench so will keep him given his BE is down low again. Hopeful Bowes will come back which would give me 18 playing, if not he'll probably have to be traded. Eddy to Bolton may be another trade I make to give me an extra player this week.
Ainsworth could also be back in but a little expensive. Think his JS may be better than Bolton if Bowes still out.
Scooter probably a must at the price and his current scoring.
Update after the byes.
Rd.11: score 1,715 rank 202
Rd.12: score 1,847 rank 404
Rd.13: score 1,701 rank 257
11 Trades and $38k in the bank
Laird, Adams, Roberton, Simpson, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Hibberd)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Murphy, Rocky, SSelwood, Steele (Barrett, Bolton, Cousins)
Martin, Ryder, (Cameron)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Greene, Heeney, Greenwood, (Parsons, Eddy)
So Scooter and Steele are the issues. Assuming both are out this week, can go Steele to Lloyd and Scooter to TT Lynch, with a view to eventually move Lloyd back to defence and trade Newman to a mid.
Well teams have flowered us this week with Lynch and Scooter out :(
Laird, Adams, Roberton, Simpson, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Murphy, Rocky, SSelwood, Barrett (Hibberd, Bolton, Cousins)
Martin, Ryder, (Cameron)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Greene, Heeney, Greenwood (TT Lynch, Eddy)
Was planning to go Barrett to Lloyd but can't afford to do anything with Scooter then, except his brother who is in doubt anyway and has a massive BE.
Alternative is to trade Scooter to Lloyd and hold Barrett and hope he puts together a solid score for this week and to not lose too much money?
Otherwise have no idea what to do :-\
With Stewart for 4 weeks would consider Stewart to Witherden $200k cash gain. Should allow you to go Barrett to Lloyd or Selwood to any mid you like. Witherden has the DPP to switch as well.
Quote from: Ringo on June 29, 2017, 10:35:29 PM
With Stewart for 4 weeks would consider Stewart to Witherden $200k cash gain. Should allow you to go Barrett to Lloyd or Selwood to any mid you like. Witherden has the DPP to switch as well.
My problem is having to start one of Mitch Hibberd, Ryan, or Witherden (if I get him). I guess Barrett's score last week shows he's no certainty to score well anyway if I keep him this week.
Think I'm just going to have to suck it up and accept I'll have to start a low scoring player on the field this week.
Donut in the forwards killed me last week, dropped to 381 overall.
Laird, Adams, Roberton, Simpson, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Murphy, Rocky, SSelwood, Lloyd (Hibberd, Bolton, Cousins)
Martin, Ryder, (Cameron)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, Greene, Heeney, TT Lynch (Greenwood, Eddy)
8 trades left $52,000 in the bank.
Stewart to Witherden is the obvious choice this week for cash gain, but no real idea what else (if anything to do). Essentially my team is "complete" but there's some holes. Main problem is I have 7 defenders and Docherty is not one of them. I was planning to wait for Newman to crash and then upgrade him to a mid, but Newman keeps on keeping on. Forwards I'm happy with, Rucks are ok, given they're a bit of a crapshoot this year. The main issues are those final 2-3 spots in my mids at the moment.
Maybe I just make the one downgrade and hold for now to see what happens.
Stewart to Witherden and hold. Could look at upgrading Scooter if you have enough to get a prem mid. His B/e is a little high
Agree to hold - wait and see injury curse and then use trades in finals. My team 183rd, but not as good as yours and less trades in hand
Quote from: Peter on July 10, 2017, 01:07:03 PM
Agree to hold - wait and see injury curse and then use trades in finals. My team 183rd, but not as good as yours and less trades in hand
Cheers mate. Unfortunately with 4 forwards out last week I had to use both my trades to avoid donuts and couldn't even get Witherden :(
Scored 2320 despite Hibberd's 9 subbing for Scooter, which in a way I was happy with but another way was annoying as it could've/would've been the big score I needed to really push up the rankings.
Laird, Adams, Roberton, Simpson, Hibberd, Newman (Stewart, Ryan)
Danger, Merrett, Treloar, T Mitchell, Murphy, Rocky, SSelwood, Lloyd (Hibberd, Bolton, Cousins)
Martin, Ryder, (Darcy)
Yeo, Dahlhaus, Macrae, B Hill, Heeney, TT Lynch (Greenwood, Cameron)
Newman may have finally hit the wall with a couple of average scores and could trade him to Jelwood and make $70k +. Never been a massive fan of Jelwood in DT as he's more of a SC player, but this trade is a no-brainer right?
Would give me 5 trades and almost $150,000 in the bank to upgrade Scooter or Rocky down the track.